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Birth Control
Today my girlfriend went to see a planned parenthood doctor to research options for birth control. We'd been talking about this for the last couple of weeks because sometimes we just get lost in the heat of the moment, forget to put on a condom then have to stop ourselves to put one on; shit kills the mood, yo. (Or, in before LOL PREMACHURE EJACUMALATION) I wanted to go with her but I got pulled off to work and she just took initiative and spoke to a doctor about the whole thing. We're looking into the daily pill and her doctor also recommended the use of "emergency contraceptives" (which, as some of you may remember, I've had intimate experience with). I figure most of you people are adults and a few of you may even (inexplicably) be in relationships with someone you care about. This is probably a multiple answer thread:
It should be noted that this is the first time I've actually seriously discussed options for birth control with any of my girlfriends. I was actually thinking about it today and it really hit me why. It's also the first time our age difference (she's 21, I'm 31) really impacted me. Most of my former girlfriends fell into one of the following descriptions: They already expected me to use a condom, didn't believe in contraceptives because their imaginary friend "god" told them it was bad or something, already had their set birth control methods (pills, diaphragm, etc) or, as was the case for one, had a fallopian tube ligation procedure done before we met, so this was never once discussed. I find it pretty curious that this all seems rather new to me. So, yeah, long story short:
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I use the pill. I've been on the pill since I was 15, for the most part. There was no discussion about this. There doesn't need to be a discussion about it.
I went to Planned Parenthood as a teenager to get my pills until I got my own health insurance. Since then, I go to an OBGYN once a year for inspections. Planned Parenthood is an excellent resource for girls who are under 18 but have ridiculous parents who won't acknowledge their daughters are sexually active. When I go to the OBGYN, I get checked (for free) for all the STDs and shit, too. While it's not really necessary, I still do it since it's free and takes no extra effort. |
My girlfriend has been taking baby killers for years and the experience has been positive as far as I'm concerned. They work as advertised: No babies and regulated periods. We've never had to use emergency contraceptives, so I can't tell you much about that. Just make sure she stays true to the schedule otherwise they may fail you and next thing you know you'll have a few dozen more children to cram in your wood-paneled station wagon every time you want to go to CVS.
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I don't know anything about your girl but she better have military precision on taking her pills every single day. When you don't, accidents happen.
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I've had pretty solid experiences here. Maybe you should try out the combo packs so you can find a rubber that doesn't suck, paco. (I was pretty amazed by the difference between brands.) |
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Some birth control pills require that you take the pill at the same time, every day, with military precision, like Lurks said. Others, you can usually get away with a 4-6 hours window. Be sure to have her check with the doctor or pharmacist, and seriously, follow that shit religiously. Timing CAN be important. |
I've been on the pill since my Mum took me to get started at 16. She is a very practical woman, which I appreciate. I've forgotten it a handful of times over the years, and if I'd been active in the past 24 hours I'd take Plan B. Nine baby-free years later, I'm pretty happy with it. *nods*
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Most girls I've slept with were on the pill. Of those that weren't, I relied on one of two methods. The first being not telling her my real name and phone number, the second being anal.
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Never used the pill. For starters I was too afraid of admitting I needed it when I was 13 and I'm glad now that I didn't - anything with oestrogen in it will more than likely end up killing me (maternal family history of heart problems). Considering I have only needed emergency contraceptive measures twice in the past seven years I am thinking I cope well enough without female-based birth control (watch fate get all pissed with me and make me end up pregnant by the end of the week), so I haven't really considered my other options.
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Well, I pulled out for the entirety of the time I was married. OBV this doesn't work for everybody, but it did for me. I had to buy Plan B once because a condom broke, though.
Girl I'm with now, though, has the matchstick in her arm. It's awesome. I don't worry, she doesn't worry, and there's no way to forget it for 3 years. Implantable Contraception It's relatively inexpensive for the convenience. About $500 I hear. |
I'm an avid fan of the shot. Depo Provera is by far, my most favorite form of birth control to date.
I've been on the pill before, and something about the hormonal control just didn't settle right with me and made me kind of go crazy. The nurse who prescribed it to me said (at the time) that it was the lowest possible dose of any amount of hormones it would affect, and yet I had issues. I don't know if it was the circumstances I was in or the drug that affected my psyche or not, but I figure it would be safe to assume it was a little of both. Depo was great. You get an injection every 3 months (it was $50 for the injection each time since my health insurance didn't cover brand-name products). For me, the co-pay was $25 for the OBGYN visit each time so adding that up, it's about $300 a year. My boy and I split the cost when I was on it since I didn't see why I had to be the one "fixed" like I was some dog off the street while he got the enjoyment out of doing it condom-free. Oh yeah, best part about Depo: No periods while you're on it. Ever. My take on birth control is that it takes two to tango (or tangle, which ever you prefer). There shouldn't be a question/discussion on where you stand if you're serious about either your partner or your stance on pregnancy with said partner. |
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To each its own, Devo.
