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Dr. Uzuki Aug 4, 2010 07:15 PM

Props and the Consert Hall
 
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against boonsen. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all that. But out of the last 50 props as of the time of this post, he has 28 of them, 34 of belonging to the classical recordings thread in general. Personally, I don't mind these dudes showing appreciation in other people's uploading, but when it floods the page, I can't catch up on all the forum hilarity. Hilarity is slipping through my fingertips.

I know this isn't a new idea, but let's get the ball rolling again. If any one of you administrator-y types could possibly create an optional filter for what forums display on the props page, you'd be enriching my Gamingforce experience, I'm sure others' would be enhanced as well. It's a win/win, you're not taking any privilege away from the classical loving chaps, just giving the rest of us the option to collectively ignore them.

Or, if it's easier to just universally bar that forum from appearing on the props page, I'm good with that too.

Zephyrin Aug 4, 2010 07:41 PM

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/...99798484_m.jpg

Nooooo....my precious lulz!

Buckwalt Aug 4, 2010 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki (Post 765255)
Or, if it's easier to just universally bar that forum from appearing on the props page, I'm good with that too.

I could have sworn that this was supposed to have happened the last time someone opened up the Concert Hall can of shit that everyone seems to love around here. Anyhow, I hope this happens this time around.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Aug 4, 2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckwalt (Post 765263)
I could have sworn that this was supposed to have happened the last time someone opened up the Concert Hall can of shit that everyone seems to love around here. Anyhow, I hope this happens this time around.

What. More like...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckwalt (Post 765263)
Hello, I am in a position to help this part of the forum in doing what you ask and am here to say something. Having said that, I will now leave and not do anything at all. Thank you.


nuttyturnip Aug 4, 2010 08:19 PM

Buckwalt is just a Moderator, like me. Other than handing out infractions and messing with threads in our assigned forums, there's not much we can do.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Aug 4, 2010 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 765266)
Buckwalt is just a Moderator, like me. Other than handing out infractions and messing with threads in our assigned forums, there's not much we can do.

Yeah, I get that he's not an admin or whatever - but walking in and saying HEY THIS SHOULDVE HAPPENED LAST TIME BLAH BLAH SNARF is like middle management walking in and loudly correcting a CEO in the middle of a presentation.

(The single difference between my saying it and his saying it is that I am not a moderator, and it is not my point to manage.)

Radez Aug 4, 2010 08:33 PM

In all fairness, Dr. Uzuki would be more like the guy presenting to the CEO while the affected middle-manager bitches at the CEO that he should have done something the LAST time around.

In either scenario the dude would be canned. <3

Misogynyst Gynecologist Aug 4, 2010 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radez29 (Post 765268)
In all fairness, Dr. Uzuki would be more like the guy presenting to the CEO while the affected middle-manager bitches at the CEO that he should have done something the LAST time around.

The difference is tone and pecking order here. Uzuki, nice guy he is, ain't marked down as staff while Buckwalt specifically manages this end of the yard. Not to mention the difference between "Hello I noticed something" and "Oh yeah shit WHY DOESNT SOMEONE ELSE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT I HAVE TOO MANY TPS REPORTS RIGHT NOW.

No. Hard Pass. Aug 4, 2010 08:57 PM

We need a cover sheet on those.

There was a memo.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 4, 2010 09:04 PM

PC LOAD LETTER?!

nuttyturnip Aug 5, 2010 07:26 AM

Maybe we should take the communist approach, and any props given in Concert Hall are instead distributed to other GFF members.

Ozma Aug 5, 2010 08:33 AM

The posts in The Musician's Library has been rendered to not appear on the latest 5 posts. Can't the same thing be applied on props to solve the riddle?

Zephyrin Aug 6, 2010 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 765333)
Maybe we should take the communist approach, and any props given in Concert Hall are instead distributed to other GFF members.

I believe in the socialist approach in which all props and disses are operated by the moderation and are handed out for use at their discretion.

Franky Mikey Aug 7, 2010 03:37 AM

People aren't even "showing appreciation": the guy actually requires that his posts be propped to PM people the links to his uploads. Kind of similar to these Facebook pages you have to "like" before you can see the actual content.

Frolov Aug 7, 2010 08:13 AM

[hide] tag features works good.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 7, 2010 08:19 AM

If you're basically holding the files for ransom under the insistence that they prop you first, then the entire exercise of filesharing ceases to be an example of generosity and turns into an absurdist kiss-my-ring processional.

Yes, if people are allowed to download files without "thanking" you first, they'll do so. And the problem with this state of affairs would be...?

Additional Spam:
Ah, yes, this makes them "leechers", far inferior to their cousins the "leechers who can press a button."

Frolov Aug 7, 2010 08:34 AM

Huzzah!!!!!!!

