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Paco Mar 5, 2006 11:37 PM

Academy Awards
 
So the awards were mostly a disappointment just like they are every year.

I know this will yield little discussion but what did you guys think of the winner and/or loser outcomes?

http://oscar.com/oscarnight/winners/index.html

Kaiten Mar 5, 2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Encephalon
So the awards were mostly a disappointment just like they are every year.

I know this will yield little discussion but what did you guys think of the winner and/or loser outcomes?

http://oscar.com/oscarnight/winners/index.html

I was suprised Brokeback Mountain didn't win. Entertainment weekly got that really wrong.

wishfire Mar 5, 2006 11:39 PM

I got about halfway through it before I had to change the channel out of boredom, but I do agree with Memoirs of a Geisha won what it did. I can't really form too many opinions on this considering that I haven't seen over half of those movies.

Kaiten Mar 5, 2006 11:41 PM

I only watched the end because I was bored. It's funny how I reacted when I found out Crash won the best picture (the best way to put into words "...What!?!?!?").

Helloween Mar 5, 2006 11:43 PM

I guess i should start paying more attention, cause i didn't even know Crash was nominated.

This year was one of those years that the Academy was really split. All the films deserving of the awards, got at least one.

The only thing i was remotly disappointed about was Batman Begins losing Cinematography. It's to be expected, i didn't think it would get the award, but i think it was deserving of that award. The acting might not have been all there, and the writing was weak at times, but the environment that movie set up was strong.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Mar 5, 2006 11:43 PM

I don't know what you're talking about.

A movie named "Crash" took top honors.

Obviously the Academy finally got their act together. This is a panel who knows. You don't even need to watch the film to see that it's awesome.

Also, George Clooney huzzah!

SemperFidelis Mar 5, 2006 11:44 PM

I was glad that King Kong won a few. The host told some good jokes lol.

Dee Mar 5, 2006 11:44 PM

I was shocked to find that Brokeback Mountain didn't win. It had all the hype and all. I also caught the end. Oscars and such never really appealed to me as something to watch in its entirety.

Kaiten Mar 5, 2006 11:44 PM

What I heard that surprised me is that the best picture nominees' box office gross put together is less than $200 million, or less than most blockbusters make during the summer.

Paco Mar 5, 2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
I only watched the end because I was bored. It's funny how I reacted when I found out Crash won the best picture (the best way to put into words "...What!?!?!?").

I think I was more in shock over the fact that Crash won more so than I was disappointed that Brokeback Mountain lost. I really think that of all the nominees that one definitely deserved its award because it was the fucking underdog.

ava lilly Mar 5, 2006 11:45 PM

my only real gripe of the moment is the Best Original Song winner. it wasn't a bad song, but I'm sorry, It's Hard Out Here For a Pimp just wasn't academy material in my opinion. I had much higher hopes for the song written for Crash. also, I still think they should have nominated atleast one of the original songs written for The Chronicles of Narnia.

I haven't seen most of the movies that were nominated, so aside from the music I can't really give an informed opinion on anything else. ;_;

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Mar 5, 2006 11:47 PM

I thought most of the picks were well chosen. I'm glad Crash won Best Picture. I'm glad Seymour-Hoffman won Best Actor. The only one I was dissapointed about was March of the Penguins winning Best Documentary. I thought Enron was a much better film. March of the Penguins was horribly overhyped, athough it was still pretty good.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Mar 5, 2006 11:50 PM

I am glad Brokeback Mountain lost. The hype was ridiculous and we certainly don't need the floodgates opened for an entire wave of gay cowboy movies.

Also, Brokeback Mountain failed because although it was an artistic film about gay cowboys, they did not eat any pudding.

The pudding is crucial. No pudding, no Oscar.

Paco Mar 5, 2006 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ava lilly
I had much higher hopes for the song written for Crash.

SERIOUSLY! I mean... "It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp" was a pretty good song and it did a good job in relating context to the movie. But come on... Three-Six Mafia winning an Oscar is a sign of the motherfucking apocalypse.

I mean... COME ON!!!! IT'S THESE GUYS!!!
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Originally Posted by Capo
I thought Enron was a much better film. March of the Penguins was horribly overhyped, athough it was still pretty good.

