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Mobius One Jun 29, 2006 03:13 PM

Considering buying Xbox 1
 
I've finally decided to buy an Xbox...maybe. Used boxes are down to $100. A tad expensive for my tastes, but I might buy one if I can find more games that tickle my fancy. I've never wanted to buy a whole system for a single franchise before, but after some recent Halo playings I really want to get it. So here's what you do: other than Halo, suggest some top-notch games I would be interested in. I need more than just Halo (and HL2 and Doom since I don't have a PC) to turn me to the dark side. I'm especially disuaded from buying one because of Xbox's seemingly crappy library of games. I browsed Gamestop today to see if anything looked interesting, and nothing did. I need your help finding the good games!

I'm not interested in RPG's or sports games. Give me action, strategy, shooters, and MAYBE platformers if they're really good. I want only your highest recommendations, I don't have money to spend on worthless stuff. PC to Xbox ports are acceptable, but don't suggest any multi-platform games that I've already played on PS2. (also, I've already beaten Fable. Games like Fable are alright, but it was too short to justify the cost. Doesn't Xbox have more worthwhile games?)

Grundlefield Earth Jun 29, 2006 03:57 PM

I don't know I heard Splinter Cell series, Panzer Dragoon Orta, JSRF, Ninja Gaiden, Voodoo Vince, Psychonauts, Shenmue II, Gunvalkyrie, and Crimson Skies were excellent. I don't know though thats just me.

0_o

Tube Jun 29, 2006 05:29 PM

BZ's post + Devo's post + House of the Dead 3, Dead or Alive series, Beyond Good and Evil, Fuzion Frenzy, GTA Vice City, Battlefront 2, H A L O

JasonTerminator Jun 29, 2006 05:42 PM

Breakdown and Jade Empire are quite awesome as well. Really great games.

I really, really recommend the KOTOR games though. Despite their RPG status, they really are the best Xbox games around.

WolfDemon Jun 29, 2006 07:30 PM

Counter-Strike is good, since you don't have a PC, but it's worthless without Xbox Live. Phantasy Star Online is good too. Yes, it's an RPG, but if feels more like an action game than anything else. The only bad thing about it is the ridiculous Hunter's License. But then, Phantasy Star Universe is coming out pretty soon, so it'll probably be obscelete by then.

Mobius One Jun 30, 2006 12:23 AM

How does Counter-strike Xbox compare to the PC version? I love the PC version from the little I've played of it. Plus it's like the only Xbox game with custom soundtrack. I will be getting LIVE for Halo 2 if I buy an Xbox.

I've always heard good things about PSO. Maybe it's time I try a MMORPG.



Other games:

-Splinter Cell series: Already beaten on PS2. I will be getting Chaos Theory again for it's god damn stupid ass superior online mode. Fucking Ubisoft.:aargh:


-Panzer Dragoon Orta: From what I've read this game was highly anticipated, but a let down. Maybe I read wrong?:confused:


-JSRF: Sorry, I beat Tony Hawk 2 ages ago.:(


-Ninja Gaiden: I know this game is hard as hell, but from what I've seen this game does pique my interest. I almost forgot about it, good job guys!:superhappy: :ninja:


-Voodoo Vince: Never heard of it. Describe please. Yes, I am lazy. No, I've never heard of Google. Is that an Xbox game too?:confused:


-Psychonauts: This is multi-platform. I've heard good things about it and I intend to play it eventually, but I'll buy it for whichever system sells it for cheaper. Unless there's a huge difference between the PS2 and Xbox versions (other than the .002% better grafix).:eyebrow:


-Shenmue II: Never played a Shenmue game before. I don't know if I'm really interested in this series. Why are these games so loved?:confused:


-Gunvalkyrie: I'll look into it.:)


-Crimson Skies: Sorry, no flight game can ever hope to compete with Ace Combat (looks at username). But I guess I can't play Ace Combat every second of my life, so I'll check it out.:eyebrow:


-House of the Dead 3: Um...RESIDENT EVIL 4. Nope.:(


-Dead or Alive series: BOOBIES!:naughty:


-Beyond Good and Evil: I bought this for $20 for PS2 a year ago and haven't even played it yet. I also have the unrelated book which I have yet to read.:doh:


-Fuzion Frenzy: Yarg. I remember hating the demo for this thing.:(


-GTA Vice City: PS2 ages ago.:(


-Battlefront 2: PS2.:(




Well, I'm almost convinced to buy an Xbox. Any other games you guys are forgetting? How's that thar Steel Battalion? I like mech games somewhat (Woot ZOE!), but most of them are too slow for me (::Looks at Armored Core's slow turning:: ). I'm sure as hell not buying a $500 controller for it, is it any good without it? What about essential Xbox accesories, will I need any? Are there any other words of advice from you Xbox owners?

