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NovaX May 9, 2006 11:13 PM

Elite Beat Agents (sequel to Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan)
 
I never played the first one, but I may have to now! This looks pretty awesome.

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/203/eba2nu.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6066/eba06xr.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5951/eba14ba.jpghttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1686/eba33ya.jpg

There is also a trailer up at IGN.

JazzFlight May 9, 2006 11:27 PM

HELL.
YES.

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

This is the best way to handle a game like this. I played the hell out of the import, but I would have been bored if it was just simply ported. Having it become a whole new entity is incredible.

Just a shame that the trailer is so short and we didn't get to hear any songs. I'm wondering if they'll keep the same kind of vocal intensity as the original. I mean, even I was shouting "Dai! sei! kou!" at the end of each song.

NES Oldskooler May 9, 2006 11:42 PM

Wow, unless they have a completely intolerable soundtrack, I will buy this without question.

The world needs more OSU!

Kesubei May 10, 2006 03:31 AM

Interesting. I'm fine with the original, but I may pick it up depending on the humor and music selection.

What happened to Band Brothers?

kensuke May 10, 2006 04:25 AM

This is a sequel right? Everyone's response to the poster seems to indicate that this is a port for some reason. Either way, this game promises to be awesome.

Also, at the end of every song, they shout DAI SE GO! Meaning, big victory or something similar..

FatsDomino May 10, 2006 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWittyComment
Interesting. I'm fine with the original, but I may pick it up depending on the humor and music selection.

What happened to Band Brothers?

Band Bros? Just import it. It's relatively import friendly. I had a lot of fun with it and it's a bit too late in the game to release it over here now in my opinion. I'm so glad that this is like a new version of Oudendan. Now it makes the original an import must.

Chairman Kaga May 10, 2006 07:39 AM

I never expected a sequel. Makes me glad I imported the original, even though I suck at it!

SciEnTiFiK May 10, 2006 08:38 AM

hmmmm... Not sure what to make of this. I welcome the western introduction of Ouendan but I'm not so fond of the localisation thus far. I'd rather have them keep the original characters and let the booklet or some intro in the menu explain the ouendan cultural phenomenon. Replacing ouendan for secret agents would make the backstory seem even less plausable. Why not replace them with cheerleaders instead and replace the cheerleaders from the original with Michael Jackson?

But then again, the one who decided to go this way got hired to make up localisation schemes like this and I am just some Dutch guy with a computer.

Tama8-chan May 10, 2006 09:39 AM

Who cares about these men in black, as long as we get hot anime cheerleaders for the Insane difficulty level lololol.

I finished Ouendan not too long ago, and i LOVE IT!
It's one of my fave games ever, and I'm very much looking forward to this Western take on it!

chaofan May 10, 2006 09:56 AM

I'm close to completing the original Ouendan with all S grades. I'm gonna clock the game soon!

The more Ouendan the better.

FatsDomino May 10, 2006 05:33 PM

Check it out guys. First song revieled. Seems to fit the Ouendan mood. I can already hear the beats and whistles going to it.

"Walkie Talkie Man" from Steriogram

bananas

Tama8-chan May 11, 2006 11:56 PM

You know, judging by that, I wouldn't be surprised if they used all the songs from the iPod ads hahah!
Jet - Are You Gonna Be My Girl
Steriogram - Walkie Talkie Man
Caesars - Jerk It Out
U2 - Vertigo
Eminem - Lose Yourself.....LOL!

I honestly don't care what the music lineup is. This game is already on my Most Wanted list.

Toma May 12, 2006 12:08 AM

That song is great, it has a similar feeling to a lot of Ouendan's music. Since a lot of the J-Rock that was used is heavily influenced by western pop and rock music, I think it should be easy to find a soundtrack that fits well with the spirit. I'm kinda hoping for something along the lines of Kokoro Odoru though, it's one of my favorite songs from the first game and it has a style that you don't hear much over here (kind of a hip-hop/latin fusion).

DJ Gear May 12, 2006 12:35 AM

Yep, this is looking like quite the game to pick up, if only for that guy's huuuge pompadour. That's insane.

Tama8-chan May 12, 2006 07:34 AM

Asian Kung-Fu Generation (the first stage, Studying), Orange Range (Policemen vs Robot invasion), L~arc-en-ciel (Meteor!) and Morning Musume (Office lady) were the biggest contemporary J-pop acts that I recgonised.
And Linda Yamamoto (Cleopatra) was the only older song that I recgonised.
And I'm sure all the other featured artists/songs were/are popular too.

If the song selection in Ouendan is any indication, Elite Beat Agents will have some hugely popular pop rock songs in it, which is nothing except AWESOME =D

Rockgamer May 14, 2006 08:28 PM

Man, I never played the original, but this game looks too good to pass up. I'll definitely be getting it when it comes out.

kojiro_ Jun 15, 2006 12:32 AM

the 'blues bros-esq' characters look really good, in my opinion. If there were any brittany dancers in this game i would cry for a thousand years. This looks great! hopefully as funny as ouendan.

for your interest: ouendan.be website with international rankings, etc

Elixir Jun 15, 2006 02:19 AM

Oh my god it's a manga version of PETER JACKSON.

