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vuigun Apr 12, 2006 03:38 PM

The most Popular Music this Decade?
 
Since this Generation, there is more than just one dominant Music Genre,it's hard to really tell which Genre is most dominant.

I thought it was rap at first but then I remembered Rock Music was also very Popular. Then I thought, there's Good Deal of people who Love Pop Music.

What would be the most popular Music of this Decade? I'm going to say Rap Music. This is probably going to be called the Rap generation.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Apr 12, 2006 03:54 PM

Why the hell do people like you insist upon placing largely meaningless labels on whatever you can?

Were the 90's the "alternative" generation? I guess nobody did anything else other than alt/indie music then. Not much of an "alternative", huh?

Oh, right. The 80s were the "New Wave" generation, except that nobody calls it that anymore; the term has left the vernacular. Now 80's music is "80s music", a seemingly all-inclusive title that is anything but.

Give it a fucking rest. If future generations are going to look back upon this decade's music and assign it any title at all, I sincerely hope they choose to call it "the time music went to complete shit and people forgot what the fuck melody is."

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 04:07 PM

Well, I was just talking about the most popular Music of this Generation. Every Decade has one. I guess you'll have to ask society why we got everybody and everything into categories.

I wouldn't call it meaningless though. It's more like finding out what was hot in each generation based on Popular Music.

I do get what you mean though. When you clasify a generation's music on one category, you usually miss out on the other music that was still an influental part of the decade.

Meth Apr 12, 2006 04:48 PM

why don't you wait for the decade to actually be over before you jump in with a gross overgeneralization for its music. It's only 2006, we've got 4 more years. The so-called "dominant" sound of the 10's may be yet to be heard.

Just out of dumb curiosity, what would you consider to be the dominant musical genre of the 90's?

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 05:00 PM

Of the 90's? I'd say Hip-Hop. Only because that's what most of the people around me were listening to.

Aardark Apr 12, 2006 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
Give it a fucking rest. If future generations are going to look back upon this decade's music and assign it any title at all, I sincerely hope they choose to call it "the time music went to complete shit and people forgot what the fuck melody is."

Why so? I dunno, maybe I'm retarded and don't know what good music is (ten out of ten Iwatas agree), but there are still a lot of contemporary bands that I like. Sure, there's a lot of depressing R&B shit in the charts, and such, but it seems like an overstatement to say that this is the decade music went to shit.

Hey, ''soniclover'', what's the difference betwen hip-hop and rap (aside from hip-hop not being a genre of music per se)? And what's with the random capitalization of words?

Meth Apr 12, 2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by soniclover
Of the 90's? I'd say Hip-Hop. Only because that's what most of the people around me were listening to.

so i guess the whole hugely popular grunge movement (Nirvana and all the others) really had no impact on 90's music. just so you know, most of the people around you are dumb.

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardark
Hey, ''soniclover'', what's the difference betwen hip-hop and rap (aside from hip-hop not being a genre of music per se)? And what's with the random capitalization of words?

Well, I guess everyone has their own meaning of what differs between both genres.

I consider Hip-Hop to rely more on words and Rap to rely more on the music and beat. Over the years, I personally, have seen it rely more on beat now then the actual words.

As for the random capitalization of words. It's always something I do by habit. I try not to but it's like something I do every so often with random words. My English Teacher got on me a lot for doing that in High School. I guess she didn't really help me out in the long run. :doh:

Aardark Apr 12, 2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
so i guess the whole hugely popular grunge movement (Nirvana and all the others) really had no impact on 90's music.

In Bronx, Every Day is Hip-hop Decade.

To be fair, though, the first half of the nineties probably can be considered the golden age of hip-hop.

Meth Apr 12, 2006 05:21 PM

as well as the birth of grunge/alternative rock.

i guess it really just depends on what had more commercial success, or was more of a lasting influence on the future.

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
so i guess the whole hugely popular grunge movement (Nirvana and all the others) really had no impact on 90's music. just so you know, most of the people around you are dumb.

