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Nintendo Press Conference (discussion and live stream)
Alright the big event we've waited 2 years for is finally here. Nintendo will be unleashing the big guns and hopefully it'll deliver that revolution it promised with Wii. I do hope we'll all be saying "wow" and I do hope Reggie makes some comments on Sony's conference (in case he doesn't please click here). Don't forget we also have Zelda and the DS and any other surprises to look forward to.
So here's what's going to happen. 9:30 AM PST and 12:30 EST you can tune in for free to Gamespot's live feed which will undoubtedly be a little behind schedule but be ready to watch it then just in case it is on time. http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/738...rbounce9wn.gif http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/139...alogfun0yg.gif Again just like last time, be warned that if you fag this thread up like the former Revolution threads then you will be banned from this thread and perhaps for a week or two from Mario's Warp Room or all of the gaming forums. I will stomp out any childish behavior just like I did in the PS3 Press Conference thread. So basically behave in this thread or else. This is the Nintendo Press Conference thread for discussion of all things related and/or occurring in said conference. The main focus will of course be Wii but discussion of any surprises or DS or Zelda or anything else covered are fair game in here too. I may close this thread and open a purely Nintendo Wii (or just Wii - I forget if it's officially just called Wii) thread a day or so after the conference is over. It too will have the same rules as this one. Anything unrelated either has a thread already (DS and Zelda) or will be created if it doesn't fall into either and has enough concrete details. Link to prior Revolution/Wii thread for time piecing. Enjoy the Nintendo Press Conference and what not and please, play nice. http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/994...ncewave5fo.gifhttp://img74.imageshack.us/img74/994...ncewave5fo.gifhttp://img74.imageshack.us/img74/994...ncewave5fo.gif |
Who else is gonna be hear to watch the show live?
I am and I pumped & hopeful for this conference. Don't let us down Nintendo. (judging from the Zelda: TP thread, I don't think they will...) |
I'll be here.~ So close. SO CLOSE. If there's no Pilotwings game, I'll cry. A secret manly tear.
Can't wait to see all the Iwata photos this years conference will spawn! |
Kid Icarus!!!
Actually, I've never played the game, but what better way to introduce him to me by giving the guy a "New" generation facelift! |
I'll be watching it live, barely. I'll have to juggle work as I watch. Kinna wish it wasn't so early but I'm selfish and cranky. (lol @ getting up at 6am to be up for this ; ; )
I just hope Nintendo doesn't let people down. Things look good so far. Please dont screw it up. |
I didn't even know this was going on today, but I figure if I'm home sick doing nothing I might as well. It's pretty much a defining moment for Nintendo, because a sloppy presentation right after the PS3's could, well.
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As far as I know, the conference takes place at 9 PM where I'm living, so sure I'm watching it. (I saw it last year, and that made me laugh.)
Anyways, it'll be interesting to see what they can pull off. If oly they are hiding Reggie a bit like last year. |
Nintendo has taken such a huge risk with Wii that they really can not mess up either today or when Wii is finally released.
If they do, then 5 years from now I'm really going to enjoy playing Mario games on the PS3 much like I enjoy playing Sega games on the Gamecube. |
50 minutes left, as of now.
I'll be watching the live feed at EDIT: beaten by Acer |
I'm surprised GameSpot's stream has already started. I mean, it's just a logo and some doof doof, but hey. HEY HEY. Navi confirmed for Wii.
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Thanks for giving up almost the same link as in the first post.
I'll be watching this I guess. How long will it run? edit: the stream has SUPAR KEWL musics. |
I'm here too. Damn, I'm so eager to see what Nintendo has to offer. I want to see the Zelda for Wii game they are talking about (not Twilight Princess with Wii compatibility, but a brand new Zelda for Wii) and some DS titles. Also, I believe there is a "surprise" they have yet to reveal... so yeah, I'm expecting a pretty interesting conference. :)
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My first live-feed viewing. Awww....
Thank god I'm in Uni now. I have class at 1pm tomorrow!!! Gives me the perfect excuse to stay up to 3am ^_^. |
Haha yay for testing signal and Nintendo logo smashed together accompanied by muzacks! ='D
I'm gonna go out and grab some quick lunch before this thing starts. Be back in a bit guyz. |
ZOMG waited one year for this damn day.
Wiiva la Revolution!!! Zelda TP, DS games, Wii info and some more name-taking and ass-kicking. |
I can't wait! This may be Nintendo's chance to go back to the SNES glory days.
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Seeing how underwhelming the Sony conference was, I think there's a chance I might convert to fanboyism!!!
Seriously, screw this being unbiased gamer thing. If Nintendo steal the show and then dominate the market by the end of next year then I'll go fanboy (like back in the SNES days). WIIII!!!! |
Meeting got out in good time for me to sit here and enjoy the revolution with you guys. FUCKING PUMPED!!
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ign seems pretty set that the nunchuck DOES have tilt but i don't know if that's the secret. |
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I thought the gyroscopic technology dealt with that. |
I'm here as well, and although I'm seriously pumped for this, Sony's craptastic showing has given me not only hope for Wii, but also a fear that they might fuck up just as badly. Either way, should be interesting.
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I'm anxiously anticipating the feed, as well.
Can't wait to see what peculiar surprises Nintendo is going to demonstrate today. I bet they have quite a lot of winning cards up their sleeve. |
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Reckon Microsoft will have a good presentation? Yeh, they've got less elements of surprise now but you never know...
They were basically laughing manically after Sony's conference. |
I hurried out of my final to come home....BAITED BREATH!
Double Post: I seriously thought last night: What does Reggie do to prep for this? Does he sit in his room and play SNES? Does he take cardboard cutouts of Master Chief and Snake and rip their groins out? Maybe they have a Wii Rave Party! |
LOL, I can see chaofan posting every second post for the next 4 pages.
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Give me news on Mario 128!!! What ever happened to the hype for that game?
EDIT: Damn straight NovaX. First time watching live-feed :biggrin: |
All I want to see is Reggie enter the stage on a motorcycle tugging a PS3 behind it.
I couldnt care less about the Wii if I saw that :D |
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Nintendo's reaction should be interesting, if not a little obvious as well. - WraithTwo - |
What I anticipate the most is some in-depth information concerning launch titles for the Wii. Though I expect Twilight Princess footage to dominate the speech, once again.
Because, really, this game aims to be simply awesome. |
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Still, Wii seems to be the most entertaining of them all... |
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Plus there wasn't a fountain of games to drool over or have wet-dreams about. Or something like that ^_^. |
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Even if those were the "only" things wrong with the conference (and they basically were), that's more than enough. - WraithTwo - EDIT: As far as games, what's everyone looking forward to? Personally, MP3, Smash, and hopefully announced Metroid 5 and/or Smash for the DS. |
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That made my day! But yeah, if they could give a little of the old elbow at Sony, just for a second I'll be happy. What I'm waiting for is the price, release dates, the secret (which will probably be speakers on the Wiimote), Pilotwings 64 and many others. I just hope Miyamoto doesn't show up again with Link's sword and shield. God was that embarassing. |
Honestly, Nintendo can probably do no wrong after the shitshow last night with Sony. It doesn't help that the conference itself sucked, but NOBODY was into it in the audience. There was a laugh and golf clap when Ken pulled out the Dual Shock 3, and a deafening silence follwed by murmurs after the price.
The press hated it just as much as everyone else did. |
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Hang in there guys!!! (actually, this applies to me more. Gotta stay calm!!!)
Nay for Miyamoto in Zelda dress!!! Dude noooooooo!!! |
Sony's conference suffered from a serious lack of compelling innovations.
On the contrary, I hope Nintendo shows off its distinctive traits: good emphasis on the impact of the Wii system, concrete demonstrations of forthcoming games (like Nibris' Sadness, yet to be seen in any form), new surprises and relieving details on the price. |
I like the fact that Nintendo didn't really released footage or pictures for the games. At least, not much and some of it looked like beefed up GameCube graphics which was what they predicted.
So they won't pull 'Fake Footage' stuff like Sony and deceive millions. |
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Testing screen is gone. No more posts for me until after *i promise*!!!
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Edit: where is going to be a good place to get full resolution (640x480) direct feed footage of the games they'll show? Would Gametrailers.com have them? Streaming makes everything look like crap, after it's done I'll probably want to go through and grab videos of all the games that looked interesting. |
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No more color bars on the feed... Almost time!!
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http://revolution.ign.com/articles/705/705854p1.html
Hands on Red Steel impressions. Read. Now. - WraithTwo - |
im gonna watch! lookin at the nintendo logo, with the dance track goin
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Exactly. Nothing concrete has been released so far from a graphical point of view (except some pretty vague Red Steel screens, if I recall well).
I have yet to perceive the actual visual capabilities of the system. Not that it's essential, but some proper assurement of its quality would do no harm. |
It's 1 minute left, and I so need to take a shit right now.
G'damn. NOT NOW :( |
Damn, the Nintendo conference is starting just as I have to leave for the rest of the day. ;__;
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What is all the static in the background? >=O
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Start damn it!!
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Is that background noise (that constant "Blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaart") part of the song?
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Nup, the background buzz has been going forever.
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Yea, i think its part of the song
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Quick Prediction.....
I was just washing dishes for a half hour and during this time I had a revelation. What game was one of the biggest of last year that we have not heard a whisper about? Resident Evil. Oh, and if you remember, there was no RE yesterday at the Sony conference. Which means only two choices remain. 1) Capcom is in bed with the Xbox 360, or 2) Capcom is in bed with Nintendo's Wii..... Prediction = RE5 will be seen in the next hour |
Good, someone else noticed the static.
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Sony mentioned Resident Evil last night. |
I keep getting "Buffering" and then "Ready" and then "Stopped". Auuugh, work!
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It feels like the background noise is getting louder :(
At least the dance music choices are pretty good. It would be just AWFUL if you had to sit and wait with horrible music to boot. |
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Almost done downloading the trailer, getting ill, downloading, stress, anxiety.... x__x EDIT: WIII TIME!! |
It's 9:36 pst, why isn't this shit on yet? :( :( :(
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The background buzzzz is louder than the music. :(
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It started~~~~
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IT'S STARTING!!!!
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YEAAAH!
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OMG n/m
I mean to say, bout time. Damn. |
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yay !! it's starting!
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Yay! Here we go!
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Oh that looks pretty neat. Orchestra Hero anyone?
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LOL, this is dumb.
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One time is enough guys >=O I win ok?
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THAT THING IS AWESOME STUFF!! I <3 Wiimote!
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Controller to control a car <3
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Acer didn't change his name...why can he see and not me?
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Holy shit that sword wielding kicks ass.
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They're wasting no time with the gameplay footage. Looks pretty damn good!
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Nice, he's playing!
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Holy shit, that racing game looked fucking fantastic. =o
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That intro is the best ever.
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REGGGGGGIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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Oh YES! REGGIE!!!!!!!!!!:biggrin: :biggrin:
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Still can't connect, augh...
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MARIO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The new Mario game looks cool enough.
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OMG SPEAKER IN WIIMOTE HOW COOL
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PILOTWINGS!!!! METROID!!!!!!!!!
JESUS CHRIST THE AWESOMENESS DOESNT STOP! |
Graphics definitely aren't impressive though.
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Mario with magnetic boots? I'll buy that for 60 bucks if I had to!
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They said, they arent a power house machine.. so what? its the games
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I didn't think the controller would be that great. I think this proved me wrong. Alot of that looks really fun. Especially the sword/racing parts.
The graphics are not great, sure.. but playing it looks enjoyable. |
Ok, that presentation was fucking awesome. GO NINTENDO!
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I want that new Mario.
NOW. |
that was awesome. reggie talking is funny.. i like my left brain though.
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Hope they answer all those questions.
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Looks OK so far...to be honest I'm pretty disappointed that the racing demo showed the person using the controller sideways, I wonder if they fixed any of the kinks with it that I was worried about.
So lets see, I think we have a new Mario, Metroid Prime 3, Table Tennis and Tennis, some kind of conducting game...what else am I missing? Edit: no date? That's disappointing, I hate vague statements like "Fourth quarter 2006". |
Hmm, I wonder if you'd actually have to be great at tennis to play tennis at Wii...
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When he says "we" I don't know if he's saying "we" or "wii"
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bah date and price are still secrets
haha reggie thanked two members of this forum for being nice about "wii" :) |
Ooooooh no price!!
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"both of you"
AWESOME. Too bad there will be no price today though. |
No price?
How unfortunate. |
Holy shit, this is awesome, man. :'D
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Any way to download this press conference afterwards? Sadly, I'm not able to watch those live streams. Seems like my version of the Windows Media Player isn't up to date and I can't download a newer version. Sup 98.
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FIRE EMBLEM !!!
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Why is the person in the MP3 demo still using lock-on? Shouldn't the controller make that a bit unneccissary?
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Super Mario Galaxy... a logical step up from World I suppose!
