Clerks 2! ...they still don't like you.
 

Personally, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty stoked about seeing Clerks 2! Even more now that its been moved up from August 18th to July 21st!
I like the fact that they were on a budget restraint of 5 Millions, which forces them to squeeze the most out of it, visually and script-wise. Also, even if I like them sometimes, Jay and Silent Bob have as much screen time as the first movie, which worked great because they come in small dosage. I'd like to add that Jeff Anderson's delivery have improved 100% since the first movie, it's quite noticeable in the Cartoon as well as in the released footage down there. "Terrorists? ....Argh. I left the coffee pot on again, didn't I?". Such an awesome voice.

I've packed together all the trailers released in theatres and on the internet since they give the tome for the movie and also, they kick a lot of behinds.

1st Internet Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHkdj...rch=Clerks%202

2nd Internet Trailer (My favorite!!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeAgP...rch=Clerks%202

Theatrical Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVsjx...rch=Clerks%202

Cannes Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhu_qDdGSNU

Enjoy! ...or die. Slowly. Of aging. ...maybe not.

For some reason I havent even seen the first one yet, even though I have the DVD. So I need to catch up.

Was it me or was Silent Jay dabbling in a bit of Hardcore Dancing in that trailer?

He's always dancing like crazy in front of stores or shops, just like in the first one.

I escpecially like the bit in the first Internet trailer where you see his silhouette and he's being shown dancing in slow-mo.

Wow, I can't wait to see this. I didn't even know it was coming out!

Thank you so much :D

No problem!

Now, spread the word my brother/sister! And fly!! ...or walk, whatever you can do the best.

Ack, I wish they had just continued the Animated Series.

I swear, it was the funniest thing Kevin Smith has ever been involved in.

Randal is the best character ever.

Apparantly it got an 8 minute standing ovation at Cannes.

I haven't even seen the first one :(

The animated series was freaking awesome. But like The Critic, genius was stomped out ;___;

Lookin' forward to it =D

The animated series had the potential to be a suitable Family Guy replacement. They just never gave it enough time to live up to its potential. Blasphemy!

Needless to say, I am pumped about this movie, and even more since I no longer will have to choose between this and Snakes on a Plane on August 18th.

I like the teaser better. Can't wait to watch some more of Randall's bs XD.

Clerks couldve also been a tv series (real life characters) and be shown on hbo..

Hahaha. The trailers were fantastic. All of em got me to laugh.

This movie is deemed worthy enough for me to plop down money for.

Clerks is actually not my favourite Kevin Smith movie at all. It's better than Jay & Silent Bob Strike back, but I find that the others are all preferable to me. The animated series was great, though. I'm just not so sure if I found the characters interesting enough to watch a sequel.

I love Kevin Smith's work, but I found the last one to be a bridge too far. I'm thinking it would be better for me if I just stopped watching his movies now, unless he comes up with something new that doesn't involve his pre-existing characters. I don't want to remember the franchise as a played-out, over-exploited cash-cow. Does anyone else feel that way?

I kind of agree, but I say who cares as long as the movies are good. The only real flop (which I really liked) was Jersey Girl. All the others are fantastic in their own way, my personal fave being Chasing Amy.

You and me both. I always thought that the line "I finally had something personal to say" was meant to be appreciated on more than one level.

Let's not forget that the Clerks Animated Feature is still on, guys. :-P

I think this will be a significant come back from Jersey Girl. I think thats the most important thing Smithites are looking for.

Personally I am looking forward to this because I'm a fan of Clerks and the animated series. The only thing is waiting all the way untill August will kind of suck.

Fixed! They moved it up a few weeks!

Oh nice. Now I can see snakes on a plane the day it comes out. :)

July 21? That's the same day I'm seing Dave Matthews band over in Cheyenne.

Curses...

I have to say that I feel that Kevin Smith has.. sold out.. What the hell? He clearly said that Jay and Silent Bob Strike back was the end of the Saga..

I don't know.. 10 year after the fact that it happen they finally made a sequel to a movie that rock but was really about... nothing at all..

1- Smith 'sold out' when he received money when he sold CLERKS to Miramax.

2- CLERKS isn't about 'nothing', you missed the whole point, which wasn't that hard to find really. You're simply in for the dick 'n fart jokes.

