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Helloween May 31, 2009 10:59 AM

E3 Expectations and Reactions Thread
 
Like, for reals, where's the E3 thread?

Anyways, use this thread to post your expectations and predictions for E3 announcements and press releases, and feel free to discuss/react to said press releases here too.

My biggest concern this year is going to be Nintendo's conference. Last year was unforgivable, but right now i think they have a chance to redeem themselves. Depending on what happens here, we could see the end of Nintendo as a serious gaming company, and it's official re-branding as a casual games producer.

That said, i know we have Zelda Spirit Tracks to look forwards to, as well as rumors of a new Mario game for the Wii. Iwata also said last year that development teams were hard at work on "Zelda and Mario titles for the Wii". I wonder if this means we'll see Spirit Tracks released alongside screen shots and demos of a Wii Zelda game, but we all know we're going to have to wait until 2011 before it's actually released.

Living Legend May 31, 2009 11:12 AM

Obviously, the most anticipated game at E3 this..and pretty much every year, is the release date for a Radical Bikers sequel. It's just so obvious that the people are begging for it, but no one wants to give the fans what they want!

Actually, in all seriousness.....

We need more Buck Bumble

Manny Biggz May 31, 2009 11:49 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing who's gonna crash and burn this year. Chances are, it'll be Nintendo.

I'm also hoping to see something about Half Life 2 Episode 3 and that Warhammer 40000 Space Marine game. I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Dark Nation May 31, 2009 12:29 PM

I'm anxious to see what mystery game Capcom keeps giving cryptic clues about. There are TWO games that will be revealed at E3 that are not known yet. One will be a playable Demo, and the other will just be 'Announced'.

Specifically they mentioned the following:
  • It’s something fans have been waiting for.
  • It’s from a classic Capcom IP.
  • It’s not a remake.
  • It’s not Devil May Cry 5 either.
  • It is an action game.
  • Capcom Japan is developing the title.

That narrows down the list a bit, the most popular title suggested is a new Monster Hunter game that is not Tri or Freedom United (Wii and PSP respectively),
and following that Power Stone 3... one more (realistically unlikely) canidate is a Rockman Dash / Megaman Legends sequel.

Sources:
Kotaku - Capcom's E3 Lineup Rife With Mystery - Capcom
Capcom_Unity (Capcom_Unity) on Twitter
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Final Fantasy Phoneteen May 31, 2009 12:32 PM

Onimusha is being tossed around as the most likely candidate. I also agree with that assessment.

Krelian May 31, 2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz (Post 705469)
I'm looking forward to seeing who's gonna crash and burn this year. Chances are, it'll be Nintendo.

It was Nintendo last year AND the year before :mad: Here's hoping they pull something AMAZING out of the ether this time.

Dark Nation May 31, 2009 12:48 PM

Well, aside from a new online Wii Fit game that was announced, they did say they're working on a new Mario title... and there's always a chance they'll debut Pikmin 3.

SuperSonic May 31, 2009 12:57 PM

I'm hoping to see Starfox for the Wii this year, and not a re-release of Starfox Assault with WiiMote gameplay. Seriously Nintendo, that's just being lazy. I was considering getting the first Metroid Prime with the Wii controls but since they're selling it with 2 and 3 as a trilogy pack for 50 bucks, no thanks. It may sound like a deal, but why should I have to buy Prime 3 again?

I'm expecting Microsoft to steal the show again this year. Nintendo has just sucked for the last two years. All they do is talk about how they proved the disbelievers wrong with Wii and showed how everybody is getting into it with past titles, kids and adults laughing, and grandparents smiling with their false teeth flying out as they bowl with the WiiMote in Wii Sports. We don't want to see that, we're hoping to see a show of trailers for the upcoming games and possibly a few demonstrations. Please, no more Wii Music.

Oh lord, if they get that soccer mom back again this year...

Paco May 31, 2009 01:05 PM

I'm hoping to see some new gameplay footage and maybe a playable demo of BrĂ¼tal Legend. I'm also waiting to see how Sony tries to justify their decision to cut out UMD media from their new PSPgo altogether and use a Memory Stick Micro instead of getting in line with the rest of the world and use media that's consistent with the century we're living in.

Helloween May 31, 2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 705479)
Onimusha is being tossed around as the most likely candidate. I also agree with that assessment.

I will agree with that as well, but it seems to me that Viewtiful Joe fits those criteria.

Lukage May 31, 2009 06:15 PM

I'm expecting Nintendo to actually have the best news this year. And no, "Disaster: Day of Crisis" doesn't count.

The best news should be from 3rd party developers. Yes, I'm looking at you, Atlus, Level-5, and Capcom.

Shenlon May 31, 2009 11:13 PM

I'm not really anticipating any software from nintendo but I am waiting to see how they make fun of themselves. I want them to shake their sticks to hard and so fast that their eyes roll back and give out to public orgasms.

As for ps3 and 360, nothing too exciting at the moment. Maybe Bayonetta cause I'm a fan of action+girls+demonic clothing. and trico too

Dagobert May 31, 2009 11:20 PM

Is Kojima the only one left to officially announce anything? Everything else has already been announced just days before E3 this year which is weird why they wouldn't wait till their E3 press conferences.

UltimaIchijouji May 31, 2009 11:32 PM

I know its impossible, but can I still wish for Zone of the Enders 3? Can I, Kojima?

Single Elbow May 31, 2009 11:44 PM

Let's see how Modern Warfare 2 shapes out. The trailer looks insanely promising. Needs more details on the game.

Also I wanna see how Darksiders: Wrath of War turns out. Looks interesting to boot at the very least.

value tart May 31, 2009 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krel (Post 705480)
It was Nintendo last year AND the year before :mad: Here's hoping they pull something AMAZING out of the ether this time.

It won't happen.

Reggie could walk outside and give that annoying snowboard bitch from last year's conference a quick facial, take a dump on the stage and then eat it while fingering an audience member's asshole with a hot glue gun, and the Wii will still sell 9,000 million units and Wii Sports 2: This Time With Frisbees will make more money than the GDP of Europe.

The unmovable stubborn Jun 1, 2009 12:03 AM

It's almost as though E3 is a pointless, expensive spectacle that 99% of potential customers pay no attention to!

Almost!

value tart Jun 1, 2009 12:49 AM

But, but!

They tried E3 without the expensive spectacle part, and suddenly 100% of customers didn't care!

This way, game nerds can be hypocritical all over again when they deride people for being all "celebrity obsessed". "Why do you care what Brad and Angelina do? They're so unimportant and overrated. Oh, I just remembered, I need to check CliffyB's Twitter and Major Nelson's Squawkle accounts!"

Infernal Monkey Jun 1, 2009 01:41 AM

- Blast Corps 2: Time To Get Fantastico for 360. Limited edition includes lifesize model of Thunderfist.
- F-Zero XXL for Wii, developed by Monster Games. Story mode has 297% more old man getting angry over bets of two million space credits at the bar. Hard butt rock version of Captain Falcon's theme to be played everywhere.
- Sony finally announces Lemmings 2 for PSP/PS3/PS2/Betamax. Includes depressed Lemming.
- D3 brings back the Simple 2000 series. I don't fucking care what platform, they bring it back.
- Earthworm Jim 4 revealed, 2D platformer. Launches next week alongside the new cartoon series.

These are all very reasonable expectations.

value tart Jun 1, 2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 705651)
- Blast Corps 2: Time To Get Fantastico for 360. Limited edition includes lifesize model of Thunderfist.

DON'T JOKE ABOUT SUCH THINGS

YOU COLDHEARTED BASTARD

Infernal Monkey Jun 1, 2009 02:10 AM

Oh, this is insider knowledge! I'm the janitor of Rare's janitor. Hang on, gotta post it on Twitter.

Jessykins Jun 1, 2009 02:12 AM

Man, Infernal's expectations are pretty awesome.

Either way, I guess I am waiting to see, uh... some more Prototype footage? Maybe some Mass Effect 2 information.

Dagobert Jun 1, 2009 02:35 AM

I hope Nintendo brings Ravi Drums again or shit even Sony and Microsoft could benefit from him.

NovaX Jun 1, 2009 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 705555)
I'm expecting Nintendo to actually have the best news this year. And no, "Disaster: Day of Crisis" doesn't count.

Disaster was GOTY 2008. I hope they announce a North American release otherwise we'll never see a sequel.

Animechanic Jun 1, 2009 03:06 AM

Yay! Motorstorm Pacific Rift DLC announced. Screw the rest of you, I am happy about this.

nanstey Jun 1, 2009 05:54 AM

I'm just looking forward to the new metal gear game. the countdown's down to less than twelve hours - too bad I have to be at work when it ends...

