The Prison Break Discussion Thread v2
 

So we have about two weeks before this great show returns. I really can't wait for this, not only because it's a great show, but also because it's gonna be paired up with 24, the best fucking show ever. Prison Break + 24 = Best night of television ever. March 20th couldn't come any faster.

Also of note is the Prison Break marathon on FX the Sunday (March 19) before the new episodes start. Great for a refresher if you need one, or a great oppurtunity to start watching if you've never seen it.

Doh... Prison Break is coming on before 24? I don't think I can skip my Monday night class every week for Prison Break. I'm already going to next week because of the double Bauer hour. Looks like post-broadcast downloads for me...

Anyway, I'm looking forward as to how any of what happened previously actually plays out. It was such a long wait compared to the other shows I've been addicted to recently. It better be worth the wait.

OHH shi yes. Wtf happened to that damn House that made Prison Break go off for so long. I didn't know PB was going to go in at 8 o clock. Best LINEUP ever there.

I need to refresh up on what happened the last ep. I have some memories of it, but can't remember all the details. Unlike Scofield who has a godly memory because of his condition.

This is great. I didn't know that it was restarting so soon. I thought that I had to wait until May. Awesome, now I'll be watching two series - my friends got my hooked on Grey's Anatomy two weeks ago.

Will we be able to handle all the suspense and drama that we'll get from watching Prisonbreak and 24 back-to-back? I can see it now. "Man died in his home due to TV-caused stress."

The only thing that made Prison Break for me was the tension. I never really cared much for the characters; I was always just interested in seeing how/if they would escape. For some reason I feel the answer to that last cliffhanger's going to be, "Oh wait I forgot we can just go through this vent over here" or something equally simplistic.

Prison Break was one of the few great new shows last year. The characters and plot are really good. I've been waiting with huge anticipation for new episodes, and now the wait is almost over. I will try to watch the marathon on FX just to get a little refresher course on things I may have missed throughout the season.

I did care for the characters and I thought the cast was awesome. Especially Bellick (Wade Williams) and "T-Bag" (Robert Knepper).

Can't wait for this show to get back on air.

T-Bag? Is that the flamboyant redneck omnisexual? I can't even appreciate him as a villain. I just hope he dies before it's over. Nothing redeeming about him at all.

http://www.fox.com/prisonbreak/bios/bio_bagwell.htm

Robert Knepper is an awesome actor.

Well, I heard that

I guess you won't care too much for those, huh?

I would if they were relevant to the overall conspiracy, that would be an interesting twist. If not, however, flashbacks seem like a damned-if-you-or-don't situation.

For one, very obvious imitation of LOST. Surely, LOST didn't create the concept of flashbacks or the concept of flashbacks immediately relevant to character decisions. However, LOST being one of the most popular shows on television, trying to imitate it mid-season seems very desparate and overall unoriginal.

Besides that, what can the flashbacks tell us? So-and-so killed someone or robbed a bank or sold drugs? Either the writers are going to try to make us pity the characters by making the characters seem like like victims of their crimes, victims of their environments, forced into their crimes, wrongly accused, etc. Or the writers can make the characters twice as unlikeable by having them have actually done unlawful things. Or the writers can make these unlawful things overall trivial and undramatic, like robbing a convenient store, which would be a waste of the audience's time.

Yep, that's basically all I can see them pretty much telling us. It is kinda stupid, considering they could probably explain this with a few lines of dialogue instead of making expansive flashback sequences (since, unlike Lost, their background probably ain't that much of a mystery). It sucks too, because when I saw one of the commercials they showed and I thought that was gonna be related to something after the breakout, but now I know it's just part of a flashback sequence.

So did anyone watch the marathon today? I watched pieces of it just to get a refresher, especially on episode 13. The thing I wanna know is, when was that 'Behind the Walls' special that came on before the marathon made? It seems like it was made between the time the show took its first break (which was after episode 7, I believe), but I never saw it on TV or anything around that time.

Wow. I never knew there was previous discussion about this show (assuming from topic title labing it as v2). At first I didn't pay attention to the show until my friend recommended and now I can't wait until Monday night for the show to resume. I'm glad to have a digital OTA tuner so now I can watch the show in HD. :D

Should be good. Prison Break sucked for the first couple episodes, then it got interesting.

Granted, this won't be nearly as good as the Buffy/Angel night, but it should be good. ;]

Yeah, there was a thread before the crash, so I just named this one v2. It also kinda works since this is the 2nd part of the first season.

That may be best foe you, but Prison Break and 24 on the same night is a godsend for me. The only thing that was better was when 24 and The Shield came on the same night, but they unfortunately they weren't on the same channel (not that much of a difference though).

And just think, for those of us who like it, CSI: Miami comes on right after this powerful two-hour block (find a seat with a good edge indeed). Admittingly there isn't as much action or suspense, but it's still a good show.

