Replaying the Lunar series again.
 

I was looking at these box sets the other day and decided that I wanted to give these 2 games another playthrough again. I am talking about the two remakes on the PS1 which were translated by Working Designs.

There are many reasons that contribute to why I love these games so much. Most people tend to hate on Working Designs localizations because of their American style. I personally love it, and I have found myself talking to every NPC in town and every animal or object in town, just because they all always have something funny or interesting to say. Hell, there was one NPC right outside the Magic city of Vane asking how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop. Talk to him again and he asks why M&MS melt in your mouth and not in your hand. ^^ Sometimes Working Designs can go a little too far though. I still love the main storyline now, but it seems a bit more cheesy then it was before. Probably because I was a lot younger when I originally played in 1998. Luna's boat song is still amazing and makes me wish they did more scenes like this in new RPGs. ; ;

I can't wait to finish this one and move on to Lunar 2. The game seemed like a mjaor improvement over the first. The story was better. It had another awesome cast of characters. The game was made much more difficult than the first (last boss is mean) and 15-30 hours longer. The battle themes were much better in this one as well. It was also neat being able to revisit locations from the original to see how they're doing 2000 years later. When I beat the game before, I never played the extra end game stuff after seeing the sad ending. CS told me its awesome and worth seeing the true ending, so I can take care of that my next playthrough.

Who else loved the lunar games and why? Do you prefer the original Sega CD versions to the remakes? We should get everyone to replay these games this summer. ^_^

The only Sega CD Lunar I played was Eternal Blue, and I just remember all the changes WD making being for the better.

EB on the SCD was hard to the point of melting your brain. Some of the boss fights in that game were beyond any sort of realistic or fun challenge. This is ESPECIALLY true for Borgan. Fuck that guy. And don't get me started on the points stuff.

But I agree with you, everything about EB is better than it SSS. Music, characters, story, length. You name it, EB had improved on it. And yeah, it's a shame you didn't do the epilogue before. The regular ending is good, but the true ending wraps things up so well and is just something worth seeing. There is a fair bit of content in that too, and the Star Dragon has a fucking AWESOME bit of music. <3

I need to actually purchase SSSC though. I don't own it. ;_;

I only have Lunar 2: EB for PSX. It's fun nostagic game to play with cute sprites. The turn based battles give a nice slower change of pace just for you to enjoy the battle instead of getting all caught up with speed. I haven't played the original sega versions, but I'm more than happy with the PSX versions. Also, I saw a used copy of Lunar 1: SSSC for $30 (game with jewel case but no instructions and no special stuff), so I hesitated and didn't pick it up, damn damn damn.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lunar-Silver-Sta...QQcmdZViewItem

Wow. This must be that fan version that came out. The CD art is totally different, and it has a normal sized manual. =O

Interestingly, the copy I saw on sale at EB games had the sword cover art instead of the collage. Unless perhaps they lost the proper jewel case cover and used the instruction book as the cover. >_>

I love the Lunar games. I've played the first one so many times but my brother lost the first disc of Lunar 2 so I've only played it once through. I liked the first one better, I'm not sure why. It had a certain je ne sais quoi quality to it. The boat song is one of the best movies but I think the one with Kyle in drag is my favourite. I still haven't been able to find all the bromides :(

Yeah, that's the limited reprint that was released after demand for it became high enough.

How do you mean that?

Nall had a pretty stupid voice, though. I imagined her (him?) to sound like Tom Waits, but then she actually starts speaking and sounds like a five year old girl. I was nonplussed.

It's a masturbation joke, Aard. Choke the chicken. It's rather subtle though, and a lot of people miss it. So 'eh.

Nall was a tiny baby though, so his voice sort of makes sense considering how small he is. Like a cartoon character. I think it suits him fine.

Silver Star Story and Eternal Blue (PSX) were two of the first non-Square RPGs I played and I loved them. I haven't played the latest iteration on DS yet. Those games, though, were magical. I never played the Sega CD versions. I loved the games, but it's been so long since I've played it. It may be worth it for me to replay them again at some point. Also, I only have CD-R copies of it. I feel I should try to get the originals at some point too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8374%26fvi%3D1

God I suck. ;___;

BWAHAHAH ;D I still have the full box and EVERYTHING to Lunar SSS & EB for the Sega CD as well as the original box collections of SSSC & EBC for PS1.