I've read alot on this so-called "sequel" to Ouendan. I don't like the characters but essentially the gameplay is still there. And Walkie Talkie Man is a great song. Steriogram is a band from New Zealand and I've seen them live in concert, they're also pretty good live as well. If there's a bunch of angst/emo songs on this, such as Green Day and My Chemical Romance, forget it.

surasshu Jun 15, 2006 06:28 AM

The new characters are awesome! Awesome! That hairdo!

I love this manga guy, seriously. Did he do any anime shows?

Hope they put on some Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkeys! Man, I am like so excited about this freakin' game. It's the best.

NovaX Jun 15, 2006 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surasshu
Hope they put on some Franz Ferdinand and Arctic Monkeys! Man, I am like so excited about this freakin' game. It's the best.

I hope you are not serious, if you are get out.

surasshu Jun 15, 2006 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaX
I hope you are not serious, if you are get out.

I am. (Getting out... ;_; )

Seriously though, they're quite similar to the pop-rock that was in the original game, and if Walkie Talkie Man is any indication, that's the direction they're going for this game as well. I don't see what's so weird about it, really. Maybe you're just a trolling moron, though, who knows.

NovaX Jun 15, 2006 07:43 AM

Franz Ferdinand I don't mind as much as I do the Artic Monkeys, but I think there are better song choices that can be made.

surasshu Jun 15, 2006 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaX
Franz Ferdinand I don't mind as much as I do the Artic Monkeys, but I think there are better song choices that can be made.

Oh you do huh. Get out. =D

Regardless of our difference in opinion of what constitutes good music, I'd still get it if it's full of (what I would consider) rubbish music. I bloody hate Orange Range and nobodyknows+ (on account of their being absolutely worthless), but I still got Osu, and enjoyed the levels with their music in almost as much as the ones with good songs.

cubed Jun 15, 2006 04:12 PM

Shandghai Honey was a great song.... Too bad the sequence in the game didn't use any part of one of their show, with hundreds of asian babes in bikini..... whooooo......

And is it really a sequel? I heard it was just another game in the series since it's not related, except for the concept.

surasshu Jun 15, 2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubed
And is it really a sequel? I heard it was just another game in the series since it's not related, except for the concept.

I guess it depends on your definition of sequel. It doesn't "continue the story" but then there wasn't much of one to speak of. "Another game in the series" is kind of what I would define a sequel as, so yeah.

I think they're marketing it as an Western-aimed version of the game, though. But that would still fall under my definition of a sequel, since it has (presumably) completely new material.

Elixir Jun 15, 2006 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surasshu
It doesn't "continue the story" but then there wasn't much of one to speak of.

Sure there is! A bunch of japanese citizens are having difficulties with their daily activities, then suddenly a HUEG meteor is spotted heading towards the earth. What do you do? GET ON UP AND DANCE. Yes, that's an idiot-proof way of preventing a disaster.

I wouldn't call it a sequel myself. It has the feel of the original game, but they're not related and there's no ties between the two. Though that's like saying Pop'n Music 10 and 11 aren't related - it doesn't really matter, you're not playing it for it's story.

Infernal Monkey Aug 1, 2006 09:51 PM

Bump for tiny box art and November 6th release date.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/arti...1043106154.jpg

Needs more song list. And bigger box art.

Elixir Aug 1, 2006 10:00 PM

Can you post that in a larger size, it's too small.

Also song lists (thanks Acer ='D)

Edit: List removed for now, as multiple sites are reporting this as fake.

This list has been floating around, but hasn't been 100% confirmed. I can't say whether it's official or not. Some of the songs in that are pretty bad. (But some are pretty awesome, too. Like Walkie and Hardware Store.)

WolfDemon Aug 1, 2006 10:28 PM

Wow. That song list has completely destroyed any traces of me wanting this game. Import ftw.

Infernal Monkey Aug 1, 2006 10:43 PM

Oh yeah, I saw that on PGC's forums, hope it is official, because aside from a select few it's quite good! Linkin Park will make everyone put holes in their touch screens.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfDemon
Import ftw.

It's a totally new game over the Japanese original. =x

WolfDemon Aug 1, 2006 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey
It's a totally new game over the Japanese original. =x

So they took a quirky Japanese game, removed everything and replaced it with Blues Brothers knockoffs and shitty American music? That's localization for you, I guess. :/

Little Shithead Aug 1, 2006 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfDemon
So they took a quirky Japanese game, removed everything and replaced it with Blues Brothers knockoffs and shitty American music? That's localization for you, I guess. :/

And let me guess, you watch all your anime with the japanese audio track but it's "superior" to the english track.

