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orion_mk3 Jun 26, 2006 06:09 PM

Song of the Week - WEEK 64 Voting/WEEK 65 Nominating
 
Week 64 Voting is open.
Week 65 Nominating is open.

Week 64 Voting
The rules for voting can be found here.

Tracks:
Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM
Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death")
Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track
Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!

Notes:
If you are a member at more than one of the forums which this event is being held at, please nominate and vote in only ONE of the forums. You may, however, comment in the threads at any of the other forums.
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FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM was originally in M4A format. This file has been used to make a LAME MP3 version for greater compatibility. The original M4A version is uploaded to the Extras directory for those demanding original encoding quality.


Week 65 Nominating
The Nominations Queue can be found here.
The rules for nominating can be found here.

Here are the links to the corresponding threads at the other forums:
- Soundtrack Central
- Chudah's Corner

TCK Jun 26, 2006 07:34 PM

Lime green?

Don't get fancy with ME!

Darkcomet72 Jun 26, 2006 08:18 PM

My next nomination is so awesome I decided to post it here instead of STC.

Album: Hotdog Storm (Game Rip)
Track: Stage 5
Composer: Fumito Tamayama, Shige Masco, Yoko
Year: 1996
Source: LOL
Cat a log Number: N/A
Awesomeness factor: 10/10
Additional notes 1: I ripped this myself. I'll upload.
Additional notes 2: This just might be the greatest song I ever nominated.

TCK Jun 26, 2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
My next nomination is so awesome I decided to post it here instead of STC.

Album: Hotdog Storm (Game Rip)
Track: Stage 5
Composer: Fumito Tamayama, Shige Masco, Yoko
Year: 1996
Source: LOL
Cat a log Number: N/A
Awesomeness factor: 10/10
Additional notes 1: I ripped this myself. I'll upload.
Additional notes 2: This just might be the greatest song I ever nominated.

I thought that was a given.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 26, 2006 09:30 PM

I'm still listening to this week's nominations. There are several that have warranted listening three or four times to determine which I like most.

In the meantime, I'm gonna toss up my next nomination:

Album: RAINBOWS Chris Huelsbeck Vol. 3
Track Title: Giana Sisters (Theme)
Track Number: 01
Artist: Chris Huelsbeck
Catalog Number: HCD-5
Year: 1994
Source: http://www.huelsbeck.com/work.html

KyleDunamis Jun 26, 2006 09:35 PM

Point Spread:

3 points: Suikoden
2 points: Tobal
1 point: Twinbee

Mini SotW time:
All from the Radiata Stories OST:

Struggle II
Hopping Sun
Devote for Nature
Artisan
Scarlet Wind
Paya-Paya ~ Instrumental Ver
Legendary Sword ~Loop Ver.

orion_mk3 Jun 26, 2006 11:39 PM

Might as well vote, since I made the damn thread after all.

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II") Piano and lush strings, and in a Falcom track? Anything's possible in the Special Box. While the melody's a bit mopey at times, the piano keeps the piece moving along at a nice clip. A little jazzy, a little classical, and a nice treat.

FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM Where's the kitchen sink? Everything else in the house was tapped as part of this track. The variety of percussive hits, as well as the way they fade in and out of each other, is interesting from a technical standpoint, but the first stirs of melody don't appear until halfway through. Add to that the grinding, repetitive nature of that melody, and you have a lot of unrealized potential.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death") I suppose my expectations were too high for this track, what with all the hubbub and ground-shaking events it set in motion. The melody itself is nice, but it's s t r e t c h e d out so much that it becomes lugubrious rather than simply mournful. If things had been tighter, I could see this as a melancholy masterpiece; as is, I'm just not feelin' it.

Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation Hard-edged techno-synth...with violins! My tolerance for this sort of thing varies; combining orchestral and electronic can be wonderful, or it can lead to disaster. Things wind up in the middle of the road here; the electronics are intrusive at times, while the strings threaten to drown them out at other times. When the synth predominates, the track is dark, but the strings alter that mood completely. Ultimately rather inconsistent for my taste.

Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track I was buying this track at first--whistling plus techno is something unusual, after all. Then the track changed styles completely, went from techno to funk, and threw in repetitive singing and voice samples. Ugh.

Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker Itchy Nipple games never interested me much, and their music always seemed rather limp, with poor instrument samples and mundane melody. None of that here; this track swings with energy to spare, and is nothing if not creative. There's an abrupt style change when the fiddle comes in--and when it leaves--though I liked things on balance.

Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM) Reminds me of something, though I can't for the life of me recall what. A nice melodic synth piece that's a bit predictable but still enjoyable.

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!! The OST Of A Thousand Composers. Figures that this track was written by the only one I'm not familiar with. It's a jaunty little thing, not serious at all, and quirky to a fault. Reminds me of "Face Like A Frog," actually.

The Point Spread
3 pts. - Falcom-In-The-Box
2 pts. - TOBY!!
1 pt. - Poppin' Twinzits

Thanatos Jun 27, 2006 04:41 AM

Phantom Brave - 2 points
I liked this song, quite.. happy, and granted some parts felt a lil' weird on the ears, but it was pretty nice.

Falcom - A Fast Flight To You - 2 points
Kinda slow, kinda soppy, but it was good enough.

