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Elite Beat Agents (sequel to Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan)
I never played the first one, but I may have to now! This looks pretty awesome.
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YES. OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG This is the best way to handle a game like this. I played the hell out of the import, but I would have been bored if it was just simply ported. Having it become a whole new entity is incredible. Just a shame that the trailer is so short and we didn't get to hear any songs. I'm wondering if they'll keep the same kind of vocal intensity as the original. I mean, even I was shouting "Dai! sei! kou!" at the end of each song. |
Wow, unless they have a completely intolerable soundtrack, I will buy this without question.
The world needs more OSU! |
Interesting. I'm fine with the original, but I may pick it up depending on the humor and music selection.
What happened to Band Brothers? |
This is a sequel right? Everyone's response to the poster seems to indicate that this is a port for some reason. Either way, this game promises to be awesome.
Also, at the end of every song, they shout DAI SE GO! Meaning, big victory or something similar.. |
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I never expected a sequel. Makes me glad I imported the original, even though I suck at it!
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hmmmm... Not sure what to make of this. I welcome the western introduction of Ouendan but I'm not so fond of the localisation thus far. I'd rather have them keep the original characters and let the booklet or some intro in the menu explain the ouendan cultural phenomenon. Replacing ouendan for secret agents would make the backstory seem even less plausable. Why not replace them with cheerleaders instead and replace the cheerleaders from the original with Michael Jackson?
But then again, the one who decided to go this way got hired to make up localisation schemes like this and I am just some Dutch guy with a computer. |
Who cares about these men in black, as long as we get hot anime cheerleaders for the Insane difficulty level lololol.
I finished Ouendan not too long ago, and i LOVE IT! It's one of my fave games ever, and I'm very much looking forward to this Western take on it! |
I'm close to completing the original Ouendan with all S grades. I'm gonna clock the game soon!
The more Ouendan the better. |
Check it out guys. First song revieled. Seems to fit the Ouendan mood. I can already hear the beats and whistles going to it.
"Walkie Talkie Man" from Steriogram bananas |
You know, judging by that, I wouldn't be surprised if they used all the songs from the iPod ads hahah!
Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl Steriogram - Walkie Talkie Man Caesars - Jerk It Out U2 - Vertigo Eminem - Lose Yourself.....LOL! I honestly don't care what the music lineup is. This game is already on my Most Wanted list. |
That song is great, it has a similar feeling to a lot of Ouendan's music. Since a lot of the J-Rock that was used is heavily influenced by western pop and rock music, I think it should be easy to find a soundtrack that fits well with the spirit. I'm kinda hoping for something along the lines of Kokoro Odoru though, it's one of my favorite songs from the first game and it has a style that you don't hear much over here (kind of a hip-hop/latin fusion).
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Yep, this is looking like quite the game to pick up, if only for that guy's huuuge pompadour. That's insane.
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Asian Kung-Fu Generation (the first stage, Studying), Orange Range (Policemen vs Robot invasion), L~arc-en-ciel (Meteor!) and Morning Musume (Office lady) were the biggest contemporary J-pop acts that I recgonised.
And Linda Yamamoto (Cleopatra) was the only older song that I recgonised. And I'm sure all the other featured artists/songs were/are popular too. If the song selection in Ouendan is any indication, Elite Beat Agents will have some hugely popular pop rock songs in it, which is nothing except AWESOME =D |
Man, I never played the original, but this game looks too good to pass up. I'll definitely be getting it when it comes out.
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the 'blues bros-esq' characters look really good, in my opinion. If there were any brittany dancers in this game i would cry for a thousand years. This looks great! hopefully as funny as ouendan.
for your interest: ouendan.be website with international rankings, etc |
Oh my god it's a manga version of PETER JACKSON.
I've read alot on this so-called "sequel" to Ouendan. I don't like the characters but essentially the gameplay is still there. And Walkie Talkie Man is a great song. Steriogram is a band from New Zealand and I've seen them live in concert, they're also pretty good live as well. If there's a bunch of angst/emo songs on this, such as Green Day and My Chemical Romance, forget it. |
The new characters are awesome! Awesome! That hairdo!
