South Park makes fun of Family Guy's poor writing...
 

Pretty much sums-up my opinion. A show with some pretty lame writing.

South Park makes fun of Family Guy's poor writing

Yeah, I know, that episode was great.

I can't believe that it was just on and they already put up that clip on the net.

That's not the full episode, is it?

Even when their making fun of family guy i found it funny. It's definetly better than south park

what was the episode about? Just based on that clip, it seemed Cartman was the 'Voice of Reason'.

They spoofed the show as well as the characters nicely. The nice censored block of Muhammed was a nice touch too.

That episode was hilarious, I love how they make referances to Issac Hayes where Cartman is offended about how the cartoon is very bad for making fun of religions even though he has been doing the very same for so long. I expect there will be a part 2 its not the first time they made a 2 parter

Wow a whole thread of responses and only scotty pics up on what it's about.
They weren't making fun of Family Guy at all. In jsut that clip they were taking a shot as Issac Hayes, who quit the show on the grounds of it mking fun of scientology despite Southpark mocking other faiths previously, and Cartman brings up one very good point.
"How'd you like it if someone made a show that made fun of Jews!"

No such show exists. Catholics, Muslims, Protestants, Mormons, Buddhists, Hindus etc. have shit thrown at them all the time. But when was the last time you saw a show that poked fun at Judahism and Jews? Never happening.

How about South Park? I hear that show makes fun of Jews all the time.

Hardly.

Cartman patronizes Kyle for being Jewish, but it doens't say anything of his beliefs or anything. Besides Cartman is constantly derided as epitomising everything arseholish and is often compared to Hitler.

What about the episode where kyle saw the passion and thought that the jews should apoligize for killing jesus. Or the episode where Moses appeared in that camp. And the episode where they needed to change the play becuase kyle was jewish. And all the remarks they say, "maybe cartman's right, maybe jews don't have rythm." and "You need to concentrate" "maybe he needs to go to concentration camp"
I'm really sure they make fun of jews in every episode in some way or another.
As for the episode, yeah it was funny. Can't wait to see next week.

Yeah, they make fun of Jews all the time. The farthest Family Guy ever went with a religious joke was making fun of indian's dot on their forehead.

Anyhoo, here's the full episode in question, it's pretty good!

PART 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmjVT...th%20Park%2010

PART 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cilDS...th%20Park%2010

PART 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vir3Z...th%20Park%2010

Wow, I can't believe you missed that joke.

It was obviously meant to mean South Park.

And it's less talking about Issac Hayes (that was last episode) than the Denmark cartoons.

And yes, this episode IS about making fun of Family Guy. Later Cartman rants about how everyone compares his humor to FG (aka, comparing SP to FG) and how it's wrong, since FG is random humor and SP is sharp satire with some fart jokes.

Jazzy is right in my opinion. That's what I got out of the episode. That being said, I cannot wait til part two. Hah

Yeah, that's what I like so much about South Park, they have jokes on Multiple levels. With that episode particuraly, you can clearly see who gets it.

And yeah, I wonder what's up with the FG writers in part 2. Are they frozen?

So when's Family Guy going to make fun of Southpark, I wonder.

In a year, probably. But by this time, people will have forgetten about the whole thing. But I wonder how they can make fun of South Park? It's a show with a solid social and political opinion and some pretty creative and funny jokes.

What is interesting is that SP is even mocking itself in this episode.
Certainly an interesting circle of reasoning, thats for sure.

So, South Park is "definately better than south park?" Because here "It" is referring to "South Park" which did the "making fun of family guy."

Can I have a candy bar?

By the way, I liked Cartman's point at the end when he explains how the TV's influence is greater than his own. And Kyle stands there thinking, "Wow, he's right."

Maybe it's just me, but I thought the primary point of the first part of this two parter was to take a shot at Muslims for going apeshit over those Muhammad drawings that were published in a Denmark newspaper.

To me, it seemed that the reason the points they were making about Family Guy's writing, as well as Isaac Haye's hypocrisy, were included was because they were easy to integrate into the episode. (Make Family Guy like the Denmark newspaper while making fun of Family Guy's writing at the same time. Talking about the Muslims' obsession with Muhammad being depicted while implying Isaac Haye's hypocrisy at the same time. Sheer brilliance!)