I thought tonight's episode was a good one to come back with. It had lots of suspenseful moments, and it ended with a good cliffhanger. However, in the preview for next week's episode:

I liked the episode as well. There were just so many points where you would think success would happen, but it was all "fail." I was really into it, and when the end came, I was left begging for more. Fuck this week shit.

I truly believe that Lincoln is going to be executed. At this point, there doesn't seem to be any way to avoid it. There were four strikes. That's more than enough.

I saw the latest episode recently. This is just getting ridiculous. Please kill Lincoln already or something. The show is just being dragged on and on and on. It's still better than a lot of the other trash that they're showing on TV though.

How is it being dragged? It is not like they extended the execution. At least it hasn't been yet.

What do you want them to do lol

If Lincoln gets executed but Michael somehow finds out about this much larger conspiracy, Michael will have reason to break out in order to bust the Vice President. Obviously, the show can't really end until this is done. Michael also might be the only person with the intelligence to do this; it seems like everyone else is getting pwned in the process.

That's probably what is going to happen. Or maybe Michael will go all psycho and murder the evil woman behind it all.

They can't kill Lincoln. He's on the opening sequence!

I'd say the fuse could blow, but Michael tried that already and Bellick ruined it. So they *could* do it again, but it would be unoriginal. Just as that, the governor could call again and stop the execution, but again: unoriginal.

Surely some *miracle* will happen... otherwise, what was the flashback before the ending all about?

By the way, what happened to John Abruzzi? He wasn't even mentioned in the new episode! Is he dead?

Those that have been interviewed in TV Guide have been very cryptic about whether Abruzzi is dead or not. We know he's been taken to a hospital for treatment, but I think the writers are intnetionally leaving room for him to return. Now, I wonder if the gang could still keep the cleaning job if Abruzzi is no longer head honcho at the prison. However, I'm not sure they really need it anymore...

Good point, Acro-nym!

I totally forgot about the fact they still have to fix the break room. But I think Abruzzi's bribe to Bellick was like a monthly thing, so if that's the case, they have plenty of time. I'm also wondering how are they going to prevent the guards from (eventually) finding the hole! Putting a carpet over it can only work so far...

Anyway, if John is really dead, they didn't make it very clear on his last appearance. >:|

I thought Abruzzi was dead for sure; I didn't know he was still alive. That throat slash looked like the end of it all for him. I actually like him as a character.

German engineering in da hoooouse

Last Monday was the first episode of the show I watched, I was impressed despite the fact I didn’t have any back ground on these characters. The suspense of Lincoln’s execution, hoping some miracle will happen next week, despite the impossible odds. Good stuff The show also seems to be the type of show where, like it new partner in crime 24, it is good to avoid the previews. I watched the previews where it said the governor denied clemency but had forgot all about till tell it happen on screen. Not knowing what will happen greatly enhanced the suspense. This really a complement disguised in an observation it takes something special for me to want to watch it “pure”. Not sure if I’m going to keep watching it not the best timeslot for me, but it on been added to my never-ending list of things to get when it comes to DVD.

Well, sure! He had lost a lot of blood... as anyone would with a wound like that. But the next episode starts with him being taken to a helicopter or something. And he's still alive and somewhat conscious. And that's the last we see of him.

Well, I saw the next episode (you can get it on Torrentspy.com) and WoW, what a surprise --

My brother told me it's going to go on for almost 5-6 seasons? Is this the truth!? =O

It possibly could be, but nothing is set in stone for sure. Most shows usually don't plan that far ahead in the future, though (except Lost and Desperate Housewives, which supposedly are contracted to like season 7 or something like that). I really don't see what they could do to make the show last that long though, so I doubt that's true.

Thanks for the site, Sepharite.

I'll read your spoiler once I have watched the episode. :)
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Oh, also, wasn't Prison Break supposed to be a mini series?

FOX will extend it undefinitely until it's no longer good, like the did with the Simpsons, won't they?
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Great episode! So it says "For review purposes only - Property of FOX". How did they get that copy!? O_O

In Entertainment Weekly, it says three seasons is it and that is the end. Even the actors say they knew that this would occur.

No, FOX announced it as regular fall series, though I think the original plan was to have them break out by about the middle of the series and then have them on the run for the rest of the time. They obviously changed this plan once the got popular, though.

I wonder how they're going to make it work for three seasons. I hope they are not in prison for all of that (most of that) time.

Today's episode was okay, but a part of me wishes Lincoln had actually died. Perhaps it would have made Michael's resolve stronger? Or perhaps that's unnecessary.

The way he burned himself sucked ass.

The part I didn't like about tonight's episode was the stuff about their dad. Lincoln seemed to be a little obsessive over it, which makes me think he's gonna do something crazy (like actually get executed instead of escaping with Michael and the others) just for a chance to see him again.