I love this manga guy, seriously. Did he do any anime shows? Hope they put on some Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkeys! Man, I am like so excited about this freakin' game. It's the best. |
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Seriously though, they're quite similar to the pop-rock that was in the original game, and if Walkie Talkie Man is any indication, that's the direction they're going for this game as well. I don't see what's so weird about it, really. Maybe you're just a trolling moron, though, who knows. |
Franz Ferdinand I don't mind as much as I do the Artic Monkeys, but I think there are better song choices that can be made.
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Regardless of our difference in opinion of what constitutes good music, I'd still get it if it's full of (what I would consider) rubbish music. I bloody hate Orange Range and nobodyknows+ (on account of their being absolutely worthless), but I still got Osu, and enjoyed the levels with their music in almost as much as the ones with good songs. |
Shandghai Honey was a great song.... Too bad the sequence in the game didn't use any part of one of their show, with hundreds of asian babes in bikini..... whooooo......
And is it really a sequel? I heard it was just another game in the series since it's not related, except for the concept. |
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I think they're marketing it as an Western-aimed version of the game, though. But that would still fall under my definition of a sequel, since it has (presumably) completely new material. |
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I wouldn't call it a sequel myself. It has the feel of the original game, but they're not related and there's no ties between the two. Though that's like saying Pop'n Music 10 and 11 aren't related - it doesn't really matter, you're not playing it for it's story. |
Bump for tiny box art and November 6th release date.
http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/arti...1043106154.jpg Needs more song list. And bigger box art. |
Can you post that in a larger size, it's too small.
Also song lists (thanks Acer ='D) Edit: List removed for now, as multiple sites are reporting this as fake. This list has been floating around, but hasn't been 100% confirmed. I can't say whether it's official or not. Some of the songs in that are pretty bad. (But some are pretty awesome, too. Like Walkie and Hardware Store.) |
Wow. That song list has completely destroyed any traces of me wanting this game. Import ftw.
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Oh yeah, I saw that on PGC's forums, hope it is official, because aside from a select few it's quite good! Linkin Park will make everyone put holes in their touch screens.
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Don't be such a tightass about this and just be glad they even decided to attempt a localization. |
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You can't expect great english tracks with these things. |
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They didn't change a thing with the Katamari games or any of the other quirky games like that when they brought them over, and that's what made them great. Would Katamari Damacy have been as good with shit like Savage Garden or The Offspring? I think not. |
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It has very little relevance to this except that it's japanese. |
I would have loved to roll shit up in CataScan MyAtari to Linkin Park's Crawling. Roll it up slowly, oh yeah, that's it. Pelvic thrusts and all that while playing. It'd be the best interactive video computer game ever developed.
Anyway I guess Nintendo figured everyone who wanted the original would import anyway, which they did. |
Guys, I'm sure that Japanese teenagers (at least, the very few that actually bought Ouendan in Japan) hated some of the songs for being too mainstream, too.
Just because it's in Japanese doesn't mean that the native population isn't as embarrassed to listen to it as you are when Britney Spears or some shit emo band plays. |
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This really isn't a bad playlist, so far. |
Yeah, seriously guys. Go listen to Hardware Store. It's one of Weird Al's best original songs and totally works and the stage is going to be just incredible I'm sure. The inclusion of this has made this game an instant buy.
Listen to it now! And even if you don't like some of the songs there's no denying that they'll make great stages. It would be great if they could insert some Hard Gay into the stage for Livin' la Vida Loca or cheering some emo kid to cut himself for Linkin Park. I'm sure anything they come up with for the stages will be gold but most important is Hardware Store. That'll be godly. |
I've heard that list is completely made-up, and I'm pretty sure it is. It came around shortly after the Nintendo press release about its fall/winter lineup, probably because someone wanted to make it more believable. The problem is it wasn't a part of Nintendo's press release, and there's no official source for it that I've seen.