Genso Suikoden - 1 points
Well, kinda generic to me, but it's good enough compared to the rest

Toridon!!! - 1 point
The rhythm was nice.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 27, 2006 07:24 AM

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II"): I expect this track will strike the fancy of many SotW listeners. It seems to run the gamut of cheerfulness and melancholy equally, pleasing both palates. I admit that it's not bad, although I definitely enjoy the uplifting parts a lot more. I do think that the violin comes on a little strong at times, however. Still, a good track.

FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM: This one is very unique, but that isn't quite enough here, for my tastes. The percussion track is interesting but it's way too fast. The sounds are intriguing but I feel that more could've been done at a slower tempo. At 8:47, it takes too long to really build into anything, and I'm not entirely certain that it ever does. The synth-groaning around 3:45 is pretty harsh on the ears.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death"): Ah, the requisite sad-sack entry. I know these tracks appeal to a lot of people but they've gotta be pretty special to pique my interest. 'Theme of Sadness' doesn't do anything wrong, per se; it's just entirely too forgettable in a vast ocean of despondent tracks.

Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation: This one has me scratching my head. It's weird and parts of it are actually enjoyable, but there are also some moments that leave me a little flat. The style changes are rather stark and I'm not crazy about how the entire mood flip-flops suddenly. It's a fair technique in music, but I feel like the execution was off. Nevertheless, the melodies contained within the string sections are nice and I've found myself liking this track more than several others this week.


Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track: Quirky, for sure. The whistle-synth is highly unusual but not ill-fitting. There's a nice atmosphere that reigns through a lot of it. And the bass synth line in the background is quite awesome in parts. But a major UGH for the vocal interjections. Repetitively annoying, off-key and superfluous to the score. If that woman's voice weren't present, I could see this track doing very well. Thank god for that bass line; I really looked forward to it on the loop.

Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker: My submission for this go-round. Tenpei Sato has a reputation for being competent but a little bland in his work. 'Game Breaker' is a glaring slap in the face to everyone who's ever dismissed Sato as a one-trick composer. It's creative, vibrant and bold. The pace ebbs and flows as would a real battle, while the instrumentation temporarily recedes, then comes back with a vengeance for more. The latin-inspired rhythm gives 'Game Breaker' a fiery passion that's quite unusual for Sato's work, and that's why I love it. I can actually see a professional pair doing a tango to this track, it's that charged. Very awesome work.

Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM): The Twinbee games have offered up some interesting music. The one persistent flaw with around half of them, however, is that they're a lot like cotton candy: they're sweet and fluffy, but once you're done, you've found that it wasn't really that filling. Sadly, 'Sky Avenue' falls into this category. Nice, good to listen to for a little while but it's nothing I'd really come back to. The Twinbee series has better offerings.

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!: Weirdness abounds! The percussion is very peculiar but not unpleasant. But I do have a bit of a problem with the melodic layer of this track; it seems discombobulated, like the composer was trying to be weird just for weirdness' sake. And when the melody does try to gather itself, it competes with the overpowering drums. I think some volume adjustments could help "Toridon!!" significantly. Also, if I had my way, I'd ditch that gong. It's just too much noise in this track.


POINTS!!

3 Points: Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
1 Point: Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
1 Point: Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
1 Point: Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track


In the end, the bass line from the Hunks Work Shop! track got it a point, which I think it's going to need. The Falcom track was a "duh" choice and 'Temptation' had some pretty good moments in between some lesser ones. Everything else felt a little bland or underdeveloped to me. A so-so week, but not all bad. The Falcom track's a sure keeper, and I'll continue loving 'Game Breaker' as long as I live.

value tart Jun 27, 2006 10:29 PM

I think I'll be voting sometime later this week. Dear lord, theres a Hunks Workshop track in here. We've transcended H-games and moved on to Y-games. :(

Album: Zombies Ate My Neighbors (Game Rip)
Track: Zombie Panic
Composer: Joe McDermott
Year: 1993

Double Post:
Hey, has the title track from Civ 4 been nominated yet? If not, I FUCKING CALL THAT ONE.

Excrono Jun 28, 2006 08:11 PM

There were a lot of really good tracks this week, I had to break from my usual 3/2/1 spread and be generous with the points spread; just about every track was deserving of at least one.

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")

I really enjoyed this piece. The pleasant orchestration and well developed melody come together in a positive manner, making it highly enjoyable after repeated listens.

FM Sound Module Maniax – TripleVOPM

The three minute repeating drum loops really kill this track for me. The lead in time is not worth the slightly above average synth melody that precedes it.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death")

I found this to be one of the more memorable themes from the Genso Suikoden soundtrack. I think this was partially due to the quality of the instruments used, and its contextual use during three high profile death scenes. The melody isn’t too shabby either, and really tugs on the heartstrings.

I don’t know why you had to include a game spoiler in the track title though, even if it is how it was stated on the album.

Granado Espada Soundtrack CD – Temptation

I’m really digging the fusion of techno and symphonic elements in this piece. The introduction and conclusion of this track were really superb in my opinion, and if the middle was just as strong it would have garnered an easy three points. Sadly, the melody languishes out in the middle, making this an uneven but overall decent nomination.

Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track

It was kind of a surprise to hear this track open with a drum loop, and a whistled tune. Even more surprising was that it actually sounded very slick. The pop vocal interlude was soft of distracting though, and really broke the mood of the piece. Perhaps if there was more of a lead in, or if it was downplayed slightly this wouldn’t be an issue. Regardless, this is an enjoyable piece that is anything but conventional.

Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker

This is quite an interesting nomination, which features a blend of musical styles and instruments that work surprisingly well together. The electronica/jazz introduction leads into a decidedly Latin violin and guitar section. And yet it all manages to work, creating a very catchy melody that could easily go on “Repeat One” for an hour or two.

Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

I found this to be bright and bubbly piece of stage music, that is both a pleasant and forgettable melody. It is highly evocative of Jun Ishikawa’s work from the Kirby series, which is a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it.

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!

Another weird track, but that is not a compliment in this case. There are a few passages that start developing a fun, and funky melody (mainly during the trumpet sections) but the rest is way too muddled for my tastes.

Point Spread:

2 Points: Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
2 Points: Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
1 Point: Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation:
1 Point: Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version
Runner Up: Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track

And my nomination for next week:

Album: Dragon Quest V ~Bride of the Heavens~ Symphonic Suite
Track Title: Satan
Track Number: 9
Artist: Koichi Sugiyama
Catalog Number: APCG-9004
Year: 1994
Source: http://www.rpgfan.com/soundtracks/dq5-ss/index.html

Its most likely going to do badly, but that isn't the point (usually...)

Cyan_Ide Jun 28, 2006 09:46 PM

2 points - Tobal No. 1 OST - Toridon!!

2 points - Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")

1 point - Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death")

1 point - Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

Kaleb.G Jun 28, 2006 10:47 PM

In order of preference:

2 point(s) :: Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
Granado Espada has some excellent tracks, and this is one of them. Temptation sounds much like what would be achieved if you locked David Bergeaud (Ratchet & Clank) and Go Shiina (Tales of Legendia) in a recording studio together and asked them to compose a track. Having said that, it becomes apparent why I rank this track so highly.

2 point(s) :: Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
SNES BIAS
Also, near the end of this track, it actually sounds much like the work of Kondo or Uematsu. Interesting!

1 point :: Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
Superb instrument usage and a great melody. Easily one of the best tracks from the album.

1 point :: Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track
It's tracks like this that prove Shinji Hosoe's versatility. I enjoy the whistling and even the vocal samples; those elements really add originality to this piece. Nevertheless, it's a catchy and vitalizing tune.

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
Good melody and instrumentation quality. I can't find it incredibly memorable, but it's still good stuff.

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!
It's a roaring and flamboyant track. It's also a repetitive and nerve-racking track if I'm not in the mood for it. But at it's best moments, this funky track shows a good amount of originality.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death")
The live guitar is always going to give an advantage. However, the melody is merely decent; only getting interesting right as it ends, which is rather soon. If this weren't so short, I may have enjoyed it more.

FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleDVDA
I respect the unique sound, but 8 minutes is just too damn much. I'd have to say the best part is the use of the "fake ending" and going into the following section. Listened to this once through (though I've heard the ringtone version multiple times), and it's been off my playlist ever since. What is this kim-chi shit.

orion_mk3 Jun 29, 2006 12:28 AM

I've been updating the votes on the SoTW wiki page as they come in, but I'm not sure if I'm also supposed to add new nominations to the queue as well. If so, I'm not sure where certain people (like Crash) would be, since they have fallen off the top of the queue since last week and haven't yet been added to the bottom. Guidance?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excrono
Album: Dragon Quest V ~Bride of the Heavens~

There was a time when people might have though DQ to be too popular. But we're in the time of the Suikoden Precedent how :D

Excrono Jun 29, 2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion_mk3
I've been updating the votes on the SoTW wiki page as they come in, but I'm not sure if I'm also supposed to add new nominations to the queue as well. If so, I'm not sure where certain people (like Crash) would be, since they have fallen off the top of the queue since last week and haven't yet been added to the bottom. Guidance?


There was a time when people might have though DQ to be too popular. But we're in the time of the Suikoden Precedent how :D

There have been at least two (non-placing) nominations from the DQ series in the past (as I recall.) And I don't not recall there being anyone who was actively opposing them. But, as you said it is a moot point due to the GS decision.

THE POWER OF WATER Jun 29, 2006 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orion_mk3
I've been updating the votes on the SoTW wiki page as they come in, but I'm not sure if I'm also supposed to add new nominations to the queue as well. If so, I'm not sure where certain people (like Crash) would be, since they have fallen off the top of the queue since last week and haven't yet been added to the bottom. Guidance?

Crash is in the queue (right below my name, actually). If someone isn't on the queue, just stick their name below any other new nominators in the appropriately named New Nominators section.


Quote:

Originally Posted by orion_mk3
There was a time when people might have though DQ to be too popular. But we're in the time of the Suikoden Precedent how :D

We've had DQ before, so this isn't a huge problem with me, especially since we haven't had anything from DQ5. Maybe DQ1 or DQ8 would be too popular.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 29, 2006 04:05 AM

I see I'm in the queue again, which is nice. But perhaps someone could add my nomination next time they're updating.

I mean, you got SonicPanda's magnum opus of a track title in there. I must've been passed over in the hour it took to type his nomination up.

Chuckster Jun 29, 2006 09:49 AM

(3 points) Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker: I haven't been a fan of Sato's previous entries in this contest, but this one's a winner. Lovely upbeat track with a distinct latin flavor that gives it kick (anything flamenco = win). Could have mistook it for a Wild Arms track if I closed my eyes.

(2 points) Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II"): Piano was all I needed to hear. Violins add a nice touch too.

(1 point) Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM): A solid piece of synth. No frills, but it works.