That was the moment I knew that I was going to be disappointed for pretty much the rest of the night... ENRON: The Smartest Guys In The Room losing to waddling flightless bird footage... :(

Cyrus XIII Mar 5, 2006 11:55 PM

Anyone else who thinks that favoring Wallace & Grommit over a Burton or Ghibli movie is kinda odd?

Edit: Yeah, that documentary choice was weird too. Penguins are cute and cuddly and all but the Enron scandal had some political relevance. Well, maybe that was just it, Michael Moore's acceptance speech comes to mind.

Paco Mar 5, 2006 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
Anyone else who thinks that favoring Wallace & Grommit over a Burton or Ghibli movie is kinda odd?

Not really. Wallace and Grommit was such a fucking great movie that I was almost waiting for it to lose...

But Howl's Moving Castle...

Like I said... It was mostly a night of disappointments

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
Well, maybe that was just it, Michael Moore's acceptance speech comes to mind.

I guarantee you that the Academy shifted the way of the birds because of this little number a couple of years ago.

Ayre Mar 6, 2006 12:00 AM

I really only watched for Jon Stewart, as were most Daily Show fans anxious to see how he'd perform under the spotlight. He seemed a bit anxious at the start, but I really thought he started to settle in as the show went on. Great job by him, and I LOVED the zinger he made at Russell Crowe. Jamie Foxx's reaction was hilarious.

36 Mafia winning Best Original Song should probably win most awkwardly accepted award for this years Oscars. Stop thanking Jesus, already. I thought I was watching a rerun of the Grammys. Still, I liked their song better than the other two, so I can't say it didn't deserve the award. (Who is Dolly Parton trying to injure with those gozongas? ;.;)

Wojo Mar 6, 2006 12:01 AM

I am also very glad that Crash won the Best Motion Picture oscar. Out of all the films nominated I defenitly found it the most entertaining. I am also glad that Hoffman got the best actor. Playing Truman Capote seemed like such a hard thing to do when I watched Capote. Holding that voice for such a long time man that must be difficult.

History of Violence should have been nomiated for more categories though that kind of sucks.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Mar 6, 2006 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
Anyone else who thinks that favoring Wallace & Grommit over a Burton or Ghibli movie is kinda odd?

Anyone think that maybe "Wallace & Gromit" was a well-written, funny story with excellent production values?

Sheesh, maybe we're getting a little tired of the "gothy" theme that Burton stamps on everything, you know? Maybe "Wallace & Gromit" was a refreshing change of pace for an animated movie and was favored for that reason.

kat Mar 6, 2006 12:29 AM

Brokeback was set up for an embarassing shut out. But I'm so glad Ang Lee won for Best Director, most deserving guy ever.

I totally forgot about the Oscars. I was too busy being sick and sleeping

Fire On Ice Mar 6, 2006 12:50 AM

I don't think I could make a call between Wallace and Gromit and Howl's Moving Castle. I loved them both but they were both really good for different reasons. I thought that Corpse Bride was, although interesting concept-wise, not as good as I expected .

I'm so glad that Memoirs of a Geisha won for best costume design. I understand that no matter what era/style you're working with it takes the same ammount of work but if something like Pride and Prejudice had won over Memoirs...well I'm just glad they didn't. The costume work in Memoirs was outstanding and I'm glad they won what they did.

Arkhangelsk Mar 6, 2006 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by kat
I totally forgot about the Oscars. I was too busy being sick and sleeping

Wow...that was so me. I didn't even think about it until my roommate was channel surfing a bit earlier tonight. I had wanted to watch, if only for Jon Stewart, but oh well. Sick+5 tests next week+sleep=forget Oscars.

I hadn't seen most of the movies up for awards anyways.

Lukage Mar 6, 2006 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire on Ice
I don't think I could make a call between Wallace and Gromit and Howl's Moving Castle. I loved them both but they were both really good for different reasons. I thought that Corpse Bride was, although interesting concept-wise, not as good as I expected.

Yeah I was rootin' for Miyazaki. :(

el jacko Mar 6, 2006 01:23 AM

It was alright until it ended with Crash winning crazy amounts of awards and Good Night and Good Luck leaving with nothing.

Biggest travesty of the night.

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also: best animated film was one of the best decisions of the night. best documentary was one of the worst.