And as for next week:

What resolve? He's there to rescue Lincoln. He has no idea on what's going on with the conspiracy.

Yeah, I didn't get it. Was it *really* necessary? If he had stood one step forward would've the guard known he was there? :S

Actually, I think he does. Why else would he be so sure that Lincoln is innocent? I also remember him telling Veronica in one episode that he was doing the exact same thing she was doing before he went in there. He may not know the full extent of the conspiracy, but I do believe he has some idea of it.

I think it's more of a reflex and that he didn't know there was a hot burning pipe behind him. He's being stealth, okay? XP

I'm willing to cut the event some slack since it sets up some more suspense in future episodes.

Honestly, I don't think I could do it. Getting burned is such intense pain he would have unconsciously moved. I would have resorted to knocking the guard out. Besides, the guard couldn't have known who blindsided him.

Attacking a guard would have made them aware that *someone* was there. Besides after all these episodes I think we know he's not the kind of character that would do something like that. :) Not like Lincoln.

I remember that, but it seemed to me that he meant he tried to help Lincoln through the legal way... he didn't mention anything about the conspiracy. And I don't remember him talking about anything related to it... But... did he?

Well, when he said that to Veronica he most likely meant that he talked to some of the same people she was talking to, so I still think he knew something of the conspiracy. He probably just didn't have enough time to uncover before they were to execute Lincoln, so he initiated the prison break plan. Maybe we'll find out more next week.

I finally got around to watching the episode. Swet. Burning is intense. It always begs the question what would Jack Bauer do (or Brian Boitano... or Jesus)? (What? Nevermind.)

Anyway, so the preview for next week was that it would be completely a flashback episode?

Flashback? Nooo... they had many of those on the last episode!

But it seems the doctor is going to find out something about the prison break. Besides, how's Michael going to explain that burn if he doesn't want Sucre to be blamed for it? Plus there's that plot with the father that seems to know about the conspiracy!

A question: did Hale (the other secret service guy) die? It seemed pretty obvious, but still...

I watched the latest episode today - wow, that burn incident was stupid. Move slightly over to the side idiot. So dumb.

Also, the villain is just an ugly bitch. Does anybody else want her to die just because her voice is annoying?

Yes.

But I'm guessing she won't. This doesn't look like the kind of show where the main villain dies. :(

A pretty good episode for what t was, though I could have done with less of some of the stories (like Sucre, who didn't get good until the end) and more of the others (like T-Bag, who they never actually showed committing the crime), and I would have also liked to actually see some who weren't included (like Westmoreland, so they could finally clear his story up, even though it wouldn't have fit in the timeframe of everyone else's story). Overall though, I thought C-Note was the best (well, at least he actually had a legitimate reason for breaking the law), mainly because of:



Just kidding. It really was the best story, though. But overall, that many questions really weren't answered, and I would have just preferred a regular episode. They should have saved tonight's episode for a DVD release or something, because it would have been a kickass extra.

Lol yeah, Mike Jones.

The episode was alright, but I didn't get my fix of SUSPENSE like I usually do. There were some interesting parts indeed, but overall I found myself sort of bored.

I was surprised at seeing Michael having so much trouble with the blueprints. He's supposed to be a genius. I though the entire concept would have come natural to him.

Yeah, especially considering all the other stuff he was able to figure out that we saw him use in the series (the info about Abruzzi, the warden, etc.). You would think that if he was able to figure that stuff out easily that the blueprints would be no sweat.

Does this episode continue the story at all or is it just flashbacks? I'd rather not download a flashback episode if I can avoid it (almost used up all of my bandwidth for the billing month)?

Nope, it's completely flashbacks. No scenes that continue the story whatsoever. I would say worth it's seeing sometime, but it could definitely wait in your situation.

Dude its completely worth watching. What are we retarded here =p. You get to know why the characters are where they are. Mainly the side characters, not Michael or Lincoln. And why they want to get out so bad. It gives us insight into all their motives and there soon to be actions. And not to mention we GET CONFIRMATION on

Well, it's pretty simple.

Well, most of that was already alluded to or straight out mentioned in other episodes. And while it was good to find out what crimes they committed to wind up at Fox River, it's not really an absolute necessity to the story. Not only that, but some of them were kind of pointless since they lacked more in depth explanation, mainly being Dr. Tancredi's. About the only person's reason for getting out that was completely new was T-Bag's, as we knew everyone else's already (Michael and Lincoln's we obviously knew, we knew about Sucre's fiancee already, and we knew about C-Note's family already).

Mucknuggle, they used DNA though, which is not simple.

Stem cell technology.

Didn't they say in the previous episode that you just take teeth molds? Please tell me how you get DNA from bone. I'd really like to know how calcium carbonate or wtv bone is contains cells.