To my knowledge the only 2 confirmed songs are Steriogram - Walkie Talkie Man and Deep Purple - Highway Star, because they were at E3. Besides, it lacks REM's "It's the End of the World as We Know It" which just HAS to be the last song on EBA. :P edit: "It's fake. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111826 Chris Kohler (known as Kobun Heat at GAF), respectable Western/Japanese games journalist and close-close buddy with iNiS stated it as such. Put it one way, I'd trust him way more than this speculative list that has just come out of nowhere." So there you go. I actually would've liked Sweet Child O Mine, but the rest is "meh" anyway. I'm pretty happy it's fake. |
I will be very disappointed if that's true and "Hardware Store" isn't in the game. :mad:
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Well, I couldn't care less about the other tracks (although I would love "Go With The Flow"), but HARDWARE STORE. It better be true, they got me all excited about it now! :(
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I've been researching the song list, and everywhere I've looked, this song list has been reported as fake. So I'll remove it. I'll still buy it based on two things: 1) It has Ouendan's engine and 2) It has Walkie Talkie Man.
It's a shame, somewhat. The opportunity of them fucking up and dishing out a worse song list is still open. But it's an even bigger shame that some certain people can't enjoy a game based solely on it's song list. In that case, Amplitude shouldn't be played. Which is just wrong. Unfortunately, Hardware Store won't be playable after all. |
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I guess I'll just listen to it over and over. And cry. |
Haaay guys, no track list yet, but new screens go!
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...not sure what to make of those, but they do look interesting...
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Tracklist has been revealed for lol, 19 songs all up.
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Well I believe in life after love. I'll still be getting this game. :)
However I still wish Hardware Store was in it. :( |
Aw man, that's fucking poor. I was really looking foward to this game, too. But really, there's only a couple of songs I'd be interested in. YMCA is one of them.
# Sk8er Boi - Avril Lavigne # Y.M.C.A. - Village People # Material Girl - Madonna # La La - Ashlee Simpson # Without a Fight - Hoobastank # Believe - Cher # Makes No Difference - Sum 41 # The Anthem - Good Charlotte SUM 41. GOOD CHARLOTTE. ASHLEE SIMPSON. MADONNA. CHER. COULD THIS GET ANY WORSE? http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7...titled2oq7.jpg Oh hell no. |
Why the fuck are Ashlee Simpson, Avril, Sum 41, Destiny's Child and Good Charlotte shitting all over this game?
This is why I wish music games would just have their own original songs rather than borrow what's out on the radio. I think I'll just stick to the import version now. Cher can stay though. :tpg: |
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About the only thing that can save this game now is the gameplay, which I would imagine they couldn't actually manage to screw up. |
To offer a theory, maybe those girlish tracks are for a female-centric story mode. Didn't the original Ouendan have female cheerleaders as the leads in Hard mode?
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The list doesn't seem all that different from the japanese one in the sense that it is just a bunch of mainstream crap.
Most of you hate the soundtrack for Elite beat agents, and the same can be said for most japanese people in regards to ouendan. I'm currently livin in japan and the only songs my friends can tolerate if any of us play ouendan is " Linda Linda ". |
If that's the case then Nintendo should had sold Ouendan in North America and Agents in Japan. XP (no really, I WOULD like that)
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Though on second thought, the EBA list isn't so bad. Even Ouendan had songs I disliked (egyptian level specifically) and I'm a huge weeaboo. I just don't understand how they find Survivor a fitting song for this game. |
I just wonder which one of these is going to be the final level song that you'll be hearing over and over as you fail.
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But I have a very strong hunch that it will be Britney Spears - Baby One More Time You know it makes sense :tpg::tpg: |
Aren't the songs in the game covers? The videos that they have on IGN with the songs Highway Star and Walkie Talkie Man have completely different singers(The Steriogram song actually sounds better).