Perception Mar 6, 2006 01:56 AM

Crash. Best picture? =\

Actually, the Best Picture nominees this year were mediocre. Crash was cool, but I don't talk about it to others, and I don't recall anything extraordinary. Just a random movie to me.

SpaceOddity Mar 6, 2006 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayre
I really only watched for Jon Stewart, as were most Daily Show fans anxious to see how he'd perform under the spotlight. He seemed a bit anxious at the start, but I really thought he started to settle in as the show went on. Great job by him, and I LOVED the zinger he made at Russell Crowe. Jamie Foxx's reaction was hilarious.

Jon was the major reason I was watching as well (along with John Williams). I'm a huge TDS fan, and I thought Jon did just fine. However, I felt so bad when the camera panned to the audience and pretty much everyone was stone-faced. Are these people unable to laugh at themselves? Based on their cold reception, you'd think everyone in Hollywood has a stick up their diamond-encrusted ass. Perhaps they figured Jon would play it safe and use "their" kind of humor.

(On a side note, I did love seeing Steve Carell and hearing Stephen Colbert. Steve looked like a drag queen. LOL).

L-Sama_no_Miko Mar 6, 2006 08:21 AM

I'm probably going to say that I'm glad Wallace and Gromit one the best animation- I was totally rooting for it the whole way. I love Ghibli and I love Burton... but after having to do a claymation short as a final project in school once, I give those people /so much respect/ because that is the most incredibly tedious thing you can imagine. It totally pwns other forms of animation, I believe.

Corpse Bride was awesome, too for its stop animation... but they appeared to have a lot of shortcuts (ingenious shortcuts, but shortcuts nonetheless) to get the fluid animation they did. Aardman Animations totally deserved every bit of that award, in my opinion.

Musharraf Mar 6, 2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
I was suprised Brokeback Mountain didn't win. Entertainment weekly got that really wrong.

I wasn't. With a conservative jury like that, you can't really expect a movie like Brokeback Mountain to win more than three awards.

And when it comes to George Clooney winning an award, then I really don't know what's going on, anyway.

Monkey King Mar 6, 2006 10:26 AM

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Posted by Crash Landon
Also, Brokeback Mountain failed because although it was an artistic film about gay cowboys, they did not eat any pudding.
I was wondering if anyone was going to say anything about that.

But can you really take any of these awards seriously? They gave an Oscar to "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp". An Oscar. To that. I regarded the Academy Awards as a sham anyway, but that just sealed the deal. I mean, what the fuck?

Niekon Mar 6, 2006 10:54 AM

a few surprises for us... and then some awards that weren't so much the surprise.
Best Lead Actress... no surprise. Would have loved to have seen Felicity Huffman get it though.
Best Lead Actor... no surprise. If he lost that I would have like for David Strathairn to have won.
Best Motion Picture... surprised. With all the talk and nominations and other awards... it was "the movie". I would have taken anything else to win so I could stop hearing about Brokeback...

*crap* work summons... I have more thoughts on the awards though...

AslansMyHomeBoy Mar 6, 2006 11:07 AM

I'll be honest, I only really watched it for Jon Stewart and uh. jake gyllenhaal (he's just too cute). And, you know, even despite that, I still held higher expectations for the award givings. I. Ugh. Still not really over "It's hard out here for a pimp". I remember when they won, I was talking to one of my friends who also was watching it, an I think we both had a cardiac arrest for a moment. It was just. I. Hm. Bad.. song... Oscar... I think I'll stay in denial as a means to keep my brain from popping like a pimple. I was also really, really surprised about Crash winning best motion picture. To be honest, before last night, I had never even heard of Crash. And everyone was just predicting BBM to win, even I was. But at least ang lee won best director.

Nausicaa21 Mar 6, 2006 12:12 PM

hmm, I was REALLY disappointed in a lot of the choices. Brokeback mountain did NOT deserve to win over John Williams in the category for best score. It was really cool getting to see Ichzak play the medly though.

Also, i loved Wallice and Gromit, but Miyazaki is SO much better and I think he should have walked away with best animated picture.

But I have to agree, "It's hard out here for a pimp" even being nominated for best song is almost offensive. That is not the type of material that should be in the Oscars.

