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SketchTheArtist May 26, 2006 10:23 PM

BLADE RUNNER gets a new cut, re-release in theatres and more!
 
HO. LY. SHIT. :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

FROM JoBlo's Arrow in the Head:

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One of the most notable studio vs. director battles in film history took place over Sci-Fi classic BLADE RUNNER. Helmed by Ridley Scott, the original release got gangbanged when the completion bond guarantors wrested control from Scott because of budget issues. Most famously they added substantial voiceovers (Harrison Ford reportedly did them poorly on purpose hoping that would prevent their inclusion), and a happy ending.

Fast forward to 1992 and Scott was given the chance to release a director's cut, but he also claims he was rushed and was never particularly happy with it. This despite a far better response than the original received.

Now a myriad of rights issues have been sorted out and Warner home video is set to let us all finally see Scott's original vision:

The restored "Director's Cut" will debut on homevid in September, and remain on sale for four months only, after which time it will be placed on moratorium. "Blade Runner: Final Cut" will arrive in 2007 for a limited 25th anniversary theatrical run, followed by a special edition DVD with the three previous versions offered as alternate viewing: Besides the original theatrical version and director's cut, the expanded international theatrical cut will be included. The set will also contain additional bonus materials.

Granted 25 years is a long time to wait for a project to finally get its just due, but better late than never. Thank goodness Warner is doing right by the project, rather than just remaking the damn thing!

Ramenbetsu May 26, 2006 11:34 PM

Awesome Awesome news. Can someone clarify though, the 3 disc set that comes out 2007, that DOES NOT include the "Final Cut" version thats gonna be out for 4 months only right?

No. Hard Pass. May 26, 2006 11:42 PM

That's fucking awesome, that is. Just fantastic.

SketchTheArtist May 26, 2006 11:46 PM

Finally! People are excited about this news! O_o

Yeah, I'm thinking that it means that the current DVD will be discontinued shortly before the theatrical rerun.

Boy oh boy seeing it on the big screen is gonna be something!

No. Hard Pass. May 26, 2006 11:52 PM

I'm going to pick up the newest edition and the tri-box set. I mean, really... how could you not?

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 12:00 AM

Don't know who wouldn't.

I don't really know what the new 'Final Cut' will add though, Scott clearly explained in the 'Director's Cut' that Deckard was a Replicant.

GhostX9 May 27, 2006 12:22 AM

This is fantastic news, indeed.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 12:40 AM

It's not the workprint, so I can't get excited. The only movie that has more lost footage that Blade Runner, is The Magnificent Ambersons.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
It's not the workprint, so I can't get excited. The only movie that has more lost footage that Blade Runner, is The Magnificent Ambersons.

Don't know how much was cut in that one but more than 35 minutes was cut from JOHNNY MNEMONIC. Sadly, since the 'butchered' version sucks, no one wants to see the real version.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Don't know how much was cut in that one

The workprint contained a ton of sequences that never saw the light of day. In fact, some of them - like Deckard going to visit Holden in the hospital - are only known because of a photograph or two.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 10:29 AM

Really? That'd be nice.

Also, I'm still baffled at how good-looking this movie looks, even by today's standards. It's easy to forget that it was made in 1982.

Jay May 27, 2006 10:41 AM

I'm am so gonna buy this! It's still one of the best Sci-Fi films ever! :D

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Also, I'm still baffled at how good-looking this movie looks, even by today's standards. It's easy to forget that it was made in 1982.

I think it best to wait to see what Scott does with the film. The original cut has its strengths, just like the director's cut which is certainly superior. To do this again seems incredibly redundant and really cheap - think X-Men 1.5.

Though I do love the movie, I'm tired of seeing it get whored out. I liked this movie before the bandwagon rolled through and to see Scott whip his dick out to make yet another director's cut really doesn't do anything to make me like him. I'd expect more from him than a George Lucas manuever. Then again, he hasn't made a good movie in probably 20 years.

Will I buy it? Probably - so I shouldn't bitch. But I want to see where this goes first.