I said personally, I'd remember the 90's for Hip-Hop, I didn't say it was the most popular music of the 90's.

I love how you called the people around me dumb though. We all know the music you listen to measures your intelligence, right?

Meth Apr 12, 2006 05:31 PM

yes it does. the music a person listens to is a direct result of their intelligence. there has never been a statment on these forums with more truth. :biggrin:

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 05:34 PM

HIGH FIVES!!!!

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Apr 12, 2006 05:37 PM

Well my point is that when we consider the "popular" opinion, we only have to look so far as the most highly purchased albums of the past several years to understand what the largest trends were and, subsequently, what will most likely define this decade. Statistically, emo-rock, rap, R&B and country-crossovers will make the largest showing.

My personal opinion that none of this music actually constitutes "music," in its more aesthetic sense, prompts me to call it "shit". If the "popular" music charts were more representative of a widened demographic, I'd be far more forgiving.

I don't blame the public entirely, since record labels focus advertising and airplay toward a select few artists and people can't easily enjoy and purchase what they don't know exists. But it's this same stranglehold on the industry-at-large that will ultimately define what the 00's were all about. This definition will not be a representation of what people truly liked, but rather, what the masses were told to like, pretty much by virtue of all other options being denied adequate forums.

Oh, there are and always will be high quality songs which defy the most common precepts of each respective era - I understand some magnificent work is emerging from Scandinavia lately; it's not my type of sound but I concede its brilliance - but these are the exceptions which serve to define the rule: most people are lazy and will accept whatever drivel they're given.

I trust that this is the same silent majority that also figures all politicians are crooked so they'll just vote for the one with the best hair.

It is my overall resentment over the recording industry's smug grip on what becomes popular that causes me to become upset whenever someone tries to pin a musical label on any era. Doing so is conceding victory to those scumbags by omitting all the other excellent stuff that happened as well.

Neogin Apr 12, 2006 05:44 PM

From what I feel, 80s were Rock, 90s were Pop/Hip-hop, and today is a mix of everything, which includes Punk, Rap, Hip-Hop..

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 06:48 PM

Crash Landon, you are very right. We won't really get a real good reading since of all of these advertisements are fudging it.

But since the typical crowd follows whatever is given to them, technically, what the advertisements say is still the most popular. Crash, you seem to have a bigger issue with people accepting what's given to them, like music. (Correct me if I'm wrong)

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Originally Posted by Devolicious
Personally I like the record industries promoting total shit. Makes them care less about the good stuff I pirate or the records I want are nice and cheap. Keep promoting crap majority of America!

I feel the exact same way Devolicious. A lot of times people look at me like I'm crazy when I say I like VGM music. A part of me feels sad that they basically give into the mainstream music (I say this because the music they listen too is strictly mainstream). Then, another part of me is glad less people care/know about VGM music so less people can pollute it.

knkwzrd Apr 12, 2006 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by soniclover
A lot of times people look at me like I'm crazy when I say I like VGM music. A part of me feels sad that they basically give into the mainstream music (I say this because the music they listen too is strictly mainstream). Then, another part of me is glad less people care/know about VGM music so less people can pollute it.

I don't listen to "mainstream" music, but I still think you're crazy for listening to videogame music. To me, it all seems like second rate orchestral stuff or vastly overdone progressive metal. It's just another way to wrap yourself up in an isolated, womanless world of buzzing electronics. But hey, whatever floats your boat is fine by me.

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by knkwzrd
I don't listen to "mainstream" music, but I still think you're crazy for listening to videogame music. To me, it all seems like second rate orchestral stuff or vastly overdone progressive metal. It's just another way to wrap yourself up in an isolated, womanless world of buzzing electronics. But hey, whatever floats your boat is fine by me.

So, why are you on a VGM site?