Put Balls Mar 6, 2006 03:23 PM

I'm very pleased with the results this year. I had seen most of the nominated movies beforehand, so I kind of knew who was going to win what.

Here's how it goes. There was a huge load of quality movies this time, and when they all got nominated, this kinda thing happens. Out of sheer propability, almost every one of those movies won something, except for A History of Violence and Good Night, and Good Luck. Someone has to lose by a hair when the competition's this tough.

Best film score (for Brokeback Mountain) and best animated feature film were disastrous. Brokeback Mountain, while being an excellent movie, had annoying music with overly repeated themes. The Wallace & Gromit full-length movie doesn't even hold a candle towards the mediocre Corpse Bride, even less towards the magnificent Howl's Moving Castle.

A year of consent, love for intellectual movies that have something to say. Is this the seventies. :( And a strong expressing of opinions: Unarguably the best foreign language film, a Palestinian movie called Paradise Now didn't win. Think about that.

makura Mar 6, 2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nausicaa21
Also, i loved Wallice and Gromit, but Miyazaki is SO much better and I think he should have walked away with best animated picture.

But I have to agree, "It's hard out here for a pimp" even being nominated for best song is almost offensive. That is not the type of material that should be in the Oscars.

I'm a big fan of Miyazaki and love a lot of his films, but Howl's Moving Castle really sucked ass. I couldn't bear myself to finish the movie, the story didn't make sense. Both W&G and Howl are amazingly animated through their mediums, but the story in Howl's Moving Castle was really painful to follow.

and best song.. I agree with that. Don't those white people know? They're just gonna encourage them.. :cow:

el jacko Mar 6, 2006 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Musharraf
And when it comes to George Clooney winning an award, then I really don't know what's going on, anyway.

When George Clooney is making a movie like "Good Night and Good Luck" then him winning an award makes a lot more sense (except when the film doesn't win any wtf).

Mucknuggle Mar 6, 2006 05:26 PM

I didn't watch the awards, as usual. I heard that Crash won Best Picture. Yay. It was a good film. Also, I agree with whoever wrote about biopics being in their own category - the Oscars would be better if the bio pics were kept separate from the fictional dramas.

Night Phoenix Mar 6, 2006 06:29 PM

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That is not the type of material that should be in the Oscars.
Why not? Because it's hip-hop?

Freelance Mar 6, 2006 10:03 PM

The Oscars suck every year, but this year is different. I'm happy that W&G won for best animated movie. I believe this movie is underrated, and it's the best animated movie I've seen in many sad long years : /

Let's hope Aardman Animations continue this trend. They look like the next Pixar right now.

Zephos Mar 6, 2006 11:12 PM

I won't even go into the travesty that was a 15-minute guitar riff winning instead of a masterfully done, complex orchestral score (Geisha). I knew it would happen - I never watch the awards anymore - but it's still a joke.

Spike Mar 7, 2006 03:37 AM

I had it on in the background, but did someone mess up and reveal the winner too early?

Paco Mar 7, 2006 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Night Phoenix
Why not? Because it's hip-hop?

No. Because it's the Three Six Mafia.

Peter Mar 7, 2006 11:52 AM

I'm glad Crash won, the hype surrounding Brokeback Mountain was way too big (it's just a love story that has been told before people, it's not that special because two guys are getting it on). Ang Lee did deserve his oscar though.

I was shocked that they give best documentary to a movie about pinguins of all things. Enron should have won. And Reese Witherspoon for best actress? Please, she's one of the most annoying people in Hollywood. I'm also disapponted in the best foreign film, since the best one (l'Enfant) wasn't even nominated. I was hoping for Paradise Now

Helloween Mar 7, 2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Enkidu
And Reese Witherspoon for best actress? Please, she's one of the most annoying people in Hollywood.

Doesn't mean she can't act a good movie.

Minion Mar 7, 2006 01:41 PM

Is it just me, or did everyone at the Oscars have a stick up their ass? I thought Jon Stewart was pretty damn funny. Of course Ben Stiller gets more laughs dancing around the stage like an imbecile. God I hate hollywood.

orion_mk3 Mar 7, 2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephos
I won't even go into the travesty that was a 15-minute guitar riff winning instead of a masterfully done, complex orchestral score (Geisha). I knew it would happen - I never watch the awards anymore - but it's still a joke.

