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Grawl May 29, 2006 05:13 PM

Blood on the Asphalt - A Super Street Fighter 2 ReMix Collabration
 
http://sf2.ocremix.org/

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Blood on the Asphalt is a tribute album to the music of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo, its contents comprised of new arrangements of old, familiar songs from the original game soundtrack, created by various artists, unified along the lines of genre and tone. The arrangements contained herein have been designed to be evocative of dark, pseudo-romanticized urban imagery: abandoned playgrounds and crowded street markets; back-alley block parties and hole-in-the-wall bar dives, scenes that are, I hope, befitting of a tribute to one of the most iconic games in arcade history. So sit back and download. I hope you dig it, and if you do, drop us a line. We'd be happy to hear from you.
-Shael

value tart May 29, 2006 06:57 PM

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.

I LOVE STREET FIGHTER REMIXES.

*download*

Mucknuggle May 29, 2006 07:40 PM

Great! Time to download this and listen to it instead of Tool. Thanks for the info Grawl.

Mucknuggle May 31, 2006 06:25 AM

The rap tracks are just horrible. Why did they ruin the songs like that?

Luphurix Jun 2, 2006 01:35 PM

If by dark, pseudo-romanticized urban imagery: abandoned playgrounds and crowded street markets; back-alley block parties and hole-in-the-wall bar dives they mean generic techno that 99% of amateur remixes sound like then okay.

Dhsu Jun 2, 2006 02:16 PM

Do you happen to have any examples of songs that meet your definition of non-generic techno? (Or regular amateur techno for that matter...most of these don't resemble any form of techno I'm familiar with.)

If you don't like it, that's fine...no need to be a smart aleck about it though.

Cobra Commander Jun 2, 2006 03:57 PM

Wow, another arrangement of SF remixes eh? I gotta dl this. Seems like my personal favs are the Guile and Ken remixes

eriol33 Jun 2, 2006 10:15 PM

Any arrangement of Dan's theme? Joshua morse's addictive arrangement has made me a big fan of his theme.

José Jun 3, 2006 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
The rap tracks are just horrible. Why did they ruin the songs like that?

I know, seriously... those two tracks screwed up the whole "urban" mood they were going for.

Mucknuggle Jun 3, 2006 07:30 AM

I can't bring myself to listen through every track. The vocal pieces are just bad. I always stop at the first vocal ending track. Ugh. Terrible. What happened to the quality check on those vocal tracks?!

Dhsu Jun 3, 2006 11:18 AM

Are you being sarcastic? :confused:

Liontamer Jun 3, 2006 05:09 PM

Just another dumb rap-hater. Couldn't give a fuck what he says if he's biased from the outset.

José Jun 3, 2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
Are you being sarcastic? :confused:

Man, I hope so. :biggrin:

Mucknuggle Jun 4, 2006 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Liontamer
Just another dumb rap-hater. Couldn't give a fuck what he says if he's biased from the outset.

How would you know whether I'm a rap hater or not? Seems like you're the only one here making biased accusations.

The vocals in the ending themes and the rap tracks are terrible.

Dhsu Jun 4, 2006 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
How would you know whether I'm a rap hater or not?

Well...are you?

Mucknuggle Jun 4, 2006 10:25 PM

I enjoy good rap. A good portion of my music collection is made up of the stuff. The rap tracks on this compilation however are not good tracks.

Obviously, the musician that made the tracks and one of the people responsible for quality checking the compilation are not going to agree with me. There was no need for flaming though.

Dhsu Jun 4, 2006 11:40 PM

Your comments weren't exactly what most would consider constructive either. You could've provided suggestions instead of just bashing people, and told us why those tracks are don't qualify as good rap.

Mucknuggle Jun 5, 2006 02:32 AM

Look, this is not a forum to give you OCR guys constructive criticism. This is a forum to discuss our thoughts towards music. I have no obligation to tell you guys how to improve your stuff, nor should you expect that from everybody here. I posted my thoughts on the music and that's that. I've done nothing wrong. If you want some criticism on your work, look elsewhere (like the OCR forums).

Dhsu Jun 5, 2006 09:47 AM

Oh, so when other people insult you, it's "flaming," but when you insult other people, it's an "opinion"?

Mucknuggle Jun 5, 2006 05:40 PM

What are you even talking about? I said that the rap was bad. That is not an insult. Get off your high horse.

Dhsu Jun 5, 2006 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
What happened to the quality check on those vocal tracks?!

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Why did they ruin the songs like that?

You attacked both the person who arranged the songs and the person in charge of quality control. Those are insults.

watkinzez Jun 6, 2006 08:34 PM

VAMOS DEEJAY

Ya guys seriously it sucked.

Render Jun 6, 2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
Look, this is not a forum to give you OCR guys constructive criticism. This is a forum to discuss our thoughts towards music. I have no obligation to tell you guys how to improve your stuff, nor should you expect that from everybody here. I posted my thoughts on the music and that's that. I've done nothing wrong. If you want some criticism on your work, look elsewhere (like the OCR forums).

I'll say that, first, I haven't bothered to listen to any of this collection. I just thought I would state that I totally agree with the statement that we shouldn't be obliged to give CC here. OCR is there for a reason.

edit: I listened to a lot of the tracks and I think that the music is top-notch. The rapping? Not as as bad as Mucknuggle says, but I think it could use a little work.

Mucknuggle Jun 6, 2006 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
You attacked both the person who arranged the songs and the person in charge of quality control. Those are insults.

Wow. You're REALLY stretching it. Those are not insults. Why are you dragging this on and on? Take your bitching to the OCR forums.