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THEY SHOWED PANGYA :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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ZELDA AT LAUNCH. GOOOD LORD!!!!
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NO SUPER SMASH BROS?!
WHY GOD WHY. |
Zelda on launch day of the Wii.
That's promising for the system. |
WOOHOO ! I WANT IT NOW WITH ALL THAT BIG LINEUP
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Zelda on Launch!!
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I.e. no surprise ;) |
it still better be for the cube, or ill be very disappointed in Nintendo
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Wow, game looks good!
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controller DOES have a speaker. weird.
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Lol, Rumble, SPeaker + Motion Detection! Crazy!
Double Post: Bit of lag. |
BYOB.
Except for Reggie. He has pure vodka coursing through his veins all the time. |
thank god
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also apparently two different versions for gc and wii? :(
edit: YESSSS METROID PRIME 3 |
Hm... Wii version and GC version?
Hmm... Not too impressed with that idea. |
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Super mario galaxy. Better name than sunshine =p
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Not everyone can afford a console at launch.. im glad i can get to play it on my cube.
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sweet, new franchises. that third one looked cool (crisis or whatever)
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Disaster sounds interesting...hope they show more of the game later on
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Excite Truck looks AWESOME. I literally cannot wait to get my hands on this one.
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I love how he's trying to make Sponge bob interesting:P
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YES! Red Steel!!!!
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Stupid french, I could have done the presentation myself :P
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So far, Nintendo's been amazing. The games don't look THAT bad (FFCC looks awesome) and the gameplay is just excelent. I just want too see Smash to be completely happy. :)
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maybe SSB will be the finale :D
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So I'm guessing Zelda is coming out on the same day that the Wii is?
Both versions? |
Red Steel looks fucking awesome. Gameplay wise and graphically it's real impressive.
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Just to know, how long is the conference supposed to be exactly?
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Red Steel demo > Zelda demo.
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There were rummors that it'll last around 2 hours... @@
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Sony's conference was 2 hours long I think
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wow, the lighting through the area he shot was great
Double Post: also, cool that you can block |
Square NEEDS to revive Bushido Blade. That game would be absolutely incredible for the Wii.
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WOO GEORGE HARRISON!
WOOOOOOOOO! |
yeah they said that the zelda demo was a part of a toned-down dungeon with piss-easy enemies, so i'd say the actual game is better
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Hmm, Red Steel looked kinda disappointing...the aiming and turning seemed really funky, like the person had a lot of trouble just rotating his character. And the sword combat looks really shallow, it doesn't look like the sword actually follows the controller: you just flick it a direction and it slashes from there. Blocking even looks the same as Oblivion's. I was hoping for a full sword duel where you use correct positioning and precision moves...in the demo the enemy acted like you hit his left side when you slashed at him from the right! I guess I'll have to play it myself and see how it works out.
It did however look pretty good (well, as good as it could on the low quality stream I'm watching, anyway). |
I bought Brain Age yesterday!
:rock: I didn't know there was going to be Diddy Kong Racing, StarFox, or Yoshi's Island DS Games. =o |
Yoshis Island 2? Yes please!
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NICE! YOSHI'S ISLAND, STAR FOX, AND DIDDY KONG!! AMAZING!
FF3 looks GREAT! |
gajh @HGTH
which one is it!? NES ff3 or SNES?!?!??! |
YOSHI'S ISLAND 2.
This is TOO DAMN GOOD. |
FF3 for the DS... I don't like the idea..
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NES FF3! The only one not available in the US
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CRAP! Stupid thing messed up and I had to reconnect. What did I miss that was related to Star Fox?
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sweet
i mean, i've already beaten it, but still cool (ff3) |
Star Fox DS... 3D game on top screen, and it says you control your flight path with the touch screen.
Yoshis Island 2 - 2-screened gameplay! |
The DS part is making me sleepy. Also, Zelda looks cool.
Red Steel's shooting looks nice, but the swords are severely lacking. |
Nintendo really is demonstrating that it's all about the games for the future of the company.
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Lacking compared to WHAT?
Give it some time to develop! |
The new DS titles look great!
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I guess it's IWATA TIME.
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Oh my God, Yoshi's Island 2. <3 <3 And Iwata made a confusing entrance, which is awesome, because he's Iwata and it's IWATA TIME.
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haha i like how he paused with the wii controller to have pictures taken :)
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eat ees confor-table.... *waits applause*.........................
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OMG did I see an American version of what looked like Osu???
SOLD |
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ah, the power/home button... guessing here.
edit: so i guess when you push home, the system enters "standby" and when you push it again, you start where you left off.... excellent.... |
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Ugh, ANOTHER console that goes into "standby mode". Don't these things have real power buttons anymore?!?
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I like the standby mode idea. I'm sick of sitting through intro screens for all my systems. Nintendo is definitely on the right track with this.
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Interesting 24 hour idea. I wonder how large is the hard drive for all this "new content"?
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WiiSports sounds sweet. Simple titles will be a nice way to get adjusted to the system for newbies.
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*CANNOT UNDERSTAND IWATA*
Guess I'll wait for transcript tomorrow |
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standby mode = instant action where you left off?
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I'm not a fan of devices using standby. When I want something off I want it fully off. Especially out here in cali with the high risks of brown/black outs and the surges that come along with it.
Electricity is so expensive too. I dont want things constantly sucking power. =/ |
Hahah! Cool contest!
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Nobody understood that joke.
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That kid looks PISS SCARED. Miyamoto is a tiny bastard.
Can't say I don't envy that kid though. Playing on the Wii for the first time with the Nintendo gods? Good LORD. |
Shit! Gamespot died on me;_;What is this madness?
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Reggie is going to destroy the Kodak Theater if he loses.
That looks like so much fun though... It really looks like a good time. |
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Hmm, the 100k stream seems to be having some problems, if anyone is having issues switch over to 300k if you can.
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me too but I chose 300k and it works now.
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God damnit. I was doing fine till the tennis presentation with Miyamoto, the feed just died on me and isn't connecting now. I'm not even going to try it anymore, so sick of that advert. I'll just download the whole show later and watch the rest.
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That tennis game looks fucking awesomeeeeeeeee!!!
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Damn I envy that guy. OMFG this show was great!
Err, the price? Did I miss something? |
............... mine just died. Well it's over anyway.
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NO SMASH BROTHERS?? RAARRRR!!
Other than that, I'm quite impressed! |
Ah. yes. Brilliant:) What did I miss?
The end of the show;_; |
That's it ???...... I was expecting more
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So it's over... and I'm amazed. Nintendo's done it again. I <3 Wii. It trully seems like the most promising console for this next generation.
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Brilliant, but could've said and done more.
That said, I'm going to sleep guys. Bloody 3.41am over here. |
Doh! It's over! Haha.
Ahh well, I guess it wasn't bad, but didn't have nearly as much as I hoped for. In fact, the "surprises" were pretty lame to be honest...and I'm actually a bit worried about the controller now because it seems like it didn't work nearly as well as I thought it would. And they still didn't give a price or date...not a good sign. Actually, I was more excited about the announcement of a Star Fox DS more than anything. |
Did you guys see Fire Emblem???!!
Heck yes! I'm sold. And it looks like I'll be buying a Wii to play Zelda this holiday season! |
A couple more games would have been nice, but what was presented was pretty great.
I'm just worried that some games will simply get too complicated for even the expert gamer. |
Did I miss anything in the 20 minutes after the Zelda demo began? I had to help someone with her internet connection.
What's the last big Wii secret? |
Overall, a solid showing by Nintendo, nothing too fancy, but I think they got their point across.
I would've liked a price & availability date, and of course Smash Brothers, but I think they've learned from Sony's mistake yesterday. They didn't show everything, but just enough to keep people interested and that they're very much into competing against the big guns. |
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Hmmm, no price or launch date mentioned. AND DID I SEE A GLIMPSE OF A PILOTWINGS GAME GUYS? I SAW SOMETHING. LIKE PILOTWINGS. Did I see Pilotwings? ;__;
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Good freaking lord in all that is called heaven!
Sony is going down. Nintendo is ON THE TRACK! |
Only things I wished to have seen were the Virtual Console and the price. Other than that, a great conference. No beating around the bush, no bullshit.
I expect that some kinks still need to be worked out of the controller, so, I would wait until we get hands-on impressions before we give judgement. It looks real solid though. |
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Yeah I was hoping for something a bit more surprising too. Speaker and WiFi Connect 24 were cool but not huge announcements. Wiimote didn't work well?! Did you see that one guy pickup and start playing Tennis well in like 1 min? |
You saw Pilotwings, Infernal. Believe it. :)
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Infernal Monkey: They confirmed Starfox for DS, dunno about pilotwings though :O
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Oh, and lawl no price or release date or Smash Brothers. But ZOMG Yoshi's Island. |
They definitely did a good presentation. They presented there ideas and concept and blew the doors off it.
No smash bros :( No real online games :( 27 playable games tomorrow!!!! Good lord, I'm glad I'm not trying to preview all of these... |
I want pics of Yoshi's Island 2. WHERE ARE THE PICS OF YOSHI'S ISLAND 2??? ;____;
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At being half the length of the Sony conference, this was ten times as interesting. But what about Smash Bros? And speaking of HAL, what happened to the new Kirby game that was supposed to be coming out for GameCube?
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Screw my savings for the PS3, I'm getting the all of the launch games on Wii release-day instead =o |
Mother-fucking Mario Galaxy! AND EXCITE TRUCK!
I swear, best E3 ever!! |
I wonder if Mario will be playable tomorrow... I'm interested to see how you control Mario this time around.
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It's too bad they didn't unveil more about their online plans.
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I just watched the video over at IGN where Fran uses the controller to play Red Steel while giving input, and it sounds very good to me.
Red Steel at the conference seemed a bit "tight" in the movements, but he might have been a bit too cautious, or the sensitivity might have been tuned down, because it's pretty sensitive and maneuverable while Fran's using it. Wii <3 |
Wow. Seriously, watching this and the various games (Wii Sports for exemple) made feel like a kid again!
I can't wait to get my hands on one! Plus, tell me that was freakin' PILOTWINGS!! |
I absolutely loved how they had crappy players demoing the games, made it much more believable it was actual gameplay. I was laughing my ass off in delight when he kept shooting with the shotgun and missing.
Also, the second a downloadable video is available, I want links. EDIT: I thought I saw a renamed Ouendan amidst the DS game lineup, but someone in chat said no and I'm doubting they knew what they were talking about. Can anyone confirm this........... |
I really wish they would have gotten pricing and release date info out of the way and I wish information on pricing and how the virtual console works was revealed and the lack of smash bros (which is fine if Sakurai needs more time b/c I'd rather have a masterpiece than a weak launch title) but other than that I was pretty much blown away. I like how the audience wasn't bored like the Sony conference. It was a fun conference and Nintendo came out of it looking really good unlike Sony and their dull gameplay/movies and massive wallet destroyer pricing announcement coupled with retarded dual console release. I hope we get a lot more information on specifics soon.
And holy shit, DS, why must you be so god damn awesome?! It's like I'm getting the snot beaten out of me with all the good punches they constantly pull with it. Yoshi's Island 2, Starfox DS, US version of Ouendan. DS alone is coming really freaking close to being the second golden age of gaming just on its own. |
In all honesty: Was the last secret revealed? Is it the Wii Connect 24 service? Because that wouldn't be too groundbreaking.
Nintendo said the last secret affects the way you play the games. Didn't they reveal it because they are afraid of Sony copying their idea? |
I saw a girl naked the other day and It wasn't as good as that conference.
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That was the greatest E3 conference of all time. Miyamoto / Iwata / Reggie are AWESOME :D
Red Steel looked ABSOLUTELY STUNNING in the presentation. I didn't expect them to match the competitors grapihcs, but Nintendo has everything covered. Super Mario Galaxy = My most anticipated game. Holy shit. So many things to digest... |
So where can I find some trailers of all this awesomeness. Gametrailers doesn't seem to have any wii-related movies.
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What I luved is that I might be able to play and enjoy games with people.
Like real people that aren't uber-dorks. Like my parents or just people I know. I mean obviously ANYBODY can play that tennis game. I mean you can topspin or back spin by twisting the controller?! How f-ng sweat is that!!!!! And yes some of the graphics were so-so. But did you see Fire Emblem!?!?! Holy crap! And FF:CC was beautiful too. So much to be excited about. |
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They said the speaker and Connect 24 were some of the secrets of the console.
Personally, with all of that and the Virtual console with NES, SNES, N64, GENESIS and TURBO GRAPH-X games, I'm a happy camper. |
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I hope they're making it (Kirby) for Wii, because I'm sure as hell am gonna buy one. (You know, along side PS3)
I'd buy Wii for Mario alone. All those multiplayer games (like WiiSports) didn't appeal much to me. But I sure wish they had announced a price and an exact launch date. |
Yoshi's Island 2 brings so many awesome memories that I have to buy a DS for that...
