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Nintendonomicon Jul 26, 2006 12:28 AM

The DaWii Code
 
So, it seems Nintendo could have, or could have not, encrypted the Wii release date in his latest press release, which reads as follows.

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The fourth quarter of 2006 will herald a new era for Nintendo with the launch of its remarkable new Wii home video game system. But that's not what this news item is about! How could that be, you ask? Perhaps the secret to the launch information for Wii is somehow encoded in the text of this news item. You might want to pore over it for a few hours before staying up all night to debate phraseology and comma placement with your friends online. Or maybe it's all just a scam to get you to read the other games we have launching this fall. One of the two.

As the weather cools down, the Nintendo portable game offerings heat up. FINAL FANTASY V ADVANCE makes its way to Game Boy Advance SP on Nov. 6. As series go, FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies. FINAL FANTASY loyalists will enjoy an opportunity to debate which installment was best.

Nintendo DS owners are the big winners. Every week or so, another huge DS title hits, from the Touch Generations title Clubhouse Games to fan favorites like Elite Beat Agents and Yoshi's Island 2. Clearly a gamer's idea of paradise, here is Nintendo's upcoming DS lineup:

Oct. 9: Clubhouse Games
Oct. 16: Nintendogs (Dalmatian)
Oct. 23: Magical Starsign
Oct. 30: Pokémon Ranger
Oct. 30: Children of Mana
Nov. 6: Elite Beat Agents
Nov. 13: Yoshi's Island 2
Dec. 4: Custom Robo Arena
Dec. 4: Kirby Squeak Squad

And, for Nintendo GameCube owners, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess will be available for you this fall. An enhanced version also will be a launch title for Wii. That will all happen on... Oh look, we're out of space.

For more information about all of Nintendo's upcoming titles, please visit www.nintendo.com.
Since the Final Fantasy - James Bond analogy feels kinda weird for me, my bet is that, if there is indeed a clue in the text, the Wii will be released November 17 (it's a friday), which is the release date for Casino Royale in the US.

Thoughts?

kuttlas Jul 26, 2006 01:06 AM

Whoever wrote the press release is a smartass, and you fell for it.
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As series go, FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies.
I agree: There's too damn many of them and they're all the same.

WraithTwo Jul 26, 2006 02:14 AM

Basically, the couple of theories I've seen have pointed to October 2. The first notes that Wii probably won't come out on any of the days listed, and that the only shipping dates not listed are for October 2, November 20 and November 27. November 27th isn't possible because its after Black Friday, and the 20th is after the PS3 launch, disqualifying it. That leaves the second of October.

The more interesting is the second, saying that since we found out the name, we've had the release date. The "W" in Wii in roman numerals being 10, and the two "i"s meaning 2.

- WraithTwo -

EDIT - Another 10/2 theory has popped up, this concerning the mentioning of James Bond in the press release. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet and B is the 2nd. Kinda far fetched, but makes you think.

Grubdog Jul 26, 2006 04:26 AM

Who even cares, isn't 4th quarter enough? By the time it's going to be released, we'll know. Not like anything between October and December will be surprising anyway. If this wasn't so boring as the release date i'd probably spend a couple hours on it. Perhaps it has something to do with the games they left out of the list, like Hotel Dusk.
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Another 10/2 theory has popped up, this concerning the mentioning of James Bond in the press release. J is the 10th letter of the alphabet and B is the 2nd. Kinda far fetched, but makes you think.
Not to mention the fact that James Bond has 9 letters (there are also 9 games listed for anyone currently assessing a theory involving 9), and two are in capitals. 9 + 2. 11. Now the fact that there are two words in James Bond you add another 2 to get lucky 13. Take the first letter from 13 and it's a 1 so basically you minus 1 and it's 12. Where did that 1 go and why? It became a 0 when minus'd by the fact there is 1 James Bond per movie, this zero goes between the 1 and 2 to make 10 2. 10 / 2 CONFIRMED!

Actually, i've come across another possible release date.

9 / 3 (September 3)

Simply because there are 3 things referencing the number 9.

1) The number of letters in James Bond.
2) The number of letters in Hotel Dusk, which is mysteriously absent from the list.
3) The number of games on the list.

September 3 launch date is now fact. Don't Nintendo systems launch over there on a Sunday as well?