Speaking of which, the sun's come out on that page - wild... And instead of all the cryptic numbers, letters and faces, there's the number 8 fading in and out... Or maybe theas E3 mashed together - who knows...

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 1, 2009 10:06 AM

Looks like Microsoft aren't even going to wait for E3 proper to make their big announcements.

E3 has become a bit of a joke now though as Pang suggested. Nintendo will doubtless tell us all about Wii Dog Trainer 7 and Yet Another Mario Game Consisting Primarily Of Minigames 24, Sony will try to persuade everyone that the PSP is a viable platform even though nobody ever pays for any software on it and Microsoft will announce a new Halo game or that FF XIV will be on Xbox. And the new Kojima game will be another Metal Gear and nobody will really care, although I'll at least laugh if it's on 360.

FatsDomino Jun 1, 2009 12:18 PM

Microsoft E3 Press Conference Live Stream/Blog: News from 1UP.com

and uh i guess Microsoft Press Conference - E3 09 Live Video Game Demos at GameSpot

for streams of microsoft conference


let's enjoy watching some nifty pie charts

Prime Blue Jun 1, 2009 12:22 PM

Joining in, though I somehow expect a complete disaster with no big surprises from all three parties this year.

Aardark Jun 1, 2009 12:54 PM

http://i42.tinypic.com/11awg85.gif

Microsoft wins again.

Inhert Jun 1, 2009 01:17 PM

new splinter cell looks fine!! it's the first time I get interested in the series.

surasshu Jun 1, 2009 01:18 PM

Woah Crackdown 2. Didn't they claim they definitely won't be making that? Bastards. Oh well I like.

Too bad nothing else is worth mentioning!

EDIT: Okay, the guy failing speech 101 in the presence of the Great Kojima was also quite entertaining.

Inhert Jun 1, 2009 02:10 PM

project natal showing of a full body version of ricochet game:

Tsunoda: "This is a full-body experience, not something you can just do on the couch by waggling your hand!"

hehehe love backslash.

Aardark Jun 1, 2009 02:17 PM

Their little paint project was powerfully retarded, but to be honest I think ''Project Natal'' seems kinda cool. I've always liked this kind of futuristic shit. Nothing fantastic will probably come out of it on the Xbox 360, but by the time the next generation of consoles is out, it could be great.

surasshu Jun 1, 2009 02:22 PM

The Lionhead thing was so deliciously fake that it made me crack up. Hey guys look we solved Megahal! Too bad all the voices were pre-recorded which means there was no way that conversation wasn't entirely staged. :3:

I guess their preoccupation with a Pedophile Training Ground emulator explains why all their games are so half-assed despite spending about 5 times as long on one as the average developer. :333:

Inhert Jun 1, 2009 02:27 PM

I liked the all navigating with voice and hands movement, but I'm not sure how reliable it is. I'm impress by the technology behind the 3D movement detection, if it work like they said.

But really that boy thing was kind of creepy...

value tart Jun 1, 2009 02:45 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/09...0/GIF/kudo.gif

Krelian Jun 1, 2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo0 (Post 705629)
It won't happen.

Reggie could walk outside and give that annoying snowboard bitch from last year's conference a quick facial, take a dump on the stage and then eat it while fingering an audience member's asshole with a hot glue gun, and the Wii will still sell 9,000 million units and Wii Sports 2: This Time With Frisbees will make more money than the GDP of Europe.

The aristocrats!

Microsoft's conference was alright. The games they showed off/announced look pretty rad, but I couldn't give less of a shit about the wagglecam.

http://j.photos.cx/1243884858297-8e6.png

THE FUTURE

Living Legend Jun 1, 2009 03:19 PM

When you guys were watching that 'family' do the motion controls, did anyone else find it annoying more than a 'wow' experience?

Do you KNOW how annoying it'd be, if you had to drive with your hands in the air, supported by nothing? Do you know how annoying it'd be you had to do the tire changes and wait every few laps?

Screw that crap

Krelian Jun 1, 2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Living Legend (Post 705833)
Do you KNOW how annoying it'd be, if you had to drive with your hands in the air, supported by nothing? Do you know how annoying it'd be you had to do the tire changes and wait every few laps?

"I'll take the steering wheel. You can do the oil change!"

value tart Jun 1, 2009 03:25 PM

So they had time to tell us about Facebook and Twitter, but not that they're bringing a full 360 game on demand download service later this year that won't even require MSP?

Fuck you, whoever slated that conference. :mad:

Lukage Jun 1, 2009 03:44 PM

Oh goodie. Another Left 4 Dead.

Episodic gaming my ass, Valve. Where's Episode 3? I better see it in action this week. Yes, Left 4 Dead was a hit and I'll get this, but COME ON! I better not be waiting on it just for the next game, "Portal: Cake is Delicious."

FatsDomino Jun 1, 2009 04:00 PM

EX BAWKS EX BAWKS EX BAWKS


METAL GEEEAAAAALLLL?


PETER WANTS YOU TO PLAY HIS LITTLE BOY FANTASY SIMULATOR

Additional Spam:
<nuttyturnip> Our TVs are going to look extra ghetto with a Wii sensor bar stacked on top of the natal

Dark Nation Jun 1, 2009 05:05 PM

They confirmed Crackdown 2, I'm content.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jun 1, 2009 05:12 PM

Huh? They've basically said as much for the last year. "When we're done APB."

I guess it's officially official now though, although I don't think anyone really didn't think it was coming.

S_K Jun 1, 2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 705812)
I think ''Project Natal'' seems kinda cool. I've always liked this kind of futuristic shit. Nothing fantastic will probably come out of it on the Xbox 360, but by the time the next generation of consoles is out, it could be great.

It's impressive technology, but gaming needs to think long and hard about the purpose of it. It's going to the level of alternative worlds rather then a videogame, obsessives are bad enough already with games like world of warcraft, so what state of mind will this leave people in who would rather live a fictional life then their real one?

All I know is the gamers will get the blame and not the publishers, the publishers will just shrug it off. If they encourage people until they become a generation of alternative world gamer hermits, their excuse will just be that we the consumers have no self control.

Also on that Milo Tech Demo what kind of idiot says "true technology science fiction has not even written about"? Science fiction is one of the biggest influences of ALL technology!

[/rant]


sorry I couldn't resist a copypasta of a mini rant I just had on this topic elsewhere

Lukage Jun 1, 2009 05:38 PM

EA, other than showing us Revan in The Old Republic, I was let down.

Oh wait, you're EA. Great job based on my expectations!

Living Legend Jun 1, 2009 05:38 PM

The only problem I have with watching E3 (This is actually my first viewing of it), is that with each new person that comes out and talks about the upcoming game reminds me of the god damn movie Good Burger when Kenan is in Mondo Burger.

They take it FAR to seriously and it's almost laughable

YouTube Video

...hmm, 4:17- onward, i can't tell the difference between E3 and Mondo Burger

surasshu Jun 1, 2009 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills (Post 705861)
Huh? They've basically said as much for the last year. "When we're done APB."

I guess it's officially official now though, although I don't think anyone really didn't think it was coming.

Ah really? I remember reading something (admittedly a while ago) that basically went along the lines of "We're definitely definitely not doing Crackdown 2 so stop talking about it you guys." No complaints either way. :3:

Anyway, GET DOWN
YouTube Video

Dark Nation Jun 1, 2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills (Post 705861)
Huh? They've basically said as much for the last year. "When we're done APB."

I guess it's officially official now though, although I don't think anyone really didn't think it was coming.

There's been too many times when a game has been slated to appear and then at the last minute gets canceled. At least now because its OFFICIAL, if something happens I can be rightfully annoyed.

Inhert Jun 1, 2009 08:43 PM

omg ubisoft conference is boring, it almost make the nintendo press conference of last year look good...

Krelian Jun 1, 2009 09:05 PM

Things continue to leak out. Metal Gear Solid: Rising is coming to the PS3 and PC. The PSP title is called Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker.

...And the Lords of Shadow game that Kojima's working on? It's a new Castlevania.

wvlfpvp Jun 1, 2009 10:02 PM

Kojima's doing a Castlevania game?


This might end up surpassing the N64 Castlevanias as the best 3d ones in the series.

Miles Jun 1, 2009 10:13 PM

Looking forward to Nintendo pulling sells numbers out of its ass and announcing a direct port of a 10 year old game tomorrow.

wvlfpvp Jun 1, 2009 11:19 PM

So they're going to do what Namco did with Klonoa?