Don't be such a tightass about this and just be glad they even decided to attempt a localization.

Elixir Aug 1, 2006 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfDemon
So they took a quirky Japanese game, removed everything and replaced it with Blues Brothers knockoffs and shitty American music? That's localization for you, I guess. :/

Who cares, Steriogram is a band from New Zealand. It's worth buying for Walkie Talkie Man alone, as Ouendan is for Kokoro Odoru/Shanghai Honey. I was skeptical of Hardware House but after listeing to it, I can totally see myself playing this on the hardest difficulty there is.

You can't expect great english tracks with these things.

WolfDemon Aug 1, 2006 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv Burger
And let me guess, you watch all your anime with the japanese audio track but it's "superior" to the english track.

No, if I own the DVD, I'll usually watch the dub. I'm just really disappointed by this song list. Linkin Park? Ricky Martin? Serioiusly. This is almost as bad as our console versions of DDR.

They didn't change a thing with the Katamari games or any of the other quirky games like that when they brought them over, and that's what made them great. Would Katamari Damacy have been as good with shit like Savage Garden or The Offspring? I think not.

Little Shithead Aug 1, 2006 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfDemon
They didn't change a thing with the Katamari games or any of the other quirky games like that when they brought them over, and that's what made them great. Would Katamari Damacy have been as good with shit like Savage Garden or The Offspring? I think not.

Too bad Katamari is 1) a different game, 2) by a different company 3) for a different console.

It has very little relevance to this except that it's japanese.

Infernal Monkey Aug 1, 2006 11:48 PM

I would have loved to roll shit up in CataScan MyAtari to Linkin Park's Crawling. Roll it up slowly, oh yeah, that's it. Pelvic thrusts and all that while playing. It'd be the best interactive video computer game ever developed.

Anyway I guess Nintendo figured everyone who wanted the original would import anyway, which they did.

JazzFlight Aug 2, 2006 12:46 AM

Guys, I'm sure that Japanese teenagers (at least, the very few that actually bought Ouendan in Japan) hated some of the songs for being too mainstream, too.

Just because it's in Japanese doesn't mean that the native population isn't as embarrassed to listen to it as you are when Britney Spears or some shit emo band plays.

surasshu Aug 2, 2006 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Guys, I'm sure that Japanese teenagers (at least, the very few that actually bought Ouendan in Japan) hated some of the songs for being too mainstream, too.

Hahaha this is so true! I mean, look at the damn soundtrack, it has one or two obscureish songs (The Yellow Monkey, The Blue Hearts... Hmm, colourful names. A theme!), but Kishi-dan? That's a boy band! Morning Musume?! Girl group, a washed out one at that!

This really isn't a bad playlist, so far.

FatsDomino Aug 2, 2006 08:06 AM

Yeah, seriously guys. Go listen to Hardware Store. It's one of Weird Al's best original songs and totally works and the stage is going to be just incredible I'm sure. The inclusion of this has made this game an instant buy.

Listen to it now!


And even if you don't like some of the songs there's no denying that they'll make great stages. It would be great if they could insert some Hard Gay into the stage for Livin' la Vida Loca or cheering some emo kid to cut himself for Linkin Park. I'm sure anything they come up with for the stages will be gold but most important is Hardware Store. That'll be godly.

lazuli Aug 2, 2006 06:29 PM

I've heard that list is completely made-up, and I'm pretty sure it is. It came around shortly after the Nintendo press release about its fall/winter lineup, probably because someone wanted to make it more believable. The problem is it wasn't a part of Nintendo's press release, and there's no official source for it that I've seen.

To my knowledge the only 2 confirmed songs are Steriogram - Walkie Talkie Man and Deep Purple - Highway Star, because they were at E3.

Besides, it lacks REM's "It's the End of the World as We Know It" which just HAS to be the last song on EBA. :P

edit:

"It's fake.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111826

Chris Kohler (known as Kobun Heat at GAF), respectable Western/Japanese games journalist and close-close buddy with iNiS stated it as such. Put it one way, I'd trust him way more than this speculative list that has just come out of nowhere."

So there you go. I actually would've liked Sweet Child O Mine, but the rest is "meh" anyway. I'm pretty happy it's fake.

FatsDomino Aug 2, 2006 06:39 PM

I will be very disappointed if that's true and "Hardware Store" isn't in the game. :mad:

surasshu Aug 2, 2006 06:48 PM

Well, I couldn't care less about the other tracks (although I would love "Go With The Flow"), but HARDWARE STORE. It better be true, they got me all excited about it now! :(

Elixir Aug 3, 2006 04:53 PM

I've been researching the song list, and everywhere I've looked, this song list has been reported as fake. So I'll remove it. I'll still buy it based on two things: 1) It has Ouendan's engine and 2) It has Walkie Talkie Man.

It's a shame, somewhat. The opportunity of them fucking up and dishing out a worse song list is still open. But it's an even bigger shame that some certain people can't enjoy a game based solely on it's song list. In that case, Amplitude shouldn't be played. Which is just wrong.

