Fate/Stay Night - TV Series
 

This series made up for the huge disappointment that I found Lunar Legend Tsukihime to be. The anime translation of that series lacked much of what I found so appealing about the game's plot and characters (in addition to cool fight scenes). Maybe I was spoiled by Melty Blood. The animation wasn't very impressive either. Fortunately, Fate/Stay Night is a bit more faithful. While certain aspects of the storyline weren't followed (there were three branching "arcs" that you could follow in the game), the anime is still enjoyable.

Shirou, the main character, starts off as a pretty annoying and average joe. Fortunately this doesn’t last, although I’ve wanted to punch him in the face a few times just for screaming “SEEIBAAH.” The characters are likeable and cool for the most part. TYPE-MOON and the writers, due to the fact that this IS aimed at an audience under 18, alluded to a few of the darker and ecchi tones of the original h-game. If you’re already watching the series and have some knowledge of the game, then you know how much a bastard



really is. It was the first in a while that I was glad they killed a character off, as this asshole really deserved it.

While the writing’s not excellent, the feel and overall story of the original work is translated to television alright. As I said, certain elements are missing and I feel that had they been included, certain subplots would have been much, much better. In fact, there’s so much subplot and background in the original game that most of it didn’t make the cut. Past relationships, characters, and plot twists are somewhat muddled together and barely mentioned or hinted at. If you only have minimal knowledge of the game, then you’ll probably be left wondering how so-and-so are blahblahblah and why Joe is such a pessimist.

Despite it’s flaws, Fate/Stay Night is one of the better shows of the season.

Number of Episodes
- 24

Sub Groups
- Eclipse (I suck and couldn't find their homepage, so use Tokyotosho.com for a search)

Licensing Status
- Licensed (Geneon Entertainment)

I already went and spoiled all the game scenarios for myself a few days ago. I wish the anime did the UBW scenario instead, it would of been just too awesome. Fate's been pretty good though, Gil is badass.

ps obligatory (kinda NSFW):

Best doujinshi ever made. I wish they adapted this into the anime in some impossible way or other.

Also might want to warn people that it's not exactly work-safe.

I've got up to episode 16 with this from Eclipse, and hope they continue despite the license. It's getting pretty interesting with Saber losing some strength.

HEY KURADO/MS-07
AMIRITE! :tpg: Indeed, best doujin EVER.

I was really drawn to Fate/Stay Night by the artwork, and I can't wait to see the English adaptation that Geneon will heopfully do, since they DID license it and all. I was bugging Styphon for info on it in the General Questions thread.

I thought I posted here already? Maybe pre-crash.

Ya, Fate Stay Night is awesome. I was really surprised at how well executed the whole thing was pulled off. Although two scenes stick in my mind clearly as tributes to it's original h-game roots:

I made a thread pre-crash (which had a bunch of pics from the Curtain Raiser teaser trailer), but you know, shit dies in crashes.

Game References

I think I'm on episode 5 but stopped watching it. The fighting game "Fatal fake" is what got me interested. I should give it another chance whenever i have time. It is the summer (for me ^^; ). The music is definately great since its by Kenji Kawai himself. He never fails.

Since Eclipse's entire reason for being appears to be subbing series that Geneon has prelicensed (see also: Shakugan no Shana), that probably isn't something you need to worry about.

Anyway, Fate is one of my favorite series airing right now. It also underscores just what Tsukihime could have been, as Kurado alludes to.

Type Moon really left Tsukihime inconclusive... 12 episodes was not enough to fit everything in.

As for Fate/Stay Night, hardcore fans are somewhat disappointed by the Anime because of its lack of depth compared to the games.

However as a general anime, I would say its doing extremely well (aside a few episodes which I found done somewhat poorly and could've been better eg. Rider's death episode).

A side note: I was surprised no one mentioned FSN here until now at episode 20 lol.

