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Grubdog Jul 21, 2006 11:15 PM

No More Queermos
 
http://www.thewiire.com/news/371/1/H...ge_and_Details

EDIT: HELL YEAH! That site now has a high quality avi Divx version for download! Looks UNBELIEVABLE!

EDIT 2: hmm, seems the site has taken down the story, perhaps they weren't supposed to put it up yet? Suda DID say we'd get Heroes info at the end of July though.

Here's the youtube link anyway

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4U4236lzUg

Killer 7 fans REJOICE! This looks AMAZING! The style seems a bit more generic anime-like to me, but it still looks awesome enough, and there's probably a long time 'til release. I have a new most anticipated Wii game. I'm basing all of my excitement just on how awesome Killer 7 is, and how this seems almost like a sequel to it. We can't really tell what the gameplay will be like from the video, hopefully it stays simple like Killer 7, could be a nice game to play just using the Wii remote alone.

surasshu Jul 22, 2006 12:17 AM

Bloody flippin' ecker!

That was exciting. If the game is even half as good as that trailer it'll be a Wii-seller by itself. Love the music too.

It's unclear to me also what the gameplay will be like, but it looks kinda like a fighting game on crack? If so, that should work just fine for me. Then again, Killer7 was hardly the best gameplay ever imaginable, its aweso...misity... yeah, was based on other things.

Infernal Monkey Jul 22, 2006 01:02 AM

Killer 7 style, Lightsabers, Megaman, comically bad voice acting, this is going to be awesome. <3

Angry Chicken Jul 22, 2006 04:10 AM

Woah, That looks nice. I'll look for some other screenshots. If i ever got a Wii, then i would buy this.

Kimchi Jul 22, 2006 08:50 AM

Wow, this game sure got my attention. Looks amazing. This game is going to be on my Wii list.

Rock Jul 22, 2006 09:09 AM

This game is better not anything like Killer 7, because that was one of the most boring games I've played in a while. Trailer looks good, although it's not revealing a lot about the game itself.

Forsakenzoul Jul 22, 2006 12:20 PM

Looks sweet ^^ cant wait

Eleo Jul 22, 2006 12:30 PM

It seems like the voice acting is supposed to suck ass. Am I correct here?

KazeJiyuu Jul 22, 2006 12:56 PM

The game looks funny, especially because of the VA. And I wonder if you can choose between those two to be the top mercenary or something.

surasshu Jul 22, 2006 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleo
It seems like the voice acting is supposed to suck ass. Am I correct here?

I don't know. It really sucks, intentional or not... It's not really annoying me, though, so I guess it's alright.

WraithTwo Jul 22, 2006 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleo
It seems like the voice acting is supposed to suck ass. Am I correct here?

Thats generally the feeling I got watching it.

I just hope that the gameplay lives up to the hype the teaser has injected directly into my brain.

- WraithTwo -

Technophile Jul 22, 2006 03:00 PM

The voice acting is just :tpg:

The music is kickass though. Yet another great looking Wii game! Can't wait!

FatsDomino Jul 22, 2006 04:14 PM

I hope they only talk during cutscenes because if they start speaking during gameplay I'll always fail from laughing too much. What terrible voice acting! ='D

NES Oldskooler Jul 22, 2006 04:29 PM

So are the graphics in-game going to look like that? If so, I'm not sure why the Wii's hardware is being downplayed so much, because that looks great.

I agree with Rock that the gameplay had better be more interesting than Killer 7, though.

guyinrubbersuit Jul 22, 2006 06:12 PM

Meh. Doesn't look special at all. Graphics are neat, but man the voice acting is horrible (intentional or not it's distracting) and the action is typical anime flair. I'll wait for reviews on this one.

Helloween Jul 22, 2006 06:17 PM

This game has me excited as hell. I'm going to buy it, seeing as how it's reached that special stage of excitment for me, in that i will keep thinking about it until it reaches a level of perfection in my mind, then it will be completley different than i imagined. Hopefully, it'll be better than what i imagine.

I guess i need to play Killer 7.

Solis Jul 22, 2006 07:42 PM

Looks pretty much the same as Killer 7 to me, except a bit shinier and with...lightsabers? Meh, I'll wait for it to hit the budget bin before I pick it up, wasn't really a big fan of Killer 7 and this doesn't look all that different.

But yes, the voice acting is hilarious, I'm guessing they're just temp voices (the E3 2004 Star Fox Assault voices still make me chuckle).

Wall Feces Jul 22, 2006 09:26 PM

WOW. Watching that just made me say the same thing I said when I first saw the Killer7 trailer.

"I don't care how it plays, I want it."

If this is anything like Killer7, I'm in for a huge treat, since that was my favorite game of last year. And what about that music?! My god, this thing screams coolness!

omglasplagas Jul 27, 2006 10:10 PM

Am I the only one who thinks like this is going to a be a Hybrid of K7 and ... Metroid Hunters?

Duking it out to be the top Hitman. Could have interesting Online components?

surasshu Jul 28, 2006 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by NES Oldskooler
So are the graphics in-game going to look like that? If so, I'm not sure why the Wii's hardware is being downplayed so much, because that looks great.

I agree with Rock that the gameplay had better be more interesting than Killer 7, though.

While it is absolutely true that the Wii will be capable of great-looking graphics (hey, so was the Gamecube), there is a good reason for that: no HD. HD isn't the revolution that Microsoft and Sony are hoping it is, but it does make a difference.

Not like I care, because I play my games on a TV from 1976 that doesn't support anything. But, you know, just sayin'...

But I agree--these graphics look sweet. Mario Galaxy is sweet-lookin' too, so I am certainly not worried that I'll feel like I'm looking at a past-generation system. (I suppose we don't know for sure if this is in-game graphics footage, but Killer 7 looked a lot like this...)

Malmer Jul 28, 2006 05:47 AM

Looks pretty neat, I like the style a lot! Though I never got into Killer 7 (I was pretty spooked by some trailer and that sick laughing - more than any horror game ever has).

But wow I hate the voices - this reeks of geeks doing those shrill voices themselves...
Reminds me Guild Wars Factions, where this old key-person has this annoying thin geeky voice (with futile attempt to make it deeper). EW!