It's not the songs so much as the singers I don't like. Most(excluding Deep Purple and anything before the 90's) of the almost-decent written songs are ruined by the singers inability to sing them. Edit:And it was reported somewhere that the final song hasn't been announced yet. |
Fucking better be Hardware Store. :mad:
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Though a lot of this list is not so good, I'm really looking forward to playing "Rock This Town" and "Canned Heat".
Agreed about Hardware Store. That would be the perfect Ouendan song. |
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As long as the covers sound close I have no problems. |
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I could see it right now! Someone goes in for their job interview at the new Hardware Store opening up on the other side of town, which is about to get hit by a giant meteor! IT'S GENIUS NINTENDO |
IGN Updates with more videos.
YMCA is freaking awesome! Seeing them do the YMCA poses instantly brung tears to my eyes, it was so freaking COOL!!. And after listening to all of the songs featured in this game, I only found 5 songs that I can't stand(Destiny's Child, Lavigne, Simpson, Madonna and Cher) opposed to the whole track list for Ouendan. Next friday can't get here soon enough. |
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9.5 After them giving God Hand a low score, Touch Detective a low score, and now EBA with it's questionable tracklist a ridiculous 9.5, I'm never going to visit IGN again. Not that I made a habit of doing this, but what the hell. I should've learned when they gave Jade Empire a score of what, 9.9 or something? Yeah. |
The track list isn't nearly as horrible as the crud that Ouendan had coursing through its veins, yet people still complain. Sure EBA has Average Lavigne, Destiny's Child and a Ashley Simpson on its track list, but those three songs are minor nuisances when you have artists like David Bowie, Deep Purple, Queen and Rolling Stones.
It's sickening. Edit: The guy pretty much speaks for everyone when it comes to EBA and OTO!. For the lazy: Spoiler:
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Actually, I watched the September vid, and it looks really fun. I totally can't wait. Thank goodness they are *probably* playing hard in those vids, because it looks a lot more interesting like that.
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I'm cised for this game's release. Other than a minimal amount of Donkey Konga, I haven't played any music/rhythm game for over a year now; and the last title of the genre I did play was: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!, which was a ridiculous amount of fun. Just have to make sure I use earphones when I play it in public. Some of those "artists"... Destiny's Child, Good Charlotte, Ashlee Simpson. :(
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I like how this game's already been leaked into newsgroups already.
Downloading right now, I'll see how this thing turns out. Edit: Ugh, how the hell is this thing 105MB. |
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Anyway:Reviews for the game have been amazing! Nintendo Power gave it a 9.5. IGN giving it a 9.5 and now 1up.com giving a solid 9. |
Well, I've given it a shot and personally, I don't enjoy it compared to OTO.. At least with OTO, the cheerleading was part of the culture. With this one, you've just got random men showing up and dancing for no particular reason. I also find that Japanese voice actors are way more enthusiastic about their yelling than english voice actors are. Oh well, it's still a good attempt.. Not bad for a localisation of a crazy Japanese game.
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I've played it for a solid 2 hours and here's what I've managed to gather from playing it.
First of all, normal mode is really fucking weird if you've played Hard/Insane Ouendan. Weird as in, it's extremely slow moving. Every song you clear opens up 2 more stages. Some songs, on the other hand, are really good. The christmas and nurse stages are really nice, and even The Anthem is pretty cool. Unfortunately this is countered by shit like David Bowie and Material Girl (which happens to remind me of Paris Hilton and Nicole) and that song from the director's level, which sounds and feels out of tune and pretty lame. I'm sure when I get to hard mode it'll become better. The comic style is still the same, which is nice. The only problem with the stories is that some of them are so farfetched it's like they just threw anything together to add songs. But yeah, I'll play around with it later tonight. My neck hurts like hell from being in the same position for such a long period of time while playing this. I'll let you know what the final song is. Also yeah, I agree with kensuke. I wouldn't give this game a score over Ouendan, to be honest. Personally I enjoyed Ouendan more, but this is still a pretty solid game. Still, giving it a 9.5 is ridiculous. |
I've finished the game now, and some of the gameplay mechanics have been vastly improved in this one. I think I'm just biased towards Ouendan because I liked the j-rock and mood better, but this game is genuinely good. Being able to skip straight to the 3-2-1 saves so much time (Ready Steady Go on hard mode anyone?)
