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janus zeal Jul 19, 2006 03:52 AM

As if myspace wasnt bad enough...
 
"Wal-Mart Tries to Be MySpace. Seriously"
http://slashdot.org/articles/06/07/19/049259.shtml
http://adage.com/article?article_id=110520

Im wondering, most of my friends hate myspace, what do people here think about it? and what do you all think about wal-mart's "the hub"? wtf

just more crap to fill the tubes and make me get slower internets

Interrobang Jul 19, 2006 04:22 AM

They're trying to appeal to a demographic to make money. I'm not going to fault them for that.

Are you actually dumb enough to think this slows down your Internet speed, though?

Dalkaen Jul 19, 2006 04:53 AM

The internets is full of tubes!

A Wal-Mart MySpace-esque site seems as if it might be among the most horrible things of all time.

janus zeal Jul 19, 2006 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interrobang
Are you actually dumb enough to think this slows down your Internet speed, though?

LMAO! im going to chose not to be offended by that. im guessing you havent heard about this: http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=1512499

Xexxhoshi Jul 19, 2006 07:19 AM

Walmart + myspace = D:

XtremeDJW Jul 19, 2006 07:55 AM

MySpace and Wikipedia are the best things that have happened to the internet in a long time.

Krelian Jul 19, 2006 08:01 AM

Don't worry, at least Deviantart hasn't become myspace yet.

Well, actually, it's pretty fucking close right now.

Nahual Jul 19, 2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeDJW
MySpace and Wikipedia are the best

Wikipedia is awesome.
I don't care much for myspace, but I have friends who don't use email, so I message them through myspace.

But I'm not on it everyday. Unless I check my email and it says so and so left you a message.

Taterdemalion Jul 19, 2006 09:09 AM

It really doesn't matter. I don't think there'll ever be a mass exodus of people to this new WalSpace. It seems pretty shitty anyway. It'll probably just wither and die next week.

Chaotic Jul 19, 2006 09:35 AM

Wikipedia is a good thing. MySpace isn't.

MySpace is just a sad cry for those who can't get a date in real life, so at least there you're able to photoshop an image enough to make you hot, when in reality, you're probably the fattest person in the world.

Sad really.

What's even sadder is all my friends compete to have more friends and comments than their friends... Which I find really pointless... Also, people who can't do HTML for shit. Making their page load slowly as hell... It's not making your MySpace look good at all. What are you thinking?

Arkhangelsk Jul 19, 2006 09:43 AM

It makes me sad that a lot of the things to do with this little project are based in Austin or in some way related to Texas. :(

XtremeDJW Jul 19, 2006 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaotic
MySpace is just a sad cry for those who can't get a date in real life, so at least there you're able to photoshop an image enough to make you hot, when in reality, you're probably the fattest person in the world.

Hands up, you sussed us all, well done my son!

That statement is bollocks. I'm sure for one that I don't use MySpace for dating, and I'm also sure I don't have a single photoshopped picture (apart from a BMX trick sequence pic).

Arkhangelsk Jul 19, 2006 11:21 AM

Yeah, I mostly use MySpace for keeping in touch with old high school and community college friends. Of course, I've run into a fair share of people who friend me that I never talked to in high school, much less now, but oh well.

The majority of my 'friends' are bands. A lot of my favorite Norwegian groups have MySpaces, so it's convenient. Not to mention they send out special offers through the bulletins.

I will agree with the statement about HTML, though. 95% of the accounts on there are simply godawful conglomerations of YouTube vids, obnoxious glittery graphics and poorly chosen background images. OH and strikeout text. Can somebody kill it?

Aardark Jul 19, 2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeDJW
Hands up, you sussed us all, well done my son!

That statement is bollocks.

I agree. Myspace is, from what I understand, a not very well-coded site, to put it mildly, but to generalize its users like that is simply ridiculous. They can't use HTML for shit, yet are such Photoshop experts that they can make themselves look hot, when in reality they are fat and ugly, etc.? I dunno.

Summonmaster Jul 19, 2006 12:00 PM

I got addicted with listing stuff on myspace and trying to figure how I could have those sticky backgrounds as well as my favourite non-mainstream music playing, but I just got bored of it and stopped going to it all together.

Walmart Space is pretty corny solely because it's WalMart!
"Hey guys, I'll catch up with you on WalMart space, later."
That makes me shake my head in shame and confusion.

The question in the article "Are these real kids?" could not fit any better.

