Attention PSN Users - Your Information Just Got Stolen
 

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Guess what? Sony screwed up big time, and someone now has your information! Just which information?

But that's not all, they also might have gotten this stuff!

And as if this wasn't bad enough:

Now is a good time to change your passwords! It's also a good time to consider changing your credit card number! Check for emails from DoNotReply@ac.playstation.net to see which card they have on file. As for your password, well... right now you can't change or check it.

GOOD JOB SONY! :cmbirthday:

I don't see how this is some INSANE issue. Okay, having all that credit card information (if the hacker(s) have it, I don't see how since theres been CC encryption since the advent of online purchasing) is fucking horrible and Sony is never going to get back the level of trust they once had.

But pretty much EVERYTHING ELSE IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD. And whoop-de-fucking-do that some guy might have my PSN password because THAT REALLY MEANS SOMETHING IF THE NETWORK IS SHUT DOWN.

That's absolutely true. The CC issue is a big one, though, and people having your PSN password means something for those people (like me, formerly) that use the same password for everything.

More than anything I'm just letting people know so that regardless of how much they care they know what went out there.

It's inexcusable that they spent a week pretending nothing drastic happened. Up until today all we'd heard was that there was "an intrusion" and it was made to sound like they'd just taken the network down, not actually taken shit.

I agree with these things as well.

However, a lot of people online are super alarmist and like to see people wave their arms so THEY know how to react. You have to be careful about the precedent you set when you open threads like this. Acting like the place is on fire is only going to make people think its the smart thing to do.

Well, I suppose I sounded a bit more alarmist than I intended. More than anything I'm trying to come across as mad. I just came off of redoing EVERYTHING after Gawker got hacked and subsequently revealed to be absolutely incompetent chucklefucks, and I'm mad that Sony took as long as they did to reveal that the possibility of the information being stolen exists.

I'd just rather see the information get spread quickly so everyone who cares enough to go the full nine yards with protecting their info gets the headsup.

Yeah, I'm sad I have to change my passwords to everything now. I don't even remember all the shit I used that password for.

I think I may have had a PSN account with them, but I never used it for anything other then downloading a game or two for my PSP back in the day. At the same time though, better safe then sorry. I'll be changing my info whenever the network goes back up.

...and here I was contemplating getting a PS3 to play blu-rays with, with a couple games on the side as a bonus

The thing is, their CC encryption is shit. Crossposting from reddit:


Here's a source: Report: PSN hacked, custom firmware could pose security risk to users (UPDATED)

Note that it's from 2 months ago

What a fucking mess. I never used my credit card on PSN, so there's that.

Ahahaha holy shit I just realized

From that article 2 months ago:

That is inexcusable. Best practice is best practice, for a reason, assholes.

Did this within an hour of reading the press release; between the option of putting a fraud alert on my card and potentially tripping it myself as I went out of country to the meet in a few weeks, figured this was the much better option.

Hilariously fucked up: Only US accounts have gotten these emails, even though all regions everywhere had the information stolen. Clearly they just don't give a fuck. Awesome!

The only possible way I can think of to check passwords is if you saved the password in your browser and used their site or store.playstation.com for anything.

I'm lucky all mine are unique but still.

That said, saw this via GAF.

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What a clusterfuck of bullshit.

Sony Shuts Down PlayStation Network Indefinitely - Digits - WSJ

Sony shuts down PSN indefinitely

They'll probably rebuild it with some new features and decide to make us pay for it.

sony are a bunch of jerks

Uh, I'm pretty sure they're aware that would only compound the problem and then finish them off.

LOL our card expires this month, so no biggie. SD went and changed all of his passwords though.

But wow @ indefinitely down psn. What a lame way to go. :\

I suppose we should give those psn cards a chance now?

This is really bad wording.

It's not down forever, it's down for the moment as they don't know when it's going back up. It's not gone. WSJ here is just being sensationalist.

Perhaps you need to look up what the word "indefinite" means before you complain about wording.