Just missed: Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track - Like the syncopated pacing, like the whistle (another Wild Arms sound-alike). I'm more tolerant of voice sampling than others, but here it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Last place: FM Sound Module Maniax – TripleVOPM: I don't like to mention songs just to bash them. BUT -- this is one tough nut to crack. All that percussion, so very little substance, and nine minutes to boot. This could be for someone, but so not for me.

Liontamer Jun 29, 2006 11:07 AM

3 points: Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
2 points: Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
1 point: Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track

KyleDunamis Jun 29, 2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

There was a time when people might have though DQ to be too popular. But we're in the time of the Suikoden Precedent how
when would that be? A long time ago (I think it may have even been a single digit week) I nominated the regular battle theme from Dragon Quest 6. And geez, if I thought that my Suikoden nom would've caused such an uproar, I would've just gone with the Shining Force 2 nom, It probably would've done better anyway.

orion_mk3 Jun 29, 2006 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KyleDunamis
when would that be? A long time ago (I think it may have even been a single digit week) I nominated the regular battle theme from Dragon Quest 6. And geez, if I thought that my Suikoden nom would've caused such an uproar, I would've just gone with the Shining Force 2 nom, It probably would've done better anyway.

I wasn't really being serious :D

In other news, the nomination queue is now updated with this week's new nominations; I'll have a final nomination of my own up shortly. I also added a new "subtotal" line to the Voting Archive in the wiki, so people can see at a glance how well their tracks are doing relative to one another before the final tally.

EDIT: My *final* nomination for next week. Sorry for all the changes, but I've got a lot of variables to consider.

Album: King Kong The Game
Track Title: The T-Rex Cometh
Track Number: N/A
Artist: Chance Thomas
Catalog Number: N/A
Year: 2005
Source: http://www.kingkonggame.com/us/music/

Elorin Jun 29, 2006 11:53 PM

Gosh, MoO, your Civ4 nomination is fantastic. I take my pointy wizard's hat off to you. Votes for Week 65 following shortly.

Alright, here are my votes minus comments (running on a somewhat tight schedule this week). Some great entires this week. Hunks Work Shop! was a big surprise, for one.

(3 points) Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track

(2 points) Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

(1 point) Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II 'Ending II')

Phantom Brave just fell short on points and I was tempted to give FM Sound Module Maniax a point because I did rather like the general feel of the song. Pity it's too long at some points.

And just as an update, MoO changed his nomination to the one below:

* Track: Baba Yet
* Artist: Christopher Tin
* Album: Civilization IV Official Soundtrack
* Track Number: 10

value tart Jun 30, 2006 12:04 AM

O_O Thanks!

isdapi Jun 30, 2006 10:11 AM

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II") (3 points)
Falcom is a box of surprises as my noms. Michio Fujisawa is in charge of the "new age" arrangements in Falcom, and evidently, he isn't so well-known as Ryo Yonemitsu or Tomohiko Kishimoto. Anyway, this piece shows the Fujisawa's style and his skill as an arranger. Piano and strings is all what he needs for his arrangements and this piece is no exception. To be honest, this one is one of his more lively pieces, but the slow and deep strings here are present too.

This wonderful arrangement of "Ending II" overflows optimism, it's maybe the most positive piece of music than I had heard. It's a piece of contrasts, the slow and sorrowful passages in contrast with the uplifting violin, the classical strings in opposition to the jazzy piano interlude. Music is about the experience, just let it flow.

FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM
Quite the creative track. It's hard that only through percussion and repetitive rhythms the listener doesn't tire during almost nine minutes. The addition of electronica elements isn't enough to rescue me from boredom. Risky proposition although ineffective.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event 'Teo's Death')
It's a pity that this track is the typical sad song. A little of the creativity of the previous track would be very beneficial in this one. Too undeveloped and generic for my taste. Possibly, in the game context works very well.

Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation (2 points)
Wow, this one reminds me so much of "Gothic Neclord". The combination of techno and violins is masterful and just for the originality factor it deserves all my praises, but not my points. Moreover, the techno beats bore me, I can't get enough of the splendid violins.

Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track
It has a pleasant atmosphere until the generic techno voices appear. The whistling effect is the stand-out feature, with regard to the rest, is just decent. Why Hosoe had to add those annoying voices?

Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker (1 point)
It has written the name of Sato all over it. I have never hidden my admiration for Sato, he almost always composes very original music and of my taste. "Game Breaker" doesn't break the trend, it's so original and awesome as always. A new favorite of mine, kudos to the nominator.

Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
This one sounds me familiar, I can't say why. Anyway, it's a fairly nice tune but quite limited. The melodic progression is predictable, even for almost three minutes, the melody feels stale and dull. Too sugar without any ingredient to counteract it.

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!
It pretends to be innovative, and it is but paying a price. The accessibility isn't its main virtue, in my opinion, it uses weird samples just for the sake of being weird. The structure isn't convincing at all, I can't get into it.

ikkei Jun 30, 2006 11:23 AM

2 points - Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation


2 points - Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track


2 points - Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

Overall this week had very good stuff, maybe there was a little lack of hard to find material. I was going to make a 6 hit combo, but I finally thought that giving 1 point to each song was nearly like not giving anything to them. I'm sorry for my lazyness in making some comments.

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 12:38 PM

I have absolutely no excuse for not commenting on the last few weeks, although week 63 didn't deserve any.

Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
It's songs like this that almost made me create my philosophy on instrumtentation in the first place. Almost. The strings are corny as hell, but you know what? I don't care. This song is great. Love pretty much everything about it (including strings), especially 2:02. The best part has to be the infectious beat, though. It reaches it's prime at 2:15, when it's accompanied with subtle harmonies. Nice.

Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
Ever since I nominated this song, I've been banging my head into walls, wondering WHY IN THE WORLD DID I NOMINATE THIS. THERE'S SO MUCH BETTER. Then I listen to it, and I realize. Ok guys, I hope you distribute your points while listening to this song ;)

Ever since I joined, I've been meaning to nominate this, but I was worried it might be flanked for being too popular. Then someone nominated the world's greatest song (Super Turrican Stage 1-1) then I lol'd. I thought everybody heard that song already. Seriously, what's wrong with you people.

Anyway, the song itself is just pure 100% solid awesome composition. Nothing more, but that's okay. It loops more than once because it's good enough to do so.

Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track
First listening to this, I thought this week was going to be stellar. But after a few listens, it starts to lose feeling. Okay, Whistling. There's a fine line between using a unique instrument for the sake of it, and using a unique instrument to fit a mood, and this song stands perfectly on that line, which overall puts my opinion neutral on it. Unfortunately, it uses the most boring chord progression of all time (I-IV-I-IV-I-IV Repeat till wax falls out). Oh well, at least 1:20 makes up for it. Still an enjoyable listen.

Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
And haha, this song shows up and proves the point I was making. Over at 0:25-0:55, we hear the wind instrument whose name escapes me, and it sounds great. Everything blend perfectly with it, and it's undoubtedly the best part of the song. As for the rest of the song... ehh, honestly, I couldn't get into it overall. Everything seemed so mimicry, since the melody and most everything at times were doing the same thing. Still, 0:25 wins.

FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM
http://static.flickr.com/35/71745661_1a118fe883_m.jpg

Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!
Interesting. At first it reminded me of one of the menu themes from Super Monkey Ball, which would've earned bonus points. Anyway, I seriously don't know what to say about this one. This song was obviously meant to be... um... fun, and everything shows. It's just a crazy jungle beat with some synths and very interesting trombone solos. It's fun to isten to. Um... that's it.

... What? I could care less about that synth horn, to be honest.

Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event 'Teo's Death'
Impressive stuff here. Standard Guitar fare here, almost minimalistic but a clear melody can be found within it. Wait... this is the song everybody was complaining about? Well... I was expecting more, but this is pretty solid and powerful stuff. The choirs make this song lose it's purity (Guitar version LOL), but that's perhaps the best part of the song. Unfortunately, I hated the way it ended all Major like. Mood killer.

Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II 'Ending II')
Lovely tune this is. Slightly sophisticated for it's simplicity. My only gripe is the incredibly boring chord progressions all over the place, and at some place, the chord changes seem forced, especially at the end(right at 3:26 and 3:35). Favorite part is at 1:53, though, where the piano develops some nice character. Overall, great song, very similar to one I was thinking of nominating once I clear my stage 5's.

Great week folks, as expected for a Week 64.

Double Post:
What the hell just happened to the nomination queue? Why are so many nominations being withdrawn?

orion_mk3 Jun 30, 2006 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
What the hell just happened to the nomination queue? Why are so many nominations being withdrawn?

You'll see soon enough :D

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
You'll see soon enough :D

It's another Tim Follin week, isn't it.

Dr. Uzuki Jun 30, 2006 01:25 PM

3 points - Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker

I was enjoying the playful, lively first half of the track plenty. That second half fiddle sealed things.

2 points - FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM

That's right. Two points. It's so majorly flawed that it actually becomes more endearing. My cheers are with the underdog so much more when it has no shot at all. As a pusher of ultra repetitive, I must support the other brave souls fighting for the cause.

1 point - Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")

A little droning and schmaltzy. Trying to convince myself that I'm not tacking this on to third spot simply because of the lush sound quality. The piano throughout is quite nice, particularly near the end.

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

2 points - FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM

That's right. Two points. It's so majorly flawed that it actually becomes more endearing. My cheers are with the underdog so much more when it has no shot at all. As a pusher of ultra repetitive, I must support the other brave souls fighting for the cause.

Do you even like this song? I don't think people should be giving points to songs simply because of the seemingly underdoggish status. But whatever.

Dr. Uzuki Jun 30, 2006 01:48 PM

Oh, I do. Out of all the noms this week, that is the song I've replayed the most.

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 02:34 PM

Okay good.

I gave it 3 points BTW. I've listened to it over a dozen times and it still hasn't gone stale.

Kaleb.G Jun 30, 2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz
We've had DQ before, so this isn't a huge problem with me

Dammit, you guys went out for ice cream without me?

Double Post:
=== Kaleb.G ===
* Album Title: Ray'z PREMIUM BOX -BEYOND-
* Artist: Tamayo Kawamoto
* Track Title: SLAUGHTER HOUR
* Source: #gamemp3s
* File Location: .upcoming folder
* Disc Number: 2
* Track Number: 12
* Catalogue Number: ZTMD-6
* Year: 2005

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2006 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3
You'll see soon enough :D


Yeah. Except I wasn't good enough to make the final cut. I said I didn't think I had anything good enough anyhow, but they were all "no, we want it anyhow". So I give, and they cut me down. "lol, no that's not good at all". "Well, I told you." "Yes, but it's more demeaning this way."

