What do you think of interracial couples?
 

What do you think of two people of different races dating? I ask this cause a white friend of mine has a black girlfriend and gets hell for it from some people. Pretty much everywhere they go people stare at them and this girl's own brother constantly keeps telling her "It's ok to play in the snow for alittle while but you have to come home eventually". My friend also has tons of people ask him "Do you think she's hot" pretty much everytime they see a black girl now.

I just never understand why so many people find it so hard to mind their own business. On a side note I'm thinking of asking out a black girl myself and I know I'm gonna get annoyed cause human beings already piss me off enough from having to work Retail.

You'd think society would have gotten over this racial barrier thing, but some still have problems with interracial relationships.

Personally I see no problem with it as long as it is a loving relationship and not some sort of bizarre racial fetish.

Being a product of a interracial relationship I see no problem with it. But I do live in a place where there are tons of different ethnic groups.

I got nothing else to add though I agree with Dullenplain. Last I checked love is colorblind.

I feel pretty much forced into it since every quality black girl I’ve ever met (expect for my first) has either been overly religious or taken. I catch hell for it too, but I just don’t give a flying damn.

Oh if only GFF didn't go down I'd link you to the thread I made...

But yeh I'm in an interracial relationship and there's nothing wrong with being in one. Not even cultural differences get into me and my partner's way. "Love is a universal language", so says the Hippies.

Pity some guy the other day wasn't too keen on the idea of me (Chinese) going out with an Aussie. "Stop stealing our chicks, mutha fu**ing Chink. Go back to where you were born."

"I was born here you fool..."

I'd stare if I saw a white guy with a black girl. Not because there's anything wrong with it, but if they were close together, the contrast of skin color would make for an interesting visual.

If they love each other, then by all means go for it. I see nothing wrong with it.

In my specific case, I can't see it happening - I have nothing against black people, but I've never had a black woman that attracted me. Not any negative feeling, just the complete absence of any feeling whatsoever.

I don't think anything anymore when I see interracial couples. It's very common, and as long as it works for the people involved, why should anyone else care?

I do have to admit that I'd probably do a double-take if I saw a white man with a black woman, though, since it's almost always black men with white women. In fact, I'm not sure that I've ever seen it the other way around.

If the relationship was an actual loving, caring one then I don't care what skin colour they are.
But it fucking pisses me off when I hear someone talk about specific ethnicities as their preference or 'fetish'.

"Awww, man, i LOVE asian chicks cause they're so TIGHT!"
I've punched a guy because of that.

I heard one girl say that she loves a guy because of his personality more than anything else, but then turns around and says that she prefers white guys over asian guys (she's asian). If you love someone because of their personality, then it wouldn't matter if he was white or asian or whatever right?
So to me, a comment like that is more based on sexual preference than anything about loving relationships.

You do realize that people have multiple things they can find attractive in others, right? And that they're all not necessarily as important as each other?

I was just thinking about this, and I've come to the conclusion that society doesn't have a problem with white women dating men of other races, but for some reason people don't expect white men to date outside their race.

My husband told me once that in high school he had *cough* gone out with *cough* this hispanic girl, and when his friends found out about it they called him "Taco Dick" for the rest of the year. I doubt that any girl who had slept with a hispanic guy would have to put up with people calling her "Enchilada Hole."

I've seen plenty...in fact I was one myself....I'm a black female, and I dated a white male...well technically he was white and iranian but he looked white and i think everyone else just thought that too unless he told them but anyway i dated him for a while we used to have class together for 2 yrs before we started dating in HS... We did get a lot of looks though...we went to Ocean City one night over the summer with some of his friends, and I of course was the only black person in the group as i often am, but we were walking holding hands and such, and i was sitting on his lap on the board walk and some dumb black guy yells out about me having "jungle fever" and how come i was dating a white guy.... i think it bothered my bf at the time a bit, and me too, but i was like whatever some people just won't change, as ignorant as they may sound to them it makes perfect sense...

SO i'm not against it at all. i think that it's fine as long as they both love each other why should anyone else care...? The only difference between the individuals is that one is what i term "pigmentally challenged" one person just happens to have more pigment than the next person, I don't see anything other than that separating the races...

I can kinda understand if for whatever reason a guy thinks asians look better, but that's gotta be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Being that you said that happened in high school, I'm not even the least bit surprised.

I definitely agree that interracial relationships are a good thing. After all, without them, we would probably have weaker defenses against some forms of diseases. However, when I was a freshman in college, I sort of felt like those Aussies in your country b/c this was the first time I was ever around more than one black person. Every time I tried to ask out a guy (white, mixed Cherocasian, etc) they would ignore me and always go for a black girl. I seriously got into an argument about whether or not more black guys wanted white women or more white guys wanted black women.

I don't really think like that anymore, especially since I found out that about half of the men on campus were not interested in women anyway. I'm all for interracial relationships, especially since very few people have the same mix that I do.

Two of my old friends from high school were in an interracial relationship. Their parents were originally against the idea when they began dating, but eventually just accepted it. Her father is still a little uneasy about her boyfriend's color though.

I'm rather impartial regarding interracial couples. If anything, I'm actually surprised that there aren't very many I see at university. Most people I've met at school tend to be interested in people who are the same ethnicity as them.

I admire people who date interracially; from what I understand, depending on your geographic location, people can be really cruel about it, and that can put alot of strain on things. Relationships are hard enough to maintain without outside pressure.

I've never had an interracial relationship, but that's because I happen to live in a very white area, so it's not like the odds of it are very great. Although, come to think of it, both my roommates are currently in interracial relationships. I am ridiculously attracted to this guy from Ecuador I dance with sometimes, but he's already got a very long term girlfriend. =/

I don't have a problem with the *couple*... it's the ugly kids they'd have that would creep me out.

Mixed people seem to be the hottest people out there. They tend to look more exotic and a lot of Hollywood's hottest people (that actually deserve the title) are of mixed origin. Halle Berry was scientifically proven to be the most beautiful woman in the world ("The Science of Beauty"--Discovery Channel) and she's African/Caucasian. Heather Locklear (sp?) is part Lumbee and Johnny Depp is 1/4 Cherokee (along with Jimi Hendrix...rock on)! Keanu Reeves is a mixture of all different origins from Lebanese to Hawaiian (possibly some Asian I think).

Granted, when you see caramel skin with platinum hair it's a little odd...but for the most part the blends are very attractive.

I certainly know that if I'm ever going to stand a chance with a girl, it couldn't be a filipina. I'd be the joke of the family on both sides, since I don't know how to speak tagalog! Obviously, I am 100% satisfied with interracial couples.
However, I can't help but glance and then turn away when I see an interracial couple. They always make me smile for some reason, but then I think that might offend them so I turn away.

For me, it's as simple as "Love comes in all colors."

Not much to explain beyond that, but for those who miss it I am all for it. The idea of race is one that was made up by a bunch of white anthropologists with a bias towards white supremacy. In my eye we are all the same, and the reason some peoples look different than others is because of their environment.

Yes. I see them every day. Every day. But keep in mind I'm talking from my point of view.

I'm still amazed people DO have a problem with it. With all the bigger issues in this world, people still have to think circa 1950 when it comes to relationships.


I am in an interacial relationship [White/Asian], and personally...I don't see the big deal, as many other people in this thread said. But of course, the parents have an issue. lol. I don't get it, and in a way, I don't really care.

Because my grandmother is half-filipino and my grandfather is white, they were regarded as a 'mixed couple' back in the day. They got a house on the edge* of town because the 'normal' (white) families didn't take kindly to them.

Considering my mixed heritage (polyneasian/european) and my husband's equally diverse bloodline(cuban/european/native american), we have no issues with interracial relationships. I had a co-worker who said she'd never date outside her race (because that is how she was raised). Seems kinda wierd to me to limit your standards to 'I wont date outside my race' but that's their own choice I guess.

*It was the edge of town... in the 1950s. Now it's like the middle of town.

I'm fine and dandy with mixed couples. Love is love, and it's awesome that cultures and religions can mix to form a neato relationship.

I don't know too much, admittedly, about the animosity towards mixed couples. In fact, I don't know too much about animosity towards ANY kinds of couples. Up here in New England, we seem pretty awesome about crossing over cultures, races, and religions.

This is almost exactly the same topic that caused me to quite another BBS. Although the sentiment here is decidingly different, but then again, people here are older and more diverse too. I then found out that I was at a forum that is full of SM like people with the sentiment along the line of "them N###erz are taking our women!!", they are not even joking. Yeah... I wonder sometimes why it is so difficult to communicate the history of oppression and its modern day ramification to those people.

Good luck to your friend, because a lot of people within the United States are not of just one race. There was a survey done in 2004 that said that the white population in America was 25%, but even then you have people like my family who claim to be white because either their Cherokee blood would keep them from getting a job or they simply don't know that their past ancestors were of a different race.

I don't know what race your friend is, but unless she can find another guy that comes from a family who has in past generations focused on marrying within the family blood line (both sides), then it's going to be VERY difficult for her to find a date. Actually, if you believe science, we all started out as African.

Thanks Hernán Cortés for mestizos!
 

They may be attractive to *you*, not to me, and I'm talking for me, not for you.:eyebrow:

There *are* some exceptions, though.

So, Umma, do we only approve of pale skin and blonde hair and blue eyes, or what?

Heil Hitler!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...and/hitler.jpg

No. It doesn't have to be an extreme like that.

That's not fair. That's what I get for not agreeing with everyone else?

Next thing you know, Umma is going to come back with somekind of bullshit reasoning like genetic determinism and how we need a fascist government to preserve the cultural core-consituency in a country where none really exists.

Anybody whose studied anthropology in the least realizes it's all a load of shit.