Words have multiple meanings. You know as well as I do that indefinite can be and often is used as a synonym for unlimited or endless. Especially in business speak. That headline is a touch misleading, yes.

A better one would have used indeterminate. But this is picking nits. There's a tonne of misinformation out there right now.

Something to consider, and a reason for everyone to change their passwords regardless of how insane you get over all of this:

If you have a CC tied with your PSN account, even if they don't have the CC info itself, they can log into PSN accounts with said CC info and rack up a huge CC bill in psn purchases. This is unlikely, but something to note.

Well, right now they can't, but should the service come back up, and people DON'T change their password, then yeah.

I think the bigger issue will be when the service does come back, and people don't change their security question. Or date of birth. Assuming Sony does not remove the option of resetting your password WITHOUT an email verification. Since you know, changing your password won't do much good if some dude has every other info one needs to reset the password.

Uh, yes - words have many meanings and "indefinite" doesn't mean what you suggest unless you're a functioning illiterate?

Dictionary

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying that the word is used often enough in other, obviously incorrect contexts that one can easily draw the wrong conclusion from it's usage.

Why is this rocket science for you?

Man I didn't really want to reply but "being a pedant is not the same as being smart" doesn't fit into the tag editor? Well, bye.

YOU JUST AREN'T TRYING HARD ENOUGH

fire up ms paint I have a few ideas for a sloppily constructed macro that suggests that the internet often argues about something other than the point


Yeah I can imagine that nerds would be so outraged that they'd give up blastin' their codblops forever and sublimate their rage into the can-do-ness needed to get out of the basement... or... they could just pay a few dollars a month and keep on blastin'

as usual sony will be wiping their tears away with their hundred dollar bill tissues

edit: it probably won't happen but I can see a reality in which it would. I'm just hypothesizing based upon sony's typical practices of squeezing their users for a buck and trying to make them feel bad about it at the same time

Yes, how clever for you.

Pointing out the obvious isn't especially clever, no, but they can't all be gems.

Getting off the subject of LeHah being an ass, anybody get an e-mail from Sony about this yet? Not that it'd do any good days after everybody has already known but it'd be interesting to see how much they actually care. I got one yesterday night.

Finally got the email this morning, actually. Many folks I Know still hadn't gotten one as of yesterday.

I was surprised to see an e-mail from them yesterday afternoon but then I remembered I had to sign up for a PSN account for some PSP shit. I'm not sure if there's any information I'm terribly concerned about being out there (for one, I did not use my credit card at any point) but, well, I'm probably just as alarmed as everyone else that Sony's shit got hacked.

An interesting tidbit in the e-mail:I'm curious if that section was automatically generated for me because I'm a Massachusetts resident?

I got the email yesterday.

And yeah, that is a special bit for Massachusetts. On the playstation blog they posted the same info the emails contained, but had links for Massachusetts residents and Puerto Rico residents.

Finally got mine early this morning. Was wondering what was the hold up was. Gee. I am not even sure what's my password is but I do hope when it boots back up, they'll still send an email password confirmation? Or is that just asking too much?

ALSO.

YouTube Video

According to the Q&A thing they posted on the blog today, there will be a prompt to change your password the first time you log back in. Not sure how that really helps considering that the hackers have all the info they need to log in and change your password before you do.

My JP account got the e-mail shortly after the announcement of what happened, my US account still has not gotten just got the e-mail. :V

It's good that the CC info was encrypted (however strong it was encrypted is up to debate considering personal info is plaintext) since it's not too hard to guess a new security code / expiration date if the number stays the same. Don't even need the security code either if buying plane tickets :|

i have 9 psn acounts and 6 credits cards at psn acoount I feel worryed now

Well I got the email this morning finally too. Thankfully I was able to get a new debit card, AND I took the liberty of getting a second account exclusively for online purchases at my bank earlier today, so I probably will be okay. About time I did so anyway.

So now with the lawsuits already filed, I wonder how Sony's already pretty abysmal PR department is going to handle this one.