EDIT - Ok, I just checked the song list and I did not hear ABC - Jackson 5 anywhere in the game.. Any idea how to unlock it? |
Well, I got the ROM, and...it's not compatible with G6 Lite, I guess. So much for being a cheapass :p
But lucky for me, I was planning to buy it anyway. I'm glad it has been getting good reviews, and that it has made improvements in some ways over Ouendan. Can't wait until I have a few bucks so I can go get it. |
The score of 9.5 was to cater for the average 'touch-gen' gamer. For those who have played Ouendan, read another review, or just don't and judge for yourself if it's better or not.
I myself see a lot of improvements, as Kensuke mentioned, cutting straight to the chase is a very good thing, as is the multiplayer and unlockables presentation-wise. The comic panels seem to drag on for some, but then once you've seen them, you'll proobably skip them subsequently. They are corny, but in-game work rather well still. Ouendan -> Healp! and "Agents are.. Go!!" are really annoying though. The beats actually seem weak with less cymbal crash and more tinny thumps, and the song selection ain't that great (after all the songs make this game); strangely the oldies fare better imo. But the Anthem rocked nonetheless! A good rhythm action game. It just doesn't have the freshness of its maker, and some copied aspects don't translate too well to English. Still solid fun, especially for those not in the know. But everything EBA does well, Ouendan did better, and it did it last year. 8/10 from me. |
Question (without spoiling which songs are used):
1. Is there another tear-jerker song / story like Over the Distance from Ouendan? 2. Is the final song kickass? |
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I got this yesterday and I've already beaten it on all difficulties. Frickin' cool game. I don't even get annoyed by most of the songs. EBA==Ouendan. Seriously. I totally love the final stage though. Some of the scenarios are kinda weird though.
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he wuz a sk8r boi she sed c u l8r boi
he wuznt gud enuff 4 hur Sooooooo I just finished Elite Beat Agents. The playlist is awful. AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. To tell you just how awful it was, I am going to use text. First level starts you out playing "Walkie Talkie Man" by Steriogram. Okay, this song would be decent if THE LYRICS WERE BY THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL SINGER, but no. I've seen Steriogram in concert (they're a NZ band) and the were pretty good. This however, isn't. Normal mode is also extremely slow and runs at about half the pace of the song. Second level's "Sk8r Boi" by Canada Gets Known for Something. You have to PRESS the CIRCLES when she SAID see you LATER boy. Yeah this song doesn't even feel right, but it isn't half as bad as some of the others the game as to offer, so whatever. I'd much rather play this over something like David Bowie. BUT WAIT, FUCK BOWIES. We have Madonna - Material Girl to The game opens up 1/2 levels every time you pass a level. Does it get better? HELL NO. Well actually kinda, but every awesome song is immediately shunned by one which isn't. You're going to be playing La La, Canned Heat, and You're The Inspiration over and over. Seriously, I'm not joking around. For some reason Destiny's Child - Survivor and Cher - Believe aren't in the single player mode. This is a good thing. But there's a POSITIVE SIDE to this game. Ignoring the fact that there's only 3 songs I really enjoyed, the art style is exactly the same as Ouendan. Also, they've used sound effects from Ouendan in parts of the comic strips, which will mean nothing to anyone who hasn't played Ouendan, but I liked it. The last song is pretty cool, as well. It took me 4-5 ties before I was able to beat it. Hard mode is shaping up to be pretty good as well. Cher - Believe is in hard mode only it seems, so I'm just guessing ABC and Survivor are also in hard or whatever comes after hard. That's basically it. 3 good songs. Good comics. I doubt this has as much replay value as Ouendan did, and overall I still prefer it over this, but I definitely wouldn't give it a 9.5 like IGN did. A solid 7.5 would be better, I guess. |
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After playing this for a night straight, I finally managed to beat Crusin' mode. Now i'm on Sweatin' and struggling on the same damn song that gave me problems in Crusin' mode. T_T I I guess out of all the songs, You're The Inspiration is my favorite. Don't ask. I just like the damn song. The Final Stage gave me so many problems, it's not even funny. It probably took me 20+ plays to finall beat it. UGH. I STILL HAVE TO BEAT SWEATIN' SO I COULD UNLOCK KHAN. THEN MY LIFE WILL BE SET. |
Unlike most people, I like the "sad song" stage from Ouendan better than EBA. EBA's seemed a little TOO sappy, as if they were just trying to top the first game instead of crafting a new scenario.