Piano Guy Jul 19, 2006 12:07 PM

Yeah, Myspace isn't just for dating. I use it to remain in contact with friends I've known my whole life, and people I meet in general! I will say that it's not a very good dating service (of course in my opinion, internet dating just doesn't work as well as dating someone you actually MET in person anyway). As for profiles, if you know where to look, there are some pretty good layout sites that will get you a pretty cool profile. Add music to it, and you have an awesome looking page! I have a great Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children themed profile, complete with music and everything (check it out in my signature)!

And a Wal-Mart myspace??? That's actually kind of funny... First they have shitty Wal-Mart internet, and now THIS??? What's next, Wal-Mart Cable TV? They need to realize that this is going nowhere, so they need to stop wasting whatever money they are spending on this and get some games that are actually worth buying (I don't know about your local Wal-Mart, but mine is completely OUT of good games, and they have been for a while!)!!! I shudder at the thought of anyone actually joining this pathetic attmept...

Acro-nym Jul 19, 2006 01:18 PM

MySpace is just an outcry for "Ooh, look at me! I exist! I can pretty webpages and take cool pictures, and I listen to cool music and watch cool movies!" It's a place for someone to tell or show anything and everything to total strangers, quite possibly in an attempt to stop them from being strangers. Some people use this opportunity to make themselves appear better than they are, again to total strangers. Some try to introduce blood, sex, and alcohol into the lives of the immature teenagers roaming the Web. But, there is the minority of people who actually use it for a small amount of good. They use it to tell their friends things important stuff happening. (I thought this is what blogs and journals were for...)

When you think about it Wal-Mart was already like MySpace. They both have two capital letters in their names. They're easy to use. They're fairly straightforward about what can be achieved there. They both look the other way when it come to some shady business. In Wal-Mart you can find movies and music. On MySpace you can find some as well. MySpace is free. Wal-Mart is pretty close to free, unless you want one item (or multiple items adding up to) under twenty dollars, then it's totally free. Wal-Mart has countless customers. MySpace has countless users and viewers. Wal-Mart offers movie previews in the electronics section (assuming your watching the right TV). Some movies and television shows have starting using MySpace to post information about the production.

I'm sure there's more, but that's all I can think of right now.

Whew! I need to take a break...

electric_eye Jul 19, 2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acro-nym
MySpace is just an outcry for "Ooh, look at me! I exist! I can pretty webpages and take cool pictures, and I listen to cool music and watch cool movies!" It's a place for someone to tell or show anything and everything to total strangers, quite possibly in an attempt to stop them from being strangers. Some people use this opportunity to make themselves appear better than they are, again to total strangers. Some try to introduce blood, sex, and alcohol into the lives of the immature teenagers roaming the Web. But, there is the minority of people who actually use it for a small amount of good. They use it to tell their friends things important stuff happening. (I thought this is what blogs and journals were for...)

That's how I feel about it as well. I hate to browse through MySpace I can't stand having the music loading up and there are some rather annoying pop-up ads there as well.

Soluzar Jul 19, 2006 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym
Wal-Mart is pretty close to free, unless you want one item (or multiple items adding up to) under twenty dollars, then it's totally free.

Uh... what?

Gechmir Jul 19, 2006 03:01 PM

I prefer Facebook =( Much more tame and clean... Myspace pages always make my eyes bleed. Dark/Black background, black text, etc. I saw folks with, like, 5,000 friends or some crazy shit like that. How the fuck can you have that many. Why do you have that many? Why do you exist?

Such a horrible site. I've yet to even visit the main page. I've been tricked into links to folks' profiles before, I'm afraid...

photto Jul 24, 2006 12:49 AM

Myspace isn't too bad as long as you put up just three of four pictures of yourself that you'll never exchange for newer ones, hide your comments and friends so that myspace addicts can't see who you're in cahoots with AND make your profile private so that random people can't add you. Then you're not really advertising yourself.

Outlaw Jul 24, 2006 01:15 AM

I stay away from myspace. Here in Washington state there has been a bunch of tempted or actual rapes/aubductions here. I guess I stay away from it because I'm cautious of my safety. Another reason could be the fact that it's overrated. Heck, my mom has a myspace account! I've seen what's there and it just doesn't apeal to me. But then again, that's just me....

But this Wal-mart thing is quite interesting. Wal-mart is truely trying to take over the world in everything. I don't think this will fly though, like many others said, I give it a week, a year at the most. For some reason I can't stop thinking of that one South Park episode right now.

WolfDemon Jul 24, 2006 02:24 AM

I can't stand MySpace. I like to call it GaySpace. But I have an account there because my cousin, a few of my friends, and some family members in south Florida have one, and I use it to keep in touch with them.