;_____;

THE POWER OF WATER Jun 30, 2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
It's another Tim Follin week, isn't it.

If only. :(

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaleb.G

=== Kaleb.G ===
* Album Title: Ray'z PREMIUM BOX -BEYOND-
* Artist: Tamayo Kawamoto
* Track Title: SLAUGHTER HOUR
* Source: #gamemp3s
* File Location: .upcoming folder
* Disc Number: 2
* Track Number: 12
* Catalogue Number: ZTMD-6
* Year: 2005

<3
Pray tell, is that the original or an arrangement?

value tart Jun 30, 2006 05:59 PM

This is my first voting post in a while. =o

I'm just gonna post my votes. Don't have the energy to write full reviews.

3 points for Falcom Special Box
2 points for Hunks Workshop
1 point for Granado

orion_mk3 Jun 30, 2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
Yeah. Except I wasn't good enough to make the final cut. I said I didn't think I had anything good enough anyhow, but they were all "no, we want it anyhow". So I give, and they cut me down. "lol, no that's not good at all". "Well, I told you." "Yes, but it's more demeaning this way."

;_____;

I had to resubmit three times to make the cut, if that makes you feel any better :)

Not to mention putting out like 100 public nominations and then withdrawing them due to lack of communication.

Kaleb.G Jun 30, 2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
<3
Pray tell, is that the original or an arrangement?

As far as I know, it's the original from Raystorm. Don't know anything about the games and haven't played them, so I can't tell you anything more. Download my nomination and hear for yourself.

http://host.kg13.com/music/_misc/Ray...TER%20HOUR.mp3

Double Post:
I found "SLAUGHTER HOUR" on two other albums.
http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtrack...alog=ZTTL-0002
http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtrack...alog=ZTTL-0005

I'm going to compare these a little later in case I need/want to change my nomination.

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 07:26 PM

Nope, you're right, that is the original. I did consider nominating it (Rayforce Zuntata), but it didn't meet my standards.

Also, I've been holding back my other Rayforce nomination because people keep nominating from it :(. Granted, Aquarium was from the arranged (Neu Tanz), but my nom would've come up too quickly and not many even liked Aquarium so I didn't want it up while everyone was bitter.

TCK Jun 30, 2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
Nope, you're right, that is the original. I did consider nominating it (Rayforce Zuntata), but it didn't meet my standards.

So, in other words, it wasn't Stage 5 music? :P

NES5M

Darkcomet72 Jun 30, 2006 11:16 PM

Ooh, also forgot to mention, Zuntata did a live version of Slaughter Hour for Live 1998 Guten Talk. It's mostly based on the Neu Tanz mix, though. My fave version is the original.

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Originally Posted by TCK
So, in other words, it wasn't Stage 5 music? :P

Yes :(

THE POWER OF WATER Jul 1, 2006 12:06 AM

See the Chocobo's Happy Christmas precedent thread for more important discussion involving the results of the poll.

Dr. Uzuki Jul 1, 2006 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
Yeah. Except I wasn't good enough to make the final cut. I said I didn't think I had anything good enough anyhow, but they were all "no, we want it anyhow". So I give, and they cut me down. "lol, no that's not good at all". "Well, I told you." "Yes, but it's more demeaning this way."

;_____;

You too? I knew I really didn't have anything for that particular niche but wanted to help out because I was doubtful Drak would find seven others to participate. Then I got dropped like bad habit.

David Deluxe Jul 1, 2006 04:18 AM

It seems as if the opinions regarding Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation differ a lot. And you know what, I'm actually pleased about that, since it's always nice to see who likes my nominated tracks and who doesn't. ='D

Well, as usual I'm too lazy for comments, but I'll vote anyway:

3 Points: Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
2 Points: FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM
1 Point: Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

All in all an awesome week, seriously.

Kaleb.G Jul 1, 2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TCK
NES5M

sup ytmnd


Also, update on my nom. Same exact track, earlier publication.

=== Kaleb.G ===
* Album Title: Raystorm
* Artist: Tamayo Kawamoto
* Track Title: SLAUGHTER HOUR (AREA7)
* Source: #Anime-Game-Osts, [http://chudahs-corner.com/soundtracks/index.php?catalog=ZTTL-0002 Chudah]
* File Location: .upcoming folder
* Disc Number: 1 (of 1)
* Track Number: 12
* Catalogue Number: ZTTL-0002
* Year: 1996

THE POWER OF WATER Jul 2, 2006 09:25 PM

Voting is closed!

1). [28] Falcom Special Box '90 - A Fast Flight to You (Ys II "Ending II")
2). [26] Phantom Brave ~Original sound track~ - Game Breaker
3). [15/10] Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation
4). [15/8.5] Tobal No. 1 Original Soundtrack - Toridon!!
5). [13] Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track
6). [12] Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
7). [10] Genso Suikoden Original Game Soundtrack - Theme of Sadness ~ Guitar Version (from event "Teo's Death")
8). [7] FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM

Week 65 nominating will remain open because we're up for a Battle next week.

Darkcomet72 Jul 2, 2006 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz
7). [10/7] Pop'n Twinbee: Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)
8). [7] FM Sound Module Maniax - TripleVOPM

You all suck :(

Anyway, after Battle 08 is finish, does that mean we'll have a Super BATTLE 64 to determine the best battle winner?

orion_mk3 Jul 2, 2006 10:12 PM

I like them results; best of all, the whole thread creation/management thing seemed to go well.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 2, 2006 10:25 PM

Aaaaargh. So close to Gold! I'm gonna be lamenting this for a little while. I can take solace in that the results were very close, though. I'd hoped Game Breaker's uniqueness and energy would be enough to win more votes, but c'est la vie.