As for my two-cents on interracial relationships, I don't care one way or another. I think it all really depends on what you encounter at a young age, living in San Diego I encountered a lot of caucasians, hispanics and asians, that's primarily what I find attractive. I'm also the product of an interracial relationship. But, I wasn't really raised around those of my other half, so I can't really say I strongly identify with those cultures other than what I see in the media.

Alice taking full opportunity to make fun of the only person that could be construed as more racist than herself.

I don't know if that's what he meant. He might mean that people of pure African, Asian, American Indian, Latin American, Caucasian, etc. are more aesthetically (sp?) pleasing to him than people that are a mix of different races. It's not exactly racist, just more of a "this is what I think looks good" over "this is how it should be" kind of reaction.

It's sort of like people who prefer pure-bred dogs over hybrid dogs. They don't think only one breed of dog should be dominant over all breeds, just that a pomeranian and a chihuahua are better looking than a pomchi. Is that what you sort of meant Umma?

I'm colorblind. I don't see the big deal. If it don't hurt anyone, it's fine by me.

Yes, Visavi. But if I say "pure races look better" I don't come out too well, do I?

A few months ago I saw a couple of a white woman with an African man, since here there aren't any Africans, it was a surprise for me to see that.

The thing is, they were both attractive for their own races, of course I liked the man more. But I've seen what comes from those mixes... it has the worst traits of both races.

Some might find them attractive, obviously someone *has* to, but not me. That's all.

Are you under the impression that I'm from the United States? Because I'm not.

racism

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That's not me. I'm just not politically correct. There's a difference between being racist and being politically incorrect.

O man, you're fucking hilarious.

Ugly kids. Man. Your taste in women must be shit. You must dig that purebred (aka inbred) white trailer-trash look, huh?

I have no problem with it, a lot of my friends are in interacial couples and they seem perfectly happy. I don't know if they get trouble for it, I've never asked.

thsi reminds me of a book I found in my school's library, it was the first in a series of books like it from the 70's. It was called "Coping with Interacial Dating" and it was a guide for parents and siblings of a person who's in an interracial couple. There were these little scenes in the book between different sorts of couples. It provided hours of entertainment for my friends and I. We went looking for more in ther series and we found "coping" books on "being gifted", "ADD", "racial slurs", and "divorce", none of which had any good advice.

Derek Jeter is mixed. I hear that a lot of women find him very attractive as well.

I hate, hate, hate to say this, but yea. Jeter is kinda hot.

For a Yankee, anyways.

I hear that mixed couples' kids are, like, wicked desirable in the modelling industry, actually. Because of their fucking AWESOME features.

It's pretty clear to me that Umma is just a fucking moron.

Between U.S. slave owners who notoriously couldn't keep their flies closed, antiquated social values that declared anyone with as little as 1/8 African heritage to be black, and said mixed blacks fraternizing mostly with other, more "pure-blooded" blacks, just about ALL blacks in America are mixed to some extent or another now.

On top of that, most white people in America are mixed. A caucasian from Spain is a lot different looking than a white guy from Britain, or Austria, or Iceland, or Russia, etc. Us white people are frequently mongrels too. Want me to start getting into Central and South Americans, too? How about all the cross-pollination between Chinese, Koreans, Thai, and so on?

If you start to look at it with any degree of scrutiny, any arguments about mixed races, or even theories about races themselves, fall completely apart because of all the interbreeding that's already been going on to begin with.

So, Umma, is it really mixed couples that produce ugly babies? Or are you just selectively overlooking the fact that most human beings are ugly to begin with, regardless of race?

it was a couple years ago but I remember that it said that when dealing with your child/sibling about the issue, you should listen to their side of the story before giving your own argument points, or something along those lines. They made it sound like interacial dating was a crime :/

like I said in my post before, I have no problem with interacial dating, in fact most of my friends are in interacial relationships right now and as far as I know they haven't encountered any problems. I figure that if you like someone enough to want to date them, then ethnicity shouldn't be an issue.

From the comments that I've ready, no. But I was trying to clarify for people what you may have meant since for some reason they took the whole "not finding mixes attractive" thing for "WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY GOOD-LOOKING RACE AND EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS" or something like that. Not everyone did, but it looked like some people did.

What's interesting is that during the Civl War, the most requested (and attractive) prostitutes and show girls were 1/8 African. Also, people who have a Caucasian:Hispanic mix where the Caucasian is more prominent than the Hispanic are considered to be even more attractive than either pure Caucasian or pure Hispanic (many people use Enrique Inglesias as an example, but I don't know if he would be the best example).

Also, the person that mentioned the preference of mixed blood for modeling careers kind of makes a good point. Granted, I've never really heard about any statistics on the matter, but from the pictures I have seen that is normally the preference. I know my cousin, who has about the same amount of Cherocasian blood that I do, was accepted into modeling school before she decided to quit and become a maid/chicken farm worker.

*No, I don't approve of the treatment of chickens in those farms.

You know, I never could figure out why people think Halle Berry is hot. Like, sure, nice body and everything, but there's nothing about her that makes me think she's better looking than most people I see day to day. =\

Of course, I don't really think any of the other people devo showed are that good looking, so maybe I just have some sort of weird different standard than everyone else. :(

I think you're working in the lab that every engineer wants to work in. If everyone in your lab looks like Halle Berry, I'm coming to work wherever you are.

The actual likelihood of this being true is about nill. ^_^

Well, it's not so much the people around me being attractive, as her not seeming to be super attractive.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/18...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I'd take that over Halle Berry any day. <3

There's no such thing as pure race. Pure race implies that a higher being created humans in particular color schemes, and that the color schemes were eventually diluted over time. Generalize to think of race this way: you walk from the north pole to the equator. You'll see a gradual change in color from light to dark. There are no lines in the ground that separate one race from the next.

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Though that was probably because our society embraces the idea that light/white represents purity while dark/black represents animal/base instinct. I wouldn't find it surprising if they were most requested because white men thought they'd have better sex with a mixed race woman.

I don't find Halle Berry very attractive either (I actually think she's kinda ugly; it's her face and hair). For a mixed, I did find the Rock (African and Samoan) to be kinda hot (when he had his hair at least) as far as men go, and as far as women go, I'd have to say that Jessica Alba is a good example of a good mix (mixed Mexican and French/Danish), as she is like wow.

Jesus, why are celebrities needed to prove that interracial people can be hot. That's like ordering a $500 chocolate cake in order to prove to someone that chocolate can taste good.

ps debating hotness of celebrities has brought this thread to a new low

pps jessica alba is hot

I have friends that I argue with over this. I find it hard to accept that there are still people who believe in such outmoded ideas as "racial purity". One guy, a mixture of hispanic, native american, and plain old caucasian heritage, said it pissed him off every time he saw a black man and a white woman. What.

I hear the "ugly kids" reasoning a lot too. One guy played it off as "well the kids would have a tough time being biracial so we shouldn't do it". Um. And I heard another crackpot Jesus nut say he was concerned about a Tower of Babel scenario where there were no differences and everybody was the same. Again. Dumb people. And these were University students, mind you.

Needless to say, I am in agreement with virtually everybody else in this thread. Though I must admit that I am pleasantly shocked that Alice didn't voice her agreement with Umma.

You guys, please tell me you're joking. Please? I. am. not. a. racist. I'm just very, very jaded and stubborn and set in my ways and I didn't want to marry someone who doesn't (or is more likely to not) agree with me on stuff.

Maybe I'm ugly because I'm mixed. I never thought of it that way. Of course, my parents weren't exactly the most beautiful people ever, either.

So basically, I'm borderline freak-of-nature, because I had ugly parents to begin with, now I'm slapped with the worst traits from each of my parents. This blows.

Finally someone who understands me!

Just out of curiosity, what happened if that person turned out to be black. Or Iraqi. Oooo.

umma - You are being silly. If you are going to express your point of view, be tactul and support your ideas. I do not think attractiveness is a fair grounds to argue against interacial dating and marriage. In addition, if you make radical statement, you should surely expect people to react with hostility towards you.

devo - hmm, I don't think this is the first time we've been in this situation? Right?

I felt like I have to contribute to this thread. I am a full blooded Korean, although I really consider myself an Asian-American, more of an emphasis on the American because I do not particularly latch onto my parent's culture and value. There is of course a reason for this.

First and foremost, a lot of east asian cultures idealize pure bloodedness and only want you to marry within the race. Much of my family and all my grandparents are this way. My aunt who married an Italian, still to this day gets a lot of trouble for her marital decision by my grandmother. Luckily, my parents are very open minded about interacial dating because both my brother and I have dated white girls.

On that subject, interacial dating is not restricted between white, black, asian, latino, native american. These are all broader constructs. Right now, I am dating a Filipino-Chinese girl. While I am still dating another asian, there are certain situation where this would not be easily accepted. The best example of this would be between Korean and Japan. Because of past colonization, there is a deep seeded animosity between these two countries.

I myself am very supportive of interacial dating. However, I must admit, it is something that did take me some getting used to because of my relatives. This may sound silly, but from a biological and genetic standpoint, it increases heterozygosity and genetic fitness. However, from a sociological point of view, interacial dating and marriages allow for a greater mixing of culture, ideas and most importantly values.

The real take home message is that interacial dating and marriage is prominent with every day and every generation as our global social, economic and business market expands. With the healthy exchange of goods, values and ideas will be the marriage of people, races and ethnicities. Whether of not people are comfortable with the prospect of interacialism, it is something everyone will confront within their lifetime. It is perfectly fine to not be OK with the idea, but at the same time know that there are people are OK with it as well. Ultimately, it is better for the two sides to come to an understanding.

