KOF XI (PS2 Import)
 

OK TIERS...

OMG: KULA, GATO, OSWALD own this b*tch.

Load times suck booty, however....

I was playing around in the options yesterday and I found something in there that said "cut intro" or something like that. When I chose "yes", it seemed to cut load time significantly. It might be my imagination because I've become used to the game...but the load times seem to be much more reasonable now.

BTW...last guy..."Magaki" or whatever his name is...unbeatable. The only way I beat him was to tone down the CPU level and go "one rounders".

If the CPU chooses...you simply cannot get close enough to him to do him any harm whatsoever. He throws nearly invisible projectiles all the time while teleporting, while reflecting your projectiles, etc. His super makes the air explode (full screen) for 10 seconds...1/4 cheese damage even while blocking.

Pure stupidity.

Anyway, should you buy the import...it comes with trading cards which are pretty cool. Here are some scans:


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Oswald is the card player right?

How are Shion and Momoko? I'm particularly interested in the new female characters. I hope Shermie hasn't taken a hit in quality this time around.

PS2 version have an addition of seven characters from NGBC: Tung Fu Rue, Geese, Mr.Big, Robert, Hotaru, Mai and Ex Kyo (NGBC version). Shermie doesn't make appearance outside of dreammatch.

Oswald is the assassin using card as his weapon.

2003 made up for their past mistakes in 2k1,2k2 and Neowave. XI is just perfect with a few newcomers and awesome combos. The OST also sounds great . I think its the best one i've heard since Evolution / 99 and 2k.

There isn't much to say. Its another 2d fighting game. I was hoping Atomiswave would really redo the sprites like guilty gear or different but no effort.. Now we got like 7 copy and pasted characters just to spice up the game more. Still, its a great game..

As for storyline, Alot of interesting shit is going on. Ash Crimson proves to everyone that he is more than just a random fighter >.>;;.


I also appreciate Oswald's fighting style.. Its been TOO LONG since i played with that kind of character since Gambit but he'll do. I was able to pull off some nice combos with Super Cancels..He is too good.

Ugh, bad loading times? I hope this isn't like Battle Colluseum where it loads in-between rounds when you switch characters, because that takes out all the fun..

I didn't have much trouble with NGBC's loading time but if its more worse , then i'll just wait for an xbox release =/..

What I don't understand is the fact they'll release certain games in America on certain systems, but in Japan they release the game for each consoles [not including GC here]. I know KoF isn't AS big as it is in Japan I bet, but still...there are fans here that would like to play and try it. I don't see why SNK America couldn't make limited quanities of the KoF. On the other hand, maybe they'll release KoF XI for the american ps2 as a package with another KoF that might come out in the future, like they did with 2002/2003 [which I just bought today finally]

It just hit me, if you're talking about before the fight then its supposed to be like that..I have a KOFXI arcade in a store by me and it shouldn't be any different..

Mangaki... the one from Kizuna Encounter? cause if its him then he's cheap. He was a cheap character back then and he still is .

Yeah, if it's loading times before a fight, I'm cool with that, but if it's inbetween rounds, then that's just unholy!

Just burned it few mins ago. The last boss in KOF MI II was far from being hard to beat, glad the KOF last boss challenge is back. :)


BTW thanks for the covers =p

Nah it aint between rounds.Besides,when you beat a fighter, the next one comes out so its no big deal. The loading times are fine for me.

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Two combo videos.

I'm done watching both KOFXI ps2 version combo videos and I really love Ex Kyo's Esaka song. Anyone who have the game will rip it?

This game doesnt have ANY loading times at all , what are you on about O_o

Yeah I finally got a copy of the game and there are pretty much no loading times, so it's good.

On the topic of combo videos, if you go into training mode and set it to unlimited supers and press the L2 button, the computer will actually do complex dream cancel super combos.. It's good to watch those and learn cool combos.

Robotron is probably reffering to that part where they show the location of the stages. It's suppose to be that way.EVEN in the arcades..