J-Man Jul 28, 2006 01:35 PM

That music is the best I've heard in a while. It's like slightly more melodic Metroid Prime music. The graphics and laughable cutscenes wrap up the package nicely too. That giant rocket attack wasnt bad either

dhsu87 Jul 28, 2006 03:10 PM

wow. this game looks so sick. is there a term for the art direction. it's not really cel-shading but it's got that awesome comic/dark-cartoon batman artistic flair.
stylish....

chaofan Jul 29, 2006 09:06 AM

The first link Grubdog posted has been taken off (cause they weren't supposed to release the trailer yet) so thank god for youtube.

This game is look amazing and hopefully the story will be as eccentric as Killer7. The art direction is very Suda 51 and hopefully Heroes will use the Wii controller well. The music is very well accomplished, setting up the mood and complementing the art direction that is being taken.

And to agree with everyone else, the voice acting is horrid. Well, Sylvia and Helter's VAs are okay as they sound B-grade enough, but Travis?!!?!!! "WHAT? YOU WANT ME TO THANK YOOOU????"

Well excuuuuse me princess!

Hybrid Hunter Jul 31, 2006 03:38 AM

Man, that trailer looks awesome.
I really have to go play Killer 7 (even though there isn't a connection between these two games).

28Link Jul 31, 2006 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Hybrid Hunter
Man, that trailer looks awesome.
I really have to go play Killer 7 (even though there isn't a connection between these two games).

That is, assuming the Smiths don't appear in this game. Imagine, if one of the top ten is the Smiths, that would be awsome. Too bad it probably wouldn't happen.

Grubdog Jul 31, 2006 01:26 PM

Well
Spoiler:
if the Travis in Heroes is the same as the Travis in Killer 7, he got killed by Harman Smith, who we might see at some point in Heroes.

StarmanDX Jul 31, 2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grubdog
Well
Spoiler:
if the Travis in Heroes is the same as the Travis in Killer 7, he got killed by Harman Smith, who we might see at some point in Heroes.

Spoiler:
Except Killer7 Travis was killed in the 1970's in the Killer7 world, and at that point I don't think they quite had the technology that Heroes has. Plus they look completely different.

Man, now you guys have my hopes up that one of the later Smith syndicates will be in the game. Too bad it almost definitely won't happen. Although I wouldn't be too surprised to see an unrelated enemy with Multifoliate Personae Phenomena.

Grubdog Jul 31, 2006 11:15 PM

Spoiler:
Actually there are hints the game is somehow set in the 60s or 70s, such as Helter Skelter name and apparently that chicks name is the same as some 70s porn star name was. Though those references doesn't mean it's actually IN the 70s, also considering how the game looks... Who knows!

28Link Sep 23, 2006 11:13 AM

The "new"/official vid is out, check it out at gametrailers. It's basically the same as the leaked one, with a bit of added/altered video effects, changed the music (not as good as before, I think), and they redid the voice acting (same lines, less cheesy).

Wall Feces Sep 23, 2006 05:21 PM

I can't find it, would it be too hard to link it?

28Link Sep 23, 2006 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sprouticus
I can't find it, would it be too hard to link it?

Haha, sorry about that, I kinda got lazy. I can't seem to find it though, they might have taken it off. I have the vid on my hd, but I'll need some place to upload it to.

Wall Feces Sep 23, 2006 11:07 PM

www.sendspace.com

Do it up! I'm getting antsy!!

WraithTwo Sep 24, 2006 12:55 AM

The reason you couldn't find it is because the new title is Project: Heroes. Search under that, and it'll come right up.

Honestly though, the new trailer blows. All they did was made the music suck, remove the beheading of Helter Skelter and make the voice acting less interesting, while not really improving its quality at all.

- WraithTwo -

28Link Sep 24, 2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus
www.sendspace.com

Do it up! I'm getting antsy!!

Sorry about that, I wasn't at my comp since I last posted. I'm uploading it now.

Anyway, WrathTwo basically summed up the key points to the vid. They basically took out what I thought was the best part of the original vid.

EDIT: http://www.sendspace.com/file/n6l989

Lukage Sep 25, 2006 10:35 PM

http://media.wii.ign.com/media/827/827358/vids_1.html for those who hate Sendspace.

I seem to have misplaced the old trailer...but could you see Sylvia's bra before? MOAR PLEASE!

StarmanDX Nov 29, 2006 08:18 PM

Heroes Now No More Heroes, and much more revealed in the newest issue of Famitsu.

Quote:

No More Heroes takes place in the city of Santa Destroy, which is designed to look like a big city in the Western United States. You're free to explore the town to your liking, taking on missions large and small to collect money and purchase new weapons, although the game's storyline progresses only when you take on big killing jobs from the UAA. Your day begins in your motel room, where you change your clothes and get ready for a day out on the town. You can walk around town if you like, or you can speed around on your futuristic Schpeltiger motor bike.
Ugh. I had been really anticipating this game when I thought it might be like Killer7 with Wii controls. Now that it sounds like a GTA clone, I'm not nearly as hyped for it. I won't pass judgment until I play it, of course, but this doesn't bode well.

On the other hand, I really like the way the story background unfolds:

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In No More Heroes, you play as Travis Touchdown, a geek who wins a Beam Katana (a weapon that resembles a Light Saber) through an online auction and uses the weapon to start a new career as a professional killer.
Too bad you apparently can't play as Helter Skelter, though. =/

Wall Feces Nov 29, 2006 08:37 PM

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T-shirts aside, No More Heroes is all about using your Beam Katana to defeat enemies. When fighting, you position the Wiimote facing up, centered, or facing down in order to move Travis into one of three fighting positions. To perform standard attacks, you repeatedly press the A button.
I was also hoping for some Wii-mote fighting that didnt involve the A button, but oh well... Hoping this will turn out better than it sounds!

Amayirot Akago Nov 30, 2006 12:21 AM

Killer 7 was one of the primary reasons I hated not having a GC, and I'll prolly pick up this game too. Beam Katana FTW.

Krelian Nov 30, 2006 05:58 AM

I don't really like the radical shift in art style.



I loved the cel-shading from the trailer :(

Amayirot Akago Nov 30, 2006 06:22 AM

Hmmm... hopefully that's an early alpha or something with cel-shading not implented yet. I REALLY don't hope that's gonna be the game's final look.

chaofan Nov 30, 2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by StarmanDX
Too bad you apparently can't play as Helter Skelter, though. =/

UNLESS............... He appears later in the game as an integral part of the story. I don't think they'd show a character that'll only appear at the start of the plot... But knowing Suda, we won't know.

