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Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 11:56 AM

Europe is a Christian Cloob!
 
Since the European Court of Human Rights upheld the banning of the hijab in state schools (applicable to all 25 member states), Europeans seem to have done everything they possibly could to make Muslims feel unwelcome, and especially to give the Turks the finger.

Swiss voters, for instance, recently passed a referendum banning the construction of minarets on top of the country's mosques by 57.5%.

Yet to top it all off, Germany and France recently pushed through the nomination of Herman van Rompuy, Belgium's PM, as the EU's first president. Herman van Rompuy is, btw, pro-Christian and has pretty much said that Turkey will never get in the EU.

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Quote:

EU president: Herman Van Rompuy opposes Turkey joining - Telegraph

Herman Van Rompuy, Belgium's Prime Minister, has in the past spoken out against Turkish EU membership because, he warned, it would dilute Europe's Christian heritage.

His position on the issue is so strong that he has won the support of Vlaams Belang, the controversial far-right Flemishh anti-immigrant party in Belgium.


Speaking five years ago, as an opposition politician, Mr Rompuy, a Christian Democrat, argued that Muslim Turkey could not be considered a candidate for EU membership.

"Turkey is not a part of Europe and will never be part of Europe. An expansion of the EU to include Turkey cannot be considered as just another expansion as in the past," he said.

"The universal values which are in force in Europe, and which are fundamental values of Christianity, will loose vigour with the entry of a large Islamic country such as Turkey."

Filip Dewinter, a Vlaams Belang leader, said: "We are entirely in agreement with Van Rompuy over this question and are convinced he will defend this point of view as President of the EU. It is for this reason we openly support him."

Mr Van Rompuy's opposition to Turkey is set to cement British and East European opposition to him during Thursday's summit dinner to appoint a President and Eu foreign minister.
So are Europeans just trying to be worse than America or what?

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Spoiler:
the Smurfs are a Belgian cartoon

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 12:08 PM

Turkey is not fit to be in a civilized society, I don't understand why this is hard to see.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:26 PM

Well, Europe no longer has right to claim moral superiority over Turkey regarding women's rights, for one thing.

Additional Spam:
Now Croatia on the other hand...

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 12:36 PM

It's not like the rest of Europe has a retractable blade built-in to their apple trees.
At least not legally.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM

Hmm yes, the incivility of agriculture

Dullenplain Dec 7, 2009 12:48 PM

Perhaps this is the result of the several decades of being an open liberal bastion of tolerance and acceptance has finally bitten them in the ass, when they think they can go the opposite of what led them to WWII, they've only come back right where they started.

I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe. You'd think that quality alone would help Europeans and Muslim immigrants there to bond, but I guess not.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:56 PM

Uh Europe has never been tolerant of anything other than sexual deviancy (sometimes). They can't even tolerate each other.

Kilroy Dec 7, 2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736282)
I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe. You'd think that quality alone would help Europeans and Muslim immigrants there to bond, but I guess not.

I think you've heard wrong. The most right winged party in Denmark (if we ignore the tiny Nazi party)(this party, the Danish People's Party is compared to Hitler and Nazism by every left winged worth his salt. But then again, what isn't) think that jews and israelis are top notch. Hell, one of the leading figures even recieved the Rauol Wallenberg Medal (I presume that it is something that the Danish Rauol Wallenberg Institue gives)

I was under the impression that it was mostly muslim immigrants who cultivated antisemitism, because it isn't most europeans.

But I might be mistaken?

niki Dec 7, 2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736282)
I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe.

Yep. Among Muslims.

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 736283)
Uh Europe has never been tolerant of anything other than sexual deviancy (sometimes). They can't even tolerate each other.

What?

Dullenplain Dec 7, 2009 01:30 PM

What about the European Left?

From Great Britain through Germany there seems to be a rise of anti-semitic (primarily from anti-Israel) attitudes in their wing, the very same Left who does not see much of a problem with Muslims in Europe, it seems.

We have our fair share of anti-semitic leftists in the States too also, but they're pretty much limited to Academia.

The unmovable stubborn Dec 7, 2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736294)
What about the European Left?

See, whenever you talk about something that starts with Capital Letters For No Reason that's a hint that you are dealing with something more akin to sinister myth than anything to do with reality.

What about Argonezar The Ageless? I heard he also hates the jews

Additional Spam:
no wait nevermind I just realized you're doing the "not sucking Israel's dick? guess you hate the jews" thing

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736294)
From Great Britain through Germany there seems to be a rise of anti-semitic (primarily from anti-Israel) attitudes in their wing, the very same Left who does not see much of a problem with Muslims in Europe, it seems.

We have our fair share of anti-semitic leftists in the States too also, but they're pretty much limited to Academia.

I don't think you understand anti-Israeli sentiments.

FatsDomino Dec 7, 2009 03:27 PM

Can you hate the Jews and love the bullying Israel does? =o

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 04:03 PM

Of course you can, you can love malice and still hate whoever does it, simple.

Kolba Dec 7, 2009 04:26 PM

This dude might pretend otherwise but christianity in europe is vestigial.

The main reason to bar entry to Turkey is that as a society they have about as much trust in evolution as Americans do.

They're barbarians.

The unmovable stubborn Dec 7, 2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 736319)
Can you hate the Jews and love the bullying Israel does? =o

This is essentially the core concept of the modern evangelical movement.

