Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen
 

I know that a thread had existed for this when the original live action movie came out in 2007, but that thread still exists but its over two years so I decided to make another thread for it if anybody didn't mind.

There are 20 days left, till this movie gets released. I'm always going to be a big transformers fan especially since the 80's cartoon is probably one of the best cartoons ever released. I know Michael Bay is directing and he is really over-inflating his ego with this movie. Anytime you see any of the TV spots for transformers you'll always hear a Michael Bay film.

My friends and I are going to the midnight showing and more than anything else I hope this will be an entertaining movie. I'll admit that I did like the first one, just because I didn't really care too much about the story. I just wanted to see giant motherfucking robots and that's what I got and to be honest as long as I have that in the next film I'm perfectly happy. To those that haven't kept in touch with any of the details in the movie. I'm going to be provide a list of the confirmed robots that are in this film.

Please note, that some of these robots could be changed and not included in the film at all:


Autobots
Optimus Prime
Bumblebee
Ironhide
Ratchet
Skids
Mudflap
Arcee
Jetfire
Sideswipe
Jolt
Wheelie

Decepticons
Megatron
Starscream
Soundwave
Ravage
Grindor
Scorponok
Sideways
Blackout
The Fallen
Demolisher
Scalpel
Alice
Ejector

The Constructicons (Devastator)
-Scavenger
-Hightower
-Long Haul
-Mixmaster
-Rampage
-Scrapper
-Overload

Here are the two main trailer for the film, plus I'm going to add a scene of the movie that was included during the MTV movie awards.

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There are also a bunch of tv spots with some new footage but they can be easily found on youtube. To the GFF community are you going to see this film, and what are your general impressions of it so close to its release.

I assumed that when Bumblebee got fixed up at the end of the last one they'd change his name to Goldbug. Also, Arcee, most annoying Transformer by fucking miles.

All I'm saying is that the third in the series better have some fucking Dinobots and Fortress Maximus in it.

Oh yeah, this is out on the 19th over here for all you Englandland Transfans.

Even though I really enjoyed the first film, I don't know if I care enough about this one to go see it when it comes out in theaters. It's not that it looks worse than the first one or anything, I'm just not as hyped up for it as I was for the first one (I was honestly surprised to read that it's only 20 days away, since I haven't been following the film at all really). I'll definitely see it eventually, but I just may wait out for the blu-ray release this time around.

I'm curious to know why Bumblebee is still speaking with the radio when his voice was apparently fixed at the end of the first movie. Also, in the trailer it looked like Sam dropped a piece of the allspark, but didn't Prime crush the last piece of it after it killed Megatron?

Why are you looking for consistency in a Michael Bay movie of all things?

I'm more excited about how the music score will be :)
I hope it will have some new versions of the songs from the first movie - and not completely new

I wasn't impressed by the score of the first film...maybe that's just me. Yeah, the first movie wasn't a grand piece of cinematic achievement, but GIANT TRANSFORMING ROBOTS. I can put my pretentious feelings about film aside for that, because that's just fucking cool.

I'm really excited for this, it's a shame I wont be stateside for its release night since the theaters there are infinitely better and louder but I think I'll be seeing this opening night. It's just one of those movies. When people are occasionally cheering and making loud noises, it simply helps mask the horrible writing and any scene that isn't bitching robots killing each other! :D

Quite. They've already had to rename a couple of the Constructicons as they used the names for other Transformers last time out. In fact, there's probably more here for internet nerds to bitch about in terms of deviation from canon than in Watchmen.

Then again, Transformers has a hilariously wide range of differing story arcs so my idea of canon, having read every single British Transformers comic they ever made as a kid, is probably quite different from someone who's into the more recent Beastwars nonsense or even the original American comics which were pretty different to the UK ones.

No, he didn't.

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I had a former friend of mine, he was actually a member of his site a while back he made of the most stupidest complaints I've ever heard of anybody concerning the first Transformers movie in 2007. He was upset because they never named the father and son; Sparkplug and Spike. It is safe to say that this person is a fucking idiot.