It is sounding like a GTA clone but you know what? It'll probably do wonders to finally put the nail on the "kiddy" image that Nintendo has (doing great to shake it off with Wii's sleek design). The Nintendophiles and hardcore gamers might not care, but it'll help immerse the new audience Nintendo has it's sights set on.

A BEAM SWORD. HMMM... OH GOD WHERE HAVE I SEEN/HEARD/SMELT THIS BEFORE???!!?!? (still love it though)

WraithTwo Nov 30, 2006 02:42 PM

I really don't mind the graphical changes at all. Sure, its not what was expected, but as long as they're clean, I don't care what style they're in, really. I am disappointed to hear that it's a GTA clone, however, being from Suda I hope it turns out as something more.

The combat sounds like something that might be really bad on paper, and really good in reality, so I'll have to wait and see.

Overall, I think this is definitely a title to continue to watch.

- WraithTwo -

StarmanDX Nov 30, 2006 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaofan
UNLESS............... He appears later in the game as an integral part of the story. I don't think they'd show a character that'll only appear at the start of the plot... But knowing Suda, we won't know.

I don't know, even with Suda, being beheaded kinda makes it difficult for someone to be in a story later except as a ghost. It'd be interesting, though, if No More Heroes has as much a supernatural side as Killer7 did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaofan
It is sounding like a GTA clone but you know what? It'll probably do wonders to finally put the nail on the "kiddy" image that Nintendo has.

If Killer7, Eternal Darkness, Red Steel, and all the Resident Evil's for GC couldn't do that, I hardly see how this can. =/

Infernal Monkey Dec 1, 2006 02:36 AM

Non-scanny scan screens.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/medsia_01.jpg

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/maaaedia.jpg

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/meddsia.jpg

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/meskkdia_01.jpg

Mmmm, crappy 35% complete graphics!

Amayirot Akago Dec 1, 2006 02:53 AM

Hmmm, looks like there still is a small degree of cel-shading going on there.

Beam Katana still looks as sexy as ever though:biggrin:

chaofan Dec 1, 2006 03:01 AM

Seems Travis Touchdown has styled his hair a bit since the last trailer. Hopefully he's grown some balls too (YOUR SHINY ARMOUR AND FINE WORDS WON'T GET YOU ANYWHERE!)

MuppeTFuckeR Dec 3, 2006 06:14 PM

you can see the full Famitsu scans here - http://www.jeux-france.com/news18324...-d-images.html

Krelian Dec 4, 2006 06:34 AM

Okay, so this is basically a cyberpunk GTA.


I really am loving the look of this, actually.

Infernal Monkey Dec 4, 2006 09:04 PM

IGN's just put up a heap of new screens. =o

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053838643.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053835003.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053836784.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053846643.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053907346.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053906674.jpg

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...4053849456.jpg

More here. And artwork!


Amayirot Akago Dec 5, 2006 08:17 AM

Woah, phat bike he's got there :D

Reznor Jan 29, 2007 10:16 PM

Well, No More Heroes -will- essentially be a GTA clone, but it will have RPG elements (stat increasing/levelling up) and also online play which Suda51 have yet to talk about.

NovaX Jan 29, 2007 11:30 PM

Quote:

Well, No More Heroes -will- essentially be a GTA clone, but it will have RPG elements (stat increasing/levelling up) and also online play which Suda51 has yet to talk about.
Suda 51 is a person, dumbshit.

Also why bump the thread for no reason? I don't understand.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 30, 2007 01:50 AM

Because the subject of No More Heroes should always be on the minds of Wii owners.

Amayirot Akago Jan 30, 2007 03:15 AM

Yes. Quite.

Though we're prolly getting Elebits before this.:D

Krelian Jan 30, 2007 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Amayirot Akago (Post 376545)
Yes. Quite.

Though we're prolly getting Elebits before this.:D

Europe is never getting Elebits, unfortunately.

What the hell is an Eledee.

Reznor Jan 30, 2007 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaX (Post 376212)
Suda 51 is a person, dumbshit.

Also why bump the thread for no reason? I don't understand.

Man, you're a massive fucking tool.

If there was only a scale of measurement for how fucking toolish you are....

Question, when does anyone but Suda51 do interviews for Suda51 games?

If you want the actual information:
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Boasting a similar, super-stylised cel-shaded look, the game puts you in command of an assassin; a guy trying to work his way up the Hitman’s ladder to become the best killer in the whole twisted, morally-dubious world.
To do this you’ll have to face off against rivals wielding a ‘Beam Katana’ – a lightsabre style weapon that you control by swinging the Wii remote through three different levels (high, middle and low).
As you progress, you can buy new weapons and swords from the game’s sword mistress, as well as upgrade your skills in an RPG style.
So, go fuck off now. Also, this thread deserved a well needed bump.

I also think that the Wii only registering at three different levels (hi, mid, low) is quite relevant to this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krelian (Post 376621)
Europe is never getting Elebits, unfortunately.

What the hell is an Eledee.

Blame Europe and their insane 'PC' marketing.

NovaX Feb 20, 2007 08:30 AM

New interview with Suda51 at IGN

Nothing new really, except that Suda promises a violent game.
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Originally Posted by Suda
I'll do my best and create No More Heroes as a standard violence game.

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We are tuning up No More Heroes to be simple and comfortable, but exciting and refreshing as a game. The game has a unique sense of humor and I hope fans will be excited about and look forward to it.

I'll also try my best to make No More Heroes as violent, or even more violent than Manhunt 2!
It was, if anything, a bit of a disheartening interview. :(
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Originally Posted by Reznor (Post 377333)
Question, when does anyone but Suda51 do interviews for Suda51 games?

Suda51 games? Suda51 (Goichi Suda) is the president of Grasshopper Manafacture. Suda51 is not a company. Suda51 is a person.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6306/dunnofw8.jpg

Reznor Feb 21, 2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaX (Post 395546)
New interview with Suda51 at IGN

Nothing new really, except that Suda promises a violent game.

It was, if anything, a bit of a disheartening interview. :(
Suda51 games? Suda51 (Goichi Suda) is the president of Grasshopper Manafacture. Suda51 is not a company. Suda51 is a person.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6306/dunnofw8.jpg

Oooo. A mistake, makes me a http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6306/dunnofw8.jpg

Either way, you're a http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1...chrono2cq5.jpg Have you even read any of Suda51's other interviews? The guy NEVER says too much, he's always vague and disheartening.