The originals were still quite nice. The PS1 version changed...


Lunar 2 originally had Experience Points for Levels and Magic Points for skills and what-not. You pool Magic Points into one big amount and it is subtracted as you upgraded/learnt knew skills. Also used a little bit of it to save. But I believe you could save anywhere and didn't need a save point. Just magic points.

Well I have the full EB as well, the reason that's so expensive (and why I bought a second copy) is because it's signed by Mr. Ireland.

I felt the first one was far better than the second. I still cry at the ending to the first game. It's so beautiful how much Alex loves Luna. *is a softy*

The best masturbation joke was in the cave with Kyle XD

*lights go out*
Kyle: "Ah I'm blind! I didn't think that myth was true!"
Mia: "What myth?"
Nash: "You don't want to know..."

I didn't like Lucia at all, hence why I don't care for Eternal Blue. I had no emotional attachment to her at all.

o shit~

Pictures don't show the autograph :( Hmm

Because he hasn't signed it yet. It's up to you if you want him to sign it or not.

Why would anyone want a copy that wasn't signed is beyond me though.

And yes, before you mention it, I confirmed it was him. I asked him for proof and he sent me an email from his working designs account.

I will take pictures when it gets here.

Lucia's pendant is really fricken heavy. But damn the thing is cool to wear. Though the original band was really cheap, so go get yourself a cool "gold-by-the-inch" chain (if you know somebody from Hawaii, there are stores that make this) and have it attached to the pendant.

Now THAT is ultra cool. ^^

Hold on.

You wore it?

I liked the first one better as well, but they were both probably my second and third favorite PSX games of all time (right after Final Fantasy Tactics). I still have the full sets of both versions (well, technically they're my sister's), but I haven't played either of them in a long while (nor have I ever played the original Sega CD versions). I know I played both of them at least twice back in the PSX days, though.

But yeah, I liked the first game better, mainly because I felt that the characters and story were better than in the second game. The only main characters that I really liked in the second game were Ronfar and Leo (especially when he was Mystere), but that's not to say that the game's characters and story overall weren't good.

Gameplay-wise though, Lunar 2 probably was a little bit better. However, they both have one feature that I fucking love, and one that more RPGs should have: the ability to use two controllers. I play most RPGs with my sister, so it's a hassle to have to switch the controller back and forth every time. But this game rocked for letting you be able to use both controllers to play the game, meaning no need to keep switching off.

I doubt I'll be playing these games anytime soon, but I probably will sometime in the future. They're both great games, and everyone should play them at least once.

Well...! If that's not awesome, then I just don't know what else to call it. I didn't even know that expression.

I have come down from the Blue Star to decimate your ass.

Translation: Yes. I am wearing it right now as a matter of fact. I'm a sucker for VG necklaces. It gets attention. Of course, given the size of it...

Sir VG is wearing the pendant from the Lunar: EB box set. Heh. Heh heh.

Much <3 for the Lunar series, even if it hasn't aged too well. Silver Star Story Complete was a vast improvement over the original; I played the Sega CD original recently, and nostalgia did not serve me well there. Smart-assed Nall was awesome, though. They should never have homogenized him in the remake.

Too bad they couldn't reuse the old soundtrack, the one thing the Sega CD version has over the PSX remake. That may be the fault of a crappy port, though, as the remake was originally a Saturn game. I've heard a couple isolated exerpts, and the Saturn audio is way better; I suspect they were just using generic music drivers on the PSX version.

Eternal Blue still winds up better than the first game either way, though. I slightly prefer the original game (again, partly for soundtrack reasons), unbeatable Borgan aside, but the remake is so close it's a middling little difference. You need to play the first game for context, but you're really playing for the second game. My brother still likes to pull the Mystere routine with his paladin in Wow, it's hilarious.

If for nothing else, you have to love the games for John Truitt's performance as Ghaleon. I don't think anybody can ham it up and still sound genuinely sinister like he did.

