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THE RiPPERS' STASH (Game Rips Directory Ideas)
EDIT: The focus of newer posts in this thread is currently that of cubed's site "THE RiPPER'S STASH". What begins here is discussion I initiated that eventually let to the current state.
Okay, I've been meaning to create this thread for a while, but I'm prone to procrastinate. cubed used to have a nice index of game rips available, but his site is down now. He's in the process of building a new one, but I don't know how long that will take. God knows I take forever to do anything of that size. So what I'm proposing is something to hold us over until then. I want to make a directory of game rips, and I'd like to actually include the "games that need to be ripped" in with this project. I'm talking about an actual website as opposed to a GFF thread, because the list won't do us any good when the boards have crashed. Maybe we'll use a little coding, maybe not. I don't plan to make it nearly as robust as cubed's site was, but I at least want to make the information easily available to people. So help me brainstorm. I have the webspace, all I need is the input. Double Post: I was thinking maybe we can use some pre-made software to take care of this. I think a wiki would be more than needed, so I don't really want to deal with that. If anybody knows of any software that would be perfect for this cause, list it here. |
like a GMR Online but for rips only ?
that would be nice... and easier to code LOL so people can post others' rips. Like Reichu's rip. Cause I never got in touch with her actually... so it could be a good way to list them all. just a thought. |
On the subject of Reichu, I emailed her about two months back and she sent me her gamerip listing. She never replied to my second email though.
But I'm definitely in favor of the Gamerips Directory though I don't know how to help. I could contact a few rippers that aren't registered here (ie Mike, Juno, brainzelda, etc.)... Oh, and here's Reichu's list: /GAMECUBE/ Dairantou Smash Brothers DX (= Super Smash Brothers Melee) /GAMEBOY/ Donkey Kong Kirby's Dream Land Kirby's Dream Land 2 Super Mario Land Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins Wario Land II /GENESIS/ Ecco: Songs of Time Ecco the Dolphin Sonic Spinball /NES/ Kirby's Adventure /N64/ Mario Party Pokemon Snap /PLAYSTATION/ Breath of Fire 3 [Complete] SaGa Frontier (Unreleased Tracks) /SNES/ Bubsy: Claws Encounters of the Furred Kind ClayFighter Earthworm Jim Illusion of Gaia Jurassic Park Jurassic Park 2: The Chaos Continues Kirby Super Star The Lost Vikings Mario is Missing! Mario Paint Mickey's Magical Adventure Mother 2: Giegue Strikes Back! (= EarthBound) TMNT IV: Turtles in Time Yoshi's Cookie Yoshi's Panepon (= Tetris Attack) /DREAMCAST/ Sonic Adventure (Unreleased Tracks) |
I would like to know if people will be more interested in a GMR-like website... I hope we'll get more replies soon... cause I'm willing to make more effort on this one instead. I already have a lot of coding already done anyway.
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A GMR-like website would be fine. However, one problem I have with that site is that it has no auditing, so it's prone to vandalism wiping out data permanently. If we could keep some sort of data history, that would be great.
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A GMR setup but for gamerips? Sure, I'm all for that.
Depending how soon you guys can get the site up I can provide a list of rips in my ftp :). |
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I'd be up for the idea, though I have no idea about the coding.
What format is it in? And...what is GMR? |
GMR would be the abbreviated version of Game Music Revolution. The name belongs to a popular database site that lists a large amount of information on VGM soundtracks (such as tracklistings, artists, etc). With a simple search function, it's one of the most accessible databases around..
Chudah's Corner is similar, if you've ever been there. I'd also be in favor of a GMR style website for gamerips (with the safety precautions that Kaleb mentioned, of course). I wouldn't say that I could help with it though, due to my uncomitted nature. Other ideas seem to escape me at the moment, but I'll post stuff later on if I can think of something. |
@ Supersonic:
www.gmronline.com - The best video game music album database. I'm coding in PHP. Or if anyone else want to try it in asp instead... --- Backup is not a problem. I can make daily backup. OR (again, just a thought) only known rippers would get an account, so only them would be able to edit the database since it's our own work and not from companies, so it's not like if we don't know our own stuffs thus we can trust ourselves and not being worried about any vandalism of any kind. |
Never coded in PHP before...I'll probably need to learn it soon.
GMR has a lot of stuff, I'm impressed. Though, I don't see an alphabetical listing it's probably not needed since there's a lot of stuff. PHP is pretty reliable from what I've seen, so I'd be all for that. |
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or browse by Album Title Catalogue # Release Date Just click "Album Title". Also, cubed, PHP is fine. |
Kaleb, is mysql ok too ? I'm more used with PHP + MySQL.
So you would need to create the database and tell me what are the infos to get connected to it. I can stard to work on it as soon as I get more info about it :) Not having a girlfriend anymore is helping me too. More free time for me. EDIT: well, huh I just realized that I can create the databse myself in php anyway LOL |
cubed, I can set you up with an account on my server and you can run wild.