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jun 30, 2006 01:32 AM

Since you obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to Steel Battalion, I'll fill you in.

No, it's NOT like Zone of the Enders. It's not some anime/gundam style horseshit. It's a SIM. You're piloting a walking tank that's the size of a building. No, it doesn't have a sword, and no, it can't fly, and no, it doesn't have wings. It "turns slow" because that's what mechs in most mech games do. And it's what makes sense.

If you can't handle Armoured Core's pacing, you will HATE SB. Flat out.

That said, SB is fantastic if you like that sort of thing, and I was going to recommend it until you said that "turning too slow" is a turnoff.

And you can't play it without the controller.

You fail for comparing Jet Set to Tony Hawk though, just sayin'. And Psychonauts is probably slightly easier to find on the Xbox. And lastly, Orta is fucking awesome. Whoever told you it wasn't simply has no brain or taste. It's that simple.

And sicne you're obviously just looking at the fucking covers when you're thinking about games here, I'm going to ask where the ding dong fuck you get away with comparing RE4 to House of the Dead 3.

Edit:

Also no one has mentioned RALLISPORT CHALLENGE 2.

Something is wrong with you guys.

Edit edit:

Or Forza or PGR2.

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[01:36] <+Xijar> "halo? sorry I beat goldeneye 007 ten years ago"
[01:36] <+Xijar> dumbass

Infernal Monkey Jun 30, 2006 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PICARDGONK

You fail for comparing Jet Set to Tony Hawk though, just sayin'.

Indeed. That's like comparing House of the Dead 3 with Resident Evi-oh.

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Originally Posted by Mobius One
-Voodoo Vince: Never heard of it. Describe please. Yes, I am lazy. No, I've never heard of Google. Is that an Xbox game too?

No, it's a Game Gear game, sry! And holy crap not every single game with a bloody plane in it is an Ace Combat clone. Crimson Skies is one of the coolest games on the system.

Mobius One Jun 30, 2006 01:51 AM

When I think House of the Dead I think zombies. When I think zombies, I think Resident Evil. Since RE4 is one very kick ass game, well, that's how I drew that conclusion. Having never played House of the Dead, I may have been a bit pre-emptive. And yes, I have no clue about Xbox games which is why I made this thread.


I have no problem with sims, but only when I in the mood for them. Ususally I'm in the mood for faster-paced games like ZOE or Devil May Cry. I've always had a problem with some mech franchises because of how impracticle they make mechs in a futuristic world. Why would I have a need to kill things with a slow moving, slow turning mech when there are fighter jets and missiles that make it nothing more than target practice? Maybe that's why I've always prefered flight sims over mech games.


Thank you for reminding me about Rallisport Challenge. I remember now that my friend highly recommended it to me when he rented an Xbox, and we have the same taste in games and are both avid Gran Turismo fans. I might hold off on Forza though, I've played quite a bit of it in the stores and I have no need for another The Driving Simulator.


Also, as much as I love 007 Goldeneye, it has no online mode.



Edit: What I meant about Tony Hawk 2 was that it was the last good skating game I enjoyed. The novelty of skating around in a game has completely wore off on me. As far as I know JSRF is about skating around and spray painting stuff. Sorry, not for me.

Vestin Jun 30, 2006 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonTerminator
Breakdown and Jade Empire are quite awesome as well. Really great games.

I really, really recommend the KOTOR games though. Despite their RPG status, they really are the best Xbox games around.

I'll definitely second that. You can play them bother over and over, and it never stops being fun. As a matter of fact, I found myself not even wanting to stop.

Star Wars: Battlefront II is a really good game as well. At least I thought so. I enjoyed the dog-fights and leveling up, which isn't common for a shooting game.

Though not many people would recommend it, I would also buy Phantasy Star Online. Then again, you didn't want an RPG, and two out of the three things I'm listing here are just that. Lol.

scotty Jun 30, 2006 04:40 AM

Conkers Live and Reloaded was pretty good, it's a port of Conkers Bad Furday for N64 with better graphics and an OK online multiplayer
Unreal Championship 2 was a decent game too, and it's cheap. They introduced melee weapons to the franchise in this game.
there's always Soul Calibur 2 If you don't own for PS2, or havn't played it to death. The Xbox version includes Spawn

Kilroy Jun 30, 2006 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scotty
Conkers Live and Reloaded was pretty good, it's a port of Conkers Bad Furday for N64 with better graphics and an OK online multiplayer

Yeah, but as far as I know, they blocked out all the fun stuff... But the brit voice acting alone is brilliant.

