Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
 

Official Site

I really liked the first one, so I hope they don't botch up this one. Not so sure about the squiddy people, but still I could be proven wrong when I see the full thing.

I enjoy the idea of Jack Sparrow battling Cthulhu spawn.

The first one is definitely one of my favorite movies ever. Easily, I'm not gonna hold the second one to such high expectations, but it should still be a blasty blast. Who knows? It might be freaking awesome as well. Can't wait.

Yeah, the first one really surprised me as being that good. In fact kairyu and I got a lot of qoutes from it, mostly him though.

Hope the second one is just as good, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up

The second film could never be as good as the first, could it? It does look rather good though. Roll on 7/7/06 (UK)
The first film is one of my favourite films, and i'm just hoping that they "don't do a matrix" and buggar it up with the last two.

I lol'ed at some of Jack's lines--who wouldn't? And, to be honest, it looks like the character hasn't changed at all from the first movie (it's been known to happen).

But, seeing as how Jerry Bruckheimer has been consistently good with CSI and those recurring characters, I'd say we can expect this movie to be good.

Ha! Jerry Bruckheimer and good just don't go together.

Jerry Bruckheimer and large explosions, however...

Well hopefully this one will be a good sequel, because they already have a third planned, yup a Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. However the way they will end the 3rd will be a closed ending, because they don't intend on doing a 4th unless someone else wanted to take on the challenge. They based the villains in the film on an actual myth, which I find quite interesting since their take on the villain being a half man half sea creature, instead of a more human based villain.

Davy Jones as the main villain should be cool, since there were already references to it in the first, such as "Davy Jones' locker". The whole idea of the story is that Jack made a bargain with Davy Jones to be captain of the Black Pearl, so that's why he was so obsessed with it in the first movie since it's apart of a bargain. I read this in a magazine and I don't quite remember the full details, i'll dig it out when I can be bothered.

So yeah, expect a third movie next summer.

I'm just worried that they'll try to make this one dramatic or take itself too seriously. I saw the trailer and had to groan; everything's trying to look like Lord of the Rings these days.

if it has johnny dep back again then it is sure to be great! and he is coming back so the movie is success before it even gets out!

I'm looking forward to this. I've seen the first one at least 20 times now, five of which were in theatres. As long as there's ample story connections throughout all three i'm happy. I see this movie going very well, would've been better though if Keith Richards had accepted the offer to be in it.

The trailer seemed interesting. I've only seen the first movie once, but I remember that I didn't find it dull. Compared to the other movies released around that same time, it was certainly more entertaining for me.

From what I've seen of the new movie, it appears to have nice balance of humor and drama, something the previous one specialized in. So, I'm expecting something enjoyable, even if it's not as good as its predecessor.

I've been looking forward to this so much. It's got potential, good actors and what seems to be a good storyline, so it should be a pretty damn enjoyable movie. Even if it doesn't live up to the first one, I'm sure it will be a gripping movie anyway.

Bumpage, and impressions.



Definitely a fun ride. Not much introduction to the characters, assuming knowledge of the original, and doesn't take long till some action spars. Strangely enough, as some things feel tighter in execution, others seem to be loosened in anticipation for the third film. While things are happening, the overall plot doesn't get started until a ways in, and doesn't have the climax that made the first film so exciting. Supposedly to do with these two part films, so hoping everything clicks together eventually.

The usuals are as good as ever though- Depp hasn't been saturated throughout the film, thankfully. The score, while more subdued than the first, seems ultimately more thought out. I was surprised to see some guitars in the action scenes, similar to what Greg Edmonson did for the Firefly soundtrack. Me likes the parts which remind me of Monkey Island too (though that was based on the ride as well).

I just watched Pirates 1 for the first time this weekend. Good movie with an excellent soundtrack and interesting premise.

Guess I will go see this one tomorrow morning then. Trailer looks good.

Well, he's not in this one that's coming out now, but on the news yesterday they said he's set to be in the third one. This article from Reuters is the only reliable source I have on that info, though. Nothing set in stone. It would be awesome if it came to be!!