This would mean Nintendo lied about the Q4 date to try and trick us. Something could be extracted out of that too. The fact it's not Q4 means the release date could be pushed even further up, this opens new possibilities. It could be August. Which is next week. In 9 days perhaps!

9 days from when that press release was issued is August 4. The fact that this is the 4th speculated release date in this very post confirms this.

In conclusion Wii will be launched August 4, in just over a week.

WraithTwo Jul 26, 2006 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Grubdog
Who even cares, isn't 4th quarter enough? By the time it's going to be released, we'll know. Not like anything between October and December will be surprising anyway. If this wasn't so boring as the release date i'd probably spend a couple hours on it. Perhaps it has something to do with the games they left out of the list, like Hotel Dusk.

Not to mention the fact that James Bond has 9 letters (there are also 9 games listed for anyone currently assessing a theory involving 9), and two are in capitals. 9 + 2. 11. Now the fact that there are two words in James Bond you add another 2 to get lucky 13. Take the first letter from 13 and it's a 1 so basically you minus 1 and it's 12. Where did that 1 go and why? It became a 0 when minus'd by the fact there is 1 James Bond per movie, this zero goes between the 1 and 2 to make 10 2. 10 / 2 CONFIRMED!

Wow Grub, I really thing you're on to something!

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Deguello Jul 26, 2006 06:28 AM

I would wager October 9th. If you count exactly how many release dates are in the press release, and how many are listed bullet-style, you come to 10 release dates and 9 DS games, which are listed bullet style.

10, 9. October 9th. Just happens to be a Monday.

Gechmir Jul 26, 2006 06:58 AM

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FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies.
They were once good but have been horrid upsets in recent years :(

Kilroy Jul 26, 2006 07:11 AM

I seem to remember such a code breaking thing. It was also some Nintendo thing... What was it? Can't remember, but yet again it was something like "OMG, we get randomproduct. Just see here! Kick Ass And Take Names. 19 letters, rite? It could be that the game comes 1/9!"
Sure, they might do such a thing, and yet again, they might not. How will we know?

Elixir Jul 26, 2006 07:46 AM

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FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies.
They're both repetitive and predictable?

chaofan Jul 26, 2006 10:24 AM

Just to add in my two cents worth, note that Final Fantasy is the only title to be capslocked: November 7th?

Also, note that 10/2 = 5. Final Fantasy V (5). October 2nd?

Not taking the press release seriously, but hey, news drought, so let's have a bit of fun.

randomwab Jul 26, 2006 11:09 AM

I would love it to be released Augest 4th like Grubdog said, to walk into a store and see a Wii sitting there would be the strangest and greatest feeling ever.

Then again, I wouldn't have the cash to get one...bleh.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jul 26, 2006 11:14 AM

I highly doubt Nintendo would wait to give an official release date until that soon before their console drops. A "SURPRISE HEY IT'S OUT" seems completely ridiculous.

I still expect it to be in or around November. I just hope they drop the bullshit and tell us already.

Wall Feces Jul 26, 2006 11:34 AM

Rumors I've heard point to it coming out pretty much right after TGS, which would back up the October 2nd theory. I've always wondered why companies don't release systems right after trade shows, when all the hype is in full-gear.

Grubdog Jul 26, 2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by randomwab
I would love it to be released Augest 4th like Grubdog said, to walk into a store and see a Wii sitting there would be the strangest and greatest feeling ever.

Then again, I wouldn't have the cash to get one...bleh.

I actually made that post to show how you could get anything you want out of that press release. October seems most likely.

PsychoJosh Jul 26, 2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kuttlas
I agree: There's too damn many of them and they're all the same.

Ahh, a kindred spirit :)

So can we say it's in october then? Right, it's settled, october. Set aside $20 every week until then, and it's yours.

Infernoman Jul 26, 2006 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by WraithTwo
The more interesting is the second, saying that since we found out the name, we've had the release date. The "W" in Wii in roman numerals being 10, and the two "i"s meaning 2.

Actually, "X" is equal to 10 in roman numerals...But I do agree with the theory that it will be released on Oct. 2nd. Turn "Wii" upside down, and you have Mii, which is equal to 1002. 10/02 anyone?

PsychoJosh Jul 26, 2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernoman
Actually, "X" is equal to 10 in roman numerals...But I do agree with the theory that it will be released on Oct. 2nd. Turn "Wii" upside down, and you have Mii, which is equal to 1002. 10/02 anyone?