I don't know, but I could have sworn they said something about DNA the episode prior. Maybe I am wrong though.

Just watched the episode. While some of the side stories seem worthless, it'd be interesting to see that some people are not as guilty as they should be, specifically the nigga. While not pertinent to the storyline, we get a glimpse at the motivations of some of the characters. Too bad there wasn't too much on german engineering... in the house.

Man, it seems like they are doing everything possible to screw these guys over. I mean, even when we find out that Michael really isn't crazy, he still might be screwed over.

And now with LJ in custody, I wonder what they'll do with him. Will they kill him off, or try to throw him in prison alongside his dad? I don't know, but this whole situation is pretty shitty.

I missed the episode. Totally slipped my mind :(

Yeah, Michael is basically getting nowhere and it seem like nobody is either. Now supposively they have a problem with their I mean even if they fix the problem, you would think the head guard(I forgot his name) would just have his whole cell searched with him thinking something is up for so long. And how is Michael going to get by the fact that the Psych Ward entrance guy saw him in the guards uniform and now he is the psych ward. How did he get in there without being seen anyway. Unless there was another psych guard on duty.

Sometimes this show gets so complicated I think that it will end with a Deus Ex Machina in which the Vice President is found out and everyone is let off the hook for everything.

The world of Prisonbreak is a complicated thing. They keep trying to reel me in, making me think the people are going to get caught. I know, though, that the guys will eventually escape. So it seems sort of pointless. The stuff outside is a distraction and not being handled like it should. I mean, whatever happened to the picture LJ took? I don't know. Maybe I'm just reading too much into this...

Great episode!
 

I just got to see this week's episode. Great! It was cool to see the gang fix the ground hole without Michael's help... Now I wonder how will he get out of the asylum once he has what he needs from Haywire.

And again: what happened to Abruzzi!?

But the guard that saw him mentioned how the prison guards never go to the asylum, so he might not remember him. He only saw him once.

Yeah. Did he lost the cell phone? I don't remember.

Technically, he saw him twice. Once coming in and once after Michael traveled around the ward for a while.

In one of the episode he drop the cell phone in a bathroom bus as a decoy because those "agents" was tracking him. So cell phone went one way while LJ went another.

...and why didn't he or those "attorney" think about sending the picture to another phone for evidents? o.o

I think he emailed the picture to himself from the phone actually.

I remember him doing something like that as well. Anybody know a place with in depth spoilers? I won't have time to watch any tv now since it's finals season and I'll want to get quickly caught up once they're over.

Just download them man. Why miss out on episodes?

I'd rather spend my download bandwidth on other things. I haven't been enjoying PB as much as I did before the huge break that it took.

Finally got around to watching this week's episode. Holy Shi~, what an episode. This one definitely re-raised all-in my interest in the show. Lotsa fun times in the show. I also liked how it went back to crazy man from Season 1. Good stuff.

I suppose something that's bothered me is the lack of Caller ID. The nigga calls his wifey "from Iraq." Wouldn't it say "PRISON" or something? Or maybe government/military phones block out caller ID or something. I don't know. Or we can give in to the possiblity she doesn't have caller ID, but that's gay. Cell phones in this show share the same problem too... unrecognized number... Y U ANSWER!?

Whatever, Prison Break is owning again. At least stuff is happening as opposed to that other show where I am so~ fucking LOST.

Well, technically this is still season 1, but it was great how they brought him back. The fact that they did makes me believe that we'll see Abruzzi again sometime this season.

Yeah. I just can't get into that show anymore like I could ast season. They overcomplicated things so much that you can't really just enjoy the show anymore. It's like you have to be looking out for every little clue or something. Sometimes I just like to watch TV, not play games.

I really like how the other prisoners are getting shit done on their own in the absence of Michael. It's really entertaining and gripping to watch how the situations unfold. With Michael it's "predictable" that he'll figure out something, but with the others, it's really brings out an "OSNAP" out of me.

Please tell me that truck came out of NOWHERE.

I'm psyched for next week as german engineering returns to the house.

Yeah, that's been the most enjoyable part of these last few episodes, especially since everybody doesn't like each other.

And I have to admit, I didn't see that truck coming. Looking back though, it seems kinda of obvious that something would happen (especially when Pope said this had never happened before).

Oh shit, is that really him? I'm just now realizing that they look similar.

Who look similar.

Wow... just wow. Great episode for this week. First I watch it on *coughHDcough*TV and again when my brother said to download it because he missed it because it was just THAT good. And I didn't see that truck coming either.

BZ, we were referring to that guy from the Volkswagen commercials, the one where that guy (who I now know is Abruzzi) is all like "German engineering in da house!".