It's too bad that Keith Richards could literally keel over and die at any moment. How he is still alive is a mystery to civilized society. Hopefully he'll survive long enough to make a cameo appearance in a potentially entertaining film.

Quite the contrary. Nothing short of a nuclear bomb or Jack Bauer can kill Richards now. He's immune to just about anything.

I saw this earlier today, and I thought it was absolute genius.

It does drag on a bit, and I'm not a huge fan of the cliffhanger ending, despite a nice surprise at the end, but on a whole I loved the movie. The movie assumes that everyone on the planet saw POTC1, so it really jumps right into the action. The one swordfight on the wheel was pure genius, and the Kraken is awesome.

But goddamn, I can't wait for POTC3. God-fucking-damn.

What surprised me the most about this movie is how dark it is. This is definitely an intense storyline, at least when compared to the first movie. It wasn't until the final sword fight sequence did the movie ever feel like the original.

However, it is still a great movie. The crowd I saw it with was really into it, and I think most people came out of the theater happy.

Also, I can't wait for the calls of racism to roar soon.

Why what happens in the movie that would be racist to some people?

If it happened with King Kong for a ficitional tribe, it will definitely happen with this movie. In Dead Man's Chest, the natives are cannibals and they are dark skinned. That's the gist of it.



I may as well add that in this movie, Sparrow has less one-liners, or at least jokes that are actually funny. It is more his actions that bring the comedy, and for me, some of it was kind of forced. But don't get me wrong. Jack Sparrow carries this movie.

I'll have to see it again. It took multiple viewings of the original for me to fully appreciate it, and I feel that this movie deserves the same treatment.

There are schools of thought that say that any adventure movie has some amount of post-colonial imperialism in it. I don't feel like getting into a great amount of detail with you, since you've already made up your mind, but this runs over the basics.

Suffice it to say that the tribe in the movie is shown as culturally distinct only in that they are an antagonistic force. They are there to be in opposition to everything euro-centric.

And yes, the movie was fun, exciting, and very well executed. That doesn't mean it doesn't lean on some distinctly rickety thought processes. (Natives! Better run, they must be cannibals! Obviously!)

Skexis, I remember our debate with King Kong. I was going to mention the post-colonial idea, but I knew you or someone would fill in the gap.

Anyway, about the movie. I might as well add that they did go over the top with the special effects. You know when you see



in a pirate movie that they are going out of control. At least the special effects in this film are absolutely amazing, and Davy Jones is easily the best CGI character.

And man, Davy Jones! Great villain!

Yeah, seeing Davy in the trailer, I wondered just how serious I was going to be able to take this movie, but you're right, it was a lot more dark than the first one, and the characters (Davy in particular) were more compelling in this one.

It took me a while to figure out who the actor was, but when my friend mentioned Underworld, it was a lot easier to see the resemblance to Bill Nighy.

What I love about the movie is how it included several characters from the previous movie. Especially the comic relief pair, I enjoyed them thoroughly. The ending...had to be the best moment for me for the film...definitely left the audience screaming for more.

Im proably gonna catch it tonight when I get off work. It looks like a good popcorn flick. I liked the first one without actually knowing I liked it (figure that out on your own) plus Ive been in a shitty movie drought lately (Click, Art School Confidential, FATF:Tokyo Drift)

Huh? Remind me of where that was, can't remember.

Come now, you were just asking to see a shitty movie by going to see The Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift.

I loved the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie, but this one has me a bit unsure since I heard the ending feels a bit rushed and it'll be another year before the third movie will be released. Is it still worth seeing this now instead of renting it right before the conclusion comes out in theaters?

Just read on IMDB that there's a 10 second clip following the credits. Folks argue if it is a hint at #3 or just an extra. But just so ya'll know to stick around =O Sorry if someone already mentioned it.

I don't know if anyone else sees it this way but I'm afraid the Pirates trilogy is going to go the way of the Matrix trilogy.

Pirates 1 - innovative, new, never been a pirate movie like it
Pirates 2 - fleshes out the story, the characters grow, peril insues, cliff hanger ending
Pirates 3 - (hopefully this won't be the case) lackluster 3rd act, finishing the story but not with the big bang we all expect.