Actually, if you turn Wii upside down, it's !!M. :naughty:

28Link Jul 26, 2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilroy
I seem to remember such a code breaking thing. It was also some Nintendo thing... What was it? Can't remember, but yet again it was something like "OMG, we get randomproduct. Just see here! Kick Ass And Take Names. 19 letters, rite? It could be that the game comes 1/9!"
Sure, they might do such a thing, and yet again, they might not. How will we know?

Actually, this reminds me of Nintendo's "Megaton" announcement, when people everywhere took the most random rumors and then made theories about said announcements from them. And then nothing actually happened.

WraithTwo Jul 26, 2006 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernoman
Actually, "X" is equal to 10 in roman numerals...But I do agree with the theory that it will be released on Oct. 2nd. Turn "Wii" upside down, and you have Mii, which is equal to 1002. 10/02 anyone?

I know that X is ten, but the "W" in Wii is two fives, which equals 10. Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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kuttlas Jul 27, 2006 02:05 AM

I have reason to believe that the release date will be July 31st: If you flip the word Wii upside down you get the word Mii (me). My birthday is July 31st. A Wii would make an awesome birthday present.

PsychoJosh Jul 27, 2006 10:12 AM

Goddammit it's not "Mii" upside down, it's "!!M"

NovaX Jul 27, 2006 10:24 AM

It's actually M!!, it's just upside-down, not inverted.

Elixir Jul 27, 2006 10:40 AM

People couldn't possibly be over exaggerating in this thread.

Just be patient and wait for the console to be released, jeez. It's not like it's critical information when the launch date is, because any living person with even a small hint of common sense knows not to buy a first model unit at launch prices with launch priced games.

Dark Nation Jul 27, 2006 10:49 AM

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As series go, FINAL FANTASY is to video games what James Bond is to movies.
Final Fantasy: Save the world & look good doing it, access to a cache of weapons & technology. Stopped being awesome after FFVII, which is overhyped. FFXII finally does shit right, but is taking forever to be released.
James Bond: Save the world & look good doing it, access to a cache of weapons & technology. Stopped being awesome after Goldeneye, which is overhyped. Casino Royale finally does shit right, but is taking forever to be released

Vampiro Jul 27, 2006 11:04 AM

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because any living person with even a small hint of common sense knows not to buy a first model unit at launch prices with launch priced games.
It's usually not a problem with Nintendo. All of mine are first-gen and they all work fine to this day. It's generally something you only have to worry about with Microsoft and especially Sony.

Monkey King Jul 27, 2006 06:11 PM

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Posted by Elixir
Just be patient and wait for the console to be released, jeez. It's not like it's critical information when the launch date is, because any living person with even a small hint of common sense knows not to buy a first model unit at launch prices with launch priced games.
A little publicized fact back when people were arguing whether Xboxes or PS2s broke down more was the Gamecube's incredible reliability. Nintendo builds pretty good hardware, and given that the Wii isn't trying to do anything outragous with its hardware, it stands to reason that it'll probably be way more stable than anything MS or Sony are putting out. 360s bursting into flames, anyone?

Neogin Jul 27, 2006 09:15 PM

I found this in a blog elsewhere..check it out.

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+ Nintendo [rumored] to hold own show
+ Nintendo's previous exclusive show was called "Space World"
+ Nintendo releases press release teasing at the possible time of release hidden in the press release itself
+ Above press release ends with the paragraph: "And, for Nintendo GameCube™ owners, The Legend of Zelda®: Twilight Princess will be available for you this fall. An enhanced version also will be a launch title for Wii. That will all happen on … Oh look, we're out of space."
+ The press release ends with the word "space" not "room" or "time" which, to me, are much more naturally flowing words for that sentence.
Your thoughts? Personally, I do believe a Space World event isn't out of the question, though.

PsychoJosh Jul 27, 2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaX
It's actually M!!, it's just upside-down, not inverted.

Oh. I rotated it; you just flipped it forward.

StarmanDX Jul 27, 2006 09:33 PM

Meh, Nintendo's done this sort of thing a lot, and nothing's ever actually been revealed in any of them. The Wii went into mass production at the beginning of July, anyways, so it's a pretty safe assumption to say that it will come out sometime from early October to mid November.