Its one of the reasons why I hate going to comic book movies, or anything along those lines with some of my friends because they feel they should have the god-given right that all the accuracies of a comic or a cartoon should be crammed into a 2 hour movie. They'll fucking nitpick at it for everything. I just go to a movie to be entertained. If I really cared that much of the mythology I would watch the cartoon or read one of the many comic books available.

Anyway, for those who are interested they released a brand new clip and it involves the obnoxious transformer Wheelie, the clip itself probably doesn't give the film any justice but its a little humorous.

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I was suppose to go to the midnight showing for this movie, but unfortunately some of my friends canceled at the last minute, so I'll be seeing the matinee showing on my birthday with my wife which is a day after the films release date. I would see it during the evening but we're heading out to the comedy club for my birthday with a few of our friends.

Just got back from the movie. Loved it, actually had a somewhat better plot than the last one, although the various bots aren't given enough development time. Ah well. Still plenty of ass whuppin' and more effective comedy bits. Sure, it's all fluff, but it's good fluff.

You serious? It was a fucking train-wreck from start to finish.

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fuck Michael Bay

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hell yeah arcee got da fat back, i'd allspark that shit

Fuck, man. That was fucking HIGH SCHOOL for me. At least it had a proper ending and did some interesting stuff with the story.

Don't get me wrong, I grew up on the original shit, too, but.

Saw this earlier tonight. It was pretty good, but also somewhat disappointing. They left so much unexplained. Seemed like the autobots got axed in development. One thing that annoyed me was that the obnoxious autobots (Skids and Mudflap, who's faces remind me of Gremlins) got the most screen time of the lot. Bots like Sideswipe, Jolt, Arcee (is she a 3 in 1 deal?) were given no intros and had little to no lines (unfortunate, because Sideswipe was really cool). The returning bots had very little to say as well.

I guess this is what happens when a sequel is rushed. All flash, no real substance. Even though my post comes off as more negative, I'll still be trying to grab an IMAX viewing this weekend as I really did enjoy the flash, and I'm curious to see what the additional footage is.

I saw this the other day and I enjoyed it, well sort of, but you really have to shut down anything vaguely related to your brain otherwise the sheer amount of dumb and stupid on screen will spoil it. You really can't think about the plot (insert 'what plot?' jokes here) at all, or the various continuity bits and pieces, because there's holes all over the place. Huge, epic, dumb-arse holes everywhere.

But hey, it has big robots beating the shit out of each other, big explosions, and what can only really be described as a shit-ton of military porn (I hate to think of the mess Bay made of the editing suite). Sadly it also features far too much childish humour, though I use that word incredibly loosely, and attempts at comic relief, and focuses on entirely the wrong characters 99% of the time (especially those fucking twin autobots). Basically the worst bits of the first film, which were kept to a minimum there, have been turned into a 150 minute feature. Also, didn’t we establish quite firmly in the last film that firing guns at the Transformers did pretty much chuff all? No, must stop, otherwise we could be here a while.

At the end of the day this is a mess, a gigantic fucking screwed-up confused mess of nonsense and toilet humour. This is proof, were it ever needed, that allowing Michael Bay to run amuck unchecked is a terrible, terrible idea. I did have fun with the spectacle of it all, but I must confess the more I think about the film subsequently the more I realise how bad it actually was, to the extent that I feel a little bad about helping this, in some small way, become the box-office success it will inevitably be.

God damn it Bay, cars and things going boom, these are your forte, how did you fuck this up so much?

That's because Michael Bay thinks the US military is the coolest goddamn institution on the planet, and Transformers 2 in no subtle way implies that world peace would be just around the corner if the boys in green just had unlimited access to all the poor foreign mud countries. OORAH SEMPER FI

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Michael Bay is shit, and if you watched this movie you're a part of the problem.

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President Obama willing to negotiate with Decepticons. Cybertron just smashed into the Freedom Tower!

I'm pretty sure this had been stated two years ago when the first Transformers movie came out, but...it's giant robots fighting each other and wrecking the shit out of everything.

If you want something deep and something you can discuss for HOURS on end with your other pretentious butt-fucking buddies on how the world is YOUR OYSTER, then I suggest you go watch a movie that...you know...claims to actually be deep and philosophical.