That's exactly what my experience with the matrix trilogy was. The matrix was groundbreaking (to me at least), the second part was great built me up for a spectacular ending, and the third one just kinda let everything fall into place, didn't wow but didn't exactly disappoint either.

That being said, I liked dead man's chest. kinda felt a big long but was pretty cool.

The little extra after the credits is only extra, no sneak peek or anything, that is unless the 3rd movie goes completely bonkers.

Pirates 2 is pretty damn good I've heard, unlike Matrix Reloaded. Plus, it doesn't gorge itself on horrendous CG effects that look god-damn ridiculous.

As long as Jack Sparrow doesn't have a One Piece or DBZ style stand-off in the third movie, I'll be fine :)

A year untill the next release? I always heard they filmed POTC 2 and 3 at the same time. =/

Man, I totally need a desktop wallpaper of the scene at the end of the movie where:

They probably did film at the same time so they wouldn't have to fly everyone right back to the shooting locations, but the editing is what takes most of the time.

I heard that they were to film PotC2 and 3 backtoback, not at the same time, ala Lord of the Rings and The Matrix.

I don't think this can screw up as much as the Matrix, since this trilogy only has plot wholes to fill, rather than an entire sci fi universe

Seconded.

I thouroughly enjoyed it. It was pretty much what I was expecting. That is a pretty mindless summer popcorn movie. Jack was great as expected, and I was quite pleased they didn't do what I was afraid of and make it a Jack-only movie. They allowed the other characters time, and didn't let Jack run wild onscreen for 2 and a half hours. His entrance was great.



I really liked the badass Norrington too. And the wheel-swordfight was a great idea. Everything I had heard about Davy Jones was correct, and he was a great villian. The Kraken was great, but I do with we got more (some) shots of the "body" rather than mostly the tentacles.



I simply can't wait for next year to see what happens.



It did run a little long, but overall I did enjoy it. A welcome addition to the series. Not as good as #1, but still great. Hopefully 3 doesn't screw it up.

4/5

I dunno, it was a great movie, but it wasn't what I was expecting.

I kinda thought the humor was a little too goofy, and also a little too forced.



It just didn't feel pirate enough.

Still very much worth seeing, though.

Box Office Mojo is reporting that Dead Man's Chest has claimed the largest single day opening gross ever. Beating out the previous holder Star Wars Episode III:Revenge of the Sith (~$55,000,000) and the largest Friday opening X-Men 3 (~$45,000,000) with a staggering $55,500,000.

To put that into perspective, that is half of Superman's weekly gross.

If this keeps up it will shatter the 3-day weekend record Spider-Man 2 set ($114,844,116). Hell, it has a chance of doing that tonight.

Who exactly was the girl in the shack? Was she new or did she have any bearing on the story before hand? I don't remember.

I say this because of this.

She was a new character for the movie.

[spoli]Now that you mention it though, there does seem to be a connection. I didn't pick up on the locket thing when I saw it last night. Perhaps this explains the needlessly long shot of the locket when Will was taking the key from Jones.[/spoil]

I saw the movie last night but was a little disappointed.

The movie was unnecessarily long and overall I didn't think it had the magic of the original. Most of the verbal jokes were just takes on the jokes from the first movie, and in particular, the rum joke was overdone. Some new additions to the soundtrack would have been nice, as the only one of note was the organ track for Davy Jones.

Most of the action scenes felt very over the top, in a way that the filmmakers were trying to top the original but ended up going too far. Leave the hamster wheel sequences to Cirque du Soleil. That, and the drama was pretty lame.



I know I've focused on the elements that I thought were weak, but I did actually manage to enjoy the film. I definitely don't regret seeing it in theaters, but it wasn't really what I was expecting. It really seemed to overcomplicate the simple and fun movie that was the original.

I'd give it a 6/10.

Well, I saw the movie again this morning and it was definitely more enjoyable the second time.

It's not that I didn't think it was great film the first time, but knowing what will happen next allowed me to have more fun with the movie.

Although I still think the first film has the best comedy, the story is simply more compelling in Dead Man's Chest.

