Do you believe ESP?
 

I wonder if any of you actually believe one of theese so-called Extra Sensory Perception... so has anyone here has experienced any of these stuff? What do you say about ESP? Do you believe if human could actually do these?

I don't believe in ESP persay, but I definitely believe in connected brain patterns... Example, my roommate and I constantly have the same thing on our mind. If I don't bring it up, 9 times out of 10 he will. I think being in close quarters with someone sorta jumbles up the brain waves and gives you a connection in a way.

Personally, I dunno about ESP . . . once in a while, I think I may have dreamed of the future during my sleep. But it's never anything important either . . .

Do you know how happy I would be if I did all of my exams in my dreams? Anyways, my psych prof says that visions like that are pretty unreliable . . .

And what sprouticus said about connected brain patterns . . . could be true. They say that girls living in the same apartment will eventually tune the timing of their periods so they occur during the same time of the month.

I don't believe in ESP. If there was ever such a thing it would have been detected and verified years ago. Anything attributed to ESP is sheer coincidence. These coincidences may seem improbable but are coincidences nonetheless.

I don't believe in ESP as such, but I think sometimes through a combination of the sense we can be aware of someone/something without being able to directly attribute it to one sense or another.

Also, sometimes you know someone has entered the room, not because you see or hear them, but because you feel the change in air pressure as they open a door or enter.

Arrow, in my opinion, we get those types of signals all the time. If you were to walk outside blindfolded, you could probably accurately guess the weather. If there's a big storm coming, your eyes aren't the only things telling you of what looms. There's this feeling you get from it that's unnerving, and I think that maybe animals get that same feeling and react on something very similar to that.

We just choose to ignore them, attributing them to just chills from the mood. Animals are pretty keen with that 6th sense of natural danger.

I watched something about ESP on discovery. Sadly I don't remember the guy's name, but there was this kidnapping and he was able to pinpoint the building and which floor on that building the guy was being held. I think this was during the cold war when they went into the really weird stuff like ESP and the space race.

I don't believe in it though.

I haven't seen any kind of sound, scientific research on the topic. I've seen plenty of philosophy and pseudo-science on how telepathy, clairvoyange, telekinesis, etc are possible but I honestly don't feel it's possible or at least not on the level that would make it useful. Until science says something serious about it, I don't think I can really take it all that seriously.

http://www.espgame.org/

hehe, it's kind of fun.

Wow... I'm agreeing with Eleo.

Yeah, pretty much going along with the stuff that he has said.
I do not believe that there is any sort of high density repository of electromagnetic energy in the brain or anywhere else which would enable communications between minds or enable changes in anything physical. Although I do admit that there is a significant amount of energy tied into the processes of the brain, there is no way in hell that it is enough to enable such things.

However, I cannot deny that there are some interesting things that go on with people's minds. I will attest that a lot of my dreams are of a clairvoyant nature. I have dreamed many situations, and upon experiencing them I remember that I had dreamt them before. I cannot explain it, but it does not seem that they can really be tied down to "random firings" of neurons.
There appears to be some level of the mystical tied in with the mind, but I do not think that it does nor can extend to any level such as seen in ESP.

I'm pretty sure that, though cool, any of the things that are percieved as being ESP are purely coincedental (sp?). Me and my friend have things like this happen all the time, but thats just becuase we think alike, not because we are connected my some ESP garbage. It would be cool, but I don't think its real.

If ESP is real (quite possible), then we've barely even begun to tap into it. It's not just luck that causes some to be able to predict the future. But it could just be that they were better at anticipating events based on knowledge and wisdom than they thought. There still are many capablities of the huamn brain we have left to reveal, if EPS is in there or not, it's still nice to know we have room to grow as a species.

Whole-heartedly believe. Of course, it helps if it occurs/occured semi-regularly for you, and is accurate a good 95% of the time (and only not accurate when you realize you're sooth-saying and consciously make changes to avoid a certain predicted outcome). This includes full conversations, events, etc.

Ohhhh yeah. I can definitely say that I believe in it. I've also had quite a few dreams of the future. I used to be able to recall them when I woke up (and one time was mistakenly lead to believe a site I was following was updated because I dreamt I was browsing it), but now it almost never happens. It's odd, though. When I'm in the middle of experiencing what I dreamed, it's almost like "Okay, so and so is going to happen," and it does.

Can you name any other useful, innate human ability that took several hundred years to discover?

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People have been talking about ESP in one form or another since the dawn of known human history...

have they? i've never heard of it though.... personally i find esp hard to take seriously cos i don't see how it could work at all...

Along with other fantastical things that don't logically exist.

My point was, unlike obvious abilities such as walking, ESP is not a self-evident human ability.

That said, I found the idea of it needing to be "tapped in to" unlikely as it seems illogical to say that it exists even in a very weak, undeveloped state. Walking, for example, is something a human learns and gets considerably better with over time. Wouldn't ESP follow the same trend, if we truly possessed such an ability?