Living Legend Jul 24, 2006 03:18 AM

I use myspace all the time, many of my friends use it that live here. Not only is it a good way to keep in touch with people, you can easily show off your favorite bands and pretty much advertise them to whoever has interest in your page to get others into your style also. I don't see why so many people completely HATE myspace, but to each there own.

Hello_Kitty Jul 24, 2006 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living Legend
I use myspace all the time, many of my friends use it that live here. Not only is it a good way to keep in touch with people, you can easily show off your favorite bands and pretty much advertise them to whoever has interest in your page to get others into your style also. I don't see why so many people completely HATE myspace, but to each there own.

it's all been said in this thread : some stupid people, shitty layout, music loading automatically, slow, mostly uninteresting content

myspace could be so much better, but i think the admins are reluctant to update their site... you don't change a website that is the most visited in the US

electric_eye Jul 24, 2006 03:52 AM

There are too many types there who are too willing to add anyone to their friends list. I would also hate for someone to suck up to me and post a comment about my great taste in music.

Bernard Black Jul 24, 2006 04:13 AM

I think it's good because I've found so many new bands that are fantastic on there; it's introduced me to some that I would never have found any other way. It also makes me feel better that I have a theoretical webpage of my own as I know nothing about coding being the computer eejit that I am:(

Apart from that myspace is simply a place for girls with a lot of nerve to hit on guys who are already taken :mad:. I've never actually seen the dating side of it; most of the people I know on there have boyfriends or girlfriends in their friends lists but they met outside of myspace. Is it really like that?

XtremeDJW Jul 24, 2006 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by electric_eye
There are too many types there who are too willing to add anyone to their friends list. I would also hate for someone to suck up to me and post a comment about my great taste in music.

Erm, perhaps you shuold try ignoring those people then. Just like I do.

Vkamicht Jul 24, 2006 06:15 AM

Heh, since this turned into a MySpace discussion...

I used to be 100% against it as well... and only created a page because "everyone else did". Then... I changed my page colors away from the standard to fit my liking a little more... and staying in contact with some friends from high school that I had no other way of talking to is nice. It's not as bad as people make it out to be; I turn off auto-play music, only keep friends I can stand, and I don't visit their pages if they have all the flashy annoying shit. What's the problem?

I can't really hate it, as it's the sole reason I'm currently in a relationship with an amazing guy. Yes, I was desperate enough to actively browse their users looking for someone, and I did find someone, and we met and hit it off. Maybe I just got lucky though.

Eleo Jul 24, 2006 11:34 AM

I signed up for one of these Wal-Mart accounts but they won't let me actually edit any of my pages. Maybe because I'm 20. (In that case, why did they even let me sign up?)

electric_eye Jul 24, 2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeDJW
Erm, perhaps you shuold try ignoring those people then. Just like I do.

I haven't signed up yet. :juggler:

photto Jul 24, 2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernard Black

Apart from that myspace is simply a place for girls with a lot of nerve to hit on guys who are already taken :mad:. I've never actually seen the dating side of it; most of the people I know on there have boyfriends or girlfriends in their friends lists but they met outside of myspace. Is it really like that?

I've met a few girls off myspace and I say it works if you just want to have a fling with someone, but as far as relationships go, no luck yet. The one girl I did date was only around for a week before I found out she was on anti-depressants and was suicidal. She did offer me her body though.;)

Acro-nym Jul 24, 2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soluzar
Uh... what?

It's a Jay Leno joke about how recently Wal-Mart announced it wouldn't prosecute the shoplifting of items under twenty dollars, and, as such, has basically made its stuff free.

Lizardcommando Jul 24, 2006 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acro-nym
MySpace is just an outcry for "Ooh, look at me! I exist! I can pretty webpages and take cool pictures, and I listen to cool music and watch cool movies!" It's a place for someone to tell or show anything and everything to total strangers, quite possibly in an attempt to stop them from being strangers. Some people use this opportunity to make themselves appear better than they are, again to total strangers. Some try to introduce blood, sex, and alcohol into the lives of the immature teenagers roaming the Web. But, there is the minority of people who actually use it for a small amount of good. They use it to tell their friends things important stuff happening. (I thought this is what blogs and journals were for...)

That's how I feel about MySpace too. Flashy, shitty backgrounds. Loud annoying music, YouTube videos thrown around which makes these pages take forever to load. Ugh, what an ugly piece of shit place... Plus, it seems most people don't really understand the concept of grammar at MySpace.

