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Elixir Apr 11, 2006 06:17 PM

Xbox murder trial to begin
 
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The trial of three defendants accused of killing six people over an Xbox is set to begin next week. Troy Victorino, 29, Robert Cannon and Michael Salas, both 20, and Jerone Hunter, 19, are accused of beating six acquaintances to death with aluminum baseball bats during Victorino's attempt to reclaim an Xbox that he left behind after being kicked out of a house he had been squatting in. One of the victims apparently took the Xbox and some of Victorino's other belongings with her when she moved out. Cannon has pleaded guilty to first-degree murder in the attacks, and will be testifying against the other three in exchange for a life sentence. The other three defendants face the death penalty.

Attorneys for the defendants have attempted to get the trial moved from Orlando to south Florida, arguing that a fair trial is all-but-impossible given the amounts of pretrial publicity and the sensational nature of the crime.

Victorino and the other defendants had apparently threatened their victims in the days ahead of the slayings, as he was determined to get back the Xbox at any cost. He and the other three allegedly broke into a residence where some of the victims were sleeping, beating them all to death with baseball bats before departing with the console that one of the victims had taken with her after she moved.

At the time of the slayings Victorino was on probation for a near-deadly assault committed in 1996. Just a week before the slayings, Victorino was arrested for punching a man, which violated the terms of his parole. His probation officer's failure to have him jailed after the assault resulted in him and three of his supervisors being fired shortly after the murders occurred.

With the topic of videogame violence and its possible real-world ramifications a hot topic of conversation these days, the trial is already drawing a lot of media attention since an Xbox was involved. It could just as easily be a laptop, a TV set, or a stereo that occasioned the killings. This is not videogame-related violence. This is "someone has some of my stuff and I'm going to kill them in the process of getting it back" violence.
Source.

Save the "XBOX IS HUEG, LOL XBOX KILLS" comments. It's been done. I really have no comment on this except, wow. I don't know why somebody would go to such an extreme length just to retrieve back a few belongings and an xbox.

Neogin Apr 11, 2006 06:23 PM

Don't get me wrong, I like the XBOX and all, but..why the XBOX? All this..conflict over a 20 pound console..

Kimchi Apr 11, 2006 07:13 PM

This is fucking funny. Funnier then a girl in China forgot to eat while playing WoW. And a guy in Twian forgot to DRINK while playing CS:S. While in Korea they forget to sleep,eat,drink,pee,poop,breath.

Newbie1234 Apr 11, 2006 07:30 PM

Over an Xbox?? Damn... Must be a Halo addict, because I can't see any other Xbox game having such an influence on a person's behavior.

Tube Apr 11, 2006 07:43 PM

Yes, it was clearly one particular video game that caused this man with a long history of violence to use violence while seeking to reclaim his property. Dumbass.

russ Apr 11, 2006 07:45 PM

The $180 price tag on an Xbox is a lot when you're a worthless excuse for a human being, one who likely has never made more than minimum wage in his life.

Obviously this person was capable of such behavior, as evidenced by the fact that he was on probation for assaulting someone ten years ago.

Not to mention that people killed each other long before video games were invented, as evidenced by such things any war fought before 1975 or any murder which took place before 1975. People are capable of killing each other and have always been capable of killing each other. The person, place, or thing which sets them off may change, but the fact that people are capable of it, and require little motivation stays the same.


edit: why did they use baseball bats, why didn't they just drop the console on each victim's head, seriously.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Apr 11, 2006 08:22 PM

They must have been some pretty big Steel Battalion fans. Even then, that game is only worth killing one person at best for, not this.

kensuke Apr 11, 2006 08:34 PM

It's a pity the guy was already an ex-convict well before the xbox was out..

"the media was quick to paint the horrific crime as another case of game-inspired violence. This, despite the fact that Victorino had been in jail nearly a full decade before the Xbox even hit the market."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6147410.html

Josiah Apr 11, 2006 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kensuke
It's a pity the guy was already an ex-convict well before the xbox was out..

"the media was quick to paint the horrific crime as another case of game-inspired violence. This, despite the fact that Victorino had been in jail nearly a full decade before the Xbox even hit the market."

Oh of course, the media. Heaven forbid that violent TV or movies could have such an effect on people. *cough*

But really, six people? That's not game-related violence, that's serious mental issues.