Oh, yes, next week will be quite fun. With Michael back, Aburzzi back, and Linc on the lamb, it should be quite action-packed and filled with suspense. Anybody else wonder when/if Sucre is returning?

What, you mean when is he returning to Gen Pop? I mean, he's still been on the show, he's just been in the SHU along with Lincoln. I don't when he will go back with the others, though (especially since his old cell is gone now).

His old cell is gone? How? It's not like the sale went through without the officer there. And Michael is already back in that cell. So, I don't think his cell is gone. He's just not in it. I'm just wondering how long it'll be until he's back in it.

I thought Westmoreland ended up in the cell with Michael now, since he was there when Michael got back from the psych ward.

No, I think he was simply there to welcome him back. Since Westmoreland did not buy the cell, I don't see why he'd be in there now... unless the Pope gave it o him as partial compensation for the officer misconduct thing. But that seems unlikely to me.

WTF - attempted assassination via a_truck!

Why do you guys think that Abruzzi is coming back next week? Did they show it in next week's preview or something?

Yes, they did. He tries to make up with T-Bag, although I can't see anyone, let alone someone like Abruzzi, getting over their own attempted murder. Shit just isn't going to work out.

Needless to say, out of all the characters, T-Bag deserves to live the least. I imagine he'll die at some point in the series.

T-Bag is such a prick. I want him to die. The only thing that he's good for is rigging poker.

And providing us a nice villainous character to hate.

What are you guys talking about, I love T-Bag. I would actually go as far as saying that he's one of my favorite characters on the show. I just like how he provides the comic relief, and how he's so slimy.

i wish they didn't kill abruzi. he was one of my favorite characters. t-bag seems tobe the most cunning besides scofield. i believe he will prove to be essential to the escape

Admittedly, Tea-Bag has been working fairly hard at getting this escape to work.

I just thought of something. Did Michael tell the gang at some point that he escapes behind the toilet? Because is seemed like common knowledge and I don't remember it being addressed before.

Well, they did know he could get in and out of his cell, so I guess common sense tells them that he has to have a hole somewhere in there. So the most likely place for that hole would have to be somewhere where it could have been easily made (or most likely already made), and somewhere where the guards couldn't see it.

But the short answer is no, I don't think Michael (or Sucre) ever told the others about the toliet.

hmm i probably shouldn't have read that spoiler. hahah:biggrin:

I can't say I'm feelin' this whole MGS2-Patriots-government-on-top-of-the-government idea, much less from someone like Lincoln's dad (dad, right?). "Oh by the way, I may not look it, but I'm part of the supergovernment." It isn't the concept itself so much as the sudden expository execution. They could have pulled it off much better. You'd imagine that they'd have to choose a better place for hiding. Realistically, surveillance in the world is too great to get away with this kind of thing. Satellites alone could have found them easily.

I have to admit, that wasn't the greatest episode. Since the comeback, they've been showing pretty good episodes (except the flashback one), but this one really wasn't that good. They went from revealing a little of the plot per episode to massive amounts in this one. That would usually be a good thing, but it just didn't work in this episode.

The best part about this episode was definitely Abruzzi, especially the scene with T-Bag in the cell. But even he suffered from the 'too much plot revealed' syndrome. They could have stretched out the whole 'is he good or not' thing over a couple more episodes, just to keep the tension up between him and T-Bag.

And yeah, the whole thing with Lincoln's dad was just pretty stupid, especially a lot of his explantions. I understand needing a plot for next season, but it's starting to get a little too convoluted for it's own good.

I did sort of like the development between Scofield and Sara, but it was a little too fast... Well, not too fast. It's like I could understand them kissing, but then again there wasn't enough leading up to that particular kiss at that moment; not their relationship in general. I'm a bit confused as to why she was pissed at him after finding out he planned to escape; perhaps she felt she was being used and he had no feelings for her at all. I could see myself in Scofield's position telling her the deal much earlier on; it might have been easier for them that way, but then again it might have ruined it for them entirely.

I'm definitely interested in seeing how they escape with Captain Bellick knowing they're planning it and also having proof. If he doesn't get to stop them officially I can totally see him trying to stop them personally.

Or was telling him part of Scofield's plan?...

I don't know, I find that hard to believe. I mean, he never really told Tweener that they were escaping since he wouldn't steal the key for him (making him resort to using Sara). It seems more like Tweener just inferred it from putting all the facts together and just told Bellick to hurry up and save his ass. I just don't really see how this could help Michael's plan anyway, whether he did it purposely or not.

i agree. i feel sorry for tweener though.

Great thing Abruzzi is back! But what's with Savrinn? Is he friends with the bad guys, the good guys and Abruzzi too? Is he into the mafia?

How come there're three more episodes? For how long can they prevent Bellick from telling everyone about the escape plan? I hope they're not trying to delay the escape to a second season...