Well if I had to make a decision to go see it, could someone simplify it in binary terms? Sucks, or Unsucks?

Definetly worth watching, I dunno how to really rate it compared to the first..it's complicated to say the least without giving anything away. I know I was happy with the film, but yeah just gonna have to wait a whole year to see how everything fits together.

What made me appreciate this movie more was that they actually used characters from the movie before...not merely the large potent cast but really small miniscule characters as well like Jack's crew from the first movie (mute parrot guy, midget, etc...) as well as the comic relief (the two charactes from Barbossa's crew) which did add a certain charm to the movie overall. Likewise Norrington's appearance in the movie was a relief...I feared that they were going to throw him away after the first movie. AND of course

Man, I just saw it today, and it was frigging awesome. I must admit, the jokes are not as good as the first movie. I have high hopes for the third movie and cannot wait to see it. All the characters back plus a Chow Yun Fat Pirate (I hope he has a bigger role). I hope it will be a big fight between the badasses pirates plus the english fleet.

This is my review for the movie if anyone is interested:

"This movie is awesome. You need to see it."

You know, for awhile there I was regretting to watch that movie at the midnight showing. I honestly wasn't expecting much from it. Now I'm glad I lost a little sleep from it! Besides a few over-used jokes we've all seen in the first movie already:

Dead Man's Chest is one hell of a movie, its easily one of my favorites this year. Fantastic visuals, great music of course; mostly same ol' but I particularly enjoyed the Kraken theme. I was also surprised to see Will Turner steal the spotlight from Sparrow for a good portion of the film. Its just a overall great action flick I think everyone should see at least once, maybe twice!

I was so glad I didn't read spoilers for the film. Very happy that the surprises, aside from the obvious lead-in to the next film, were kept safe.

A great summer movie, that's about all you can say, really.

I'll go ahead and be the one who goes against the grain and not like it. Copied from my journal-

Plot? Story? Character Development? Sub-characters? Cohesion? Who cares! CAPTAIN JACK IS BACK!

If there are two things this movie did right, it would be the two actual fun scenes in the movie, one occuring about 10-20 minutes in, and the other one 2 hours later. This movie is entirely too long at 2 hours and 30 minutes. There is too much NOTHING going on. There are no sub-plots that I gave a damn about enough to remember until the VERY FUCKING END. Sub-Characters? The only one with any substance is Davy Jones, and they only explain why through folklore. Give me a break.

Orlando Bloom is okay, but I really don't give a damn about Will Turner, or his father who he HAPPENS TO FIND ON THE FLYING DUTCHMAN OMG! Then they try to force this retarded father-son drama upon us and it just does not work for me. Keira Knightly is OVERRATED and a SHITTY ACTOR in this movie. I don't buy her as being a tough girl, I'm sorry. I don't buy many women being tough since they are not by default in real life. Don't worry, she does do something actually realistic by confusing drama for logic and ending up causing a huge brouhaha at the end that almost fucks everything up.

Captain Jack is the only decent thing about this movie, and he falls flat compared to his brilliant performance last time. I thought he was fantastic in the first one. This time, it's just more of the same, and less of the unique. I'll give him credit in that his first and last appearances in the film are nothing short of fucking brilliant, but other than that, it's just more of the same. We've seen it all before.

And don't worry, the third one will inherently suck since the whole movie will be...



This movie just sucked. I saw way too many things wrong with it to be enjoyable. It's another tragic example of trying to cash in on the trilogy marketing ploy. They could have easily cut this movie in half, making the crappy twist/cliffhanger ending the midpoint, and making At World's End the second half of the film, because I guarantee that will be just as overblown as this pile of celluloid shit.

4/10


Also, wow, broke some serious opening day records yesterday with $55 million. It will definitely beat Spider-Man's opening weekend numbers now, which is unfortunate.

Shit, I enjoyed it.

The Disney/Video game fanboy was disappointed with the lack of Sora/Luxord references/cameos, but that's just me being stupid.

It was a hella fun ride. Granted, I don't remember the original too well because of Kingdom Hearts adaptation, but...

Heh, Luxord... He of the goatee and weird-ass boss battle.