Overall the conference was a lot more interesting than Sony's. I rather felt a little bored of sony's conference. |
Thanks for the screens Grubdog.
I can only hope the music is as good as the visuals are. |
TOP VIDEO, SURPRISE. New Paper Mario game for GameCube OUT OF NOWHERE.
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I didn't even finish Paper Mario 2. :(
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Wow. I thought it was going to be another RPG, but that looks awesome.
I need money ;_; |
Doesn't look very RPGish. But immediate props go to the use of SMB1 sprites. That old Peach sprite still makes me laugh.
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Super Paper Mario!!!
Brand new Mario platformer for Nintendo GameCube with Paper Mario style graphics. EDIT: man this thread isf ast |
5 posts ago, dude.
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Looks freaking awesome! I don't understand why this wasn't shown at the conference.
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Whoa, whoa, New Super Mario Bros has barely been released... so much info... stuff... hard to take it all in =o
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OMFG NEW PAPER MARIO TOO?!?!
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Looks good! Nintendo's really showcasing a ton of games this E3!
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I almost read this as something else. :tpg: Looks nice, aside from the portraits. Couldn't they go with the GC makeovers? Maybe it's a prequel. |
Looks awful.
Can I get Star Fox 2. |
Ugh, what did they do to poor Fox.
I'd like to know how the controls on the bottom screen work though. What could those shiny buttons do... |
Looks like touch screen buttons for looping and u-turns, and a meter for the brake. Meh, hopefully it works.
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This can only work if there's no stylus control involved whatsoever.
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I hate it when non-important events like "life" interfere with what really matters with this world.
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I found this on the interweb... I wonder if it's real or if it's 'shopped. |
Btw, Wii classic controller revealed:
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The controller itself looks a bit iffy, but the dpad and face button placement looks wonderful.
Playing the Virtual Console just got so much more appealing. |
Fucking awesome. Looks like a souped up SNES controller. I give it the thumbs up.
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This could be taken the wrong way... |
Super Paper Mario caught me totally off guard. the reception to the sidescrolling scenes in PM2 must have been REALLY well recieved for them to have done this.
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The remote's speaker is troubling me a little. I see the potential, yes I do. Imagine a 3D adventure/thriller title, and a character leans close to you to whisper something, and you hear it from the remote, so you need to physically lean closer to it. Or a game where you carry a watch with a video system and you get messages through it and physically have to listen in on your wrist.
But me, I play using headphones. My TV's speakers are pretty shitty and using headphones lets me cut out all the rest of the noise in my house, not to mention play at night without waking everyone. I just really, really hope there is an option in the games themselves to switch off the speaker usage (instead of a simple off switch on the controller), that would route all remote speaker sounds to regular speakers (headphones). |
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Lots of cube games coming out of nowhere. I was really hoping Kirby was still there. Oh and I really wish they had done a six face button Sega Genesis setup so you could use C buttons correctly for N64 games. Believe it or not some N64 games did use those buttons as buttons and not just camera controls. Also that setup would make playing Genesis games a breeze. I hope it isn't final. Also how is that connected to the Wii? Is it an attachment still or does it connect to the cube ports? |
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AT LAST, it's about time Nintendo puts out a standard looking controller. I always disliked the childish N64 and GC ones.
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For those of us that missed the conference (grrr History class), does anyone know of a site that had text-updates or highlights of the show? Picking up bits and pieces by looking back at this thread is helpful and all but a little bit chaotic.
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http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706158p1.html
It's all there in text. Hopefully someone will have the video up in high quality sometime. I want it. |
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A few things are unclear: 1) They didn't anounce an actual release date and price?:eyebrow: 2) So is the wiimote's speaker suppose to be "the last big secret"? 3) Nothing of Super Smash Brothers Wii was shown? I was also hoping that they would comment on PS3's controler's last-second, motion-sensing inclusion. O well. It seems like the conference still didn't answer my main questions, but I'm still hyped. |
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But the speaker feature was known a week before the conference (Gamefront.de). If that was the big secret why would Nintendo let it leak so early? Remember the time before the TGS when the controller was unveiled? No concrete rumours about the controller functionality existed, it was all just speculation. |
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1) They haven't announced a release date or a price but you can be sure it will be Fall 2006 and cheaper than Microsoft and Sony's offerings. Most speculate anywhere from $150 to $300. I'm hoping for that $200 sweet spot they always do. 2) I don't know if it's the last secret or not. There still might be a microphone and of course there are other attachments that might surface. And of course all the concrete details of the system interface and the virtual console's system and pricing. There's still a lot to know. 3) No Smash Bros yet. Sakurai was only informed of the game last E3 when it was first announced. He then had a private meeting with Iwata and then after agreeing to head up the game was given his own new studio so he probably just didn't have it ready. You'll see it eventually. You don't rush Sakurai. The man is a perfectionist. I don't expect it at launch and since the launch window is looking like the strongest console launch of any console ever I don't really care. I'd rather have a perfect Sakurai game that comes a couple months after launch like Melee than a rush job launch title. |
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Anyway..., did they show any pictures or a video of that Wii sports title that has tennis, baseball and golf in one? I'm curious if it's gonna be more like a sports sim or take on a lighter tone. Oh and Acer, it's odd that they haven't actualy anounced the specific release date and price yet, but I suppose there's still time. And yes, the launch line-up is indeed looking great with or without SSB:Wii. |
Does anyone know if Super Mario Galaxy will be a launch title or not?
While we're on the subject, does anyone know for certain what games are launch titles? |
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Meh, this sucks. I've just seen the video of the Wii games and I am not interested in any of the titles shown. It's very likely just me, but I don't like the idea of doing motions with my arms to play a game. Give me plain ol' buttons and crap any day. Things are looking better on the other consoles, however.
Although I love Star Fox, I think Fox's design has been steadily getting worse in every new game. The way he looks in SF DS is just 'ugh.' However, it looks like it's going back to its shooting roots, so that's something I'm definitely on the look out for. Super Paper Mario looks frickin' sweet, especially after drooling over the New SMB. Mario was always best in 2D land, and I'm very pleased Nintendo is actually making 2D games on a console. I am seriously stoked that you can PLAY AS BOWSER. That alone is worth a purchase. |
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Yeah, they do reveal a few tidbits or hints in Q&A sessions. And they've revealed things that weren't in the conference related to Wii already so I think they'll be a bit more open than at least E3 '05.
I'm not sure what games will be launch titles but Super Mario Galaxy seems like it should be. Miyamoto and co. have to have been working on this for a long ass time. Hey, it's okay if it's not at launch but I expect the game to be out in the launch window or at the latest early '07. I've heard there will be around 27 launch titles and a third of them will be from Nintendo if that gives you an idea of how great this is going to be. And yeah, I do enjoy how the PS3 controller is just plain ol' Dual Shock 2 but wireless and for tilt control they axed rumble while the Wii controller has 3d space motion sensing, titling, rumble, and sound all while being wireless. |
I'm wondering if the Wii controller will be rechargable/dockable, or if it'll run on store-bought batteries...
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I like how Sonic Wildfire was totally ignored by IGN.
Not that it's a good game compared to Sonic the Hedgehog. And I'm hoping we at least see a trailer of Smash at this point. |
http://cube.ign.com/articles/706/706378p1.html
A NEW BONGO GAME!! DK Bongo Blast! AND IT'S A RACING GAME! |
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It's exciting if you've ever played DK Jungle Beat, which I assume you haven't.
The bongos are an extremely fun way to play games, believe it or not. I can see them working seamlessly in a racing game. |
Pretty sweet stuff.
I'm a bit worried. I always thought the best part of Starfox games was the rail-type levels and not the all range levels. From what I've seen, it looks to be only the latter, though I could easily be wrong. Can anyone confirm rail-type stages in Starfox DS? Yoshi's Island 2. Wow, didn't see this coming at ALL. Is it possible to get drunk off hype? Fantastic. DIDDY KONG RACING. OMFG. That game was my favorite N64 game bar none. |
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Has anyone said how will te built in speaker work? Will it have a built in ROM with a set of predefined sound effects that the game will call or will the game stream an entire sound file into the pad?
I bet on the first because... you guessed! Battery life :P |
I'm pretty sure they said something about the game streaming audio directly to it.
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HOLY CRAP.
http://i.i.com.com/cnet.g2/images/20..._screen001.jpg Looks like a SNES/PS2 hybrid :( I HATE the position of the D-pad in relation to the analog sticks in that controller... |
Is the controller going to be wireless??? It looks like it has a cord :(
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The dpad looks off center a little, that might be a bit awkward =/
It's understandable since they want the twin sticks in there too, but the whole thing looks cramped. They could have simple made a SNES pad replica and I'd be perfectly happy. The dpad itself and the face button placement are still so dreamy. I can't wait to try that. |
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Are we going to get any new info on the Wiimulator? That's the one feature I've been hoping to get details on. If they implement the features I listed in my journal, THEN I'll have reason to get all Nintendo-hyped.
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I'm not entirely crazy about the placement of the ZL and ZR buttons. The glory of L1/L2 R1/R2 is that you can use them with seperate fingers. I guess they're avoiding that design for something simpler.
I dunno, I really like that controller. It looks like it's going to be as comfortable as the SNES controller was, and that one was fucking prime. |
Please don't call it the Wiimulator, SOLDIER. It's got a name and it's Virtual Console. And no I don't think they're going to let you make your own levels and stuff like you've been hoping. I think they may retool some of the old games for online play or somehow add an additional play control using the Wii controller.
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I can't believe how little was shown of Sonic wii.
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This seems like the best place to put this. Ooh, Wii is such an odd name.
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Nintendo (and Microsoft) win E3. That is all. |
From digg ~
http://press.nintendo.com/e32k6/index.html name: golin pass: harris You can find videos, screenshots, art work, fact sheets and much more on the Nintendo Wii here. In case this goes down, I tarred up all of the Wii related files, you can get it here: http://63.245.200.139/wii-press-all.tgz |
There shouldn't be any complaints over the standard controller. It's based off the SNES controller which is still in my opinion the best stand controller and is what every controller after it was based on.
My only complaint is that they keep treating the N64's c buttons like they were just a camera stick. There were games that did infact use the c buttons as buttons and those games will suffere as a result from going from a digital button to an analog stick. There's that grey area, diagonal directions, that will screw up what made sense with a digital button. Take Starfox 64. C button left and C button down did speed up and slow down and with down on the analog stick it would do a loop or u-turn. Those would be screwed up with an analog stick for c buttons. Now they could recode it so you use x and y for those functions but they absolutely need a solid N64 layout. Perhaps those tiny fingertip z buttons by the shoulder buttons could solve some of that but I still think it's an oddball solution. It would have been better if they just did a genesis six button setup. That would have covered the N64 c button issue. Oh and there is still the B and A button issue where the location of Y is where B was for the N64 and where the location of B is where A was for the N64. But I'm glad they took the SNES layout. Best case scenario, they just let us map out the buttons the way we want and have controller profiles. |
I'm not quite sure why no one has mentioned it.. but...
Natsume (developed by Marvelous) -Harvest Moon GOD DAMN IT!! I NEED HM NOW!! It's just one of those games who bring memories so sweet it makes everything around me look bigger. |
Pom - NICE find! How did you dig this up?
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I just woke up, so I missed the conference. I'm getting ready to watch it now. Did the intetnet explode or something as a result?
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Does anyone think the reason the end of the conference was anti-climatic was because Sony has already decided to "copy" Nintendo in a way? I have a feeling they decided at the last minute to not reveal the super-secret thing about the system because Sony would have until November to copy it. Thoughts?
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I thought the super secret thing was the speakers in the controllers?
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I think they felt a bigger secret was the Wii Connect 24 thing. I'll just unplug it for the night anyway, but it's a nice concept.
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Anyone else think Red Steel looked like shit?
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It was a joke, for pete's sake. As if even a ridiculously overpriced and money-losing console would even dent Sony, much less Microsoft. |
How was I suppose to know that was a joke? I don't know who pete is. ;_;
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I'm only halfway through the presentation. Outside of the lame-ass trailer video, I'm really impressed by Nintendo so far. It seems that the graphics really are GC level. Haven't heard the price yet, though.
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Wow, reading through the first few pages of this topic without having seen the video is hilarious.
I'm downloading it from IGN now...8%. :( |
Damn... At least it won't be $600.
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Did anyone see that DS Browser stuff in the Press link Pom posted?
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Red Steel looks pretty crappy; Mario Galaxy looks a lot like Sonic Heroes. Nintendo's ideas has me excited, but I didn't see that many exciting games.
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The DS's new wave of games alone beats out Sony's conference for me. Hell, I already imported "Dragon Quest - Rocket Booster" last month and it's enough fun to buy again in English. I honestly wasn't holding out much hope for Nintendo's E3 showing considering their recent history, but between the DS and the Wii this is looking to be an excellent year.