Unfortunately, Hardware Store won't be playable after all.

surasshu Aug 3, 2006 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir
Unfortunately, Hardware Store won't be playable after all.

:(

I guess I'll just listen to it over and over. And cry.

Infernal Monkey Aug 26, 2006 10:11 AM

Haaay guys, no track list yet, but new screens go!

http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...hots/eba/1.jpg http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...hots/eba/7.jpg http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...ots/eba/10.jpg

http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...hots/eba/4.jpg http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...hots/eba/2.jpg http://britishgaming.co.uk/wp-conten...hots/eba/6.jpg
Some more on the internet.

Tortalius Aug 26, 2006 05:15 PM

...not sure what to make of those, but they do look interesting...

Infernal Monkey Oct 16, 2006 02:34 AM

Tracklist has been revealed for lol, 19 songs all up.

Quote:

# Walkie Talkie Man - Steriogram
# ABC - Jackson Five
# Sk8er Boi - Avril Lavigne
# I Was Born to Love You - Queen
# Rock This Town - Stray Cats
# Highway Star - Deep Purple
# Y.M.C.A. - Village People
# September - Earth, Wind and Fire
# Canned Heat - Jamiroquai
# Material Girl - Madonna
# La La - Ashlee Simpson
# You're the Inspiration - Chicago
# Survivor - Destiny's Child
# Without a Fight - Hoobastank
# Believe - Cher
# Let's Dance - David Bowie
# Jumpin Jack Flash - Rolling Stones
# Makes No Difference - Sum 41
# The Anthem - Good Charlotte
Blinking equals pure cancer! But YMCA and ABC should be hilarity.

FatsDomino Oct 16, 2006 02:52 AM

Well I believe in life after love. I'll still be getting this game. :)

However I still wish Hardware Store was in it. :(

Elixir Oct 16, 2006 03:07 AM

Aw man, that's fucking poor. I was really looking foward to this game, too. But really, there's only a couple of songs I'd be interested in. YMCA is one of them.

# Sk8er Boi - Avril Lavigne
# Y.M.C.A. - Village People
# Material Girl - Madonna
# La La - Ashlee Simpson
# Without a Fight - Hoobastank
# Believe - Cher
# Makes No Difference - Sum 41
# The Anthem - Good Charlotte

SUM 41. GOOD CHARLOTTE. ASHLEE SIMPSON. MADONNA. CHER. COULD THIS GET ANY WORSE?

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7...titled2oq7.jpg

Oh hell no.

Technophile Oct 16, 2006 04:51 PM

Why the fuck are Ashlee Simpson, Avril, Sum 41, Destiny's Child and Good Charlotte shitting all over this game?

This is why I wish music games would just have their own original songs rather than borrow what's out on the radio.

I think I'll just stick to the import version now.


Cher can stay though. :tpg:

Rockgamer Oct 16, 2006 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Technophile
This is why I wish music games would just have their own original songs rather than borrow what's out on the radio.

Truth. The sad thing is, I don't even think the majority of this shit is on the radio anymore (though it was like 2-20 years ago).

About the only thing that can save this game now is the gameplay, which I would imagine they couldn't actually manage to screw up.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Oct 16, 2006 05:48 PM

To offer a theory, maybe those girlish tracks are for a female-centric story mode. Didn't the original Ouendan have female cheerleaders as the leads in Hard mode?

Iwata Oct 16, 2006 06:47 PM

The list doesn't seem all that different from the japanese one in the sense that it is just a bunch of mainstream crap.

Most of you hate the soundtrack for Elite beat agents, and the same can be said for most japanese people in regards to ouendan.

I'm currently livin in japan and the only songs my friends can tolerate if any of us play ouendan is " Linda Linda ".

Buizel Oct 17, 2006 12:34 AM

If that's the case then Nintendo should had sold Ouendan in North America and Agents in Japan. XP (no really, I WOULD like that)

Elixir Oct 17, 2006 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCN401
If that's the case then Nintendo should had sold Ouendan in North America and Agents in Japan. XP (no really, I WOULD like that)

That would seriously work. I mean, it worked for Katamari Damacy, so I don't see why not.

Though on second thought, the EBA list isn't so bad. Even Ouendan had songs I disliked (egyptian level specifically) and I'm a huge weeaboo. I just don't understand how they find Survivor a fitting song for this game.

FatsDomino Oct 17, 2006 12:55 AM

I just wonder which one of these is going to be the final level song that you'll be hearing over and over as you fail.

Tama8-chan Oct 19, 2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit
I just wonder which one of these is going to be the final level song that you'll be hearing over and over as you fail.

They haven't revealed it yet, I don't think.

But I have a very strong hunch that it will be
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time

You know it makes sense :tpg::tpg:

Sarmoti Oct 19, 2006 03:16 PM

Aren't the songs in the game covers? The videos that they have on IGN with the songs Highway Star and Walkie Talkie Man have completely different singers(The Steriogram song actually sounds better).