So quit being a http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7...430x326rq6.jpg and just suck it up.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Feb 22, 2007 03:54 AM

If you're going to be literal about shit like "http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6306/dunnofw8.jpg", you have to admit "http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7...430x326rq6.jpg" isn't the best choice for flaming.

Infernal Monkey Feb 22, 2007 07:29 PM

Guys, guys, this isn't The Sewers, stop being a bunch of Channel 7 news readers, badly drawn Chrono's and Bub's okay please. =o

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Feb 22, 2007 10:30 PM

Hey, don't drag me into this! I was just saying he needs to chill out.

Readded my quotation marks!

speculative Feb 23, 2007 09:09 PM

Very interesting game by the looks of it. Kind of reminds me of Shenmue with cell shading?

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Mar 9, 2007 09:08 PM

Suda 51 showed off a new trailer at GDC. Not a ton of new stuff, but you get a pretty good idea of how the game plays.

New assassin revealed, by the name of Destroy Man-- basically, a guy in a superhero suit who shoots energy beams out of his crotch.

Infernal Monkey Mar 9, 2007 09:37 PM

Haha wow, Suda's definitely living up to the whole 'more violent than Manhunt!' thing. Lopping heads off, slicing people in half, now it just needs angry bleeding vagina monster from Michigan to make a cameo. And Destroy Man is the new Captain Falcon. <3

chaofan Mar 9, 2007 10:20 PM

And thank god Travis sounds like a kick-ass character now. Wasn't the voice in the first trailer the same one as Link in the old-ass Zelda cartoons?

"WELL EXCUUUUUUSE ME FOR HAVING THAT KIND OF VOICE..."
"SHADDUP FAGGOT."

Looks very promising. Don't know if it is as "violent" as Manhunt yet, but it's safe to say this is a game your grandma wouldn't want to play.

garthvadr3 Mar 10, 2007 12:01 AM

the game looks awsome but I am a little concerned about the frame rate in the trailer, hopefully it will all be ironed out by the games launch. Mario Galaxy looks amazing (pseudo-next gen look with lots of multi texturing) and runs at a solid framerate, so there is no reason why no more heros shouldn't run at a high frame rate also, especially with its simplified graphical style.

Amayirot Akago Mar 10, 2007 03:33 AM

Whoa. This is SO my kinda game. Ultraviolence & bikes FTW :D

28Link Mar 10, 2007 12:18 PM

Visually, this game seems to be very similar to Killer 7, mabye a bit too similar. I'm not saying I don't like that style, but, I don't know, I guess I was hoping for something a bit different. Gameplay-wise, it looks interesting, but the city seems to be a bit underpopulated at the moment. It would be nice to be able to travel around the area on his awsome motorcycle, but if everything looks so empty, it just gets tedious to travel.

garthvadr3 Mar 10, 2007 05:52 PM

Well I am hoping that the video is early and that they are adding more detail while smoothing the framerate because I know Wii can run what I am currently seeing (lanscapes with no textues what-so-ever, and little going on) at 60fps, granted the programmers know what they are doing. Killer 7 was good and it was well programed so I expect this one to turn out to be just as solid in the end.

In comparison Sonic and Mario Galaxy booth look better and run better for now. I reference only these two games because they are the only two games I currently consider true Wii games. Till companies stop porting PS2 and GC rippoffs at least...

I can only dream :)

but hopefully Grasshopper has some changes up their sleeve.

WraithTwo Mar 10, 2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by garthvadr3 (Post 410655)
Well I am hoping that the video is early and that they are adding more detail while smoothing the framerate because I know Wii can run what I am currently seeing (lanscapes with no textues what-so-ever, and little going on) at 60fps, granted the programmers know what they are doing. Killer 7 was good and it was well programed so I expect this one to turn out to be just as solid in the end.

In comparison Sonic and Mario Galaxy booth look better and run better for now. I reference only these two games because they are the only two games I currently consider true Wii games. Till companies stop porting PS2 and GC rippoffs at least...

I can only dream :)

but hopefully Grasshopper has some changes up their sleeve.

Sorry, but Metroid Prime 3 was graphically great, and I thought SSBB looked up to par as well, although some would disagree.

- WraithTwo -

28Link Mar 10, 2007 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WraithTwo (Post 410688)
Sorry, but Metroid Prime 3 was graphically great, and I thought SSBB looked up to par as well, although some would disagree.

- WraithTwo -

Prime 3 does indeed look much better than GC stuff, but SSBB I'm not too sure about. In terms of visuals, everything that was shown for the game so far seemed like some texture upgrades, otherwise, it doesn't seem like something that's so much better than SSBM/

garthvadr3 Mar 10, 2007 07:48 PM

Yea forgot about Prime 3 for a second, That one does look good but I havn't seen enough multi texturing in it. It looks really really similar to Prime 2 just with more stuff going on, maybe my opinion will change when I see more of it. The fight with Ridley was the only part I have seen that nears next gen gfx.

and SSBB has much higher quality textures and higher poly counts but it doesn't look like it ws something GC couldn't do in its later years of development. Again maybe my opinion will change when I see more finished examples of it.

Helloween Mar 10, 2007 08:53 PM

I'm rather disappointed with the turns this game has planned from the impression i originally got from it. I was looking forward to sweet, inventive, story heavy depraved action game as per Killer 7. Now we were it's just gonna be a cell shaded GTA? I'm thinking i should leave this game by the wayside.

Infernal Monkey Mar 10, 2007 09:07 PM

I believe while the city environment is free to roam, you won't be able to cause GTA style mayhem at random. I'm pretty sure I read that. Somewhere. I think. ;_;

Tama8-chan Mar 10, 2007 09:43 PM

The game really doesn't look as impressive anymore compared to the original teaser trailer.
Now THAT was hella stylish. I hope that this new look is completely smoothed out and the framerate improved.

With the whole 'more violent than Manhunt 2' thing, I don't think it'd be THAT violent, I mean....a standard animation of either slicing people in half or chopping their heads off, that'd become boring after a while.
Hopefully there's still some graphic violence elements that will surpass everything we've expected from this. Something to definitely look forward to, I guess.

mrEkli Mar 11, 2007 02:04 AM

That's still violence. I think it's because we're very much so desensitized by all this stuff.

This game looks great. But I have no idea how it'll play. This is gonna be awesome!

