Opera 9.00 Final released
 

http://www.opera.com/download/

If you already use Opera 8, you can just install it in your current Opera folder (all your settings will be saved).

New features:

Okay, this is shit. By default, it automatically opens torrents in Opera, and doesn't even give you the option to use an external program. You'll probably want to turn this shit off by going to opera:config and unchecking the bittorrent Enable box.

I'm not sure how useful this is, but it doesn't bother me either.

Cool.

Well, I guess this is pretty useful. I don't know if I'll use it a lot, but many people probably will.

A++.

:confused:

I personally think widgets are mostly useless, but maybe you cool indie hipster dudes from Post Your Desktop will like it. For those that use pandora.com, there is a widget for it, but it's a bit buggy so far.

Who use Opera anyway =D? I still think FF is better =) Not because everyone say so but cause I'm using it and I love it =D

Go GO!! :kitsune:

I use Opera cause I can't stand FF memory usage.

Is it really that much? I'm using FF at work and I have Celeron 133 with 128 RAM here. Can't say it's slow or anything. Never had problems with this =).

I don't use Firefox because it's been known to suck 500+ MB of RAM whenever I use it. This is probably due to how I tend to have 30 tabs or more open at any given point with large histories, but I still expect it not to die every time this happens with Out of Memory errors (SessionSaver was not an option for me).

I've got 27 tabs open right now and Opera's still chugging along fine. But yay for 9 being final. I've been using the Preview 2 for some time, but version bumps are fun.

* Torrents in Opera got nuked faster than you can shake a stick at them.
* Tab thumbnails, I've honestly never used.
* Didn't use that searchengine thing, but that's pretty cool.
* Content blocker never gets used by me, but I run the squid/adzapper combo (Linux only, pretty much), so Opera doesn't even know of the ads it nuked.
* Site preferences rock for those pesky sites that block non-IE users.
* The new rich text editor... huh? I just have it sending source and such to gvim.

Yay for Opera.

Yeah, Firefox's retarded RAM usage is pushing me towards Opera (the memory flush on minimize trick apparently doesn't work well for me... memory usage climbs back up to 300+ MB a few seconds after minimizing the FF window).

One thing I noticed about Opera: it actually copies URLs in the proper encoding (no more jumbled Asian characters in Flashget, yay!)

There's still one feature sorely lacking though -- search keyword buttons like the ones found on Googlebar. I want my search terms to be automatically split into individual buttons on the toolbar which I can then click to search for that particular keyword on the page, instead of having to type them again.

FF is a RAMtard yet Opera's the browser that can't display gifs properly and usually crashes trying to load embedded video.

naw dog, there are no problems with gifs. I don't know about embedded video, since I'm not a huge fan of myspace. sites like youtube and google video work fine, tho.

No problems in v9 or no problems in general? Because from my experience, Opera does not read gif framerates properly. It displays them too slow.

Finally, Opera 9 final is out. Thankfully, it has now remembered that I told it--long ago--to open my home page every time I open the browser. (I finally have enough incentive to start using it as my main browser.)
There seemed to be a bug with the preview (beta) releases where it didn't seem to save that setting correctly.

I downloaded this to serve as my "work" browser, because of weird proxy settings that are required to browse at work now, so I figured instead of changing my proxy settings in firefox twice a day, this would be a nice way of trying out Opera. So far the biggest issue I have with it is that Shift+Left Click opens links in new tabs, which is not nearly as comfortable as firefox's Ctrl+Left Click. Because I'm running on a laptop, using the touchpad and keyboard, this is important to me, and the Ctrl button is in a perfect spot for my pinky to rest while I am running the touchpad, the shift key on that side is uncomfortable to reach. So naturally it is time to play around with it and see if that can be modified.

Why is that?

Because I use this laptop both at home and at work. So change proxy settings when I get in to work each morning, and when I get home from work each evening.

Ah very cool. This browser has torrent support as well. and the best of all, it's free. :) I need alternative when FF crashed (a lot)

Sorry, what is the real difference between english and international version? language pack? java-support?

Yes, but the torrent support is quite annoying--I have a torrent client for a reason. (I wish it were turned off by default, but oh well.)

The international version probably contains a multitude of languages. It has nothing to do with Java support.

I'd maybe use Opera if firefox crashed alot on me or used alot of my RAM or had some feature I wanted that I couldn't do in firefox, but it doesn't, so I'm fine. Opera supposedly renders pages faster, though I can live without it.

So I am curious as Pom and now OP like Opera a whole lot, what makes it better than Firefox? I used to be a big Opera user back in the day but then switched to Mozilla/Firefox. Please enlighten me how it is now better.

Probably the torrent support and less ram usage compared to firefox is make opera usable as alternative of firefox, especially when the time the firefox crashes. The loading time is also much faster because Opera access the cache first, though it would be little problem if you want to update some pages, like your gamingforce control panel, you must hit the refresh button first before you could see the updated subcribed threads.