I happily accept 2nd place. It's not as though the Falcom track is undeserving.

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
You all suck :(

Anyway, after Battle 08 is finish, does that mean we'll have a Super BATTLE 64 to determine the best battle winner?

Of course, it's only appropriate. We'll call it "SotW: Decisive Battle." ("Decisive" does come before "Fierce," right?)

BTW, before the Chocobo precedent is decided...eligible, or no? It's from FF VI - Special Tracks, which I just found out about today due to the Mayn Event contest.

Drakken Jul 3, 2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
It's from FF VI

:dotdotdot:

orion_mk3 Jul 3, 2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
BTW, before the Chocobo precedent is decided...eligible, or no? It's from FF VI - Special Tracks, which I just found out about today due to the Mayn Event contest.

No, no, a thousand times no. Remix though it be, it's still the Chocobo theme, and the Chocobo precedent has been toppled in a violent coup [/mytwocents]

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 12:43 PM

C'mon, have you guys even listened to the track? It gets pretty good after 1:38.

Drakken Jul 3, 2006 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
C'mon, have you guys even listened to the track? It gets pretty good after 1:38.

*smacks head against desk*

It's from Final Fantasy.

This is almost ridiculous to me.

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 01:03 PM

So was CHz's MintJam nom. :(

KyleDunamis Jul 3, 2006 01:08 PM

Anything from Final Fantasy is too well known. Before you know it, we'll be having theme weeks with 7 Chocobo remixes and the theme from The Super Mario Bros Super Show.

Darkcomet72 Jul 3, 2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ikkei
2 points - Granado Espada Soundtrack CD - Temptation


2 points - Hunks Work Shop! Original Sound Track - Bonus Track


2 points - Pop'n Twinbee - Graffiti - Sky Avenue (Stage 5 BGM)

I just noticed his points haven't been tallied into the final score.

EDIT: No this time I JUST noticed I swear

value tart Jul 3, 2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleDunamis
Anything from Final Fantasy is too well known. Before you know it, we'll be having theme weeks with 7 Chocobo remixes and the theme from The Super Mario Bros Super Show.

No, the theme from TSMBSS is inadmissible for a completely different reason.

IT SUCKS ASS.

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleDunamis
Anything from Final Fantasy is too well known. Before you know it, we'll be having theme weeks with 7 Chocobo remixes and the theme from The Super Mario Bros Super Show.

I think that's a "slippery slope" scenario that's unlikely to happen. If everyone on GFF knows about the Special Tracks album except me, I'm willing to accept that. But if not, you can't disqualify a track because of its source as long as the arrangement is obscure and different enough from the original.

KyleDunamis Jul 3, 2006 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
I think that's a "slippery slope" scenario that's unlikely to happen. If everyone on GFF knows about the Special Tracks album except me, I'm willing to accept that. But if not, you can't disqualify a track because of its source as long as the arrangement is obscure and different enough from the original.

The Chocobo poll says otherwise. I quote the "No" from it, which won 10-5:

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No
You believe that there should be some sort of obscurity test applied to the sources of arranged tracks. Presumably this will be hammered out at a later date, possibly with another poll.
If anything is too popular as a source, it's the Chocobo theme.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 3, 2006 04:02 PM

I'm going to repeat this here:

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
I like option 2. (bar arrangements of tracks above a certain level of obscurity, where that level is somewhere between One Winged Angel and Suikoden)

The way I see it, an arrangement of One-Winged Angel, no matter how obscure, is still going to sound like One-Winged Angel. And I'm pretty damned sick of that song.

A good example would be this:Kid Icarus (Partena no Kagami) & Metroid ~ Arranged Cassete - Hirokazu "Hip" Tanaka <05> bgm medley (Metroid)

It's definitely an arrangement and it's probably known but not immensely so. And it's by a reasonably popular composer. Just the same, it's the freaking music from Brinstar! We all know this melody. We've heard it umpteen times. Aside from some more resonant synths and background fx, it's nothing new.

Just because it isn't the original track doesn't mean it's relatively unknown.

So regardless of how obscure a remix of the Chocobo theme is, it's still the Chocobo theme, with which we're all quite familiar. If, for some reason, it sounds nothing like the Chocobo theme, and that's the basis of your argument, then it's just a very poor remix.

I get the sense that this is all a roundabout attempt at invalidating CHz's MintJam nomination.

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 04:28 PM

No, I actually like this arrangement. I just wanted to get this one in before the vote was officially closed.

Also, your Metroid example isn't very good, because it's pretty much a MIDI rip with different instruments. The Special Tracks Chocobo arrangement has an entirely different style.

Dr. Uzuki Jul 3, 2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleDunamis
Anything from Final Fantasy is too well known. Before you know it, we'll be having theme weeks with 7 Chocobo remixes and the theme from The Super Mario Bros Super Show.

I had a nominated track that took silver eons ago from White Melodies of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. I wouldn't go as far to say anything FF is too well known. Most of it, yeah.

THE POWER OF WATER Jul 3, 2006 07:42 PM

Oh wow, this reply is going to be buckets of fun. :D

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Originally Posted by Darkcomet72
I just noticed his points haven't been tallied into the final score.