Tuigi Mar 14, 2007 10:25 AM

they seem to have changed the original Zelda-style slashing mechanic to a simple press of the A button, which is kind of sad but i guess if they had that changed it's because it plays better that way.
and for the whole violence thing i dont see how having a game that is ultra violent adds anything to it, I mean slicing the head of a guy to kill him him OR slicing his testicules off whit the A button then feeding it to him until he vomits his organs is pretty much the same thing gameplay wise.

Krelian Jun 22, 2007 02:17 PM

Bumpsome!

A few new points of interest:

- The game's save function. It's a toilet.

- Suda's paying a little homage to Grindhouse.
Quote:

I wanted to show this character as quickly as possible since it looks almost like a character from the double-feature movie Grindhouse. But in the movie, it's a machine gun, while Holly has a missile, so she has more firepower!
http://kotaku.com/gaming/homage/suda...use-270796.php

- New in-game screensizzles!

Delightfully stylised HUD!

speculative Jun 24, 2007 10:52 AM

I understand the cell-shading concept, but is that really an excuse for Dreamcast-level background textures?

Krelian Jun 26, 2007 07:07 AM

hey guys the wii has SHIT graphics :mad: have you heard yet? :mad:

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Sep 20, 2007 07:39 PM

No More Heroes confirmed for stateside release.

C'mon, February!

Infernal Monkey Sep 20, 2007 08:48 PM

So Rising Star was confirmed as the PAL publisher months ago, and now Ubisoft's picked up the American release. The last game to match this set of publishers.. was.. WAS

WAS

http://www.gametab.com/images/ss/ds/4327/box-l.jpg

So No More Heroes will be as good as Lunar DS CONFIRMED.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Sep 20, 2007 09:01 PM

Rating pending forever. :tpg:

Elixir Sep 21, 2007 10:19 PM

The bad voice acting is intentional, right? It seems like something they would do.

In any case, I like how this looks. It's like someone mixed God Hand with Killer7.

Infernal Monkey Sep 21, 2007 10:31 PM

I really liked the old over the top bad voice acting. Now I can't tell if they're trying or not. =')

YouTube Video

ZaKa TV's back for the third time!

Elixir Sep 21, 2007 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 506553)
I really liked the old over the top bad voice acting. Now I can't tell if they're trying or not. =')

YouTube Video

ZaKa TV's back for the third time!

Oh that is WEIRD, I was linked to this video about an hour ago. MOE~~

Also, he says "fuckhead". Swearing is bad, Nintendo. :(

Amayirot Akago Sep 22, 2007 03:13 AM

Goddammit, they took out the excessive bloodspurts. Oh well, game is still gonna rock from the looks of that trailer.

Infernal Monkey Sep 23, 2007 03:34 AM

Nah, the fountains of blood will still be there. Just.. not for Japan.

Quote:

Suda's on record as saying No More Heroes was going to be violent. Like, Manhunt 2 violent. Yet playing it I noticed there was no blood. Not a drop. Enemies instead disappeared in a puff of black smoke and...coins. So I asked what's up, does he still want to make it ultra-violent?

"Oh yes. The version you played is the Japanese version, which won't be featuring much blood", he said. Understandable, because Japanese censors don't take much shit. "Besides", he kids, "he's using a lightsaber, which burns the wound when you cut someone".

Western sadists shouldn't be too concerned: he says gushing fountains of crimson are expected to feature in the American and European releases, both which are due in February 2008.

Amayirot Akago Sep 23, 2007 03:44 AM

Ah, thought it was something like that, since they censored the Japanese version of Resident Evil 4 as well.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Sep 23, 2007 12:12 PM

For some reason, I can't see this game being average. It's either going to be immense amounts of awesome or absolutely terrible.

I'm excited to see what the verdict is and, if it's good, buy it.

Kimchi Sep 23, 2007 03:38 PM

I agree, its 50/50 ._. phail or suceed.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Nov 28, 2007 12:54 PM

It's about time to bump this, as the game's about to come out in Japan and Famitsu scored it recently.

Quote:

No More Heroes (Marvelous) - 9, 8, 8, 9 - (34/40)
Not too shabby, either!

The official website has some new videos that show off combat a bit more extensively (check out "Travis Action").

"I'll kick you in the nuts!"

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 3, 2007 02:33 PM

Fine, okay, you guys didn't like that update. How about this one!

JP Boxart!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...5L._SS400_.jpg

US Trailers!

Featuring Darkside Travis, evasive rolls, Death Metal, Dr. Peace, and a lot of decapitations!

This game comes out very soon in Japan. As in, for us in North America, the middle of the day tomorrow.

Kimchi Dec 3, 2007 04:39 PM

*GASP* Coming out tommorow? :gonk: I don't even know they had pre-order ~__~ but than, since there aren't many Wii's where I live <3 I still have chance of getting it.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 3, 2007 06:16 PM

No, that's when it comes out in Japan. Unless you're in Japan, in which case yes, it will be tomorrow.

I was saying Japanese stores open for the day during the afternoon in the US. The North American release is sometime in February.

trackjacket Dec 3, 2007 06:53 PM

IGN has their review copy of the game and will be continuously updating throughout the week with new No More Heroes media.

Monday IGN update -

Preview: IGN: No More Heroes Preview

Three new videos: IGN: No More Heroes Trailer, Videos and Movies

Kimchi Dec 4, 2007 07:03 PM

Is this delayed or something?

trackjacket Dec 4, 2007 07:25 PM

Comes out on Thursday in Japan. February in the US.

Kimchi Dec 4, 2007 07:34 PM

Boo! I thought U.S was going to get the first dip?

Slayer X Dec 4, 2007 10:17 PM

Nope. February release for NA. Sometime around the Smash Bros. release. Smooth move guys...

trackjacket Dec 4, 2007 11:12 PM

Yeah, kind of dumb on Ubisoft's part. It's not like the game has much appeal outside of a niche audience, to begin with. The IGN Wii guys said they were going to try and talk to Ubisoft and see if they could convince them to get the release date either pushed back or moved up, since the game's localization has already been completely finished, and just needs to go gold. Pretty doubtful that they'll change the date, though, since publishers generally adhere to a strict release schedule.

Kimchi Dec 5, 2007 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slayer X (Post 545076)
Nope. February release for NA. Sometime around the Smash Bros. release. Smooth move guys...

~_____________________~ epic fail.

trackjacket Dec 5, 2007 09:34 PM

IGN: The Jobs of No More Heroes

Some menial tasks you can complete in No More Heroes:
- Coconut collector.
- Lawn mowing.
- Garbage collecting.
- Gas station attendent.