It's not the songs so much as the singers I don't like. Most(excluding Deep Purple and anything before the 90's) of the almost-decent written songs are ruined by the singers inability to sing them.

Edit:And it was reported somewhere that the final song hasn't been announced yet.

FatsDomino Oct 19, 2006 05:44 PM

Fucking better be Hardware Store. :mad:

Toma Oct 19, 2006 06:00 PM

Though a lot of this list is not so good, I'm really looking forward to playing "Rock This Town" and "Canned Heat".

Agreed about Hardware Store. That would be the perfect Ouendan song.

Tama8-chan Oct 19, 2006 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarmoti
Aren't the songs in the game covers?

Yeah they would be. The songs in Ouendan sounded so close to the real ones (aside from a few obvious ones) that I thought that they WERE the real ones.

As long as the covers sound close I have no problems.

BurningRanger Oct 20, 2006 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit
Fucking better be Hardware Store. :mad:

I can't waaait, no, I can't waiiit; when are they gonna open up that doorrr

I could see it right now! Someone goes in for their job interview at the new Hardware Store opening up on the other side of town, which is about to get hit by a giant meteor!

IT'S GENIUS NINTENDO

Sarmoti Oct 31, 2006 11:19 PM

IGN Updates with more videos.

YMCA is freaking awesome! Seeing them do the YMCA poses instantly brung tears to my eyes, it was so freaking COOL!!.

And after listening to all of the songs featured in this game, I only found 5 songs that I can't stand(Destiny's Child, Lavigne, Simpson, Madonna and Cher) opposed to the whole track list for Ouendan.

Next friday can't get here soon enough.

Elixir Nov 1, 2006 08:00 PM

IGN rating:

9.5

After them giving God Hand a low score, Touch Detective a low score, and now EBA with it's questionable tracklist a ridiculous 9.5, I'm never going to visit IGN again. Not that I made a habit of doing this, but what the hell.

I should've learned when they gave Jade Empire a score of what, 9.9 or something? Yeah.

Sarmoti Nov 1, 2006 09:15 PM

The track list isn't nearly as horrible as the crud that Ouendan had coursing through its veins, yet people still complain. Sure EBA has Average Lavigne, Destiny's Child and a Ashley Simpson on its track list, but those three songs are minor nuisances when you have artists like David Bowie, Deep Purple, Queen and Rolling Stones.

It's sickening.

Edit:
The guy pretty much speaks for everyone when it comes to EBA and OTO!.

For the lazy:
Spoiler:
Until I bought a copy and looked at the actual box, I didn't realize that Elite Beat Agents had been branded as a Touch Generations title. (You know, Nintendo's "Hey kids, give this to grandma" label.) But it's totally fitting and, more importantly, absolutely vindicates my insightful punditry, i.e. making fun of the people who've freaked out about the changes from the Japanese version.

Of course, it's always great fun to mock the easily-offended sensibilities of super-hardcore Pocky-munching DDR-stepping yaoi-drawing faux-Japanophiles. (You know, the ones who are only interested in foreign culture to the extent that it intersects anime and whose frequently-employed Japanese vocabulary consists of "kawaii," "sugoi" and "baka.") But the freaked-out backlash against Elite Beat Agents has been a particularly savory chestnut to roast thanks entirely to its utter, preposterous stupidity.

Their logic, such as it is, goes like this: Ossu! Tatakae! Ouendan! was an amazing game, but its appeal was predicated solely upon all the licensed J-pop music. The humor, the gameplay, the clever comic-style scenarios were, to hear them tell it, totally immaterial. Therefore its English version -- Elite Beat Agents -- is going to be awful due to the fact that the Japanese music has been discarded in favor of songs accessible and familiar to Americans.

Never mind that it's really an entirely new game, with all new scenarios to match the new tunes. Never mind that the game could never have come to the U.S. with its original music intact, because what publisher would pay to license music that only the tiniest slice of American gamers would recognize? Maybe therein lies the problem -- gamers have a terrible time dealing with the notion that their clique, clan or cult isn't the first consideration in their favorite company's every business decision. The cliquier and clannier they are, the harder it is for them to accept this reality. And licensing Chicago and Cher for EBA sends a very clear message to the J-tards: you are not our core audience.

And good thing, too. EBA may just be the most accessible game on the DS, which is really saying something. The gameplay is simple, the scenarios are genuinely funny, and the music works well. Yeah, all of it. The clever thing about licensing familiar U.S.-charting pop is that your mom/dad/sister/grandma is going to hear David Bowie or the Village People blasting from your DS and be curious about it. And then he/she will try it. And be hooked. And suddenly, BAM, new gaming fan. Well, maybe it won't be quite so simple as that, but EBA has more potential to turn people onto gaming than just about anything else I can think of, and the fact that Nintendo recognizes this bodes well for their future, I think.