Nice try though.

It was a movie about nothing in the sense that it's not some moving story about whatever...Sort of like MallRats was a movie about... Nothing. A day in the life of them.

The sold out comment was more based on the fact that Kevin Smith said "no more Jay and Silent Bob". The Jersey Saga was over but now he comes out with this? 10 years after the fact that Clerks came out.. what's next? Mall Rats 2, 20 years after.

He did say that Jay and Bob would never come back but Jason Mewes, his best friend and the one playing Jay had been fighting a terrible drug addiction, mainly heroïn. He was a mess, his teeths had fallen, etc. When he was on the verge of succeeding his therapy to quit, Kevin told him that if he would quit completely, he would make another Jay and Silent Bob movie. He was thinking about doing a Clerks 2 for sometime now, because he had something to say and Clerks was the best vehicle for it.

As for Mallrats 2, it'd be rather unlikely, but if it were to come true, if done right, I wouldn't mind.

He still has ideas for Mallrats 2: Die Hard in a Mall which if he ever did it would be a comic book!

I'm glad he hasn't closed the book completely on the View Askewniverse - at the time of Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back he said he wanted to go out before the characters had outstayed their welcome... problem was I think they still have a lot of life left in them... heck, Clerks 2 confirms that Dante and Randal are still very relevent characters and have worthwhile stories to be told. Also he confirmed at Vulgarthon that the next few projects will be non Askewniverse stuff but he will definately revisiting his little universe again in the future :D

Silent Jay?

given that Kevin Smith's movies are among my favorites, I've been following the progress of this movie for two years, and it's the sequel to one of the movies that had a big impact on myself, I'm more than a little excited.

we've still got Clerks Sell-Out to look forward to. and Ranger Danger. but knowing Kevin, it'll be a while. something always comes up.

Damn, so happy this isn't coinciding with "muthafuckin' SANKES!!" anymore. I mean, sure, I would have likely chosen this, but all my friends were aiming for SoaP, so it would have been a little less enjoyable without them. And I can't believe the celebrities in this! Not complaining, but wow. Earl and Randy? I love My Name is Earl, so I rofl'd. Jason Lee kicks ass. There was also that one black lady with the weird voice, and that guy who looked somewhat Tarantino-ish. I think he was on ALIAS. Oh well. It still looks to be pretty good, maybe a little less serious than the original, closer in comparison to Mallrats. Either way, I'm happy.

EDIT: And holee shit, I've been an idiot this whole time. I never knew that Jason Lee played Brody in Mallrats. Damn, how could I miss that?

Wtf it's not black and white?

From the trailers, I have a feeling it won't be as good as number 1.

Well really that goes for all sequels. The second movie is almost always not as good as the first. Still that doesn't mean it'll be bad by any means.

why would they film it in black and white if they can afford to do it in color? that doesn't make any sense at all.
the only reason Clerks was even in black and white was because Kevin, Mosier, and Dave didn't want to worry about color temperature and lighting in an already cramped environment.

Some people feel that by adding color is loses the "feeling" of the original.

Ofcourse some people are idiots.

THREE NEW CLIPS from the movie!

They are friggin' hilarious and just shows about Smith never lost his touch for good dialogue!

http://ropeofsilicon.com/features/20...rks2/index.php

ENJOY!

Oh, classic shit here. I would definitely go see this movie, were it not for the fact that there has never been a good sequel to a movie. Ever.

EVER.

- Aliens
- Die Hard 3
- Empire Strikes Back
- Robocop 2
- The Devil's Rejects
- And many more...

It's an opinion matter but the quality of those sequels can't be denied.

The Empire Strikes back doesn't count, that was meant to be a trilogy, so it really doesn't count as a sequel.

The others... yeah, that's definitely a matter of opinion. The Devil's Rejects, for example, I thought was a terrible movie.

And also, who said anything about quality? I don't care how good a movie is made and how well it looks. If it sucks (like Devil's Rejects), then it's still worth shit to me.