Honestly, I was waiting for more Monkey Island references. If you watch this movie as a more serious version of Monkey Island, it kinda makes up for the times when it drags. There's a voodoo lady, goofy cannibals, lots of fun random islands, swordfighting (not quite insult-swordfighting, but...), a rowdy pirate bar, "ghost" pirates (and I swear I remember LeChuck playing the organ at some point), quirky humour, and of course, good use of monkeys.

The Kingdom Hearts version sorta condensed the movie's more memorable scenes and core plot into 25 minutes, and added the aid of a kid who fights with a key. A lot of the major bits were still there. Though you wouldn't know it sometimes, since the NA version censored at least two scenes in the Pirates level for retarded reasons. I have the Japanese cut scenes to prove it.

Really? Which ones were those?

I thought that too. I thought some of the humor was pretty cheap. I remember at least ten or fifteen jokes that were play-offs of the "Why is the rum gone" scene in the first movie. Three or four of them were genuinely funny, but not that many. I felt like they were trying to hard to make us laugh, and just kept resorting to that scene.




I think that people worried about spoilers should not be reading three-page discussions of movies released days ago that they haven't seen yet, as there are bound to be spoilers in them. I mean, I don't read them. But there we are. :)

Jesus, man, use the damn spoiler box that vbulletin has.

It looks a hell of a lot cleaner, and it helps people avoid spoilers easier.

This thing has smashed weekend boxoffice records at least it's estimated it will at www.boxofficemojo.com

They're saying a 3 day total of over $132 million

Looking for opinions on the movie and looking for the whole thing to be ruined are concepts exclusive of one another.

Also "days ago" != free reign when a convenient and considerate alternative is provided for you jesus christ why do I have to explain these things.

I highly doubt the percentage increase in population is anywhere near the percentage increase in film sales.

That's about a 10% jump since a few years ago, is North America ten percent bigger?

Observe!



So by NA censorship logic, it seems that people killing themselves/each other is a-okay only as long as you don't actually see a conventional weapon involved. :rolleyes:

I really thought this movie was ok. For all the hype, its not THAT good.

The first movie was great, then again, it came out of left field with no expectations. It was such a fun and original flick, great music, good characters, funny while dramatic with good action. It had it all.

This movie has... well, stuff. It feels stuffed to the brim with nothing. The sword fighting was ok, but mostly ridiculous. The whole island thing early in the movie was full of scenes that were too goofy. Aside from the Ms. Swan/Cpt. Sparrow conversations, the dialog was pretty boring or predictable.

I enjoyed the movie, don't get me wrong. But this isn't a great movie. It is a tried and true summer flick. Nothing more. It aspires to live up to the original, but just pales in creativity, witty dialog, captivating characters, action scenes (what happens NOT the FX). I recommend seeing it because its fun but not nearly as great as it's made out to be.

Well we all know that the 2/3 year old demographic makes up for a huge percentage of box office sales.

me thought it was a decent movie. some of the old jokes are little over done.
i was told that there's gonna be a third one so i kinda expected a cliffhanger.
the second half of the story is fairly predictible.

but i definately did not see that ending comming (but i love it !!). i guess that kinda saved the whole story :D

6.5/10

LOL, I guess you're right. What makes it even more lame is that's what Will actually does in the 1st movie - I guess the kiddies just can't handle watching the same thing in video game format. *rolls eyes* But thanks for the info - definitely amusing.

Wouldn't the increase in box office money be attributed to the gradual inflation in ticket prices?

I mean, even over the past couple of years tickets have gone up at least 50 cents a piece.

Does anyone think the movie is racist? I keep reading journal entries about how the movie is very racist. I haven't been able to see it, but is it true? Or are they just blowing it out of proporation like "The Passion of the Christ" and "Dogma"?

It's not really Disney censoring it to be bastards so much as they're censoring it to make E10+ rating as to not lose sales.:lolsign:

I think the racist hoopla was the "misrepresentation" of the carib people. There are protest that say that caribs are protrayed excessively as cannibals.

For goodness sake, this is just a movie. They might as well protest that Davy Jones was misrepresented as a fish monster.