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I did not know what to expect when nintendo announced the Rev way back when. After watching the Press Conference, however, I am now very excited for Wii. It really seams like it will be something special.
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The remote's a little small, isn't it? Yotsuba's a little 6 year old girl, so I don't think the remote should fit so comfortably in her hand. (I reserved vol. 1 in my library) |
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"Mario Galaxy looks a lot like Sonic Heroes."
Take that back right this instant. I wasn't concerned at all about price, VC, or any of that jazz. That'll come in time, right now I just wanted to see footage, and as far as I'm concerned it looks fine. I dunno if it'll improve significantly. That'd be nice. But I haven't seen anything on the PS3 or Xbox360 that's particularly amazing, either. The graphical gap between Wii and the PS3 is so small as to be inconsequential. I know you can see the difference, but when you play it, if you're capable of having fun, that doesn't matter. |
Wow, thanks to the guys who dug up those names/pass for that nintendo press kit thing. Awesome stuff.
Anyone else kinda bummed they didn't show any Super Smash Brothers details? I don't think they even mentioned it. |
Yggdrasil, if you had bothered to read the thread then yes you'd learn we are a tad dissappointed that Smash Bros wasn't shown.
Oh and I played around in photoshop a bit to create what I think is a better standard controller by adding two buttons. It now is perfect for N64 and Genesis games. I'm not sure what you'd call the two additional buttons, maybe 'w' or 'i'. 'z' and 'c' wouldn't make sense because of the SNES button layout. Anyway here it is: http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4...rwithsixfa.jpg |
That's snazzy, Acer. Tell Reggie before he leaves Los Angeles via jetpack!
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Nothing can be worse than the "black" and "white" buttons on the Xbox controller though. I've always hated those things with a passion.
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What do you mean?! Those buttons were great for 2D fighters!
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My favorite part was that they were completely neutral to having a titled assignment. They were just colors.
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Acer's controller is pretty cool. I'm sure that it would pass as a rumour on a "alternative controller for Wii" later on.
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Holy shit, major props to ZeroSlash for noticing Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 2 on the upcoming DS game list! It's on the site Pom posted, but you have to click the upcoming games list in the upper right corner of the DS section.
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If you scroll down a tad bit, you'll see numerous screenshots of the upcoming DS, Cube and Wii games shown. http://gonintendo.com/
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I hope at the least that there will be adapters for the snes, n64, genesis controllers to plug into the cube slots. I'm sure there will be on the net, but I don't like buying stuff off the internet because it requires me to convince my parents...
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Hell yeah, Acer!
Why not just make perfection from the start? They should definitely just make it happen, no question about it. <3 pShop |
Thanks guys. =)
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Speaking of Matt IGN, he just revealed that Duck Hunt Wii is going to be revealed and playable tomorrow. Super Mario Galaxy will also be playable!
Capcom has also officially announced Resident Evil for Wii, but no details yet, hopefully it shows up in the next few days. |
MMM, Path of Radiance sequel (Fire Emblem) for the Wii starring Sothe. Somehow I had a feeling he would wind up being important. Pretty much clenches my purchase of the system.
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Look at the character in the plane. It looks like the same character used for all those simple sports games. I'm sure this is one of those small simple games as well. Looks nice but I doubt it's a full fledged Pilot Wings game.
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I'm loving all these vids from the Wii, I can't wait to get my hands on one. Something that struck me like a bolt of lightning though wasn't something from Reggie or Miyamoto but something my dad said. I just showed him one of those promo videos that I thought was great and said something like, 'maybe you could get into games too' and started telling him abouts all the cool innovations that the Wii has. He said to me 'yeh ok, is there a formula one game?'. I checked it out and it doesn't have one announced yet but ofcourse the PS3 does. That got me to thinking that although gamers like me who have grown up with every nintendo system think these innovations are great for games they still might not appeal to those new gamers that nintendo wants to pull in. I guess it's like how although ipods and other mp3 players are pretty cool, some people might just like sitting back and listening to a vinyl (not quite the same but it will do)
One last thing. Did anyone in Sydney see Ten news at 5 today because they showed the 'must have' Christmas toy this year, the PS3. It had some guy on there saying that play with joysticks was old school, and motion sensing was all new and awesome. I think that Nintendo will need some pretty leet marketting to combat with this free press that Sony's getting. |
Well it's not the same since it's more arcadish but he might be interested in Excite Truck.
Oh god I don't know why but that name always cracks me up. ='D Truck is just a funny word to me for some odd reason. |
BIG DAMN TRUCK
Also, anyone interested, there's a 400x300 video of the whole Nintendo conference for download at http://www.vgpro.com/file/15549_e320..._800k.wmv.html There's direct downloads, but I used the torrent with 114 seeds, so dunno how the speeds are for those. The torrent came fast. Although I have no idea why the page says it's 385.4 MB (404121190 bytes) when the file in the torrent is 260MB. |
w00!!! Although the conference was a bit shallow (expected the MOA Shows), the vids, screenshots and info on the games from tomorrow onwards will own us all.
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Shoot the neighbour's cat?
Even better, that annoying dog. I'd buy a Wii for that alone. |
The dog had the right to laugh at you, not only because you can't hit the broad side of the barn, and the fact it is not right to shoot animals for sport, even if they're nothing but pixels and polygons.
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Much hope for Super Smash Bros. on the E3 floor today.
Square Enix and Sonic have pissed me off. Make my day better, Nintendo! You did yesterday! |
Wait, there's more news being announced today? I thought it all happened yesterday. Oh well, I don't know how E3 schedules and events run.
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I hope the RE Wii isn't some lackluster Dead Aim port or something. A full-fledged RE5 with Wii aiming would be fucking amazing.
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It won't be RE5. I'm betting for a Survivor-type game. Which could be nice with the controller.
Can I say again that Wii is probably, right now, the best fuckin' thing I've seen out of all the E3s in the past years. |
An RE4-type game with Wii aiming would be fantastic.
I'd still like a real RE at some point though :tpg: |
Still no sign of the hi-res press conference video? Come on you IGN insiders, upload, upload :(
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IGN Insider max rez for the Nintendo conference is 320x240....
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The light gun looks NASTY.
I only wish that instead of simply plugging in the wiimote you could attatch it like a clip. That would be kick ass. |
They designed so it'll be confortable to use. You even got a jostick on the air trigger.
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Yes it has one. It's just not big, rather large.
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Wow, that gun looks awful. I hope they're not seriously going to go with that, so awkward. Anyone who's ever used a gun will be weirded out with having the "barrel" so low =x
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So, Red Steel will be crap. It won't have blood or gore. Graphics don't look that great.
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I actually skipped out on playing any video games up until PS2 came out because I didn't like the stupid two-dimentional graphics. I thought the NES and SNES were stupid because they had bad graphics.
Anyway IGN gives us some hands-on details on Zelda Wii. Looks like we can put our fears to rest - http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707152p1.html |
Ya know what? Before we saw gameplay, the one thing that kept ringing in my mind was this statement.
"PLEASE look like Gamecube, PLEASE look like Gamecube" Honestly, they are going to get more interested customers buying their system with cool looking games and a cheap price tag then they would trying to match Sony and Microsoft in graphics, and end up being a more expensive system. This is something new, it is going to be a risk for many people to spend money on something this new. People will be more willing to give it a shot knowing that they don't have a lot invested in it. - WraithTwo - |
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My father just saw some parts of the Nintendo Press Conference and told me, that most of the games look like childish turd. Oh, and he also added that Iwata's way of talking sucks. ::explodes::
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I watched the portion with the speaker announcement only a moment ago. The guy says:
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I thought the conference went alright. The tennis match was pretty cool. I just hope Nintendo announces more stuff about the Wii and DS. I hate the fact that Nintendo has to keep secrets from us, >_>
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I guess we'll see the real goods at TGS. Remember last year? All they did at E3 was show the shell of the cosnole. It wasn't till TGS that they showed they wiimote. (And their awsome idea still got stolen!). I expect to know pretty much everything by this year's TGS. |
Uh-oh, I just realized; the "new" RE game might be just a port of RE4, using the remote to control it. If they'll do it for Zelda, why not RE4?
I hope this won't become a trend, creating Wii versions of existing games. A different control scheme is not worth purchasing the same game again. |
SOLDIER, probably because it's been over a year since RE4 has been out and that would be a very stupid idea considering everyone has already played it when it came out on cube if they were smart or on PS2 a year later if they wanted more Ada missions, costumes, and PS2 graphics. But whatever I think they'll be making a completely new RE game. It just probably won't be RE5.
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I certainly won't be RE5. Nintendo's console might easily end up a dumping ground for spinoffs and "sidestories" like the GC did (besides Capcom's input of course). I doubt any of the major thirdparty franchises will be moving to Wii anytime soon, but if the spinoffs are good, who's to complain.
That said, I haven't read the E3 reports, but from what I've followed, I've yet to see a single Konami title. Has Konami announced anything actually noteworthy for the Wii yet? |
It's a hit already :)
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707362p1.html Do check out some of the pics linked at the bottom. Or this link. http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...62/imgs_1.html BTW: Pilotwings = Wii Sports: Airplane http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...g_3593256.html |
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Waaait wait wait, don't tell me the classic controller plugs into the wiimote and requires batteries, god no :( EDIT: Oh dear lord it does http://users.skynet.be/fa036594/wiimote.jpg Rats. So these things work on regular batteries instead of coming with a rechargable one? |
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I do hope there's still a Pilotwings game in super secret development. I guess I have to get Wii Sports when I get a Wii now. HAVE TO. Flying a plane into a mountain is an extreme sport! Also some Virtual Console in action shooots are appearing on the internet! http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/650/grimage4pk.jpg http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/IMG_8047.jpg http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/IMG_8040.jpg http://www.engadget.com/media/2006/05/IMG_8045.jpg |
Dare I say that Mario 64 has some spruced up color and texture?
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You wouldn't want to play an RE game with That?! I like it. |
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When will the rumored Star Wars Lightsaber game be announced?!! When?!!
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http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.html Smash Bros. Brawl Playable Characters unveiled! by IGN Staff May 10, 2006 - Nintendo just pulled a fast one on us. At an after-hours press briefing a mere minute ago, the company pulled another ace out of its sleeve: Smash Bros. Brawl -- the next installment in Nintendo's popular Super Smash Bros. series. Details are just now rolling in, but we have confirmed the following playable characters: # Pit (Kid Icarus) # Solid Snake (Metal Gear Solid) # Zero Suit Samus (Metroid) # Meta-Knight (Kirby) More as it breaks. __________________________________________________ ________ Can wii say, hell yeah!!!! |
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Wow. That news is hitting everywhere.
Money goes we see a trailer on Friday. |
There's a thread about the announcement. And yes, Snake is in there.
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No way. Oh wait, let me join in the bold bullshit.
BULL-MUTHAFUCKIN'-SHIT! Let's see Fox even try to blaster that Snake. |
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Metroid will also be a launch title. Ho Ly SHIT Can you say, best launch ever? |
Solid Snake? That confuses me but whatever. I'm guessing it'll use the traditional controller that is used for the virtual console.
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I must reiterate it once again, because NINTENDO IS THE CHAMPION AND I APPROVE.
NINTENDO WINS E3. That is all. |
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It won't be a launch title but Metroid Prime 3 will be.
So right now, you've got Mario Galaxy, Zelda, Red Steel and Metroid Prime 3 confirmed for launch. That's pretty cool in my book. |
I can wait for Smash in 2007. I just needed to know it's in production and it will be awesome. That is all.
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Wii = $249?
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I predicted $249 but was hoping for $200.
Still, $249 is still $150 less than the cheapest competition. You can't argue with that price! Smash Bros. Want list- Megaman / Protoman Megaman X / Zero Simon Belmont Bionic Commando Guy (does he have a name?) Vectorman Locke (imagine him stealing items from opponents!) I can't think of any more off the top of my head. |
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It won't be 249... that's still too much. Don't get me wrong, I will buy a $250 Wii. I will buy it on LAUNCH day. But, for what Nintendo is aiming at here, they desperately need to be charging 200 or less for this system.
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$249 is actually the price that EGM speculates it will launch at, same with the virtual console games prices. Whether or not they have hidden info that backs up this speculation, is unknown.
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It seems the version on display at E3 has only one small should button instead of two that were shown in the press picture. It is still being decided if it will be packed in like the nunchuck attachment. You can tell that the big button on top is to be pressed to release something that is clipped onto the bottom of the controller. Most likely that'll be the wii controller it's already connected into that'll clip on for extra wii controller functions. That'll be sweet. I'm dissappointed with seeing one of the small shoulder buttons being removed. They can't do N64 games right if they don't at least have those two extra shoulder buttons on reserve. The second analog control stick as N64 C buttons is a retarded idea and anyone who supports that idea is an idiot. Plus, the Sega games need six face buttons. This isn't hard, Nintendo. This really isn't. Just have six face buttons like the Genesis. Oh and they better as hell pack this thing with the system and every controller bundle set. Developers might actually come up with creative ideas that might need it and the strapped wii controller in the future. Nintendo, would be alienating developers if every Wii user didn't have one of these for every Wii controller they buy. |
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Hmmm this is odd.