I saw it yesterday, so I guess I'm part of the 'problem' as to why movies nowadays aren't ALL oscar worthy. I'd just like to know at what point going to the movies had to be a spiritual, mind bending experience just to get entertainment out of it. It's giant robots smashing the shit out of things with several comic relief characters thrown in there. Why would you even be looking for a plot inside of this movie? You're an idiot for going into it expecting a plot.

Yes, I did enjoy the movie. Maybe it's because I don't have the class and dignity self-respect that people who blast this movie and think it's total shit do, but I was entertained.

The problem isn't that people crave a "spiritual, mind bending experience" at the movies, the problem is that people don't want to be asked to lower their standards just to enjoy a summer blockbuster.

The first transformers could be forgiven because it was inoffensive and dumb, but the new transformers is overtly racist, sexist, jingoistic, dumb, and outs President Obama for being a Decepticon sympathizer.

It is one of the worst films ever, and you're a dumbass for liking it.

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Just wanted to throw this out there, but the amount of negative flack this film is getting from you all has me really interested in seeing it. =o

Don't pay money.

Torrent dat bitch.

Well, and see there in lies the problem with that statement above. When was the last time any summer blockbuster liked by anyone that has 'high standards'? As for having low standards when it comes to a movie...since when did people have to have HIGH STANDARDS about a movie just to feel good about themselves? As I've stated in movie threads before, I typically enjoy every movie I see, whether it's Tombstone to, well, Transformers 2. The only two movies that I've downright coudln't watch through to the end was Napoleon Dynamite and Disaster Movie.

As for Brady's comments, how am I a dumbass for liking it? I didn't see how this movie could be racist at ALL until people had to 'point it out' I suppose. But then again, I'm one of those EVIL EVIL people that would rather shrug off a black man eating chicken in a movie, rather than immediately crying out THAT'S RACIST! every time I see it.

Remember Brady, racism still lives on, because you will still be offended by it...even though you're white. I think. Are you a darky?

Somehow it's become fashionable to use "plot" to mean "talky, convoluted expositions, explanations, and backstory," but plotting is about setting up a compelling sequence of events. And yes, even the cheesiest, meatheaded action movie needs a plot, or there's no pacing, no tension, no payoff, and most importantly no continuity.

A truly plotless action movie would be like one of those stunt highlight compilations on youtube.

What in the sam hell are you even talking about? The only thing I heard about Obama is that he was in a bunker in the middle of the country.

And even so...who the hell cares? Obama could have been a outed as a man that's actually a decepticon in desguise and I woudln't have given too shits. High standards or not, but if you start taking a movie about giant robots THIS SERIOUSLY then I feel sorry for you.

To be honest I didn't even notice em. I think there was a line in there about em, but I think I missed it.

Even so, god forbid a movie based on toys woudln't have the same humor you would see in a Ren and Stimpy cartoon. Seriously Brady, was your inner child raped, beaten and then had its throat slit when you hit adult-hood? You take it as potty humor, or any humor that isn't UPRIGHT AND POLITICALLY CORRECT as the devil sometimes.

You are the dumbest motherfucker alive.

You can have a summer blockbuster that's not a rotting, festering pile of dog shit. Going in expecting the worst, and then getting the worst, doesn't mean it was "fine". It has nothing to do with mysterious standards. There is nothing about a status quo or whatnot either.

It has to do with subjecting yourself to bullshit and then thinking "well at least I wasn't raped by an 80 year old man with PVC pipe so it's all good" is an ok train of thought.

Haha, yeah, because I'm white that means that I should be okay with giant robots that stereotype blacks as dumb ghetto niggers.

You know what the last movie I watched and enjoyed was? Dragonball. It wasn't good particularly, but it had a plot and some good moments that were worth the price of admission.

It is not hard to make a decent movie. It's also fairly simple to make a bad movie that isn't sexist, racist, etc.,

Again, when was the last time there was a summer blockbuster that people didn't go "OH shit not this tired crap again"? I didn't go in expecting the worst. I went in saying "Hey, this is a movie about giant robots blowing shit up, and I'm sure the plot, as thin as it will be, will revolve around something fucking shit up"

And hey, I got what I was expecting. I just don't understand why people are taking a Michael Bay film so seriously. This isn't the worst thing that has come out this summer, and honest to god...I think G.I. Joe is going to be fucking horrible.