I don't know, I could imagine Bellick going crazy and trying to burn Michael but somehow getting pre-emptively burned instead. I don't think they can try to escape and have Bellick hunting them simultaneously. Even if they try to make a mad dash, guards would shoot them down before they get away. (Presumably presumably presumably.)

The last part where Bellick went crazy in the guard's room was classic. If Michael had planned it out, I guess the only reasoning is to make Bellick emotionally unstable; yet still I can't see any further benefit for them. In a sense, if squealing somehow saves Tweener's life but made their breakout more difficult, I would have still vouched for Tweener. I have alot of sympathy for him.

Ok. Is Michael retarded? Why the heck did he tell Tweener about their plan.

Also, evil stares from the Doc. :1zhelp:

I figured he just thought that his girl wasnt going to help him so he wanted to do tell him to steal it off her. However, this could be explaned next ep.

Finally got around to watching this week's episode.

Prison Break is fucking crazy. Evil stares from the doc are hot. HOT, I say. I caught the preview for next week despite not watching the episode at the time. I'm hyped up, and PB has yet to disappoint me since its return last month. I wanna be like Mike.

The only problem I had with the episode was T-Bag continuing to attempt to kill Abruzzi, even after they've made amends. I understand that after Abruzzi initially returned, he might have done it because he was possibly afraid Abruzzi would come for revenge. But after this was gone, the only reason for T-Bag to kill him would be just because he wants to... and maybe that's all the writers really give us.

T-Bag wants Abruzzi dead because he has the good sense to not believe a word he's saying and knows what's coming eventually if he does nothing about it.

Yeah, the writers showed that he didn't really change anyway as he's blackmailing Nick somehow, which is most likely his way to get at Michael (through Veronica) should anything go wrong involving him.

Okay, last week's preview turned out to be a lie.

Did this just finish or is it on now? I keep on forgetting to watch it when it airs.

usually airs at 9, at least for EST.

No it always airs at 8pm. And this episode owned too.

Don't know how the fuck they are going to go about escaping clean.

How so? It said that it was covering the last three episodes, so I knew all the stuff they showed wouldn't be in this week's epispde.

But anyway, I have to say that this episode was really good. Really fucking good. I actually got out of my seat a few times during the episode (starting right at the beginning with Westmoreland owning Bellick). Man, I can't wait until next week now!

Great. I missed it. Oh well, I'll just download it and watch it some time later like I usually do.

Okay I must have missed the part where it said the escape would cover a few episodes. I thought they were totally escaping today.

Yeah, I thought that at first too. But you have to listen carefully to the wording of that preview to figure out that they mean over the three episodes. I didn't even catch until I saw it a second time.

I hope Charles makes it. He's one of the most sympathetic of the characters. Not looking too good now though. Says something about his character that he didn't just go and kill Bellick.

What the fuck. How are they going to escape with the warden knowing about it?

Wow!
 

As the time to escape gets closer they're starting to lose it... I mean Westmorland, C-Note and Michael! That was crazy! What does he expect Pope to do?

Wait... how was the guy that got peroxide thrown in his eyes able to see? Shouldn't he be like, permanently blinded from that shit?

No, I don't think so. What would make you think that?

I guess it would depend on the concentration of the peroxide... but I just love the way they threw in the hissing sound of chemical-burning skin, and yet when they showed the guy later... not so much as a single blister. Hell, not even a mild rash :p

Yeah, I definitely thought that. I just got around to watching the episode finally. There was like 3 minutes left, and I was like, "...morose mother fuckers..." They definitely showed some clips from last week that didn't happen in this week's. :/

I'll probably miss the coming episode again, so it'll be a while until I see the escape, but I'm cised.

I definitely enjoyed the little musical number where it went through each characters stories in brief flashback style. The next episode needs to be legendary.

It would probably be better if they showed the next two episodes back-to-back, but the only way to do that would be to move the show to another (crappier) night. It would be cool though, as we could see the escape followed by the pursuit and see how they end the season.

Also, a spoiler, if people are curious (it's not specific, though):

Was this episode not interesting enough to bump this thread? There were parts that were somewhat exciting, but overally it was kind of an average episode. You'd think escaping would be more interesting.

Also, fat guy didn't make it. Sucks for him.

Honestly, I forgot after I posted in the 24 thread (which was way better tonight).

First off, how the hell did Haywire even get there? I don't remember for sure, but didn't they start showing those sequences from his point of view before they even reached the Psych Ward? And even if they didn't, it still doesn't make sense how he managed to elude going back inside the Psych Ward with the first group. Even saying he was straggiling behind Michael's group doesn't make sense, as it seems that at least one of them would have seen him.

Next, are we even supposed to care that Nick died? I had no sympathy for him, even after he didn't give up Veronica to Abruzzi. That's just one less character to worry about next season.