I guess Disney can expect an angry letter from all the Deep Ones offended by their insensitive portrayal of slimy fish monsters. And considering Davy's resemblance to Cthulhu, maybe an accusation of insulting their religious beliefs.

Best movie of 2006 so far.

And to some of the idiots DUR THE ENDING "DEFIES LOGIC" I GIVE IT A 2/4..

.. Defies logic? It's a fucking pirate movie with a 4000000 foot squid. . Will you just ENJOY a movie and not pick the damn thing apart?

I'm sure people said Natural Born Killers was just a movie too, but that doesn't mean it didn't influence individuals' behavior in unforseen ways. I'm sure you're familiar with the copycat killings surrounding the movie.

Now, does that mean this film will turn anyone or even a significant portion of people into racists? Not necessarily. But to say that it has no effect is false, because you're speaking for not just yourself, but everyone who goes to see it.

People tell themselves they won't be affected by things all the time, but they don't always follow up so well.

It is the best movie that has come out so far this year. So what if there are few things that defy logic and physics? It doesn't matter. It's funny, clever, creative, interesting, and although it may be a little too long, that trait wasn't very noticeable for me until I thought about it afterwards.

I hardly think reusing the same damned "Rum" gag over and over is what I would consider "clever, creative, interesting".

And somehow that overshadows everything else the movie does? It's a summer blockbuster. Meant to be big, fun, exciting, and keep people in their seats. It lives up to that, and expectations from the first. Good enough for me.

I'm going to see the film tomorrow, i'm really looking forward to seeing it and I didn't make the same mistake as look too much into it and what people have said like I did with X-men 3; so hopefully i'm less likely to have things ruined for me and come out disappointed. I'm expecting a basic straightforward high concept flick and nothing more =D. I'll probably post up a mini review tomorrow.

Be sure to stay after the credits for that last funny scene.

The rum gag isn't supposed to be interesting. The way they made me laugh every single time they did a rum-related joke makes it clever and creative, as well as humoriously accurate.

I thought it was a remarkably entertaining film. I loved the first one to bits as I loved the seven seas hijinks. This film, of course, was going to be more of the same. It is, afterall, a sequel to a pirate movie, so it's not going to be radically different. If you look at the film in its basic form, it's virtually identical to the first one: an (effectively) undead baddie crew, Jack, Will (and now Elizabeth) on the run from the officials etc etc. However, while the basic (and I mean basic) story is the same, it doesn't feel it. It's fresh, exciting and, surprisingly, unpredictable.

Johnny Depp is, once again, completely superb. It's understandable that Jack Sparrow will eventually grate and get on peoples nerves. However, I still love him. How long did it take for there to be a character quite like him? IMO, Captain Jack Sparrow is still a refreshing and wonderfully portrayed character.
I also have to find myself saying that Orlando Bloom was rather brilliant. OK, so brilliant's perhaps too strong, but of the films of his I've seen, this has been his best performace. Better than Paris, better than Legolas and better than Will Turner from the first film.
Kiera was also surprisingly good. Her performance was satisfactory and at the end where she was, I thought, very powerful.
And now the character most people overlook: Commodore James Norrington. I like the ol' Commodore, always have. I also think Jack Davenport is a very good, very underrated and very underused actor. It was great to see how he's changed from uptight officer of the Empire to scruffy bugger who's living in Tortuga. It was also nice to see how he's become a bit of a bad-ass.
And I gotta say, Bill Nighy was great as Davy Jones. That scene of him playing the organ with his tentacles was remarkably cool and one of my favourite parts of the movie.

As for favourite scenes, well, the organ scene has already been mentioned. Black Pearl vs the Kraken was also remarkably well done. The monkey scene was also fantasic. Ah, that's it, the choreography was also fantastic.
As for bad, well,

Overall, I thought the film was very, very well done. It wasn't as good as the first, I think, but it holds up well and considering its sequel handicap it was remarkable.

Overall score:
A healthy 8.5 out of 10.

Just came back from seeing it, and overall I liked it. I would definitely say however, go see the first movie if you haven't yet, or else you won't understand some of the things going on (and some of the characters).