And I barely even listen to the Mainstream VGM music (Since of course there's Mainstream VGM music too). Sometimes I get bored with the orchestral stuff. VGM can be anything. That's why I love it. It isn't just one specific genre, it can have so many different feelings. (Which I can't get in one specific genre of music). Everything you listen too is probably like something on a VGM album. Most people don't know this so they are turned off by VGM.

knkwzrd Apr 12, 2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by soniclover
So, why are you on a VGM site?

Since when is this strictly a videogame music site?

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 07:41 PM

Since I commanded it. :lolsign:

Basil Apr 12, 2006 07:53 PM

Mainstream VGM? That's just licensed music featured in video games (ie Crazy Taxi, Grand Theft Auto).

My guess as to why people dislike VGM so much is that 1: They don't get much opportunity to sample it since it's barely in the market, or they don't play video games, or 2: People simply don't like instrumental tunes. VGM has gotten progressively better since the N64 era though.

To answer the original question of this topic: that's a tough one. I hear pop and rock all the time on the radio and hardly any rap - so it's a tie between pop and rap IMO.

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Kirby2
Mainstream VGM? That's just licensed music featured in video games (ie Crazy Taxi, Grand Theft Auto).

My guess as to why people dislike VGM so much is that 1: They don't get much opportunity to sample it since it's barely in the market, or they don't play video games, or 2: People simply don't like instrumental tunes. VGM has gotten progressively better since the N64 era though..

I consider Mainstream music the music that is very popular with the VGM crowd, not the licensed music. Like Soul Calibur III's soundtrack as well as Final Fantasy's music. Many of these mainstream albums bore me. Like Shadow of the Colossus. I understand why many people believe it's all orchestral or Techno, because when you find out about the VGM scene, it's all everyone is talking about. (I'm talking about you Castlevania). I tend to enjoy the VGM music less VGM fans know about/care about.

So Yes, you are right Blue_Kirby as to why people dislike VGM music so much.

knkwzrd Apr 12, 2006 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Devolicious
What do you prefer then?

I'll listen to pretty much anything. I don't dislike videogame music because it's from videogames, but because it doesn't seem very well made to me. The only reason anyone seems to listen to videogame music is that they're incredibly into videogames, not on the merit of the music itself. But, enough about this. It's off topic.

vuigun Apr 12, 2006 08:09 PM

It's okay if it's off topic. I listen to every genre.

I think you have to wrong idea as to why people listen to VGM though. I listen to many VGM albums that I never even played or heard of the game's name. I listen to it strictly because there's some great and unique gems out there.

I really understand why you think it's bassically progressive rock, orchestra, and Techno. That's what a lot of people I know perceive. It's not all though. The majority is but not all. I really like some VGM albums because I'm a Jazz fan and there's some great Jazzy VGM albums out there.

EVERY Genre of music is in VGM music. To hate VGM music would be hating all music.

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Actually, I turned to VGM music because I was bored with all the mainstream music. There's just so much varitey in VGM it was so fresh to me.

Mucknuggle Apr 12, 2006 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon
My personal opinion that none of this music actually constitutes "music," in its more aesthetic sense, prompts me to call it "shit". If the "popular" music charts were more representative of a widened demographic, I'd be far more forgiving.

Trying to get into the whole "Rap and Hip Hop are not music" debate again. That died with the crash, don't dig it out of its grave.

Grubdog Apr 12, 2006 10:36 PM

Crazy Frog is the Led Zeppelin of the 00's

guyinrubbersuit Apr 13, 2006 01:11 AM

This decade seems to mirror the previous decade pretty well. Though I guess the rise of emo and metalcore with the death of grunge and nu-metal are the main differences. I honestly couldn't tell you what music genre defines this decade or any decade since I don't have my ear to the mainstream ground.


And video game music is very good. Especially the quality rock and metal sounding stuff. I love it.

Eleo Apr 13, 2006 01:34 AM

Why does "video game" count as a genre of music? Like it's separate and distinct from any other kind of music.