I honestly only using opera to browse because it doesnt have support for flashget shamelessly. =(

I only use flashget with IE. I've never found the Firefox plugin for flashget to be very good. It never let me do save all to flashget in FF. Why else would you use flashget besides resuming downloads and large file downloads?

Also, the idea of having bittorrent integrated into a browser is pretty lol since bittorrent sucks up most of your bandwidth therefore nullifying your ability to browse. At least it does on my shitty DSL connection over here. Not like anyone would use that thing over a good client like BitLord, Azureus, or µTorrent.

Or rtorrent, for that matter. I would use it if I was completely lacking a client (or otherwise unable to install one), but the configuration options are sorely limited.

And Cal, those work fine for me. I have GIF animation disabled on most sites because it's annoying, but where I do allow it, they work fine. Also, embedded video as in what, YouTube? That works fine, and I can view pretty much any video format directly by use of mplayerplug-in. I've been using it since 8.51, and it's never really been an issue.

Beyond that, I just like in Opera I didn't need to install ten different extensions to get it to do what I want. Here, everything was builtin, save adblocking which I needed squid for, but that was easy enough.

I use it for mouse gestures and the cool little built-in notepad (very useful, but often overlooked feature).

It is also much more easily customizable (visually), and I can make my bookmarks look like favicons and put them at the bottom of the window

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7446/bookmark3xo.png).

Also, the built-in download manager is better, since (a) it doesn't take up a seperate window, and (b) it actually lets you resume downloads.

Also, it keeps recent pages in the cache, so the page isn't automatically reloaded every time I click Back, which is very convenient.

Also, it automatically saves the current session, so if I close the browser, the next time it will automatically open all the sites I had open before.

Other than that, I have used Opera for four years now. It had all the cool features before Firefox kind-of borrowed them. Either way, I see no reason to switch, especially since Firefox is slower and clunkier.

Firefox does do some things better than Opera, but generally it's simply not as good a browser, its creators were just better at marketing.

How did you get your icons to do that, Aard?

Just drag the site from bookmarks to the status bar. Then right click on it > Customize, and choose Style > Images Only.

Also, I forgot to mention, being able to hold down the right mouse button and click the left one to move Back (vice versa to go Forward) is the most useful mouse gesture ever, and once you get used to it, you'll never want to use another method.

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Oh, one more thing, if you accidentally close a page, you can just choose Undo to open it back up. Very useful, especially if you don't have that site bookmarked.

Yeah, I just went and upgraded my Opera. I completely forgot I even had it on my system. Anyway, yeah gifs still play way too slow in Opera. It's ridiculous. If they'd just fix that I'd use it a lot more. This confuses me greatly because I know Pom loves gif threads so I'm unsure of how he puts up with it.

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Also, I've noticed that the thumbnails aren't live. If I scroll up in one of them then go to another tab it will still show the thumbnail of where I was when I first viewed a thumbnail of that tab. Kind of a bummer.

So the animated GIFs really do play too slow? I never noticed, I guess it's not really one of my priorities. To each his or her own, I suppose!

Yeah, that or Firefox plays them too fast which I don't think is the case.

Oh here's a question. Let's say I open a whole mess of tabs. I'm currently viewing the first one. Then I click on tab, oh say tab 26. I then decide to close tab 26. It then makes me go all the way back to the first tab. When I close tab 26 I want it to go to the next tab which would be tab 25. This is what Firefox always does. How do I make Opera do this?

You can't, as far as I know. I personally think that it makes more sense for it to switch to the last viewed tab anyway. Well, it's just a question of habit, but I guess it would be good to have the Firefox way as an option, for people who are just switching and aren't used to the way Opera does it. But, yeah, I don't think it's possible to set it like that.

Well, I always open tabs in the background. Here's a scenario:

1st tab: User CP
2nd tab through 9th: threads I subscribe to that I've opened via User CP in 1st tab.

I then go and read tab 9. When I'm done I'll close it. It goes back to the first tab which is annoying as fuck. I want it to go to tab 8. So now instead of my usual way of safely closing the current tab I'm on assuring I am done with it and gotten what I've needed I now have to click on the tab next door and risk missing something should I accidently misclick 2 tabs over and not noticing (and when you get a lot of tabs this will happen) and when I think I'm through massively close all the tabs. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can see the use of the current style of going to the last viewed tab but it should be an option.

I agree that it should be an option, but, as I said, I think it's mostly a question of habit. I don't think it really makes much of a difference either way. By the way, you can also hold down the right mouse button and use the mouse-wheel to scroll between pages more easily.

Heh, I forgot about that feature. Good ol' ctrl+Tab. However that doesn't solve my current dilemma. You're right that it is a habit but it's one that really works for me and both Firefox and IE7 Beta 2 do. That leaves Opera as the odd man out. That's not really in its favor because I'm guessing most Firefox users browse their tabs similarly in the fashion that I do.