I won't be signing up for MySpace or any of its reincarnations anytime soon.

Chaotic Jul 25, 2006 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acro-nym
It's a Jay Leno joke about how recently Wal-Mart announced it wouldn't prosecute the shoplifting of items under twenty dollars, and, as such, has basically made its stuff free.

Word. That's all I have to say.

And i'm well aware that MySpace isn't just a dating site. But I just base my outlook on it to what I hear on the news. People use MySpace to get close to people, and then they actually bother to meet that person in real life. When that happens, they're not who they appear to be! They're not the beautiful man with the chizzled body and the washboard abs, but more like an obese person who hasn't admitted he has an eating problem.

I have one myself, but I only use it to just let my friends find me on their own. Unless you're that close to me, I'll find you myself. But i'm not one of those people who will accept a person based on common interests. I have to know you before I accept you. I don't wanna be raped.

But what annoys me even more, as mentioned earlier, are people pages that have really bad HTML coloring, too many pictures, sparkly text. I suppose they haven't heard of the line, "Less is more."

Not everyone's computer runs on DSL or Cable. I really have to stop ranting like this.

Cadenza Jul 26, 2006 04:55 PM

I sort of object to the title of this thread.

For what reason is myspace bad?

SampMan87 Jul 27, 2006 02:04 AM

When it gets right down to it, I honestly don't believe that Myspace is "bad" persay.

The simplest explanation of myspace is, remember back in the day when it was so hip to have your own web page that talked about your interests and stuff? Back when AOL was essentially the internet, and they offered you like, 100 MB of web hosting space to create said webpage about one's self? If I remember right, my dad STILL maintains a page that has details and photos from our most recent family vacations.

Myspace is that. For free. Made simple. Basically it's one's very own web page. Now, on the concept of how people spend HOURS a day on Myspace, that I can admit is bad. Myspace is the sort of thing you set up and leave. I honestly only return maybe once a week to write in my blog and/or check the blogs of my friends and messages. I did spend a good week when I first got the account setting it up perfectly to my liking, complete with an image background, music, a set of "pics" and a list of my closests friends, which I will say is a few more than the typical eight.

Everyone is all in an uproar about how myspace is just the next new fad, and they are right, but that doesn't necesarily mean anything bad. Tomagachis, Yo-yos, and Pogs never hurt anyone.

Now onto the topic of this new Wal-mart style Myspace. It really is more of a kiddie myspace. I think myspace doesn't allow (honest) users younger than 16, and the demographic Wal-mart is going for falls between like, 10 and 15 or something. It's kind of like an extension of the myspace network, except it's owned by a huge, evil corporation, instead of a huge, evil news network. But really, is it not reasonable to consider that advertising really HAS reached an all time low? I don't know much about it, but I do recall hearing that somebody was developing software to be installed on DVRs and DBSs that prevent channel changing functions during commercials, and similar things. Not to mention the presence of telemarketers for the passed couple decades.

People who want money really will look for anyway to get it. For corporations like Wal-Mart, aside from squashing the miniscule competition, that means getting their name out. To EVERYONE. And with a fad like myspace, what better way to advertise than draw people in with their OWN version of myspace? Especially with the younger generation looking to "fit in" and "be cool".

Put Balls Jul 27, 2006 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SampMan87
Everyone is all in an uproar about how myspace is just the next new fad, and they are right, but that doesn't necesarily mean anything bad. Tomagachis, Yo-yos, and Pogs never hurt anyone.

But then again, Tamagochis, Yo-yos and Pogs never lure little girls out on a blind date and rape/kidnap them. The only downside of myspace is the ability to be a 15-yo boy when you're really a 40-yo pedophile. But luckily that's pretty rare even on myspace.

That's about the only negative side I can really say about myspace; that it's free and anonymous.

I've benefitted a few times from myspace, when I find that some very underground artists have set up their band-relative myspace page with music download and other information about the band. A perfect place to download or listen to music you'd otherwise have to buy the record for first. Checking it out before (if ever) buying is cool.

Ruth Loose Jul 27, 2006 09:19 PM

Does anyone else actually attempt to blog or blogged in the past? I find that LiveJournal is so much better for this specific cause.

ArrowHead Jul 27, 2006 10:12 PM

I have an LJ. It's what blogging should be: Simple, clean and functional.

I also have a Myspace. It's good for picking up fifteen year old girls.

electric_eye Jul 28, 2006 07:16 AM

Well LJ is a dedicated blog. From what I've seen on myspace each blog entry is by a seperate link, which makes it unattractive.


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