Those are a few of the first CRPGs (yeah, some people might say that SS2 is more of an FPS game, but whatever; I think it's RPG enough to qualify as an RPG) I sought out and played during my effort to check out the popular western RPGs. You should do the same, as they're actually that good.

Speaking of SS2, I haven't played Bioshock yet, but then I don't own a current gen console. I could get it on PC, but I wouldn't want to pay 50 bucks for it.

They're not SRPGs. They just have a few SRPG-style battles during the course of their stories. Otherwise the Suikoden games are mostly traditional JRPGs in terms of their gameplay (random battles, turn-based combat between your party and the enemy, etc), save for the character recruitment and castle building aspects.

There are actually quite a few series I haven't played. I guess I feel pretty ashamed that since I'm a big rpg gamer I've never played one game from the Suikoden and Star Ocean franchises.

I tend to be very picky about the games I play even a lot of the popular series that have existed within the last ten years I haven't played either. These are just some of the many series I haven't played yet.

- Jak & Daxter
- Ratchet & Clank
- Halo
- Unreal Tournament
- Lego Series
- Grand Theft Auto
- Gran Turismo
- Guitar Hero

+ countless others

It's not because they're bad games. I know all these games are good in their own right. I just have no desire to play them. I just hate the fact that some of my friends give me grief because I haven't played certain games, which is kind of ironic because I don't give them any grief if they haven't played any games I'm particularly fond of.

I have yet to play a few games. Key of them all is FFVIII and I have yet to even get past the first disc on FFVII. Many of the earlier FF games nor any of the Fallout or System shock games.