Cartoon Network is no more?
 

OMG, I just found this & was shocked after I reading it.

What next, the channel is called "The Network"?

I mean... more little kids watch "Adult Swim" shows then the ones on Cartoon Network, wouldn't you agree? Are there any good Cartoons left, (except for Canadian ones) at all. IS CGI the new Cartoon animation of the century? Enough of this Canadian made stuff, I wish to see some American made cartoons for crying out loud. I miss the good times of CN and many others.

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Cartoon Network started being crap when they moved Toonami to Saturdays only, replaced it on the weekdays with Miguzi, moved their good shows to Boomerang (and that station is also getting some crap), and started playing live-action movies like Spider-Man on their network. Don't get me wrong, I think Spider-Man is an awesome movie but when I saw stuff like that scheduled I continuously asked "What the hell is that doing on CARTOON Network?"

Unfortunately we've gotta face facts: times change and so do tv stations.

Whats going on is that CN is trying to do content for both sides, which is why almost all of the channel's original people & animators have left is because of that. I'm not ageist "Adult Swim", but some the classic shows like "The Popeye Show" use to air on midnights and though out until the morning school starts. "Adult Swim" should by now have it own channel, like I hoping for Toonami as well. The only shows I watch are Family Guy, King of the Hill, Robot Chicken, Ghost in the Shell, Lupin the 3rd, Clerks, Tim & Eric, & The Venture Bros. I thought of course that "Adult Swim" lasts until their line-up of shows were done by no later then 2 or 3AM, right. So that the old-school shows would air. I miss the line-up shows that aired on Saturday Nights that started from 6PM - 2AM, which had Pokemon "old school" ,DBZ, *Hack/Signs, and many others that were awesome.

Once CN stopped showing cool shit like Dexter, Powerpuff, Samurai Jack and so on, I pretty much started solely watching Adult Swim when it was on. Which, as someone who has been subjected to those hours of crap, seeing live action isn't that unusual. Hopefully the stuff CN puts on during the day and early evenings will be funnier.

Wat?

Well, actually, they lost all their good shows years ago. I remember I never had cartoon network when I was a kid but my friends had it when they were still showing all the good classic cartoons. Oh well, it was going down the crapper anyway. Like Nickelodeon did years before. AH! Real Monsters, Pete and Pete...fond childhood memories down the crapper.

all they now are just memories.

My first reaction is to say "stop crying you child-nerd babies" but then I think of That's Raven and any of the other abysmal tween shows on Disney with hauntingly beautiful golden-childs and ugh ugh ugh, please no.

all they show now is some shitty cartoons drawn in some weird anime style anyway.
god i miss all those old great cartoons, i dont even remember the names. Old dexter and cow and chicken etc

RIP

edit: Cant forget I am Weasel, that shit is the bomb!!!! Especially after some weed

Dude, I love to enjoy watching Dexter's Lab and Johnny Bravo.

I think back years ago during the summer between semesters at college when I would watch the Cartoon Network late at night. I'd sit back and watch Batman, Gargoyles, and a few others. Prior to this, and before my main college years, I'd also watch the classics like Rescue Rangers, Darkwing Duck, etc.

Honestly, the concept was awesome. A channel that had nothing but cartoons. but now they have gotten rid of the very concept that they initially named and defined themselves over.

Given I haven;t been in the States for quite a while, and before then finished college, I haven't REALLY watched CN for five years. Maybe an odd show here or there like I think I saw Batman Beyond on it once. However, I haven't watched it for so long that it doesn;t chagne my viewing habits (which are basically nothing at this point).

Still though, let's be hoenst. If they are now going to the extreme that they will show non-cartoons on a regular basis, then the Cartoon Network is nothing more but a name. They are no different from the Nickelodon, and various other channels. And people anyone gets itno the 'well, they still show some cartoons', so what. It's the CARTOON network. Just like if a channel is called the SPORTS channel you don't get Ghostbusters or whatnot on it, or any number of those channels which play a specific music genre 24/7.

As some people have been saying, this has been going on for a while, so saying RIP CN now is a bit late. However, while late, it's still accurate in that the CN in definition is no more.