OH I see ... well at least is not like the awful NGBC.

nice when you play in Team mode - you kill the fist opponent n the next round comes inmediately!! :D no waitings :) and Tbh I really like the intro to each battle I dont feel it like "loading"

I haven't played with Kula Diamond since 2000, but since she's fire like many people say, I'll give it a try. My only concern is why they changed Terry's fighting style around. I was able to pull a few super cancels in 2k3 but now its a little complicated to do in the arcades >.<. I think it was a 5-6 hit combo with him alone, I haven't mastered him completely in this version. At least he still has buster wolf. Only not as crazy powerful like in SVC Chaos.

Hmmm I am seriously considering getting this game, however since I have an american Ps2, that might be a little hard. I have a question though...the swap disc, that wouldn't harm my ps2 in any way would it? I couldn't get a mod chip because I live near no one who can do that, so I would have to go with a swap disc. I'm sure there are people here who use it, so are their any dangers to using it?

I dont really bother with modchips so i have a fliptop instead. And no , there is no danger when using it.

- Open lid
- place the swap disc
- let it load
- when it asks you to put the burned game in there, you replace the swap disc for the burned game.

And.. thats that . You need to be careful on how you burn the game though. So keep that in mind.

KOFXI works perfectly in mine.

Well my ps2 is the last old generation version. But overall, it would be ok? I heard that the laser could get messed up, but it could just be a rumor.

Mine is old school too. I dont really own those slim ps2's. So you're good using the fliptop. If not, you're assed out. You could be saving a shitload of money. Tell you that much ;p.

Well, like most everyone here, I'm in love with Oswald, even if he doesn't have that much of combo variation he's still a very good fighter.

Anyone besides me trying to learn how to kick ass with Momoko? She's freaking cute, so I just need to learn how to kick everyone's ass with her.

And now the bad things...what the hell happend with Kasumi, Eiji and Malin? I mean...they are totally shit...Not even the CPU uses them. Not to mention Elisabeth too, talk about useless character.

And to finish, anyone got Geese in Challange mode yet? If yes, can you give some decent combos?

Haha, Kaze.

All the thing you mentionned are the opposite. Oswald can do many thing in this game. Elisabeth, Kasumi, Eiji and Malin aren't shit but Momoko is. She have short range and she deal too much damage. Crappy character. At least, she's not lame as Bao.

I have a question that is off topic? Is it possible to mod those new small PS2?

If it was that powerful, Terry would be IMBAlanced (I personally think Shingo already is. Once he gets close...)

... but back to Terry, just Dream Cancel the Buster Wolf into Power Stream and behold the damage. XD

Malin is still crap IMO, I mean, she was the best character in '03 but now she's just....nothing, totally useless. I know I haven't played that much with her yet, but she isn't that good like she was in '03.

Kasumi too. Her qcf+LP/SP takes so much time to activate that I can take a nap before it hits. I would be good if she was the '99 version. xD

Elisabeth is useless and I'll never admit she's decent or anything. She has some nice attacks but I just think she's a mix of Vanessa and Kula but missing something.

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Ok...so KoF XI will be going to Europe's shores but not Americas. I understand that KoF might not be huge here, but doesn't mean neglect the fans who do like the series. Square does the same thing with their games such as Chrono Cross not being in Europe. I don't understand this selective country BS. If it's a money issue, couldn't they just make limited quanities like they did with KoF's 2000-2003? Regardless of the fact '2D's aren't popular anymore', that doesn't mean neglect the people who still love it.

Your thoughts?

Yeah thats annoying me as well. At least New Jersey has the arcade and I wont argue with that .. =/. I'll just continue downloading them if that's the case. They already CANNED KOF94 Rebout and i enjoyed that game too >.>.

Watch them do the same for KOF:MI2 or rather.. 2006 .

Well, she's useful for at least one thing: with her aid, I cleared Challenge 34 (the 80% damage combo thingie).