Mobius One Jun 30, 2006 03:22 PM

Hey, they don't sell subscription cards for Xbox anymore! Why didn't anyone tell me! Where can I get a subscription code?

Soluzar Jun 30, 2006 03:31 PM

I wouldn't know about your XBOX Live! question, since I never used it, but if you do get an XBOX1 and don't take it online, then you should softmod it. Softmodded XBOX is teh awesome.

ieatjackets Jun 30, 2006 06:54 PM

I like how OP is such a prick even though people are trying to help him pick out games and otherwise give him advice. Jeez.

If your holiness likes mech games, check out MechAssault 1 & 2, they're pretty solid games and they play nicely online.

As far as other games of interest on the system, check out The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, Freedom Fighters, Far Cry Instincts, both of the Brothers in Arms (the PS2 versions are shit), Top Spin (if you like tennis), Star Wars: Republic Commando, Project Gotham Racing 2, and all the other great games that people suggested, my top picks including KOTOR 1 & 2, and Jade Empire.

And please, next time, when people are giving you advice and trying to help you out, don't dismiss their advice with lame excuses and general laziness to do a bit of your own research. It's just rude.

Newbie1234 Jun 30, 2006 09:26 PM

The Xbox really doesn't have that many great exclusive titles other than the most obvious ones. It's just always the best when it comes to multiplatform titles.

If you are mainly into action the core list is just mainly:

Halo
Halo 2
Unreal Championship 2
Ninja Gaiden
Dead or Alive 3
Dead or Alive Ultimate
Chronicles of Riddick
Panzer Dragoon Orta

House of the Dead 3 is fun for like a day, but not much more.

Perhaps a couple of other games here and there. Unless you're planning to mod it, or can get one for really cheap, I'd recommend just saving your money.

nabhan Jun 30, 2006 09:38 PM

I don't own an Xbox, but I've heard good things about Phantom Dust. It's apparantly a Card RPG with realtime action. A friend at another forum used to be obsessed with it and clocked 100+ hours on Live.

JumboMaverick Jun 30, 2006 09:42 PM

If you can find them, I recommend Otogi and Otogi 2. The second one is especially hard to find, but you won't find any games out there that better blend action and RPG. Two true gems.

Magic Jul 1, 2006 12:19 AM

House of the Dead is an arcade game where you shoot zombies......a lot. Resident Evil is a survival horror game. These games are nothing alike.

Ninja Gaiden Black should last you for a couple weeks if you're tenacious and don't mind dying a lot (unless you're good, in which case you'll only die a little). This is probably the only good game on X-Box.

Mobius One Jul 1, 2006 12:23 AM

Okay, I bought one just before work today. Thanks alot for the game suggestions, Xbox has a few more worth while titles than I realized (I completely forgot Chonicles of Riddick was a good game). Unfortunately I can't figure out how to get on LIVE since no stores sell subscription cards anymore and Xbox.com/connect isn't any help either. If I can't get on LIVE then that really defeats half the purpose. Hopefully I can figure it out, otherwise I'll have to return it because I need the money for so many other things (broken iPod needs replaced, PSP, DS, new TV, not to mention saving up for the multi-billion dollar PS3).

Tube Jul 1, 2006 04:13 AM

If your dashboard doesn't already have the Xbox Live tab, just buy/rent/borrow any recently released game and it will automatically install an updated dash and you can just activate your account through there.

Mobius One Jul 9, 2006 07:09 AM

Well, I've been on LIVE for about a week now (I found one last subscription card at Target). Good stuff. I've only really played HALO 2 online, that alone has almost justified the cost. I currently have Halo 2, Doom 3, SC:Chaos Theory, and Crimson skies. I plan on getting HL2 and Ralisport Challenge 2 soon, maybe Ninja Gaiden as well (wasn't there another version of this that includes easy mode?). Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, I'll keep them in mind. Now I can start saving for PSP.


Gamertag: M0BIUS 0N3

Grundlefield Earth Jul 9, 2006 11:03 AM

Too bad nobody sane is purely on the original Xbox live right now. Missing out big time. But as long as you have fun I guess.

devilmaycry Jul 9, 2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mobius One
I've finally decided to buy an Xbox...maybe. Used boxes are down to $100.