Register your disappointment here: http://gamingforce.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1081

I couldn't agree more. Santaolalla is the luckiest man in Hollywood, and he now has more Oscars than Bernard Hermann, Alex North, Ennio Morricone, and Danny Elfman combined. He's also now tied with Goldsmith, Bernstein, and Delerue.

Travesty, I say!

Musharraf Mar 7, 2006 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Enkidu
I'm glad Crash won, the hype surrounding Brokeback Mountain was way too big (it's just a love story that has been told before people, it's not that special because two guys are getting it on). Ang Lee did deserve his oscar though.

Yeah, I think they didn't exactly know whom to give "Best Director" and "Best Movie", so they gave on to BBM and one to Crash; both to BBM would have caused a riot.

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
He's also now tied with Goldsmith, Bernstein, and Delerue.

Bernstein only won ONE oscar? I have to check on that ô_o

orion_mk3 Mar 7, 2006 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Musharraf
Bernstein only won ONE oscar? I have to check on that ô_o

Yup, only one. He was nominated a lot more than that, of course. And the one win he did have was for almost an insult--"Thoroughly Modern Millie," a movie based on a preexisting musical:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0062362/fullcredits
That's like Danny Elfman winning an Oscar for "Best Score" for the 10 mins of music he wrote for Chicago.

Gr|M Mar 7, 2006 05:16 PM

I enjoyed it over all and was also glad brokeback didn't win. Besides all the hype for the movie. It wasn't an incredible film you have to look past the "gay relationship portrayel that hasn't been done before" idea and determine if it is an incredible and profound enough movie to win the best picture of the year. That's my take on it. I also was amused/angered how on two occasions people who won an award with someone else were cut off from making their speech after the first person talked. They just turned the mic off and cued the music. I felt bad for them and the second time it happened you could see actors all in the front section pointing and angry that that happened. Poor people.

Zephos Mar 7, 2006 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
Yup, only one. He was nominated a lot more than that, of course. And the one win he did have was for almost an insult--"Thoroughly Modern Millie," a movie based on a preexisting musical:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0062362/fullcredits
That's like Danny Elfman winning an Oscar for "Best Score" for the 10 mins of music he wrote for Chicago.

Or like John Williams winning his first Academy Award for his adapted score of Fiddler on the Roof? ;)

Acro-nym Mar 7, 2006 06:01 PM

All I've got to say on the matter is that I was quite glad to see Wallace & Gromit win the animated feature award. It's just so funny and family-friendly.

orion_mk3 Mar 7, 2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zephos
Or like John Williams winning his first Academy Award for his adapted score of Fiddler on the Roof? ;)

Very much so. He should give that back, and steal the one Vangelis got in 1982 to take its place :)

Dopefish Mar 7, 2006 06:08 PM

Anyone else wondering if Three Six Mafia employed their Oscars for less savory purposes than just a paperweight? Gotta figure they got "tore up" in the last few days and had some ladies along and, let's face it...Oscar is slightly phallic.

Paco Mar 8, 2006 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dopefish
Gotta figure they got "tore up" in the last few days and had some ladies along and, let's face it...Oscar is slightly phallic.

On second though... I change my mind. This was the best award given out all night.

Shampoo Suicide Mar 8, 2006 01:39 PM

Crash was a bloated piece of shit. All the other nominations were better films. Bah.

Middle America is happy though: "At least the faggot movie didn't win."

majario Mar 8, 2006 05:50 PM

I was surprised when I saw It's Hard Out Here For A Pimp win Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures (Original Song). I thought it was great to see Three 6 Mafia take that home. The sound of jaws dropping for miles and miles is wonderful.

Nausicaa21 Mar 10, 2006 06:25 PM

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I'm a big fan of Miyazaki and love a lot of his films, but Howl's Moving Castle really sucked ass. I couldn't bear myself to finish the movie, the story didn't make sense. Both W&G and Howl are amazingly animated through their mediums, but the story in Howl's Moving Castle was really painful to follow.
YOu know, I wasn't all that impressed with the movie either. However, I still think it was a lot better than Wallice and Gromit, though I haven't seen Corpse Bride yet.


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