No. Hard Pass. Dec 7, 2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 736327)
This is essentially the core concept of the modern evangelical movement.

Gotta keep the world moving towards Revelations, Pang.

Edit:

Devon. Get out of my head.

niki Dec 7, 2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolba (Post 736324)
This dude might pretend otherwise but christianity in europe is vestigial.

The main reason to bar entry to Turkey is that as a society they have about as much trust in evolution as Americans do.

They're barbarians.

Also, geography.

Lord Styphon Dec 7, 2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by niki (Post 736334)
Also, geography.

Would this be the same geography that says Cyprus is part of Europe?

Similarly, if the geography says that Turkey isn't part of Europe, why then is Istanbul one of next year's European Capitals of Culture?

niki Dec 7, 2009 05:52 PM

Only the southern part of Cyprus is in "Europe". That says a lot about which geography we refer to.

And that's probably the same that makes a good part of current EU's head make Constantinople Istanbul one of the 2010 capitals.

But apparently Greeks have less supporters than Palestinians. :p

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Devo (Post 736330)
They need them to sustain Israel though, the Rapture cannot happen without them Jews.

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Rex Grossman II Dec 8, 2009 02:43 AM

Well it's not as if nobody could see this coming from miles away - The rapidly increasing Islamic population and the fact that most modern terrorism against the westernized world stems from radical Islamists, and though it may be westerners who bring it onto themselves by being so arrogant; hate begets more hate and basically the radical Islamists have impeded their own culture's growth by trying to prove some asinine point by bombing people.

Now they've done that, people are wary of them and have slapped limitations on them as way of keeping them on a leash within their own country.

I mean I lived in an Islamic neighborhood for 3 years, and a good majority of them were really nice guys, even nicer and far more hard working than you know, the native locals. Then some crazy guy from a few streets down the road decides it's a real good idea to bomb London in some demonstration against western civilisation and people start asking me why I'm living around murderers.

Shit sux yo.

Now compare that to the fact that back in London around areas like Tooting, it is undeniable that teenage and young adult Muslims are quite a large factor in the local public nuisance factor and crime rate. Or even in France where the outskirts of Paris are like "The bad areas to be in" given the high number of poor immigrants and crime rates due to poverty. It's really no wonder why xenophobia is so easily fuelled when at the end of the day, only a small amount of it comes from culture clashes, whereas the rest of it comes from wealth and poverty dissonance.

Musharraf Dec 8, 2009 05:24 AM

As long as members of the Christian minority get killed in Turkey on a daily basis, I don't think that we should open our doors.

Bradylama Dec 8, 2009 01:19 PM

bloo bloo bloo but they are killing Christians!

*Poland uses North Korean slave labor*

Musharraf Dec 8, 2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 736478)
*Poland uses North Korean slave labor*

Elaborate!

The unmovable stubborn Dec 8, 2009 02:53 PM

I am not sure that "nobody's totally innocent, so who gives a shit about anything" is a sound basis for international relations

FatsDomino Dec 8, 2009 03:10 PM

We should have never stopped the crusades. Those were awesome.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Dec 8, 2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rex Grossman II (Post 736431)
Now compare that to the fact that back in London around areas like Tooting, it is undeniable that teenage and young adult Muslims are quite a large factor in the local public nuisance factor and crime rate.

And in Brixton all teh crime is perpetrated by blacks, in Pekham it's al white kids stabbing each other and there's probably a part of London where a bunch of Indian hindus are tearing it up. You're either very naive or being willfully ignorant.

Sure, Europeans might be a bit anti-muslim at times but as has already been suggested, we also have a long and glorious history of hating jews, we can't stand each other and we're none too fond of the US. Shit, we were murdering muslims and jews for fun and profit centuries before anyone even discovered America, you guys have a long way to go before you're really good at irrational hatred of other races.

Also, fuck Turkey, it's a shit hole. EU membership for them would benefit only Turkey, they'd be a net receiver of funds (much like Scotland and Wales who are welcome to fuck off and be their own countries any time they want. See ho wlong their economies last without all the handouts from South East England, cunts).

Maris Dec 8, 2009 04:37 PM

I want to add some value to this thread with the folowing picture :

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in conclusion, I have the feeling the two politicans on this picture are politicans which are extrmly ugly, don`t you agree with me!

for instence, here in Russia (CCCP) there are more beautyfull politicans:

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this is Дмитрий Дмитриевич Шостакович​ he is the mayor of my town, i regularley beat him in vodka contest

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this man with glass is Михаи́л Никола́евич Тухаче́вскийhe is the minister of refrigerator issues and is curently in prison for sexual theft

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finaly this is Игорь Фёдорович Стравинский, he`s an idiot but minister of charcoal, last year there was lack of heat because of his failures, so people vote him off hehe

what about your ministers, i`d be interesting :-)

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Dec 8, 2009 05:40 PM

Our last mayor was called Merlin and the last chairman of the town council used to be a glamour model. Being a mayor here basically counts for jack-shit though, there's no power that comes with the job.

No. Hard Pass. Dec 8, 2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 736539)
Our last mayor was called Merlin and the last chairman of the town council used to be a glamour model. Being a mayor here basically counts for jack-shit though, there's no power that comes with the job.

Except for the power to make things...

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/merlin.jpg

...GROW.

FatsDomino Dec 8, 2009 06:43 PM

Ahahahaha Deni ='D

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