So anyway, buy EBA when it ships next week. If I'm not mistaken, it's the highest-scoring title I've reviewed all year. (Not that numbers mean anything, but you get the idea.) And you haters can go choke on a Pocky. Hopefully one of the almond-encrusted ones -- they look really painful.

SuperDK Nov 2, 2006 11:16 AM

Actually, I watched the September vid, and it looks really fun. I totally can't wait. Thank goodness they are *probably* playing hard in those vids, because it looks a lot more interesting like that.

nazpyro Nov 2, 2006 12:10 PM

I'm cised for this game's release. Other than a minimal amount of Donkey Konga, I haven't played any music/rhythm game for over a year now; and the last title of the genre I did play was: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan!, which was a ridiculous amount of fun. Just have to make sure I use earphones when I play it in public. Some of those "artists"... Destiny's Child, Good Charlotte, Ashlee Simpson. :(

Sarmoti Nov 2, 2006 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperDK
Actually, I watched the September vid, and it looks really fun. I totally can't wait. Thank goodness they are *probably* playing hard in those vids, because it looks a lot more interesting like that.

It's hard mode. Easy has Agent Spin(sports headphones) as the leader, normal has Agent J and Insane has the Elite Beat Divas.

NovaX Nov 3, 2006 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir
IGN rating:

9.5

After them giving God Hand a low score, Touch Detective a low score, and now EBA with it's questionable tracklist a ridiculous 9.5, I'm never going to visit IGN again. Not that I made a habit of doing this, but what the hell.

I should've learned when they gave Jade Empire a score of what, 9.9 or something? Yeah.

You're complaining about a high score?! You really are something else.

Elixir Nov 3, 2006 10:25 PM

I like how this game's already been leaked into newsgroups already.

Downloading right now, I'll see how this thing turns out.

Edit: Ugh, how the hell is this thing 105MB.

Sarmoti Nov 3, 2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
Edit: Ugh, how the hell is this thing 105MB.

Well, taking the 19 CD quality songs(5 more than OTO!, which comes to 80-85 mbs) into consideration. This game(as iNiS stated) is superior to OTO in every way and judging from the videos, it's quite apparent, you also have the smoother, linked dance moves which would end up taking more space than what OTO had.

Anyway:Reviews for the game have been amazing! Nintendo Power gave it a 9.5. IGN giving it a 9.5 and now 1up.com giving a solid 9.

kensuke Nov 4, 2006 12:29 AM

Well, I've given it a shot and personally, I don't enjoy it compared to OTO.. At least with OTO, the cheerleading was part of the culture. With this one, you've just got random men showing up and dancing for no particular reason. I also find that Japanese voice actors are way more enthusiastic about their yelling than english voice actors are. Oh well, it's still a good attempt.. Not bad for a localisation of a crazy Japanese game.

Elixir Nov 4, 2006 01:29 AM

I've played it for a solid 2 hours and here's what I've managed to gather from playing it.

First of all, normal mode is really fucking weird if you've played Hard/Insane Ouendan. Weird as in, it's extremely slow moving. Every song you clear opens up 2 more stages.

Some songs, on the other hand, are really good. The christmas and nurse stages are really nice, and even The Anthem is pretty cool. Unfortunately this is countered by shit like David Bowie and Material Girl (which happens to remind me of Paris Hilton and Nicole) and that song from the director's level, which sounds and feels out of tune and pretty lame.

I'm sure when I get to hard mode it'll become better. The comic style is still the same, which is nice. The only problem with the stories is that some of them are so farfetched it's like they just threw anything together to add songs.

But yeah, I'll play around with it later tonight. My neck hurts like hell from being in the same position for such a long period of time while playing this. I'll let you know what the final song is.

Also yeah, I agree with kensuke. I wouldn't give this game a score over Ouendan, to be honest. Personally I enjoyed Ouendan more, but this is still a pretty solid game. Still, giving it a 9.5 is ridiculous.

kensuke Nov 4, 2006 04:07 AM

I've finished the game now, and some of the gameplay mechanics have been vastly improved in this one. I think I'm just biased towards Ouendan because I liked the j-rock and mood better, but this game is genuinely good. Being able to skip straight to the 3-2-1 saves so much time (Ready Steady Go on hard mode anyone?)

EDIT - Ok, I just checked the song list and I did not hear ABC - Jackson 5 anywhere in the game.. Any idea how to unlock it?

Toma Nov 4, 2006 01:29 PM

Well, I got the ROM, and...it's not compatible with G6 Lite, I guess. So much for being a cheapass :p

But lucky for me, I was planning to buy it anyway. I'm glad it has been getting good reviews, and that it has made improvements in some ways over Ouendan. Can't wait until I have a few bucks so I can go get it.

Torte Nov 4, 2006 04:53 PM

The score of 9.5 was to cater for the average 'touch-gen' gamer. For those who have played Ouendan, read another review, or just don't and judge for yourself if it's better or not.