The unmovable stubborn Aug 7, 2010 08:41 AM

If you love these other forums so much why don't you marry them

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 7, 2010 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frolov (Post 765515)
Remember that other forums with the "thank you" button allow you to download only if you have collected 10 "thanks". This means that the member needs to contribute something first before being able to donwload anything.
It is superflous to say that torrent forums have a DL/UP ratio. If the ratio drops below a limit then downloading is blocked and only uploading is encouraged in order to improve the ratio. This certainly helps in regulating the place and assures that transactions proceed smoothly....

Except we don't have a system in place that forces anyone to contribute anything in order to access anything. Trying to jackhammer one in by abusing a system that's meant for silly is kinda :/

And comparing it to a torrent site where you're using your own bandwidth is silly, because you have MEDIAFIRE LINKS. Not only is it not inconveniencing you in any way, shape or form if one or a thousand people grab it, there is no way to track or encourage sharing or contributions.

It's e-dick sucking and you're being a wiener. That's all there is to it.

The **Hidden Content**

*Not for Zerg to be ridiculous with

Misogynyst Gynecologist Aug 7, 2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent Di Gun Him (Post 765518)
Except we don't have a system in place that forces anyone to contribute anything in order to access anything. Trying to jackhammer one in by abusing a system that's meant for silly is kinda :/

And comparing it to a torrent site where you're using your own bandwidth is silly, because you have MEDIAFIRE LINKS. Not only is it not inconveniencing you in any way, shape or form if one or a thousand people grab it, there is no way to track or encourage sharing or contributions.

It's e-dick sucking and you're being a wiener. That's all there is to it.

I enjoy this post.

Frolov is all "BABY ITS TOO BIG IT WONT FIT".

And Agent Di Gun Him is all "OH YOU'LL MAKE IT FIT BITCH".

Sarag Aug 7, 2010 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frolov (Post 765515)
No, it is not an absurdity of kiss-my-ring processional.
Uploaders are just taking some minimum precautions against leechers.

If I was the only person providing content for a site, I would stop going to that site. I don't need props to tell me that I'm the only person providing content to that site, I would know because I am not retarded.

I hope this helps.

Zergrinch Aug 8, 2010 12:45 AM

Back in the day when My Stuff was vogue, it WAS customary for people to post what they're downloading from an FTP, or face a ban from the FTP runner. I suppose the prop system is an extension of this system.

Still, any time I see one of those prop-demanding posts, a strong urge to click the diss button develops. Most of the time, I don't. Should I always indulge such urges?

___


Also, I am an afficionado of the use of hide tags to prevent leeching. I do not understand why Colonel Skills hate them so much, when he doesn't even have to unhide them :(

Mersenne Aug 8, 2010 01:48 AM

So Pang finally gets it. The 'usage' of props in the concert hall has been diverted far from its orginal intent. In fact, the result of such prop-conditioning has become frickin' ridiculous: where there once was words to the effect of 'thank you' and some small semblance of appreciation, there now is a robotic churn of piano posts with 30 mindless props a piece. The same names predictably reappear: leechers now trained to press a button.

I say get rid of the prop/diss button in the CH altogether. But first, make props = disses and disses = props in the concert hall.

Lousy Aug 8, 2010 03:44 AM

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/s...frech/h010.gif

Misogynyst Gynecologist Aug 8, 2010 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mersenne (Post 765574)
I say get rid of the prop/diss button in the CH altogether. But first, make props = disses and disses = props in the concert hall.

I suggest props and disses in the concert hall = disses.

No. Hard Pass. Aug 8, 2010 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lousy (Post 765578)
hehe. all those hundreds of props within 2 weeks made me actually somewhat dizzy and i almost got addicted (the number of props reflecting my level of XYZ) to it *ggg* so if ne1 needs to call me names ..begin with my nick
http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/s...frech/h010.gif
(victimized & R.I.P)

Clearly CH was the best of us.

Single Elbow Aug 8, 2010 11:53 AM

I'd say that every concert hall prop extends lousy's ban time for another hour.

Sarag Aug 8, 2010 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lousy (Post 765578)
hehe. all those hundreds of props within 2 weeks made me actually somewhat dizzy and i almost got addicted (the number of props reflecting my level of XYZ) to it *ggg* so if ne1 needs to call me names ..begin with my nick
http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/s...frech/h010.gif
(victimized & R.I.P)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to tell me.

Zephyrin Aug 8, 2010 02:05 PM

What's up with the CH'ers editing their posts? Are they really that finicky?

Edit: I drink cold, tall glasses of scrotum juice daily

Dr. Uzuki Aug 9, 2010 03:08 AM

Guys, listen, hush up. These are two worlds that can coexist by simple non-observation. I had hoped by my pleasantries that we could float over the actual politics of the CH. You've all just shattered my faith. How you sleep at night is anybody's guess.

I still don't see anything wrong with the original suggestions, other than I misspelled concert.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Aug 10, 2010 06:35 AM

Clearly the most important step to take here is for anyone whose chocopie shows CH as their primary posting destination needs to be prohibited from editing their own posts.

Secondly those same people need their prop totals reset to zero.

Thirdly we remove the prop button in CH and replace it with a massive picture of a cock that you have to stroke repeatedly to access the content of the post.