Oddly, I feel constrained due to my own perspectives. I set up my own boundaries on certain races (specifically Korean) that I want to marry. This has been prevalent for my entire life until recently...since I want to date out of my race but marriage seems...different. I feel really polarized about the issue it is a conflicting struggle in my being for I wish I didn't have this personal constraint (my parents are fine with this too...if I intermarry) but I feel rather uncomfortable for I would like to but feel as if I cannot. Bleh...hope that wasn't too scattered <_<

Part of the reason I started this thread is because of my own families opinions on this. My mom doesn't have a problem with it but she thinks both white and black guys will try to kill me for dating a black girl. She also thinks it would be a bad idea to get married to a black girl. Saying it's ok to date her but it's not alright to marry her makes no sense if you ask me. To me the main point of dating is to eventually find someone to marry. But then my mom contradicts herself all the time. For example she thinks it would be alright if I stole someone else's girlfriend, but thought it was wrong that a friend of mine asked out a girl that I liked that wouldn't even go out with me.

I also found out my grandma would be particularly mad about this, but I figured she was racist anyhow when she ranted about how she was mad that they got rid of a crayon called "Nigger Brown". I don't really care what she thinks with her outdated point of view anyhow though... I mean I hear she was mad about my dad marrying my mom because my mom wasn't catholic.

Yeah, you're right. I just didn't expect the others to be so touchy with the subject. It's not the first time I get into an arguement that way. I shouldn't have said anything! :(

This will sound racist, but I really want to know: how can East Asians tell the difference between their races?

I didn't expect that someone would consider interracial couple one that belongs to a major race... thinking about it that way, I'm of mixed race, then!

The problem between Koreans and Japanese sounds more related to national than ethnic conflict, though.

It's like how Europeans can tell the difference between each other. There really are differences, though it maybe be subtle. But then again, it's not always easy to tell. Can you tell the difference between someone from Czech or Poland? Romanian and Hungarian? Kenyan and Ethiopian?

The conflict between Korea and Japan can be trace to history. Japan has on numerous occasions tried to invade the mainland. To do this, they had to go through Korea, since Korea is a peninsula country. Also, probably because of WWII when Japan tried to destroy Korean culture when Japan occupied Korea.

This whole "race" thing is ridiculous. How the hell do you draw the border line? I think you're thinking everything in black and white terms. There are a lot of different shades of white, yellow, black, and brown "races".

Oh, you can certainly tell to an extent, especially if you're an East Asian. They're not all exactly the same "race", but rather distinct varieties of a particular subset of human physiology, much like how you have all kinds of African looking people, or all kinds of Caucasians ranging from the Middle East to Ireland.

It takes a bit of exposure to get a concept of the distinctions between Japanese, Koreans, Northern Chinese, Southern Chinese, Mongolian, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Thai, Laotian, Cambodian, Malay, Filipino, etc. You're not expected to really KNOW the difference, and unless the person is a complete ass or extremely chauvanist, normally no one would be offended if you accidentaly confuse them with a different ethnicity.

Personally, I can roughly estimate from where someone came from, having to see countless Asians during my commute every morning and afternoon to and from the university. Most are Chinese, occasionally I see some Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese though it is only confirmed when they talk amongst themselves. Most of the time you can simply tell by the way they dress. Plainer wardrobes usually indicate FOB grad Chinese students, more in fashion are the Koreans, Vietnamese and Japanese (especially with hair). Asian Americans are usually a bit more eclectic but trend towards suburban white kid wear.

Really? I thought it was because of their exotic features? Cool.

LOL, probably because if I were to say, "La'Quena is half African-American and half Caucasian and she's attractive to most guys." People would probably say, "Who in the world is La'Quena?" However, many people tend to recognize celebrities, and those who don't recognize some of the names can find pictures of them (or have pictures provided by the poster).

Unless they're 50% one race and 50% another, there is a very good chance that they can avoid receiving a hard time based on their race, so those people should probably look at themselves and wonder about their own race. Seriously, most people are shocked to find out that they are more than just African American or Caucasian. I'm not sure if Hispanics or Asians have the same problem.

I can believe that University students are dumb. Heck, I once got into an argument with a DOCTORATE here at college when he claimed that Pocohontas married John Smith. Obviously, someone hasn't seen the second movie (or know enough to realize it was John Rolf). Sadly, everyone in my class, and even my roommate, began to think that I was wrong about the whole John Rolf thing.

I think 'Damn, me and my girlfriend are good together!'

Haha, but seriously though, I see nothing wrong with interracial dating. If people love each other, who can stop them really?

Although I have been told 'You chink, stay away from our women' once.

That much difference? Wow. So it really *is* like with Europeans and Africans over there.

But come on; I can't, for example, tell the difference between an Irish and a Scottish; how could they possibly tell the difference between Laotian and Vietnamese? Both countries are small... and are right next to each other! Would *that* be considered interracial amongst them?

Other than nationality and culture, there's no real difference racially is there?

Awesome, someone else who know that Uncyclopedia exists. I love how it's a fictional parody of wiki.

Maybe I'm splitting hairs. It's not really race, but ethnicity that makes the difference, hence you have all those tribal conflicts Africa today. To the outsider, they all look very similar to eachother and are perplexed at the infighting, but to the one who knows, there are reasons why this exists.

Here's a fun diversion for you to try. All Look Same is a small game that tests to see if you can identify if the person in question is Chinese, Japanese, or Korean.

I never get a good score because most of the people chosen are so unique to the point of ambiguity.

Nice game.
 

7 out of 18. But I got better near the end!

Anyway... Yeah, I thought the actual difference would be in their cultures like Visavi said.

DarkMageOzzie, just out of curiosity, where in the US are you from?

When people stare, it doesn't automatically mean that they disapprove of what they see. It could just be because an interracial couple is not as common as people dating within their own race. I think the same could be said for gay couples. I might not stare when I see one, but because it is very uncommon, I usually take a double-take whereas I would pass over any straight couple only because you see them everywhere.

If you're happy, then hey, it's all good. I've been this side of the fence before. People can be mean when they see you and someone of a different race holding hands and stuff. Even though my ex-sister-in-law and I are the same race, I think she had it worse than I did. Every time her and her husband went out somewhere, somebody was always saying some dumb crap. This one guy told her, "Well, damn, you couldn't find nobody in your own race?".

My only real experiences with it mostly had to deal with when I had my son. These two stupid girls in the mall were staring at us when I was pushing my son in the stroller one day. They looked at my son and then at me. While they were walking past, I heard a very audible, "That's not her kid". My ex had to distract me real quick because I was in the process of turning around and walking towards them to confront them.

I don't see what the big deal about interracial couples either.

Ugh, why do I even go back to read this? I hate being reminded that there are rude people out there that will stare and go so far as to make silly comments like that.

That reminds me that I have several friends of mixed descent that I realize I could never distinguish were mixed:
One was Portuguese + Canadian and she jokes about how she's "mulatto".
One person was half-black, half-white.
One friend is Chinese + Vietnamese

No problem. I didn't stare when I met some of their parents, so in conversation I can definitely be cool with it. Although I still try to avoid looking if I were to pass by a couple on the street, because I think that might be rude of me to glance and smile.

I live in Michigan.

Hmm I don't see any problems with it whatsoever. As long as the two people can either accept or work through the cultural differences that tend to go with it but then you hardly need to get with another race to have those pop up.

Basically I think it like this: If you can make it work, more power to you. There isn't anything wrong with interracial marriage at all. We're all human.

However, many marriages like this just don't work out at all due to cultural differences. Basically, just be careful if you are involved in a relationship like this.

So one doesn't need to be careful as to whom they have a relationship with/marry if they are the same race?

Wouldn't the 'cultural' differences be just one of the many, many things that you need to work out just like any other?

hate to pull the incredibly obvious "just so you know" card, but Canadian isn't a race or ethnicity; it's a nationality. we've got a little bit of every race/ethnic background here, so it's not like saying you're Canadian is going to help the other person have any idea what background you hail from. :p


as for my opinion, I don't see what the big deal is. it's two people in love, you see it all the time everywhere you go, only this time the skin colour isn't exactly the same. though even if you are perfectly okay with it, I suppose it can still catch you offguard in that you notice just because it's not something you see all the time. I don't mean in any way that interracial couples are unnatural, it's just not something we're all used to seeing yet since not even a century ago this kind of thing was shunned by most everyone for whatever silly reason they had back then.

the town I live in, for instance, is predominately white folks, so it's not common to see interracial couples (my old neighbours were though and they had the most adorable children), whereas cities like Toronto that have a higher concentration of multicultural backgrounds would be more likely for you to come across an interracial couple. infact having more exposure to it, you probably wouldn't even look at it as interracial anymore, they'd just be a couple of people.

That isn't what I said.

I know what you mean by that. I grew was raised in a town where I only saw about three people at most that were not white/Cherocausian (most still claimed to be white though since it was the most prominent). When I first went to college, that was probably the first time I ever saw more than two African Americans in a town or more than one Asian at a school. However, I seriously don't know how to react when I see an African American/Caucasian couple b/c I know people who were jumped on for watching a couple passing them by. I also have a friend who was jumped on by an African American woman when she looked away as she walked passed a different African American/Caucasian couple. I know it's probably just this region, but I get very nervous about the situation since most of the African American women I hear in class think that the entire school is racist (even though they get more perks due to the college's belife in quotas, and that was told to my class by a faculty member with tenure).

With other interracial couples (including those with African American males and Caucasian females) I either walk casually by or sometimes I will smile and nod if I'm in a very good mood.

I'm only really attracted to white chicks and I'm japanese. This is gonna probably sound weird but I just don't find other japanese girls (or asian girls in general) hot. I dunno why, maybe it's because I'm around too many asians when I get dragged to some party my parents are invited to or some other event.

I'm amazed this is still an issue worth talking about. Why the hell should I, or anyone else, care who someone else wants to screw? Why should I care who they want to get married to? As long as the other person is capable of giving an informed consent to those things, and is a legal adult, it's something that seems to me like it should only matter to those involved.

It's all about your taste. Whoever you're attracted to (within the aforementioned limits) go for it.