I mean, is it OK for one company to do it with a(n admittedly rare) game, while Nintendo does the same?

The unmovable stubborn Jun 1, 2009 11:31 PM

Looking backward to Miles having absolutely zero self-awareness

Miles Jun 2, 2009 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 705981)
So they're going to do what Namco did with Klonoa?

I mean, is it OK for one company to do it with a(n admittedly rare) game, while Nintendo does the same?

Actually, there's a difference between remaking a game and porting a game. Remaking is rebuilding the game from scratch based off the original's ideas which is what was done with Klonoa. Porting a game is taking an old game and modifying it so it runs on another console while maybe adding a little something extra here and there. You know, kinda like Pikmin and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat?

Besides Punch-Out (which is sort of a remake), how many other titles has Nintendo released? I recall most of them being ports of the the same old GCN games we already enjoyed. So far all we know about is them porting all the Metroid GCN games over into a collection, which isn't a bad deal, but I am hoping they don't spend this E3 showing off gimmicky software and bragging about their sales like they have been doing every other year. I want some full blown games aimed at the hardcore gamers who supported them for so long.

Infernal Monkey Jun 2, 2009 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 705961)
Looking forward to Nintendo pulling sells numbers out of its ass and announcing a direct port of a 10 year old game tomorrow.

Pilotwings 64? Wait, that's more than 10 years old. You've ruined E3, Miles!

http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/ar...12617_640w.jpg
Apparently this is supposed to be Subpar Mazza Bros. Wii if you zoom in and up the contrast and dance around.

http://i41.tinypic.com/16kqtqc.jpg








http://i44.tinypic.com/xde2yu.jpg

Fuck yes video games are cool!! (To play!!!!!!!!! :guitarist: )

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 11:07 AM

Oh god she's back >.> it doesn't start well...

SailorDaravon Jun 2, 2009 11:16 AM

So wait, 4-player co-op equals Mario in the "4th dimension"? What the fuck, I was expecting them to whip out some crazy thing or something. Game still looks interesting though.

And man, I hate this woman. She reminds me of a hateful bitch who is trying to talk to you nice.

Dark Nation Jun 2, 2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon (Post 706064)
And man, I hate this woman. She reminds me of a hateful bitch who is trying to talk to you nice.

I imagine its like, she HATES Video Games, couldn't give two shits about them, but she was offered a lucrative paycheck so she bit the bullet and attended this "eeethree thingy". Bitches who hate shit but have to be polite ALWAYS have that same off-kilter fake smile.

JUST ANNOUNCED: GOLDEN SUN DS.

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 11:42 AM

well I guess for now it's not as bad as I thought, even if it was predicable (beside golden sun DS).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 706065)
Bitches who hate shit but have to be polite ALWAYS have that same off-kilter fake smile.

Actually she doesn't even try to smile this year!

Shenlon Jun 2, 2009 11:42 AM

Too many women dying in todays world? No problem! Nintendo gives us the Womens Murder Club!
Now in pink for the female gamer

Miles Jun 2, 2009 11:44 AM

Golden sun ds? I am slowly starting to <3 nintendo again. I'd prefer a wii version but this will still do nicely. <3

SailorDaravon Jun 2, 2009 11:45 AM

This is possibly actually worse than last year's conference, how is this even possible

New Super Mario Bros Wii and Golden Sun DS are both pretty cool, but everything else has been the same casual crap they did last year, but actually even worse. Also Reggie and the other guy talking about the Motion + thing capturing movement and everything seems retarded after MS yesterday.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 2, 2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 705961)
Looking forward to Nintendo pulling sells numbers out of its ass and announcing a direct port of a 10 year old game tomorrow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miles (Post 706068)
Golden sun ds? I am slowly starting to <3 nintendo again. I'd prefer a wii version but this will still do nicely. <3

lol.

:tpg:

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon (Post 706070)
Also Reggie and the other guy talking about the Motion + thing capturing movement and everything seems retarded after MS yesterday.

True, Microsoft manage to do what the Wii should have been from the start.

Dark Nation Jun 2, 2009 11:52 AM

omg dsi on facebook!!!!!11

Sheesh, can we get to some actual games again? And you're right Inhert, she had this "I'm disappointed in all you" look. I guess bitch is getting paid enough to not give a shit.

Iwata just came out, so maybe now we'll hear something INTERESTING. Pie Charts

SailorDaravon Jun 2, 2009 11:55 AM

Several liveblogs are reporting that there are literally a few people asleep in the theatre.

Dark Nation Jun 2, 2009 11:59 AM

Vitality Sensor? Seriously?

Okay I'm done watching this shit, let me know if any GAMES appear later on.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 2, 2009 12:00 PM

This just in: Wii Thetan Meter for casual scientologists worldwide.

Aardark Jun 2, 2009 12:00 PM

They announced a vitality sensor...

Well, at least Sony doesn't have to worry about having the worst conference this year.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 2, 2009 12:03 PM

I think the idea of simultaneous multiplayer for Mario could have appeal... if it doesn't degenerate into the "clusterfuck for coins" method of multiplayer that was in New Super Mario Bros.

MOTHERFUCKING MEGATON EDIT: SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ty-e309--2.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...ty-e309--1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...y-e309-key.jpg

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 12:04 PM

Finally something interesting, Mario galaxy 2! Now with more yoshi!!

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 2, 2009 12:04 PM

Aside from that reused boss with a new method of fighting him, Mario Galaxy 2 looks fantastic. It's been so long since we've had Yoshi as more than just a bonus for perfecting the game.

Aardark Jun 2, 2009 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 706083)
MOTHERFUCKING MEGATON EDIT: SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2

A new Mario game by Nintendo? This is shocking, shocking. Next: a Zelda sequel?!

Dark Nation Jun 2, 2009 12:11 PM

NEW METROID, FUCK YES

Super Mario Galaxy 2 is a welcome surprise as well.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 2, 2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 706086)
A new Mario game by Nintendo? This is shocking, shocking. Next: a Zelda sequel?!

Two in one hour is, my good man, and Yoshi returning is a little surprising since he sucked in Sunshine and was completely worked out of Galaxy. And as I know Miles loves to mount animals, I could not contain my happiness for him.

EDIT: Wow, Team Ninja Metroid. Now that is surprising.

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 12:12 PM

Damn they go out with a bang but with no zelda :(

So I guess only Galaxy 2 and the new metroid looked really good.

Seriously Sony can't be that bad after that...

S_K Jun 2, 2009 12:13 PM

Super Mario galaxy 2, you know in PC land we call that kind of game an expansion pack, also looks like the new metriod is going down the more dark and serious route.

SailorDaravon Jun 2, 2009 12:14 PM

HOLY FUCKING SHIT TEAM NINJA METROID WHAT THE FUCK IT LOOKS AWESOME SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 2, 2009 12:15 PM

Looks like it fits right in with Fusion's story too, using that commander who calls her "lady." Of course, the story could be absolutely horrible and the game would still be great with action like that Ridley fight they showed.

Lukage Jun 2, 2009 12:19 PM

Gotta love comparing pages 3 and 4. No Star Fox or Zelda, but hey, this is damn good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon (Post 706070)
Also Reggie and the other guy talking about the Motion + thing capturing movement and everything seems retarded after MS yesterday.

You're making it seem like Nintendo is trying to get ideas from Microsoft here....despite the 360 sensor bar being them.....taking after Nintendo. :roll:

Rockgamer Jun 2, 2009 12:19 PM

Team Ninja Metroid was the only thing worth watching that conference for, but it's still not enough to actually get me to buy a Wii.

NovaX Jun 2, 2009 12:20 PM

2 Mario's, a New Golden Sun & New Metroid. I'm happy.

K_ Takahashi Jun 2, 2009 12:21 PM

Outsourcing done right, though I wish I did not have to sit through the hour just to get it.

FatsDomino Jun 2, 2009 12:21 PM

I like how Team Ninja Metroid is made of plastic.

Helloween Jun 2, 2009 12:29 PM

A while ago (like on friday) IGN said they have it on very good authority that Retro studios was working on a Zelda game, but made it clear that this project had been canned.

Now, didn't Retro say on twitter or some thing similar that "we will be pleasantly surprised."

Only logic dictates that if Retro would have something ready for today, it would be a Zelda title.

So what the fuck happened retro? What were you going to surprise us with? Where's my Zelda title?

Snowknight Jun 2, 2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helloween (Post 706100)
Now, didn't Retro say on twitter or some thing similar that "we will be pleasantly surprised."