Server info: Signature VPS (w/ cPanel) from ServInt Code:
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I meant I can create a database on a mysql server with a script in php.
mysql_query("create database db_blabla"); @ Kaleb: I need is an username and password to connect to the mysql server via PHP :) Double Post: is it better to let certain people to have privilege to modify the database or make it simple like GMR ? |
I think "anonymous" contribution would be fine, so long as there is a data history. However, user accounts are good as well.
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I don't really get the point of anonymous updating. When an anonymous person updates a CD at GMR, you can verify that the CD exists, you can look up info on it, buy it, etc.
In a game rips database, anybody can add info to their game rip they just made 5min ago, which in the worst case is untagged mp3s taken from a game's folder. Furthermore, who needs info on a game rip of let's say Superbike 2001 when there's absolutely no place to get it. |
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heh. Action, finally. Cool. =)
Definitely supporting this, as it's pretty obvious we'll never get it on GFF before 2015. Tell me if you need help with anything. Something GMR-like would be fine, I guess, since my experience tells me a Wiki would get messy fast. The majority of people don't know how to deal with anything else than to-fill boxes. Though yeah, the ability to restore data fast would be a must. Now, the big question to me is kinda in the lines of what Teioh said. What do we list on it? It's nice to know a gamerip has been done before, but what use is it if it is'nt accesible anywhere? This is why having it here, coupled to the forums, was nice. But yeah... That is why I'd be all in favor of deciding at the same time on a way of distributing these gamerips by less reducing ways than FTPs, unless we're gonna have someone on a T3 willing to give away his FTP info to the public, leave it on 24/24 and share every gamerips listed on the DB. Emule coupled to the Kadmelia network sounds fine to me. You can have HTML links, and everyone can share their rips from home. I know many people hate Emule for some reason, but heh, I just don't see an alternative... |
Huh. A few thoughts from the new dude:
1. What do you stick on there? Game rip info, who ripped it, the compression used, and whatever other comments are deemed necessary. PROBLEM: There are multiple game rips that have been done for each game, which ones get listed for a given title? SOLUTION: Simps. All or one (or two). Huh? That's right. List all the gamerips submmitted by users with their corresponding information, or pick the best one(s). PROBLEM: How do you pick the best one? 2. So, apart from information on the rip, we need to know how to actually acquire the rips. Right, people will have to volunteer information on where to pick these guys up. I don't think it's right to just up and add someone's ftp info, they'd have to be asked permission or do it themselves. Websites that host music can probably be listed by a third party, although that still would not be the best of actions.PROBLEM: If someone finds/has a rip location, how do they know whether to add it as a mirror location under one of the rips listed already, or as a new rip? SOLUTION: Well, a rip shouldn't be listed in the first place, unless the person doing so has the rip itself AND listed a primary download source. Preferably the person who did the rip itself would do undertake doing so. The person listing it should know what's what, eh wot? Pardon. In any case, what of those random sites with music found, or people with FTPs that are unsure of whether theirs is a copy of one listed or one that's new? I don't know exactly. This can cause a snag. Obviously, the more mirrors listed under any given rip, the better. Best I can think of, is listing the primary download source, and then allowing people to post mirrors and saying they are secondary until verified. ----- Ah, there's more to say, but I'm drifting... later perhaps. Hopefully what I've said makes sense, there are just to many contingencies to sift through. |
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There are two paths to take here, creating the end all, and be all, of game ripping directories OR making it easy to find and download high quality game rips by just listing those.
Seems you are in favor of the first, and that also was the kind I was describing in my prior post (which I'm not necessarily in favor of). Problem is, that direction will be a pain in the butt. There is a far easier way to do all this, but it will be self-serving to the GFF forums. I'll talk about that later. In any case, you are right, there is no reason why rips can't be added if there is no download location. For completion purposes, and all that. Okay, there IS a reason. It makes it far easier for any buffoon to put up rip information and claim they (or another) did it, when in reality they are just looking for easy recognition or just wish to spam. Why? Obviously, with no download source, nobody can verify the rips existence, or it's authenticity. The "Props or Drop" system would be rendered useless as well for these cases, seeing that there is no basis for people to vote on. Other than that, there really is no problem. In the end, it would just be text. Text that people can ignore, if they wish, in favor of rips listed that can be verified. |
I don't think we'll have a problem with people posting fake rips. File availability from the directory site wasn't a requirement at cubed's last site, and yet things were still very organized. Most of the time, people's rips can be found on the various FTPs here at GFF. If someone submits a rip that nobody can find, then obviously it will be removed.
Also, in the case of multiple rips, cubed's site previously just listed all available rips from a game. A rating system may be a welcome addition, however. |
If this website is ONLY available to GFF, then there will be very little chance of there being fake rips or spam. This is simply because your forum account would be linked to the acccount you have on the directory, so, it would be easy to tell who did what.