Hey everyone, interesting thread here! I have a pretty unique situation, which receives pretty unique attention. BF/AM engaged couple and we get the most obnoxious and rude attention from....WHITE PEOPLE?!?!?! I really don't understand this and would love to! Black and Asian people do not act out like White people do and it's quite annoying!

Looking for a white suit for my fiance for our wedding we were out in the mall and I mean some of the White gay sales people were being rude to us, trying to ignore us, and didn't even want to help us. Then some White sales girl would come and help and would find out the suit is for our wedding and then comes all of the uncomfortability and unbelievable staring...lmao.

I really don't understand this... I'm not with a White man... he's not with a White female?? WTF?? Just don't get it... maybe it's because my Asian fiance is 6'4" and I'm 5'9" or maybe it's because we've been accused of being a striking couple by people we know. Asian and Black people have been the damn sweetest. Can anyone give me a break down on how our relationship "bothers" White people so much?? I hope I didn't offend anyone by my post either, but I'd like to try and get a better understanding of this strange reaction!

Do you define culture by what music you listen to? Because, uh, um.

It should come across to people as natural as two whites or two blacks in a relationship, humans are humans no matter what color and by disbelieving in interracial relationships it just a waste of time to worry about when in reality down generations of a family tree i can guess that almost all humans have an ancestor that had an interracial relationship and stopping it now won't do anything but cause people to do it more. If people would accept it then it wouldn't be as big of a problem because it would become so natural that people wouldn't even turn a head in the direction of an Asian and African American walking together holding hands [sorry, just wanted to use a different example other than white and black couples, i love Asians too :p]

I'm glad you did! lol... it's rare, but we do exist :)

It's because white people are dicks. At least, the ones that're being assholes to you.

There's also the fact that, I bet, most white people you come in contact with aren't rude, but most of the people who are rude to you are white, and so the pattern arises that white people are being dicks where no one else is.

Well, it is just funny to me how people only believe that Whites and Blacks are the only interracial couples in the world just because of the whole civil war thing which can be unfair and sometimes in benefit to Asian ethnicity's because Asians are not looked down upon as much in the media for interracial influences because they are, like you said, rare. But that is what makes it better right? That although it is rare, it doesn't mean that it is non-existent!

Although in reality i should take that offensively i know it is true, i once was told that although nice white people are rare it is because "the quiet kindness of gentlemen is often overshadowed by the loud boastings of opportunistic womanizers." than again, at the rate most males are becoming we for some reason are confined to being so caught up in how untouchable the white skin color is that we are blinded by the fact that whites will not really be the victors in the skin race because of this blindfold. Which in my case is ok because i dropped out of the competition long ago, now i just sit back and cheer on the minority's of the games in hopes that i can change the minds of those sitting around me and cause a chain reaction that will revolutionize the way people look at others. It is a Dream, not a wish.

You're right they are some of the nicest at times, but most are of the older generation. Mainly these younger ones ... late teens to early 30's are being the rude or snooty ones. The older ones seem fascinated and want to start conversations with us often times... we like that :)

I feel like come talk... don't stare and then give a snobby look at us. We are friendly and nice to talk to, but it seems that they'd like to judge for whatever reason. Maybe I'm ranting tonight...lol Was at the mall today looking for that jacket...lol!

Huh, that's surprising. Every time I hear 'white asshole being racist' stories, it's always an older person.

Bummer for you guys.

It is because the older have lived threw a time when interracial couples were so rare they thought it was a myth, the new generation are so caught up in minor racism that they do not see how interesting and encouraging you and your husband are to the others out there who are too afraid of what others think to pursue how they really feel. In the sad retrospect of it all you cannot stop people from staring, but you can laugh knowing that they will one day be looked snooty upon because they aren't in an interracial relationship :)

:) I like your rationale! You have such a positive outlook just like he does. All of this stuff rolls right off of him too, I'm the one that gets annoyed and wants to go into analyzing everything. Funny thing is that the subtle rudeness from other people pulls me closer to him. I guess in time I will laugh to myself just as you say... I will work on that!

That is good to hear, i mean, it may seem weird to some people but when i am walking down the street or in a mall i always tend to smile when i see interracial couples together and although they are kinda confused inside i know why i am smiling and in turns i hope that just one smile from seeing them together in public can help make all those snooty looks seem like a whisper in the wind! I like how you say that the more rudeness that people exert the closer you get to him which shows that you don't care about what others think and you are putting your heart before your mind which shows how much you really care about him ;)

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=culture

Are you just TRYING to find ways to bitch at people, because that was pathetically lame.

Why on earth would I have been talking about music? Where on earth did I even HINT at that?

Since when does culture = music? Music is a very small PART of culture.

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My point being, in recap, that while I have no problem whatsoever with interracial marriages (i'm clueless as to why this is even an issue), that in addition to the other problems/conflicts that newly weds often have, you have cultural differences to deal with, which is an added stressor.

I'd actually prefer to see more interracial marriages as I think they spawn more tolerance & less racism, and help blend cultures together, bringing new things.

Wow, that sounded terribly cheesy. =/

Okay, i see your point, sorry.

And although it may have sounded cheesy it is true, racism has only lasted this long because parents continue to teach it to their children, and with more interracial parents agreeing with integration and all people are equal it will eventually cause the youth of tomorrow to believe that interracial relationships are nothing more than normal, at which they really already are.

Definitely. I can see the racism lessening even in my own family. None of my family is really like...eh, hating racist? if you know what i mean? but its just what they grew up with and what they knew. Now its down to me and while I still do tend to make pre judgements based on race, i dont see it as evident in me as i do in earlier generations of my family. Interracial marriages/relationships do kind of make me turn my head still, because they are still something outside of the norm (at least in my area, and I've noticed this even becoming less so), but i could definitely see that within the next generation it wouldn't even make someone blink an eye.

But yeah, praise the Lord these sorts of things are being worked out of America's society.

true, but if this continues to become an issue (at which it is not so much as before) would you think it would be right for people to protest about this display of affection in public? I mean, in all honesty, i would just be on the side for equality but what about those who refuse to let their hate for other colors die down and continue to teach children, grandchildren and so forth about the ways of racism? I am sure that eventually yes, interracial relationships will be nothing more than a typical male and a typical woman dating but how long is eventually?

Well, quite frankly, I believe racism, as wrong as it is, falls under the protections of the first amendment. If it is a harassment issue, then sure, that has to be put a stop to, but you really can't stop racism, even if you do try to legally censor it.

True, but if we can kill eachother over racisum it is fair to say that we are trying to do more than just censor it, we are willing to kill one another to make sure that we either live by the word or outcast it from the english language, in the end, both sides won...so who is to say that it will not happen again, as unlikely as it sounds.

Wooah I don't know what is up where you guys live but I'm about to marry a Chinese immigrant and I have gotten no problems from any of my friend. Her family came here when she was 11 so she has an accent. My family has given me nothing but support in my decision, her family on the other hand is a very conservative Chinese family so there has been some resistance from them. They like me so it hasn't caused too many problems. Most of their objects came from financial and age concerns, however once they realized that we were not going to bend by their pressure they supported our decision.

I do notice that we get stared at a lot while out walking around. Then again it might have to do with the fact that I am a foot taller than her :P

Well, there's not a whole lot of cultural difference between two folks who live close together.

The only way I can see you thinking that different races have entirely different cultures in the same country, where these races aren't actively at war or segregated, is if you think culture is determined by musical taste and how you dress.

Darky please.

we are talking about relationships/newly weds. Yes over time this will obviously disappear/spouse will get used to it.


Get out in the real world, open your eyes a bit. There's cultural differences that go with being of a different race, yes, even in this 'melting pot' you call the United States. I beg you to find anybody else that will say otherwise.

And I didn't say entirely different cultures. Maybe your problem is interpreting my words to mean something they never actually said.

But whatever =/

isn't that what makes 'culture'? I mean, sure not all races are going to be different culturally but it doesn't mean they are all the same. I don't believe that DarkLink is trying to say that Music and Clothes are what makes culture, he is just pointing out that sometimes music and clothes can contribute to different culture in different races. Even so, this doesn't make sense on how interracial couples and cultural differences are the same discussion. And just because different races live in the same country doesn't mean they all go by the same cultures, that is what makes this country so different because everyone has freedom of religion and culture.

Do you reckon most people date folks who live far away, or close by?

Oh, so when you say cultural differences, but not entirely different cultures, you mean that they like different music, they wear different brands of shoes and they are on opposite sides of The Great Pepsi / Coke Debate, right?

Can you be any more of a fucktard? Are you just being difficult because you think its funny, or are you really this fucking dumb? I've explained myself well enough that I'm pretty sure most other people in this thread know what I'm talking about, and thats good enough for me.

No.

I know what he's trying to say, but the problem is that he's mistaken.

He, and you, are missing the forest for the trees.

Freedom of culture makes no sense. You made that up, first of all, and second of all, are you too suggesting that people who live in close proximity will not share a large amount of 'culture' due to race, insomuch as culture is a quantifiable thing?

Please, just think about this before you reply. Ignore the fact that the internet is irritating you and try to think about this critically before replying.

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Since you're illiterate, what I am trying to say is that the cultural differences between two races in the same general area are about as significant as the cultural differences between two classes of people in the same area.

You are not good at thinking. :mad:

You aren't good at explaining yourself clearly. What it sounds like is that you are just trying to write off cultural differences as though they don't even exist (at least as a marital problem). Or that I'm just trying to write 'culture' off as what music people listen to or what clothes they wear.

Race is only an object when it comes to cultural differences when specific group of people has the means to isolate and segregate different group from one another, be it political means or economical mean (in which discrimination and abuses inevitably occurs) , but then, that is a social consequence to the "concept" of race. However, historically this has never really stopped the cross pollination of culture between people of different races. I personally don't think it is as much of a cultural issue but rather then a class issue and how people perceived the concept of "race" itself.