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/795...10304229of.jpg It seems they also have a version of the virtual console controller that appears to be wired from the top and has the two small shoulder buttons. I'm confused. I think it would be better if it were packed in at least with the console so people can use the Virtual Console right away if they wanted. I think a developer is going to have to think very hard if they want to do a straight boring port. Nintendo consumers are very judgemental and don't like sloppy seconds. Ports didn't do very well when developers gave us crappy multiplatform port jobs so I think that they've learned from GameCube that that strategy won't worky. I still want it packed in with the Wii controller. Double Post: Also... http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7...10312426ky.jpg It seems like they're going to be going with the DSlite colors. |
Yeah I see where you're coming from Acer. We'll see. One thing's for certain: Things for Wii are looking A LOT better than they have ever looked for GC developer support wise so far. So I'm not really super, super worried either way regarding the shell.
As for the two different picks...uh, maybe the first one was made way earlier but they still chose to use it? Judging from the background of the two pics, it seems like the first one's merely present for use with the Virtual Cosnole demonstration while the shell in the second pick seems to be the main subject of the display. Thus, suggesting that the second one's probebly what it'll really be like. -EDIT- Seems like Mario Galaxy probebly won't be a launch title :( (The face. Click it.) I don't really mind. I don't want them to bust out all their big, super-giant franchises right away at launch and then have us wait for a long, long time for more sequels. We're already getting freaking Metroid and Zelda. That's enough. __ OMG, that blue wiimote is slick! I can only image a Wii in that creamy-blue color! |
God, Im sickened by myself this past generation. I've neglected Nintendo, playing mostly PS2. No more! Nintendo is getting all my money next gen. Wii is so going to bring Nintendo back on top, where they belong! Seriously, Nintendo with out a doubt steals the show at E3. Fuck Sony and their shitty console (that I will still probably buy) made just for graphics. This is why I love Nintendo, their systems are serious fan-service. I am so happy with Nintendo's presence at the show, and all the amazing games coming out.
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It's been proved that this design creates less stress on the hands and wrists and it's more confortable on the long game session (YET it can still cause musculoskeletal disorders like carpic tunnel so watch out!). But who cares about facts, let us hype! Hype I say! And the worst thing is that everyone seems to appluad for no good reason :aargh: Are you all nuts? Or have you just lost common sense? EDIT: Quote:
EDIT 2: WTF? Take a good look at the above pic... Nintendo is using those stupid triangular screws again!! ARGH! The console is MINE, the pad is MINE! I open it as many times I want and do what da f*ck I want with it, damn it! Maybe they are hidding lame pad internals like Gamecube's? At least the wire 'lock' seems to be using the same cheap trick GC did :rolleyes: EDIT 3: BTW their efforts to keep me away are pathetic, I've shaped a regular screw driver into a 'nintendo screw driver' with my bare hand (and some tools ;)) so more luck next time! |
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Well, actually they don't really care about converting the price from $ to € in Europe. $399/$499 for the Xbox 360 just became 399€/499€ over here and this should apply to nearly every console which was released during the last years.
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For example: Tomb Raider Legend for XBox 360 USA: $59 Europe: 69€ ... WTF is all I can say :( |
I think a 249$ pricetag is decent in comparison with the others, however, with the system specs being considerably lower than the competition, the price should be 150$ or 200$ at the very most.
On another note, some of the WEEEEE games look really good but others look like cheap ass GC ports. WHY THE F$ck. I hate crap like that, its what makes public opinion about systems power falsely speculated. All because a lame ass company wants to make a cheap quick buck on a crappy last gen conversion. Examples: Pixars Cars, Excite Truck, Tony Hawk Downhill, DragonBall Z and the other disney games. Crap like that will ruin the Wii making the non-tech savy folk who don't understand the industry think that it is just a Cube with a new controller. Games that actually look good: SSMB, Mario Galaxy, Madden 07, Red Steel, Metroid 3, and Sonic. |
ExciteTruck does not belong in the same sentence as Dragonball Z. The BIG DAMN TRUCK racer is shaping up to be the best over-the-top arcade racer since San Francisco Rush.
Yes, DBZ and Cars did look like complete rubbish. They're ported clown meat filler for the launch, every console has them. 'Sup GUN for Xbox 360, Ridge Racer for DS, other example here, RC Revenge for PS2. |
yea, well maybe the vids at IGN are just making excite truck look bad, but visually it just doesn't look like any better than what a GC can do. All systems have these crappy first gen games but for Nintendo, it is absolutly crucial that they show that 3rd partys can pump some decent visuals out of the system in order for them to compete with sony and microsoft's technical colossi. Because like it or not, visual upgrade in a next gen system along with innovation, is a very very important factor. Horsepower is not the only factor, but it IS an important factor.
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A preview of the Virtual Console
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According to the press.nintendo.com website, the media:E32006 user/pass will be available until May 30. I downloaded the entire site (around 700 Mb.) and can upload it somewhere if needed. If the videos aren't needed I can strip a good 200 mb.+ out of it, so, tell me what do you need.
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The analogue stick placement is similar to the Dual Shock. The button layout is identical to the SNES controller's setup, which the Dual Shock then copied. Last I checked, an analogue stick is not a set of buttons and it utterly confounds me why they'd acknowledge the shape of the pad, but fail to acknowledge who made the layout in the first place. Goddamn misinformed "information". It's crap like this and the guy on the news talking excitedly what a revolutionary concept the Dual Shock 3's movement sensor is that pisses me off. IT'S NOT EVEN A MOVEMENT SENSOR, IT DOES NOT DETECT MOVEMENT YOU ASSMONKEYS. |
Uhh, I'm a little worried about what they say regarding "upconverting". They say that Mario 64 was "upconverted" to 480p, but shouldn't it be playing 480p natively? It wouldn't make sense to render the game in 320x240 and then upconvert it to 640x480 when they could just run it at 640x480 to begin with. I hope they just didn't know quite what they were talking about.
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I just had this underfull idea and I'm asking you guys if you know anything about it and what do you think too.
The Wii has Gamecube ports isn't it? That means you use the Gamecube controllers with it? That would kill half the pain of the Wii (sorry all but the classic Wii pad just found it's way to the 1st place of my most hated pads ever) Also the Wii has USB ports too... does that mean I can use USB pads with it like... say... a XBox 360 USB pad or a Sidewinder? That would be utterly sweet (but unlikely)!! Anyway, since the Wii can (probably) use GC pads wouldn't it be awsome if the game devs had an option to use the standard controler or the Wiimote? Like we have today button configuration (free button assignment), screen configuration (4:3/16:9) and sound configuration (mono/stereo/surround) wouldn't it be great if the had controler type configuration (classical/remote)? That would definitely put me in the Wii bandwagon not only because Sonic Wildfire looks better than the 360 Sonic but also because it would show that Nintendo respects our choices regardless of their stand, a truly democratic console I say!! And if you think about it...why not? Afterall isn't choice a good thing? The freedom to use whatever pad best fits you and your kind of game. At least that's what OpenSource™ dudes are always saying. So what do you have to say to the guy (and gals if any)? |
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Just thought of something else - with Opera as the web browser for the Wii, we should be able to use "mouse gestures" by moving the Wii controller. :ninja:
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SUPER MARIO GALAXY NOT MAKING Wii's LAUNCH
I thought I heard it was gonna be a launch title but sadly, they announced today that it wasn't gonna make the launch. But it'll supposedly arrive in the six months window of the launch. |
A bit sad, really... I would soooo have bought Wii if Mario was a launch title. Sure, we (pun intended) still have Metroid Prime 3 (Oh yeah, and Zelda too), but other than that I really haven't seen anything really great. Smash Brothers has always been 'meh' in my book, and the sports titles and such, like Wario ware, which I think is tosh, just doesn't appeal to me...
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Keep dreaming if you think Metroid Prime 3 will make launch. Last I checked, Retro has repeatedly delayed every game they ever made.
It really is too bad. Mario and Smash Bros would've been enough to convince me to buy a Wii at launch. :( |
It might be for the best that some of the games won't be ready at launch. I know when Dreamcast launched, there were so many awesome games that I couldn't figure out which one I wanted first. (luckily, Soul Calibur was so far above the rest that it was an easy choice.)
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SOLDIER, if you knew anything about Retro Studios you would know why the first Metroid Prime was delayed time and time again. They were in an internal company crisis for the longest time before Miyamoto came in and bitch slapped the lot of them into the fine company they are today. And if you're referring to the delay for Hunters you are wrong again since that was made by NST. Metroid Prime 3 has been slated for launch and I expect it there with Twilight Princess and a whole bunch of games.
Also, I imagine Super Mario Galaxy will be in the launch window somewhere between late 2006 and early 2007. The game looks to have way too much polish to not be very deep in development. And Qwarky, my sentiments exactly. I'm tired of the total dual shock reference as well. It's an SNES pad with two analog control sticks placed in dual shock layout. devilmaycry, you won't be seeing a lot of Wii titles supporting the cube controllers. A lot of the functions that the Wii controller and analog attachment provide won't be able to be recreated on a cube controller. |
Have they announced any Wii games that could be played with the Cube controller too, aside from Smash Bros. Brawl? I personally like that decision, since the control scheme in Melee was excellent for combat and didn't really need any fine-tuning anyway. I can't see it being a very good decision for many other games though, since it would only cause complaints of Nintendo releasing "old generation" stuff on the Wii.
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Think about it. How much longer after Wii is released will retailers still be selling new GameCube software, hardware, and accessories. Cube controllers would have to be easily available for consumers everywhere for people to get for that option to be used. I just don't see that happening. And no, for official support counting on resale stores like EB and Gamestop for old controllers does not count. |
Aren't all the Gamecube games fully compatible with the Wii? I'd imagine they'd still be selling the controllers if nothing else. Or was this feature dropped?
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Yes, they are. It's possible that they'd still sell controllers for that but for how long. But I expect that support is for people who own a cube, have games and controllers already, and want to play them on the system.
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I will need ALL THE BONK/B.C KID GAMES and Super Bomberman 3 thanks Hudson. |
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Not sure if anyone else noticed this, but:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8243/mbt2ib.png That's the Mario theme! |
Check this out guys, the Wii line - http://www.gamespot.com/pages/profil...iM2l2H65bsMuj4
6 hour wait to play Wii games! PS3 and Xbox 360 wait is just 5 minutes. |
Bah haha, that's INSANE.
I don't know if I could wait that long standing up... It would be tempting though. |
there are a couple people playing DS in the line, its a good place to wifi and make the line up more worth it
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Figured I'd post this hear just so you all are better informed.
http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...93/vids_1.html Matt Cassamassina: "What about the classic controller and the light zapper? Are these gonna be something sold seperately?" Perrin Kaplan: "We have not made a final decision yet, I think that they will probably be sold seperately, in that, the nunchuka and the wiimote will be part of the pack-in." |
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BTW, anyone else realized that with dual Zappers, the analog stick allows for the player to control their character and two weapons, all independant of each other. Hell, you could even use the zapper for movement and shooting, and use a standard controller as a knife, sword or something else!
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Yeah, but from that video you learn that there are still more secrets to the hardware that haven't been revealed which is great. I enjoyed the video. It was fun. =)
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Oh... I've just noticed the seller at Amazon.co.uk that selled RGB cables t 9.99£ has disapeared. Damn he must've went out of stock in blink! Thank god/alah/budha I got mine in time, now if only I could get that RE4 at 9.99£....:fishing: |
Can you please stop making retarded assumptions please?
The development using the Wii controller has been said to be fairly easy and since it's based off GameCube development kits it is very easy and cheap to develop on the Wii. The devkits cost less than even the PSP devkits. Iwata has already stated that all Wii videogames from Nintendo will be at max $50. He said that for short, simple, budget games they may sell at $20 or $30 and/or be sold online via the virtual console for a low price. Third parties such as EA may up the price to $60 or $70 dollars like they have for 360 games because they're assholes but that remains to be seen. As Perrin Kaplan said, they are still figuring out what to pack together when selling controllers. Right now it looks like the zapper and Virtual Console controller will be sold separately and the wiimote and nunchuck attachment will be sold together. Personally, I'd love to have them all bundled together if it didn't cost too much. Nintendo is looking to sell these at low affordable prices so you can get the most enjoyment out of your system with friends and family. It's part of their crede for Wii that they want the system to be inclusive so I can't imagine them being very expensive. Whatever they come up with I'm sure will be good. |
Haha nice, Kaplen actually made sure to include Australia when Matt asked about the Worldwide launch. <3
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Alone? Probably not unless Nintendo has a way to have games compressed really well, form a list of downloaded games that can be redownloaded quickly if space is needed for newer downloads, and keeps the savegame data. Then that amount of space could work.