If the website will be publically accessible AND modifiable, you will eventually get people who want to cause trouble. No question. All it takes is one jerk to mess with things. You just have to be prepared for this eventuality. ----- I remember cubed's site, "CubeWorld" or something, had a "z" in it somewhere. Nice place, but I only recall one rip per title being listed. That was why it was so organized, wasn't it? It was well done, for what it did. However, a directory it was not, more a repository. Now that I see where you are coming from, Kaleb.G, I will focus on a different take concerning this directory idea in my next post. More later. |
Yes, cubed's site was very organized. As far as I remember, it also required registration - and mostly the "renowned" game rippers updated it with their work.
Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see how an anonymous, open database will work out. Unfortunately, there will always be two sorts of game rips: Named/tagged ones which are made up like an album release (and occasionally devided into discs) and music folders taken from a game cd. I'm curious to see a solution for the latter. |
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Personally...I think registration would indeed be a better idea, organization-wise. This was how cubed's site ran last time. The only problem was that it still lacked a lot of rips that were out there. Maybe some sort of hybrid of registered/anonymous would work. Whatever we decide to do, I want to make sure it doesn't turn into a mess. If we have to be a little restrictive to do so, then so be it. Double Post: One thing that could be done is to allow users to sign up and post rips from other people. The thing with cubed's site was that you could only post rips you did yourself. I think this might be a good solution. |
Soooo... what we're doing here is kind of a directory of "I've did it" pages?
Cause yeah, I fail to see the interest of that. Well, except for the ripper's egos, of course. |
I would be glad to join the project as well, as long as the site is there to stay (not disappear this time, with energy having been wasted into it).
For security purposes, maybe it would be wise to only allow selected people to add/edit info. Creating a submission form for non-allowed people, which could get inspected by moderators before being added to the site could also work for safety, though more time consuming. As for the content, I'm open to anything, but keep in mind that if you want to put in all existing rips, it will take almost forever... |
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How do these people submitting rips, which they have not created themselves, know whether it is a new rip, or whether it is one of those already listed? It would be rather annoying to have to download a track from each rip, and compare them with the one being considered for submission to verify this. To make it easier, perhaps when a new rip is submitted, an entire tracklist should be included with the exact formatting used in the rip and an example MP3 tag from the rip should be put up as well. The user adding a new rip can quickly check to see whether the rip they have matches another's tracklist identically (which isn't the best way to verify, mind) and/or whether the sample MP3 tag matches theirs as well. Still, it may annoy some to have to go through each rip and verify this, hopefully a search function can be utilised. |
Unagi, I agree, of course. I don't expect someone to just list the name of a game or anything; we'll want as much information as possible. A tracklist should be a minimum requirement.
Oh, and if I haven't clarified it yet, I have actually set cubed up with server space and he is working on putting together a site to use. I'll make sure these suggestions get run by him as the rules are to be constructed. |
One of the problems I had with cubed's site was that you had to follow a rigid structure. For larger rips or for those times when time was short, I simply didn't want to take the time to fill out every individual entry box. After trying to edit a page at GMR, I see the same setup.
Maybe what I'm saying is that it would be nice to have the ability to just copy and paste a block of text up there, such as from foobar2000's copy function, which will display the titles, lengths, and track numbers or something like that (yes, I realize that'd be just like a Wiki). But I'd be all for a site just like GMR/Cubed's World as well, so long as it stays around. |
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Too bad the GFA development board got wiped. I'd like to swipe some of the ideas they had for the big soundtrack DB. |
Just took a look at it again and I really like how it is turning out.
The layout is very nice and organized. Looking forward to more developments. :D |
First of all, when I created Cubed World, it was only for my rips. Then I realize that some rippers would like to share their own gamerips too so I modified to include others' gamerips. Cause it HAD DIRECT DOWNLOAD (for the ones that think it was only a showoff list). It has details of what you've done like tracklists, composer, description field where you describe what you can't elsewhere (in others fields) etc.
If you want to share your gamerips too, it was your responsibility to ask for an account. Everybody was welcomed. And I was working on a new version of my website, buy taking note of rippers' complaints. Like neothe0ne who was complaining for the standard I created. Standards were made to avoid any mess that it could make. Letting a big text field to give freedom to the submitter... I'm against it. Think of what it'll look like. What I was going to do (then I'd have showed you all what I've done then you'll criticize) is when you submit a new rip, you have 2 options: STANDARD or FREESTYLE STANDARD: - 99 tracks max per disc - each track should not exceed 80 min FREESTYLE: No tracklist limit, no time limit. But in both modes, you have to put every single track individually. just like GMR always worked and still works fine by the way. And I'm totally in for limit access. That's why I asked for it right in the beginning of the development process. Like Rimo said though it makes sense (moderating anonymous submissions). I'm willing to do it. As long as people show me proof of the rip existence, I'm gonna accept it. |
But couldn't you write a code that could convert the text? Say, for every line, it'd be [Disc] / [Track] / [Title] / [Artist] / [Length in mm:ss]. Or just have separate boxes for each disc, and have each line say "[Title] / [Artist] / [Length in mm:ss]" and let the script give each line a tracknumber. The reason why I'd like to see this is because foobar has its useful copy function, and it can be formatted to copy tracklists out in a certain format. If there was, say, a code box where you could just copy this text in a certain format, and let the site format it into tables and stuff for you, it'd save all the contributors a lot of time.