IIRC, that went:

Kyle: AAAH! I'm blind! But I thought that was only a myth!
Nall: What are you talking about, Kyle? The entire cave went dark.
Jessica: Trust me, Nall, you DON'T want to know what he's talking about.

The games were full of innuendos like that. Some truly dropped my jaw.

"Have you tried our world-famous fudge? It tastes best when it's freshly packed!"

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As soundtracks go, I liked the second better than the first as it had an overall darker and more mysterious tone (namely in areas like the first trip to the Blue Spire, and then the final dungeon). The whole game was quite a bit darker and more mature in its story and tone than the first.

The Lunar games were my favourite Playstation RPGs before I discovered Persona 2. It's odd, since they're so uber-tradtional and play so straight by old rules, but I think it's because they're traditional done oh-so-right. They may not have included any innovative systems/minigames/items/etc, but they took a formula that worked, amped up the production values to an insane level, and ran with it. I'll never sell my Lunar games. Ever. And when the discs no longer play nice with my consoles, I'll CloneCD them and play them on ePSXe till the cows come home.

*moo*

O SNAP.

I soo love SS and EB. I also have "magic school" but since i don't know japanese, i can't understand anything. What I like the most of both games are the voice acting. Specially Chad Letts's and John Truitt's voices.

Question: How many voice acted games from Working Desings have outtakes like this? Both Lunars, Magic Knight Rayearth....

Like 10 years ago (or so) I ripped the "Outakes" from Eternal Blue (PSX). I'll post them here if anyone is interested (don't expect VBR and stuff).
I found Chad Letts's (Hiro) and Jennifer Stigile's (Jean) outtakes to be sooo funny..

Download Outtakes


Ruby?, Ruby, RUBY DAMMIT!!, Ruby?...

PS: Lunn sounds soo gay...

Lunar: The Silver Star on the SegaCD was my first console RPG ever, so it will always hold a special place in my mind, and it's why the PSX and SegaCD Lunar games are amonst my all time favorites.

I agree with Monkey King in that the soundtrack in the PSX version of SSSC didn't sound as good as the original the SegaCD version. I hated how many of my favorite songs weren't even remixed in SSSC, and instead had been completely re-done to the point where they sounded so much more generic. But it was still a great game to play since the story had changed so much from the original, it was like playing an entire new game with a cast of familar faces.

Lunar: EBC on the PSX was also MUCH more enjoyable than the SegaCD original. When folks tell you that Borgan in the SegaCD version was quite possibly harder than the final boss, they aren't kidding. Heck, in the SegaCD version Ruby even mentions after you beat the final boss's first form of how the fight was easier than Borgan! Was it just me, or were the enemies in the SegaCD version of EB always harder than your party's max level for an area?

I loved how they kept the original soundtrack, but spiced it up for EBC. I still enjoy listening to the soundtrack for EBC every now and then, especially the final battle music.

I still own both the SegaCD versions and the complete box sets of the PSX versions, and I'm glad I got them when I did since they're so hard to find now, and go for more than their MSRP was when they were originally released.

Bweeheehee. I still have both of my COMPLETE editions for SSS and EB, but alas I do not have the original Sega games. Such is life, I suppose.

Anyway I've played through both games 2 or more times each. I tend to play them during droughts of game releases, but it looks like I won't be playing them again for a good while, at least according to my pre-order list.

I played through SSSC on PSX and am about 15 hours into EB on PSX. I don't know what it is about the second game, but so far it seems simply derivative and not as good as the first. Although, it is still a solid title. Perhaps I will enjoy it more towards the middle/end.

I played through the first Lunar on the PS1, and I wasn't too happy with it. It's your old cliché RPG story, and even though it had some nice characters, it really didn't interest me that much. The translation really didn't help either, it just felt forced at some moments, and made everyone look like a bunch of idiots. As for the gameplay, there wasn't anything to do besides the battles, so it really bored me. I didn't have too much complaints about the battles in the beginning, since they were rather challenging, but after that they bored the hell out of me, since you could easy use the auto option for every single battle, something that I used a lot, while studying some of the more simpler stuff. In the end, I just think that the game bored me because it was too classic, maybe if it had been one of my first RPGs, I'd have appreciated it more.