Selective country = BS. I hate how we get the fake King of Fighters: Maximum Impact 2, and not the rightful next installment KOF XI. If they're going to do something stupid like that, then at the very least I expect a crappy Playmore release way down in the future when XI is old news.
I do want to see the eyecandy of MI2 still, but why XI is not coming here boggles my mind.

Remember this, FACT: Duolon = God in KOF 2K3. In XI though, it's all about the Gato! A few notes and personal opinions:

Kasumi does not suck. She plays super OMGWTF rushdown, AND has counters. That QCB + B/D throw is great too...

Geese is pretty terrible combo wise. I guess they had to do it after his sick corner game in NGBC. His only super cancel is out of all his counters, and evil shadow smasher (HCB + C) and it has to be out of the first hit. At least his dream cancel is sweet. Plus a uber raising storm as a LDM? Thumbs up from me!

Mr. Big got beatdown by the big nerf stick. He's still fun to use, but his super cancel is just as useless as Geese's. I think they gave his grab LDM priority here. If it had the same priority as it had in NGBC, then I would toss him in the usless bin department. :(

Ex Kyo. God tier in arranged mode, still high tier in arcade mode. Mr. jugglemania. His LDM also does WAY too much damage concidering he gets MAX mode after the taunt.

Momoko is not bad. She has a great corner game, and some really good overheads. Plus her dream cancel is out of a grab DM, and does WTF damage.

Shen Woo is THE man in this game. Sure he isnt god tier, but IMO he's damn well on the top 5! His LDM no longer has ANY weaknesses. Back in 2K3 his LDM made him dizzy VERY easily, but that's completely gone. If the actual Aura connects then watch the opponent cry from the damage it does. (For fun go to training mode, and have Shen vs Kula. Hit her with just the aura of the LDM then a QCFx2 + C DM. Boom she's dead from 2 hits xD) He has a invincibility frame on start up. He also has the sickest dream cancel combo out of anyone. (4 Stocks and 2 Skill Points needed) s.C, F + B, QCF + C XX QCF x2 + D XX (on third hit) C,A,B,C, s.C, F + B, QCF x2 + C. Sure it's throwing all your eggs in one basket, but it pretty much leaves your opponent at 5% health from a full bar.

Terry is different because this is his Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves version. I guess even though SNK said they wanted to keep the universes seperate (since Geese is still alive in KOF) they still said why the hell not just keep the MOTW timeline. It started in KOF 2K3 when they brought over Gato, and Tizoc from MOTW, and now they added B Jenet. ( which is why those three are now the Garou MOTW team ) Either way, this Terry still does crazy damage, can cancel power dunk for juggle combos, and has the ultimate anti air move with his LDM. Even if his Buster Wolf is gimped in this game, he's still DAMN strong.

Ozwald is NOT a Gambit rip off. Only his LDM is like the Royal Flush from the vs games. He has some damn cool moves though, and one of my favorite fighting stances.

Gai has some DAMN good music that I wish was in the arcade version

Magaki is NOT from Kizuna Tag Encounter, but they do have Jyazu (last boss) and Hyate(SP?) (dude with boomerang) as mid bosses in this game. Hyate(SP?) comes with a damn good remix of his song from savage reign, A.K.A the skyscraper song from Kizuna. Also Magaki is not really impossible. Like most/all KOF "impossible" bosses, he has a stupid AI glitch that you can abuse. A lot of people like to knock him down, then run at him to bait his stupid purple forcefield move, and roll to his back, and unleash any BnB combo they can think of. You'll get the hang of it.

The Agent team's theme (Vanessa, Mary, Ramon) is the best in the game IMO. There are a few other ones that are good (Garou Team, KIS Team) but this one is just too damn slick. I picked up a OST from some random torrent I found a while back. It doesn't have any of the new PS2 songs though, but if I have a song someone wants, I can try to upload it somewhere for your hearing pleasure. Got some possible future song of the week nominations in here too. :D

So that's all. A lot to read, but I felt like typing a lot. I'm a damn hardcore SNK/KOF fanbitch so yeah. If anyone has any questions, I can try to answer.