I'm not sure how hard this would be to code, as I have little experience with coding, but I imagine it wouldn't be too hard since lots of programs have such scripts. |
can you give me an concrete example of what is copied from foobar ?
(formatting text is not really hard. in fact, it just requires some thinkings) |
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That is the default copy setting of foobar2000 0.9.1. The format of that is Playlist number. Artist - [Album {CDx} #tracknumber] Title It can be formatted any which way though. Spoiler:
Here it's Discnumber-tracknumber Artist - [Album] Title That's one of the reasons why I want this text parser feature so much, because it's very simple to use and easily customizable to fit any situation. |
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Also, I get a lot of rips uploaded to my FTP from different kinds of people, which nobody might know about (because the ripper doesn't really make it openly available). I could help out with this and make sure that I add new rips that I get to this database! (and if we get more help from other FTP owners with this then this could definitely be a succes). I do have a problem if people add rips which don't have specified tracktitles (or other info) or if someone just did a piss-poor job on a certain kind of rip. (no editing, no loops etc etc). |
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a) not have proper track titles (i.e. just tracknumbers) b) may not loop (because the default storage format is one loop plus a few seconds, and there is a code that tells the game where to loop to. This is no longer a concern for ADX music though, thanks to hcs's in_cube Winamp plugin.) c) is a less-than-ideal line-in recording The thing is, a lot of these kinds of rips are RARE or impossible for anyone else to do, and are often in great demand. For example, DVD_Rick is famous for digitally ripping loads of PS2 games which no one could do or take the time and energy to record and tag. The "problem" is that he doesn't tag them, but leaves them numbered. I say these kinds of rips should be added to such a gamerip index, but under a different "category" or something. |
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(Like I did with my extraction rip of Conker Live & Reloaded) I can understand that some people may find this to be too much of a hassle, but i'm just a perfectionists about these kind of things.;) Quote:
Some people obviously just want the music "no matter what". On the other hand I can remember trying out one of his rips (I believe it was Alias The Game)...and the sound quality was just horrible. If you're ripping then at least make it so that it's listenable. I don't know if it would really matter if those kinds of rips would need to go into a different category. The idea of this site is to see if a rip is available for a certain game. And if you're saying that rips without tracknames and such should be included then it's just of secondary importance. (the person can decide for himself/herself if they're gonna get the rip or not...based on the info given on this site) |
FYI, please post any tracklists in [ spoil ] tags so that it will save space. Thanks. :)
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cubed seems to be busy with other stuff, so his site will have to wait for now. I still want to get this info collected, however. In any case, collected data can be transfered to his site if/when needed.
What do you guys think is the fastest way to collect and display information. As I said in my original post, it doesn't need to be fancy. I'd like to get as much info as I can find for each rip too. This will help with quality control. |
Awesome! I didn't know that they had found a replacement for nsfs! I like the new format much more...
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I don't know anything about coding or databases and I really have no opinion one way or the other about untagged tracks, etc.
BUT, I am looking forward to some type of game rip database, so whatever you guys decide to do, I will submit my rips' info and/or my rips to the site that is to be created. |
Are you wanting a website, a database, or just to list the information? The best way to do that would either be to find the gamerips/soundtracks and see if they're valid, or just have the rippers themselves contact you and post the info to you. If the ripper is not available, then try to find their rips as best you can and see if they're valid. That's only if you want to just list the information. If you're talking about a website or a database, I haven't had enough exp. yet. Ask the real coders who do stuff like php or asp. :D
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I would love to get involved in this affair once its ready. Thankfully my computer should be back in my hands fairly soon. :)
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What SuperSonic said. Really, the fastest way to do it is to contact the rippers and have them send their data to you.
But if we're really looking for all the technical aspects of the rip (such as what platform, the # of tracks the rip has, the total size of the rip, etc.), it's a cross between having rippers send that info as well, or just getting the info ourselves. It wouldn't be too hard, IMO, but seeing as you're doing most of the work here I can offer to help research and get information. |
Right now I would like to know which software or storage method would be best to use, first and foremost.