I could understand this if you were going in to see this movie thinking it was going to be great, and fantastic, and coming out of it saying "Holy shit my ass hurts". But other than that...why subjugate yourself to that sort of abuse if you know full well what will happen when you see a movie you already know you'll hate?

I just don't see how I'm a dumbass because I paid six dollars to see a movie about giant robots blowing shit up, instead of paying six dollars to see a jack black movie, or will 'I apparently am a god' ferrell movie.

There is no point in identifying the president as Obama unless Bay wanted to make a statement about him, which he did by implying that Obama would be willing to negotiate with the Decepticons (terrorists).


The movie has giant robots that constantly talk about pussy and bitches. What part of that is supposed to appeal to my inner child? I was fairly misogynistic back in High School, but that doesn't mean I want something to appeal to a me that was dumb as shit.

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And I agree with you one hundred percent on that. Even though I'm sure I was STILL called a dumbass for liking Dragonball.

Thing is, I don't openly look for anything that is sexist or racist. I mean look at the movie Friday. Stereotypes and racism abound in that movie, but does it make it alright because it starred a black man? Even then I didn't even look at the movie as racist, and I still don't to this day.

Star Trek was an excellent movie, I'll agree. But again, I'm still a dumbass for liking that movie by everyone who hated that Star Trek movie. So can we all agree that we all are dumbasses and move on?

I didn't like that Star Trek movie at all, but apparently you're missing the combined point.

There's a line crossed somewhere about four miles back, where taste ceases to be an issue, and ignorance becomes the new cool.

Friday was a film directed by African American director F. Gary Gray about black men starring black people and targeted at black people.

Transformers 2 is a film directed by white director Michael Bay about robots starring robots and targeted at teenagers.

If you can't see the difference then you truly are retarded.

Friday was about surviving hood life and poking fun at the kind of characters that inhabit the community. It wasn't a fucking minstrel show. You are a dumbass.

I can see the difference easily. All you're saying is that racism is perfectly fine in any media as long as the director, the stars of the movie, and the target audience belong to the same race that the racism in said movie targets.

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I didn't know that stereotyping 'hood life' and the people that live in a community blatantly wasn't racism. Though if it would have been directed by a white man DOT DOT DOT

Friday celebrated blacks and didn't use black culture as a comedic foil to be laughed at and ridiculed.

Yeah, that's precisely what I'm saying.

On an somewhat related note, who wants to join me in writing angry letters to Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, and Spike Lee for being racist towards black people?

And I don't see black culture as people just walking around day after day wearing chains down to their knees and speaking in ebonics all day long.

This will probably earn me a 'diss' in terms of those little thumbs up in the corner, but I saw the twins as stereotypical white boys trying too damn hard to ACT black instead of just some poor gutter trash ghetto folk.

I just can't see how I'm a dumbass because I didn't go into this movie and systematically picking out everything that was politically incorrect about it. I don't find enjoyment in doing that...so I'm a dumbass.

Yeah because when I see white boys pretending to be black the first thing I hear them jiving about is how they don't read very much.

See, I'd actually pay money to see a movie that was nothing more than an extended minstrel show. I'd also hope the creators had a point, and that it also wasn't Bamboozled.




WHERE'S MY BLACKFACE PORGY & BESS, DAMMIT.

Bamboozled was a good movie. It's impossible for anybody to do a minstrel show with a point because Bamboozled already did it.

No it's not, because that was black men in blackface. That's what I'm saying.

White man in blackface will never happen, let the dream die, brother.

I saw it for $7. It... was worth $7, I guess.

I mean, it was better than the first, but that's not saying a whole lot. I could at least sort of tell which scrap heap was attacking which one when they went into slow-mo mode.

I kinda hope they don't make a third one, but I know that's asking too much. This thing's probably going to make a bajillion dollars. Sigh.

I'm guessing it would be a bad time to admit liking the movie for what it was worth. I honestly didn't care about anything but the robot battles.

I wasn't necessarily fond of most of the humor, and I couldn't give a good god damn about the Autobot twins. I wanted to see it for the robot action so I guess I'm guilty of putting money into this convoluted mess as much as the next person.