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"Class Action? More like sass action. Gamers these days can't handle a couple surprises on their credit cards.

Thanks for the Enzo, Devin Gentry from North Carolina."

Well if the hackers did get hold of anyone's credit card information and they use it fraudulently, in Europe at least Sony will fall foul of the PCI (Payment Card Industry) rules which govern the storage of people's CC details. Fucking that up can lead to a fine of up to £1million and being forced by the banks to review all your security procedures and implement new ones, a rather costly exercise in itself. I'm not sure if PCI compliance is in effect in the US although I very much doubt it, given that chip and pin still seems to be a terrifying new concept for some people over there.

In general terms Sony ain't going to miss a million quid but the damage to investor confidence will really hurt them, as will having to re-build their security systems and the fact that people won't trust PSN for a while. This could end up being a really costly error on Sony's part.

ok Russia is part of Europe so i do`not need to worrying any more :)

Anyone here ever play an SOE game, especially non-US people? More incoming bad news. Earlier today all Sony Online Entertainment games were taken down:

Now this was just posted:

How...how do you fail this bad? I don't even.

Edit: Apparently this is not a new attack, this occurred in the original attack, but they only discovered the SOE breach within the last 24 hours. That's like....even worse.

I was just reading about that over at Joystiq, but I guess Daravon already got here with the news. It's impressive how this manages to get worse and worse when it was already so pathetic on Sony's part to begin with.

I went by the bank and cancelled my debit card (never used my credit on PSN) today, so now I'm just going to sit back and wait for next week's announcement from Sony that the hackers got our SSNs too somehow.

Call me dense - but whats the difference between the SOE service and PSN exactly?

I'm guessing SOE is mostly for the MMO stuff on PC (and recently on PS3), like Everquest and now DC Universe.

What's big, black and steals your credit card?

A PS3!

:tpg:

Super fucking lol Sony.

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At this point, the longer this outage goes on, the funnier I find it.

I would like a chance to play MAG some time this decade though.

(Strangely, PSN is down but game updates are still available?)

Game updates are house on separate servers or something like that, so they've been working. I think just anything that requires you to get through the PSN user/pass is down, which is why Netflix on PS3 seems to still be working for most people.

I hadn't even tried Netflix until you said something. I just assumed that I couldn't sign on to it without PSN being active. Weird. (It does give me the fucking PSN sign-on prompt four or five times before letting me in though.)

It's having to tell GT5 that no I don't want to sign into PSN four times each time I play it that has turned me off playing it in the last few weeks.

Well, that and the five minutes loading between races of course.

They've apparently realized that giving actual updates is pointless at this point. No new posts on the playstation blog since May 6th. Probably a good thing though. Thus far every time they have said "soon", "in the next few days", or "within a week" they have immediately found a new problem.

The word is currently by May 31st for full restoration of services. Whether or not that means they'll wait until the day of to get everything running is yet to be seen.

Well, hopefully that is the case. Want to get me some of that DLC for LA Noire.

PS3 - It Only Does Identity Theft

Old, but still lol worthy

The first thing I'm going to do is add a credit card to my account.

Is anyone else having trouble with the Hulu service? I can get netflicks to run fine but Hulu just wants to log in a million times... Darn PSN...

Yeah, I haven't been able to get Hulu on my PS3 either but it works fine on my Xbox

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...ftware-update/


Also looks like SOE coming back up today:

SOE - Restoration Announcement


Restoration announcement:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...-announcement/

aaaand the restoration map:

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/...on-begins-now/

So far only the northeastern part of the US consisting of New York and New Jersey up to Maine has it back. That's really surprising, I thought California of all places would've been first.

Also, the blog is getting hammered. Messages such as: "Error 50x An error has occurred… We have been notified about this issue and will get it resolved shortly…" and "Maintenance We're making a few quick changes and the site will be back online in just a few moments." are coming up. XD

Edit 18 minutes later: California has it back now.