Simo May 27, 2006 11:23 AM

I'm just happy that'll it be a new transfer compared to the original 1997 DVD release. I'd gather that "home video" will also include a HD-DVD/Blu Ray release too?

I wonder if Scott is going to go with the originally planned Drew Struzan art for the DVD's cover packaging...
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/451...39069467ul.jpg

....or possibly John Alvin's revised poster of the original one-sheet he did:
http://media.bladezone.com/contents/...in/BR-2000.jpg

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 11:26 AM

I don't really see how it's 'redundant and cheap'. Only ONE version of the DVD got out. And that was in 1997 when the first DVDs hit the market, so I don't think we got too much of it.

We would've gotten a new DVD and a new cut sooner but because of the years of legal troubles with the rights of the movie, it prevented it.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
I don't really see how it's 'redundant and cheap'. Only ONE version of the DVD got out. And that was in 1997 when the first DVDs hit the market, so I don't think we got too much of it.

But then theres the theatrical DVD, the director's cut VHS, the director's cut DVD (which you just mentioned), the American LD, the Japanese LD, the extended european cut, the rumored early edit that was shown at a convention...

Its that this movie has been hacked up more than a Jason Voorhees victim is all. I'd've hoped that Scott would've put more time and effort into making the long-stalled sequel than just rehashing old glories. He's like a 45 year old man who's obsessed with his days playing high school football.

Gechmir May 27, 2006 12:17 PM

Could I possibly get a link to the full article? =d

Simo May 27, 2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gechmir
Could I possibly get a link to the full article? =d

Here's a link to ComingSoon.net's article which is pretty much the same thing:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14724

The original story originated from Variety but you need to subscribe to the site to view the full story.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
But then theres the theatrical DVD, the director's cut VHS, the director's cut DVD (which you just mentioned), the American LD, the Japanese LD, the extended european cut, the rumored early edit that was shown at a convention...

Yeah but VHS and LaserDiscs aren't really the 'thing'. :edgartpg:

There's a DVD of the Theatrical version?! A sequel was planned?! My dick's on fire?!

Mucknuggle May 27, 2006 01:06 PM

I've never seen the film and I was about to go buy it. Now I'm going to wait for the Final Cut release. Is there a more precise release date than 2007?

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
There's a DVD of the Theatrical version?!

I believe it was Region 3 only.

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
A sequel was planned?!

Been rumored on and off for years, just like Scott returning to the Alien franchise. Ford has stated that he's only as interested as someone can be without reading a script. It should be noted that Ford hated his working experience on Blade Runner, the crew hated Scott, Sean Young hated Harrison Ford for slapping her around too hard in the bedroom scene, Ford hated Young for being a snob and there was also the "Blade Runner Curse".

I sincerely doubt that anyone previously involved would want to make a sequel, especially if its based after the INCREDIBLY TERRIBLE K.W. Jeter books.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 01:21 PM

We should get a 'Heart of Darkness'-type of Documentary for the new DVD. We don't have enough of those. Only Terry Gilliam has the balls to do it nowadays.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
We should get a 'Heart of Darkness'-type of Documentary for the new DVD.

Theres a book out about the production of Blade Runner. Its pretty tabloid stuff but the facts in it are right. Its worth taking a glance through if you're really interested.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...glance&s=books

niki May 27, 2006 01:45 PM

I dunno ... I know it sounds legitimate to many, but I tend to think that once something is released, you may as well keep it at that.

At least the original version already have it's DVD, as opposed to Apocalypse Now that we are condemned to see in it's crappy Redux version till the ends of times or the old Star Wars movies ... <_<

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 01:46 PM

Thanks man! I'll order it right away!

Jonathan Ingram May 27, 2006 01:59 PM

It took them long enough to do this. Scott's actually been wanting to do this for at least three years. Unfortunately, Jerry Perenchio (co-executive producer and owner of the rights to the Theatrical Cut) refused to give permission for the Theatrical Cut to be re-released, due to some grudge with Scott.
I don't know how they managed to convince Perenchio to finally give the go-ahead, but finally I can quit waiting for the DVD-set. And I get to see the new cut in theaters (too young to have seen either of the others). Hell yeah!