The Godfather Part 2 - It won Best Picture for Christ sake.
Toy Story 2
X2
Gremlins 2
Aliens
Dawn of the Dead
Back to the Future 2 (3 was kinda shitty)
Army of Darkness
About 15 Bond Movies
Rocky II
Rocky III
Rocky IV
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (I know it's technically a prequel)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Road Warrior
TERMINATOR 2: Judgement Day

While Lucas was did have some of the ideas for Empire in place while making Star Wars (it wasn't ANH until it was rereleased in 1981), it was still then unknown if Empire would ever be made. It wasn't a "planned" Trilogy (ala LOTR), it counts.

Empire Strikes Back

Did you prepare all month for someone to knock sequels on a whole? If I wasn't mistaken, it sure seems like you had that list ready. Did you clap once you posted your reply?

Of course I was exaggerating, but I am very weary about sequels on a whole, there have been more bad than good, I must say. Also the thing I really meant to say "the sequel is never as good as the original". I didn't mean to say that all sequels suck. The fault is mine, I suppose.

PS: Very interesting about the Star Wars thing. Didn't know that either.

No, it took me a few minutes and a look at my DVD collection.

I just know more about movies than you do.

Probably more about anthropology too. No one asked about that either, though.

Oooohhhh, bbuuurrrrrrnnnnnn!!

..no wait, you suck.

Ooooh, I can tell you're just in a league of your own, aren't you?

Superman 2
Batman Returns
Spiderman 2
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn

You, when you said that there has never been a good sequel ever.
"Good" (From your words) which is a term to denote amount or having instristic elements of quality in this case. It could also mean as opposing to evil or something that is enjoyable.



what



...Getting back to Clerks 2, was there any real reason Kevin Smith dropped the "The Passion of the Clerk" subtitle or was it just easier to say "Clerks 2"? I almost want to see it in color this time, but I also want to see it in B&W like the original. Maybe if it were to pull a Sin City and have only certain elements in the film in color, unimportant stuff like store merchandise or whatever... just to fuck with the audience or something.

WHOA. This is NOT a good movie to bring up when talking about good sequels.

I already went through this with acid, where I retracted my statement and rephrased it.

Just read a little bit more up, shouldn't be that much of a struggle, even for you... yup, right up. Right there. You got it.

Should teach me to watch my every little word, eh?

You left some things unanswered, specifically the part I said "what" to, Because it still needs some sort of explanation.

If you are referring to you editing your statements (As you said in the first quote in this post), they appear the same as when I quoted them, as I just looked right now.

Otherwise I have no clue what you're trying to infer, please be less vauge.
Uh... sure?

Well, I thought it was good, but strike it from your mental list if you'd like. I will admit it wasn't a superior sequel, but it was a good film nonetheless. Besides, you can't duplicate that kind (in 2001: ASO) of filming technique so easily.

--edit--
Well you're right. I did enjoy the film and it was a good movie but it needs not to be on the list.
I shall strike that out digitally (As opposed to mentally :p )

Look what I got myself into now. I didn't quite read your whole post, but here's the main idea: I've never seen a sequel that compared to the original, IN MY OPINION.

Forgive me, for I have sinned.

Well, Smith decided to do without because, well, it sucked. And he won't do it in B&W because A, he didn't want for the sequel to be the SAME, visually and B, it would cost a whole lot of money to have it transfered in B&W. This is the same reason, he wouldn't do a version, like Sin City, where certain aspects of the movie is in color because it was filmed in 36mm and like I said above, would cost way too much for a movie that had a 5 Million dollars budget. Sin City also was done cheaply but it was filmed in DIGITAL making all of the Post-Production tuning and effect way more easier and cheap.

Alright, that's perfectly fine. It was just you were all like "zomg no good sequels EVER. final judgement 4 eternity on this topic!". Then everyone was like
"O RLY?" and you were all "YA RLY" and then they were like "EXAMPLES!"
and you were "DO NOT WANT".

Well I suggest you locate your nearest spiritual leader or diety for that
inquiry.

I thought he did it in B&W because it was cheaper... but I guess not since,

Since apparently it costs MORE to do without color.

No. What I meant to say with the 'WITHOUT' was about the previous title, Passion of the Clerks.

I know shooting in Black and White is cheaper, but I thought the previous member said something about the fact that it'd cool if there would be a version of the movie where it'd be in B&W and then some objects or parts of the Backgrounds would be in color. THAT would cost a bit more.