You know with movies like this, complaints are always going to come from any possible direction, but I only cared about the robot fighting and at least I got a good 40 minutes of it. I'll admit I got a few good laughs out of the parents, and the interaction between sam and bumblebee when he was at college.

The fight with Optimus Prime and the three Decepticons was my favorite battle scene in the movie. I liked some of the Megatron & Starscream interaction as well.

So to sum it up:

Good robot fighting - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - A little bit of humor - Pointless - Pointless - Excellent Robot Fighting - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - Pointless - Completely over the top all over the place robot fighting - Pointless - Pointless.

So yeah, fuck Michael Bay. A man of action, but literally nothing else.

Well now that you've paid 7 bux of course they're going to make a third one.

On the bright side, though, Michael Bay isn't going to do it! He's tired of all the mean movie critics taking massive shits on his successful movies so he doesn't want to do explosions anymore.

The robot battles were shit.

The only thing you cared about is literally terrible.

Michael Bay is a horrible action director. Hot Fuzz was a better film than Bad Boyz could have ever hoped to be.

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I'm holding you to this. And if he ends up making the third one...! ...You'll be hearing my complaining about how it was still a shit movie, and how I can't believe I was duped into paying to see the same thing 3 times.

Ahahaha

Fool me once? Shame on you.
Fool me twice? Shame on me.
Fool me thrice? Cum in me.

I did go see it, and I have to ask, was it deliberately over the top? Because some of the stuff was ridiculously funny along the lines of Frankenstein Conquers the World. I mean, there were a lot of jokes in the movie that fell flat for me. The funniest parts were the parts where it looked like they were aiming for epic. The scene changes seemed really abrupt though. Like the transition from racing across the empty desert to middle of civilization.

The robot fighting scenes really were boring though, what with all the clanking together with no discernible damage until FATALITY and the criticisms regarding racial stereotyping really were valid. However, I think it was worth the $9 just to have participated in something that engendered such a strong reaction!

The laughter you experienced was a result of your cognitive dissonance, fyi.

Fuck Mudflap and Skids. This movie failed in making the Decepticons a threat. Shit, all Devastator did was fucking suck up sand and fail to kill a retarded Autobot.

This movie was a goddamned jumble. "I am the Fallen! Now watch me disappear from the plot for a hour while Sam fucks around in Egypt."

Saw it, thought it was worse than the first one. Only thing that improved are the fights. I could actually SEE what was going on with the full autobody shots instead of cutting incredibly close to an elbow and passing it off as a fight.
And what the fuck about the other autobots, all I ever heard was " OPTIMUS! BUMBLEBEE! ironhide >_>.
I am expecting a new fox cartoon with a more clothed megan fox and a more humpy decepticon mascot. You know it's coming.

Hi I'm a metallic life-form from another planet with nothing resembling what you'd call genitals and zero perspective whatsoever regarding human genders and standards of beauty. I've come to hump your hawt mechanix

You forgot! They learned our language by studying the INTERNET!

They must of watched our porn. It was only a matter of time before they became sick fucks like the rest of us~

I, STARSCREAM, LEADER OF THE DECEPTICONS HAVE COME FOR YOUR ANIME!

GIVE ME YOUR LOLICON OR BE DESTROOOOOOOYED!

I keep hearing that people are getting offended by the way those two funny robots acted.
I think that's fucking hilarious. Honestly people, their robots, not a race.

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The movie was retarded fun. Expecting anything with substance from Michael Bay is just asking for disappointment. In fact, if you knew this, why the fuck would you spend 8 or 16 bucks to see it in theaters? Anyone with half a brain cell could tell this movie would be mindless.

I can see how the twins would attract controversy, but honestly, I wasn't offended. There are so many people, of varying backgrounds, who look and behave like the twins that I couldn't get mad. On the flip side, the stereotype is that only black people behave and look this way. I'm walking a thin line in saying this, but times have changed. Assuming you follow through with this stereotype, you're admitting that you only view black people as ignorant and infatuated with the hip-hop culture. I thought it was funny that most black people I've spoken to didn't see it the way so many white folks are, and thought the characters in question were at the very least somewhat amusing.