What century is your town stuck in? Around here, interracial is so common that nobody even remarks on it. There are some types of pairing you never see, but other than that...

IT's hardly my fault you have no creativity.

I am not, but you are. My wingman explained it very elegantly, even you should be able to understand.

I seem to recall way back in the thread you putting THESE words in my mouth.

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If I have to use creativity to decipher your posts, you need to go take an english course. I don't assume people mean anything beyond what they say. It's stupid to do otherwise.

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Or perhaps when you put THESE words in my mouth:

So just stop. If you think this, then fine, but don't just automatically assume its what I'm trying to say.

Well, the century my town is stuck in is this century. Although you may live somewhere it is accepted, that doesn't mean that all towns are the same way. I am glad that it is common where you live, and maybe your town can inspire others, but at the moment there is such a thing as people frowning upon interracial couples.

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Oh, and i didn't notice this before but if you are from Britain, than this sorta thing is probably very uncommon, actually, it is probably uncommon for most European nations. So i guess that might need to be taken into consideration because not every nation is the same obviously and some states in those nations are sided differently on certain issues such as Interracial couples.

I'm just saying I had no idea. No idea at all. It has been this way in my area for a good few years now, and I had just no idea at all that this was still an issue in America. What state do you live in? I assume these attitudes vary from state to state.

Seriously, this thread comes as a colossal shock to me. Over here, people date whoever they find attractive. Admittedly, that's only been the case with recent generations, but still, I thought that everywhere was like this. The phrase "interracial couple" just never gets said.

Heh, over here (meaning America) something like that sounds almost like heaven for some. Yea, well where i live is California, where it is not as looked down upon but it still is not in best interest by some. Most of the youth have come to accept the idea but the older seem to still dislike it sometimes. Mostly parents. I figured that since Britain never really had as bad of issues concerning Africans like America does (i mean we had a civil war for god sake) so naturally the word interracial is probably never used there...

The Afro/Carribean people who came here first were invited. We said to the people in the West Indies "Please come here! We need more people. We have jobs we can't fill". Naturally there was some racial tension at first, but overall, it's not on the same level as in America, and never has been. I guess when you mention the civil war, that does help to put things in perspective.

There are still racists here, and there always have been, but racism is a minority view now. It's not a paradise of equality, there's always some racial tension, but overall, we never had the whole segregation issue to contend with, as far as I know. It just never quite got that bad. Back to the subject of interracial couples, I think that probably you have to go back 3 generations at least since it's been a big issue for the majority. Maybe I just live in a nice area, if other British people want to set me straight, I'm interested to hear it.

Well, in honesty i am glad that the world hasn't been succumb to racism and like said before, the Civil War does play a big role in racism in America. Sadly, because of all the things going on with 'open borders' and so many races it becomes a hassle to try and get rid of racism when everyone finds more and more problems with each new group of immigrants coming in. Although i think that thankfully in California that since most of the new generation take no discrimination when picking relationships, although it really comes down to mental ideals of why a person is attracted to certain skin color and etc. but as long as parents (which is the main problem) don't teach their children racism then America could very well be as equal as Britain
(Which is a lot coming from a pure White male)

So you're saying it's stupid to assume people use double-meaning or speak vaguely. Wow.

Well, since you ignored SCHNEE-5, I'll reiterate succinctly: between two folks of roughly the same geographical position, assuming all other things like class are the same, and also assuming there aren't barriers between the two people - warfare, segregation, that sort of thing - the cultural differences are negligible to such a degree as they can be ignored. Personality is more impacting at this point.

That's why you must think culture can be boiled down into goods marketed towards blacks and whites, if you think the culture difference can be prohibitive enough to give pause. But you're right, this whole time, I've been assuming you are able to communicate your thoughts effectively. That was foolish of me. Tell me then, what do you think are the cultural differences between two starry-eyed kids in America today?

I'm saying I don't have enough faith in fucktards like you to have enough intelligence to mean anything more than what they actually say. Safer than sticking words in people's mouths.

Wow, you finally figured it out. Do you want a cookie?

You think I'm a fucktard (that's Zeph by the way) because you are incapable of reading sublety. You further think I am incapable of sublety because I am a fucktard. Just who do you think you're kidding?

You're the one who says newlyweds have to be CAREFUL, because of the cultural differences that come with being interracial. Can I take this to mean you are now abandoning your position?

Since when does your culture not affect your personality?

See what I mean about being dumb enough to read too far into what people say? You have the worst habit of just assuming people mean more than what they say.

Oh, and by the way, you didn't use sublety. That's just your lame excuse for typing a bunch of bullshit & putting words in my mouth.

However he wants to define culture is fine by me. That's a non-issue. The original point still stands. There are added stressors with interracial marriages. Then on top of that you have the general public not being very accepting of interracial marriage. All I'm saying is that for people in those sorts of relationships, just realize that conflicts are going to arise as a result of those stressors.

But I don't know, maybe you live in some sort of amazing utopia where everything just works out great.

Melanesian/Caucasions are probably the most attractive people on the planet. Fuck off and die.

After the 1950s, when gay was discovered. Are you really this stupid?

You still haven't told me what cultural differences are between black and white people in your neighbourhood.

Here are some differences between black people and white people in my area:

- Black people go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays and stay there for a loooong time. White people stay at church for two hours, and that includes sunday school.

- Black people eat different types of food. They favor fattier, less healthy foods than white people. They even cook their vegetables with a lot more unhealthy stuff like bacon grease. It's tasty as hell, but this would explain the reason why there's a lot more heart disease among blacks.

- Black people place a lot of emphasis on their cars. Around my area, affluent blacks are a rarity. It's also quite rare that a black family will live outside a certain area of town (probably because of financial restrictions). Hence, in my town, there's a community called "Springfield" where most of the black folks live. You can rest assured that outside every shanty of a house there is a Mercedes or a Hummer or a huge Cadillac or a BMW. Also, they keep their cars cleaner.

- Black people (as a general rule) do not tip very well and will run your ass into the ground asking for stuff. I worked as a server for several years and I promise you that no one wanted to wait on them. Black women in particular are extremely demanding and tend to look at you as if you have shit on your face. I used to bend over backward to prove to my co-workers that this was not a cultural difference (because this was when I was younger and not so jaded and cynical about people),and that they tipped differently because they were TREATED differently, but I finally gave up trying. Even the black servers didn't want to wait on black people.

- White people are not as interested in sports as a group as black people...again, in my area. The black people here are ALL ABOUT sports of any kind.

- White people are always in a rush to get somewhere. They're always zipping around from place to place. Black people know how to chill. I drive through that Springfield area I mentioned earlier every day and I always see them sitting outside on their porches at night and walking over to their neighbors' houses. I never see white people doing that...well, except for old white people.

- Black people walk if they don't have far to go. I always see them walking down the road. White people will get in their cars and drive down to the mailbox to avoid having to walk anywhere.

There are more, but I think this is enough to illustrate my point. I already hold the title of Racist Queen around here, so I figured I might as well call it like I see it.

Thankyou AlicenWonderland. I didn't realize something like this required explaining to GRUN.

I'll add couple bits about Mexicans, at least in my area.

Mexicans are literally all about their cars. They will pimp out their ride and let their home rot into the ground. These cars aren't necessarily nice cars, they'll pimp out anything, even a Honda Civic.

Mexicans like to pack the entire family (the entire EXTENDED family) into a tiny little vehicle. The same one I mentioned above.

Mexicans in general just have waaaay more respect for their families than white people do. I mean its at a level approaching how much the Japanese respect their families.

Mexicans do NOT use checks, credit cards, or anything other than cash. I think this has something to do with a mistrust of banks, which for quite some time were very untrustworthy in Mexico. I'm not sure if its still like that or not, but I know this actually stems from an understandable source. They carry around wads of $100 bills because they cash their entire paycheck and don't deposit anything into a savings account. Then they pay you with this money @ 8:00am when the store opens for a $15 package of huggies or whatever and completely drain your change drawer :p.

Mexicans are a lot more loyal with the friends they have. White people will go and backstab their friends, then just write it off as a joke. The other person eventually just gets over it, and they are back to being friends forever. Mexicans on the other hand would rather be caught dead than saying anything bad about their friends, backstabbing, whatever. They are just a lot more respectful people in general - for friends & family. They can be pretty cruel to anyone else :).

Hi. You weren't who I was talking to.

The things you mentioned are hella stereotypical, but more importantly, are pretty superficial. Maybe you weren't paying attention to the thread before my last post. I know it's hard to read past my stunning display of wisdom, but there's a lot that you missed! Therefore, thanks for everything, but the topic isn't "black people walk this way while white people walk this way" but "black people have different culture that makes marrying them something you should be CAREFUL about". Your post boils down to foods and sports.

And, well, I didn't want to say anything but since you brought it up, you hate New Orleans and little baby inuits.

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It must be nice where you usually chat, when you can say stupid things and not expect to back them up.

Your list boils down to thick wallets. The only thing from either of the posts I see affecting a relationship is this spic loyalty you speak of. So, uh, that's one. Got anything more that would make newlyweds cautious about their cultural differences?

Also, um, you guys realize that white people are huge enormous fags about cars too, right? Or have you never heard of H2s and convertibles. Jesus christ. Although you're both right in a way - nigs and spics like cars! - there is also the fact that America is very big on cars, almost like it's part of the culture or something.

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This gets fucking funnier the more I think about it. Fucking cars. Do you forget that there's some states built up around the automotive industry? Did you guys forget that that industry basically destroyed our economy back last century? The midlife-crisis convertible? The penis-compensating trucks? Maybe you don't know - this is part of the culture around here, and I hear more white people say it than black people but that's because I have no black friends - but "if you don't buy from [whichever of the big three you work for], you deserve to be downsized" is actual rationale that people actually spout in real-world situations.

Did you forget how many white boys have their senior pictures taken with their car? The sweet sixteen birthday car rich daddies buy their little girls?

JESUS

Fucking car worship as a cultural difference you illiterate niggers.

Since when do I need a personal invitation to speak? I didn't realize this was a private conversation between the two of you. If it is, maybe you should take your conversation into AIM. You asked about cultural differences and I gave you examples.

I can think of many, many more, but I figured that was enough to get my point across. And did I ever say any of the differences were earth-shattering? They don't have to be major differences to be differences. But get enough minor conflicts in your relationship and stand back and watch in amazement at how much havoc they wreak.

My original point in this thread was to say that I don't personally think anything is wrong with interracial couples, and I stand by that. But don't pretend that there aren't cultural differences between people of different races, because that's just silly.

That's true, which is why I probably would not marry or seriously date someone from another country. I don't care what color their skin is.

Wow, you know, since google results are just the final factual basis for everything, I'm totally speechless. I'm not even sure how those could possibly even be considered relevant. You ever heard of the phrase "Correlation does not imply causation?" If you haven't, don't worry about it, because it doesn't really apply here. What applies here I think is "Dumbfuck statisitics mean shit."

In recap:
EDIT -> You have a pretty narrow view of personality if all you can see relating to that aspect of culture in what me & alice posted was Mexican loyalty. Maybe what all this just boils down to is your own bigoted racism.

And what was your point, that black people walk this way and white people walk this way? We've seen Chris Rock, we already know that. No one cares if you want to open your maw somewhere, but we're really just talking about how cultural differences between races in the same location can hinder a relationship. I don't know how c-walking will do this, but then again, I don't hate New Orleans or baby inuits.

See SCHNEE-5 and Yamamanama for further details. The differences are so minute, unless if you live in a pretty segregated community or something, which I guess you would. :(

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I'm sorry I melted your mind.

Wait, I'm lying.

fucking CAR WORSHIP as something whites don't participate in in America

I mean jesus

Bush The Untouchable's popularity ratings only started going down when gas prices started going up at the pump, must be a lot of irate blackicans out there :bobofrowny:

oh, now I get it

that's why the illegal immigrants are being rounded up now

Alice, I'm curious, how many black people have you honest to god became very close with outside of the internet as the only communication medium? Not in a sexual way either, but in a way that far exceeds casual acquaintanceship?

So many exciting things Alice has just absolutely sworn off doing. I'd take niki over, say, Minion anyday, but maybe that's just me. =p

A Luker:

From AliceNWondrland's post he stated this was in regards to his area. You're basically trying to give an argument on existence when there may not even be an individual in his area that doesn't satisfy his criteria above. I'm not saying that the chances of him being correct are 100%, but you cannot say that he is stereotyping in regards to his area if you do not live there. If his remarks were relative to the whole African American and Caucasian race, then I would certainly believe you since his criteria has been disproven many of times. To imply, however, that its a true fact for every sample of the african american and white population is something that I don't think many of people would find convincing.

As far as interracial dating goes,

If two human beings from a particular race can reproduce offspring, then nature tells us that nothing is wrong with it for anyone. However, human culture is another story and many families of many cultures are not fond of interracial dating.

I personally date women of all races. Human is human, and that is the bottomline for me.

Do you reckon the whites in his area don't fellate cars?

http://www.blackstonelimo.com/images/h2/tunnelh2.jpg

What's wrong with saying "I don't think either of you are entirely right, but neither of you are entirely wrong either"? Not intellectual enough?

also: alice is a dude

On topic, I have no problem with interracial couples. Despite from some of the difficulties that may arise culturally with the family, I think there are many positive attributes to interracial dating.

I am in an interracial relationship. I am caucasian, and my girlfriend is Korean. I love her more than I can say, but the two of us are having a hard time because her parents are not happy with the idea of her dating me. She says they like me, just not the fact that I am white and that they see problems for us down the road and would rather us end it now rather than facing problems later. (I have met them by-the-way) Unfortunately, they are very traditional and do not put much weight in her decisions, they feel that they should make the decision for her.

Because we are a great distance from each other for the summer, and the fact that it is very difficult for us to communicate, our relationship is stressed right now, especially for her. She has a difficult time because she is trapped at home with her born-in-Korea parents jamming their views down her throat.

I would say our relationship is great when we are alone, and we both love each other, but the external pressure her family puts on her really stresses our relationship when they are involved. I am trying my best to help her make it through this, because I really don't want to lose her. But despite these problems, I think interracial dating is just fine, and I have learned alot about Korean culture from her. I am learning the language as well. : )

See, this is bullshit. A lot of people seem to be comfortable saying that there will be un-named problems due to cultural/racial differences, but how many are willing to actually list these?

"There are or will be problems due to cultural differences."
"Oh, well, what are they so that we can plan for and face these issues?"
"Can't tell you. Just trust me, BIG problems."

Oh, except for the already listed desire for fried chicken and cars. I mean, who wouldn't see irreconcilable differences in how to eat chicken? :rolleyes:

That has more to do with her families country of origin than her race. Many countries frown upon dating/marriage outside of their own kind (particularly the older generations). The Finnish for example want their children (at least the families I have met) to marry another Finnish person, it is looked down upon to marry outside of their little white gene pool. The people of Iraq are another example of this, interracial marriage is almost unheard of there. If you go to any country were there are very few minorities this will more than likely be the case.

However this is America, one big melting pot. If you feel that you can't be with someone because their "culture" is different than yours I suggest that you expect to be alone for a long fucking time. There are cultural difference just between the different states, (i.e. down south, up north, east coast, west coast). If this shit bothers you then you go back to marrying your cousins.

You've never met a true Italian, have you?

This thread is extremely interesting to me because nearly every single person posting to it is one hundred percent supportive of interracial relationships, but my entire town (everyone within a five mile radius, about) is passionately opposed to it. My neighborhood is completely white. The surrounding area, however, is Queens, New York, and you don't really find more of a mixture of races and cultures anywhere else.

I am personally not opposed to interracial couples. Three years ago, when it was much less common, I might have stared for a minute, but nowadays they're so commonplace that it doesn't phase me at all. I was, however, raised in a very narrow-minded white neighborhood. in a tight-knit family with old-fashioned values - purity being a very important one. In short, if I ever fell in love with someone who wasn't white, my father and grandfather probably wouldn't show up to the wedding. Because of the repercussion I'd suffer with the family, and the value I've come to place on cultural integrity (in my case, Italian) in America, I cannot see myself, personally, in a relationship with someone from another race, but I have no problem with people who can. Kudos to them for jumping over the social barriers and finding happiness.

It's amazing how the other Italians think they are Italian, with or without your respect.

3 years? I find it pretty interesting that New York has only recently seen an increase in such relationships. It's been common as dirt in my nearest city for a very long time. Are you sure it's not just that you are seeing more of the world, or at least noticing things more for what they are rather then the stories you were fed from a racist upbringing?

Coming from a traditional southern black family, my background is very old school and this bothers me somewhat considering I'm something of the odd man out among family members. So things that were once considered taboo by them I dont really blink an eye at. A good example of this:

just the other day my mother called me a week or so ago and said on the phone something to the effect "Did you know that your cousin was pregnant by some white man that she's been dating who works in a grocery store?" the tone of voice when she asked this question was something of awkward revolt, shock, and morbid curiosity as if the girl had just had sex with a string of men all at once and suddenly became pregnant with a cluster of mixed babies.

i casually replied that it didnt shock me as both her and her sister have always had the hots for white guys since high school. So i just shrugged it off. this simply garnered a response of "oh" and the conversation ended there.

I dont really have any qualms at all about dating outside my race. Its my family's views that ultimately would turn it into a 3 ring circus though which is actually somewhat depressing. :(

The estimate of three years was inaccurate, please pardon my poor perception of time. I went to a high school of which the population was around 20% white, and I've had plenty of exposure.

There's a difference between "racist" and "not seeking an interracial relationship." If I were racist, my best friends wouldn't be Indian and Japanese. Which they are. True, I was brought up in a household/town where interracial marriage is strongly discouraged, but compared to the people I was raised around, I am pretty open-minded. When you grow up in such a strict environment, though, it takes a while for your values to change, and I've made some progress in the past few years. Five years from now I might be eating my words and dating somebody of a different race, regardless of what my family thinks. But this is where I stand right now. I currently like my family enough to stick to white guys.

As far as purity is concerned, I think I put out the wrong idea on why/how much I care about it. A) I don't have anything against people of mixed races, and B) I don't mean to say "if you're not white then you're no good." If I sounded that way, I apologize. All I was trying to say was that if your family has maintained a pure lineage since coming to America, no matter where you came from - be it Japan, India, Africa, Mexico, etc. - then go you. That's cool just because it's so rare in this country nowadays. It's not so much a value, like I misphrased it, but rather, a simple feature that would be fun to keep if you could.

Now to sum up. I am not against interracial relationships. I am not racist. I just know it would be very hard to make one work out in my personal life, because of all the problems it would cause later.

Out of curiousity, are you equating "true" Italian with being involved in the mob?

Never said you were racist. Just that you come from a racist upbringing. The views you expressed I took to be those of your neighbourhood/family.

Indeed there is. Just as there is a difference between discouraging a thing, not choosing to partake in said thing. If your neighbourhood discourages it, that is racist.

You also bring up the 'white' race issue again. I mean, Italians can be quite different than say, Germans, etc. Would your neighbourhood take issue with these relationships, or only those where it is a non-white involved? What about dark skinned Italians with light skinned Italians?

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What has she ever done to warrant such disrespect?

Ha. No.

Well, that's definitely the attitude of the neighborhood in general. They can be pretty disgusting.

They pretty much draw the line at non-white.

I agree with you. People need to stop worrying about others do and who they date or marry. Complaining about it won't stop it or slow it down.

I don't mind at all, if more than likely I encourage it :). Love is love and thats what kept ya together right? If parents get in the way, then don't let them deterr who you really love.