I wasn't all that disappointed with Tsukihime . Maybe a little cause they lacked too much fighting. Its not like i was going to expect something with combos like in Melty Blood but something almost like s.CRY.ed.

Also, people are just disappointed because its not like the fighting games. So they don't count.

You know, there are people who were disappointed with the Tsukihime anime because there was a lot of story material from the game (and I don't mean the fighting games) that was left out of the anime. The "Far Side of the Moon" story arcs, and all the plot information that came from them, are almost completely left out, for instance.

Shingetsutan Tsukihime wasn't a bad series in the least, but it wasn't nearly what it could have been, and Fate/Stay Night illustrates this.

I heard Melty Blood was a direct sequel to Shingetsu-Hime, I wouldn't know anything about it since I can't read japanese for shit. We can't really say its been left out all the way, Not unless they make an anime out of MB to make up for a few mistakes.

For Fate, they have all kinds of stories including h-games that even has a plot (or so i heard from other hardcore fans).

ehh...My point is that maybe Type-Moon didn't have much interest in the Tsukihime story anymore. Since Fate/Stay Night was a big hit back then, i assume they'll just rely on that for now. They already did make a sequel Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. I wont be surprised if they make episodes out of it. Avenger is pretty cool.

BTW,there's a translation group working on a english version of MB:reACT/Cadenza. For those who are interested..

http://mirrormoon.org/

I'll be watching episode 6 to see what's going on. Been too busy with work and all that bs.

That's good to hear. Also I do have Shakugan no Shana but haven't gotten around to watching it. There's just well a limited amount of free time in my day and still quite a number of series I need to catch up on, and I'm glad my watching FSN won't be for vain.

Also, do you have to be so mean to me with my name? I'm not that bad a member now am I? :(

There are people who have played the game (Tsukihime, not Melty Blood, so don't bother bringing it in) who can attest to major differences between the Tsukihime game and the Tsukihime anime. The far side story arcs, for instance, are in the game and deal with the Tohno family's history, but are almost ignored in the anime. This has various effects on the anime, like leaving plenty of thing unexplained (or just poorly explained) at the end, and reducing Kohaku's character to insignificance. Ciel doesn't touch curry in the anime, but that's not really important.

I know. Tsukihime was the same way. It had two plotline groupings: the "near side of the moon" (Arcueid and Ciel) and the "far side of the moon" (Akiha, Kohaku and Hisui).

The point here is that the Fate anime has, by and large, used those storylines effectively, while the Tsukihime anime didn't. This is what is meant when it is said that Tsukihime isn't what it could have been, and Fate illustrates that fact by showing what is twas possible for Tsukihime to have been if done the same way.

If Type-Moon keeps refining Melty Blood, it would suggest that they do still have interest in Tsukihime, even if Fate/Stay Night has replaced it at their big moneymaker.

Their interest or lack of it isn't exactly relavent to the anime, though; they weren't the one's producing the anime. There's also the fact that when the Tsukihime anime aired, Fate/Stay Night hadn't been released yet.

I like how most of what I'm talking about in this Fate thread is Tsukihime.

Well, I guess you are right about all that. So the anime was pretty much crammed up into the whole tv series without explaining a few characters' background. Like Yumizuka Satsuki for example.She's more different in the storyline of MB and in the anime, she's just there as a normal hs girl worrying about Tohno Shiki. I stand corrected.

um..guess I'll stop lol. Just needed to know a few things that are type-moon related. Sorry.

Regarding the game, I've not really seen much of what this "Japanese visual novel" game from TYPE-MOON looks like nor what its interface is like. Is this like a 2d fighter game (which I can see) or as some people mentioned an H type game with a "clicky adventure" interface.

For those of you who have played, what sources did you get the game from, and how easy is it to nagivate or play the game, assuming it's entirely in Japanese. I myself have played very few PC games in Japanese to keep my interest up, since much of how I progress is through guessing and testing.

I did encounter a game that is Fate/Stay Night related called Fatal Fake. I dont think there was much story but only a cell shaded 3-d fighter.