RABicle May 27, 2006 02:04 PM

Maybe in the final cut Deckard can be Mercer. Like the book.

Jonathan Ingram May 27, 2006 02:08 PM

That's impossible, as incorporating Mercerism into this movie would require nothing short of a remake.

EDIT: And based on the difficulty most seem to be having adapting Phillip K. Dick material properly, that's the last thing you want.

guyinrubbersuit May 27, 2006 07:37 PM

I'd certainly love to see this in theaters. Kind of like when I saw Alien re-released in theaters a few years ago. Fantastic stuff.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by niki
At least the original version already have it's DVD, as opposed to Apocalypse Now that we are condemned to see in it's crappy Redux version till the ends of times or the old Star Wars movies ... <_<

I think that the Apocalypse Now Redux is an exception. I perfer the original edit, but the new one does add things that are interesting and remains unforced given the rest of the plot.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I think that the Apocalypse Now Redux is an exception. I perfer the original edit, but the new one does add things that are interesting and remains unforced given the rest of the plot.

We'll get the four versions of Runner on DVD, so everyone is safe.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
We'll get the four versions of Runner on DVD, so everyone is safe.

I wish that they'd put all four in a set instead of three in a set, forcing you to buy this 2007 edit seperately.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I wish that they'd put all four in a set instead of three in a set, forcing you to buy this 2007 edit seperately.

...followed by a special edition DVD with the three previous versions offered as alternate viewing: Besides the original theatrical version and director's cut, the expanded international theatrical cut will be included. The set will also contain additional bonus materials.

Seems to me like they're putting all four version in ONE Disc Set.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
...followed by a special edition DVD with the three previous versions offered as alternate viewing: Besides the original theatrical version and director's cut, the expanded international theatrical cut will be included. The set will also contain additional bonus materials.

Seems to me like they're putting all four version in ONE Disc Set.

They only list three (original, DC and International edits) in that list. They don't implicetly state the addition of the 2007 cut.

SketchTheArtist May 27, 2006 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
They only list three (original, DC and International edits) in that list. They don't implicetly state the addition of the 2007 cut.

Yeah, because they don't mention the FINAL CUT being released on DVD, that means that those three versions will be packaged with the Final Cut.

Anyhoo, the way they explain it makes it seem so. We'll just have to await further news.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 27, 2006 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Yeah, because they don't mention the FINAL CUT being released on DVD, that means that those three versions will be packaged with the Final Cut.

Or that their terminology is completely wrong. They mention a four month sale span for the 2007 and then say "followed by a..."?

PUG1911 May 28, 2006 01:30 AM

So just wait until solid details emerge on the box set.

Redux may not be as good as the original cut, but some of the scenes like the dinner one I very much enjoyed. The real tragedy is that there is no director's commentary on either version...

niki May 28, 2006 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I think that the Apocalypse Now Redux is an exception. I perfer the original edit, but the new one does add things that are interesting and remains unforced given the rest of the plot.

I partially agree, as some scenes add a certain depht indeed. It still looks like a strange patchwork to anyone that has seen the original cut many times and loved it. The original atmosphere and rhythm is broken.

So yeah, I only wish we could get the original cut on DVD. =(

Yuna May 28, 2006 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
Boy oh boy seeing it on the big screen is gonna be something!

That's the first thing I thought when reading this news. This is my favorite Sci-Fi movie together with Matrix, this surely will be great, not to mention a lot of new scenes.
I just wish we could se it this year and not wait until 2007, but anyway, just the news it's coming is already good enough.

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 28, 2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by niki
So yeah, I only wish we could get the original cut on DVD.

I see the original version all the time at Circuit City. They had it on sale for $12 last month.

SketchTheArtist May 28, 2006 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yuna
That's the first thing I thought when reading this news. This is my favorite Sci-Fi movie together with Matrix, this surely will be great, not to mention a lot of new scenes.
I just wish we could se it this year and not wait until 2007, but anyway, just the news it's coming is already good enough.

It'll probably be released in theatres in the first Quarter of 2007 just before the big Blockbusters, just to bring as much cash as possible.

niki May 29, 2006 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I see the original version all the time at Circuit City. They had it on sale for $12 last month.

Really?! Well shit, I swear they never released it here. Just assumed it was the same oversea...

speculative May 29, 2006 06:47 PM

Studio: Let's fight.
Director: Why?
Studio: Well, we want to make your movie look very cool in posters and previews, but then make it suck once it comes out.
Director: Why do that?
Studio: Well, we'll film like 120 extra minutes of footage, and then release 12 different versions of the movie over the next 134 years to milk this sucka for all it's worth We need you to fight with us so we look like the bad guy and you can sweep in like the good guy and announce that you're finally getting the version you want with the 7th release.
Director: Does this mean more money for me?
Stuio: Yes.
Director: I'm in.

If I can trade in my previous version to get the "real" version for free then I'm in, otherwise: meh.

Wall Feces Dec 28, 2007 12:30 AM

Like Rick Deckard, I'm bringing this thread out of retirement.

I just watched The Final Cut, and it's every bit as brilliant as the Director's Cut, if not more so thanks to the stunning new transfer. I got the giant briefcase set for Christmas, and I haven't even begun to scratch the surface yet.

It's a remarkable set. Anybody else pick it up?

No. Hard Pass. Dec 28, 2007 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sprouticus (Post 558540)
Like Rick Deckard, I'm bringing this thread out of retirement.

I just watched The Final Cut, and it's every bit as brilliant as the Director's Cut, if not more so thanks to the stunning new transfer. I got the giant briefcase set for Christmas, and I haven't even begun to scratch the surface yet.

It's a remarkable set. Anybody else pick it up?

Yeah, I have it in Blu Ray. It's about the sexiest thing ever.

FatsDomino Dec 28, 2007 12:50 AM

So was this final cut actually in theatres?

Wall Feces Dec 28, 2007 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 558551)
So was this final cut actually in theatres?

Yes, very limited. I tried to see it when I was in New York, but didn't make it to the theater in time :( Then it started playing in Boston but show times would conflict with my work schedule. So I had to endure the slight wait for DVD. It was worth it.

Elmoogle Dec 28, 2007 02:56 AM

Bought the Final Cut on HD DVD a week or so before Christmas with awesome Granny money. I'd previously only seen it on VHS and the odd airing of the theatrical cut on SciFi. I pretty much cried the first thirty minutes because it was so beautiful.

guyinrubbersuit Dec 29, 2007 10:02 PM

I saw the Final Cut in theaters and my brother got me the briefcase set for Christmas. So fucking awesome. Man that set is incredible. I'll probably bring in some of those extras to work for display purposes.

Manny Biggz Jan 5, 2008 01:15 AM

I got the briefcase DVD set off of Amazon. It's actually my first time watching the movie. It was so good, I sat through 3 different versions of it in one night (The final cut being my favorite). Great purchase!

EDIT: What's everyones opinion on the whole voice over situation?

JasonTerminator Jan 5, 2008 02:41 AM

Not much of an opinion really. The voice over was only added to sate corporate executives who thought people were too stupid to understand the movie without it.

It's a far better movie without them, although it's nice to have the original versions for archival purposes if anything else.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jan 5, 2008 09:37 AM

I was not impressed with the final cut largely because the audio track is now really, really "wet". All they did was amp up all the background noise and music to the same level as the dialouge so it sounds like an ugly fucking mess.

The physical additions to the movie aren't bad, especially the correction of the dove flying away, but the sound completely ruins this version.

Wall Feces Jan 5, 2008 10:10 AM

I wouldn't say it COMPLETELY ruins it... I noticed what you're talking about, but it didn't take me out of the film too much.


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