They shouldn't even bother. I've learned that it's just impossible to make fun of South Park. The Simpsons tried it in one episode, and they failed miserably, to the point that they should be embarrassed for even trying (some nonsense about OJ chopping heads off, to which Bart and Milhouse dance around chanting "Cartoon Violence!").

South Park is untouchable. They even parody themselves on more than one occasion. And as someone once told me, "How can you parody a parody of a parody?".

That probably makes no sense, but the point stands. And admittedly, this does make me observe something I quietly noticed about FG. They do tend to overdo it with the irrelavent clip bits. The worst was Stewie singing "Rocket Man" for 10 minutes. Stale. :/

South Park seems to have reached the point where everything it touches turns to gold, and I have to admit I really don't get it. It has some good writing, but it seems to fall back a lot of times on sex jokes and exploding kneecaps.

Ohhhh, man! They bashed one of america's favorite cult shows!
Edgy.

What more people need to realize is that the show isn't criticizing some airy and fleeting "them." It is all-inclusive, so there's no reason you should be saying "Geez, I'm glad I'm not one of those people" after you see the show. More often than not, that's what I hear come out of people's mouths. No one's willing to say that the caricatures that South park makes are supposed to be exaggerations of real people, and maybe question themselves. Instead they just write it off as the stupidity of the common man, you know, all of those people outside your front door, which just isn't true.

But they do often pick on "they". :D

SO, they make fun of people who bury their heads in the sand. Now, of course no one's going to admit that they do so. They stand there with a shovel and a 20 lb bag in their hand and say, "Well, glad I'm not one of those stupid fuckers with their head in the sand."

Yes, definitely. But somehow, I don't think they are doing this of their own choice. I think if Family Guy went back to every episode having a good theme, that would pretty much make it the new and better simpsons.

I wonder if they have to make it extra random in these new episodes to keep away from the Simpsons category.

Are you saying they hired bad writers so that it won't be good enough to be categorized as a good show?

South Park seems to have reached the point where everything it touches turns to gold, and I have to admit I really don't get it. It has some good writing, but it seems to fall back a lot of times on sex jokes and exploding kneecaps.

Ohhhh, man! They bashed one of america's favorite cult shows!
Edgy.

You're the type of person who just doesn't 'get' South Park. They never shyed away that they love doing Dick and Fart Jokes but underneath it all, it's criticizing everything wrong with the world, be it from the Lefties or the Righties.

Also, do you even know what 'cult' is?

No, I'm saying they possibly told them to not get episodes too based on Family Matters because that's the Simpsons territory.

I say this only because the old Family Guy was actually stable. It wasn't as random and the day after you watch it, you could atleast remember the plot and not just a few funny cutscenes.

It's just a theory, but they could just be focusing more on random humor more than actually trying to focus on a plot like the older episodes.

Trey and Matt have a lot of nerve bashing another show for its writing when South Park follows the same stale format with every single episode. They've improved somewhat with Kenny not dying every time, the epiphanies not suddenly dawning on Stan or Kyle, and the smoking episode when they made fun of their own schtick. That doesn't mean that it isn't any less old or tired.

Did you bother to read the rest of my post? I'm pretty sure that it talked about satire, and the fact that a lot of people decide satire is critical of everyone except themselves, which makes the act of satirization pointless.

Do you? When was the last time you talked to your mom about what happened on the last episode of Family Guy?

It's the TV equivalent of Marilyn Manson or Rocky Horror Picture Show. it may be popular, but only with a certain demographic, and only because it makes every effort not to look like your average sitcom.

Seriously, piss off if you're not going to try to comprehend what I'm saying.

I haven't really watched Family Guy that much since it came back on the air again. Out of the few episodes I did catch, however, they really were just a series of flashbacks strung together for 20 mins.

Family Guy has turned into just another show that entertains the ADHD generation.

So, basically, The Simpsons are the first to have family matters in them?

Double Post:

Wow. Family Guy is cult. I like you. I really do, you've enlighten me.

And sorry, I like South Park. I think I'll stay.

Of course not.

http://www.mortystv.com/showcards/family_matters.jpg

It's pretty much an Animated Show clash

Simpsons is a popular animated Show. Family Guy is a popular Animated Show.

You have to keep them apart. So one has to have a plot, one doesn't and just has random humor.

Again, it's just a theory I came up with.