By the way, thanks for all the input, everyone. :) |
One benefit of making our own scripts to generate metadata about a project (i.e. tracklists) is that it will all be in one consistent format. We won't suffer discrepancies between formats given to us by individual submitters, and need to manually go in and fix them. We can simply ignore any extra metadata and create our own, "KalebGrace Game Rip" format. This *may* require filenames to be semiconsistent between submissions, but scripts could also be made flexible enough to handle variations between naming schemes. Regular expressions are ridiculous like that.
I guess this is a little late to jump in, but I'm up for helping with this site in what way I can. I know PHP/MySQL, and lately have gotten into Ruby on Rails. I support basically any and all ways to support the spread ofand respect for game music, so I'm willing to put in time to the project. Let me know if I can be of service. |
That sounds great, Klondike. I know a custom format is best; I just can't do it all by myself. I think the first order of business would to make a database schema.
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I haven't made any progress here. I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing any more. In order to get a successful collection of rip info, a good amount of effort and planning will need to be put into developing a system for managing this information. With so many other projects I'm working on, I simply do not have the time to initiate the creation of such a system.
Sorry to get anyone's hopes up. However, anyone is free to take up the reigns here. Also, this doesn't mean I can't help out in some way. Nevertheless, I am committed to assist with the GFA project, and being that we plan to have it catalog game rips, it may supercede anything that would come about as the result of this thread. |
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As I said in your Lemmings PSP gamerip request, I'll have more free time, so I'll be able to continue to script for gamerips' stash website.
First I need update: - Anonymous submission allowed ? - Able to register freely ? - Only me or Kaleb can add new users ? - Gamerip submission: how to submit. Freestyle or cubed world old-fashioned way ? Or both ?? |
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For Gamerip submission, I think both is a good idea. You or I could probably create an easy way to switch between them in the database if we think about it. As far as registration goes, I'm not really sure... |
even better if you add the download source of the rip. I meant, we could refer to ftp directories here since they are very useful to keep gamerips. Galbadia Hotel hosts a lot of game rips too, though some are bizarre (like untitled, having no proper credit for the ripper, etc)
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what we would need (for the download section) is dedicated mirrors FTP. Which would only host gamerips (with a separate login if they are currently offering FTP service for their own stuffs).
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I would like a "complete list" of game rippers (whether they are still active or not as a ripper).
Sorry if I'm missing anybody in this list ;_; (just tell me with a shovel) B4-Hunter Blue_Kirby2 Capcom Lord crudelis cubed D-7 Darko Dubble DVDRick godai Grawl Jay Joe Bloggs Joe Wiewel JumboMaverick k3nn3dy Kairyu Kaleb.G Kuttlas Killy Lian_Kazairl majario neothe0ne Parjay Rimo Rockman Rune Walsh Shadowlink56 Shuriken SuperSonic Tappy Top Dollar |
How many rips must they have completed in order to be in this list?
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I'm guessing you'd really only need one to be considered a ripper..
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I'll add a few then:
Equinox K3nn3dy Pyocola Raynor Thalin Unagi |
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Citizen Solo aka Kureisama (where the fuck is he these days...) Juno Mike Reichu starerik |
@Supersonic: k3nn3dy already in the list ;)
@neothe0ne: ..yeah. If there's only ONE ripper that did a certain rip, why not include them as well to avoid multiple request of that rip ? @Blue_Kirby2: I knew I was missing them in the list.. ^^.... And I didn't know Joe changed his name again -_- thanks for the info. EDIT: Maybe I should keep both Darko and Joe Bloggs name, as some rips were done with the Darko name, some with Joe Bloggs (again to avoid multiple entries of the same rip if someone enters a Joe Bloggs rip with Darko name.. ?) |
Actually, they aren't the same person. I had my facts wrong. Sorry for the confusion (I always thought they were...)
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Darko and Joe Bloggs are indeed the same person. He has used several online names, and those are two of them. He's also Dogs on Acid (DOA). I've been in touch with him for over a year through IM and other mediums. He's a great guy!
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Also, I think we can add Teioh to the list, he just ripped his first game last week. |
message to neothe0ne: For the freestyle adding method, is any format ok ? Assuming you'd simply manually type the "composers", "gamerip name", "system", "ripped by" in others text fields, all you would need is to know the format for the tracklist and you can configure foobar to display the files as you wish, right?
[Disc-Track] [Track name] [Time] ... would result of... [3-01] [Main Theme] [3:10] ... is that ok or I totally didn't get the point ? |
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... that's exactly what I was talking about, just that I specified that for the moment it would only accept it the tracklisting, all other information will be entered in other text fields.
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+-------------------------------------+EDIT OK... I think I got what you really mean. A field for each track like my old website, but you just won't need to separate each column (disc, track number, title, time)... and it would create dynamically the rip has you enter new tracks.. there, let's add track number 17 from disc 3 as I missed to include it from the beginning.... I feel a bit novice here. |
@neo: ... so would you prefer separate field for each track, or a big field like my beautiful ascii schema ? One or the other doesn't matter. I just need a GO.