Well, define "first RPGs". I started back in the NES days and played this on Sega CD initially then on PS1. Love them to death and still do. Was hardly one of my first RPGs.

Nothing to do other than battles? Just described virtually every RPG pre-dating the PS1 =p With a few exceptions, but not terribly many. Meh. It's your opinion, not trying to attack it. Just haven't seen terribly many folks unpleased with these two Lunar games.

I have only played my first Lunar game a few months ago, where as I've played a ton of RPG's before that, some good, and some bad. I've just seen all the typical clichés before, which is why Lunar's story just bored me since it wasn't original. If it had been one of the first RPG's I played, I wouldn't even know that the story was one big cliché; and I would have probably liked the game.

Also, I hardly played any SNES or NES RPGs, except for the mainstream titles, so minigames and sidequests are just something that I kinda expect out of a game.

I'm inclined to agree with Gechmir. I've hardly heard of anyone displeased with the two Lunar games (not including Lunar DS or Magic School Lunar OR the GBA re-release of Lunar 1) on either their original Sega platform or on the PSone.

Sure, it's a pretty traditional game with a pretty traditional storyline, but it's presentation is done so well it's hard to imagine the games being conceived of as "bad." But I suppose if someone doesn't like them, it's their choice.

Personally, I'm a bigger fan of Lunar: EB than I was of SSS. EB's main storyline was still focused around the hero and his relationship with her, and had the game ended with that then I would've liked SSS more. However, it was EB's Epilogue quest that makes me put it above it's predecessor. Going back and recruiting all of your party members (and thereby learning more about them and their pasts) for one final push toward a different goal gave me a much deeper sense for the characters. If SSS lacked one thing, it was the solid development of the other characters. Nash, Mia, Jessica, Alex, Kyle, even Luna -- to a point, they were defined not as individuals but by their relationships. It became Jessica & Kyle, Nash & Mia. Alex and Luna were the only characters to get any solid individual development.

Oh well, I've gone on way longer than I wanted to.

I've only got the remake of Lunar 1, Lunar Legend on the GBA and Lunar 2 Eternal Blue. I never really heard of them untill a few years ago. Back when they came out I wasn't as big of an RPG player that I am today. I just found Lunar Legend at a flea market and chanced on EB at a gamestop a few months ago really. From what I have played on LL, it is very generic as an RPG but the characters are the real driving force behind the game. I feel like I'm missing out on quite a bit on the GBA like not hear the real singing from Luna. I don't know how it was on the PSX but the earth song in that town where the blue dragon was pretty lame after all the NPCs saying that it was what they needed for a festivle or something.

Eternal Blue has been a very entertaining game but that first boss was way to hard for a starting boss. I really haven't gotten far but it's looking really good so far.

Heh, if you're getting raped by the statues you're not going to have a fun time down the road.

Oh, dude-- the last boss, man. If this is how you start, you're gonna get fucking raped.

As I recall, the first boss is a bit harder than what you face later on, just because you have less to work with. Just remember to keep Hiro and Gwyn separated, and defend when Hiro needs healing. This is one of the few parts in the game where levelling up might be necessary (Lucia comes in handy at that!) You DID buy all of Gwyn's spells, didn't you?

Hay, I own factory sealed copies of Lunar 1+2 for the Sega CD. Yeah, I love the Lunar series. How depressing that the chances of a real Lunar 3 are almost nil, and that the chances of it even being good should it ever come out are just as bad. Dragon Song pretty much clinches that the series was better off dying at 2.

With how RPGs have been lately, another Lunar game would only suck. Suiko V (Maybe DQ8 too) was the only good sequel-RPG on the PS2 in my honest opinion. The industry hasn't "wow'd" me enough. I'm perfectly happy with Lunar being dead-and-stinking in the water. The last attempt that was made on the title was for the DS. And it didn't do well at all. Was a miserable game I hear.