Finally, hate to say it, but the fat ass deserved to get caught. Why, after waiting all that time anyway, would he even try to cross when Michael was still on there? That was just plain stupid of him, so I can't say I feel sorry for him.

Now that they are finally out, thereshould be some pretty interesting episodes. Too bad there's only one left this season. And I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't really see how this show could last more than one more season (I couldn't even see it lasting a full season next year). They're out, they go on the run, they clear Lincoln, we find out all the conspiracies, the end. I don't see how they could do that beyond 22 more episodes, unless this changes into some type of action, mystery-solving detective show.

I don't see how they could retain the same level of suspense with them out of prison. And for them to go back to prison or to a different prison would just be exhausting.

But obviously there's some issues that need to be resolved that would have to be rushed. For example, when Scofield finds out about the 5mil, it looks like the other characters are pretty much plotting to steal that.

I still expect next season to fail.

Also, the fat guy wouldn't have made it, anyway. He's fat, simple as that. Couldn't outrun anyone. He should have been smart enough to not even try to cross and later say he was forced to participate or something.

Yeah, that $5 million just seems like a way of trying to create suspense for next season, cause you know there is no way they're gonna actually split it like Westmoreland suggested. I wouldn't be surprised if at least one person is killed over it (probably Tweener, cause there ain't much they can do with his character outside of the prison, especially since he didn't have a fleshed out backstory like the others).

Wait, was that the season finale? What a let down.

Also, keep in mind that they haven't escaped yet. They've still got the police and their dogs to deal with.

No, the season finale is next week. That would have been disappointing if it was, though. That's why I still think they should have made the season finale two hours.

Ya, the two hour version would have been much better. I like how nobody cares about the guy that got killed.

Well, Nick wasn't a very sympathetic character. I felt more sorry for Westmorland.

Anyway, this episode was great! The actual escape! Awesome! And Haywire, what was he doing there? But most of them made it. This escape was way better than what Michael had originally planned!

My favorite part was when the fat guy fell. I was just waiting for him to try to escape. I knew that he was going to crash ever since they zoomed in and showed the stress on the cable.

I'm actually surprised that he managed to fit through the hole behind the toliet in the first place. It didn't really look that big.

Finally got around to watching this week's episode. Holy amazing. I swear, the previews for 2 weeks ago and last week were all for the finale. I think I've only seen two or three preview scenes that have occured in the last 2 episodes. Whatever. the escape is beast. Now it's time to RUN LIKE MAD.

He used TV Magic to temporarily shrink. Either that or he got stuck and they had to kick him through. :P

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So by "in its entirety", I'm gonna assume they mean commercial-free, since leaving them in would also delay 24 (which is supposed to a "non-stop season"). That's actually not too bad, as I don't mind waiting an extra twenty minutes to see it without commercials.

I don't trust this at all. Very rarely are shows 40 minutes or below. We are going to get screwed one way or another unless they extend 24 passed Seinfeld into the 10 o clock time.

Well, hourlong shows are usually around 44 minutes without commercials. If they cut out the 'previously on' segment and the credits, they could cut that down to about 42 minutes, which wouldn't hurt 24 too bad (all they would have to do is show a few less commercials during it). I don't know if they'll actually do that, though.

Damnit. We're not going to get to see our season finale. Presidential speeches suck.

I don't even get why they specifically need to carry it, when they know like 10 other channels will as well.

The FOX web site claims all time zones will see Prison Break and 24 in its entirety. Eastern and Central will just be delayed. I assume this means we're gonna have commercials then, and it'll just overrun past 10.

Well that's gonna suck for 24 then, since the times won't match up anymore. Not really a big factor of the show, but I like seeing the same time on my clock when they show it on the show.

I missed the last 10 minutes or so due to Grey's Anatomy, what happened? I saw the last bit with the plane flying off and they were running into the field. The last thing that I remember before that is them failing to hotwire a car due to it not having an engine.

Whew! Where to start?

First off, the most surprising moment was when we find out that it was the President who died, and not the Vice-President. I honestly never really gave a fuck about her storyline, but this twist was fucking great. It looked like this was gonna be by the books, but the way the pulled it off was fucking amazing. That moment had me jumping out of my seat and cheering.

Next, it's funny how the people they never wanted there in the first place are gonna be the only ones to escape. Haywire, Tweener, and T-Bag seem to be the only ones who even stand a chance at escaping at the moment. T-Bag is probably the least likely, but I would say he has more of a chance than Michael and the others do right now. Also, that was pretty fucked up what they did to T-Bag, but I can't say that he didn't deserve it for cuffing himself to Michael in the first place.