I myself see a lot of improvements, as Kensuke mentioned, cutting straight to the chase is a very good thing, as is the multiplayer and unlockables presentation-wise. The comic panels seem to drag on for some, but then once you've seen them, you'll proobably skip them subsequently. They are corny, but in-game work rather well still. Ouendan -> Healp! and "Agents are.. Go!!" are really annoying though. The beats actually seem weak with less cymbal crash and more tinny thumps, and the song selection ain't that great (after all the songs make this game); strangely the oldies fare better imo. But the Anthem rocked nonetheless!

A good rhythm action game. It just doesn't have the freshness of its maker, and some copied aspects don't translate too well to English. Still solid fun, especially for those not in the know. But everything EBA does well, Ouendan did better, and it did it last year. 8/10 from me.

JazzFlight Nov 4, 2006 06:40 PM

Question (without spoiling which songs are used):

1. Is there another tear-jerker song / story like Over the Distance from Ouendan?

2. Is the final song kickass?

Sarmoti Nov 4, 2006 06:52 PM

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1. Is there another tear-jerker song / story like Over the Distance from Ouendan?
Oh is there ever.

SuperDK Nov 4, 2006 10:03 PM

I got this yesterday and I've already beaten it on all difficulties. Frickin' cool game. I don't even get annoyed by most of the songs. EBA==Ouendan. Seriously. I totally love the final stage though. Some of the scenarios are kinda weird though.

Elixir Nov 5, 2006 07:20 AM

he wuz a sk8r boi she sed c u l8r boi

he wuznt gud enuff 4 hur

Sooooooo I just finished Elite Beat Agents. The playlist is awful. AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL. To tell you just how awful it was, I am going to use text.

First level starts you out playing "Walkie Talkie Man" by Steriogram.

Okay, this song would be decent if THE LYRICS WERE BY THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL SINGER, but no. I've seen Steriogram in concert (they're a NZ band) and the were pretty good. This however, isn't. Normal mode is also extremely slow and runs at about half the pace of the song.

Second level's "Sk8r Boi" by Canada Gets Known for Something.

You have to PRESS the CIRCLES when she SAID see you LATER boy. Yeah this song doesn't even feel right, but it isn't half as bad as some of the others the game as to offer, so whatever. I'd much rather play this over something like David Bowie.

BUT WAIT, FUCK BOWIES. We have Madonna - Material Girl to faptap ourselves to. Awesome. Meanwhile the story of this song consists of two girls acting dumb (I'll just assume it's Paris and Nicole) on a deserted island. They bounce around and all the animals build them castles and bring them food just because of their looks.

The game opens up 1/2 levels every time you pass a level. Does it get better? HELL NO. Well actually kinda, but every awesome song is immediately shunned by one which isn't. You're going to be playing La La, Canned Heat, and You're The Inspiration over and over. Seriously, I'm not joking around. For some reason Destiny's Child - Survivor and Cher - Believe aren't in the single player mode. This is a good thing.

But there's a POSITIVE SIDE to this game. Ignoring the fact that there's only 3 songs I really enjoyed, the art style is exactly the same as Ouendan. Also, they've used sound effects from Ouendan in parts of the comic strips, which will mean nothing to anyone who hasn't played Ouendan, but I liked it.

The last song is pretty cool, as well. It took me 4-5 ties before I was able to beat it. Hard mode is shaping up to be pretty good as well. Cher - Believe is in hard mode only it seems, so I'm just guessing ABC and Survivor are also in hard or whatever comes after hard.

That's basically it. 3 good songs. Good comics. I doubt this has as much replay value as Ouendan did, and overall I still prefer it over this, but I definitely wouldn't give it a 9.5 like IGN did. A solid 7.5 would be better, I guess.

Chaotic Nov 9, 2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
For some reason Destiny's Child - Survivor and Cher - Believe aren't in the single player mode. This is a good thing.

Too bad they are. The storyline ain't bad, but they could've chosen better songs. >_<

After playing this for a night straight, I finally managed to beat Crusin' mode. Now i'm on Sweatin' and struggling on the same damn song that gave me problems in Crusin' mode. T_T

I <3 I Was Born To Love You. That song can burn in hell.

I guess out of all the songs, You're The Inspiration is my favorite. Don't ask. I just like the damn song.

The Final Stage gave me so many problems, it's not even funny. It probably took me 20+ plays to finall beat it.

UGH. I STILL HAVE TO BEAT SWEATIN' SO I COULD UNLOCK KHAN. THEN MY LIFE WILL BE SET.

JazzFlight Nov 9, 2006 07:10 PM

Unlike most people, I like the "sad song" stage from Ouendan better than EBA. EBA's seemed a little TOO sappy, as if they were just trying to top the first game instead of crafting a new scenario.
Spoiler:
Oh look, another dead guy. But this time, it's a dad, and he's got a sad little girl. It wasn't as original as making it about some other type of tragedy. The song was a bit too cliche nowadays, too.