No offense, but that pretty much just reinstated exactly what I said. But thanks anyway. (Dragon Song was the DS game BTW which is why I mentioned it) ;)

I'm well past that part now. I now have Ronfar and just got off of Leo's Battle ship. What do you mean by buying spells? I thought you just got them through level ups.

I really want to play Dragon Song. I've been playing the Lunar series close to ever since it came out, and it is one of my most favorite RPG's ever. It was way ahead of it's time when it came out, graphic and music wise. And it had the greatest quotes ever. The only game that came close to it's humor was Tales of Phantasia, whenever Arche was involved with anything.

The only thing I didn't like about the Lunar games as of date is the music in the PSX version of Lunar Silver Star. I think they really ruined it from the Sega version, especially Meribia's Theme. Meribia was my 2nd favorite theme song, but when I heard the PSX version of it, I was dissapointed.

Can I get some opinions for Dragon Song, trying to decide when to get it.

You mistook my post. I was agreeing with you and stating my own opinion on why I agreed.

I see, I see. It was hard to tell. I'm used to people posting immediately after me and basically not even reading what I wrote in the process and thereby saying the same exact thing I said and pretending someone didn't say it before they did. (whee, run on sentence)

My mistake. It just irritates me when people do that and it's what I figured you did. Sorry about that.

Also, to the above poster; you got two opinions on dragon song already. It sucks. I don't think you'll find many disagreeing opinions.

I've watched my sister play it, and Dragon Song doesn't seem to be that bad. It sucks compared to the other Lunar games, and probably compared to a lot of other RPGs as well, but it doesn't seem to be so bad to the point that it doesn't warrant being played at all. I definitely wouldn't buy it at its current price ($30, down from $40), but I would consider getting it for like $10 or so.

I don't think it sucks. I would say it's mediocre, but I could see someone liking it.

Though the only aspect anyone will say they enjoy is the music, which is pretty good.

The two main Lunar games are two of my all time favorite games. The first Lunar on the Sega CD was my first RPG and because of it I bought every WD game released for the system (Vay, Popful Mail, EB). EB is tied for my favorite game of all time. I loved the Sega CD versions, and I loved the remakes for nostalgia reasons.
Heck, I originally painted my dorm room in a Lunar 2 motif:

Lunar door
Lunar wall

As a challenge, I even went through the entire game of L:SS in one day/sitting.

So yes I loved these games!

But...

I also realize I love them for nostalgia reasons. They remind me of the good times I had as a youth and were essentially my introduction to RPGs. I see that they can be called cliche, although I believe they were the originators of the cliche since every game that resembles them was released later (what pre-1994 RPGs were like this?). And alot of the features introduced in the series are now commonplace in console RPGs (anime/CG cutscenes, voice acting, "pop" song themes, epilogues), but back then I remember them being completely mindblowing and unlike anything I had ever seen. If a game like Lunar came out now it probably wouldn't be impressive. Grandia 2 proves this for me, it was very similar and yet to me is was pretty ho-hum.

A part of me wishes for a Lunar 3 just so I can remember the games of my youth. But then a part of me doesn't want a Lunar 3 because it could disappoint me, much like the fans who grew up on the original Star Wars are disappointed by the prequels.

BTW: a great challenge in L:EB (both ver.) is to kill the green shiros in the ice area, they pretty much level you up for each kill. That made the last boss so much easier. Also, I think the bosses' levels were based on the main characters levels, so if you make the main character run away and level everyone else up 10+ levels the bosees get easier. That may be the Sega CD versions though...

Jesus fucking Christ, that's pretty hardcore. Please tell me you don't have Lucia's Pendant tatooed onto your arm or something.

Anyway, I'm not sure if enemies are based on Hiro's level. Enemy levels were tinkered with weirdly when they got rid of Pressure Cooker and all.

Enemies were never based off of Hiro's level. Only the bosses were in order to keep them somewhat challenging. Of course just not leveling up Hiro or Alex allowed you to avoid this. But having them higher level than the rest of your party may put you at a slight disadvantage.