Possibly it came from this Twitter account.

NovaX Jun 2, 2009 12:37 PM

Yeah I'm pretty sure that was from a fake Twitter.

Helloween Jun 2, 2009 12:38 PM

ok, thanks for clearing that up

SuperSonic Jun 2, 2009 12:43 PM

Once again, no Star Fox. Don't get me wrong, there were some good announcements in there within the boring sales charts and bullshit but come on, Nintendo.

And fuck that soccer mom for returning. On second thought, don't. She doesn't deserve it.

Chaotic Jun 2, 2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon (Post 706092)
HOLY FUCKING SHIT TEAM NINJA METROID WHAT THE FUCK IT LOOKS AWESOME SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT

All I though after the trailer was, "Fuck, Team Ninja... We're gonna get shitty camera angles."

:(

Snowknight Jun 2, 2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSonic (Post 706106)
And fuck that soccer mom for returning. On second thought, don't. She doesn't deserve it.

She does work for Nintendo, you know. grr she doesn't even deserve our anger that cunt grr

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 2, 2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SailorDaravon (Post 706092)
HOLY FUCKING SHIT TEAM NINJA METROID WHAT THE FUCK IT LOOKS AWESOME SHIIIIIIIIIIIIT

So are we to assume that Samus will have massive, bouncing tits now?

I'd say that a couple of Mario games, a Metroid game and a remake of Golden Sun is pretty fucking weak as a lineup. I mean, I'm sure for people who like that kind of thing that the new Mario game will be great but it's not exactly shocking or exciting news is it? The reaction to the review here of the first Golden Sun would suggest that nobody really liked it much so who could possibly be excited about a remake except Miles and the chances of Nintendo not making another Metroid game, given their love of using all their old IP for at least two games a year, was pretty slim.

Like I say, I'm sure the Nintendo fans amongst you will be overjoyed that these long-running franchises have not been abandoned but there's little news there for casual users of the format to be interested in.

value tart Jun 2, 2009 01:48 PM

The cool part about this is watching Miles be completely oblivious to how his comments about "Nintendo needs to support the hardcore gamers" have fallen completely by the wayside after a whopping four games in the next year get announced.

Do you want to know why they don't make more, Miles?

It's because you're already content with four after foaming at the mouth just a few hours ago.

Say what you will about Nintendo, but they fucking know their audience.

nanstey Jun 2, 2009 02:08 PM

FINAL FANTASY VII ON PSN TODAY!!!! JUST ANNOUNCED!!!!

Single Elbow Jun 2, 2009 02:14 PM

What. FFVII only?

Hell, Jap PSN has Vagrant Story in their ranks. NEEDS MORE GAMES OTHER THAN FFVII.

Chaotic Jun 2, 2009 02:30 PM

Final Fantasy XIV.

Sony had the whole E3 conference for ONE minute. When they said "Online" they lost it. They lost it all.

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 02:30 PM

WHAT!!! FFXIV!

So this is the new mmorpg Square-enix was working on :)

I'm a fan of FFXI and still playing it, so I'm really excited about it :)

FFXI was the first successful MMORPG on console so we can only hope that FFXIV will be as good.

value tart Jun 2, 2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luxray (Post 706132)
Final Fantasy XIV.

Sony had the whole E3 conference for ONE minute. When they said "Online" they lost it. They lost it all.

So announcing the sequel to the sequel that hasn't come out yet is somehow cool news before they announce it's an MMO?

Chaotic Jun 2, 2009 02:46 PM

It's wishful thinking, Mo0.

It could've possibly been the reason that I actually purchase a PS3. BECAUSE it's an MMO, I immediately lost interest.

But hey, a person can dream, right? :(

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 02:48 PM

I wouldn't really call it sequel though.

and if I remember Rapture was the code name for the next MMORPG of Square-Enix and it's been in development for some time now.

It's called Final Fantasy XIV but I see it more like a spin-off, like FFXI was.

nuttyturnip Jun 2, 2009 02:50 PM

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Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 2, 2009 02:51 PM

I would like to be excited for XIV, but monthly fees are such a turnoff.

wvlfpvp Jun 2, 2009 03:08 PM

I dunno about you, but I like the idea of paying full price for something and then running up 5 times as much money over the course of time.

Chaotic Jun 2, 2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 706145)
I would like be excited for XIV, but monthly fees are such a turnoff.

Pretty much this. If there aren't any for this game, then I'm completely sold.

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 03:16 PM

yeah not everyone like MMO because of the monthly fee, but you can't deny that MMO are popular and this will probably sell a lot and cash a lot of money.

Maybe not by you but by, many more.

Aardark Jun 2, 2009 03:23 PM

Well, Sony showed some good stuff. I'm disappointed that they didn't demo Heavy Rain or Final Fantasy XIII Versus, but there was a Rockstar North exclusive out of nowhere, and their motion control shit looks cool to me (as does Microsoft's Natal, but I think there's a better chance that Sony's version will actually get used in real games before 2015).

FFXIV was exactly as Luxary said, they had the whole E3 for one minute, before "Online" showed up; you could literally hear the disappointment in the hall. Still, it's the first big online RPG on a current-gen console, who knows, it might be cool.

All in all, good stuff by Microsoft and Sony this year, and Nintendo was once again a disappointment to anyone who's not a bored housewife or still stuck in 1994 and unable to let go of Mario, Zelda and Metroid.

FatsDomino Jun 2, 2009 03:24 PM

See it would be one thing if this final fantasy 11 part 28 wasn't a grindfest and did something interesting with being an MMO but no it'll just be like every other grindfest but prettier. Whatever. You have fun with that thing.

Helloween Jun 2, 2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 706110)
and a remake of Golden Sun

What makes you think it's a remake? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Golden Sun III

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 04:24 PM

So now that the press conferences are over, what you guys think of the e3 this year? Was it what you expected, more or less or as lame as last year?

For me I'm pretty exited. Some good surprises from Microsoft and Sony has a solid line-up for the next year. Nintendo on the other hand fall last again with almost all casual game showed and only 2-3 interesting titles.

Motion control was a big thing this year too, now every console has they motion controller gimmick, but I think Microsoft might have something good with they project natal, not just for games but for the practicality of using it to navigate the menu (if it works correctly for voice and motion recognition)

Chaotic Jun 2, 2009 04:36 PM

I was pretty excited about Nintendo's stuff. Call me a sucker for the interesting titles they had there (New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Super Mario Galaxy 2, Golden Sun DS, Metroid: Other M), but that was more than enough to make me impressed with them. Looking forward to their releases.

As for Microsoft, the only thing I was really interested in was Left 4 Dead 2. Natal looks promising, but I'm reserving my judgment until other things come out for it.

Sony almost had me with Final Fantasy XIV, as mentioned earlier, but MMO dropped the bomb on me pretty badly. They had a really nice showing of games (Uncharted 2, The Last Guardian, the lawl trailer for the PSP Metal Gear Solid game). Overall I was impressed with them.

Ranking them in order for what I liked: Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft.

As I said, call me a sucker for what Nintendo is offering up, but hell, it's working. I would care a little more about Sony if I actually had a PS3 or a PSP. Microsoft, I suppose, just needed to show me a couple more games I could be interested in instead of having Facebook, Twitter, and Last.FM attached to the 360.

Plus, Koopa Kids might be making a return in the New Super Mario Bros. Wii.

http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/pho...Koopa_Kids.jpg

[ source ]

Tails Jun 2, 2009 04:49 PM

Shit, there was an E3 this year? I was asleep the whole time because of how much E3 sucks but what did I miss.

Someone was talking about some new Metroid Gaiden where Samus travels back to America after Prime 3 to avenge the death of her father which seems pretty cool and all but, really I just want to know.

Is Halo 4 coming or what.

Helloween Jun 2, 2009 04:53 PM

Basically, I liked what Nintendo had to offer. the only thing wrong with it was no Wii zelda. If they had given us that with everything else i would have forgiven them completely. As it stands, they're getting there.

Microsoft didn't wow me. It was forgettable, and i really don't recall anything was particularly excited about.

Sony convinced me to buy a PS3, but it'll be a while before i have that kind of money. They did enrage me though, just the way the kept on talking about themselves, and how they're offering us the future. I was stoked for FF XIV, but as soon as i found out it was an MMO, i lost interest. I really wish they'd drop that shit, and get to fucking work on Kingdom Hearts III. Loved Last Guardian btw. Want to see more of it sooooo bad

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 2, 2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tails (Post 706186)
Is Halo 4 coming or what.