Oohh... ok that would make more since since I initally thought that... Yeah I think I said that (Maybe someone else did too). From what I understand for Sin City's production was that hey filmed it in color, made it digitally B&W (Where some enviroments are just B&W naturally and others have a distinct 'pure' black overlay)and then RE-Colored parts deemed uh... needing color.

I was just saying that it would be a nice effect to have the movie use certain objects or even people in color since he will (?) be shooting Clerks 2 in B&W. If cost is an big issue then I guess not huh? :laugh:

Well, based on the Theatrical Trailer, it seems the beginning of the movie will be in B&W and the fire that's burning in the QUICK STOP will be in color and then it'll cut to Color.

Oooh, nice approach. I wanna see it more now, even just for that part :p

Kevin will be appearing at Criminal Records this Thursday. I'm definitely going to see him and I'll post pictures when I get back.

Hmm. Okay. If that's what you read, that's cool. :1zhelp:

Much like Terminator 3 - do we really need this movie, especially so late in the game? For a director so many people think is witty and intelligent, a sequel to a long-ago movie shows a lack of steam on his part.

Do we need it? No, not at all.

Smith has been toying with the idea of a Clerks sequel for quite some time (he said it would be his next film after Dogma [1999], so at bare minimum 7 years). After Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, he said he was done with the Jersey movies. That was it.

Since then he made a promise to Jason Mewes that if he got, and kept, himself clean he could play Jay one more time. He also remembered why he loved the characters so much when he was working on the Clerks 10th Anniversay disc.

He doesn't have to make this movie at all. It'll be a moderate success, probably make back it's costs but not a whole lot more. It's hardly going to be the box office smash of the summer.

I disagree. The internet has bolstered what was a rather mildly entertaining movie into some fucking monolith of our generation because it's full of goddamned pop culture references.

Look at the worthless morons who like Boondock Saints? These two movies are equally painful - yet people on the internet love them and support them enough to give them repeat DVD business.

I fear that you are wrong in the worst way possible.

Clerks wasn't my favorite movie from Kevin Smith, but I liked it well enough. I heard about this a few months back and I'm looking forward to this. I'll go see it during the week though to avoid all those annoying teenagers.

Yeah, this one will probably make some considerable dollars. I got dragged to Scary Movie 4 opening night (rather than go hang out at my friends house, we decided to go see a late showing of scary movie 4 on a Friday night), and they played the trailer for Clerks 2 -- you'd have thought everyone in the theater had one collective orgasm with all the "yes" and "woo" comments all at once. Since Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, it looks like everyone decided Kevin Smith is awesome (at least from what I've seen). I agree with LeHah here, this money is going to make some significant money.

Be fair, the dumbfucks who like the Boondock Saints have no taste in film. I haven't met anyone around here who likes both of those flicks, and usually the ones who like Clerks are the more intelligent ones. Boondock Saints is what I like to call "the stupid person's Pulp Fiction" since it is a blatent cash-in on Pulp's success, and is easy to follow if you're one of those people who "don't get" Pulp Fiction.

I think Clerks is a good movie because I think it's bloody hilarious and I can connect with it because I've been working at a supermarket for 6 years. Plus, the success story behind it is pretty awesome. Guy risks it all on a gamble like Clerks and comes out successful as fuck? That's uplifting for an aspiring filmmaker like myself. Better than fuckholes like Michael Bay who probably got their start by simply knowing the right people.

I have to agree that the hype it gets from the countless IMDBlowhards is pretty overwhelming and has severely inflated Smith's ego... But eh, if anyone deserves it, it's him.

I'm looking forward to this film regardless of the facts: it is no longer in black 'n white (ridding itself of its avant garde status), Smith over-milking the Clerks franchise, Rosario Dawson sticking out like a sore thumb.

I don't think you have any understanding of what "avant garde" means

Honestly, I don't. I had a rule of thumb that whatever film was purposely done in black and white and had no fixed intentions was avant garde. It worked for 'Pi' anyhow.

I just stumbled upon this brand-new RED BAND trailer for Clerks 2!

RED BAND means that it's rated NC-17 for 'bad words' that could corrode your soul!

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2687411?htv=12

Enjoy!

Actually, red band just means that the trailer can only be shown with R rated movies, but I assume you just said that stuff as a joke. I mean, it even says at the beginning that the movie is rated R.