So quick to be offended for other people when actually, they should be offended by you.

Hmm, a white man who isn't offended by racist caricature of a black you say?

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Observe the wide-bridged nose, a feature familiar when observing most caucasians.

Ok I'm just gonna drop the pretense, the thing has big goddamn nigga lips for Christ's sake. You are a retard.

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I think there comes a time when you have to ask yourself is the mission really worth it.

TRANSFORMERS MICHAEL BAY AUUHGH NIGGERS

Really though, need a break much?

but Devastator got ballz

If the TFWiki was fucking working, I'd have shown you official Transformers lolicon fiction.

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Michael Bay.....really? Zoomed in Sector 7 agent dude's ass crack thong shot? really? hood rat gangsta wanna be autobots from where on Cybertron? South Memphis? REALLY? Dogs humping.....shown twice? REALLY!?

I haven't seen a lot of Bay movies and didn't have an issue with his stuff until this. WHAT THE FUCK does Devastator's balls have to do with anything?

The only thing out of all the retarded shit that was funny to me was Spike's mom all high on brownies tackling the frisby dude and then telling Sparkplug "Hi professor, I'll do ANYTHING to get an A"

Other than all the extremely retarded shit as in half the film...this movie was pretty much a live action episode of the 80's cartoon. It's not the work of say, Stanley Kubrick but it's not really supposed to be.


EDIT: Oh and FUCK MICHAEL BAY for killing Ravage the way he did. Ravage is and always be my homie. Still have the G1 cassette on my dresser in the bedroom. FUCK YOU MICHAEL BAY! Ravage is not a fucking kabob!

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Alright, it's a tv show but still.

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The 70's don't count, bro.

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Hey now, let's not forget all the white tenors who play Otello.


Granted, then it's expected. And they just get painted tan. Not black.



WHY CAN EUROPEANS GET AWAY WITH THIS SHIT, BUT AMERICANS CANNOT?

Because we never changed any of the laws about blacks being property.

Or is it because y'all have DIFFERENT issues with raceJEWS than America does?

The funny thing is, I bet the people to start the complaints were white just looking for something to stir up some controversy. Stereotypes are in alot of movies and there no complaints until it happens to be the potential biggest movie of the summer. Tyler Perry's movies portray whites in a way that I don't agree with but you don't see me throwing a fit. Did people have a fit when Robert Downey Jr. played Kirk Lazerus in Tropic Thunder? He played on almost every African American stereotype and for the most part everyone laughed or admired it.

Of course that doesn't change that Michael Bay shouldn't be allowed to touch something as sacred as Transformers, but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on the people screaming how racist he seems to be. He's not the first to do this.

I think you missed the joke.

There's a lot more things about Tyler Perry's films that are offensive beyond how you think it portrays white people (which even though I haven't seen a Madea movie since High School I'm pretty sure is accurate).

Oh hey, so I actually saw this last night and fuck you guys, I really enjoyed it. It's a kids action film for fucks sakes so I can't really see why anyone would go into with expectations beyond big robots and explosions but I really didn't see any of the criticisms that have been raised here.

The story is a passable one and easy to follow. There's not a huge amount of depth to it but then there ain't a huge amount of depth to the Goonies or the Princess Bride either but that doesn't stop them being great films. The humour is slightly childish but what do you expect in a film aimed at teenagers? It's still pretty funny and you're so up your own arse you can't laugh at dogs shagging in a kids film then you should stick to watching Polanski films frankly.

The fights are great, the special effects are believeable enough and big explosions are always welcome in any film. I didn't say anything to my girlfriend about the perceived racism in the film before we watched it and when I mentioned it afterwards, she couldn't tell which ones I was talking about. It's a ridiculous criticism frankly. The only problems I had with the film were them not using Soundwave's voice from the cartoons and the whole Team America bit at the end but that was funny more than anything. I also thought it was amusing how at the beginning they showed how tough NEST are by zooming in on the dude's SAS badge and then conveniently got him killed in the first fight.

It's a dumb action film but I thought it was a very good, dumb action film and if you went into it expecting anything else then you're pretty much an idiot and should maybe read a bit about films before you go and see them to save yourself both the entry film and the beard-stroking anguish.