Yep, but they're calling it Halo Reach, one imagines it won't have a happy ending. Late 2010 I think I read somewhere, although they've still not settled on a date for ODST or whatever it's called have they? There were Sony and PC types frothing on the EDGE message board about how MS are milking Halo, having just announced the sixth game over a period of about eight years. I guess that was before Nintendo announced two new Mario games, bringing the total milked out of the franchise to a good 50 odd.

Tails Jun 2, 2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 706190)
Yep, but they're calling it Halo Reach, one imagines it won't have a happy ending. Late 2010 I think I read somewhere, although they've still not settled on a date for ODST or whatever it's called have they? There were Sony and PC types frothing on the EDGE message board about how MS are milking Halo, having just announced the sixth game over a period of about eight years. I guess that was before Nintendo announced two new Mario games, bringing the total milked out of the franchise to a good 50 odd.


While inherently awesome, that seems like it'd be a "prequel/side story" of sorts since the events of Reach took place before the first Halo:CE, cannon-wise anyway. It's also the best of the Halo novels but that is neither here nor there.

As for ODST, isn't that supposed to be September sometime this year?

Regarding series hypocrisy: lol.

Omnislash124 Jun 2, 2009 05:29 PM

I'm pretty sure I'm biased since the Wii is the only current-gen console I own, but Nintendo's showing excited me more than the others. Even though people will say "yet another Mario game," Mario games have always been on track in terms of production quality, gameplay, and flat out fun. Mario Galaxy 2 should be good (though I hope they don't call it that.) and Super Mario Bros. Wii brings in 4 player co-op for the first time in a Mario game, which I'm really excited about. I'm not all that big of a fan for Metroid, but it's still interesting, since Team Ninja will be behind the wheel this time. Golden Sun DS, assuming it's a sequel, is also great news. Contrary to the GFF Gamer's Month's overall feeling of the game, I enjoyed Golden Sun on the GBA quite a bit.

The only thing that stood out from Microsoft for me was Natal (once again, probably because I don't own a 360), and it's still too early to tell how that's going to turn out. Sony had a pretty good showing with Uncharted 2. I'm actually with Chaotic on this one and that Final Fantasy XIV would have been gold for me if it wasn't for the "online" that came out partway through. Their motion controller seemed interesting, but it's not much that hasn't been done before, that and it's still quite clearly in prototyping. The demonstrator wasn't exactly very good with it either, but it does have promise. The LBP/Mario Kart bastard child actually seemed pretty cool, IMO, though I forget what the name of it was. Custom track creation really piqued my interest. I'd been planning on getting a PS3 sometime soon already, and Sony has held my interest enough during the conference to keep me to it.

In my opinion: Nintendo's Conference > Sony's Conference > Microsoft's Conference

The unmovable stubborn Jun 2, 2009 05:32 PM

This is the year Nintendo goes out of business for sure

That will teach them to alienate hardcore gamers like me

SimDaddyGT Jun 2, 2009 05:44 PM

Halo 3 ODST - Set for 9/22/09
Halo Reach - Set for #/##/10

ODST looks like it would be something worth playing. Not 100% digging how it could possibly feel like a free-running thing. Never did like that about games (s'why I quit Burnout Paradise after so long). Also a little skeptical on the new stamina system he was talking about. Kinda falls back to Halo 1's shield/health system where you actually had to go hunting down medpacks every 2nd or 3rd gunfight. Dual wielding is gone, so no more SMG/Plasma rifle combos, however, I'm glad to see they've returned the pistol to its roots with a zoom and 12 rounds. Firefight mode sounds like it'll be a hell of a blast, despite the fact that people will whine saying it's a ripoff of Horde from Gears 2 or Nazi Zombies from CoD:WaW. It's co-op features like this that make games nowadays more fun.

New Super Mario Bros. Wii sounds pretty promising. I've demo'd the DS version and came to like it, so I'm more than willing to give this a shot. Hell, it's gotta be better than most of the games Mario's been in as of late.

Now, I'm no God of War fan, and I personally doubt I will get GoW3, but I can say it looked very beautiful.

Since God of War is not on my to-buy list, I'll fill that empty slot with MAG. Yes, it's another FPS, and yes, sadly, it's on PS3. However, it looks that good enough of a title to buy FOR the PS3. Like ET: Quake Wars, it focuses primarily on objective-type matches. Sure, I'd much rather prefer a simple Deathmatch style, but meh, I've got friends getting it, so I know it'll make it more fun.


As far as Final Fantasy... well... at least they broke from MMO-style combat for XIII before announcing another MMO in XIV. Let's hope the new ATB system doesn't piss people off too much.

Buizel Jun 2, 2009 05:52 PM

I like how everybody most people here think that Nintendo should be "tailoring" to hardcore gamers.

Sure Nintendo presentation sucks so bad that I almost fall asleep but when they announce SMBWii, SMG2, Golden Sun DS (I'm sure it's a not a remake as someone said) and the new Metroid, I was excited.

For a person who own all three console, IMO Microsoft presentation 'won' this year but nothing interest me beside Final Fantasy 13 (though I'm just going to get it for the PS3) and maybe whatever developers make for Project Natal. Sony comes in second, was only interested in a few games like ModNation Racer (I was excited for Final Fantasy 14 until "online" popped up!).

deadally Jun 2, 2009 05:59 PM

Quote:

New Super Mario Bros. Wii sounds pretty promising. I've demo'd the DS version and came to like it, so I'm more than willing to give this a shot. Hell, it's gotta be better than most of the games Mario's been in as of late.
You say that like there has been a plethora of bad Mario games for Wii. Also, you should play the whole of New SMB. Fun stuff

I enjoyed what I saw of the Nintendo conference. Mario Galaxy 2 floored me, totally unexpected. There was so much more to explore in Mario Galaxy that I'm excited to play it!

The Wii super mario brothers looks promising. I wonder how fun the coop will be, though. I'm a huge fan of local multiplayer, especially coop games, so I hold out hope. My thoughts drift to how much BIGGER this mario brothers game could be. How many different worlds? How amazing can they make it? They don't have the limited DS hardware, so we could see something very exciting!

SailorDaravon Jun 2, 2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tails (Post 706186)
Shit, there was an E3 this year? I was asleep the whole time because of how much E3 sucks but what did I miss.

Someone was talking about some new Metroid Gaiden where Samus travels back to America after Prime 3 to avenge the death of her father which seems pretty cool and all but, really I just want to know.

Is Halo 4 coming or what.

I was just skimming your post and for some reason I read it as "Samus travels back to America to avenge the death of her father Optimus Prime" and I realized that would be 10 times more awesome.

Gechmir Jun 2, 2009 06:25 PM

Trailer/Teaser for new Metroid game.

Supposedly a remake of Super Metroid. Oh yeah, Team Ninja is doing it so it'll be fucking awesome. etc.

Aardark Jun 2, 2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 706199)
This is the year Nintendo goes out of business for sure

That will teach them to alienate hardcore gamers like me

Don't think anyone suggested that Nintendo will go out of business. Did you just write this zinger down earlier and didn't want to see it go to waste?

The unmovable stubborn Jun 2, 2009 08:04 PM

No, I'm suggesting it.

If nobody else was brave enough to suggest it that's too bad because I'm suggesting it now and the opportunity for the rest of you to suggest it is long gone

dibs baby dibs

If I interrupted anyone's enthusiasm for the Sega Activator Mk. 2 I apologize

Bradylama Jun 2, 2009 10:06 PM

Maybe now that E3 is live they'll have to hire hot chicks that have taken college-level speech courses instead of trotting out exotic foreign developers with fantastic things to show us about AMERICAN GAMES.

http://content.pyzam.com/graphics/sh...ide/MJZ598.gif

Shonos Jun 2, 2009 10:24 PM

Good job SE, you could of at least come up with an original idea instead of FFXI-2. The races are even the god damn same! Mithra, Galka, Hume, and Elvaan.. they're all in there.

I don't know what to think about this. This will probably kill FFXI, and I doubt many will join up on FFXI-2, er excuse me, FFXIV after experiencing the fucks up with FFXI.

I really don't see any reason why to go try it when I'm already playing FFXI. Hi-res mithra booty isn't enough to make me switch, either. Just more of the same but prettier..

Bradylama Jun 2, 2009 10:26 PM

Also can somebody sum up E3 for me? I didn't actually watch it.

Inhert Jun 2, 2009 10:35 PM

We are not really sure if its the same races, even if they do look a lot like them. The galka type character didn't had a tail in the trailer and we didn't see any mithra.