Issac Sarrowtai Aug 7, 2006 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampiro
It's usually not a problem with Nintendo. All of mine are first-gen and they all work fine to this day. It's generally something you only have to worry about with Microsoft and especially Sony.

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Originally Posted by Monkey King
A little publicized fact back when people were arguing whether Xboxes or PS2s broke down more was the Gamecube's incredible reliability. Nintendo builds pretty good hardware, and given that the Wii isn't trying to do anything outragous with its hardware, it stands to reason that it'll probably be way more stable than anything MS or Sony are putting out. 360s bursting into flames, anyone?

That is not to say that Nintendo is purfect, as far as I have seen it they seem to suffer from little design errors that become annoying (the Gamecube's oversized B button, The DS's Start button placement, [apparently, I have yet to prove this... thought with a iLite coming, I might] The DS Lite's hing issue, the N64 controler, SNES's overheading issue... etc.).
Granted, this is not to the scale of the Xbox recall, 360's heat issues (they are using a CPU with a historic heatting issue (a modified PowerPC chip, known on Macs of yesteryear), you would think that they would keep that in mind), The Japanese PS2 recall, and many heating issues with the PS2-post development, the PS2 reading issue, etc.... but nintendo does have it problems with systems even on the first shipment.
I can't say that the first set of Wii's will be perfect.

28Link Aug 7, 2006 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Issac Sarrowtai
...the Gamecube's oversized B button, The DS's Start button placement...the N64 controler...

Well, I don't think these would be considered malfunctions, as these are designs that are kept throughout the life of the systems (well, mabye except for DS, if you count DS Lite as a fix for that error). These are things that weren't "fixed" after the first batch. Oh and I'm assuming you meant the cube's A button there, since I don't see why anyone would be complaining at the B button being big.

As a side note, I did hear that SSBM did go through minor revisions following the initial release, so later versions have some glitch fixes and minor character balancing stuff. This kinda makes me hesitate when I'm thinking of buying a new game on release date, even though I probably won't notice it as a casual gamer.

Prime Blue Aug 8, 2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 28Link
This kinda makes me hesitate when I'm thinking of buying a new game on release date, even though I probably won't notice it as a casual gamer.

As there is WiiConnect24, this problem should be solved in the next generation. No need to buy revised versions, no Capcom special editions with two additional costumes. At least if Nintendo gets it right.

The_Griffin Aug 8, 2006 06:45 AM

That would require the Wii to be capable of burning discs, Prime.

And THAT would require enough memory to hold at LEAST 1.5 gigs of data (going by the assumption that the Wii discs will be as large as Gamecube discs), along with whatever patch data is downloaded. Oh, and then there's the patching application itself.

I could MAYBE see it happening if they had a REALLY good way (maybe streaming data onto the Flash memory, patching what needs to be patched, and burning it before moving onto the next section?), but it's just simply more realistic to assume that patches won't be downloaded to the Wii.

Prime Blue Aug 8, 2006 07:21 AM

Not necessarily. I think you'll be able to download patches either to the flash memory or - more likely due to the limited space of first mentioned storage media - SD cards. After a game is started an implemented patch check application burnt onto the game discs is executed and the load pointers will be set to the updated SD card versions of maps/polygonal models/music/programs. Otherwise WiiConnect24 would be pretty useless: New downloadable content is basically nothing else but a patch.

28Link Aug 8, 2006 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Prime Blue
As there is WiiConnect24, this problem should be solved in the next generation. No need to buy revised versions, no Capcom special editions with two additional costumes. At least if Nintendo gets it right.

Oh right, I forgot about that. They DID mention that the service would be used for extra stuff and mabye patches. I guess I'm just not used to my console games requiring patches and whatnot.

Prime Blue Aug 8, 2006 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 28Link
Oh right, I forgot about that. They DID mention that the service would be used for extra stuff and mabye patches.

Don't know about the latter.
But yeah, console games and patches usually don't go along with each other in one sentence. :D
WiiConnect24 could really change the way we play and experience games.
But since I'm a PAL kiddie I don't really have a problem with always getting the most recent and bug-free version of a game (see a lot of Konami's games, for example).

Acro-nym Aug 8, 2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin
...(going by the assumption that the Wii discs will be as large as Gamecube discs)...

They'll be larger. I'm fairly confident it's been confirmed by now that Wii disks will be the same size as those on the other consoles, though GC disks are still playable.


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