I personally liked the Depo shot because my menstruation cycle was never regular to begin with. When you have periods coming every 3 to 28 weeks and have no reliability on it, it's definitely easier not having it at all. Though I do caution with any medication that messes with a woman's hormones is that it tends to put the weight control out of whack. Although I never thought it troublesome, I did gain a tad bit on Depo. It might be different for other women. And as I've mentioned before, it did stop my menstruation cycle for about 1.5 ~ 2 years after having stopped taking the medication. I would definitely not recommend Depo to a woman who's in their 30's or planning on getting pregnant within the next 2 years. Paco, it's up to you and you girl to decide what method works best for your relationship. Depo is a favorable option for someone your girl's age, but there are drawbacks and benefits and both should be weighed carefully. |
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I'm also curious to know if you get brand or generic and, if the brand, why? |
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Ladies in the past used the pill. Personally speaking (without getting in to it too much), I'm darn near infertile due to mysterious medical stuff :( BARREN. THE LADIES WILL NEVER SHAKE MY HAND
Echoing the issue about the pill and timing, though. Given that and the fact that nothing is perfect, a "double-bagging" approach is ideal, just to be safe. |
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My bad for trying to provide historical context as to why the pill has allowed for periods from the start for exactly the reason you say you wouldn't want depo.
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My girlfriend actually has to take birth control in order to KEEP her period working right at all. There was a period there before she started again where she didn't get one for something like two years. Hormones are pretty awesome.
Also, premature ovarian failure is a pretty sure-fire way to avoid any issues. Try that, Paco. |
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2. To be fair, the doctor's office I went to was in the same building as the pharmacist and they delivered the package (vial) up to the office on the day of my appointments for free. 3. I would never trust myself with a intramuscular injection and the pap-smear test once a year was free; making myself go to the clinic/doctor's office (I was in-and-out of the office for my shots in 20 minutes most of the time since it was just the nurse administering the shot) 4~5 times a year wasn't all that bad. I'm actually not quite sure if the ones I had were generic or brand name. I'm pretty sure they were the brand since they were so expensive, but I could be wrong. How much do Depo prescriptions cost? I'm sure you know a lot better about the differences than I do. Mine were close to $50 per vial. Additional Spam: Quote:
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I've been on the pill since I was 18, and haven't really considered any of the other methods. My doctor has asked me if I wanted to, but... eh. The pills are cheap (I still get mine through the Planned Parenthood), I get them mailed to me, and its not that hard to remember a single small pill before going to bed.
What I've noticed about what some folks are saying here actually differs a bit from what my doctor told me. Yeah, taking it around the same time every day/night helps, but its not necessary to be all MILITARY about it. I take mine before I go to bed every night, whether its 10pm or 2am. And if you miss a pill? Take it when you realize you've missed it, or with the next night's pill. If you miss 2 or more pills, thats when you're supposed to start using a condom for the next week. Its been 6 years- no babies. And I'm not sure if other birth controls have all of the same benefits, but with the pill you get regulated periods (pretty standard), controlled cramps (much needed in my case, my cramps would echo into my legs before), reduced acne, and sometimes lighter periods. Oh yeah, and your boobs may grow a bit. As for the loss of menstruation on some birth controls... I understand why some women do it, but as for me, I know I couldnt. Maybe its silly reasoning, but if said birth control fails (god forbid), the first signal of that failure would be the lack of a period. I'm sure morning sickness could be soon after, but really, I've started seeing my period as a monthly confirmation that my birth control is doing its job. Good on you for getting involved with your girlfriend's choice, Ence. I'm really surprised she hasnt looked into it before this. I think I was the latest of my sisters to start it at age 18. Its admirable of you, and I'm sure she appreciates it. Only one of my boyfriends had ever offered to help pay for my pills, and while I refused, it was still a pleasant surprise. |
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In my case, I'm on Camilla (Chris says it's a generic, and here in Massachusetts, I think you have to take the generic if it's available). I have very high blood pressure, and at the time it was prescribed for me, I was smoking too, so I need to take these pills, which took some serious adjusting to. On the package, it says to take it at the same time every day. My doctor told me that with this particular birth control, it's imperative to do it within a 1-2 hour window. Not sure why, but I was never told this while on the ortho tricyclen. I figured I should probably follow it if I don't want any kids. I found that the pill also regulated my period VERY effectively (when I was on the ortho tri, not so much now). I have no issues with the pill. I love it. |
Dope: Thanks for answering my question. I'm not going to cry over spilled milk, but that was interesting to find out.