For all we know they could just be place holder...

but the phrase: "you must join hands... once again" really make it seem like a sequel.

I don't know, they might be a reason story wise. Maybe it's set in the future or FFXI, or in another dimension or something lol I really don't know. I guess we'll have to wait for more news.

Bradylama Jun 2, 2009 10:37 PM

Every Final Fantasy is like the same shit over and over again. The advent of FFX-2 is proof that Square-Enix has grown wise to the fact that you people will gobble up anything.

Enter User Name Jun 2, 2009 10:51 PM

You can say that about any genre of games. Especially sports games, and FPS. Final Fantasy has far more variety in my opinion.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 2, 2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhert (Post 706271)
We are not really sure if its the same races, even if they do look a lot like them. The galka type character didn't had a tail in the trailer and we didn't see any mithra.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...el/ffxiv14.jpg
Don't make me circle her ass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 706269)
Also can somebody sum up E3 for me? I didn't actually watch it.

Microsoft: "MYSPACE WHORES, UNITE"
Nintendo: "NOW HAVE YOUR GAMES CHECK YOUR VITALS TO TELL YOU YOURE A FATASS"
Sony: "WAGGLING OUR PHALLIC OBJECT IS WAY COOLER"

Sarag Jun 2, 2009 11:02 PM

MAN FUCK GAMES

wvlfpvp Jun 2, 2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 706272)
Every Final Fantasy is like the same shit over and over again. The advent of FFX-2 is proof that Square-Enix has grown wise to the fact that you people will gobble up anything.

No, it means that most of you idiots don't recognize the first truly FUN Final Fantasy in a LONG TIME.

Story notwithstanding (and even then it has some of the more fucked moments in it (the Ronso die if you don't do stuff in a specific order what?)) those battles were the best FF battles ever.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 2, 2009 11:14 PM

I would also like to antagonize and insult an ambiguous group of people to somehow disassociate myself.

Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you goddamn morons?

The unmovable stubborn Jun 2, 2009 11:17 PM

Ambiguous? The group he's deriding is very specific.

"People who like Final Fantasy, but didn't like FFX-2".

And I feel comfortable in joining him in dismissing that group of people as a bunch of total shitbags, for various reasons.

Bradylama Jun 2, 2009 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 706278)
No, it means that most of you idiots don't recognize the first truly FUN Final Fantasy in a LONG TIME.

Story notwithstanding (and even then it has some of the more fucked moments in it (the Ronso die if you don't do stuff in a specific order what?)) those battles were the best FF battles ever.

I'm not saying FFX-2 was a bad game, I actually haven't played any Final Fantasy since X. :eagletear:

Skexis Jun 2, 2009 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 706280)
Ambiguous? The group he's deriding is very specific.

"People who like Final Fantasy, but didn't like FFX-2".

And I feel comfortable in joining him in dismissing that group of people as a bunch of total shitbags, for various reasons.

Well I...

;_;

Bradylama Jun 3, 2009 12:00 AM

Have people called it Project Navel, yet?

value tart Jun 3, 2009 12:03 AM

You're the first one, what a surprise that is :)

Lukage Jun 3, 2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 706162)
All in all, good stuff by Microsoft and Sony this year, and Nintendo was once again a disappointment to anyone who's not a bored housewife or still stuck in 1994 and unable to let go of Mario, Zelda and Metroid.

Yet the sequels for the other consoles keep rolling out...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helloween (Post 706187)
Basically, I liked what Nintendo had to offer. the only thing wrong with it was no Wii zelda. If they had given us that with everything else i would have forgiven them completely.

And they did. IGN Advertisement

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 706236)
No, I'm suggesting it.

If nobody else was brave enough to suggest it that's too bad because I'm suggesting it now and the opportunity for the rest of you to suggest it is long gone

Considering they've been the most profitable developers, dream on.

Looking forward to tomorrow the most for 3rd party developers, as the "Big 3" aren't announcing new consoles, so its up to the 3rd party again for the real news.

Also overlooked: Fuck yeah Revan in The Old Republic.

Inhert Jun 3, 2009 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GB (Post 706276)

mouahaha epic fail to me lol, I really didn't see her at all in the trailer.

so I guess I'll wait for an explanation from Square-enix. (this sure does make FFXIV less interesting...)

Bradylama Jun 3, 2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo0 (Post 706288)
You're the first one, what a surprise that is :)

It's always been my dream to pre-empt nerd rage.

Additional Spam:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhert (Post 706290)
mouahaha epic fail to me lol

http://membres.lycos.fr/silentkingdom/vp_gff2.jpg

Infernal Monkey Jun 3, 2009 12:17 AM

Look at all these fucking video games!!! ( :rock: ) None of these are no good video games to fucking video game with because I dislike COMPANY which I have not the fuck. HARDCORE casual grandmas ARKANOID.

This E3 is worse than a ham sandwich that has been dropped into the sand pit. The Internet will feel my text for certain.

value tart Jun 3, 2009 12:19 AM

A ham sandwich that has been dropped into the sand pit is at least somewhat edible, Infernal.

I fear that we are not dealing with a ham sandwich...

but a turkey sandwich.

Infernal Monkey Jun 3, 2009 12:22 AM

WHAT A SCOOP! =O This further fuels speculation about everything!

Skexis Jun 3, 2009 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 706289)
Also overlooked: Fuck yeah Revan in The Old Republic.

Are you referring to the sith lord in the trailer? It's 300 years after the Old Republic games, so I don't think it's Revan.

Supposedly the canon has Revan as light side, too, so.

Grundlefield Earth Jun 3, 2009 12:38 AM

Yeah Fuck FF14 MMO, Old republic bitches.

ps don't Star Wars characters live a loonnnnnnnnnng time. Like Yoda.

Lukage Jun 3, 2009 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skexis (Post 706297)
Are you referring to the sith lord in the trailer? It's 300 years after the Old Republic games, so I don't think it's Revan.

Supposedly the canon has Revan as light side, too, so.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swtor
Star Wars: The Old Republic takes place approximately three hundred years after the events of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (KOTOR). At the conclusion of the Jedi Civil War in KOTOR, Revan disappeared into unknown space in search of a great threat to the Republic, an expanding Sith Empire led by a mysterious Emperor who planned vengeance for his ancient Jedi enemies. Revan never returned from unknown space, but the Sith Empire did, kicking off a war with the Republic that lasted for decades.

I'm 90% positive its him.

Dark Nation Jun 3, 2009 12:54 AM

The Star Wars MMO is a lot more interesting to me then 14, I mean XI-2. To try and answer your question, I think some do live for a really long time; but likely most of them get killed long before they would die of old age, by a lightsaber or blaster or pissing off a wookie and so forth.

UltimaIchijouji Jun 3, 2009 12:57 AM

The more I think about it, the more I'm warming up to FFXIV being an MMO. I enjoyed FFXI for a while. Was it flawed? Absolutely. But it was a fun game. I had a lot more fun with it than I did with WoW.

So long as they make some innovations and actually fix the mistakes they made with FFXI, this second coming of the Square MMO could be the one that is successful, for them and for the players.

Animechanic Jun 3, 2009 01:39 AM

Has it been confirmed to be an MMO or is the keyword "online" all we know for sure? Online multiplayer co-op action/RPG seem to be popping up a lot lately, so maybe Square Enix is jumping on that bandwagon.

Inhert Jun 3, 2009 01:49 AM

Final Fantasy XI logo as the same online key word:
http://www.markeedragon.com/images/b...ffxi-cover.jpg

and to more precise: FINAL FANTASY XIV

Under information the game genre is: massively multiplayer online role-playing game

oh and btw I just notice Nobuo Uematsu is doing the soundtrack!

Skexis Jun 3, 2009 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukage (Post 706300)
I'm 90% positive its him.

Well, I mean, if "Revan never returned from unknown space," I'd say that kinda wraps it up.

I think they have more to tell in the Revan plotline, so I don't think they'd give away the ending, in a sense, by having him as such an influential dark side character.

@BZ: theoretically, yes, dark side characters can use techniques to extend their life, but 300 years would seem to be stretching it. From an in-universe viewpoint, it would allow the Siths to effectively win the war, because they could simply wait until the light side masters died off or became too decrepit to defend themselves.

Yoda's race just happened to be one that lives ~1000 years.

Additional Spam:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultima (Post 706303)
The more I think about it, the more I'm warming up to FFXIV being an MMO. I enjoyed FFXI for a while. Was it flawed? Absolutely. But it wasn't a fun game. I had a lot more fun with it than I did with WoW.