Doulon is a god in 2K3 that's why in some tournaments he's banned just like Meilin. But they are both garbage in XI, the only movement that Doulon improved was his qcb x B/D in the air and that's it.

Kasumi does suck IMO, I know it all depends on the player using her but if she can't use her counters she's dead. I loved her on KoF'99 but now she's way too slow, her qcf x A/C takes to much time...I can read a newspaper and come back and she's still using it.

I really don't use any of the secret characters, but like you said Ex Kyo is too overpowered on both Arcade and Arrange mode.

Well, Momoko is cute I always try to use her so I can learn a little, she's one of my favorites characters in XI. I hope she stays in the series...unlike Bao, or maybe Bao can comeback and make a team with her, like New Psycho Soldier Team, we just need one more children. :)

Shen Woo = God. And you can always start with a j.C and them follow the s.C, F + B....
And if it hits in counter...god help the other character. :P

Oswald is a Gambit ripoff. xD
No really, he's a nice character, has the best anti-air move in Arcade mode (s. A), but his DM (qcf,hcb x A/C) is bad. I mean, it's a great move but unless you use it in a combo you'll always miss his DM, since it takes too much time to hit.

Don't forget about Oswald's version of the Moonslasher though. (HCB x2 + A/C) The DM you mentioned seems to be only semi useful for combos, and dream cancel.

Kasumi's QCB + C series is meant to be used in combos. Mainly s.C, F + A, QCB + C, etc.... You can also use QCB + D after the third hit for a HUGE fake out, and go right for the grab DM. (HCB x2 + C)

Oh, if you want one useful thing for Malin. If you have 4 stocks, and you connect with your LDM, and the opponent doesn't safe roll out of it, you can hit another one while they're on the floor for a instant kill from full health. Her BnB does pretty decent damage too.

Kasumi is ok now that I've tried a few things, but still she's far from her '99 abilities, she was god-like there.

Didn't knew the LDM trick with Malin, I'll try this next time for sure, instant kill is always funny...especially when you're losing.

And well, today I gave up on Elizabeth...I'll never ever touch her again, she's tottaly useless, she has a nice combo with......ok, don't remember, but it's her sliding punch x2 and DM and that's it, she should be banned from KOF forever.
Kill her and bring back my Leona or Vice.

Well she has a grab DM, that sliding punch goes under A LOT of moves, and grabs, she has good damage on her BnB combos. I don't think she's TOTALLY useless, but certainly not someone I would use seriously.

Blame Sony Computer Entertainment America for that one. They have that "policy" where 2D games can only be released on PS2 if their bundled with another 2D game for the same price as a 3D game, or $20 for a single 2D game. SNK would lose alot of revenue if they brought out everything here. Of course, it doesn't help that SCEA is a bunch of greedy pricks that think they know exactly what gamers want.

And that is why Nintendo have no problem welcoming the old school back to their nintendo wii...from what i've heard.

I agree. I'm most looking forward to the Wii and it's classic downloadable games.

Also, don't expect any 2D games on PS3 either. Apparently SCEA wants to ban all 2D games form PS3 regardless. All that horsepower, might as well use it, right?

Quick question to anyone who genuinely owns the game here...does the game have very long loading times, and/or music cutting in and out? I have a burned copy of the game, and it seems to have these problems, so i'm hoping the original game doesn't, because i'd like to purchase it this week.

Nope, it runs perfectly fine. Seems you got a very bad copy there, because I also have a copy that works just as good.

In the end, its not like the PS3 left any impressions (but mgs4 and the features). Only now, there was a little announcement saying that SNK-Playmore will have something to do with PS3 starting sometime in 2009 (long time u.u)

I only hope snk-playmore has something up their sleeve cause they can do alot with enhancing the sprites;making it look kinda realistic but still in 2d format. Atomiswave needs to step in.