I've downloaded and installed the update, yet when the window comes up telling me I'm going to have to change my password, clicking ok only results in the ok button flashing for a bit and then getting an error message kicking me back out to the menu. Maybe it's just because of an overload of requests at once or service hasn't been restored to my region, I don't know. I was hoping to download some rock band songs today, though. :(

Keep trying...it took me several tries but I eventually got through. Is anyone actually able to play online?

I haven't played anything online yet, but it looks like the PSN is now down again for maintenance. lol...

Oh this is why:

Details for PlayStation Network and Qriocity Customer Appreciation Program in North America – PlayStation Blog

Well, at least it's SOMETHING. I'll be grabbing WipeoutHD and LBP-PSP at the very least.

Shame that I own all those PS3 games except for Dead Nation, which I don't really care about. PSP I guess I'll grab...uhhh....Modnation Racers? Fuck if I know (or care). I'd suggest Wipeout to everyone and their dog if they hadn't ruined it by doubling load times and patching in advertisements for auto insurance after you bought the damn thing.

The Playstation Plus stuff should give you access to a few freebies that can be kept after the free subscription period ends. Which might be the best part of this.

Hope they don't try anything fishy with existing credit cards on file and auto-renew you for the Playstation Plus sub after the month rolls up.

No interest in LBP, already beat inFamous, and already own Dead Nation and Wipeout. Will definitely get Super Stardust though (that was on my wishlist anyway). Zero interest in any of the PSP games, but I think I've heard that Killzone was actually not bad.

Is this free games business only for those that have bought shit from PSN before or can anyone get up on this deal? I mean I have a PS3 but I rarely use it. Pretty sure I have a regular account or some such that you make when you first try to get online.

I think you just have to HAVE an account. That's what it sounds like, anyway.

Already have LBP on PS3. Guess I'll go after Wipeout. Haven't played inFamous yet, am I missing out?

Nothing strikes my fancy on PSP. Killzone: Liberation was ok. Just not a game I could get into. Maybe I'd get LBP for PSP, but that's a big maybe.

30 days of PSN+ access isn't bad, a great trial to see if I want to get the service. Also, I wonder what "select movies" we'll get. Incoming WWE films like The Marine and The Chaperone that they can't even sell on DVD.

So uh, if you have both a PS3 and a PSP, you can get 4 free games?

Too bad I already have Wipeout + Fury on disc (awesome game by the way so everyone should get that if they don't have it already), and I have been interested in Dead Nation and I'll guess I'll get Super Stardust HD. On the PSP front, I'll get Pursuit Force even though I have no clue what that is, and I already have Modnation Racers on UMD although I didn't care for it much. The others don't interest me.

Additional Spam:
Not true.

We temporarily took down the PSN and Qriocity password reset page. Contrary to some reports, there was no hack involved. In the process of resetting of passwords there was a URL exploit that we have subsequently fixed.

Consumers who haven’t reset their passwords for PSN are still encouraged to do so directly on their PS3. Otherwise, they can continue to do so via the website as soon as we bring that site back up.

Surprise, surprise, the PSN store is not coming back today after all, and we're back to the vague "before the end of the month". At this point, Sony should start accepting money orders, and mail out the games on floppy discs.

So the PSN store is back online now but there's no sign of free shit. Is this something we have to wait for or am I looking in the wrong place?

They're still "working" on that part. Expect it later.

I checked it when the store was up early this morning, and saw that we have until 6/07 to claim our free month of PSN+ service. Everytime I tried to click on the link it told me I didn't have the service to access it. I lol'd.

The Welcome Back pack is fully up and running here now so you can get your free games. I left my PS3 on overnight to download Wipeout HD and Infamous and it's nearly finished a mere 24 hours later. Of course if I want to actually play either I'll then have to wait ten minutes for them to install then another ten to download the latest patches then fifteen or so for the things to load.

I'm no Xbox fanboy but holy shit does it take a long time to get to actually play things on PS3.