When I used Firefox, I always liked being able to switch back to the last tab I had viewed. I think there was an extension I used for this, but anyways. A question for Aard or anyone who knows:

Is there any simple way to get a site bookmarked and have it appear in the personal bar without ticking that "Show on Personalbar" option (which also requires clicking the "Advanced" button to show it)? Curious, since I really hate that I can't make it just draw all my bookmarks.

One of the small little quirks, I suppose.

That's pretty easy, in fact.
Drag the tab of the site you want to your personal bar and it will be there. :)

As for this release, I'm more than happy with it. They fixed several stability issues I had with the betas.

Does anyone have problems with the new version "freezing"? From time to time pages stop loading and I have to restart Opera to work again. I didn't have this with earlier versions.

For some very very strange reason Opera 9 runs with a huge CPU load as compared to Firefox on my computer. I have a dual core system, and opera takes up at least one full core at 100% even whilst sitting there on a page with nothing more than text. Does anyone have any idea why it is running in this manner?

I stopped using Opera (v8) before the advent of Youtube and Google Video, but it tended to freeze up beyond recovery on loading WMV content. I suppose a RAM problem on my end could've been the culprit, but I don't know.

I have never had problems with FireFox's ram useage. But then again, I have never had more than three tabs open at once. There's no excuse for anybody to have 20+ tabs open. What exactly are you doing?

Anyway, I'm giving this a try, because I am very bored. Maybe I'll end up liking it.

Edit: The bookmarks manager won't let me change the order of my bookmarks. How lame!
Edit: Phew, fixed it. That was lame though.

This isn't so bad, but I'm starting to miss my Skypilot skin.

Opening a ton of links on imageboards. Opening tons of threads. You can use new tabs for these and many more reasons and have a shit ton of tabs open. There are reasons.

Well, I guess each person has their own browsing habits, but I only open one thread at a time, and don't surf on imageboards.

I just can't dig Opera's interface. I'm far too used to Firefox, the way it works, and the way it looks. I've never had any problems whatsoever, so I uninstalled Opera. Oh well.

Yeah, if Opera had an option for Firefox tab closing order and good support for gif animation then I might use it. I just can't see that happening until those things are fixed.

I'll definitely use it for Wii though. =)

There will be Opera for Wii?

I think he means Nintendo DS?

I don't know if you think so. :confused:

are you confused about the question mark? That was a typo as I rewrote what I had previously typed, and forgot to delete the "?"

Downloaded it and works like a charm, mostly. I still don't get why Opera freezes for 10 sec. whenever I get to a site with Flash, though.

Opera will be for Wii and DS as announced on their site.

Indeed! =)

http://www.opera.com/products/devices/

Wii and DS. Good job, Hao. =)

This used to happen to me as well, but when I upgraded to a newer version it simply stopped happening.

As for the GIF's, I've found that the first time through they go slowly, but after that they play at a normal speed.

I’ve been using Opera for a while and I prefer it over FF, no big reasons why I just like using Opera more. I do have a question about version 9 final, this may seem like a stupid question but here goes: I’m currently using version 9 beta. When I install version 9 final it installed over my old version 8.54. Now, I have a good deal of bookmarks, skins, customizations, etc. on my 9 beta that I did not have on my 8.54 version. So my question is: is there any way to have Oprea 9 final install over the beta and keep all my old setting skins etc. or do I have to redo all the customization I did to the beta on the final?

So far so good for me in Linux. One little issue for me, however, is the language they use to describe actions for defining mouse gestures. I spent about five minutes looking for their version of Next Tab/Previous Tab which turned out to be "Switch to Next/Previous Page." I guess that just comes with the territory.

Oh, and I can't seem to do Alt-S to post my reply.

Edit: Heh, I guess it can fool certain websites. Check out my College's Intranet in Opera, then set it to identify as Mozilla or Internet Explorer and try again.

Well, all Identifying does is change the UAS from Opera's to the other browser, and appends "Opera" to the end. Opera 9 includes new functionality that <=8 lacked called Masking. This does the same as an Identify, but it removes the appended identifier. You do know Opera's had the Identify functionality for a long time, though, right?

I have another issue with the Linux one that really vexes me, though. That is, it seems to forget my preferences some of the time. I'll have BT disabled and the colours changed, but when I fire up Opera, on occasion it has a brain cramp and resets my BitTorrent setting--heck, sometimes even my theme changes. Amazingly, Opera 9 Preview 2 didn't have this issue.

Well, that's why it isn't marked stable yet (under Gentoo). Heck, I just noticed that my bookmarks keep moving around. Also, is anyone else unable to see some of the images on Kotaku?

It is? I guess that'd explain some of my problems then, since I run ~x86. My bookmarks stay in the proper spot, but I seem to have resolved my profile problems. Make sure everything's got proper permissions, since I had a file in there that had no permission bits at all.

Kotaku does have the same image problem on my end as well.