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yeah I'm ashamed to use a BUMP, but it's for a great cause ! I kinda NEED AN ANSWER HERE. |
I, personally, prefer the big box with parsing goodness.
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A big field would make data input easier as copy & paste of a complete list would work, wouldn't it? If so, I'd also prefer that.
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Agreed with Rimo. That would probably make it easier on both you and the rippers.
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Next is the Request page. How should it be listed ? How should it work in general ? I would want to make it automatic as much as possible. Any suggestion is welcomed.
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Anyone who feels like adding all my rips? :p
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I will need some of you to start adding new rips, edit the infos, add tracklist, etc. I tested it myself, I found one display error of the RIPPERS page in firefox (nothing in IE and Opera though), but that's all that has to be done (oh plus the Request page that I haven't done too..), so if anybody is interested, PM me.
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The Rippers' Stash is great.. easy and fast to add rips, and there's an edit feature (iirc cubed's world lacked it?). Great job! :)
Update: Other "glitched" characters: ♥, ✩, Ё, Я, ♂ |
Thanks !!
I added a basic formatting function for the "any other useful infos" field. Like a <pre> tag, but homemade. Kind of.... |
I noticed that just in the past few minutes, you added line breaks into the rip information, which was great.. and also killed word wrap. Just wanted to make sure you were aware.
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bleh... Yeah I just noticed... I'll try to fix this.....
EDIT: now it adds an extra carriage return. great.. EDIT²: works fine now.... the other infos on grawl's rips aren't pleased for the eyes the way it is formatted because of the small width reserved for that column.... Should I make it pop-up on click ? EDIT³: What? am I the only one here ? I feel lonely and I answered myself. I made a pop-up window for the other infos. Things are getting great. The website is still filling!! Now the request page..... Double Post: Fuck the edit..... I really want to implement link to dedicated FTPs that are willing to host the rips. Your FTP info (not sure yet how it's gonna work) will be given on every gamerip page. It will show if your FTP is online or not and if you have that same rip. All I'm asking the ones that are willing to do it, is to create a folder in your FTP root called, let's say "The Rippers' Stash". All subfolders should ideally named like they are called in the database. Because I'm not a PHP senior programmer, the heck I know about dynamic search for such task if you change the location and the names. Or maybe I simply put your FTP info on the pages, so the user will have to check himself to see if you have it or no. Either way, I need an answer. Double Post: Request page now online. SuperSonic, I'm gonna use your thread to fill the request page ;) |
The site is looking great so far. I'll try to get around to helping out with it soon.
P.S. You may want to actually hyperlink your signature to the site. |
I don't want to show it to everybody just now as I'm still working on it. Maybe tonight everything's gonna be fine.
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If you need any help with the site Cubed, I'd be happy to help.
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ok thanks darko :) right now it's only small features I want to try if they work, so it's gonna be fine.
@ kaleb: would a tracker on your server be a good idea for the rips ? |
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Edit: Also, I meant to ask could you please add a ripper by the name of So_Outrageous? I haven't seen the guy in a long time but I have at least one of his rips. I dunno if he's under a new name or not. |
Oh yeah Kureisama/CitizenSolo old name, heh ?
I should add Dogs on Acid as well. thanks. |
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lol and doh at the same time... I checked the one that gamemp3s.net is using and I'm totally lost how it is supposed to work. I hope someone experimented will read this and offer his help =\ for the moment FTP can work.
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cubed, is there anyway I can make a gamerip listing link to an HTTP download? I have my rips hosted for download via HTTP.
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direct download from the tracklist (click on the track individually to download) or simply a field with the url of the root where the rip is located ?
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Would this be a way to check if a game I might want to rip has been ripped already? I'm working on a rip of Skate or Die - Bad 'N Rad (Game Boy) right now. I don't think anyone else has ripped it, but I'd like to be sure.
Also, I did a rip of Rhythm Tengoku (GBA) awhile back. I can add the relevant info if you pm me the site address. |
If we fill it as much as we can, of course it's gonna be the reference for gamerips that have been done! Before showing it to the public, I want to keep it "secret" so only us can fill the database. As I don't want to have a lot or problems with duplicates. So I'm still waiting for more request to access it =\ I'm gonna send you the link.
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Sorry to bother you again cubed, but I'm gonna need you to add XBoxster to the list. He did a rip of Mission Impossible 64. :P
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XBoxster or xboxster ? :P (I'm a little picky on lowercase and uppercase, like I prefer to be called "cubed" than "Cubed" for example :p)
EDIT: Xboxster seems to be the right one. |
We now need to discuss about upcoming gamerips. What do you think ? Should we have one to track down what is currently being ripped (to avoid useless duplicates or useless requests) ? Post your comments on the subject.