I think Nintendo is going to recommend that if you're serious then you upgrade to a bigger SD card for more storage and/or use an external harddrive via the USB ports. |
Has it been stated yet on how the Wii will store data? I'm aware of the flash drive but will you be able to use memory cards or another alternative for storing data? I imagine those 512 MBs getting filled awfully fast with the VC.
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Why can't you just import? Does it end up costing the same due to shipping? Or is it because of your PAL TVs?
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PAL is a problem, but I think a freeloader could change all that. There are websites offering those delicious US games relatively cheap, but I've never really gotten into it.
With that in mind (and trying to get back on topic) I'd happily swap the VC for an all singing all dancing region free Wii. God that would be great... |
Oh goodness, I really hope Nintendo makes it region free. Sony is. Nintendo would be dumb not to. I hope they let you download and play japanese games too. That would be killer. I'm shooting too high but man that would rock.
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Region free wont happen bacause of the incompatibilities of PAL/NTSC and that's something no costumer support wants to deal with. It could happen on the 360/PS3 since the 720p everywhere means the same number of lines universaly but both console also support regular TV so no luck.
Even if they didn't the 720p standard has floating rafresh rate like on regular TV, like 720p50(Hz) and 720p60(Hz). This is probably to make todays TV shows of each region work without using 3:2 pulldown (inserting frames into each second of the image to make it 30 Fps/60Hz) but unfortunly screws our region free gaiming. Nonetheless it can still be done, but companies don't do it so they can rip us more money based on regions :( |
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Guys, about the 512mb storage and VC games.
The largest N64 game ever created, Conker's Bad Fur Day, was 64 megabytes. You could store approximately 8 of those. (The only other game that reached that filesize was Resident Evil 2.) 90% of N64 games are a lowly 8 megabytes. You could store 64 of those. I sincerely doubt anyone wants to download 64 games from the N64's library, given that it didn't have more than about 20-30 really good games. You're all literally worrying about nothing. |
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An average danish game costs $76.74 - I'm getting the same from a couple of reliable online-shops I've been using for a long time now at an average of $40. I count 3 games I've bought in Denmark since the beginning of 2005 (5!). Screw Denmark, they can't compete on the international market, and damn, has the world grown smaller... I also just got a Xbox 360 controller for two thirds of the danish price - delivered to my front door yesterday. Importing has in time become my only option. I'm still too much of a pussy to import a console though... =P |
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The problem is (also) in the rest of the specs, the NTSC has 525 lines while PAL has 625 lines meaning that a USA game has a diferent resolution from a European game, and while this can be solved in-game too it's harder and brings other problems so diferent builds are always used. Also, the color system used is diferent (see NTSC color jokes) and this is a big problem too, this one can be solved by the console by codifing the signal according to your settings. Bottom line, I'm sure they could do it (and some XBox 360 games do I heard) but they don't usually do it because it would make the console and the games a tad more expensive and because they woudn't be able to rip our pockets like they do today :D Also for us europans it normally doesn't make the games that cheaper, we have to pay import duties, pray that game doesn't get caught in the customs, that doesn't get lost overseas, wait weeks for the game to arrive... USA/Jap imports are only for non available in Europe games. |
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Don't forget that there is still time between now and Q4. Nintendo can still realize this and upgrade to a harddrive (which would not cost much more at all). Nintendo seems to be full of suprises this year, so why should hardware be an exception?
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Madden on Gamecube might've sold like, 5 copies. Bad example.
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The Wii will come with two USB ports, and I seem to remember reading that you can use just about any USB harddrive with the Wii.
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Yup that came from a quote from Iwata. =)
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It's pretty much official everywhere...
Nintendo OWNS E3!! http://news.com.com/Nintendos+Wii+st...?tag=nefd.lede http://media.games.ign.com/articles/...80/vids_1.html (note: editors say so in E3 Day 3 Wrap-up) And there's more... |
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The worst thing is that they might force them on us by shipping them with the game and dispite the common(??) belive these don't come for free. Quote:
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I don't think their has been a case where Nintendo will charge extra for an accessory that is required for a game. |
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Owned you've got a memory card you've never seen!
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I just remembered something...
You might not have to worry about savegame space taking up the 512MB flash. Remember this? http://media.revolution.ign.com/arti...g_3233326.html Oh yeah, memory card ports. So it is quite possible that the Wii games could save to the same memory cards we've been using the past 5 years!! |
i've had a memory card 59 for awihle now, and i'm probably not getting another memory card. why? because by the time i get a game that actually requires more space than i have, i can delete old games that i'll probably never play again (or that i'll want to play through next time instead of continuing with a saved game after the end of the game).
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Time for a random post in this thread. Although it wasn't playable at E3, there's a trailer of Super Swing Pangya Golf up now.
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1...ngwii187dx.jpg hello kasumi =x |
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Yeah, Wii isn't getting a HD. According to Microsft and Sony, a 20 GB HD costs at least $100. Besides, SD cards are cheap and as BurningRanger said, VC games aren't going to take up massive amounts of storage. If you can pick up a 512 MB card, that's a gig of stroage right there. Enough for hundreds of VC games.
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Besides, you may be able to transfer those games to your computer via the SD cards to make more room. I really wonder how Nintendo is going to prevent piracy this time around.
Double Post: And that looks awesome, Infernal! =D Pangya looks like some fun arcade golf. It's a shame it won't be going online but if that means for a better offline experience then so be it. |
But I heard it won't make it overseas, that's another drawback. If anything, I'd love to play Tiger Woods 07 on the Wii.
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I have a feeling that Nintendo would try to get their first game from Tecmo in fucking forever over to the States. Fanboys will eat it up that some DOA characters are in it. If not and it's still an awesome game then importing shouldn't be a problem if Nintendo is smart and doesn't do region locking.
I'd rather play arcade golf than sim golf. Same goes for most games actually. I fail to see the drive behind realistic games unless it adds to the mood or atmosphere i.e. Resident Evil 4. |
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I do hope they upgrade to at least a gig, having around 700 megs for extra content and 300 megs for game saves and VC games should work out pretty well. But I have to wonder why the flash memory isn't removable, you're pretty much forced to get a memory card if you want to take your saves over to a friend's house now. |
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no. For Wii. I'm talking for Wii. I'm fully aware the original PC game is very online based.
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Only one "No" would have sufficed. =(
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Yes, but it would have not been nearly as fun to say out loud. =D
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Do you read all of your posts out loud before submitting them? :tpg:
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A good deal of them I most certainly do. =)
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See Wii Eject a DVD!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYNZ90kB2wk&eurl= What am I wondering is; where the hell do Gamecube discs go?! |
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-EDIT- Here's a list of games that EB and Gamestop are stocking up on. The earliest release date I found on there was 11/01/06. I wonder if this is any indication to Wii's launch date. I was hoping we'd recieve it some time around November. Also, the games are listed as $59.99 for pre-release price. WTF? |
So the other day a buddy and I were talking, and I was saying how a 3d Castlevania would be awesome on the Wii and essentially a no brainer. Then today I read this from Magicbox "Castlevania producer Koji Igarashi said that Castlevania does not fit with Wii, because the Wii market is for people who want to have new experience, these type of people do not have time to play lengthy games like Castlevania; also he does not have a good idea to make use of the Wii controller in the game."
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Looks like the Wii banner for games' covers has been revealed. This was on another forum with no source so I'm not sure how official it is...but here:
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I hope that's not it. I enjoy cover art. I don't enjoy giant company logos or design blobs that cover said enjoyed cover art. The DS is okay but the cases are pretty different anyway. I hope Nintendo leaves it to a corner or something.
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I hope not either. It looks pretty...ugly, :/
Oh, and in other news, I read this at BBC and Joystiq.. Sony has now backed up the Wii, stating that most consumers would buy the Wii as a second console, after getting the PS3. So, if the Nintendo Wii was the 2nd console choice after the 360/PS3, wouldn't that put them at the top? Yeah, it may never happen, but judging from what Moore and Harrison said, it's possible. |
In Zelda's case, it's going to be far worse. Expect additional labels and logos to make it perfectly clear to the idiotic parents that they're buying the right version for for their kids.
::still gets the wrong one:: |
It's not too bad... It's far more intrusive than I would like it too be though. Make it smaller and I'll be happy.
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Fucking soap opera. In other news.. anybody have any ideas what's behind the mesterious panel on the front of the Wii? I hear that it might be some sort of 3d projector, but I guess we will have to wait and see. I bet they planned on releasing it at E3 but after Sony stole their shit they thought twice. |
Um, I always thought that was where you put your SD flash card. I don't think it's going to be something crazy like a projector. In fact I'm pretty certain it isn't.
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Definitely an interesting concept, and those are some pretty neat little bits of information on that site.
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Cool, looks like I wasn't crazy. I talked about this concept last March.
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More than likely that system had to do with scanning the player and putting their face in the game.
Holograms and projectors are expensive, the Wii is not. Speaking of Wii price, SEGA expects to see it sell for "under $200". Dig it. |
Wow, i stop reading this thread for like two days, and it takes an hour and a half to catch up.
I'm already dreaming about the day i can pick up my very own Wii (o man, so possible ways to twist that sentence). I'm really hoping and praying that the Canadian doller remains this strong until after the Wii launch, i really wanna pay something like 270 for the console. I think soon after i come into some money i'm gonna go out and buy at least two new gamecube controllers, and not open them until the day i open my Wii box. Mine are wearing out pretty quick, and i really want to be able to play GC games long into the future. It's what i should've done with 64. I only have one working 64 controller, and it's on it's on it's last legs (a friend i loaned it to spilled juice on it or something, and the B and right C buttons are sticky to the max). I hope we can save our files to GC memory cards. I just bought one of those new fangled 1019's, i doubt i'll ever need another memory card again if what i hope prooves true. Quote:
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Man... if they could do that for the rumored under 200 dollars... that would literally END the competitors.
Of course, there's no way that could happen. 3d projection technology can't possibly be that advanced. Still curious as to what's under the flap, though. |
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In fact it's kinda ridiculous, the 'causal gamers' are already gamers (hence the gamers word) so they already know how to use a normal gamepad. So what's the point of the new remote? Anyway who doesn't know how to use a pad after 1 day of trainning? They won't be the experts but it will suffice. And what about the 'new gamers'? Haven't plenty of 'new gamers' get their consoles with regular pad and learned how to use it just fine? Afterall everyone has a new gamer at some point... not to mention that this group doesn't buy a new game every week. By this logic countless board games would have to be redone because they have too much pieces and rules, same goes for card games, infact god forbid us from playing them, each set has 52 of them! This whole thing doesn't make any sense, it seems to me that Nintendo is trying to catch some user to add to their fanbase and uses this gimmiekick to attract their curiousity them but they might be shooting themself on the feet. This feeling gets even stronger when you wear Sony and MS saying that Wii would be people second choice to their own consoles, it seems like they are so absolutely sure (or else they wouldn't even dare to think about saying such thing) that the Wii will fail so miserably that they can freely use it like a pawn, a scapegoat to attack each other without fear of backfire and Nintendo steal thier own marketshare. A glooming sign IHMO. Quote:
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DUDE.... if they considered Wii a thread, a console capable of stealing the lidership of the console market or even to reduce their own share they would bash it all the possible weak points and even if the console had no weak point they would either make up some or never mention it. If they openly say the Wii will take the 2nd place is because they have absolutely no fear from it, and means they somehow ;) know the market share of Wii will be something ridiculous... I for one don't like this because it will reduce competition but that's where it seems to be heading. OH!!! Wait! I got it now! You thought these dudes were sincere, honest, with fair and square market competition. That they were expressing their genuine feelings of admiration about Wii and ready to accept Nintendo's challenge with fair play. Ah... how silly of you :doh: |
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THAT'S your demented excuse to finally give in to the fact that Nintendo isn't going to charge $60 for their Wii games? How many times did Acer even need to TELL YOU? Quote:
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Ok I think we are better to leave the speculation aside for 1 year (at least that's what I'll do effective as of now) and we'll see then the results of Nintendo, Sony and MS efforts. |
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I don't normally point out grammar errors but...it's ten in the morning and it's funny. |
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the good ones are on handheld now plus didn't somebody show him the virtual console controller he can use for the game? er.. oh no.. somebody better delete devilmaycry's post we don't want a locked thread again such assholes these days... |
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Anyway, what' wrong with it so I don't do it again? |
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devilmaycry, you're a fucking idiot. Just stop speaking.