So long as they make some innovations and actually fix the mistakes they made with FFXI, this second coming of the Square MMO could be the one that is successful, for them and for the players.

I really tried to like FFXI, and the thing that appealed to me the most in watching a couple of my friends play was that it necessitated team play, and moreover, each class was distinct, and brought something to the table that no other class really could. I couldn't play it because of the slow speed and donkey shit interface, though. I wasn't about to spend my trial month just trying to figure out how to get from the vendor and back to the field.

If they can clean it up significantly, and make it more appealing to new players, I'll certainly check it out.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 3, 2009 04:41 AM

Although chucking Revan back into the new Old Republic game would certainly be good for the hype machine, he'd only be there as an npc since it's an MMO isn't it? I mean, everyone can't all play as Revan right so you'll be some random Jedi and I'm willing to bet it's a random Sith pretending to be Revan, saving the real Revan for a KOTOR 3, featuring the Exile as well. It'd certainly make more sense to me to have a KOTOR 3 where you're travelling the outer reaches looking for Revan and the Exile, rather than have either of them as antagonists in a game set 300 years later.

In terms of Sith surviving that long though, I'm pretty sure all the Sith in KOTOR 2 were supposedly hundreds of years old, Darth Treya having trained the other two, who both have powers of unkillability in one form or another.

Timberwolf8889 Jun 3, 2009 05:14 AM

So far, I'm excited for FFXIII, hoping it will be fun at least, but not excited for it's shoddy voice acting. I read somewhere "the voice acting is shaping up pretty good." No it's not, it sounds like another mouth abortion like FFX did. The Last Guardian trailer stirred up a pretty fierce desire to see more. And since I'm not an MMO person the FFXIV and Star Wars MMO stuff has just been pretty over my head.

So far nothing too shocking, though PS3's new motion controller has me a bit confused but whatever works for you Sony, whatever works.

surasshu Jun 3, 2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inhert (Post 706309)
oh and btw I just notice Nobuo Uematsu is doing the soundtrack!

Holy shit best news of E3 by far. Soundtrack purchase, here I come! :3:

Hamauzu's work on FFXIII sounds pretty good too from the trailer, but it's really not been the same since they ousted Uematsu. Oh wait the best song in that trailer was written by Uematsu too. :D

Also how did nobody talk about the epicly awesome updated trailer for TricTHE LAST GUARDIAN

:333:

El Ray Fernando Jun 3, 2009 09:44 AM

I thought due to the time lapse in news it would get cancelled but Alan Wake looks incredible.

Alan Wake Stage Demo Gameplay Movie - GameSpot E3 2009 Gameplay Movie

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 3, 2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by surasshu (Post 706384)
Holy shit best news of E3 by far. Soundtrack purchase, here I come! :3:

Hamauzu's work on FFXIII sounds pretty good too from the trailer, but it's really not been the same since they ousted Uematsu. Oh wait the best song in that trailer was written by Uematsu too. :D

http://www.teamteabag.com/wp-content...e_people_1.jpg

nuttyturnip Jun 3, 2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by IGN
In Wii Fit Plus, users will be able to input the amount of time they want to workout or select an improvement area -- say, their stomach or their legs -- and the game will customize an exercise program for them. Users will be able to mix and match strength and yoga activities they prefer. The title will also provided estimated calories burned percentages after workouts. But of course, the feature that our own Craig Harris is most excited about is a special new option that allows users to accurately weigh their dogs or cats.

It's kitty weighing time.

Bradylama Jun 3, 2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 706354)
Although chucking Revan back into the new Old Republic game would certainly be good for the hype machine, he'd only be there as an npc since it's an MMO isn't it? I mean, everyone can't all play as Revan right so you'll be some random Jedi and I'm willing to bet it's a random Sith pretending to be Revan, saving the real Revan for a KOTOR 3, featuring the Exile as well. It'd certainly make more sense to me to have a KOTOR 3 where you're travelling the outer reaches looking for Revan and the Exile, rather than have either of them as antagonists in a game set 300 years later.

In terms of Sith surviving that long though, I'm pretty sure all the Sith in KOTOR 2 were supposedly hundreds of years old, Darth Treya having trained the other two, who both have powers of unkillability in one form or another.

King Conan is an NPC in Age of Conan, so when it comes to MMOs anything is fair game.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 3, 2009 11:21 AM

Um, I can already accurately weigh my cat using weighing scales, why do I need a Wii fit board to do it?

Weigh yourself, then pick up the cat and weigh yourself again, the cat's weight is the difference, which I imagine is exactly how it'll work in Wii Fit 2. Hardly a feature that's going to change the world, unless people don't own bathroom scales I guess.

nuttyturnip Jun 3, 2009 11:26 AM

I was mostly being sarcastic. Still, between Personal Trainer: Walking and Wii Fit Plus, Nintendo is really cornering the market on pet fitness.

Worm Jun 3, 2009 11:54 AM

They're cornering the demographic that believes what they see on fitness infomercials; that's for sure.

Timberwolf8889 Jun 3, 2009 01:10 PM

Now Nintendo just needs a wireless ab-jiggling attachment and they'll own the TV-fitness market.

Sousuke Jun 3, 2009 04:04 PM

When they played the teaser for Metroid: Other M, I was floored. I mean, Team Ninja doing Metroid? Awesome. Can't wait to see how that pans out.

And the whole "Any objections, lady?" was great. Throwback to Fusion!

And Golden Sun DS? FUCK YES.

Tails Jun 3, 2009 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sousuke (Post 706460)
And the whole "Any objections, lady?" was great. Throwback to Fusion!

While this does seem kind of cool you have to remember that Fusion is more or less regarded as one of the worst entries in the series.

SuperSonic Jun 3, 2009 05:49 PM

Kojima has announced his four projects: Metal Gear Arcade, Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, Metal Gear Solid Rising, and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow (the mask rumor). Peace Walker and Castlevania will be out by 2010. There's no release date for Rising or Arcade, however Arcade will hit arcades in Japan first followed by a worldwide release.

Zefier Jun 3, 2009 06:06 PM

...well, I think I just ended up missing all of E3. From what I can get, Microsoft released an Eyetoy+ that won't be developed for, Nintendo churned out more shit from their franchises, and Sony let Square Enix loose with their shittastic 3D models.

God. Damn. It.

(At least there's Modern Warfare 2.)

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 3, 2009 06:13 PM

Moving on to games that they're showing off this year, I found some things on Nintendo's E3 website. After a brief reprieve with Disaster: Day of Crisis, Nintendo has Monolith Soft working on a new RPG-- that being Monado: Beginning of the World for the Wii.

YouTube Video

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...creenshot2.jpg

Also of note is Nintendo's quiet announcement that The Glory of Heracles is making its way over. That was the most recent entry into the series in Japan, and a first for North America. It was a pretty darn good RPG released for the DS in... early 2008? I don't think it was 2007.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...engel/logo.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...creenshot7.jpg http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27...creenshot6.jpg

Taco Jun 3, 2009 06:14 PM

Heracles came out in Mid-2008, I think it was mid-July?

In any case, it's still an awesome game. One of the best looking DS titles, for sure.

map car man words telling me to do things Jun 3, 2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 706462)
While this does seem kind of cool you have to remember that Fusion is more or less regarded as one of the worst entries in the series.

Most developers only wish they had game series where the worst game is still a solid 9/10. Metroid Prime 2 is far worse, don't lie

wvlfpvp Jun 4, 2009 12:42 AM

(don't forget, you're talking to the ONLY PERSON EVER who didn't have a problem with that retarded speed ball boss. You know the one. The one that made it impossible for regular people to win the game.

dagget Jun 4, 2009 07:16 AM

AMG! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow looks really really good. I think I'm anticipating that as much as God of War 3. I am preased!

map car man words telling me to do things Jun 4, 2009 07:57 AM

Hopefully they won't do the obvious "main character becomes lord of darkness!" plot twist. Otherwise it looks really good. Robert Carlyle <3



Also I don't get why more people aren't psyched for it, new look Splinter Cell Conviction looks astounding.