PS: We can still talk about FTP mirrors too, you know.... 0 concrete answer so far. |
I definitely think we need to create a work-in progress feature, with full details, for instance, I think it'd be neat if we could have like a progress-meter of some kind, like either we rippers have an editable field where we can enter how long we believe it might take before the rip is finished or there's like a bar that we can edit depending on how far we've come with recording, editing, encoding, arranging, tagging, releasing. Also, of course - submitter name, email, game details etc. should be included. The basic stuff.
As far as FTPs concerned, I think we should look into this later, as there's still some trouble over at the My Stuff forum with viruses being uploaded. Let the dust settle for a while and we'll work something out. |
OK - I just tried this thing out and it's awesome Cubed. With all the Pizza Island/RL stuff going on I'd put this on the backburner for a bit and I'm sorry I did. Really choice work here man. :)
I'm gonna add a few more just to try it out. I'm wondering though if there should be a login feature for trusted rippers to add/edit thier material just as a failsafe to prevent people from coming in and vandalizing the info perhaps? Precautionary measure and all that jazz. |
well for the moment, no there won't be any login feature. The only thing I can do right now is to ban IPs. what's that "Pizza Island/RL stuff" you're talking about ? O_o
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Pizza Island = an event that was going on here on the GFF boards (I'm surprised you missed it considering how everybody on the main boards was doing it.) Unfortunately, participating in it had a nasty glitch that wiped out your subscribed threads, which is why I forgot all about the Rippers Stash project.
RL Stuff = Real life issues going on at the moment. :) |
I like the site cubed, I sent you an e-mail about my name, but maybe you didn't get it. I added my RR7 rip to the site, was wondering if you could uppercase my name to "Godai". Sorry for nit-picking. :D
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I'd have another suggestion, if it's possible to be done: have an option to sort the request list by systems. The list is already long and it's a bit hard to take a good look at it without feeling overwhelmed. Also, it would be easier to try to fulfill requests when all those that a ripper could do (he owns the system/game) are listed together. Thanks!
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@Rimo: Sure. The Request page is still "version 1.1" lol I just did the page like that to be able to say the request page is there. |
Cubed, just out of curiosity.. how is the single-track download box coming along? I would assume you'd just need the URL and a parser character per line, but as it says.. I won't be entering anything for fear of my life ;)
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Oh yeah I didn't work much in this feature lately...
Yeah basically line 1 will be the url of track 1, etc. With Cubed World, I was restricting where the tracks are stored, the names of the folders and tracks (for example the "?" cannot be used in the filename, and gathering every possibility of its replacement like "_" or simply nothing scares me.). So for the moment, WHEN IT WILL BE DONE AND WORKING, we'll stick with basic one url per line. Anyway all the information you need will be shown. Good news, I didn't kill anybody. Cause I didn't check if we have curious here. So be scared. |
Would my rip of the 18 Wii Channel songs count? If so, I'll add it, though I'm not sure who the composer is.
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Sure. A rip is a rip :) As for the composer.... let's just say "Nintendo" is fine.
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And rips of game discs (I have the actual game and rip .mp3s from the disc) can be added too, I assume? Is there a proper name for that, or are they just called rips?
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Please excuse my ignorance, but how can I determine that? I'm using Exact Audio Copy to rip the songs from the game discs, fyi.
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If you're copying CD audio tracks, then it's Redbook audio. I think the confusion was in them thinking that you were pulling actual MP3s from the game data.
Incidentally, having just now gotten caught up here, you could probably add my name to the list. I've done a few rips, with another on the way as soon as I can get a proper tracklisting. How do you get to this site, anyway? |
Infernal Monkey has recently joined us as a ripper. ='D
He has a test run rip here, but he plans to make some serious rips soon. cubed, if you want me to take care of simple duties like adding new rippers to the database, I can do that. Also, as a general note, I make database backups of my entire server about every week, so everyone can be assured that all information will be safe from destruction. |
I added all my recent rips. With that, The Rippers' Stash now has over 500 rips listed.
Just thought I'd note that. :p |
just wondering... I follow this thread in silent, has the site been opened to public now?
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as it only contains infos of "available" rips, I don't really see the point to show it to the public just now. I would need some volunteers to host the gamerips and who are willing to "fuse" it with the website. Or if anybody is willing to host a tracker for torrents, that would be nice too.
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So how do you get access to this site?
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I finally got around to contributing something. It's alot easier to add rips than cubed world, so I'll probably add all my rips soon. The list of available systems is very incomplete though, do you intend to make it larger?
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Just tell me which ones you need and me or kaleb will add them as soon as possible.