WTF? I got my brand new Xbox for 94€, and a Advanced AV Kit (RGB SCART) for 25€.
Either you're bieng ripped or Xboxes are cheap around here.

Luxo Jul 9, 2006 01:28 PM

You like racing games? Need for Speed underground 1 and 2 and Project Gotham Racing are your best bets. Burnout 3 is awesome as well, but it has much more of an arcade feel. Try 'em out.

Chaotic Jul 10, 2006 01:21 AM

I don't own one myself, but my friend has a couple worthwhile titles I've played.

Phantom Dust is defenitely worth a look at. It's a good action game that got good reviews and got slapped with a budget price.

Even if you don't like the concept of JSRF, you might as well give it a try. With Sega GT 2002, it's only $3 used at any gaming store.

As jackets said on the other page, Freedom Fighters seems to fit the bill on your action/shooting games. At this point it should be $8-$12. Got a 9.2 (or 9.3) on Gamespot, so it must be pretty good. I haven't tried it myself though.

If you're looking for a quick fix on destruction and racing. Get Burnout Revenge or Burnout 3. Both were superb racing games. Burnout Legends dropped it's price at Gamestop and EB a little while ago, so you could probably pick up the game for about $20 or less.

I'm trying to reccomend some good budget games here. At least some that are worth your time.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jul 10, 2006 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Luxo
You like racing games? Need for Speed underground 1 and 2 and Project Gotham Racing are your best bets. Burnout 3 is awesome as well, but it has much more of an arcade feel. Try 'em out.

NFSU2 has way more car customisation than one but they completely broke the actual racing. It's not nearly as fun as the first one. Burnout 3 is an awesome game but not as good as Revenge and I'd question whether it was "More arcadey" than NFSU.

BZ, I'll have you know I'm still only on Xbox. :(

Grundlefield Earth Jul 10, 2006 03:03 AM

True, true Shin, but you have had it forever, and likely the only reason you don't have a 360 is because of the lack of monetary funds. Really he actually just wasted a 100 dollars because he will get a 360 eventually. Inevitable.

Tube Jul 10, 2006 03:22 AM

But if he spends $50 more he could get an X3 modchip and his wasted $100 will turn into a wisely invested $150.

Also, it appears I must have missed the 'Burnout Legends' release.

Mobius One Jul 10, 2006 03:22 AM

I won't be getting a 360 for quite some time. Maybe when it comes down to $100...

Mobius One Jul 10, 2006 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Devo
Are you retarded? Maybe in 20 years you could pick it up for $100, either that or never.

Well then I guess I'll start a thread entitled "Considering buying 360" in 20 years.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jul 10, 2006 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tube
Also, it appears I must have missed the 'Burnout Legends' release.

Your Xbox doesn't play PSP games?

devilmaycry Jul 10, 2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Devo
Are you retarded? Maybe in 20 years you could pick it up for $100, either that or never.

You're the retarded one, XBox 360 will hit the 100$ mark in about 2 years, 3 years at very max.
Never mind, I'm the retarded afterall but the Xbox 360 will eventually go down to 100$ and not in 20 years of course.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jul 10, 2006 03:48 PM

Hah, doubtful. It took a good 4 years for the regular Xbox to sink to any price near 100 bucks, and considering the 360 will not be pulling a gamecube in pricing strategy EVER, I doubt you're going to see them on the low end of the price sprectrum for a VERY long time.

I'd love to hear your reasoning behind why it'll be extremely cheap.

devilmaycry Jul 10, 2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
Hah, doubtful. It took a good 4 years for the regular Xbox to sink to any price near 100 bucks, and considering the 360 will not be pulling a gamecube in pricing strategy EVER, I doubt you're going to see them on the low end of the price sprectrum for a VERY long time.

I'd love to hear your reasoning behind why it'll be extremely cheap.

Nevermind, I thought the Xbox 1 lauch price was 450€ (so said a old magazine I had around) but it turns out it was 299€.
In that case I say the XBox 360 Core will take the same amount of time to drop onto the $100 line as the original Xbox did.
EDIT: You can also steal one, in that case the price suddenly drops to $0 X-D

Lizardcommando Jul 10, 2006 06:20 PM

Far Cry Instincts is pretty fun. The map editor will keep you busy for a while. Or instead of FCI, you can pick up that other Far Cry Instincts "expansion pack" (I don't remember the name of it, unfortunately. And no I'm not talking about FCI:Predator. It was another one.) which has even more cool shit you can do in the map editor.


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