I really wasn't looking forward to the game based on the previous iteration but this new style has me completely sold. I love the visual style, the pace of the action and the execute system looks to work really smooth too. Game looks what Bourne should have been.

nuttyturnip Jun 4, 2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 1up
E3 Protestors Picket EA's Dante's Inferno

Protesters have formed around E3, and they're surprisingly livid about the game Dante's Inferno. 1UP user Jeff Yanick snapped photos and even interviewed one of the protesters. Cherry Adams from The Saved Group said they consider EA the "Electronic Antichrist" and are protesting based on the game's portrayal of hell. "This disrespects ourselves, the Bible, the Christian belief," she said. "We don't need this right now in our society."
Specifically her organization disagrees with the ability to leave hell, using the cross as a weapon, and the game's violence. "So we decided to come down before it's released here and spread the word so people can be informed about it." Asked why the organization is protesting the game specifically when the work of literature has been around for years, Adams feels it would encourage impressionable young people. "Our youth today live in a fantasy world to begin with, and they don't need any encouragement to follow in the sins that are laid out in the levels of hell."


Taco Jun 4, 2009 08:12 AM

EA = Electronic Anti-Christ?

Sure, we'll roll with that one.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 4, 2009 08:23 AM

Christians sure do pick some weird shit to complain about. I mean of all the things in computer games that could possibly offend a slightly nutty christian, they're pissed off that a game allows you to escape from hell? Have they not played Too Human? You get to fucking invade hell in that one, butcher your way through legions of dammed souls then nuke the place on the way out. There also weren't too many complaints about Kratos fighting his way out of the underworld in the first God of War, although to be fair there aren't too many fundamental, ancient Greek polytheists around these days.

Snowknight Jun 4, 2009 08:44 AM

Considering what happened with the likes of Dan Brown's Davinci Code, this likely comes from a not altogether unique propensity to presume their beliefs are somehow uniquely untouchable. There are "worse" games they could be protesting, but there's no doubt these people are acting on heresay: "did you hear about this game where you can leave hell? TO THE CONFERENCE"

FatsDomino Jun 4, 2009 09:05 AM

Wow. A 3D Castlevania I think I might actually want to play. Looks great and they even got a really good pool of vocal talent to go with it. =)

Rockgamer Jun 4, 2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky (Post 706636)
Also I don't get why more people aren't psyched for it, new look Splinter Cell Conviction looks astounding.

I really wasn't looking forward to the game based on the previous iteration but this new style has me completely sold. I love the visual style, the pace of the action and the execute system looks to work really smooth too. Game looks what Bourne should have been.

This is probably my game of the show so far, despite the fact that I've never played the previous games. The only reason I'm not more excited about it is that it's 360-exclusive for the moment, and I only have a PS3. There's no doubt that it'll come to the PS3 eventually, but until that happens there's no point in me getting too excited for the game yet.

But yeah, I was enthralled by this game when they showed it both during Microsoft's and Ubisoft's press conferences, even though it was the same demo both times. Both presentation and gameplay look incredible.

map car man words telling me to do things Jun 4, 2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockgamer (Post 706722)
This is probably my game of the show so far, despite the fact that I've never played the previous games.

I love all of the first three Splinter Cell games on the Xbox. They were a terrific mix of hollywood and authentic espionage, with excellent setpieces, great atmosphere and Michael Ironside building a great, properly charismatic character. The storylines were pretty hokum, but much of the dialogue was genuinely entertaining.
Where else would you grab a ventilation technician for information and the conversation would go:

"Something going on with the ventilation system?"
"Ow... ugh... hey, who are you?"
"Pretend I'm Harry Tuttle."
"Ugh... who?"
"I'm an ill-tempered and heavily-armed heating engineer who's asking questions about your ventilation system."
"I... I guess... I guess it's not working properly since the blackout."
"So, I guess it shouldn't take much to shut down that big fan I wanted to."
"I... I... I don't know. Why would you want to do that?"
"The adventure... the travel."
"Uh... okay."



Chaos Theory is obviously the pinnacle of the series (and the stealth genre in my mind) and a game any stealth fan should play through (Xbox or PC, not the PS2 or GC versions, though), but I enjoyed the first two just as well. I have Double Agent for the Xbox (which is different from the 360, PS3 and PC versions), but I've yet to play through it.

When they originally showed what Conviction was going to be like, with Sam's new bum look, moving through public crowds in daylight etc, I was interested in the story because of Grimsdottir's framing, but gameplaywise it didn't seem to offer me anything I loved about the Splinter Cell games. This new style is still very different, but displays a lot of the qualities I like, only with more energy and swiftness.

Rockgamer Jun 4, 2009 02:25 PM

I actually have all four Splinter Cell games (for PS2 :(, though I actually have the PS2 and PS3 version of Double Agent), I've just never got around to playing them. It's a series I've always known I'll like (I read Tom Clancy's books, not to mention that I love stealth games, so it's a perfect combination), but for some reason I've never started on them. I probably will sometime soon since I'm excited for Conviction now, but there's still no rush since there's no time frame for the PS3 version.

And I haven't been following Conviction from the beginning, but I think I heard it was originally running on the same engine that they eventually used for Assassin's Creed (which it definitely sounds like from your description). I guess that wouldn't have been too bad (since I'm a big AC fan), but what I've seen of Conviction from E3 this year seems much better.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 4, 2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwarky (Post 706738)
"Something going on with the ventilation system?"
"Ow... ugh... hey, who are you?"
"Pretend I'm Harry Tuttle."
"Ugh... who?"
"I'm an ill-tempered and heavily-armed heating engineer who's asking questions about your ventilation system."
"I... I guess... I guess it's not working properly since the blackout."
"So, I guess it shouldn't take much to shut down that big fan I wanted to."
"I... I... I don't know. Why would you want to do that?"
"The adventure... the travel."
"Uh... okay."

I have to play any game that makes a direct reference to Brazil.

That part in Conviction where you plan out your attack is sick.

Lukage Jun 4, 2009 03:29 PM

All the rage for Castlevania and no love for Patrick Stewart?

GET OUT.

map car man words telling me to do things Jun 5, 2009 12:34 AM

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A Boy and His Blob remake is looking beautiful.

Developer walkthrough.



EDIT:

FUCK YES MORE NATHAN FILLION IN HALO:ODST

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

Hantei Jun 5, 2009 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dagget (Post 706631)
AMG! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow looks really really good. I think I'm anticipating that as much as God of War 3. I am preased!

Wow, that looks awesome! Some celebrity casting too, nuts to the prospect of a Castlevania movie. Music sounds really good too, although it'd be shame if Michiru Yamane wasn't involved anymore (her soundtrack was really the only reason why I picked up Lament of Innocence), in this case I don't really mind the change.


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Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 705477)
I'm anxious to see what mystery game Capcom keeps giving cryptic clues about. There are TWO games that will be revealed at E3 that are not known yet. One will be a playable Demo, and the other will just be 'Announced'.

Specifically they mentioned the following:
  • It’s something fans have been waiting for.
  • It’s from a classic Capcom IP.
  • It’s not a remake.
  • It’s not Devil May Cry 5 either.
  • It is an action game.
  • Capcom Japan is developing the title.

BTW, did Capcom ever announce what these two mystery game's were? Heh, I'm hoping one of em is an Onimusha sequel, with a better working co-op system than what they gave us in Dawn of Dreams..

Snowknight Jun 5, 2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 706902)
BTW, did Capcom ever announce what these two mystery game's were? Heh, I'm hoping one of em is an Onimusha sequel, with a better working co-op system than what they gave us in Dawn of Dreams..

Mystery game one is Tatsunoko v. Capcom, and mystery game two is Resident Evil PSP, essentially announced from Capcom's blog and twitter feed, respectively.

surasshu Jun 5, 2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shin (Post 706643)
Christians sure do pick some weird shit to complain about.

Those crazy Christians! Oh wait.

nuttyturnip Jun 5, 2009 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by surasshu (Post 706948)
Those crazy Christians! Oh wait.

Why is your post from this thread quoted in the comments of the article you linked?

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jun 5, 2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 706954)
Why is your post from this thread quoted in the comments of the article you linked?

And why am I quoted with funny broken tags and shit. I'll have you know my image rights don't come cheap.

Dark Nation Jun 5, 2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowknight (Post 706938)
Mystery game one is Tatsunoko v. Capcom, and mystery game two is Resident Evil PSP, essentially announced from Capcom's blog and twitter feed, respectively.

Oh... well that's somewhat of a let-down. I wasn't really 'waiting' for a new Resident Evil title. Thanks for confirming it all the same though.

wvlfpvp Jun 5, 2009 05:09 PM

So, I saw the trailer for the new Metroid and I have to say: it makes SO MUCH SENSE for Samus to have melee attacks. I honestly don't know why she hasn't in a canon game yet.

Excited.

carolina17 Jun 7, 2009 02:50 PM

Resident Evil - The Darkside Chronicles
 
I look forward to playing Resident Evil - The Darkside Chronicles :D


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