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I don't need them for any rips I've done just yet but you might consider adding these systems since I have seen rips in the past:
Amiga CD32 Atari Jaguar Atari Lynx Bandai Wondersawn/Color NEC PC-88 NEC PC-9801 NEC PC-Engine NEC PC-Engine Super CD Nokia N-Gage Panasonic 3DO Philips CD-i Sega 32X SNK Neo Geo SNK Neo Geo Pocket/Color Also I think Computer should be divided into Windows PC and Mac. |
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Is there a real difference ? Are there any Mac-exclusive games out there ??
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For rips that were done by other people than those listed or by unknown rippers, could there be a "Other/Unknown" option? This might lead to a mess though, I'm aware of that, but still, I don't know what better way there could be to enter those rips into the database.
Also, do you still have plans to make the site go public? If so, do you have a specific date in mind? |
Damn the last backup before the crash was done earlier than I thought :(
I was asking you guys about the impact of going public just now. Do you think I should add accounts or "anonymous" submissions is still fine ? Cause frankly I haven't worked much on TRS lately. The only thing still missing is the FTP/directlink insertion, which I thought would be a great idea. Any FTP owners volunteers ? PM me please. |
Accounts, definitely accounts. Otherwise we'll be looking at a lot of vandalism and fake entries. No fun at all.
And as you know, there's plenty of hosting available, so don't worry about FTP's and servers. ;) |
Well I meant I'd rather have "gamerips dedicated" FTP, fast, reliable, so I can direct link them (kind of how it worked with Cubed World). For example buddyA's FTP has Final Fantasy XXIX gamerip, but buddyB's doesn't. I won't need to edit the page manually, as the script will log itself to the FTP of both "buddy" and show a green or red flag whether the wanted rip is found or not.
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I'm seconding the accounts.
I run an FTP server and I wouldn't mind being a host at all. Two things though - one is that I lost all of my VGM on Easter and I'm trying to gain it all back (which shouldn't be much of a problem since I mailed a hard drive to Kairyu) - the other is that I can't keep it on 24/7. I'll try to do something to make the latter happen though, if I can be a host. :) |
I think I'll agree with the accounts. There are only so many people who are going to be inputting information anyway. If they're serious about contributing, they won't mind registering -- especially if you make the process easy and secure.
Additional Spam: For reference, here are some of the posts that were made since the last backup. I got these from a subscription email. http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/sh...239#post429239 Posted by: cubed On: Apr 25, 2007 02:28 PM Well let's all debate. Wide open. Just like that. All together. Do you think I should create account ? Do you think I should insert some kind of admin maganement just like GFA did (when it was alive -_-) ? Those questions discussed out of this thread until now... I want to know how people are expecting the rippers' stash to become. .. Like... to summarize what has already been discussed. ************ http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/sh...334#post429334 Posted by: Rimo On: Apr 25, 2007 05:00 PM To avoid having any wrong info added and good info removed by malicious people, I guess that creating accounts would be a solution. On the other hand, all of the update charge would be upon those with accounts, so it might make things more heavy and difficult in the long run, if the database is to become even larger than it already is. So, it's not an obvious choice to make, but for me, I'd opt for the safer side, by including accounts. However, I'd give enough to make sure there are several people involved so that the updates can be made regularly and in a lighter fashion. What I'm expecting from the stash is an elaborated database for game rips, which is something that doesn't exist on the web (or anymore... see cubed world ;)). A central point of reference! It would have to go public too, to reach its full potential of usefulness. ************ http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/ge...ost429337.html Posted by: Drakken On: Apr 25, 2007 05:05 PM I agree with Rimo. I envision The Rippers' Stash as the place to check to see if a rip of a certain game has ever been done (and if so, who did it, where it's available, etc.). |
hi I'm a blind as a bat reading comprehension-deprived jerk asshole who bumps old threads.
Did a rips database ever happen? I really need a reference to see if I'm going to be making unnecessary rips if I ever get around to actually ripping stuff. |
It's been a while that I didn't work on new updates for the website.. Sorry guys ;_;
I might have some free time tomorrow (I'm not working this weekend WTF). I'm going to create accounts, as it would be more secure to avoid any wrong submission. But I still want direct download links... So it's not really going public just now. Sorry. |
well, please PM me when it's ready for usage by trusted individuals. and, uh, I guess when I'm a trusted individual.
(Wouldn't it make more sense to open a public beta version that only features direct downloads for SFV/TXT/NFO files, and then demo the direct downloads of music in a place on your webspace that isn't easily accessible?) |
To everyone who's working on this project: GFA is now known as VGMdb, and our focus is now pretty much limited to actual albums (and digital releases packaged in album format). Which means no clashing of interests, and happy collaboration possibilities!
It's probably a bit early at this stage, but if you're interested feel free to shoot me a PM. |
Any updates on the project? I'm still looking forward to the day it will go public with great anticipation.
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I got a few rips I never uploaded anywhere. Shining Force 2, Lunar: Dragon Sword, and Last Bible 2.
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Still waiting for a reply.
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cubed, you still alive, man? =}
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