Lizardcommando Apr 11, 2006 09:06 PM

A PS2 I can understand... even a Gamecube... but a Xbox? A FUCKING XBOX?! Goddamn... Why an Xbox of all consoles?! You can play more than half of the games on the PC and other consoles.

Spoiler:
(OOOPS WHAT I SAID EARLIER WAS TOO HURTFUL AND OFFENSIVE!!!!!!!!!11111)

Sexninja Apr 11, 2006 09:07 PM

Now gamers are extremist too.

russ Apr 11, 2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lizardcommando
A PS2 I can understand... even a Gamecube... but a Xbox? A FUCKING XBOX?! Goddamn... Why an Xbox of all consoles?! You can play more than half of the games on the PC and other consoles.

I want to kill those fuckers. I want to FUCKING KILL them. What they did is sickening and wrong. They deserve to die horribly and painfully. I'd cut up the leader (I'm assuming Victorino is the leader) with a chainsaw, stab his temples with two bowie knives and then shoot him with a sawed-off double barrel shotgun and then stomp on his corpse and then smear his remains on the floor so I'd demoralize the group. After that, I'd throw the stolen Xbox at Cannon Man and then light him on fire with a molotov cocktail and then break his fucking skull with a sledgehammer and then I'd stab the other 20 year old guy in the eye with a pick axe and then run him over with my car and blow up my car to obliterate his remains. After that I'd just blow off the last standing guy's kneecaps off with a .45 caliber pistol and beat him to a pulp with a shovel.

It sounds to me like someone should explain to you the difference between fantasy and reality.

Lizardcommando Apr 11, 2006 09:39 PM

I know what the difference is between reality and fiction, jerk. >: (

I'm sorry, I get very pissed off everytime I read about some senseless murder like this one. I just feel so helpless reading about how some sicko just goes in and kills some people for some useless crap. I'll calm down now.

In fact, I'll do better, I'll just get rid that part I wrote.

WolfDemon Apr 11, 2006 11:07 PM

Perfect. Jack Thompson is gonna have a field day with this one.

Lizardcommando Apr 11, 2006 11:11 PM

Well thank god his arguement would be invalid:

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Originally Posted by Jack Thompson
Duuur, da vidja gayms made dem do its!

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Originally Posted by kensuke
It's a pity the guy was already an ex-convict well before the xbox was out..

"the media was quick to paint the horrific crime as another case of game-inspired violence. This, despite the fact that Victorino had been in jail nearly a full decade before the Xbox even hit the market."

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6147410.htm


]-Ac3-[ Apr 11, 2006 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by russ
It sounds to me like someone should explain to you the difference between fantasy and reality.

Sadly it sounds to me like someone should explain to you the difference between "Figure of speech" and "literal speech"... http://www.btnhboard.com/forums/imag...es/icon_no.gif

Helloween Apr 11, 2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon
Perfect. Jack Thompson is gonna have a field day with this one.

He's probably expiriencing an 8 hour erection at the moment.

Man, some people in this world need help, especially those who would kill over an Xbox, or any gamesystem. Killing is wrong, especially over something as trivial as a piece of entertainment hardware. I'm sure that the Xbox wasn't the largest thing on the list of things to get pissed off over. The fact that an Xbox was on the list meant instant orgasm for reporters, cause video game related violence is a hot topic.

]-Ac3-[ Apr 12, 2006 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Helloween
He's probably expiriencing an 8 hour erection at the moment.

Man, some people in this world need help, especially those who would kill over an Xbox, or any gamesystem. Killing is wrong, especially over something as trivial as a piece of entertainment hardware. I'm sure that the Xbox wasn't the largest thing on the list of things to get pissed off over. The fact that an Xbox was on the list meant instant orgasm for reporters, cause video game related violence is a hot topic.

Something tells me he didn't kill these people over the xbox. He must of had a problem with these people for a while... that tells me he killed them simply over the matter of principle. He was tired of the BS and wanted to end it once and for all. He said "fuck the xbox" I have to show these fools they can't keep doing "this" to me. blam... murder *sigh*

I seriously doubt he gave a shit about the xbox

Magic Apr 12, 2006 12:51 AM

I'm willing to bet that the issue goes beyond the fact that it was an X-Box. Those of you saying "zomg why kill someone over an xbox?" have probably never had anything expensive stolen from them. If you have, consider how angry you were, and then multiply that anger to the level of a convict.

kensuke Apr 12, 2006 01:14 AM

Why are we even arguing about it being because of the xbox? Him and his mates got kicked out of a house, one of them is an ex-convict, and they thought "hey, lets go kill those guys and we'll pick up my xbox while we're there"..