ESP is conceptually useful, so one would think that at an early age - if it existed - that we'd learn to use it to our advantage. Such is not the case.

Eleo your assuming that such abilities are present in everyone, which may not be the case.

I'm assuming that because I find it to be logical. I'd imagine that such abilities would permeate a group of people - genetically, if anything - large enough for it to be noticeable.

I mean, can you name any other abilities that are known to exist but be incredibly rare? When I say that, I mean specific things most people are totally incapable of; not innate proficiency in abilities that most people possess like music or mathematics.

I don't know that many people who are able to dislocate every joint in their body and fit themselves inside a suitcase, then fit themselves back together again. Nor am I able to perform this feat myself or could I with practice. Therefore, this is an ability that some people have and some do not.

Actually, you probably could do it. With a lot of painful practice and training. I think it's an "ability" than everybody has, to dislocate their joints. Some can do it much more easily than others, earning it the status of "talent".

You know, I saw some advertisment promoting ESP below this thread. does any of them actually work? Or they just fool curious people, believing that they could have some telekinesis power by joining some ESP centre?

oh man i'm having fun with this, can you tell i'm incredibly bored.

As for the subject I have to agree with sprouticus on it all, the whole connection thing with people who you live with or know for a long time I get a lot. Other than that I don't believe in anything else since i've never encountered it, i'm a i'll believe it when I see it person.

i don't belive in ESP

I might be mistaken but this falls into the category of an ability we all have but in which we are rarely proficient. Last I checked anyone could force their joints to dislocate, it's just that most people don't want to because it is both unnecessary and unpleasant.

I swear that one or two times a year, something will happen that was in a dream (not approximately, but perfect both in sound and image) that had occured in the last week. I normally don't believe in a lot of this stuff, but damn, it's hard to say that something isn't going on once you've seen it yourself.

- WraithTwo -

Ok, first of all, that ESP game IS addictive! I played, like, ten round sin a row....but my highest score was 1000. Most people choose haircolor when a picture of a woman is shown, but woman is a taboo word. Not the same for men. At least I don't think so.

I think people can have their minds on the same track. I have often thought my husband and I had some kind of weird brain connection because we will think of the same things around the same time, or do the same things (like play with Google Earth) even though he is at work and I am at home. I don't know if that's ESP, though.

Dunno about you, but it's something I'm physically unable to do...unless I want to break my bones.

Can you do it?

Sure.

Dont know if this counts as ESP or not, but i knew there would be a thread of this nature here ;) :P

I'll tell you what, if you add an 'N' to the ESP.. I think I would. Infact, I think I am gonna go watch some ESPN right now.. That stuff is amazing... The way he shoots the ball, slaps the puck... It has to be some sort of magic.. Something! CUz that's just way to amazing to be done by any regular humans!

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Okay then. Have someone take your photo while doing it, then post it.

I believe that all minds have the capability of more advanced thought processes, ESP, Telepathy, and generally more power than people give it right now. However, there are limits on our minds right now to gradually introduce these into society. You know that saying that we only use 10% of our minds? I believe that once we start getting past that 10%, we get into the brain powers that we find amusing in comic books now and days. I think those powers may start unlocking around 30% though. Our minds constantly need more memory. We are like walking RAM.

I believe that statement is false.

http://staff.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

True, There is some truth to that. But that's only because We use all sections of our brain in different parts. Plus that site doesn't seem legit, even for a .edu website, it doesn't state any proper references nor experiments. It also says that there is a lack of proof. Well that is a double edged sword. There isn't proof that we use all of our brains is there? I think that if we use all 1,300 grams of our brain, then we could unlock other abilities.

Yeah, so where's the gosh damn brainkey to open up all these superhuman abilities I've been keeping locked away all these years. Can't let over a thousand grams of brain tissue go to waste.

Aparently no one has found it yet. I would imagine it to be a very hard lock to crack without the key. WHo knows what the key could be. Something that could be man made or it could be something supernatural.

All ESP-related events, supernatural, mystical, magical, and UFOs are nothing but extra virgin bullshit.

http://www.randi.org/

The James Randi Educational Foundation is a non-profit learning resource aimed at promoting critical thinking everywhere.

GAME OVER

Double Post:
Now THIS is ESP.

Michael Romeo from Symphony X uses them.

They're cool.

http://www.espguitars.com/guitars.html

If it has a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
--- Winston Zeddemore in Ghostbusters

A friend of mine had lung cancer. He was going to die sometime, but nobody knew exactly when. One night, his wife woke up at about 3am with the exact realization that it was time. She got out of bed and went to his side. He smiled and said "I knew you'd come". They shared a last moment holding each other's hands, and he expired.

For that reason, I believe ESP is not completely dismissable, but still could only truly be defined as a miracle until the complete science of the human brain is figured out.