Kimchi Dec 6, 2007 04:54 PM

Sounds like bunch of useless GTA mini games.

Slayer X Dec 6, 2007 07:54 PM

That's because they are mini-games and there are a lot of inside jokes about the game industry made in this game. That, the over the top blood, and the crazy story & characters is what makes this my most looked forward to Wii game of '08.

Infernal Monkey Dec 8, 2007 03:54 AM

PAL version censored.

Quote:

It's hardly a crucial matter, but after recently playing the European version of No More Heroes - the assassination actioner from Killer 7 creator Suda 51 - we're a bit miffed about the lack of bloody violence. Especially since Suda had always promised the game could be "even more violent than Manhunt 2".

Ah. But that appears to refer to the American version, which features decapitations, ludicrously brilliant fountains of blood and other ultraviolent combat consequences. In Europe, we'll be playing the 'dead bodies turn to black ash' version, which is also released in Japan.

Why? Well, we asked the chaps who showed us the game, from publisher Rising Star Games, if the decision had been influenced by the BBFC's refusal to grant Manhunt 2 a Euro release. "Maybe," was their terse answer. Hmmm.
oof.

Personally I don't give a shit (wuh ooooh I need mah red on da screen), but it seems a bit silly considering the Euro rating system allows for 18+ games. Killer7 was rated 18+. Rockstaaaaaar! :argh:

Krelian Dec 8, 2007 04:18 AM

dgsgdsfgdsfdssahasdhjkfgldhj

First Brawl comes out in June (at BEST) here, and now this. I'm no blood-fixated kiddie, but I sure do hate censorship!

Orderin' mah Wiikey.

Infernal Monkey Dec 8, 2007 04:29 AM

Actually, now I'm also wondering what Rising Star will do to the box art.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/pho...07120607_1.jpg

I guess copping a feel won't go down so well for the PAL one.. and remember, this is the same publisher that turned this..

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...eBobbleDSJ.jpg

into THIS

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...Revolution.jpg

:tpg:

Rotorblade Dec 8, 2007 04:58 AM

Apparently, shitty box art is the right of all sentient beings, Infernal.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 8, 2007 01:16 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they changed the North American boxart too, since it could pretty easily give the wrong impression about the gameplay.

Kimchi Dec 8, 2007 07:51 PM

I hope they do. I dun really like JP box.

Slayer X Dec 8, 2007 09:42 PM

The JP art isn't anything special. The NA one could easily be bad, but at the same time it could also be better. Therefore I'm open to it.

Elixir Dec 9, 2007 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrelEN (Post 547326)
dgsgdsfgdsfdssahasdhjkfgldhj

First Brawl comes out in June (at BEST) here, and now this. I'm no blood-fixated kiddie, but I sure do hate censorship!

Orderin' mah Wiikey.

I hope you didn't. The Japanese version of No More Heroes doesn't work on European Wii consoles, legit versions or not. It doesn't seem to matter what Wii modchip you have either, so basically you're stuck with the PAL version, unless the US one miraculously happens to work.

I want this so badly, because I'm gay for Suda. And, because it's so terribly reminiscent of God Hand. The one game I've been looking forward to for months, and this happens. :(

I don't mind the censorship really, since it isn't cutting content (Hello Koei, hello European Nippon Ichi titles), and will be basically the same as the original. It's when they go cutting even more stuff then it becomes a problem.

kuttlas Dec 10, 2007 06:00 PM

So basically Japan can go to hell
Quote:

Originally Posted by gonintendo.com/?p=31186
We showed you the No More Heroes launch event last week, in which executive producer Yasuhiro Wada and Goichi Suda were out in front of a game retailer willing to sign autographs. I thought it was great to see them out there promoting the game, and willing to meet up with the public. Too bad no one cared…

After 20 minutes of being outside the store, not one single person came by and bought the game. All those people walking by, and no one was interested in the game. The situation was so bad that someone from Enterbrain that was covering the event actually went inside, bought a copy, and brought it out for the pair to sign.

Japan, you are really getting on my nerves. I like training games too, but they aren’t the end all/be all of gaming. Where did your heart go?

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

trackjacket Dec 10, 2007 07:04 PM

Man, this picture's so sad. No one wants the game, yet Suda 51 and Yasuhiro Wada look so enthusiastic about being there.

http://xs322.xs.to/xs322/07502/2007-12-07-411.jpg

One more image:
http://xs322.xs.to/xs322/07502/2007-12-07-410.jpg

Kimchi Dec 10, 2007 07:18 PM

... I guess this is failure in Japan huh? Let's hope the gameplay doesn't suck.

trackjacket Dec 10, 2007 10:36 PM

It's kind of hard to say if it's a failure, as there's a dichotomy present. On one hand, it's likely going to be the highest debut for a Suda 51 game ever (his highest first week sales ever was 15.3k, can't recall the name, but will look it up upon request), with No More heroes selling 10k copies on its opening day. On the other hand, No More Heroes will be lucky to pass 30k sold in its lifetime.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 11, 2007 02:53 AM

Poor Suda. I would've been there. :(

The game will sell far more in North America. Definitely not one of those one million in a week type of games, but I think it should at least hit 50k in its first week. I'm hoping for a sleeper hit that sells 100k or so, but I would seriously doubt it. Not with the Wii userbase and demographic.

All in all, I echo the "Japan can go to hell" sentiment. Scorn a bad game-- not an awesome third-party title for the Wii.

Malmer Dec 12, 2007 05:41 AM

It's too bad, this game was a 'must buy' for me, and sadly the only non-1st party game left on my list.

I'm not buying an uncomplete version. Game is boycotted.

=/

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 12, 2007 01:18 PM

You must be talking about the censoring. How that makes a game incomplete is beyond me.

It's like saying the original Japanese release is incomplete, too.

Malmer Dec 12, 2007 01:32 PM

I'm no blood-whore, but it's like removing the blood from Kill Bill. The extreme spurting is a part of Suda's whole artistic vision.

Killer7 without blood? Fuck no.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 12, 2007 01:49 PM

Artistic vision? It causes slowdown. If art gets in the way of practicality, I say fuck it.

The black spray is what Suda was okay with, so I don't see why you need more.

Malmer Dec 12, 2007 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Generic Badass (Post 550120)
Artistic vision? It causes slowdown. If art gets in the way of practicality, I say fuck it.

The black spray is what Suda was okay with, so I don't see why you need more.