My friend was going out with a black guy for a while. She got shit off all of his friends when she tried to be with him and get to know his friends. She even told me people looked at them in disgust when they walked down the street together, I just find that sickening. I don't mind interracial couples whatsoever, people are people no matter what colour their skin is.

They are fine by me

I don't see any problem with it. Besides, I thought people would be over it by now; now everyone's up in arms about gay couples (something else that I have no problem with).
Why the hell do people insist on making other people's relationships their business? And why not focus on other aspects, i.e. is this person nice or a bitch? Personality is way more important than race.

Racism is a stupid thing that only stupid people have inside their peanut-sized brains... Okay, a white guy dates a black girl or vice-versa... so what? The color of the skin is different, so what???? We're all the same, dammit!

When you fall in love with someone, you don't fall in love with him/her because of the color of the skin... you fall in love with the person as a whole. His/her ethnical origins really does not matter...

Serious atrocities have been commited throughout human History because of racial discrimination... nazism, African apartheid, US apartheid... can't we learn from the mistakes of the past?


Quoting my great-grandfather (rest in peace, man...): "Racial discrimination is a serious lack of intelligence."

open dialog is always the promise of understanding

I think that inter-racial couples tend to be awfully serious about the fact that they're inter-racial. I think that it would be nice to be able to stare without having a ton of angry people jump down my throat about being intolerant. Maybe they just looked neat.

Less intolerant and more rude, don't you agree?

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More apt: I see what you did there.

But being crass isn't some sort of abject moral failure like racism is!

The only difference is by degrees. You're still an unsightly person either way.

To be honest, I'm rather disappointed that there aren't more interracial couples. It disappoints me how stupid people can be regarding cross-racial dating. And frankly, I hate the term race. We're one species, plain and simple. I believe that potentially, one day, there won't be any racially defining characteristics because we'll have cross-bred so much that we all bear the same physical features (with minor differences in individual people, hair color, face and body type, et al...). I wager we'll all, for the most part, be rather beautiful.

I honestly don't have a preference regarding race. All the girls I've dated have been caucasian, usually of irish or german heritage. I'm a 1/2 norwegian 1/4 japanese 1/4 irish mix myself. However I do find asian and black (I feel really uncomfortable saying that, but the term "african-american" is more uncomfortable for me for some reason) women to be very attractive. I suppose it's the exotic look, the shade of the skin, the eyes, the dark hair, etc etc. But that's just me.

Being that I'm in an inter-racial relationship (I'm white, she's Hispanic), I can't say I have any problem with them. My woman isn't the stereotypical Hispanic woman, but I'm not the stereotypical white guy (at least around here), either.

As it's been said, the biggest "obstacle" is the cultural/personality differences. I've seen many physically attractive black women that I'd never speak (unless it were absolutely necessary) to simply because our personalities wouldn't mesh.

When it comes to white girls and black guys, I think it's the taboo of doing it that makes it so attractive. Black guys are usually more confident and carefree than whities, too. I think black men who date white girls typically do it because of this (but in the opposite light), too. Kinda like stickin' it to "da man".

What's with all of you who are equating "relationship" with love? A lot of the defensive people involved in such relationships are defensive because they're just fleeting fuck-buddies. Are all of you guys saying that it's not ok to lust after big, black dicks or tiny, white buttholes?

You wouldn't be the only one who stares. My fiance and I get that all the time...

Seriously, the point I was trying to get at was that it may be the insecurities of the people within the relationship that causes them to consider otherwise completely innocuous glances and looks as disgusted or condemning.

Also, if they were disgusted or condemning, it might be for other reasons entirely. To start, how would they even know you were in a relationship unless you were performing some kind of public display of affection, which, in various degrees, is disgusting to everyone but the participants.

lurker: this is my apology for being an incompetent troll. We all lapse right? :(

I am white and my boyfriend is Vietnamese/Chinese. No one gives us any problems. A few have looked but probably just to look at us as people, not in a disgusted way because we are inter-racial. Maybe they think we look cool together.

I love him and couldn't care less what people actually thought of the relationship. It isn't their business anyways and their opinion means nothing to me.

I say beauty and love have nothing to do with rce. Some will dissagree but beauty Is beauty nomatter what race. Also if you truly love someone race is most likely the last reason why. Thats just what I believe.

My view on interracial dating may be seen as one that is totally objective, but I think there is nothing wrong there, speaking from experience. I'm a black guy and I'm dating a girl who's white. I think it's actually quite common to see, and I like seeing other couples that are interracial. It makes me happy.

I don't have any problems with it personally, and neither does my father. He said if I wanted to date women of other ethnicity, it's fine with him (I'm Chinese, by the way). My mother thinks otherwise though. ;P

I've seen a few interracial couples here on campus, but it's still heavily skewed.

I have no problem with it. my father does though, even though he denies it.

love is love~

In reference to the automobile industry...

I know it's way late in the discussion here, but I was wondering if you could elaborate on that a little bit.

Once I had to spend the night in a hospital in San Antonio, TX. The next day I was watching HBO at a hotel all drugged up from the night before. I watched that movie, Fools Rush In with Matthew Perry and Salma Hayek. Because I was kinda fucked up, instead of watching the movie as a romantic comedy, I looked at it as an illustrations of the hardships of interracial relationships due to extreme differences in culture. I think that as long as both people are coming from a similar frame of reference, or are ready to fully embrace another culture and incorporate it into the plan for their life, then interracial relationships can be awesome. For the most part though, from my own experience, interracial relationships have a short life span. Basically, a good deal of interracial relationships are just an excuse to try out sex with a person of a different race.

I've been in an interracial relationship for over two years now, so I'm certainly fine with it. And I don't see why anyone else wouldn't be fine with it, no one is forcing them to be in our relationship.

Neither of us have received any heat for being in an interracial relationship, which is good. My family loves her, and her family loves me, and our friends have never found anything wrong with it or said anything, so I'm glad we have good families and friends.

Inter-racial couples are fine. I dated a puerto rican for six years, but i probably wouldn't do that again. I'm not really attracted to many people who aren't the same race as me.

Forgive me for not reading most of the thread but...

My dad seems to be rather racist. Well, not racist, but he keeps on telling me how I should go off and find a Chinese girlfriend (I am Chinese), because they might be somehow superior.

I know that in general, the world seems to think that inter-racial relationships are bad and racism is fine (even though no single person will admit it to another). If people look different, then they are different, in that sense - so even though it's not a well-reasoned stance, I guess it's explained (justified, perhaps not).

I know it's not exactly adding much to the discussion, but I really do wish people would categorise humans on other grounds, if at all.

I guess things aren't looking good for a Chinese guy stranded in the UK. Of course, I'd be totally out of place if I went back to Asia. So I guess I'm not really meant to be anywhere at all...

Ive the opinion thats interracial couples are not a good thing. I prefer heterogenity over homogenity. When every people and races mix, what will be the product? A plain mix without ancient history, without a deep-going culture. And this mordern "urbanic-zeigeist-multiculturalist"-crap is no real culture for me, sorry. Mix ten different colors into a bottle, and the product will be....yes...guess what....

Furthermore, I dont find men of other races aesthetical. Im not attracted to them - and that is not a decision I made, its natural.

But everyone as he or she likes...its just MY opinion, no matter what other say. So dont even mind to piss me of because of my opinion.

And have a look to the baby of Heidi Klum and Seal...isnt he...:eyebrow:

Do you have any concept of how culture is relinquish from one generation to another and why? Do you have any idea how "culture" functions? O.o;; Just because a group of people is consist of intermix "races" that doesn't mean they wouldn't have meaningful "culture" or "history". Secondly, the premise of multiculturalism is essentially keeping different cultures Separate, instead of integration or assimilation in other type of social models.

I thought I'd never date outside of my race, and for no particular reason either. Probably because I live in whitebread America. But then I dated an Indian (read: from India), and found that actually dating someone of a different race helped me overcome any inhibitions I previously held about how dating might be "different" depending on race. I think I was mostly worried about how my conservate relatives would be. I remember my parents used to study with a church that said God doesn't like it when you date someone from a different race, but it's not exactly a sin so it's tolerated if you do. Surprisingly enough, all my relatives were fine with it. There wasn't any mention of her race at all, really.

Though, I also think those inhibitions I had were also partly due to a sneaky kind of racism that I was trying to ignore, and I'm glad to be rid of it.

het·er·o·ge·ne·ous
adj.
1. also het·er·og·e·nous: Consisting of dissimilar elements or parts; not homogeneous. See Synonyms at miscellaneous.
2. Completely different; incongruous.

ho·mo·ge·ne·ous
adj.
1. Of the same or similar nature or kind: “a tight-knit, homogeneous society” (James Fallows).
2. Uniform in structure or composition throughout.
3. Mathematics. Consisting of terms of the same degree or elements of the same dimension.

what now

Not "what now!", all is correct.

Guess what? I want to see Blacks, Whites, Mestizos, Asians...and so on...in 10.000 years, too. Thats all. The world would be boring with a well-mixed mono-race.

Thats heterogenity.

No it's not.

You're really stupid, aren't you?

Actually, wouldn't everyone's culture and heritage become more enriched because they have multiple cultural influences to draw from? From the way that the world looks now, I find it hard to believe that the entire planet is going to fall into a One World Order and do everything the same, there's just too many cultural differences, religious beliefs, and personal attitudes unless something very weird happens.

I do see why you want to still see a variety of races centuries from now since it does give them a form of individuality and variety makes everything less boring. However, there are some positives to mixing different races together such as avoidance of interbreeding, creating a stronger immune system, and the inheritance of traits that could help strengthen the gene pool.

Also, I love Seal's music, but Seal isn't exactly the most attractive guy out there (no offense), and it may surprise some people to realize how many people within Hollywood are of a mixed race, yet they are considered to be some of the most beautiful men and women.