Lizardcommando Apr 12, 2006 01:41 AM

I'm pretty sure everyone's just joking about that part.

Of course, it should be obvious those involved in that senseless act of violence deserve should be severely punished.

Magic Apr 12, 2006 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kensuke
Why are we even arguing about it being because of the xbox?

Hell if I know. I'm not the one who decided this was newsworthy.

B4-Hunter Apr 12, 2006 03:24 AM

Now you see why XBOX is bad... Why PS2 don't kill people or people don't kill for PS2? Yeah most of you will say "Cause it's not worth it." But what is the purpose of killing for XBOX if you will not be able to play it again? Maybe in jail you can have your XBOX with you =)? Anyway they'll be dead by now.

Lukage Apr 12, 2006 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon
Perfect. Jack Thompson is gonna have a field day with this one.

Ass Attorney.

Maybe there can then be a sequel to "I'm OK"

Newbie1234 Apr 12, 2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeRacer
Yes, it was clearly one particular video game that caused this man with a long history of violence to use violence while seeking to reclaim his property. Dumbass.

LOL, my bad, I should have read the whole article.

russ Apr 12, 2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ]-Ac3-[
Sadly it sounds to me like someone should explain to you the difference between "Figure of speech" and "literal speech"...

"I want to kill them" is where the figure of speech ends. The following paragraph detailing the sadistic torture he wants to inflict on the perpetrators does not fall under the "figure of speech" umbrella, I am sorry. What if someone who believes that video games promote violent behavior read this kid's little speech? Their reaction would be "Gosh I wonder where he got the ideas for those torture methods from, Grand Theft Auto or some other video game, I am sure!"

Mobius One Apr 12, 2006 02:23 PM

This is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Now videogames are going to get even more bad press. But it's not even that, the fact that these kinds of retards exist all over the place makes me hope for some kind of world war so that natural selection can take place. I hope they all get the death penalty, and the one that's testafying, I hope he gets raped 300,000 times in prison.

Xardion Apr 12, 2006 04:03 PM

I'd be mad if someone stole my xbox. I mean, it's a lot of trouble to write a thank you note.

Darkcomet72 Apr 12, 2006 04:21 PM

Although Devo is right, someone tell me the chances that the Media will Twist this into "6 people killed over XBOX".

Of course it had to be in Florida. :(

Elixir Apr 12, 2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic
Those of you saying "zomg why kill someone over an xbox?" have probably never had anything expensive stolen from them. If you have, consider how angry you were, and then multiply that anger to the level of a convict.

I remember when our house was broken into, whoever it was stole my Megadrive and games. I kept the instruction manuals seperate in my mother's room, in a small drawer, seperate from the games. Why? I don't know. But they took them as well, as if they knew.

The funny thing is they only took certain things. Like the Megadrive, VCR, but not the tv. This was in 1997 though, and I'm pretty sure my best friend's parents were behind it. They were dutch, and they invited us over for a party. The father had to go to a "business meeting" soon after we arrived, and then we find out that we've been broken in to after leaving. So yeah, it was kind of obvious.

It was even more obvious when we saw them in a different location(they were moving, hence the dinner party) and they hopped back into their car and speeded off as soon as they saw us.

I'd still like to smack them in the face, especially the dad, because I'm 99% positive that it was him. But we can't prove it, so what can you do? Nothing, really. But if I caught somebody with my gear I'd definitely get violent. I'm not even a violent person, but messing with people's gear isn't wise.

Lizardcommando Apr 12, 2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by russ
"I want to kill them" is where the figure of speech ends. The following paragraph detailing the sadistic torture he wants to inflict on the perpetrators does not fall under the "figure of speech" umbrella, I am sorry. What if someone who believes that video games promote violent behavior read this kid's little speech? Their reaction would be "Gosh I wonder where he got the ideas for those torture methods from, Grand Theft Auto or some other video game, I am sure!"

And why else did you think I got rid of it in the first place?!? So some jerk ass doesn't get the idea that... oh forget it. It's been mentioned already. :annoyed:

And I'm not a kid. I KNOW what's right and wrong. I KNOW the difference between fiction and what's reality. Stop making accusations. I was venting my anger out, OK? Don't worry, I'm ok now. I've calmed down since that post. I'm not gonna kill anyone or do I want to find those murderers and kill them. I'll let the legal system deal with those scumbags. I just hope they get the death penalty.