Also, I'm wondering about Westmoreland. Is he actually dead or not? The way they showed him it was hard to tell, but since they never talked about him for the rest of the episode, I'm more inclined to believe that he is dead. Oh well, there wasn't much he could do anyway, since, unlike the fatass, I doubt he would have said anything anyway.

As for Dr. Tancredi, can't say I would blame her for wanting to overdose, though I don't for sure if she's dead or not. If I had to guess, I would say she is, as there really isn't anything else she could do storywise.

And as for Michael and the gang, I really don't know what's going to happen to them. Looking at how it ended, it looks pretty hopeless for them, but if they actually do get caught again, it seems like it would be nearly impossible for them to escape again. My guess is that they will come back with some kind of twist that helps them get away from Bellick and the others. As for what that twist would be, I have no idea what it could be.

Overall, this was a pretty good season. It probably would have worked better if they hadn't had so many breaks during the season, but once you see it all it's still good. This will definitely be one of the better shows returning to TV in the fall. I would also consider getting this on DVD, though I don't know if I'll get it immediately when it comes out.

Anyway, next season will probably be different in some way. They most likely will escape, since they will be filming in a different location next season. I heard on the news that they will start filming the next season up in Dallas starting on June 15. Since they're here in Texas, they might be trying to represent Mexico in some way. I don't really know, but I figure it must be something like that since they're leaving the Chicago area.

Basically, they managed to run to the airstrip, but the plane took off before they got there, leaving them running into an empty field as the police chased after them.

Also, Haywire stole a little girl's bike, and was last seen peddaling away in the middle of the street.

Tweener managed to sneak inside of a trailer that was carrying some horses. They last showed it passing by a sign that said St. Louis was 296 miles away.

Veronica confronted Terrance Steadman at his house in Montana.

The police went to Dr. Tancredi's house and found her possibly overdosed on morphine.

I think that's everything.

I didn't like this finale. I guess I feel like it ended just like any other episode this season. There is a fair cliffhanger and a decent amount of uncertainty.

Although to be honest I did miss half of the episode thanks to me not giving a flying fuck what Bush has to say and wanting to avoid hearing his voice all together. By the time I turned FOX back on I realized I had missed a good chunk of development.

I am sad the doctor died, she was a very nice (sexy!) woman and I'm sure they could have found a way for her to be relevant. It really broke my heart to see her dead, no joke. She may not be dead, but she looked very dead, especially by the color of her skin. Didn't look like blood was flowing anymore. Maybe they can revive her.

I am very curious as to how next season will play out. If the characters spend a good amount of time running from the cops it might be okay as long as that element of suspense is maintained. If they let the government conspiracy overshadow this, I could very easily see it being cancelled due to lack of interest. I don't imagine the show was meant to last more than one season originally, although I could be wrong.

I doubt that. The networks usually try to invest in shows that they'll believe will be successful, meaning long-lasting. I don't think they would have put it on the air at all if it couldn't be made to last more than one season. Take the show Reunion for example. It was made to be a one season thing, but even they had a plan on what to do in case it became mega-popular (which of course, it didn't).

Basically, they've been saying from the beginning that this season would be about them breaking out, and that the next season (if it were to happen, which we know will now) would be similar to The Fugitive, having them on the run while trying to prove Lincoln innocent. I don't know how much they will stick to this plan, but it shows that they did have plans for it to last more than one season.

ABRUZZI WITH THE AX. Holy fucking shit that was awesome. This epic was fun. The whole escape from last episode and this was frikkin intense. And now the "cliffhanger" for next season, it's like... holy crap, now what.

Haywire's football helmet. OLOL.

Veronica meets Terrance Steadman. What the hell is she gonna do...

Is Sara[h?] dead? OSNAP.

Madame President. Earth is finished. And a few weeks ago we were talking about ending women's suffrage. What the hell happened.

Did they chop T-Bag's hand off?

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Yup. Serves the guy right too, swallowing the key and all.

T-Bag's hand is gone, DB Cooper and Dr. Tancreti are pushing up daises, and we're farther away from the truth than ever before.

God, this show is so full of "finales" that just quite aren't, that leave us right back where we started, wondering what the heck is going to happen next and waiting. And waiting. And waiting. :aargh:

So now we get to wait for yet more months. Luckily Hell's Kitchen is coming on again this season, which should help pass the time.

Awesome I just found out my cousins godfather is going to be in the second season of Prison Break. SWEEEEEEEEET. The guy is very good.

I am sure you guys know him http://imdb.com/name/nm0001209/

I've heard of the guy joining the cast, but I've never seen any of his other work.

Also, make your cousin make him give us some inside information, even though we don't have to wait that long for the next season to begin (already just a little over a month to go).

William Fichtner to be in the second season of Prison Break? That's awesome news indeed. He's a very talented guy and easily one of my favorite actors.

There's already a Season 2 Discussion Thread here, so I guess I should close this one. Sorry about that!