I came across the intro to the original Sega CD version which I haven't seen before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1BNr...ar%20sega%20cd

Why is the intro song so much more cooler than the remakes? ;____;

Haha, I always wondered why that song was on the soundtrack even though I never heard it in the game (I'm talking about the remake, of course). That song was pretty cool (though I still like the one used in the remake more, probably because I'm just used to it), but I can't say I liked the animation as much (it seemed like it had too many spoilers in it, even more than the remake's intro).

Eh, I liked the SSSC opening a lot better than the Sega-CD. I admit the Sega-CD one was more of a "oh my god" kind of thing back when I first saw it, though. I got the game when it first came out and had never had any experience with the PC engine so it was my first experience with a CD based game/console. It was pretty awesome but it doesn't fit in with the theme of the game at all whereas the remake opening felt like 'Lunar'.

After playing SSSC I could never replay the original Lunar. The remake just completely tears it apart in every regard.

SIGNED LUNAR UPDATE.

Well, it seems I have found out why Working Designs went under. Vic takes forever to do anything for anyone who wants to give him money! It's been 2 weeks since that auction closed and I haven't seen an email from him since that night. I also haven't seen the item or gotten any confirmation of anything.

So I opened a paypal dispute. Man, it's depressing when you have to open such a thing with one of your favorite game writers. =\

Wait what? What happened between you and Vic?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...8374%26fvi%3D1

I guess Victor Ireland was the seller, and he hasn't received any response to his winning bid.

I bought a signed copy of Lunar 2 that he was selling on eBay, after a fair bit of email correspondance on the night of the sale, he has not since replied to any of the emails I've sent him.

I've asked for nothing but a simple confirmation from him that the item was shipped, or that he's even recieved the paypal payment. All I did was try to determine what was going on with the transaction, and he has not responded at all.

So here I am out about 190 canuck bucks with nothing to show for it, and I'm unable to get ahold of him. So I had to open a paypal dispute. As much as I like Vic, I also like my money. So I don't want to just throw it away, see.

Edit: What Generic said, basically. Yeah.

Update:

It seems opening a dispute was the trick needed to get Vic to respond. He apologized and is sending a bonus, a sealed Lunar SSSC demo disc. A nice thing for him to do.

I have the shipping tracking number now, and it's being shipped EMS so with luck i'll be here by Friday. (*excited*)

He should've SIGNED IT TOO >8U Nice that he kept up with it. Figured he'd have a lot of free time since WD went under... =p

Well, I told him to sign it. So if it arrives and it's not signed I'm going to throw a large fit.

Meant the demo =D Should've signed it as well. Extrabux~

Turns out I have to buy a new copy of Lunar 2. I finished the first and started playing the second game today. A few years ago my niece got into my gaming collection and trashed a few of them. Lunar 2 was one of the games she scratched up. Anyway, the game runs fine until the part right before Lucia gets zapped and loses her abilities. Then it crashes.

My copy is officially ruined. ;___;

Why don't you go get the scratches buffed out? If there's a Game Crazy near you, I know they fix discs up for two bucks or something.

Sure as shit'd be cheaper than buying the game again.

Game Crazy? I've never seen one before in my life. I don't think they exist anywhere near me. Maybe I can see if GameStop can do it.

Well, if you have a Hollywood Video in your area, you most likely have a Game Crazy as well, as that's just what they call their video game section now. It usually has its own section separate from the store, but still inside the store, if that makes any sense.

Heh, getting scratches buffed out rarely works unless the scratch is extremely superficial. In my entire life I've had....maybe 3 or 4 discs ruined by various people, and resurfacing has NEVER worked. So not a LOT of experience with it but enough to make me believe it
ll hardly work.

Hopefully it will for you though Miles.

Also, shit, yeah Gech, you're right. Damn. Shoulda thought of that.

Are you talking about a cleaning with one of those huge, professional disc cleaners, or with one of those dinky hand-cranked buffers? Because the forme will usually take out some of the worst scratches and scars you'll ever see.

Maybe I'm just slow, but I'm having trouble understanding this.

The Ebay item is still sealed, correct? It wasn't signed before it was sealed... He is just signing the outside wrap?

the PSX Lunar games released in the U.S come in a Collectors Box type dealio, so i don't think it will be that big of a deal to sign it.