This, I believe, will be a satisfactory solution for everyone.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 10, 2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 765768)
Clearly the most important step to take here is for anyone whose chocopie shows CH as their primary posting destination needs to be prohibited from editing their own posts.

Usergroup "CH Asshole" up and ready to rock. These two assclowns are already part of it.

Kolba Aug 10, 2010 10:45 AM

While we're talking about props, can we hide the props for the staff room or whatever that place is called? They don't appear on the complete prop page, but they do show up in the little prop window on the main page, and everytime it happens it's like a collective brag that we're not members of your secret gang. Usually we can just leave you to it.

In this day and age I don't know why there isn't complete transparency anyway.

Tails Aug 10, 2010 10:54 AM

I can't believe this thread is still going. Oh and that people actually expect CHz to take up your silly requests. Why would he do that? Watching you whine about trivial shit (the mod hut props for instance) is way funnier, and probably a lot easier. Fixing these things to suit your needs would kill the funny. Basically it's like this:

YouTube Video

That's you guys on the right, CHz on the left.

nuttyturnip Aug 10, 2010 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorfox (Post 765784)
I can't believe this thread is still going. Oh and that people actually expect CHz to take up your silly requests. Why would he do that? Watching you whine about trivial shit (the mod hut props for instance) is way funnier, and probably a lot easier. Fixing these things to suit your needs would kill the funny.

You say as you prop 3 posts in the Hut purely to piss people off. I agree, props in the Mod Hut shouldn't show up on the front page, it's obnoxious to those who can't see the posts. If I see a prominent member has been propped, I generally check to see the post, because it's probably worth reading. If most of our members can't see the post, what's the point in telling them?

Tails Aug 10, 2010 11:18 AM

Or you could, you know read the forums. That's the real problem here. You want the five latest posts and the latest props page to tell you everything that's going on so you don't actually bother viewing or reading all the threads. Then people of course wonder what's with the lack of activity. It surely wouldn't have anything to do with people wanting the convenience of just reading a few propped posts (OMG SO FUNNY) and then rolling out.


Also those were worthwhile posts in the Hut I never got around to properly doing, thank you very much. :colbert:

E: In addendum, this whole thing is dumb because initially it was conceived that the prop system in CH was an acceptable substitute to all the empty thank you posts, and now that several people (and by several I mean what, a grand total of THREE?) have taken to abusing this suddenly we should punish all of them. Oh no my 50 prop long recent list is full of CH posts, ;___;

I don't have a problem with dealing with/singling out boosen/lousy/Frolov but everything else suggested here is just pedantic whining hth

ee: Consert Hall?

nuttyturnip Aug 10, 2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorfox (Post 765787)
Or you could, you know read the forums. That's the real problem here. You want the five latest posts and the latest props page to tell you everything that's going on so you don't actually bother viewing or reading all the threads. Then people of course wonder what's with the lack of activity. It surely wouldn't have anything to do with people wanting the convenience of just reading a few propped posts (OMG SO FUNNY) and then rolling out.

Actually no. To quote myself from the Mod Hut (where I was told I was nuts):

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip
I'm on the fence about "Latest 5 posts". On the one hand, it's useful to see new activity, but they also become a self-fulfilling prophecy. The theads listed there get the most activity, and people don't bother to actually look in forums for other new posts (I'm guilty of this too).


Tails Aug 10, 2010 11:24 AM

Protip: Five latest props is the same thing, only with thumbs instead of words.

nuttyturnip Aug 10, 2010 11:30 AM

Yes, I was aware of that. You're getting after folks for relying on props instead of browsing forums, and I'm saying the same principle is true for Most Recent Posts. It was a handy thing when we had dozens of new posts an hour, but now it stifles activity. If your post isn't getting propped or in the Most Recent, it will probably fall by the wayside.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Aug 10, 2010 05:27 PM

But once you've made five posts, the latest five posts thingy becomes useless. I never look at the latest props thing either because the posts open in new windows which I find annoying.

Also, keeping the Hut props on that thing is important as it reminds the rest of you how great all us mod types are.

Kolba Aug 10, 2010 05:41 PM

Just scrap the entire prop system. Has it actually got any purpose?

No. Hard Pass. Aug 10, 2010 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kolba (Post 765825)
Just scrap the entire prop system. Has it actually got any purpose?

Yes. Yes it does.

The prop system exists because sometimes an idiotic comment doesn't need a full reply. Sometimes all you need is a nice reminder their idea/comment/life outlook is stupid.

THE POWER OF WATER Aug 10, 2010 06:14 PM

Or, like Captain Tridegree up there, you can reply to the post and diss it at the same time, thus doubly registering your dissatisfaction.

At Gamingforce, we strive to provide you, the user, with as many avenues as possible of telling other people they have fucked up now.

Maris Sep 24, 2012 03:03 PM

*bump*

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Sep 26, 2012 04:26 PM

Hahahaha, can we re-instate the awards this year so I can nominate that for post of the year?


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