If this was true, American Dad never would have been made.

American Dad isn't on the same popularity level as Family Guy and the Simpsons.

Still, if they were worried about this in the first place, they would have never made the show to begin with, just in case it did get as popular as those other two.

Yes this is true.

This is why I just came up with a theory. :doh:

Hey, there's quite a demographic that enjoy completely random humor to the extent that the people who write the show notice and pile it on nearly to a breaking point.

Whatever sells, right?

(EDIT: Aieee, spend ten minutes looking through the posts to have a crash of new ones to see when you post yourself!)

Hey what DATE does the second episode air? (Where Eric goes to LA to get the show shut down)

From what I remember, April 12th.

There won't be a second episode :tpg:

Matt & Trey do this stuff often. It's part of the gag, I believe.

Also, remember the famous episode which was dubbed "Lemmywinks' Return" episode ;D I thought it was hilarious that he wasn't even *in* it. The episode won't be continued. They'll be on a new topic in a different storyline next time.

Dude, did you see the "next time on... South Park!" clip near the end? Why wouldn't there be a sequel?

Anyway I really don't care, I love South Park all the same. :biggrin:

Just because they have a "next time" clip doesn't mean they'll do it >_> Like I said, it's part of the gag. The folks hoping for the next episode will tune in to find it is a different episode entirely. The whole "next time" clip was meant to be very corny.

What?

You mean to say, "they make fun of people who distance themselves from the Denmark cartoons and appease the upset Muslims out of fear of violent uprising."

The correct voice in this episode was the one guy in the town meeting who suggested that everyone make an offensive cartoon, if only to make use of freedom of speech.

Look beneath the surface. This is a show centered around current events.

The last episode dealing with Chef and the "Super Adventure Club" (a.k.a. Scientolgy) was very tongue-in-cheek and you had to know what was going on with the production of South Park (the previous episode against Scientology being pulled, Isaac Hayes leaving, etc...) to "get it."

Oh man, they sure showed him! "They got you good, you fucker!"

I find this rather immature. If you're really tuning into this as some sort of praise-worthy cartoon, pull your head out of your ass. Not only is the childish mockery in the show rediculous, the personal jab at a former cast member is just as bad.

Despite the fact I'd take Simpsons and Futurama (ESPECIALLY FUTURAMA) over Family Guy, I find the quality of that show to be tons better. I dislike it because of recycling the same idea: Flashbacks.

However, I'd lower them just as low as South Park if there was some sort of retaliation episode. Both shows are pretty lame, but doing this is stupid.

Why? Please explain your points.

I personally think it's more honest than most other shows on television right now.

I understand what's going on very well. It's kinda hard to miss when they start throwing "mohammed cartoons" into the dialogue. But who among the audience is going to actually stop for a second and think, "you know, maybe I should take a second look at what's going on here, and how this might affect me."

Judging from all the comments I see about the show, not very many. They would rather pretend that the whole world has these problems, rather than looking for the similarities in their own lives, which makes the goal of the show an exercise in people who like to talk just to hear themselves speak.

I know very well what they are saying. The way that they say it is preachy, and for me, it got old very quick, being that they're such hypocrites about the whole thing. Whether they parody themselves does not change the fact that they are, like Brady said, a very formulaic show.

And what I don't "get" is not the plot, or the meaning of the show, but why everyone has decided that it is LOL FUNY when the song and dance is the same old shit.

So what you're saying is you hate the fans who DON'T look beneath the fart jokes and obvious jabs?

Because I find intelligent satire in it. Does that still mean it's a crappy show?

You've repeatedly said that it's hypocritical, but you haven't backed it up with an example.

Yeah, I was thinking that too. It's not that hard to believe, especially since the episode that aired before that (The Return of Chef) had a fake 'previously on South Park' at the beginning.

Parker and Stone are oily as fucking snakes about the whole business, and most people seem to be latching onto their rush to judgment, whatever that judgment might be. Doesn't it make you a bit wary when all of a sudden people are saying the heads should roll, and citing a caricature as an example of why it should be done?

I said it once, yeah.
Look at the most recent episode. For a minute I saw some genuine moderation int heir approach, because instead of the solitary Voice Of Reason that no one listens to, they had two conflicting and perfectly reasonable points of view between Cartman and the guy who spoke up in the town hall. I knew they had to be playing an angle, because it was Cartman saying it.