I'm not ok with it. But there's also a significant part I'm not particular proud of. Something as lame as a principle, but it fills me.
Europe got screwed again. This joke is so old, it hardly ever raises an eyebrow. It's our standard. Heard EU got screwed? Yeah well...

Normally I just import (enjoying my dualshock 3 by the way, the rest of Europe may get it in 2008 (may not?), for twice the price in the stores here).
This would require me to modchip or import a new Wii though, and it will suddenly cost me some dough I shouldn't have lost in the first place.
All for the sake of licking Germany's ass or whatever.

Not supporting.

I really think I would have enjoyed this game though.

Infernal Monkey Dec 15, 2007 03:45 AM

Yeah but for everytime we get stuffed over with cut content, six month ++ game delays and being charged three times more for it, we get an exclusive game released the rest of the world will never have THE JOY of playing.. like.. um. Wacky Zoo GP! And everything is balanced out nicely!

Oh yeah US box art popped up today, it's pretty good. =)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...iL._SS500_.jpg

Elixir Dec 15, 2007 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malmer (Post 550129)
Not supporting.

So mod your consoles (or, get someone to do it for you), and import whichever version you want to support. It counts as a sale in whatever region you buy from, doesn't have to be your own, and you get to play the game you've been wanting.

If I was limited to releases in New Zealand only, I probably would've quit gaming by now. We're still waiting on Odin Sphere.

And hey, that's a pretty cool cover art.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 15, 2007 12:33 PM

In any case, he can go through with his one-man boycott while I and everyone else enjoys their awesome game.

Alright boxart, I guess. The black stuff in the background reminds me of the black spray! Dun dun!

Infernal Monkey Dec 18, 2007 02:03 AM

Haha oh wow, PAL box~

http://www.tothegame.com/res/game/72...t_uk_large.jpg

Blood = not good
Copping a feel = okay!

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Dec 18, 2007 03:18 AM

Europe has the best boxart of the three.

What.

Elixir Dec 18, 2007 03:33 AM

Yeah, that's what it's going to look like in Europe. Australia and New Zealand covers will look like this~

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9...uklargeal8.jpg

Malmer Dec 18, 2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 551861)
So mod your consoles (or, get someone to do it for you), and import whichever version you want to support. It counts as a sale in whatever region you buy from, doesn't have to be your own, and you get to play the game you've been wanting.

If I was limited to releases in New Zealand only, I probably would've quit gaming by now. We're still waiting on Odin Sphere.

And hey, that's a pretty cool cover art.

Then I'd be spending an extra $60 getting it modded or buying a FreeLoader, for this game alone =/
But I might just do it, in a vast future, when the price of it comes down to that of a single game, or if there'll be more games worth buying.

Elixir Dec 18, 2007 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malmer (Post 553534)
Then I'd be spending an extra $60 getting it modded or buying a FreeLoader, for this game alone =/
But I might just do it, in a vast future, when the price of it comes down to that of a single game, or if there'll be more games worth buying.

You'd be spending $60 (I guess this is including installation, otherwise that price isn't worth it) for every Wii game ever. It cuts out the region barrier and lets you play US and JP games freely.

...but in this case, NMH doesn't work on PAL Wiis. Like I said. So uh.. just buy the PAL version or the US version (if it's usable on modded Wiis when it's released) instead?

Wall Feces Jan 4, 2008 10:43 PM

IGN: No More Heroes Ships Early

Fucking great news, the game is getting pushed up to January 22nd. Looks like there's an American box art too:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...iL._SS500_.jpg

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 4, 2008 10:54 PM

Fucking fantastic news! That means it's... two and a half weeks away.

Infernal posted the US boxart on the fifth page, though.

Infernal Monkey Jan 4, 2008 11:03 PM

I guess Ubisoft finally realizing launching it on the same day as Super Smash Bros. wasn't such a good idea afterall!

Wall Feces Jan 4, 2008 11:38 PM

Ahh... So he did. Well nuts to me then!

Dark Nation Jan 5, 2008 12:06 AM

Thanks for the news Sprout, now I know what I'll be getting come next-next paycheck :D

Lukage Jan 5, 2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 562471)
I guess Ubisoft finally realizing launching it on the same day as Super Smash Bros. wasn't such a good idea afterall!

Not so much for Ubisoft's European release, it seems.

Kimchi Jan 5, 2008 05:02 PM

Yay... but no preorder on EB games yet.

trackjacket Jan 5, 2008 05:23 PM

I didn't think Ubisoft would do it (as I previously noted in this thread), but they pushed it up. I can't wait to try this game.

Dark Nation Jan 5, 2008 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimchi (Post 562759)
Yay... but no preorder on EB games yet.

You must go to a bad EB Games. The one down the street from me has No More Heroes, Advanced Wars Days of Ruins, SSBBrawl, and other games for preorder (Along with expected arrival dates).

Lukage Jan 5, 2008 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimchi (Post 562759)
Yay... but no preorder on EB games yet.

Uhh, yes, you can preorder it. The sales associates just must be idiots.

Dr. Uzuki Jan 5, 2008 07:18 PM

From the choice of words, on instead of at, I assume Kimchi's speaking of the website. Although he'd be mistaken on that as well, they only haven't changed the date to reflect the earlier release.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 5, 2008 08:32 PM

US site launched, in case anyone was interested. From what I can tell, it just has that one video.

Game info page on Ubisoft website

Rockgamer Jan 5, 2008 09:12 PM

Damn, I really want to play this game. I can honestly say this is the first game that has made me seriously consider buying a Wii (as opposed to being a game I would buy if I had one). Unfortunately I'm still really backed up when it comes to games, and combine that with my lack of money and lack of time once school starts soon, and now really isn't the ideal time for me to be getting a new game, let alone a new console. This game will definitely be on my shortlist of games to get once I finally do get a Wii, though.

Kimchi Jan 6, 2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 562815)
Uhh, yes, you can preorder it. The sales associates just must be idiots.

Uh, I hate EB games, the workers must be idiots. I called up different (EB) store they said yes.

RABicle Apr 3, 2008 12:57 AM

This game is one of the most fistworthy video games in years. It is constantly off the hook and also out of control.