I hear you. I don't know what's got the others so confused. You and I both know that if people look the same, then they'll be the same and enjoy the same culture as one another. I mean, if I were to find me in north america, someone that looks like me in the middle east, someone who looks like me in east asia, someone that looks like me in Africa, and someone that looks like me in Australia, we'd all be pretty close to the same background.

I mean, culture isn't based on regions and bloodlines right? :eyebrow:

I really don't understand why having an interracial-relationship is still an issue in modern society. The topic's been explored, attacked, and condoned to death. A person who still looks negatively upon it is really a nuisance as far as I'm concerned.

Oh and Bloodrayne, if your only gripe with interracial-relationships is the "IMPENDING DOOM OF ONLY ONE GLOBAL HOMOGENIZED RACE" thing, then I really don't think you need to worry. There are plenty of "purists" (such as what seems like yourself) who'll make sure that this "tragic loss of diversity and different cultures" won't happen. Even though preserving diversity is probebly the least of their concerns.

Considering I do prefer Asian women over any other race (Hi guys, this is me asking to be flamed.), the whole interracial thing is kind of an matter of concern. Especially since a lot of Asian girls, in New York at least, really only like white guys or asian guys or don't date at all, which is a problem for me I guess. Of course, if I came across a black girl or spanish girl that I liked a lot, I would go for it; I had a crush on a black girl a few years ago. I still know her now and she's a great person. Its just that what these races make themselves into just isn't desirable personality-wise for me.

White girls have to be really special for me to consider dating them. To me, a lot of them look like men and that's a problem. There are nice white chicks, just a lot of them are snotty bitches here.

The same as sassafrass, everyone should live its own life i dont try to interfere in others. Now this world is hell.

Hmm for everytime I see a black+white couple, I get a little more hopeful that there's a chance for me. It is just 2 different races but still opposite genders, what is there to stop anything from clicking?

I've always wanted to date a black women. Blackanese children are hot.

I'm asian although I am very open minded towards dating women of different races. Interacial dating allows for a healthy exchange of culture and helps promote acceptance. Having dated interacially, there are a lot of obstacles to overcome, especially if the other's parents are immigrants or ethnophiles, however love is love. As for other people, I could care less what they thought. Its my choice and they should respect it. Of course there will be people who don't like the sight of an asian man with a girl or a different race (i've gotten that before), but interacial couples is a sight they will have to get used to because the world is becoming more and more of a cultural and racial melting pot.

My cousin's the cutest little kid who looks asian but has gorgeous curly hair and nice tan skin. Most people actually mistake him for being fully asian, if his dad takes him around they'll ask if he was adopted :p

Besides finding a person that is just as open minded as you are, you have to see if their parents feel the same way too. I know a lot of couples that are not from the same background, but even though both sides accept it, there is still a bit of tension from the families.

My parents hate interracial dating. Even though they're a result of European and Cherokee descent, they look down on anyone that dates outside their race. They won't protest it, but they're not happy about it. So I know if I were to date someone that wasn't white (or a light skinned American Indian mix) then I wouldn't hear the end of it. Even though I find Asian/American Indian/Hispanic men to be more attractive b/c of the eyes. It won't restrict me from dating them, but the guy would have to be comfortable not meeting my parents.

Oh well. I guess thats part of the "obstacles" I was talking about.

I can dig that. :edgarrock:

Personally, I have no problem with interracial couples. If both parties are okay with it, what else should matter? I think that most couples like that are perfectly aware of the challenges they'll face (i.e. having a biracial kid, their families's opinions, etc.)

And to my experience, biracials are some of the most culturally aware people because it's an issue thrown in their face all the freaking time.

Overall, I think the problem is because people aren't nearly as open-minded as they claim to be. A lot of people are "okay" with the notion of interracial dating as long as it's someone else, or someone not related to them (because they're racists in denial).

And then there's confusion about remembering your background. Stuff like "remember your fucking CHINESE ROOTS" or "wtf you sellout what about BLACK POWER". Cultural awareness is NOT living and breathing "this is what my ancestors are and what they went through so I'll have to be bound to these ideals FOR THE REST OF MY FREAKING LIFE." But to a lot of people anything less is being ignorant of where you came from.

I really don't care about interracial relationships. If two people want to go out, then so be it. We're not trapped in history here. It's not like we're conditioned to go out with people of the same race. If people can't get over the skin colour of someone, they need to fast forward to the future. It would be like race over love. Contrasting religions? That's a different story, but it's still none of my or anybody else's business.

I guess it all depends on where you are and how the people were raised. If you come to Toronto you'll find nothing but interracial couples. So many beautiful females from each race... why limit yourself.

I think we all tend to forget that the cradle of humankind is the same for all of us, in fact, our species was born in ethiopia... so I believe racism has no reason to be as we basically all belong to the same place, we all have a common history, a common past no matter our physical differences...

I really cant believe anyone would still care about interracial couples ;(

Im pretty much a mutt genetically, and I have it on very good authority (hobo) that Ive got great legs so case closed.

This thread gave me some google ads to Biracial tees! Thanks internet!

I generally find black oops I mean "African American" and west-Asian girls unattractive . Other than that, I don't care. My girlfriend is Korean but she was adopted by white parents and is probably whiter than I am in behaviour.

I don't care about interracial relationships. Why should I? I'm totally cool with somebody dating or marrying someone of another race.
On the other hand, I don't buy into some bullshit suggesting that being in an interracial relationship benefits the human race and that when everyone's the same race we'll reach some zenith of understanding and peace. Be with who you want to be with and don't make yourself out to be some sort of hero. You're not a better human being just because you're fucking a hispanic girl, or an asian man.

Personally, I'm attracted to some races and not to others. I do not find black women attractive. I can discern attractive features in those that have them, certainly, but I never feel that overwhelming, true sense of attraction that I get with other women. There are exceptions, but it's very rare. This isn't a conscious decision. It's what I'm instinctively attracted to.
Meanwhile, I've noticed that a great many black women seem to be interested in me. One friend, who does a terrible job at denying her affection toward me, is in an interracial relationship with another white guy. Luckily she seems enamoured enough with him that she's forgotten me. And I'm fine with them dating, of course.
In general, I'm hit on probably twice as much by black girls than by white girls. Which is taking into account that black people compose only 12% of the American population.

I'm attracted to plenty of women in other races: Hispanics, Asians, Arabics, Eastern Europeans, Russian, etc. I'm seldom attracted to Indian women (not Native American, but Indian).
Women of European descent (mixed nationalities or pure ones) are who attract me most, though. And I'm very picky when it comes to women (maybe one in a hundred I deem worth pursuing for a relationship), but I'm mostly attracted to them. This is taking into account the fact that they compose the majority of the population I live in. If I spent a year in Japan I'm sure that would change somewhat.

I'm mixed European: Danish, Swedish, Irish or English (unsure), some German, and Greek. I also have some Cherokee ancestors. Out of those, I'm mostly Greek, though. People are always surprised when they hear this, because I have blond hair and rather fair skin, but it's the truth. It doesn't occur to them that Greeks have more features than dark hair and olive skin (which is only applicable to some Greeks, anyway; common misconception people have of Italians, too).
I like being multi-cultured, sure. If I were pure German, I'd probably like that fine. Having a diverse racial background isn't a pro or a con, it just is. Take pride in what you are and what you want. It's foolish to think otherwise.

(Also, I've known just as many beautiful mixed children as I do ugly mixed children. Just like I've known just as many beautiful children of one race as I do ugly children of one race.)

I recently had to read a short story by Tobias Wolff named Say Yes. The argument in the story is about interracial marriage. And although my thoughts on the story have little to do with this topic, the story itself does.

Holy dammit, Tobias Wolff. He's a fucking excellent writer, I love his stuff. I've only read two of his short stories ("Bullet in the Brain" and "Hunters in the Snow"), but they're some of the best I've read.
Shall read this after I finish my work for the night. Thanks.

I'm down with interracial dating. In fact, my girlfriend is Mexican. However her skin is lighter compared to the rest of her family, so unless she tans, most people will assume she's white unless otherwise noted. However I do know the differences and in fact love the Mexican culture. It's been around me for nearly all my life, so it feels natural too me.

I've never understood racial purity, but that might be because I don't also have a single cultural background to latch onto. I just pick and choose what I want. Or it could be the fact that I wasn't raised to be racist. I'm very much against racism, and do get pissed off at it.

Either way, interracial dating won't destroy the world, nor world cultures. The world itself is too vast and humans tend to migrate towards cliques. Even in small communities, differences pop up, and people with similar tastes will gravitate towards one another. Even if a whole one world culture were to happen, it wouldn't happen any time soon.

Interracial dating is really something I do not mind. Being white myself, I was suprised recently when I looked back and realized that all of my girlfriends were Asian up until recently. Personally...I think it is the fact that most of the white girls at my school are completely stupid, and this is further proven by the fact that my current girlfriend is white, but from a different school.

Although...recently I have been thinking that maybe she is not too smart after all. *points to his last Chocojournal entry*

I dated a black girl for about a year my senior year of highschool.

I caught a bunch of shit for it from my friends at first, it being "da south" and all, but I honestly didnt even think "hey, im dating a black girl."

We worked together and got along really well. I asked her out on a date, and it was smooth sailing from there. I just thought of her as a great person, and the fact that other people made it difficult for us sometimes, only made us love each other more.

We decided to break it off when she left for college. We still keep in touch.

So I guess im really not that concerned about race when it comes to dating. Do what makes you happy and dont worry about anyone else.

It's fine, people are just narrow-minded. Takes a while to kick in.

i guess its cause people have a mindset..not only does it matter that they are going out with someone but the people around them really can change their minds about the whole relationship if they're not taking the relationship seriously

I can't see how any rational person could have a problem with interracial couples; but then I did lose my virginity to a black girl.