However, this game is on the whole a great sequel. I love the "skip intro" feature, it really speeds up the playthroughs. The final stage(s) are incredible, it really got me emotionally involved with the songs. It completely topped RSG from Ouendan.

Elixir Nov 9, 2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic
Too bad they are.

Perhaps you'd like to go back and actually read what I said.

They aren't in single player on normal mode.

JazzFlight Nov 9, 2006 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elixir
Perhaps you'd like to go back and actually read what I said.

They aren't in single player on normal mode.

Yeah they are, you just need to unlock them by upping your rank. Then you can play them in all difficulties.

Chaotic Nov 10, 2006 08:46 PM

Is it just me or is Material Girl and Canned Heat on Sweatin' incredibly difficult?

I can't get past the first part in Material Girl when they send a bunch of 14-chains on you. I dunno why.

SuperDK Nov 13, 2006 12:16 PM

You're the Inspiration sounds kinda funny to me. I dunno why but it does.

But yeah, Canned Heat is awesome and I love playing that stage. The beats are confusing at first but then you'll figure it out. There are a lot of quick double taps.

About the bonus songs: If you get the bonus songs, then you WILL have to complete them in the later difficulties, making it somewhat part of the normal game. Also, if you complete Crusin' and then go back to Breezin', then you have to complete every bonus song you unlocked.

And I agree with everything Jazz said about the ending, and the tragedy stage. The ending totally rocks though.

Chaotic Nov 13, 2006 07:12 PM

They're all done by different artists anyway... Like in The Anthem where you hear the guy singing crack his voice a little singing "Don't wanna be just~ like you." in the chorus.

But now I can't beat Jumpin' Jack Flash on Sweatin'. Getting 50s SERIOUSLY does NOT save me now... I hate how they expect you to perfect the whole song. Their standards got too high.

Sarmoti Nov 14, 2006 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Chaotic
They're all done by different artists anyway... Like in The Anthem where you hear the guy singing crack his voice a little singing "Don't wanna be just~ like you." in the chorus.

But now I can't beat Jumpin' Jack Flash on Sweatin'. Getting 50s SERIOUSLY does NOT save me now... I hate how they expect you to perfect the whole song. Their standards got too high.

And yet, it has been done on Hard Rock mode already.

SuperDK Nov 14, 2006 11:07 AM

Yeah, I know that they're covers. Especially JJF, because the original version is pretty slow compared to this one. In my opinion, this version of The Anthem sounds better than the original.

On another note, I've gotten only 4 100's on Hard Rock JJF. I got 3 of them at the end. ;_;

My hand shakin' so bad.

BurningRanger Nov 14, 2006 01:30 PM

I got the game last night. I like it so far. I'm only on Cruisin' and I'm up to the
Spoiler:
second half of the level where they're turning people into stone.
Not quite sure how far that puts me, but I think the song selection is pretty good, most of the songs are catchy and work well with the game. I hardly think the pessimism about the game is warranted.

Chaotic Nov 14, 2006 09:36 PM

And BR, pretty damn far.

Anyway, I still haven't had any luck with beating JJF on Sweatin'. Mostly after the 2nd checkpoint in the songs where you get all those 14-hit runs. Those seriously piss me off, and it still does. T_T

nazpyro Nov 21, 2006 09:11 PM

Yay! So I cleared all the songs on all difficulties today. Got Commander Kahn leading the Elite Beat Divas... word. O_o

So, I'm done... unless I wanna score higher. Back to Phoenix Wright! :p

Tortalius Nov 23, 2006 10:14 PM

Go for some S ranks. that's my plan now

BurningRanger Nov 24, 2006 01:53 PM

I just unlocked Hard Rock mode. I'm pretty sure I'm not even going to play that, it's just silly how hard it is.

I could deal with the reduced marker size. I could deal with it if they just gave every song rhythms on par with Jumpin Jack Flash in difficulty. I could deal with those things, but I can't deal with the fact that they made every marker show up approximately 1 second before you have to hit it.

Toma Nov 25, 2006 02:14 AM

I got my paycheck today and decided to finally get this one. Don't know what to say, really. The system remains intact, which is nice. The soundtrack isn't exactly comprised of my favorite songs, but neither is Ouendan's, so whatever. My biggest complaint, having played through Normal and Hard mode, is that the hits are really oddly placed in many songs. It just seems really unnatural the way some of them are syncopated, Canned Heat and Without a Fight coming immediately to mind. It seems like a lot of western music is more loose in its timing than J-Rock, which must make it harder to sync it up properly.

Jumpin' Jack Flash, however, makes up for any deficiency the game might have, as it's not only an awesome song (and a good cover, at that), but it has some of the best patterns in either game. There some other good ones like September, YTI, Rock This Town (yay, they used the Brian Setzer Orchestra version, I love that arrangement), Let's Dance...maybe some others. I'd say the good and bad songs are pretty evenly matched up.


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