Infernal Monkey Apr 3, 2008 03:06 AM

My progress in this game ended in the first five minutes when it wanted me to flick both controllers at once in two different directions to do a throw or something. I think my wrist would pop off if I tried that! Here, have some scans from the PAL instruction manual!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13.../bort/nmh1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13.../bort/nmh2.jpg

Manny Biggz Apr 3, 2008 03:57 AM

Picked this up about a month ago and pretty much dedicated my gaming time to it. I can only hope they follow this up and fix some of the issues (less pointless grinding for money). Anyone else around here got it/beat it?

aesop Apr 3, 2008 05:55 AM

I finished it a week or so ago, and I enjoyed it. The presentation and humor was really great. I didn't feel the need to go back to it though. The boss fights were so memorable that I felt like once was enough, but they were pretty tremendous fights. It felt a bit like Shadow of the Colossus in that sense.

I'd have been happy with 15 or 20 boss fights, rather than the chores in between ranked battles. The jobs and killing missions were ok, but they slowed the game down a bit too much for me.

I thought Travis was a very cool character - the most memorable/likable new character since playing as Raz in Psychonauts.

Manny Biggz Apr 3, 2008 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aesop (Post 591128)
I finished it a week or so ago, and I enjoyed it. The presentation and humor was really great. I didn't feel the need to go back to it though. The boss fights were so memorable that I felt like once was enough, but they were pretty tremendous fights. It felt a bit like Shadow of the Colossus in that sense.

I'd have been happy with 15 or 20 boss fights, rather than the chores in between ranked battles. The jobs and killing missions were ok, but they slowed the game down a bit too much for me.

I thought Travis was a very cool character - the most memorable/likable new character since playing as Raz in Psychonauts.

Pretty much my same thoughts right there. I remember someone saying "SUDA51 is the Quentin Tarantino of video games". Can't really argue with that. The whole cast of this game is amazing. There wasn't one character I disliked. My personal favorites being:

Spoiler:
Destroyman, Speed Buster, and Bad Girl (although I don't have that freakish obsession with her like a lot of the nut cases on the net). Shinobu would be my least favorite, but I still enjoyed her. I found her to be the hardest boss since I couldn't find a way to use the surprise slide on her.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Apr 6, 2008 05:20 PM

Is this game really as ugly as it looks in the adverts? It looks like a PS1 game! I know graphics aren't everything but when something looks as bad as this, the casual gamer like me who buys things on the basis of tv ads ain't even going to bother looking for further info online.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Apr 6, 2008 05:40 PM

It's not bad, but it's certainly nowhere near the best out there. You forgive some of the shortcomings graphically because of the stylistic choices.

Traumatized Rat Apr 7, 2008 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 592350)
Is this game really as ugly as it looks in the adverts? It looks like a PS1 game! I know graphics aren't everything but when something looks as bad as this, the casual gamer like me who buys things on the basis of tv ads ain't even going to bother looking for further info online.

So ya, seeing as the Wii is essentially an overclocked Gamecube, I figured there was no way the graphics for No More Heroes looked anything like a PS1 game. I decided to scour the internet in search for a screenshot of some generic PS1 title to compare with the Wii shots. I managed to find a fairly representative screen of Spyro, and a screen of No More Heroes with a resolution of 640 x 480 which is pretty standard for Wii. I added a few other screens in simply as filler and additional comparison. This was the result.

Playstation One
Spyro
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...dRat/spyro.jpg

Gran Turismo
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...screensrp0.jpg

Wii
No More Heroes
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...dRat/large.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...4053907346.jpg

Unsatisfied with the lack of quality from the Wii screenshot, I found something from the PS2 to compare it to just for the sake of reference.

PS2
Jak and Daxter
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...92665_full.jpg

Here is a comparison to a good looking Wii game. This is Mario Galaxy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...1408041905.jpg
It is sad to say, but I really don't see a substantial difference between Spyro and No More Heroes myself. Sure the No More Heroes screen has more colour and more objects in it, but it looks grainy and Jagged. I think the Jack and Daxter screen shot seriously looks better than all the screens above it and the Mario Galaxy stands a head taller than even these. I do know that to see the graphics in motion says a lot, but judging from the screencaps alone, there is definitely a problem here.

map car man words telling me to do things Apr 7, 2008 03:33 AM

Admittedly NMH doesn't look that good even in decent quality screenshots. The environments are low ps2 quality at best, but I love the main character models, especially the way hair is done. To see the game moving on your own TV (CRT at least) is a new experience.

Also keep in mind that's a fairly hi-res still of Spyro, no PS1 game ever looked that good on a regular TV because of the lower resolution.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Apr 7, 2008 05:11 AM

I think it's the jagged edges that ruin NMH. It looks like there's clipping between polys where there probably isn't. It's a similar graphical style to SMT:Nocturne but that looks more polished:

http://dailyscreenshots.de/screensho...ne/ps2-1365491

It's probably because there's far less on screen or something, I dunno.

PS1 games-wise, I was thinking of Tekken 3 or something:

http://journal.media-culture.org.au/0010/tekken3.jpg

Ridge Racer 4 maybe:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7...3798192tg5.jpg

aesop Apr 7, 2008 05:23 AM

The graphics reminded me a little of GTA on PS2. But the weakness in the graphics are strongly countered by the voice acting, the humour and motion capture. (I’m guessing they both used motion capture, but hell if I know really.)

But yeah, it does look a bit crud for a Wii game. Ridge Racer 4 actually looks better in that shot. =o

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Apr 7, 2008 10:15 PM

I wouldn't say it's as bad as GTA 3-- those games had a serious problem with joining limbs to a person's torso. At least the people in No More Heroes look like full human beings.

Anyway, we forgive the game's graphical shortcoming's because of the great character designs and the fact that Travis Touchdown is the best new protagonist in a video game in the past five years.

Traumatized Rat Apr 9, 2008 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 592585)
I think it's the jagged edges that ruin NMH. It looks like there's clipping between polys where there probably isn't. It's a similar graphical style to SMT:Nocturne but that looks more polished:

http://dailyscreenshots.de/screensho...ne/ps2-1365491

It's probably because there's far less on screen or something, I dunno.

PS1 games-wise, I was thinking of Tekken 3 or something:

http://journal.media-culture.org.au/0010/tekken3.jpg

Ridge Racer 4 maybe:

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/7...3798192tg5.jpg

But Myst 3 looks better than all those games. I think one really has to consider the technical demand of different graphical feats. In the case of Tekken, the background is just a still backdrop and most of the processing power is devoted to the character models and game physics. For that reason, it really isn't a direct comparison to something like No More Heroes, where the entire background is animated in full 3D.


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