Nintendo marketing to non-gamers is a brilliant move. My mom read about the Wii in Time Magazine and since then is eagerly anticipating it as much as I have. She and I used to play games when games were controller by a D-pad and 2 buttons. She lost touch with gaming around the time SNES came out because the controller was too damn complex. She couldn't get into it. She had a hard time figuring the whole thing out. Yeah, doesn't sound like a problem someone like me or you would have, but for someone in their 30s/40s, it IS a problem. She has been eagerly awaiting a return to simple gaming, and the Wii is going to attract people like her. I already got her to play my DS with New Super Mario Bros and Tetris DS, and she's considering picking up one of those too! If Nintendo can successfully market this thing to non-gamers, specifically those like my mom who can't (or don't want to) handle complex controllers, Nintendo will EASILY become the market leader. They're an untapped resource, and they outnumber us by ALOT. It's smart marketing. |
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My comments on Sony and MS's comments on Wii.....
I think the reason that both sides said this was because they knew that Nintendo really "won" E3. Nintendo had everyone's eye and delivered in a HUGE way. There is no question about this. What Peter Moore and Phil Harrison said was them trying to gain attention back and to distance themselves from Nintendo. They can see that Wii is far superior innovatively and creatively, whereas their consoles have horsepower and eye-candy. They know they can't convince everyone to not buy a Wii. But they can easily convince people that they have a product you can't get on Wii, which is hard-core gaming. These consoles really are barely in competition. There is really no question in my mind, the Wii will sell more consoles than the X360 and will DEFINITELY sell more than the PS3 (which I think is more than guarenteed to fail). Now this doesn't mean that every publisher will start making all their titles for Wii (e.g. MGS4, FFXIII, GTA4, etc). What this does mean is that Nintendo is gonna making crap loads of money, and all of us are going to enjoy gaming again like the Atari days, fun simple games. Why is Wii going to sell alot? People do want something new, and Nintendo is the only one offering truly something new. Throwing the football with Madden, pointing the bow and arrow w/ Zelda, accurate gun aiming, steering wheel racing... This IS revolutionary. And it will only grow from here. Can you imagining playing Fight Night Round 4 with two wiimotes as your fists? How about RE5 with accurate aiming and lighting effects? How about RTS games finally easily usable with mouse-like control? How about a true sword fighting game? Lightsabers? Airplane flying using the wiimote as a flightstick? The possibilities are truly endless... Whiners like devil may cry, and Jacky boy who had this great line in the Best of E3 thread, Quote:
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The problem, Dayvon, is that they won't try it. They'll stick to playing stale graphical upgrades of the same games they've been playing forever. Little do they know that they'll look like morons when they're trying to fly a plane in Warhawk by wiggling a 10 year old Dual Shock controller.
Don't worry about them. It's their loss, not Nintendo's. Nintendo probably could care less about morons like them anyway. They'll get more marketshare by NOT trying to hook them in. |
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Many gamerz will say "look at the neewbs playing Wii!" But the entire mass market will say "look at the nerdy gamerz twiddling their thumbs!" I'm so glad Nintendo decided to risk it all to bring us something new. If nothing else, their efforts in this way warrant a Wii purchase. |
Hey Acer, a quick sidebar, shoudn't this thread be changed to the official Wii discussion thread now?
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Native speaker or not, devilmaycry, I'm going going to do you the favor of banning you from this thread. If there's anything I hate more, it's those who spread misinformation because of ignorance. Get the fuck out.
Yeah, and amusingly devilmaycry will be banned from such a useless thread if I close it for a new one. I'll either rename this thread later or make a new one when I've got my computer set up and everything. Moving home from college is a bitch. |
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Good God! I leave this thread for like half a day and some idiot comes in and attempts to shit all over it. Acer, I had seriously forgotten how unpleasant Wii related threads were before you decided to bitch-slap morons outta here.
Anyway, first Sega, and now some other analyst predicts that Wii will be $200. |
Yeah, Sega and many other analysts believe it's going to be $200. Keep the tradition, of course.
Plus, check this out. Bluetooth for the Wiimote. http://revolution.ign.com/articles/708/708953p1.html |
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I'd love to play Beatmania with the Wiimote. That'd be awesome.
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So, can anybody explain to me what the use of Bluetooth entails? People seem quite excited, and all I understand is that it is a means of wireless communication.
What are the exciting implications besides the obvious? |
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Wii kicks serious arse and the potential of the console is mind-boggling, but the FRICKING media (well, the newspapers I've been reading) doesn't seem to take note or even look at what Nintendo have been doing. [HERALD SUN - The Australian (Melbourne) Tabloid Newspaper] -Around 15 paragraphs. 6 to X360, 5 to PS3, 2 to Wii. To add to the injury, some "professional" had a say in Nintendo's plan, "Although the Wii will have a lot of features, the PS3 will still lead because it simply looks better in terms of graphics." What kind of F**ker is that? Hasn't she seen the DS? [THE AGE - The Australian (Melbourne) Spreadsheet Newspaper] -Around 38 paragraphs. 12 to X360, 12 to PS3, 11 to Wii A bit better, a bit more unbiased, but have a look at the "Best of E3"!! Assassin's Creed (PS3), Viva (Pinata), Crackdown (360) and Crysis (PC). They included Mario Galaxy and Spore, two games in which I would agree with but most of it were games to do with extreme violence. WTH!!! [MX - The Australian (Melbourne) Free Tabloid Newspaper] -Around 12 paragraphs. 5 to X360, 5 to PS3, 2 to Wii The title is "Nintendo, Wii Love It"... But what's this? Only two paragraphs and a photo of Shiggy playing Steven Spielberg in Wii Sports? Bleh. And then the rest of it talks about the upcoming games on X360 and PS3, almost all of which are violent or "Mature". Why so much bias? There were as much things to talk about in the Nintendo section as there were in Sony's and Microsoft's. |
My estimate of the percentage of violent/mature games at this year's E3 is about 85-90%. And most of the rest are handheld titles. So it's not too surprising that the games they are talking about are violent. At this point, it's simply a fact that a lot of the games coming out right now are violent.
I'm also not too surprised newspapers aren't exactly up to date on these things, they are hardly the place to look for objective and relevant reporting in general, and especially when it comes to the games industry. I certainly still believe that the Wii will appeal both to the hardcore gamer AND the untapped market of moms and girlfriends. I reckon it'll just take time for the media to catch up. |
My favorite anti-Nintendo bias was this wonderful editorial at IGN.
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There is only two reasons why PS3 is even worth thinking about over Wii. Let me say this loud and clear: WITHOUT MGS4 or FFXIII, PS3 WOULD DIE. Two games to sell an entire system generation. That is BS. Sure you could argue that Nintendo does the same thing with Zelda-Mario, but consider this; NINTENDO OWNS THEIR WINNING FRANCHISES. I just wish that SqEnix and Konami would go multi-platform with these titles; then may the best console/first-party titles win. |
PlayStation is not about games. For non-gamers it's all about the name: How often have you experienced this situation? Someone visits you and says "Oh, you have a PlayStation" and you have to respond "It's not a PlayStation, it's a Nintendo".
And that's the reason why every single console and handheld of Sony (assuming the PS3 won't ruin them) will have the word "PlayStation" in its name. I just wonder when it's going to sound stupid... "PlayStation 6"? "PlayStation 7"? |
That's the funny part.
This industry turns on a dime. I mean 10 years ago (approximately), Nintendo was king headed into a new gaming generation. 10 years. Not like 30 or 40 years ago. 10. But now, all the world turns on Playstation? And Nintendo is barely on alot of people's radar. What's most interesting to me is the comments such as that IGN editorial that write off Wii, because "the playstation name is huge". That is BS in this market. Gamers are fickle. They go where the games are. Nintendo has ALOT more games & better games in the launch window, should have little to no shortage issues, better price, reliable hardware, totally unique exclusive gameplay... I mean honestly if the Wii was Sony's idea and it was label PS3, the media would be going "ZOMG Sony PS3 is the best thing to ever come to planet earth!!!%!&!&%!&%" |
Actually, a huge load of people here in México call "Nintendo" any console they see, be it a Gameboy, a PSX or an XBOX.
I guess it's more of a regional thing. |
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All Nintendo need to do is penetrate the European markets. They're pretty good in Japan and America, but over here people are all about Xbox360
(Magazine interview) "Screw the PS3 cause xbox360 is cool". "Why?". "It's just cool." "What about Nintendo's new console?" "Who?" -____-' |
Oh, the 'Connect' section of Sydney's Daily Telegraph did a pretty good write-up about the Wii. But they've always been pretty fair with all three consoles. Channel 7 news still wins for mainstream E3 coverage though.
"E3 IS THAT TIME OF YEAR WHEN NEW EXCITING COMPUTER VIDEO GAMES APPEAR" "SONY AND MICROSOFT HAVE NEW GAMING SYSTEMS, SONY SHOCKED EVERYONE WITH ITS INNOVATIVE VIRTUAL REALITY PLAYSTATION 3 CONTROLLER" "HALO 3 IS SET TO TAKE THE WORLD BY STORM WHEN IT LAUNCHES NEXT MONTH" "NINTENDO HAS A NEW MARIO GAME" *Footage of Wii Sports* "HERE IS A GAME FROM AN AUSTRALIAN DEVELOPER FOR PC" *Awful unplayable mess on screen for about five minutes* "AND THAT ABOUT WRAPS UP WHAT'S BEEN GOING DOWN THIS YEAR" |
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And then there was Herald Sun (Melbourne, Australia): "Sony unveiled its innovative motion controller... Nintendo also followed Sony and has implemented its own motion controller." GET THE F***en facts right! The Wii controller was shown a year ago!!! |
This is a perfect example of what Nintendo is doing wrong right now.
Magazines and newspapers are fine, whatever. But right now Nintendo needs to be airing commercials for the Wii nonstop on any and all TV channels. Even if they're just teaser commercials for now, the key thing is they need to be getting their image out right now, before everyone hears about the PS3 controller and gets conned into thinking Nintendo stole something from Sony. If that happens, Nintendo's chances will be seriously hurt. |
That just bothers me, that newspapers would state that Sony had the motion controller idea first. It's not true, did they do any fact checking? or did they get paid off.
In Canada, we won't see any evidence of video games in the press until all the consoles are within about two weeks of release. I remember when Xbox and Gamecube came about, it was the first time i'd ever seen anything about the PS2 in any Winnipeg newspaper. They were running a comparison article, stating everything there was to each of the three consoles. It was surprisingly unbiased. I hope they don't muck up this time around, and shit all over nintendo. |
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On the other hand, Nintendo's target audience could care less for the Playstation 3 and whatever it offers. Nintendo's true audience would not care if PS3 did all this shit since it's set WAY out of any casual gamer/non-gamer's price range. Seriously, now that Sony's using "Tilt sensors" on their controllers, it's even harder to justify the $499/$599. PS3 may as well equal a Wii with better graphics and a shittier version of the Wii's motion sensor, and from what I see, the $300 is a longways away from being justified for simply better graphics that nobody is going to notice unless they're staring at point blank from the TV screen. I dunno, I just don't know what to think anymore. I will personally be picking up a Wii at launch, but I doubt I'll ever pick up a PS3....not unless it drops below $300. |
From Famitsu:
"What games are you most interested in after E3?" 1. Zelda (Wii, Nintendo) 2. Final Fantasy XIII (PS3, Square Enix) 3. Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3, Konami) 4. Dragon Quest Swords: (Wii, Square Enix) 5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii, Nintendo) 6. Super Mario Galaxy (Wii, Nintendo) 7. Final Fantasy III (NDS, Square Enix) 8. Monster Hunter 3 (PS3, Capcom) 9. Biohazard-Serie (Wii, Capcom) 10. Halo 3 (Xbox 360) "What hardware are you most looking forward to?" Wii - 68,8 % PS3 - 21,0 % Xbox 360 - 7,2 % NDS - 3,0 % "What do you think about the PS3 price?" 88,4% very high 10,9% appropriate 0,7% cheap I think I smell change in Japan coming this fall |
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Yeah, just heard about that. 174 € converted from the japanese price could mean about 199 €/199 USD on launch. Like a lot of people already predicted.
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I am so excited for this news. This puts the cherry on top. We obviously know it will be out in Japan, Australia, & the Americas by Christmas (Cassamassina - Perrin interview), so this just finishes Nintendo's brilliance and brings the Wii to be the hottest item this coming holiday season. |
Yoshihiro Mori said Wii will cost no more than 25.000 Yen/222 USD/174 € in Japan. He also stated it wouldn't cost more than 250 USD in the US. The European price is still undetermined but it should cost around 200 €.