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Without knowing the laws in California, I can only guess that they are similar to those in Massachusetts, where if the generic for a drug is available the pharmacy by law must dispense it, regardless of personal wishes or doctor's orders (unless the prescriber includes "do not substitute" on the prescription). But every state has different laws: I think in Connecticut a patient may request the brand if it is available (regardless of whether it is covered) and the same was the case in New Hampshire when I worked there.
As I mentioned, generics must have some degree of bio-equivalence to the brands before being approved by the FDA. The common argument I sometimes hear is that people don't believe that the generic is as effective as the brand and that is a slippery slope discussion. Long story short, you can always ask your pharmacist whether you're being dispensed the brand or the generic and, if you're on the brand, what it would take to go to the generic. I'm willing to bet you've been dispensed the generic. Since medication co-pays have become a major issue in the last 10-15 years, a number of changes have been made to ensure that generics do become available and they are required to be less expensive by law, and your pharmacy likely benefits more from dispensing the generic than the brand. |
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Then again, over here you always get generic drugs when you're filling a prescription since it's a flat fee, rather than paying for what you're having (Or in fact free for a lot of people) so you only choose between branded or not when you buy non-prescription stuff. Still makes me laugh when people say that only a certain brand of pain killer works for them since they are literally all exactly the same thing. |
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http://thehedge.files.wordpress.com/...dalf_large.jpg ...FDA regulations regarding approval of generics require a generic drug to meet two pharmacokinetic parameters between boundaries of 80% and 125%. You can read it here: Spoiler:
(Coincidentally Shorty, there is a study being worked on by Columbia University regarding self-administered vs. clinician-administered intramuscular injections.) |
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Spiffy. Thanks for the info! =) |
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I assumed he was referring to opioids (like MS Contin versus OxyContin, or whatever the UK equivalent is).
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As for what pill I'm on, it's been changing lately. From the beginning until about a year ago, I was on Ortho Tri-Cyclen Lo, and absolutely loved it. Then some rule went into effect where they couldn't bill insurance companies for anything but generic brands, so I was put on... Trinessa? I think that's what it was. Apparently I was in the minority who hated the switch... My PMS got worse and I felt like crying over stupid little things. So I told my doctor at my yearly exam, and she put me on plain old Ortho Tri-Cyclen, which has been working well. And now I have one month before my prescription has been switched to Levora, because of another bullshit rule about billing insurance. We'll see how that goes. |
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I understand the idea of wanting there to be a period every month for reassurance, but when you're on the pill is it not just a withdrawal bleed from the medication not being supplied during that week? I didn't think it was a real one.
I used to be on the pill, but I don't have insurance anymore so I decided against it for now. I haven't looked into going to one of those women's clinics yet, but I imagine I could get it cheaper there. without insurane it's kinda ridiculous. I don't need it to regulate anything but the prevention of babby. |
Ava, when I was without insurance my state had a service to give birth control & women's health services (pap smears, probably pregnancy health checks too) for poor folks. I didn't find out about it until I went to a free clinic; so, it would be worth your while looking into it.
I don't know what you mean about "real" menstruation. It's not like the blood coming out is from a wound the pill gave you; it's still the same stuff you would have if you weren't on it. |
You could try pulling out.
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6 years running now with no birth control and no babies. Technically 7 years and some change but I've been away now for 18 months.
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So exactly how long did you have to keep your balls in the microwave to pull that off? |
No, he just hasn't has sex for 7 years.
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Or he nails dudes exclusively. Or women but only up the butt because they're mormon. HMMM the possibilities are much broader than I initially thought.
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Being 6000 miles away works rather well too.
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Not when Skills is involved.
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When you're packing this kind of heat, 6000 miles ain't an issue baby~
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LOL!
Never been with a guy and I've never been with a Mormon. Either I have the best luck ever or I'm shooting blanks. |
So 4 minutes then you stir and remove the cellophane then put them back in for an additional minute and a half?
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No seriously tho. We stopped using protect about a year into the relationship. I should probably have a fertility test O-o |
It must be my lack of sleep, but I swear Gumby just said he has a fetish about having Megatron pointed at his balls.
ROLL OUT. |
Would it sound better if I called it a cavity magnetron?
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