Sure enough, what do they do? Admit that the issue isn't as easy as it first appears? Hell no. One opinion gets thrown out the window because it's Cartman saying it, and he is, in fact, playing an angle. The other one wins by default.

They're hypocrites because they tend towards this judgmental oversimplification, this kind of ivory tower bullshit, when every single episode is about the people in the town who are too arrogant and stupid to take a step back and look at themselves for a second.

Well, I don't know how that makes them hypocrites.

I think it makes their show have a certain message or opinion they want to express. They have an agenda each episode. They're not obligated to show the other side's rebuttal, this isn't some debate show.

I agree that people just citing South Park as their own basis of opinion is narrow-minded. I might agree with Matt and Trey most of the time, but sometimes they're way off mark (I didn't find the Mel Gibson "Passion of the Jew" episode truthful at all).

Ultimately, it's just like fans of any satirical show (like the Daily Show). If they're getting their news and opinions FROM the show, they're just sheep. However, if you're going into the show knowing the issue beforehand and either defending or reinforcing your beliefs through the episode, South Park is an excellent show.

But don't you agree with the fact that the movie was made to cash in on people's feelings towards the demise of Christ? I mean, why make a movie on the death of an important figure, like Christ, instead of trying to make one to show is message to the world?

I know the whole 'Gibson going Ape Shit' thing was funny but not truthful, but the main message of the episode was spot on. Don't you think?

Well, I guess this thread's more of a South Park debate thread now (maybe move to Political Palace?), but I might as well respond.
The whole point is it's called "The Passion of the Christ."

Of course Mel Gibson wanted to make the movie about that one moment, as it means so much to the Christian faith. I don't see why you have to include all of Jesus' teachings in this particular movie. Haven't there already been enough movies/books/church sermons/broadway musicals about that?

And "cashing in" doesn't seem right, I mean, Gibson only made so much money due to controversy and word of mouth. And due to it being a good movie (in my opinion).

Yeah. Still haven't seen it though. One of my friends is one tough SOB who doesn't belive at all in Christ and I saw him come out of the theater, crying like a baby.

Me too, I don't really believe in all that non-sense, but I stayed away from it because it seemed like it was the 'IT' thing at the time. I might finally watch it now.

But I sure hope they make a SOUTH PARK episode out of those 9/11 movies. If that ain't cashing in on the American's feelings, I don't know what it is. :edgartpg:

Tonight's Family Guy felt a little less than stellar, since it inhibited the very problem I addressed earlier. I just don't find the singing sketches too funny, and Seth Mcfarlane has a perverse need to toss in as many as he can (just get your ass to the Idol already). The problem is these bits lose meaning to anyone who isn't familiar with the song or the irony surrounding it (like myself).

Alan Jackson (country singer) did a 9/11 song, and South Park lambasted him for leeching off peoples' emotions. The Ladder to Heaven episode =p I disagree with their viewpoint there, since Alan Jackson is a rather nice fellow. He was moreso making a tribute song, and several were made in the Country genre. Still, I got a nice laugh out of the episode.


"o/` Where were you when they built that ladder to heaven?... Uhm... Er... Nine-Eleveeeeen."
"*sobbing*"

Crap! I forgot! LOL

But the thing that makes me nervous with these sorts of things is that when they do these 'tributes' for these horrible events, they cash in thousands upon thousands, say millions, of dollars and instead, they could give the profits away to the families.

Yes that is true. Even though it's a show considered for adults, kids make up much of the ratings. The kids don't know those old songs and etc. so it pretty much alienates them on some episodes.

The simpsons does it too, but not as much.

It looks like there WILL be a second episode to this Family Guy saga according to the very reliable www.mrtwig.net.

But when they dedicate an entire episode to said references, the other demographs miss out.

I dunno~

The TV trailers just showed clips from the first-part episode. This feels like the Lemmywinks prank =p

About tonight's episode:

I'm eagerly waiting for a torrent for episode 1004 to become avaible on the internet, I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow:(

whats up with www.spcomplete.com, is it down or are they updating it to put up info on cartoon wars 2 or what?

I saw that episode. That scene was so damn funny.:lolsign: :lolsign: :lolsign:

Cool, that is!

omfg u win sykik.

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