As for MB, its not hentai . just a fighting game. Although, i didn't really play through the storyline in Final TUNED mode.

From what I've seen, Tsukihime and Fate/Stay (and it's 'sequel' Ataraxia) play sort of like the dating sims. There are branching paths you can take which ultimately determine the outcome of the story (and in some cases, which girl you end up with).

Like chato said, the Melty Blood fighting game series plays like slightly toned down Guilty Gear.

I've played a few of the dating sims but found most of them pretty generic with predictable stories. But for Fate/Stay, I might actually bother to care for the characters. So I take it that the possible "dates" are: Tohsaka, Saber, and Sakura. But the game I'm guessing would be more focussed on building up your servant stats and such and duking it out.

Well, you can basically sex up just about every girl except Caster and Illya, I believe. Saber and Rin get it more, of course. :tpg:

MB is a sequal to Tsukihime.

Shingetsutan Tsukihime wasn't bad... I liked it but it is possible that from a fan's perspective who has played the games might've found it lacking.

Like Styphon said, Fate/Stay Night is doing what Shingetsutan Tsukihime should've done.

And Sir VG's reaction? Ah damn!

Most interesting. I should start hunting for this game. Request thread here I come!

What's wrong with Caster? Caster looks awesome (without the turban like hood).

spatula, you're looking for the game? I have the sendspace links... I will post here again later. Hopefully it's not dead yet. You could also got the doujinshi at my blog (look at my sig)

Premium Artbook (168mb)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/jjhip0

Other Side Material 2
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cqw639

any news about the latest ep - 22?

Ep 22 was pretty good, with lancer back and all... except

The episode 24 already released. The ending is just so...

Are the torrents by Eclipse and Mahou the same? Or is each group doing different series of Fate Stay?

Edit: I got around to downloading Ep1 of the Eclipse and Mahou versions, they're the same in content. But I personally think Mahou's translation/interpretation is better. It's much better to get along with than how Eclipse did the subbing. Perhaps Eclipse's way is more "proper" and maybe even more accurate, but the style of speech turned into English doesn't make complete sense sometimes.

what can I said I really enjoy watching this serie, about the sub I prefect Mahou over Eclipse, also thank eriol for those artbook.

The finale was very quaint, I think:

you're welcome. btw may I request some files from the artbook? my archive is corrupted and it's quite painful to download the entire book again (dial up user). =/

I thought the ending kinda sucked too:

I taught the ending was quite sad. I was hoping for something nicer, after all the time they had spent with one another..

You know I also thought the ending was a little sad, I was not going to post it however because at first everyone was raving about the ending and how it wasn't your normal lovey dovey ending.

But since some other people didn't like the ending as well I feel that yes, the ending was sad. To be totally honest I watched this series with great anticipation, and overall i dunno if I even want to back it up on a DVD-R.

hey guys, talking about the fate stay night... would you add some comment for the album OST here? the music is done by Kenji Kawai and I really enjoy the entire album, I really hope people and the watcher wouldnt mind to give some words about the OST =/

I think the OST is "Average-ly" okay. It's not that great. Especially the first opening theme, that gets on my nerves after a while. The second opening them is okay, but I wouldn't recommend any of the tracks from this OST, to anyone.

So, because the ending was 'sad' the series left a sour, almost 'ruined' taste in your mouths?

Go back to Digimon.

This whole anime tasted a little like chrno crusade.

I don't even understand why others are saying the ending was even 'sad'. It sucked. Horribly. The rest of this anime is excellent, primarily the fight scenes, but for an anime that lacks giant mecha and planetary defense systems as well as a potent amount of magic firepower, it was okay in that aspect.

I just wish they did more

I personally felt that the series sucked in general save for the battles, background music, (which did not sound as awesome when just listening to it instead of hearing it whilst watching the show) and the opening themes (I hated the ending theme). I really should've dropped the series earlier instead of following it to the end. I agree with Hopeless that more of "that" would've been nice, and it seemed to me like they were just trying to mush everything together.