One thing you guys seemed to have forgotten to mention about the "racism" in this movie. While it's not focusing on the natives, it is a scene there:



Not that it bothered me that much, but might as well point it out lol.

I loved the special effects. The Kraken definitely does a good job of filling in fear that sailors had/would've talked about/feared over the open seas, and even Davy Jone's crew looked pretty decent (other than that one guy with the conch head, he seemed a little fake to me).

And I have to admit, I love Jack Sparrow's entrances in the movie. While it's not as hiliarious as the first movie:



It's still kind of a cool entrance, and something I would expect him to do.

Although this movie has a darker feel to it than the first movie, it's usually balanced out by some humor as well:



While there aren't as many spoken jokes as the first film, there's much more comedy expressed through action, which is great, because audiences all over the world will probably get a similiar reaction as us, whereas spoken jokes would have to be dubbed/subtitled, and may not work as well. You can bet scenes like the one I just mentioned in my last spoiler will be just as funny in Asia and Europe as it is to American audiences.

And if you're still skeptical, yes, it's worth watching, There are some flaws with the movie, but if you just want to watch some funny stuff happening (along with some serious moments, like when the Kraken is attacking), it's worth seeing.

I don't think Elizabether is really in love with Jack, I think she's in love with what he is. From what i remember of the first movie, she's always wanted to be a pirate. I think that's why the compass points to him. She wants to be Jack, wants the freedom and the excitement. I don't think it's a real love thing.

I figure the only reason she kissed him was to distract him enough to chain him up.

As to the question about the crew size..

And Shonos, that actually did answer my question for the most part. I sort of remember that part, but because of the situation they were in, probably didnt really pay attention to it (although I have to admit a lot of parts it was difficult to make out what was being said simply cause they spoke too fast or it took me a few seconds to see what they were saying).

The movie doesn't have to make sense.

For example, there is a metal bar on the wheel that knocks out Jack, but when other people jump on the inside of the wheel, there is no bar.

Well I watched the film yesterday and I have to say I was thoroughly entertained. The look of the film, the costumes and the locations were amazing. Davy Jones' and his crew were spectacular with the sea things growing off them, I thought that was done really well. Jack Sparrow is Jack Sparrow really, you can't fault him. Davy Jones was great too, I think I remember reading about it in here when he does that little thing with his lip - it's the little things that entertain me sometimes =p.

The humour in the film was alright, although it did feel it was trying too hard to be funny since the first one was just hilarious down to Depp's performance. The soundtrack, well it's Hans Zimmer; while he writes amazing scores you can't help but feel you've heard it a million times before.

The story line was interesting enough, obviously there'll be a third so I can't sum it all up but it's going in an interesting direction if the third one doesn't fuck it up i.e X-Men 3.

I've never really liked Orlando Bloom's character, he just seems a bit too stiff and serious for his own good. Keira Knightly despite how I find her extremely annoying wasn't too bad in this film, she had her moments. All in all I really liked the film, it'll be interesting to see where the film heads due to the little twist at the end of the film (which I thought was fantastic).

I can see Bloom as a "surprise" villain in PotC3. He'd be pretty pissed off that Jack

Could we perhaps drop the spoilers by now? After four hours it should be expected that spoilers are aplenty. "HERE THERE BE SPOILERS!"

Maybe, he's definetly gonna be a drama queen in the third one about Elizabeth kissing Jack. I think they've already got Norrington is his name? I forget, as the alliance with the trading company and he is going after Jack so I doubt it. But who knows =p

I loved this movie. I think this is up to now the best movie released this year. It's funny, creative, good action oriented and everything, I might even say that it's better than the first.



I can't wait for Pirates of the Caribbean 3, I belive it's going to be awesome.

Well I finally went to the theater to see it last night and within five minutes, was laughing my ass off.

.

I was not expecting anything from the last 15-20 minutes of the movie.



Jack really didn't have the same attitude or at least in my opinion. And they over-used the "Rum" bits.

But yeah, 8 out of 10 stars from me. I look forward to it.

You missed the point, mate. The point is that: