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zzeroparticle May 3, 2006 03:58 AM

Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni
 
Seeing that the other thread was locked up by Blah, here's my attempt at promoting this series for great justice.

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The story opens off with a really bizarre scene where someone is bludgeoning/chopping someone up and provides a very intriguing start and lays the foundation for the events that will transpire in Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni.

After the flashy, kaleidoscope introduction finishes, you're introduced to the main character: Keiichi Maehara (left), a kid who has just moved into the village of Hinamizawa and his next door neighbor: Rena Ryuguu (right).

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Other characters in this series who quickly becomes friends with Keiichi include an upperclassman, Mion Sonozaki (left), and two underclassmen (right), Satoko (blonde hair) and Rena (blue hair)

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Hinamizawa is located in a rural area, and looks like your run-of-the-mill quiet country village. Like most run-of-the-millcountry villages in horror/mystery flicks, Hinamizawa harbors a chilling secret. We get some signs of this when Keiichi meets with Tomitake, a freelance photographer who seems affable enough. However, when Keiichi makes a joke, Tomitake turns serious and he comments which hints that things may not be as they seem in Hinamizawa... something that occurred when the government tried to build a dam in the village.

When Keiichi brings the subject up with Mion, Mion denies that anything happened in the village aside from the townsfolk successfully preventing the construction of the dam which would have destroyed their homes. But there's a pause in her speech... suspicions are raised and the plot slowly thickens...

Aside from the serious plot moments, the first episode contains a lot of comic relief, shown in the scenes at school between Rena, Keiichi, and Mion. There's also the luncheon at the Furude Shrine, later on in the episode, but nothing hits the comedy home as much as the scene where Keiichi, Mion, Rena, Satoko, and Rika play a game of Jijinuki where the person who places first can do something to the person in last place. It's pretty easy to tell just how screwed Keiichi is going to be:

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Thoughts after Episode 1: The animation and art style definitely aren't what I was expecting from a series described by ANN as a horror/mystery flick since everything seems so cute and chibi-ish. Despite the quality of the animation/artwork, the premise to the story is most excellent and one that I hope can sustain itself through its entire run-time. The story, combined with a soundtrack by Kenji Kawai makes this series extremely promising, and one that must be watched. Besides, I haven't had a good horror series to watch in quite some time so this should suffice that thirst.

Right now, I'm watching Triad's subs and they're pretty reliable as far as subbing goes. I'll probably make more comments as I see more beyond just the first episode.

Torrent Links
Episode 1
Episode 2
Episode 3

ms-07 May 3, 2006 06:36 AM

About time there's a thread for this, it's arguably the best show this season.

The first 4 episodes have been seriously creepy. And ep4 had some of the most fucked up stuff i've seen so early in a show. I haven't checked ep 5 RAW yet, but it either goes to a flashback or even "groundhog day" (keep on restarting till he gets it right). It would make sense to do that.

The opening and ending videos are some of the best this season.

CuteChocobo May 3, 2006 09:02 AM

Hmmm... haven't see it yet, but from hearing the review by zzero, it sounds good ^ ^

Might give this a go, thanks for sharing the light on this series!

FatsDomino May 4, 2006 11:40 AM

I watched the first four episodes yesterday...

Spoiler:
All of the main cast members are dead. I was laughing my ass off at the end of episode four. Seriously, this is freaking awesome. If they do a groundhog day i.e. game is over, restart play this is going to be pretty sweet. Also, it'll be great if they can continue to kill of the characters as easily as they did.


Music by Kenji Kawai? This series is perfect now.

Spatula May 8, 2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit
Music by Kenji Kawai? This series is perfect now.

That name caught my eye, okay, it's on the "100% Sure I'll check it out" list. His music rarely never disappoints.

StarCrossedSoul May 21, 2006 11:52 PM

This is an amazing piece of madness, since the design for characters are customly meant for anything except what goes on in this place.
Truly I find it up to now quite enjoyable, plus the opening and ending songs are a perfect fit.
I have a question though, after watching the fifth.
Spoiler:
So will the story repeat itself from different angles/perspectives, or will different cases with the same characters take place?

zzeroparticle May 22, 2006 12:13 AM

As far as I know, the story will take it from different angles and reveal clues slowly. The differences will primarily be the backdrop which will then lead up to the events that will transpire at the festival and subsequently to some sort of tragedy like what happened at the end of episode 4. Think of it as like a video game where you start over and over and because of some decision you make, it leads to a totally different outcome.

It's a fun mystery to be sure and that alone has kept me hooked to the series. The creepout factor is also very nicely done.

zzeroparticle May 28, 2006 02:19 AM

HOLY SHIT!!! Did anyone watch episode 8 of this series yet? That's some of the most messed up scenes I've seen in quite some time. I don't think I could've asked for a better finale.

Spoiler:
The confession scene where Mion goes and admits everything was pretty well done. However, the highlight was definitely the torture room scene where you see:

1) Shion (could it actually be Mion?) locked up in the cell, her nerves just completely shot and you see that she's lost her mind and going nuts.
2) Keiichi straped to a board with Mion standing over him and basically declaring flat-out that she's going to hammer 15 nails in each of his hands; his fingers and joints.

Craziness and mental instability have never been better-presented with a good dose of creepiness and suspense thrown in, especially when she pops back in at the end to deliver the final blow.

Now a whole bunch of mysteries are in store. The whole deal with the nurse being dead before the day of the Watanagashi festival is making me wonder who exactly went into the storeroom. Was the burnt-up corpse a fake or is it the real thing?

Secondly, what's the deal with Mion popping up in an attempt to kill Keiichi? Is she actually dead like Oisshi said she was and her body just possessed by the demon or is Keiichi hallucinating again? I doubt the hallucination theory because Keiichi actually seems in full control of his mind this time around.


On another note, Rena's my new favorite character in that series. Thoughtful, and observant as all hell. I really like the way she analyzes clues and reasons everything out.

Looking forwards to the next story arc.

StarCrossedSoul May 29, 2006 02:07 AM

I also agree zzeroparticle, I just saw it and for once had shivers running up and down my body, and Rena did actually have a more mature side rather than the giddy one in the first chapter.

Spoiler:

But here's where all the damn confussion happens... I had quite the conflict trying to find out whether the character was really Mion or Shion, until this chapter, I think.
I always do rantings when I'm trying to solve something.
With the phone calls; so Shion never called Keiichi then, Mion was posing as Shion the whole time, explaining the laughing and cutting him off the first time, right?
And was the woman actually a walking spirit then?

Also, why does Mion tell Keiichi about the people who defend him from the bullies, when Shion is with him, and later in the chapter meet up with Mion. Could it be that one of them never existed? Since the demon says that everything went wrong when Rena recieved the doll...

Finally, the first part where Rika stabs herself in the head... well, I don't know what to say about that one actually, but I think maybe Mion wasn't the only one at handywork.





This keeps on getting madder.
I like it. =P

3rdrocket Jun 2, 2006 09:25 PM

I joined the forums for this topic.

I cant wait for the next episode.

ms-07 Jun 6, 2006 09:41 AM

Supposely WinD lost their translator but they're trying to get ep 9 out soon. But after that it should be a rocky road ahead unless they find a replacement. Hopefully they do, I don't want to wait weeks and weeks for Triad to catch up :(

StarCrossedSoul Jun 6, 2006 05:34 PM

Those are some bad news. I hope they get the episode out, meanwhile I'll be dying here trying to find out what's going to happen next.
Triad was stalled way back on episode 4, right?

yangxu Jun 6, 2006 08:26 PM

I haven't watched it yet, can anyone recommand a fansub group to me? It seems like there are 3 groups currently subbing this series....

zzeroparticle Jun 6, 2006 09:15 PM

WinD is the furthest along with its subs. They're pretty good in terms of accuracy (with only one problematic area which they fixed in their second release of the episode; the NO BLOOD for those who know what I'm talking about) and speed at which they get their stuff out. Of course, with their translator gone, this will slow down, but hopefully the replacement is just as good as who they had before.

In any case, I do recommend watching WinD's subs.

StarCrossedSoul Jun 14, 2006 03:06 PM

Episodes 9 & 10 are already out!
Spoiler:
I was really confused with Satoko's attitude at the end of chapter 10, could it possibly be that she killed her own brother?

waynekerr Jun 15, 2006 04:37 AM

The show seems to be creating some buzz in the anime community recently. I'm watching something else at the moment but I will definately check this out next.

Keios Jun 22, 2006 05:39 AM

Only 15 posts here?! C'mon, it's Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.

Anyways, I've seen up to episode 11 and it's just getting better and better. I'm really looking forward to the end of Tatarigoroshi-hen, especially after I heard the following episodes will pretty much crush all the theories you've made up until now.

Also, for those who have not played the game (including me), there's a blogger who writes summaries of the events in the game that the anime changed or omitted. I apparently can't give a link because I don't have enough posts, but if you're interested, google for Makenai desuwayo.

StarCrossedSoul Jun 25, 2006 05:39 PM

I agree, there should be more posting, there is so much "juice" in this anime to be talked about, and I'm definitely waiting to find out what really happened in each of the parts.
Episode 12 is already out! =)

Vexe Jul 18, 2006 10:54 AM

If you think the episodes 5-8 were confusing, good luck understanding 9-13. They leave you with surprisingly many questions...>_>

Spoiler:
At the start of the episode 9, you can see some smelly bag in the water...with Satoshi's corpse. Also, the 15-nails-per-hand-torture (which has been used in episode 8) directly hints at it being a murder and not a suicide. Who killed Satoshi?

Why does Satoko go crazy when Keichi pats her at the end of epi 10?

Keichi killed Satoko's Stepfather/Grandfather/Whatever, but the next day how was he still torturing Satoko?

While Keichi was killing Satoko's Stepfather/Grandfather/Whatever, how could the girls have any memories of being with him on that festival at the same time?

What was Takano doing while Keichi was burrying the corpse, did she kill someone?

At the start of episode 13, why did Keichi turn around and say "You...could it be...Satoshi"?

Why did Satoko stay in the bath for such a long time and why was she counting up to 10,000?

Why did Dr. Irie suicide?

Who killed Rika and why?

What was the report at the end of episode 13 about, does it hint that everyone except Keichi died, does it hint at the cause of Rika's death?



Well, to be honest, this anime is still one of the best I have seen so far!

KrazyTaco Aug 22, 2006 12:00 AM

Episode 20 was just released by Wind, who are the group I'm going to be switching to. I was using Ayu, but they are way to far behind right now. Alot of stuff has happened since 13 on the last post in this thread.

Spoiler:
So apparently Mion's twin sister is the great mastermind behind the murders of all those involved with Obawhatever's curse. She was the one who killed Rika... or at least Rika commits suicide thus defaulting the victory to her >_>

Also, we now know that the whole curse thing was indeed commited by villagers, mainly the three ruling houses or whatever. There are still a few more questions that are unanswered, but I suppose those will come with the final 6 episodes.


Episode 20 has got to be the most gruesome of them all so far though >_>

zzeroparticle Aug 22, 2006 02:23 AM

I'd say that episode 8 ruled the day simply because of the sheer amount of suspense that it tacks on with Shion and what was in store for Keiichi. The series has been very gruesome all in all and I love it for all the mystery it's putting forth for the audience to tackle.

As for some of the more recent episodes, a lot of it is beginning to make more sense now. My thoughts on it are as follows:

Spoiler:
Some of the disappearances/murders are caused by the villagers early on, but there is a supernatural element at work here. I say that because Rika claims that she is able to hear Oyashiro's voice on certain occasions, and that in the story arc involving the detective, she systematically named every single character who was going to be killed as the years went by, including herself. To my knowledge, there isn't a hitlist or anything that could allow her prior knowledge to who would be killed/spirited away. Furthermore, even Shion admits to feeling a presence that's hovering around her. Could be Oyashiro, but may not be.

Also, Keiichi seems to have some weird powers of his own. I think I can safely conclude that Keiichi is overly paranoid and subject to hallucinations. He also seems to have the ability to kill people simply by naming them and demanding that the curse fall upon them.


Also, I really felt bad for Rika in episode 20 during the school scene and what happened afterwards :( More so in light of the episode when she said:

Spoiler:
that she'd forgive the "kittens" that accidentally wandered into the shrine when she and Keiichi were talking in the second story arc. During the course of that conversation, Rika said she'd try to protect the "kitten." ;_;

Bodomi Aug 23, 2006 02:29 PM

I watched the Triad's subs up to episode 9, but couldn't wait for more so I had to get the WinD's.

This anime is pretty damn cool, just saw the 10th episode.
I like the creepy setting this one has. Also like the opening music.

Lukage Aug 28, 2006 01:14 PM

Saw through Triad's episode 9. Quick "WTF:"

Episode 9 ending:
I assume that Mion's body in the well was actually Shion and that Mion ended up in the hospital?

YeOldeButchere Aug 28, 2006 06:18 PM

I really don't want to spoil anything, but don't bother making any theories about that ark. It gets "revisited" later on, but I won't say more since I feel that's one of the best surprise in the series.

TheFrenchLlama Aug 28, 2006 07:28 PM

This is, by far, one of the most fucked up, disturbing animes I have ever seen... and I love it. The story is superb... and I was hooked shortly after episode two. Shion is super moe and by far my favorite character in the series. I love the odd choice of character design, considering how serious the anime actually is. The show is filled with moe/loli girls... but everyone in that town is practically insane. The final episodes should be released within the next several weeks... and I can't wait to see the last two arcs conclude.

To be honest, a scene from episode 20, particularly a raw uploaded by a Japanese user, is what made me watch this show in the first place.

Spoiler:
I'm sure you could all guess it was the scene between Rika and the disguised Shion. Watching this clip at first, I didn't understand what was going on... and then Rika sprayed Shion in the face with some sort of spray. Now my Japanese is practically non-existent, but I did understand Shion screaming "It hurts!", which kind of urked me. Without subs, it seemed to make the intended effect more powerful. And then Rika was injected with something, only to ram her kneck repeatedly into a knife. Then... Jesus the look on Shion's face... How disturbing. ;_;

I wanted to find out what the hell was going on, so I began watching this show only a few days ago. Today I watched episode 20, and now I finally understand.

I feel sorry for Shion, despite the demon inside her driving her insane. Poor girl lost her first love to the ignorant household heads in the town... and now she is going to exact her revenge upon them. The only people caught that up that don't really belong in all this is Mion and Keiichi, but I guess when you're possessed by some demon/Oyashiro-sama/whatever you don't think clearly. Also, Shion has nice breasts. <3

Aside from episode 20, an earlier episode where Shion was forced to rip out her own fingernails made me cringe. Just thinking about ripping out fingernails, let alone doing it to yourself, gave me the chills. This show is seriously disturbing on almost every level...


Anyone have any theories on Takano-san's case? So far her story is completely shrouded in mystery. I don't even know what to think about her and how she's involved in all this.

Also, if anyone happens to have the CG set for Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, either hook me up or point me in the direction of one. That would be greatly appreciated. ^_^

Vexe Aug 29, 2006 04:30 AM

Takano-san's case?

Spoiler:
Do you mean the time where Keichi was the one to kill people? Basically, she got in his way, he wished for Oyashiro-sama to kill Takano-san, since she was the only witness. While she herself has done something too (maybe she killed that photographer?).

And if you mean why she got killed in the Shion/Mion stories...I'm starting to think there was something interesting in Oyashiro-sama's temple that they stole or saw, while Shion and Keichi did not see/take anything, so the curse did not kill them. What killed them was basically Shion's sadness of losing Satoshi. While Keichi died because he did not listen to Shion's warning (to stay away from her).

TheFrenchLlama Aug 29, 2006 04:37 PM

Vexe:

Spoiler:
I'm specifically talking about in story arc two, it was mentioned that her body was bound burned... but the Takano-san Keichi and others saw on the night of Watanagashi could not have been the real Takano-san: Takano-san was already dead by the time that happened.

YeOldeButchere Aug 29, 2006 08:48 PM

Spoiler for episode 21 (and everything before). DON'T FUCKING READ UNLESS YOU'VE WATCHED EVERYTHING SO FAR OR YOU'LL SERIOUSLY REGRET IT, GO INSANE, AND ON A MURDEROUS RAMPAGE.

Spoiler:
When they first introduced Shion, I didn't like her much, compared to Mion anyway. But with that last arc, she certainly redeemed herself! I don't like her as much as Mion, but she's certainly one fine psycho. That she was acting with absolutely no regard as to her own life, shown no remorse when torturing people, or just plain killing them, and would have actually gotten away with it if not for that tiny little thing at the end, just makes the whole thing even better. She ranks somewhere with Kimbley from Fullmetal Alchemist, another favorite in my book.

That aside, this still leaves a few questions. Who killed Keichi in the hospital? Chances are it's Shion, but how she managed to stay alive is probably a bigger enigma. Also, Takano was burned the day before they got in the storehouse, I think, so that's a bit of a problem too. Then there's the whole "Where the fuck is Satoshi?" thing, assuming Mion wasn't lying at the end. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm just going to say all three is Oyashiro-sama's fault. Satoshi got killed because of his family (with Rika, the priestess, protecting Satoko from Oyashiro-sama), Takano got killed by Oyashiro-sama for... uh... some reason or another, and the one who led Shion and Keichi in the storehouse was Oyashiro-sama taking Takano's form, and the "Shion" at the end was, again Oyashiro-sama. There. It all makes sense. More or less.

Also I'd like to reiterate just how deliciously wicked Shion was. I love Higurashi no naku koro ni.

zzeroparticle Aug 31, 2006 12:56 AM

Yes! After watching episode 21, this series has become more awesome than I could possibly imagine.

Spoiler:
I kinda knew what was already going to happen to Satoko, but I had no idea it'd be that graphic. That scene was really over the top, but totally in line with how psychotic Shion has become.

This answers a lot of the questions I had from the second arc. If I had to venture a guess as to how Keiichi actually dies in the second arc, I'm guessing that Shion appearing at the end of episode 8 was him hallucinating (remember, he does have a history of this).

Also, with the whole Oyashiro deal, there's a lot of good evidence out there to support a supernatural explanation. However, after watching episode 21, my feeling is drifting back towards a human cause. Oyashiro does probably exist, but he doesn't actually carry out any of these crimes. Humans are completely to blame

Terra Sep 11, 2006 09:27 AM

I read about this one in someone's sig, and went on to watch ep #1. I'm at #12 now. I've never been so thrilled while watching anime. It's just awesome.

KrazyTaco Sep 11, 2006 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terra
I read about this one in someone's sig

Was it FreelanceWolf's sig or my sig >_>

By the way, Episode 22 should be subbed and ready to go by Tuesday, seems to be the standard release day by Wind. I really like this last arc, and how it focuses on Rena, because Rena is the end all be all of pure awesome.

http://www.two40sevenyouth.com/Forum...inningrena.swf

Terra Sep 12, 2006 08:23 AM

Wolf's sig.

Freelance Sep 12, 2006 05:15 PM

Man, I'm stoked. I finally managed to convert someone, and I don't even know the dude. Awesome. Who would have thought avatars and sigs could be used for subliminal messaging?

Grobles87 Sep 13, 2006 12:06 PM

Actually make that 2 converted people, Freelance Wolf. The sig also got me interested in the series. I'm about to see the first 4 episodes, but from what I've read in the reviews of animenfo.com and here in GFF, it looks like one of the best series in a long time. I hope that's the case. I've been wanting to see something that's worth it. I'll write what I think when I'm done watching.

Freelance Sep 13, 2006 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grobles87
Actually make that 2 converted people, Freelance Wolf. The sig also got me interested in the series.

Yes, but did you like it? I can't really call that converting someone if they don't like it or haven't seen it!

I'm usually very picky when it comes to shows, so the fact I enjoy this one has got to count for something!

I just saw ep 23 today!

Spoiler:
2 murders! Gruesome! Awesome!

Terra Sep 14, 2006 03:49 PM

Ep. 23.

Spoiler:

Well, I saw that one coming. I wonder if Ooishi will die in the next one.

I liked how the deaths of Teppei and Rina were so graphic - even more graphic than the previous ones. Seeing her scrambled face made me cringe.

YeOldeButchere Sep 14, 2006 07:19 PM

Ep. 23

Spoiler:
Rena is more serious about this than I thought. I mean, I knew she was going to do some killing, but I never expected her to cut two corpses into small pieces and then package those into nice little bags. She certainly does a good job once she gets started on something, I have to give her that. Though I don't really understand why she didn't just leave the corpses in that fridge or hide them somewhere in the dump. If no one ever goes there, what are the chances of someone finding the corpses?

Also, I loved it when she killed that bitch. The other guy wasn't as satisfying, despite Rena finally using her iconic weapon to split his skull in two.

Terra Sep 20, 2006 04:31 PM

Ep. 24
Spoiler:

Whoa. Biological terrorism? That conversation along with the creepy music was frightening. The last image of the preview was also interesting. Was that Keiichi attacking Rena?

KrazyTaco Sep 21, 2006 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terra
Ep. 24
Spoiler:

Whoa. Biological terrorism? That conversation along with the creepy music was frightening. The last image of the preview was also interesting. Was that Keiichi attacking Rena?


Spoiler:
You say that as if people randomly attacking and killing each other in this series is uncommon >_>

Hajiki Sep 23, 2006 02:06 AM

I'm enjoying this anime quite a lot, I came across it thinking it was a cutesy love story or something but i was ather shocked at what i saw. oh yeah about those of you watching the fansubs? you may find this site to be of use. i'm currently watching the anime on here, it's on crunchyroll.com

Freelance Sep 24, 2006 07:17 PM

When Taco first told me about the premise of the show, I was highly skeptical after viewing some images in this thread. He promised me that the cute girls would get splattered in it, so I DLed some eps and now I'm converted.

There's only two more eps left. I wonder who will win...

zzeroparticle Sep 24, 2006 07:50 PM

Yeah, I couldn't show the blood splatter. That would've given things away waaay too fast ;).

Spoiler:
As far as that last image is concerned, I'm guessing it to be a mercy kill. Rena is infected with the maggots and may be growing much more berserk. I wouldn't be surprised if she wanted someone to put her out of her misery.

YeOldeButchere Sep 25, 2006 09:49 PM

Ep. 25

Spoiler:
Ok. What the hell is going on here? They start to give us what seems like answers in the last episode, but no, after all it's only the work of some conspiracy theorist. Who got killed 24 hours before she was last seen alive. And Keichi remembers the events of the first arc. And of course Rika is apparently possessed by Oyashiro-sama or whatever spirit. Oh, and did I forget that Keichi was apparently a serial killer before he moved to that village of crazies?

Would it really be that hard for the writers to give us answers?

Also, I suggest they call an exorcist for Rika. Then burn the whole place to the ground. Now I see why they wanted to build that dam and flood the place.

zzeroparticle Sep 26, 2006 12:18 AM

I don't know. It thought ep. 25 was a nice change of pace with a lot of heartfelt moments in it. I especially like the scenes where

Spoiler:
Keiichi talks to his friends about his past,

Keiichi dreams up events from the first arc and is shocked and horrified about it all,

and of course, when he gives Real Shion a hug.


Through these acts, Keiichi's pretty much been able to redeem himself of his psychopathic ways. I can only hope that he'll be able to prevent the tragedy and bring Rena back down to earth.

Terra Sep 26, 2006 02:43 PM

#25

Spoiler:

Those scrapbooks were fakes. I'm so sure of it. Also, I wonder if this Sonozaki lawyer will have a significant role.

YeOldeButchere Sep 26, 2006 03:49 PM

Ep. 25

Spoiler:
They might be fake. They might not be. At this point, the real question is, who the hell cares to take a guess? It might be parasites, alien parasites, spirits or perhaps tiny storm troopers under the control of Lord Vader, sent on the order of Emperor Palpatine himself, who received his orders from Satan Claus through the russian mafia. I'll wait until I've seen the last episode, at which point everything will either make sense or I'll simply go crazy trying to make some sense out of everything.

And no, I don't know who "Satan Claus" is either.

Freelance Sep 26, 2006 06:09 PM

Ep 25
Spoiler:

I dunno...I don't like the idea of Aliens being the ones responsible.

What I'm confused about is how this arc is connected to the first arc. Are we talking seperate dimensions here?

Just when the story is pointing strictly to a natural explanation, it suddenly turns into a supernatural explanation. I'm sure the writers are going back and forth just to confuse us and make us think it can go both ways >_>

Okay, now that we know about Keichi's evil past, I wonder if everyone in the entire village were also involved in such crimes before moving to the village. Perhaps people from outside are killing them each year for getting away with their crimes, and pinning it down to Gods and parasites.

The idea of the Underground Earth people is funny :D

I was seriously expecting some sort of vicious splatter after seeing Rena with her machete several times. Is she infected by the parasites or possessed by the stupid God?


Sosei Sep 27, 2006 05:41 AM

Ep 25
Spoiler:
The woman that was with Mion (or was it actually Shion?) and Kasai - who was she? I think she also appeared in another arc, as well. Do you think she has any relation to the Sonozaki family? Say, Mion/Shion's mother?

Also, I was expecting Rena to go to town on someone with that machete. XD She may yet...

YeOldeButchere Sep 27, 2006 04:27 PM

Ep. 25

Spoiler:
She is indeed Mion/Shion's mother. At one point one of the cops essentially confirms this by saying that the whole thing is "a personal problem between Ryuuguu Reina and your daughter".

Manny Biggz Sep 28, 2006 04:23 AM

Freelance Wolf converted me too. I stayed up all night so far watching one episode after another. Well it's 5:23 A.M, and it's time to pop in episode 7! I hope I can make it through them all before I gotta work later...

Freelance Sep 28, 2006 09:36 PM

Haha, it's nice to know my sigs are actually good for something.

There's only one episode left. I wish they'd make more : /

You guys think it will ever come out here?

Manny Biggz Sep 29, 2006 12:03 AM

Doubtful. All that child violence. I would be VERY suprised if it made it here...

Sosei Sep 29, 2006 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf
Haha, it's nice to know my sigs are actually good for something.

There's only one episode left. I wish they'd make more : /

You guys think it will ever come out here?

Actually, yeah. I don't think any networks would pick it up right off the bat, though. And even if they did, it would probably be on at some weird hour of the night to prevent 'poisoning young people's minds' or something.

edit: I don't know about Canada, but that's most likely the case for the US.

Freelance Sep 29, 2006 07:45 AM

Even if it did come here, I probably wouldn't get that channel anyway. Sucks to live in Canada. We don't get Cartoon Network and stuff.

Any chance of it just coming out on DVD here, though? I'd grab them if they did.

reikijenosaido Sep 30, 2006 01:09 PM

It will most likely get released on dvd here eventually. Geneon USA funded it and if the violence from children was a problem then we would have never had "Now and Then Here and There" or Elfen Lied.

xen0phobia Sep 30, 2006 06:30 PM

I don't understand the last part in the last episode... actually overall im confused with all of this series. Someone briefly explain it please!
Spoiler:
how many actually stories are happening in this anime. Is it all one? If so, I don't get how all of them relate.

YeOldeButchere Sep 30, 2006 06:48 PM

In response to the above post, spoilers for the anime, possible spoilers for the games/manga:

Spoiler:
Those are all different stories. What happens is that in every story there's a "bad end", where some of the characters get killed, or where everyone dies in Hinamizawa (I hope I spelled that correctly). When that happens, everything restarts and something changes, leading to other events. Oyashiro-sama, or whatever the name of the god Rika can channel, seems to be responsible for this. So basically, everyone's stuck in a giant time loop until a "good end" occurs. What's unusual in the last arc is that Keichi manages to remember stuff that happened previously in a different timeline. Usually only Rika could do that. The last arc appears to end with a "good end", but we see that there is another restart anyway. Rika/Oyashiro-sama even mentions that there is another mystery in Hinamizawa. This is because, even though we do not see it, everything ends badly again. To be more specific, everyone in Hinamizawa dies just like in one of the previous arcs. The reasons for this is the other mystery Rika refered to.

Of course, this assumes I've managed to piece the whole thing together correctly.

Manny Biggz Sep 30, 2006 10:46 PM

This had better have a second season then.

Spoiler:
How in the blue hell can they talk about some mystery, and never even give us any clues on what it is? This kind of ending leaves me REALLY sour after such a good anime. Seriously, i'm pissed off...

zzeroparticle Oct 1, 2006 02:27 AM

Well, to be fair, there are a few "Answer Arcs" that haven't been released (two of them to be exact). The last two story arcs reveal everything that's been going on and put a face upon the murderer. The last story arc, of course, will be the one that non-game players will be looking for as the happy ending.

I do hope that these will get released as an OVA or something. The series was satisfying all the way through and I had a blast coming up with theories and comparing them with others. There's also a lot of joy in rewatching episodes over and over to scrounge for details that I may have missed on the first watchthrough.

Bigblah Oct 1, 2006 11:53 AM

Correcting YeOldeButchere on a minor point on episode 25:

Spoiler:
Keiichi shot little girls with a toy gun, he never killed any of them :p

Sosei Oct 1, 2006 12:13 PM

Anyone else see 26?

Spoiler:
I'm still kinda surprised that there wasn't an elaborate double-jeopordy trap in place in/around the building. I mean, when Shion (episodes back) promised not to kill Keiichi, it looked like she held to that promise...until the end of that episode, of course.

YeOldeButchere Oct 1, 2006 01:57 PM

I know Bigblah, but I was sorta pissed when I wrote this post and didn't bother changing it. He did (spoiler for 25)

Spoiler:
shoot one of those girls in the eye, though.

Sin Ansem Oct 16, 2006 10:12 AM

Got to Ep 23.

Spoiler:
I hate Shion in the second Mion/Shion arc. Needed a more satisfying death.


Double Post:
Oh, Finished the series!

Spoiler:
Last Arc is the best... but really sucks that it doesn't conclude EVERYTHING. So those of you who know the games... who's really behind the shit that went down and why?


Rika is much too cute.

Hajiki Oct 17, 2006 01:33 PM

Well, I finished this series a while back and i gotta admit, I was very good

YeOldeButchere Oct 17, 2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sin Ansem
Oh, Finished the series!

Spoiler:
Last Arc is the best... but really sucks that it doesn't conclude EVERYTHING. So those of you who know the games... who's really behind the shit that went down and why?


Rika is much too cute.

Ok, if you really want to know...

Spoiler:
I haven't played the game, so I can't explain the whole thing. What I do know is that there are apparently 3 things going on in the village. First, there's the stuff tied to Oyashiro-sama, namely the restarts and Rika being able to predict some things, which I believe I've explained in a previous post. Next, there apparently is something known as "Hinamizawa Disease", which is responsible for all the crazies we get to see (Keichi, Shion, Rena). I'm really not sure about that though, since I haven't heard much about it.

And then of course, you have the one who triggers everything each time. That would be Takano. Major Takano, actually. It appears that she is an officer in the JSDF, Tomitake also being one, though of lower rank. In each arc, she has a disagreement with Tomitake, and ends up killing him then faking her own death. The guys we see going around in vans are apparently with her. She also seems to be responsible for the "Hinamizawa Disaster", where she gasses the whole town. The reason of her presence is apparently related to the Hinamizawa Disease, in fact, I think I remember reading that Dr. Irie is part of the research on this. I'd really like to go into more details about this, but unfortunately, I don't know much more and I don't have much time either.

And for those wondering, the deaths on the previous Watanagashi (or however you spell that) nights were actually coincidences. I think.

Sin Ansem Oct 18, 2006 11:14 PM

Oi! I browsed around in regards to the other two unanimated arcs.

While the last arc remains unsummarized FULLY, much to my chagrin, I did learn the following:

Spoiler:

-Oyashiro-sama is actually a cute girl spirit with horns by the name of Hanyuu. Her powers only include resetting the world when Rika dies, but her powers have dwindled. Those infected with the Hinamizawa syndrome could hear Hanyuu, but only Rika could see (and in the anme, 'channel') her.
-Takano's motivation? Simple but two fold. a) To become remembered like a god b) Continue her grandfather's research and avenge him... it's believed the town disgraced him, thusly she gasses the town out of revenge in some endings
-In the seventh and eighth arcs, Rika slowly comes to know of Takano's motivations. As well, the other kids stick their friendship together to make sure nothing goes wrong... But that's when Takano leads an assault and kills them all (seventh arc)
-Last arc apparently has Rika know of Takano's motivations right from the start. A few miracles later and arc eight plays out like seven--minus the good guy deaths. By some last miracle... the one I'm hunting for to this day, Rika kills Takano.
-As well, Takano is fleshed out, and apparently is in tears by the time Rika finishes her off. Ouch.
-I would like to mention again that I still have no summary for arc eight and therefore have no idea what miracles occur to allow Rika to achieve victory. Which makes me quite angry actually.


Had I not been a stupid idiot and went to Wikipedia to look up more on Higurashi, I would've been satisfied with the anime's ending. But NOOOOO...

Vexe Dec 10, 2006 03:41 PM

As it seems, Higurashi still is not over. Some of my sources mentioned that an unspecified magazine had an article about Higurashi no Naku koro ni getting further episodes.

Of course, I do hope that this is the truth, since this is one of my favorite animes. I'd love to understand what happened to Satoshi and who Rika is.

Ryuu Dec 10, 2006 11:48 PM

Why did it take me so long to find this awesome?

I just recently discovered it on my random search for worthy anime, and I love it so far. I'm through episode 4, and everything about the series is quite amazing. The characters, the town, and just the overall horror and suspense of the area.

What I love most:
Spoiler:
How it starts off so gruesome, but then turns into something lighthearted in episode one. Then it turns into something horrific at the end with the discovery of the whole dismemberment murder that occurred in the past. The juxtaposition between something light-hearted and something so much more horrific is just crazy to me - and I love it.

yangxu Dec 11, 2006 12:10 AM

There will be a season 2 starting sometime in 2007.... I'm sure it'll include the two chapters from the PS2 version of the game.

Balikruxh Dec 12, 2006 08:48 AM

Holy hell! I just started watching this series and after reading through some of your postings here I have to say, OMG! It's all I can think of, I love the series and the whole concept is really neat and inviting. Although, the brutality of the series is kinda sweet and innocent, something about those kids makes me fear and love them all at once.

On to the second season.

Vexe Dec 12, 2006 11:13 AM

"Although, the brutality of the series is kinda sweet and innocent"

Hehe, you'll love the semi-last anime arc. >_>

Freelance Dec 12, 2006 05:10 PM

Awesome. I had a feeling there'd be more episodes, as there's still questions that need to be answered. This is the first series I've watched in a while that I've actually liked.

I thought this thread was dead too.

Outlaw Mar 6, 2007 05:31 AM

From ANN:

Quote:

Geneon to Release When They Cry - Higurashi

Geneon Entertainment will release When They Cry - Higurashi on June 5; there will be a regular edition and a limited edition with box release. The 26-episode series was originally known as Higurashi no Naku Koro ni when it was released in Japan, however the creators have always referred to it as "When they Cry" in English.
I would have posted the news sooner, but this is the official statement, not just someone finding out that the domain name was registered like three days ago...

Manny Biggz Mar 7, 2007 06:24 PM

Awesome! I've been in a anime slump lately, and wanted something to watch. I am defenitly looking forward to this one! Now if only they would release the PS2 game here...

Freelance Mar 7, 2007 06:29 PM

Know how much the set's gonna be? I didn't think it'd come out here.

The second season is coming so soon? Awesome. Yet another cool show to watch :3

chato Mar 7, 2007 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by From ANN
We previously stated that Higurashi no Naku Koro ni 2 was to be released in Japan this April. This information was incorrect, we are not aware of any specific month for the release of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni 2, the only information we have regarding the new series is that it is due out sometime in 2007. ANN Apologizes for this error.


It's not coming out in April but sometime in 2007. My aim is at the summer. I still have to watch the rest of this anime. only at episode 2 XD

Freelance Mar 7, 2007 06:45 PM

Awww! That sucks. I was looking forward to watching another series. I'm only watching two right now. One will probably be ending soon (am on ep 40), although the other may run for a bit. I dunno how many eps it has.

The boxset date is official though?

chato Mar 7, 2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf (Post 408579)
Awww! That sucks. I was looking forward to watching another series. I'm only watching two right now. One will probably be ending soon (am on ep 40), although the other may run for a bit. I dunno how many eps it has.

The boxset date is official though?

Yes. That's basically the reason why they announced that little error. They get too excited ;p. At least the unknown date of part 2 will give me time to watch the first season.

zzeroparticle Jul 10, 2007 12:05 AM

Yeah... this thread seriously needs to be revived...

Watching the first episode of this show just made me realize how much I missed Higurashi and how awesome that show was to begin with. The first episode sent shivers down my back. Not shivers of suspense or horror, mind you, but the shivers of excitement and anticipation.

Budget seems to have gotten a bigger boost this time around and I hope to see fewer deformed faces than what we saw during the first season, mostly because it was shocking the first time, but then stopped being scary. Even though the first episode was a recap of the events, it did do a good job of setting the atmosphere. I'm expecting an awesome conclusion to come about through these Answer arcs.

Also,

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/483/renadj3.jpg

seeing Rena thirty years later is <3

Para Jul 12, 2007 06:28 PM

Know where I can find the 1st season to watch?

Lukage Jul 14, 2007 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Para (Post 470297)
Know where I can find the 1st season to watch?

Surely not on Boxtorrents.


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