Maybe all my hatred for the series really just stems from Emiya Shirou, who is quite possibly the worst protagonist ever with his cocky attitude, I mean, even Kai from BLOOD+ is better, and I don't like Kai.

I don't mean to offend anyone but the series are kind of stupid... I liked the most part and everything, I mean it was even interesting ... but the ending messed up everything...

Might want to cut back on those ellipses before you make me cry-kill.

God, what a show. So far I'm on episode 16 and I'm loving it. In the first episodes it was just okay, but as it gets closer to the end it is getting really good.

I like how unpredictable it is getting

I watched the entire series a while back. It was pretty good and sad. I just don't like the main character, Shirou. There's this whole battle going on and all he can think of is

I hope they will produce a ova off Fate/hollow ataraxia.

I don't think I saw anyone mention this, but for those interested, Fate/stay night the game is being translated by Mirror Moon!!! Although, that probably won't be completed for quite a while?

Ah but the exciting news is, there's a translated working demo out for fate/stay night:
ww.insani.org/fate.html
or
ww.edkeyes.org/choco/

I didn't know anything about Fate/stay until I tried the demo, and of course it did it's job well ... I want more!!!!! ... although the full game isn't translated yet :P argh.
[insani and others translated the demo]

oh and unrelated if you check mirrormoon.org; you'll see *the* Tsukihime game is closing towards public release! Or at least they are in beta, so things are looking good :)

EDIT: Now I need to check the anime~

Sorry to bring this topic up again. I just finished playing the game not long ago so I'd like to have a few words on it.

I watched the anime first without knowing anything about the world of FSN and not having a high expectation for the story. After finished watching episode 24, I was completely hooked and couldn't stop myself from importing both FSN and FHA. Also bought myself a Saber figure. :)

Now that I'm done with the FSN game, I've to say, screw the anime. The anime just can't compare to the game.

First of all, there is much, much, much more to the world of FSN than what the anime has shown. FSN anime is just the story of Saber. The true FSN is much more complicated that that. I'm sure some of you guys have already read about the rest of FSN from other fansites. But getting to know the truth of Archer, Sakura, relationship between the families...etc as the plot unfolds in the game is much more enjoyable than reading a few paragraphs on the internet. Also watching the way Shirou grows into a real man at that end of Heaves Feel is another plus. I'm sure not many people liked Shirou in Fate. But he defintely gives us a much better impression at the end of Heavens Feel.

I must say FSN has one of the best stories I've ever come across. But to truely appreciate the greatness of FSN, one must play all 3 routes in the game in the right order. The anime did a very good job at reproducing the first route (Fate) in the game. The way it mixes a bit of UBW into story at beginning was not bad either. However the Heaves Feel part of the anime was IMO a total failure. The end of Heaves Feel in the game brought tears to my heart. Whereas the anime was an absolute poo.

The English translation for the game will probably take very long since the amount of pages needed to be translated is somewhere around 2 telephone books. But once the translation finishes, I highly recommend playing the game. I'm hoping that no one would think that the anime is what FSN is supposed to be. Even Kinoko has stated that the theme for the anime is "a boy meets a girl". While the truth of FSN is far from that.

Now I can hardly wait for the PS2 version to release. :D

Well, it's finally here. Fate/Stay Night's getting dubbed! Wahoo!

http://www.animenation.com/12871.html

Can't find who the American VAs are though. But if Geneon's doing it, I don't think they'll screw it up.

Fate is a very interesting series, I really hope they create a Fate/Hollow Ataraxia anime. Stay night just ended so sudden and didn't explain anything about many things, for example Archer's past, what his real name is and why he wasn't very happy being summoned...

A Fate/Hollow Ataraxia anime would be kind of boring. I'd rather an OAV based on Heaven's Feel, since that one's pretty action packed and f'd up.