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Originally Posted by rendr
I'll say that, first, I haven't bothered to listen to any of this collection. I just thought I would state that I totally agree with the statement that we shouldn't be obliged to give CC here. OCR is there for a reason. Are there even any of the remixers here to give CC to?

That Jose guy is the one that made those rap tracks on the compilation that I find terrible. The guy getting on my case FOR NO REASON is also an OCRemixer. Oh, and the dude that insulted me is an OCR judge. So basically the OCR Bandwagon decided to gang up on me because I said that I didn't like 4 tracks on this compilation.

Shaolin Samurai Jun 6, 2006 10:49 PM

The Fei Long remix is far and away my favorite track.

Dhsu Jun 6, 2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
So basically the OCR Bandwagon decided to gang up on me because I said that I didn't like 4 tracks on this compilation.

I'm fine with people not liking it, but you said more than that. My point, and the reason I brought this whole thing up, is that even though you might not have directly insulted them, your comments were uncalled for and totally unnecessary with respect to conveying your honest opinion about the tracks. What sort of reaction were you expecting after writing something like that? I'm not saying Liontamer's flaming was justified, but it was certainly understandable.

And I'll leave it at that, so we can get back to the reviews. Sorry about the derail.

José Jun 7, 2006 12:15 AM

It's almost sad when I say I completely expected the wide range of opinions over these two tracks. Here's the deal: hip-hop, more than any other genre of music - except maybe country - has the largest share of irrational haters willing to express their sentiments, unsolicited. It's almost as certain as death and taxes. So Liontamer and other folks may need to be excused if what they see looks like the several thousand other ignorant opinions offered during any "rap" discussion. By the same token, people offering those bad opinions - and believe when I say they're all really appreciated - ought to be prepared to give a level of explanation somewhat higher than the drive-by nature of "songs are ruined" and "ya, it sucks." You don't have to be constructive; just make some kind of sense. That was the point of my "devil's advocate" post here: "just what was ruined, exactly?" I'm a big boy, I can take it.

As far as Dee Jay, from my site: "I actually don't like reggaeton much - like latin freestyle during the 80's, only about 5% of the tracks among this pile of garbage are quite decent in my opinion. Anyway, as in 'Unknown from M.C.,' this is all quite toungue-in-cheek: lyrical content headquarters this ain't."

Just like real reggaeton.

niki Jun 7, 2006 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dhsu
You attacked both the person who arranged the songs and the person in charge of quality control. Those are insults.

Listen dude, if an artist doesnt want his creations critizised, he keeps his art to himself and his mum.

Monkey King Jun 7, 2006 11:25 AM

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Posted by Dhsu
You attacked both the person who arranged the songs and the person in charge of quality control. Those are insults.
Welcome to the internet.

This is not Creative Commons, and negative feedback is not taboo here. If you're quailing and afraid of people saying mean things about yours or someone else's work, you may as well go hold these discussions on OCR's own boards where you can coddle one another and delete any posts that even hint of negativity.

That said, my impressions of the remix project as a whole: as expected, hit and miss, much like what you find on OCR in general.

The blind hatred of rap/hip hop is pretty irrational (even though the bulk of those genres ARE total crap), and I thought it worked for Blanka's theme quite well. Deejay's theme transitioned surprisingly well too, even though I don't really care for rap at all. Wasn't quite as appropriate for Vega, though. T. Hawk's theme was really nicely done. The idea of writing an entire remix around the high score jingle is hilarious, in a good way.

The low points: Chun-Li's theme felt more like the artists were trying to compose around the original song, like it was an obstacle. Minus points to the same artists for ruining all the nice chords in Cammy's theme, too. Guile and Zangief's theme are both just awful; calling it "trance" is not a free ticket to be lazy with a synthesizer.

Akuma's theme was okay, but God help me, the usage of percussion there made me think it sounded like the soundtrack to hardcore porn.

And one overarching critique, that applies to the good tracks as well as the bad. With a compilation title like "Blood on the Asphalt", you'd expect that all the tracks would be songs you could cue up in place of the original soundtrack and beat someone's ass with. This is why people are rightly fingering Fei Long's theme as the standout track in this collection. Most of the tracks are too darn slow.

Dhsu Jun 7, 2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkey King
Welcome to the internet.

This is not Creative Commons, and negative feedback is not taboo here. If you're quailing and afraid of people saying mean things about yours or someone else's work, you may as well go hold these discussions on OCR's own boards where you can coddle one another and delete any posts that even hint of negativity.

Being negative is different from being mean. You can give criticism without being rude. All I was saying is that if you say mean things about people, don't be surprised if people say mean things back.

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Originally Posted by Monkey King
The blind hatred of rap/hip hop is pretty irrational (even though the bulk of those genres ARE total crap), and I thought it worked for Blanka's theme quite well. Deejay's theme transitioned surprisingly well too, even though I don't really care for rap at all.

Reminds me of the SF3:3rd Strike soundtrack. Decent, if not slightly kooky in the lyrics department. :P

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Guile and Zangief's theme are both just awful; calling it "trance" is not a free ticket to be lazy with a synthesizer.
I myself was a little dubious about the lead in Guile...it was like SF2:Kindergarten Edition or something.

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And one overarching critique, that applies to the good tracks as well as the bad. With a compilation title like "Blood on the Asphalt", you'd expect that all the tracks would be songs you could cue up in place of the original soundtrack and beat someone's ass with. This is why people are rightly fingering Fei Long's theme as the standout track in this collection. Most of the tracks are too darn slow.
Actually, somebody did just that and I must say, it works quite well. (Torrent)


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