So just forget it, OK?

russ Apr 12, 2006 06:32 PM

You getting all upset like this is just so cute. I just want to pinch your little cheeks.

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I was just venting my anger out, OK?
Hey man, the individuals cited in the article on which this thread is based were just venting their anger, ok? So we should just forget about what they did, OK?

Lizardcommando Apr 12, 2006 06:46 PM

The individuals cited... the murderers? They were venting their anger? Gee, of course they were! Well, in an unhealthy, sick, disgusting, harmful to others kind of way, they were.

Ok, ok... I'll drop the useless arguement now. Let's just forgive and forget. Deal? :biggrin:

And please tell me that first comment was sarcasm.

Kaleb.G Apr 12, 2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Devolicious
If people read closely enough they'd realize it's less about the xbox and more about his property not being returned. Nice reading comprehension from those of you who think "omg why did he kill for an XBOX."

Yes, and on this note, I'm moving this thread to Gen Disc.

Thanks for the reports. ;)

nanashiusako Apr 14, 2006 09:21 PM

Why would they point out the system? The system didn't make them do it...they were sick freaks already. God, the media makes me sick, Sick, SICK.

Chaotic Apr 14, 2006 10:21 PM

It was BECAUSE of the system. THAT'S what made them do it... Sheesh.

I mean, you must be some sort of friend to drag other people in to kill someone JUST for an XBOX. I mean if it were for a child or maybe a car or something, but an XBOX is ridiculous... Utterly ridiculous.

splur Apr 14, 2006 10:30 PM

I'm sure it was the Beat Your Ass to a Pulp with an Aluminum Bat game which was released on Xbox which influenced them to do this. lol.

Oh well, they'll die too. They're worthless pond scum whom will probably kill again. So just get them outta the way, death sentence YEAH! I'm not pro death sentence btw, but in this case I think it's a great idea.

Chaotic Apr 14, 2006 10:38 PM

We'll probably see a game on the XBOX exactly like that...

Atomic Duck Apr 14, 2006 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nanashiusako
Why would they point out the system? The system didn't make them do it...they were sick freaks already. God, the media makes me sick, Sick, SICK.

Uh-oh... expecting the media to be intelligent... dangerous thinking there xp
But seriously, the media is incapable of doing anything besides throwing meaningless code words together.

Honestly, I can't figure out how anyone can look at that guy's criminal record and think this was all because of an XBox. I know Jack Thompson probably orgasmed at the thought, but he takes joy off of anything involving inaccurate data and requiring total ignorance to believe and uses it to be his mean-spirited bastard of a self. But Jack Thompson also ranks 2nd on my list of people most likely to eat puppies for breakfast, right after bin Laden.

And let's just pretend for a moment it really was for an XBox... while no game system is worth killing over, an XBox? The console whose sole purpose is to wrestle more money from PC gamers?

Zio Apr 14, 2006 11:20 PM

Rather stupid I must say, more then likely if she was not going to give it back. All he had to do was pull out a piece of paper that says you bought it,(Yes, I save them just in case.) and then call the cops or do what I do as well, etch your name into the bottom of the console. That way it's even more solid proof.

Meh, there was better ways at getting his stuff back then to kill the people.

Oh and btw, no matter WHERE they move the trial. Come on... It's like those MJ trials. No matter where they are held, the jury is going to already be prejudice to a certain degree rather they hate or like him.

tidus1222 Apr 14, 2006 11:49 PM

if an xbox is in the game may that sin murder has some of reasons for make what he makes.

Cirno Apr 15, 2006 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by tidus1222
if an xbox is in the game may that sin murder has some of reasons for make what he makes.

lol. lol. lol.

What. If you were going to post in Moonspeak, the least you could've added was "XBOX IS HUEG."

Elixir Apr 15, 2006 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by a_master_is_out
lol. lol. lol.

What. If you were going to post in Moonspeak, the least you could've added was "XBOX IS HUEG."

http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/se...searchid=76880

He's going to have a really successful future here.

Chaotic Apr 15, 2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tidus1222
if an xbox is in the game may that sin murder has some of reasons for make what he makes.

Yeah... What?

All your posts are huge run-on sentences...

But seriously, there's nothing like a no0b with numbers in his name to throw off the discussion.

DBCE Slayer Apr 15, 2006 01:24 AM

This is a senseless crime. That people who commited the crime really needs help.


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