What Iwata said. New and sealed for a Lunar game doesn't mean plastic wrap. It's sealed with a sort of stickery/tape thing (see: DQ8 box). It's the actual case he's signing.

God I should really play EB. I mean I played maybe an hour or two and for some reason my friend and I never continued. Everyone says it's so much better than SSSC and I really, really liked SSSC.

Well heck, if you liked the first game, there's no reason at all to hold out on the second. It's basically SSSC except every single thing is better.

That eBay business with Vic just brings into sharper focus the unpleasant fact that brought down Working Designs. I don't think they really respected their fans as much as they claimed. If they really cared, they wouldn't have procrastinated as much as they were known to do. His priorities are really whacked out, something that doesn't seem to have changed one bit.

Incidentally, I don't think Victor Ireland has that much free time; he's working for Microsoft now!

I agree wholeheartedly with you, MK. It's been an eyeopener for sure, and to be honest, it's changed my view of him somewhat. I used to think that WD bit it because they were too niche and took too much time on their projects, but now it seems like they did because they just didn't give a shit.

I'll admit, it's annoyed me to the point that I almost regret buying the damn thing.

Hey, if he can work on a game as good as either Lunars then I'd buy a 360. That's better than completely disappearing from the videogame business all together.

So it came today. The thing looks fantastic and the signature is also VERY nice.

I lack a camera though, so I can't take pics. However, I DO have a scanner, so that's what you're going to get instead.

Here is what the signature looks like: (Click the image for a higher res version)

http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....2VicSigMED.jpg

So did you give him any feedback? :3

Item arrived late but in impeccable condition and had a decent bonus, and the shipping was fast and pretty rad, so I left him positive with some BS comment about how he was a good seller.

I just don't feel like dragging up shit after this all ended up fine and dandy.

I'm a big anime game collector so the first games that were definetely added to my collection were Lunar: Silver Star Story and Lunar 2: Eternal Blue and I have to admit I enjoyed both of the games even though they were cliche rpg's in a sense.

I haven't had the pleasure of enjoying the games when they were first released for the sega CD, which is something I would eventually like to enjoy because I'm aware of the many differences between the sega cd version to the psx version.

I really enjoyed these game because they have a lot of standard rpg elements and a good intriguing story. One of the things that I think the lunar series had is a lot of fun factor and a lot of jokes throughout the entire story. A lot of rpg's try to mix humor with its story but I feel that the Lunar series is one of those rpg's that does it fairly well.

Personally, I enjoyed the Silver Star Story more than what I did with Eternal Blue. I liked the characters more even though the story was not as detailed as what it was in Eternal Blue, I liked how the story was carried out and I enjoyed the interaction toward all the main characters in the Silver Star Story. I even liked the villians more in the Silver Star Story. I thought the evil sisters and Magic Emperor were much better than the villians of Eternal Blue.

I think if its one thing that The Lunar series did that makes it one of my favourite rpg series of all time is the fact that it has voice outakes at the end of each game, and i personally think that aspect alone puts a lot of fun factor into those games. I always laugh when it comes to Ghaleon's voice messing up his lines, because he is not afraid to swear due to his own frustration.

Lunar 2 in itself was not a bad game at all, and I enjoyed all the references it had toward the original lunar game, but above anything else ruby was definetely more annoying than nall.

Anyway, I'll be playing Lunar: Dragon song within the near future and even though I heard a lot of bad things about it, I'll try to enjoy it to the best of my ability because I like to form my own opinion of the games that I play instead of listening to other people.

The two Lunar games for PSX are my two favorite RPGs ever, and are both right behind Super Metroid as my favorite games ever. I like Silver Star Story a little better due to the cast in the game. Ghaleon is the most badass character ever, Alex is the perfect hero, Mia is amazingly hot (lolol shut up) and a wonderful girl who is much like my girlfriend, and most of the other main characters are all great. They also undergo some good character development, and there are a lot of good plot twists. Plus, I loved WD's translations, the music, and pretty much all else.

I lent one of my friends Lunar: SSSC a while ago, and he won't give it back though. It was the worst move I've ever made. I hope to god I get it back before the end of the summer.