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As said, just copied it from GameFront. Here's the original message:
"Nintendo: 'Wii soll höchstens Yen 25.000 (Euro 174) kosten' 25.05.06 - Die Famitsu gibt bekannt, dass Wii höchstens Yen 25.000 (Euro 174 / USD 222) in Japan kosten wird. Das bestätigte Yoshihiro Mori, Nintendos Senior Managing Director, auf einer Pressekonferenz, auf der das Jahresergebnis vorgelegt wurde. Wii würde demnach etwa 1/3 so viel kosten wie die PlayStation3, die als 20 GB Modell für Yen 62.790 (Euro 437 / USD 558) in Japan angeboten wird. Die Xbox 360 - in Japan nur als Premium-Modell erhältlich - kostet derzeit Yen 39.795 (Euro 353 / USD 277) und damit ca. 40 Prozent mehr als Wii. Schon die letzten drei Hardware-Generationen von Nintendo kamen für Yen 25.000 in Japan auf den Markt: Super Famicom (Super NES), Nintendo 64 und Gamecube. In den USA soll Wii nach Angaben von Nintendo nicht mehr als USD 250 (Euro 195 / Yen 27.968) kosten. Wo der Preis in Europa liegen wird, sagte Nintendo noch nicht: Geht man von den Preisangaben Japans und der USA aus, käme ein Preis um die Euro 200 in Betracht." Babelfished: Nintendo: ' Wii is to cost at the most Yen 25,000 (euro 174) ' 25.05.06 - The Famitsu communicates that Wii will cost at the most Yen 25,000 (euro 174/USD 222) in Japan. The confirmed Yoshihiro Mori, NINT DOS senior Managing Director, on a press conference, on which the year's result was submitted. Wii would therefore cost about 1/3 as much as the PlayStation3, which is offered to 62,790 (euro 437/USD 558) in Japan as 20 GB model for Yen. The Xbox 360 - in Japan only as Premium model available - costs at present Yen 39,795 (euro 353/USD 277) and thus approx.. 40 per cent more than Wii. Already the last three hardware generations of Nintendo came for Yen 25,000 into Japan on the market: Super Famicom (super NES), Nintendo 64 and Gamecube. In the USA Wii is not to cost no more than USD 250 (euro 195/Yen 27,968) according to data of Nintendo. Where the price will lie in Europe, Nintendo did not say yet: If one proceeds from the quotations of Japan and the USA, a price would be possible around the euro 200. |
My bet is on 199.
There is really no reason why they´d sell it for 249 as the Yen price shows how cheap they can sell it and still make a profit (that´s what I assume as the hardware doesn´t seem to be very expensive) of it. Also all their other consoles were 199 on launch date as well - why should they interrupt this "chain" with the console that is meant to be bought by new and non-gaming costumers? I´d be surprised if it´ll cost more than 199 €/USD. |
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We're talking Famitsu here, Lukage. The Japanese are interested in four things for the PC: Pangya Golf, MMORPGs, dating sims, and hentai games (the last two boil down to the same thing most of the time). And most likely it was just a poll for just consoles and handhelds.
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Japanese retailer PC-Success listed Nintendo's Wii for just 18000 Yen (160 USD/125 €). They have removed the price but it's still viewable in some price search engines.
Source: GameFront.de Please save your "OMG!!!!!!!1 he believe a online shopp!!" for someone else. I know these are not reliable sources when it comes to prices and release dates but I think we're all dying for some news on Wii. |
Remember that Time Magazine article on Wii? Here are some of the mag's readers' replies. And the first two are idiotic assholes.
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I thought that conventional card and board games were pretty much the same thing as any videogame, except for the fact that you necessarily need other people to play them. They even cost the same. What's that bitch complaining about, then? She hasn't heard of multiplayer games?
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OMG that old granny from the second letter needs to try before she replies... You interact with other humans with multiplayer (as Luxo said) and Wii's multiplayer games seem to be able to emphasise that. What a luddite. My girlfriend's grandma's view on videogames changed when I showed her Brain Training... Must we make games like that just to show the world what games are all about (not that there's anything wrong with that, but is this the only way to get it through to their heads that games aren't anti-social anymore)?
As for the girl issue, head over to (http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/ge...ust-boys.html). But at least Time is giving attention to Wii. Every other printed media that I know off brushed it off like a fly in their "E3 specials". |
Not sure if anyones seen this http://www.thewiire.com/news/340/1/A...of_the_Iceberg
It's an interview with a guy from ATI saying what we've seen thus far for the Wii is essentially the tip of the graphical icberg. I was actually hoping for something llike this, but with Nintendo's refusal to release specs, I wonder exactly what we're in for. |
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Anyway, here's another little tidbit mic/no mic? I must say, with the wiimote doing what it does, having a speaker, and now a rumored mic, I'm very concerned with it's battery life. I believe I read somewhere that it's not gonna be rechargable anymore (at least not at first). Seems like that thing will go through batteries like crazy! Oh and why is this thread so inactive now? :( |
If it's just several times more powerful than the Gamecube(like some people claim), then shoot, count me in. After seeing Resident Evil 4, and Metriod Prime 2, that's pretty damn good in my opinion.
No rechargable batteries? That's a bit of a downer. |
Hell, Gamecube's graphics are good enough already, I really don't give a damn if they went better (though I'd like it). No Rechargable batteries? Damn. It's like a shot in the foot there. Hmm...It'll probably last a while anyways....like how long a single AA battery lasts in my notebook optical mouse. It's been going for like 4 months now.
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Maybe because the press coneference was back in May and there has been very little news since, and the influx of Wii news that came from the conference has been discussed to death.
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According to this article: http://www.thewiire.com/news/342/1/Pokemon_set_for_Wii
Nintendo, besides revealing Pokemon Battle Revolution (Which looks phenomenal!) for the Wii, also detailed some of the connectivity features of the DS and Wii. Among them being using the DS as a touch screen controller for the Wii. Nintendo has also said there are other secerets concerning connectivity between the two. Do you think its possible the DS could transport its screens via the Wii to a television? Enabling us to play DS games on a television. |
I'd prefer a mic in the controller so it would simulate a hand radio (perfect for online multiplayer games), a headset would only drain the wallet more...
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The DS/Wii Connectivity has a lot of potential. There are just so many possibilities that I can't even begin to think. Pokemon Battle Revolution looks fantastic. and all this is coming at a cost of < $250. Life is good. |
I never thought it could happen, but i think i might end up back into pokemon. I figured after Gold and Silver i was done, and out grown them. But latley i've been itching for some poke action, and new stuff. I think i'm going to have to invest in Pokemon Battle Revolution, and potentially Diamond and Pearl.
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I just got the new issue of Edge today (their e3 report took forever) and there was something I hadn't seen reported elsewhere, regarding the Virtual Console and the controller.
http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/IMG%20359.jpg If this is to really happen, I for one would be extremely happy, while I'd guess a good quantity of people would feel extremely ripped off about even more separately sold add-ons. Great (possible) news for retro nuts in either case. |
I saw the controller a while back (ona Wiki page I believe).
I still dont see how one could replicate the N64 controller in any other way. |
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As in, you could buy a SNES controller replica, or an N64 controller replica for the Wii and plug it in the Wiimote, just like the classic controller. |
Oh my god. This better not be some cruel joke.
If this is true, then Nintendo has pulled off a definite win. Original style controls to go with the original games. This is pure heaven. This would take the cake. That's an NES, SNES, N64, Genesis controller. I'm not sure what the other one is though. But regardless, this would just own everything else PS3 or 360 try to pull. Nintendo Owns Life. |
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Yes, Nintendo FTW. |
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I just hope if they do this, they keep it accurate and release the SNES controller over here in Europe in the correct (Japanese) colors and not the US style. http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/snes_europad.jpg EDIT: owned by Jazz~ |
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http://www.retrousb.com/images/superretropad1_large.jpg Though it does look somewhat more homosexual.....but let's not go into that....:) |
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I know it's totally pushing it, but it'd be sweet if those replicas came packed in with Wii. But, I don't even see them selling these seperately. I mean, why create a seperate, all in one, classic Wii controller if you're gonna have the actual older controllers available?
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Just a guess....but possibly, they could bundle the all-in-one controller with the Wii system, and then sell the others separately. At the same time, people could trade in older SNES/N64/Genesis or whatever controllers to get one that's compatible with the Wii for free. A stretch, yes, but a possibility maybe?
Alternatively, they could bundle cables so that you can use your old ones to hook up to the Wiimote. Be much easier rather than remake an old controller. I dunno, it's just wild speculation now. |
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It's possible they won't go ahead with them in the end, but I like the idea of giving people the option, cause I sure as hell want to play my N64 games on the proper controller. |
My guess is if these are sold at all they would be available online through Nintendo's website. It wouldn't be logical to sell these through retail outlets unless they sell extremely well online and even then it's a crapshoot b/c you might have already expended the demand of such a niche market.
My guess is that if Nintendo doesn't go through with it (which they should) then 3rd party companies will come up with a better all-in-one solution classic controller (and they'd only need to add two more buttons on the face which is complete lol at Nintendo for not already figuring it out) or their own versions of retro controllers or snazzed up versions of retro controllers. |
Perhaps have some bundles where if you buy game X on the VC, you get controller X as well?
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The retro controllers are an awesome idea that I think we speculated on wayyyy back when we first heard of the VC. It's great they're going to do this, even though I would probably only get the N64 one. I hope they release a plug adapter so you can use your current ones, though.
It would be nice if you bought a retro controller, it came with credit towards VC games on that particular system. That would atleast give people some more inscentive to buy them other than them being totally kick ass. |
I showed a few people the Wii e3 video, responses were mixed, but the majority thought it was a decent way to play games (the one that had a positive comment by nearly all was the sword part :edgarrock: ).
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Oh oh, Wii's secret slot's exposed. But what does it do?
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So help me god the thing below the circle looks like a DS slot. If Nintendo has finally given me the ability to play portable games on my tv out of the box, I will shit myself, literally!
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I wonder what that small "eye" is for. In the comments of the news it has been speculated that it might be a camera or a projector. What do you think? My guess is that it's a device to project 3D things into your room. I just can't imagine Nintendo to rip-off Sony's EyeToy. They wouldn't do such a thing... |
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I noe I noe it's IGN but here's some food for thought. |
I'm not in the mood to google this technology, so can someone please enlighten me as to how 3d projection would hypothetically be implemented in gameplay.
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It would basically allow (I think) a 3D image to be projected in thin air. Either that, or a 3D image to be projected on a wall.
It's use in gameplay, I don't really know. I suppose what it could be used for is direct contact with the image while manipulating it with the Wiimote. |
It's just an SD card slot guys, get over it.
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It may be an SD card, but I just like the idea of being able to play GB/GBC/GBA/DS games on the Wii, as to not make those games obsolete (at least the GB/GBC titles)
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Ya'll know what it's really for. http://img424.imageshack.us/img424/7388/famicom3en.jpg |
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So the price of the virtual console games themselves....I heard it's between $4.00 and $9.00? Is this true? Because that's not bad at all.
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That's a reasonable guess and from hints that's likely, however there has been no set price set yet. As usual we're in the dark.
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Found this somewhere between internets.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2...compare5dy.jpg http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6...eafter22mo.jpg It's all good, only I liked the bigger A button. Oh, and I'm starting to loathe the inevitable use of a house-symbol for "home". Bring back the simple blue dot(!) I just made this thread go into even more trivial tidbits :( |
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"SUPA MARIO BROTHAAAAASSS!" :mad: |
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On a brighter note, it's great to see NOAustralia garnering Wii attention. Saw a few ads and deals from Toys R' Us and other SMALLER GAME STORES (unlike EB). Screw you EB, where's my Wii? PS3 in November WOOPDEDOO. "I saw a few stores getting ready to campaign for the Nintendo Wii. What about you guys? Any word on the release date?" "What's the Wii?" "... Uh... The new name for the upcoming Nintendo Revolution." "Oh must be just recently cause we've never heard of it before." "Toys R' Us did. Video Gaming Heaven did." "Um... Okay. For the time being though, you should check out PS3 over there..." And finally to clear things up, I've read all the posts about it here but is it that both the Wii-mote and the nunchuck add-on have motion sensors? IS it that the Wii-mote has gyroscopic technology whereas the nunchuck only has tilt sensor? I need some clarification for my own sanity -_-'. |
Yeah, the Aussie Toys R Us are giving away a free game with the Wii if you pre-order now, which is pretty awesome.
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By game they obviously mean FREE NINTENDO SPORTS DEMO DISC =o
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If it includes that WiiSports Airplane, then that'd do!
"THIRTY SECOND TIME LIMIT" Then Iwata appears on screen, laughing. :( |
I'm usually waaaaaay too late when it comes to this, but some website has the "Big Secret". I'll quote it now, just to spoil the surprise.
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So... An SD-reader? Not too bad. SD-cards are cheap. Way cheaper than "real" memory cards. As long as I don't have to buy silly memorycards, like this generation, I'm satisfied! |
Lol, talk about overhype, but it's still good, SD cards really are cheap. And they're much more universal. And compatible with your computer. Lol, I see some people hacking into their saves. or at least FAQs on how to hack your saves.
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The Synch will probably link other systems so multiplayer games can deal less with connection issues.
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Or more likely, the sync button will sync the contents of your flash drive with your SD card.
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