"Hey wow a full orchestra, that sounds kind of like--"
"NOPE IT'S VIDEO GAME GENRE GTFO"
"Sarry"

Meth Apr 13, 2006 01:58 AM

i wouldn't say that "video game" is it's own genre of music, rather video games use music from many different genres. anybody who disagrees with this statment is dumb, because I said so.

Grubdog Apr 13, 2006 02:28 AM

Videogame music is designed for a different purpose, to compliment a particular setting in a game rather than sell itself.

vuigun Apr 13, 2006 11:05 AM

Exactly Grubdog. I'd say VGM has more emotion to it. I consider it to be a more free form genre of music.

Shampoo Suicide Apr 13, 2006 11:09 AM

What the hell, a lot of VGM is pretty much worthless outside the context of the game.

vuigun Apr 13, 2006 11:12 AM

You must be listening to average or bad VGM then.

Chaco Apr 15, 2006 11:13 PM

Mainstream Music doesn't have a wide variety of sound but Video game music does?

I'm sorry, What are you refering to when you say "Mainstream Music" exactly? Anything on the radio, Anything that isn't a video game or what?

If anything, I'd say "Mainstream" music has a much broader variety of tone, setting and feeling than video game music.

Before you kids crown me a 'vgm hataa!111!!1 gtfo gff", I just want to say I listen to VGM Music and "Mainstream" music.

I'm not into most shit on the radio personally, but just like game music, it has its ups and downs. You can't say as a whole one is better than the other. It's just not possible to prove it.

I'm not understanding the logic, I do however understand the bias.

vuigun Apr 15, 2006 11:49 PM

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Mainstream Music doesn't have a wide variety of sound but Video game music does?
No, it's just that you hear Mainstream music so much that it runs together after a while. There's always advertisements about what new song is hot and people generally all know those songs. Mainstream music is pretty much in your face all of the time so it's not really 'fresh' anymore.

Of course, I feel this way because I listen to all kinds of music, and I eventually got bored with it. VGM was a safe haven for me.

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I'm sorry, What are you refering to when you say "Mainstream Music" exactly? Anything on the radio, Anything that isn't a video game or what?
I explained this out some posts ago. Go back and look.

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Before you kids crown me a 'vgm hataa!111!!1 gtfo gff", I just want to say I listen to VGM Music and "Mainstream" music.
I do too. I probably listen to a bigger varitey of music than you too. Don't think just because I didn't get all positive on Mainstream Music, that it means I don't listen to it or like it. I love all kinds of music. I still consider VGM to be more fresh than it.

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If anything, I'd say "Mainstream" music has a much broader variety of tone, setting and feeling than video game music.
If you say so. I personally don't believe that. Mostly because most songs are about romances.

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I'm not into most shit on the radio personally, but just like game music, it has its ups and downs. You can't say as a whole one is better than the other. It's just not possible to prove it.

I didn't say it was better. I said I think it's Fresh.

Chaco Apr 16, 2006 04:48 PM

I wasn't refering to you particullarly at all. At least you didn't get all defensive.

I don't know. Mainstream music may appeal more to certain audiences (notably teenyboppers) but I think VGM has gotten just as worn down (not "fresh" anymore) by gamers as 'mainstream music' has by the teenybopper crowd. How many fucking times are we going to hear how "omfg awesome" "One Winged Angel" is? Or about how Nobeou is god and all other composers can 'suck my c0ck cuz nobuo is num. 1'.

There's people who make music less appealing for everyone. When you find yourself on a predominatly gaming-orientated forum, Some people are going to make you wanna throw a rock at them for being so annoying about certain songs or composers. Just like the mainstream crowd would annoy you for raving about the same shit over and over again.

To me, It's all the same shit. Music is Music. Mainstream, 'VGM', whatever. I really don't give a shit one way or the other.

vuigun Apr 16, 2006 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaco
To me, It's all the same shit. Music is Music. Mainstream, 'VGM', whatever. I really don't give a shit one way or the other.

Well, that's a good way to look at it.


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