EDIT: No this time I JUST noticed I swear

Crap, this actually changes the top three.

orion_mk3 :mad:

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Originally Posted by Mo0
No, the theme from TSMBSS is inadmissible for a completely different reason.

IT SUCKS ASS.

No, the theme from TSMBSS is inadmissible for a completely different reason.

THE SUPER MARIO BROS. SUPER SHOW IS NOT A VIDEO GAME.

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
So was CHz's MintJam nom. :(

Splitting hairs, Seiken Densetsu != FF. I'd similarly argue that FF Legend 1-3 (SaGa) remixes would be okay since I don't think their soundtracks are particularly well known (just an example, since I'm not planning to nominate the only one I know that'd be eligible). I could be wrong, but that's my impression.

Besides:
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Originally Posted by Nomination rule 2
Use common sense; if the album/game it comes from has the words "Final" and "Fantasy" in its title, there's a good chance many people have heard it already.

Nothing from FF is automatically disqualified. Sure, as a practical matter, just about every original soundtrack would be gone, except maaaaaaybe FF2j, FF3j, FFTA, and FFCC.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe.

THAT SAID

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
But if not, you can't disqualify a track because of its source as long as the arrangement is obscure and different enough from the original.

Yes, yes we can. The vote closed on Friday, so it's been determined that we CAN factor in the source.

Besides, the Troian Beauty remix is better. :(

KyleDunamis Jul 3, 2006 07:46 PM

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THE SUPER MARIO BROS. SUPER SHOW IS NOT A VIDEO GAME.
But it's a REMIX of a song from a videogame. Arrange CDs aren't video games either, remember. :biggrin:

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CHz
Besides, the Troian Beauty remix is better. :(

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http://www.quiteajolt.com/gff/sigs/crazyharry.png
I have bad taste in music
Just reminding you...

Darkcomet72 Jul 3, 2006 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
If, for some reason, it sounds nothing like the Chocobo theme, and that's the basis of your argument, then it's just a very poor remix.

Apparently that IS the basis of his argument, but I don't get what you're saying.

I myself listened to the song in question, and thought it was a HORRID remix. At the same time, I enjoyed the song itself. Now, I could understand the lack of enjoyment of a remix because it wasn't faithful to the original tune (One of the main reasons I don't like OCRemix, or the remixing community as a whole). However, in SotW, judging based on faithfulness of the original is just plain unfair, since some songs (most) are original.

I'm not saying I want to see this new Chocobo song in (but after listening, I honestly wouldn't mind [Okay I AM saying]), it's just that I couldn't find the point of that post.

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
Quote:

Originally Posted by CHz
I have bad taste in music


Everybody who participates in SotW has bad taste in music. Except me.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 3, 2006 09:00 PM

Darkcomet, I didn't actually listen to the FF VI remix. I was simply saying that it's either a track that sounds very familiar because it's another variation on the Chocobo theme, or it's a track that is different enough to stand on its own because it doesn't sound lke the theme much at all.

In the first case, it's too familiar, even if it contains different instrumentation. In the latter case, if it sounds so little like the original, it has no business being called a remix.

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
Also, your Metroid example isn't very good, because it's pretty much a MIDI rip with different instruments. The Special Tracks Chocobo arrangement has an entirely different style.

Quality has nothing to do with eligibility. An arrangement can be the worst piece of crap around and still, technically, be eligible.

Obscurity matters, in both the original source and the notoriety of the arrangement. If someone took a very underrated track from FFVI and arranged that, then it might stand a chance. Maybe. Probably not, but just maybe.

However, when you consider that the chocobo theme has been heard and variated through so many different FF games, another arrangement is really a drop in the bucket.

I used the Metroid arrangement as an example because it's a good demonstration of how a track's obscurity sometimes cannot overcome the melody's familiarity when eligibility is concerned. Obscure or not, 90% of listeners will recognize it as the Brinstar music. Seeing as that theme is well-known enough to have been remixed for use in Smash Bros., I'd say it's not obscure, even in arranged form.

This is basically how I also feel about the FFVI track.

Kaleb.G Jul 3, 2006 09:07 PM

Can we get Dshu to start nominate some undeniably obscure tracks?

IT IS A CHALLENGE.

Dhsu Jul 3, 2006 09:10 PM

I meant that your example was inappropriate, not that the track was bad. The Brinstar track is barely different from the original, while I think the Chocobo arrangement is relatively unique, including different notes and chord progressions as opposed to merely a change in instrumentation. I saw a lot of people in the poll thread advocating a system where the difference of the arrangement is taken into account in the case that the source is fairly familiar.

And Kaleb, it's not my fault you guys change the rules every time I nominate. :P

P.S. Can we get to people start spelling my forum name correctly?

IT IS A CHALLENGE.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 3, 2006 09:41 PM

Perhaps a source can be too familiar?

I believe that's the crux of the whole debate here.

THE POWER OF WATER Jul 3, 2006 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KyleDunamis
But it's a REMIX of a song from a videogame. Arrange CDs aren't video games either, remember. :biggrin:

Aye, but Eric Allaman, Shuki Levy, and Haim Saban aren't video game composers.

And actually, since we've banned film and anime music in Nomination rule 4, we should probably ban TV music too. :(

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
Just reminding you...

Hey, I put that in my sig on purpose to undercut everything I say in GGMD.

And besides, it's true. Ask Larry. :(


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