Anyway, this movie looks hilarious. This may be one of the few movies I go to see at the movies this year. Whether I see it at the movies or wait for the DVD though, I'm seeing this movie!

Yeah, that was the 'intelligent' version. I was rooting for the 'dummy' version. :)

So has anyone went to go see this movie yet? I went to go see it earlier today, and I can confirm that it is awesome!

So is it better than the first one? It's really hard to tell (for me, anyway), because while it manages to retain a lot of the same things that made the first movie great, it also does a lot of things differently enough to make you know that this is a different type of movie. I think the fact that this movie had a little more of an actual plot (leading up to an excellent climax and ending) made me like it a little more, though.

But for the pure laugh factor, I would say that they are about equal. I definitely give up to Randall, who was once again my favorite character in the movie, as I found him to be the funniest. It seems like no matter who he was talking to, he managed to have a different type of relationship with that character than he had with all the other characters in the film, which led to some really funny stuff (especially with Elias).

Overall though, all the characters and dialogue were great, and the movie as a whole was great as well. If you liked the first one, you'll definitely like this one as well, though how much so compared to the first one will all be your own personal preference.

I saw it tonight as well I can also confirm that it was hilarious. Not as good as the first but man it's damn close. Easily my second favorite Kevin Smith Film.

Stolen from my very own journal -

Wow, this film blew me away. I wasn't expecting it to be as funny as it was, and it delivered that in spades. I wasn't expecting it to be touching either, and it delivered that even more. I almost cried it was so good.

I don't have the energy to write an in-depth review, so I'll just give a handy bulleted list of what worked in the film.

- Funny as SHIT.
- Felt just like the original did. Didn't feel like a glossed over Hollywood movie.
- Felt like a logical continuation of the story of Dante and Randal.
- Great characters
- Very emotional story overall.
- Amazing conclusion.
- Jay and Silent Bob were great as usual.

I was really blown away by the ending of the film. Like Clerks before it, Clerks II is a film that I really connected with on many levels. The ending...




That would be my only complaint. Other than that, this film is fucking perfect. I was very impressed by it. Go see it NOW!

9/10

Yeah, this movie was great.

Definately on par with the first film, but I still have to give the animated series the nod as being the funniest (plus it cuts out all the "gross-for-gross sake" elements).

The segues back and forth between "comedy scene" and "romantic drama" were a bit clunky. Everytime we went back to Dante and Rosario Dawson, I thought to myself, "Booooooring." I mean, sure it paid off at the end to have that plot & character build-up, but it could have been blended together with the fart and dick jokes better instead of feeling like another film entirely.



While I feel that it wasn't as funny or cool (as in "underground cult film") as Clerks 1, it definately tied up the story and fleshed out the characters. Plus, Elias was absolutely hilarious. I was hoping for more lines from him.

And I also wanted to ask, did anyone here about this situation with Joel Siegel? Man, this was totally stupid, and I completely agree with everything Kevin says about it. I can't believe this guy would be such an asshole about the situation.

Also make sure to listen to the mp3 at the end of the entry, as it's pretty fucking hilarious.

Jeff Anderson heard about this, and said he'd love to put something like "'This is the first movie I've walked out of in thirty years!' - Joel Siegel" on the movie poster. :)

Also, I was surprised to find a couple with a kid about 5 or 6 years old in the theater when I walked in. Needless to say, they left before the ending. Still, even though I felt it relied on gross-out antics a bit much, the sappy romance parts felt forced, and there wasn't enough Dante and Randal banter, I still absolutely loved this movie. Second only to the original Clerks in my list of Kevin Smith films. Thank god he came back with this after Jersey Girl.

I caught a showing of this one on Sunday. Though the movie tried to be more dramatic and story-driven at times, it kept its pace well comedy-wise.



All in all, I thought it was well worth the price of admission, and I'd like to see it again sometime before it leaves theatres.

It's been done. When Siskel and Ebert gave Lost Highway two thumbs down, David Lynch put out a poster with their reviews with a big, yellow headline TWO MORE REASONS TO SEE LOST HIGHWAY.

OMFG, this movie was the funniest movie I've seen in SO DAMN long go see it now.