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However, this game is on the whole a great sequel. I love the "skip intro" feature, it really speeds up the playthroughs. The final stage(s) are incredible, it really got me emotionally involved with the songs. It completely topped RSG from Ouendan. |
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Is it just me or is Material Girl and Canned Heat on Sweatin' incredibly difficult?
I can't get past the first part in Material Girl when they send a bunch of 14-chains on you. I dunno why. |
You're the Inspiration sounds kinda funny to me. I dunno why but it does.
But yeah, Canned Heat is awesome and I love playing that stage. The beats are confusing at first but then you'll figure it out. There are a lot of quick double taps. About the bonus songs: If you get the bonus songs, then you WILL have to complete them in the later difficulties, making it somewhat part of the normal game. Also, if you complete Crusin' and then go back to Breezin', then you have to complete every bonus song you unlocked. And I agree with everything Jazz said about the ending, and the tragedy stage. The ending totally rocks though. |
They're all done by different artists anyway... Like in The Anthem where you hear the guy singing crack his voice a little singing "Don't wanna be just~ like you." in the chorus.
But now I can't beat Jumpin' Jack Flash on Sweatin'. Getting 50s SERIOUSLY does NOT save me now... I hate how they expect you to perfect the whole song. Their standards got too high. |
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Yeah, I know that they're covers. Especially JJF, because the original version is pretty slow compared to this one. In my opinion, this version of The Anthem sounds better than the original.
On another note, I've gotten only 4 100's on Hard Rock JJF. I got 3 of them at the end. ;_; My hand shakin' so bad. |
I got the game last night. I like it so far. I'm only on Cruisin' and I'm up to the
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And BR, pretty damn far.
Anyway, I still haven't had any luck with beating JJF on Sweatin'. Mostly after the 2nd checkpoint in the songs where you get all those 14-hit runs. Those seriously piss me off, and it still does. T_T |
Yay! So I cleared all the songs on all difficulties today. Got Commander Kahn leading the Elite Beat Divas... word. O_o
So, I'm done... unless I wanna score higher. Back to Phoenix Wright! :p |
Go for some S ranks. that's my plan now
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I just unlocked Hard Rock mode. I'm pretty sure I'm not even going to play that, it's just silly how hard it is.
I could deal with the reduced marker size. I could deal with it if they just gave every song rhythms on par with Jumpin Jack Flash in difficulty. I could deal with those things, but I can't deal with the fact that they made every marker show up approximately 1 second before you have to hit it. |
I got my paycheck today and decided to finally get this one. Don't know what to say, really. The system remains intact, which is nice. The soundtrack isn't exactly comprised of my favorite songs, but neither is Ouendan's, so whatever. My biggest complaint, having played through Normal and Hard mode, is that the hits are really oddly placed in many songs. It just seems really unnatural the way some of them are syncopated, Canned Heat and Without a Fight coming immediately to mind. It seems like a lot of western music is more loose in its timing than J-Rock, which must make it harder to sync it up properly.
Jumpin' Jack Flash, however, makes up for any deficiency the game might have, as it's not only an awesome song (and a good cover, at that), but it has some of the best patterns in either game. There some other good ones like September, YTI, Rock This Town (yay, they used the Brian Setzer Orchestra version, I love that arrangement), Let's Dance...maybe some others. I'd say the good and bad songs are pretty evenly matched up. |
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