Does Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast count as live-action?

About 20% of it does, but it's still primarily animation.

Now if they did more in the vein of SGC2C, that would be totally acceptable.

But if we start seeing Hannah Montana and iCarly clones, then the ship has completely sailed on Cartoon Network.

True Animation is no more and that's the truth

With Cartoon Network unable to get some of the best animated series available from Viacom, it makes sense that they'd go this route. Their own animation gristmill probably can't keep up with the demand for new content.

It's hard for me to get upset about it since all I watch on the network is the Adult Swim part anyway. (okay, maybe Flapjack now and again)

I saw the commercial/trailer for The Othersiders a few days ago, and that ship has sailed. It would be hard to find worse television. I didn't realize they were doing so many other live-action things, but it doesn't surprise me much since Adult Swim has been going that way for awhile by giving Tim & Eric more and more airtime. Plus the movies CN shows now and then that someone already mentioned. I mean, Jurassic Park 3? Really?

Chowder and Flapjack gave me some hope that Cartoon Network would start going in the right direction again, but I guess that was just a last gasp of breath.

When was the last time a good cartoon came on before all this happen?

Tim & Eric kind of earned their right to live action though with Tom Goes to the Mayor. And although their shows are intentionally awful there is a certain kind of humor if you can build the tolerance. Adult Swim also has some weird British shows now as well. I do love how they like to hate on the anime community. Say what you will with their programming, scheduling, and what not, Adult Swim has been pretty consistent since the very beginning in delivering quality in varying ways and they even make good with the rotten eggs they get. They still show the Oblongs for a reason.

As long as Cartoon Network has a few gold eggs like Flapjack and Chowder (and eventually Adventure Time) I don't really care what they do with the rest of their time slots. The channel is primarily for children and tweens anyway. At least the timeslot right after school is.

Eh, it was good while it lasted. The wonder years are over.

I'm sure quality shows like 6teen and Total Drama Island will take the reigns and bring it to a new prosperous age of Cartoon Network.

Ya, the only thing is that these show are from Canada, and yet have better animation.

You must want me to hit you. Is that what you want, Acer? To be struck?

Bravo used to be about film and all that, now we get the Millionaire Matchmaker, Real Housewives, and Top Chef. Things change and people eat it up, even garbage, and if there's one demographic to do this to it's the kid/early-teen age-group. It's sad, but they don't know better.

I dare you to watch any Disney or Nickelodeon sitcom (laugh-track comes standard) for the full duration and I wonder if your stomach can handle the hackneyed lines, poor delivery, and stereotypes dug out from the coffers of some Nazi film-maker of yore.

Ya, besides "Ned's Declassified", I never watch any of the other show on there. The Kids/sitcom aren't what they use to be. Most of them are about political humor & saving the rainforest, O my. I thought there was law that didn't have kid shows not to be used for any of the above, and to just keep them funny & entertaining, I'm right?

Ahahaha. I know the show isn't very good, Jess. But I'm saying that at least they produced something animated before they went live action. Besides their segments are only 15 minutes long.

Tim and Eric Awesome Show, Great Job! is hands down the most well-written and carefully conceived program on Adult Swim after The Venture Brothers. Those guys are goddam comedic geniuses. Way ahead of the comedy learning curve. Shit like that's going to be all over the place in ten years.

Then I weep for the future and all who have to live in it. The average infomercial is more entertaining than the crap they put out.

You do realize that their humor pretty well assumes that the average infomercial is actually very entertaining? That doesn't really serve as an insult in this case.

It's really a humor you have to have a taste for. Some people just find them infuriating. Too bad.

The problem with Tim & Eric isn't that they are bad comedy, they are bad performers. Bad bad bad bad bad. Whenever they do a skit there's far too much self-awareness.

Again, that's kind of the point. None of their material would work if they hired talented comedians to perform it.

Yeah but they've had actors do sketches that were pretty good and Tim & Eric weren't in those.

What I'm getting at it that I don't think it's a matter of self-awareness. Everyone who appears on that show knows it's a comedy program. Everyone on that show is mugging shamelessly.

I guess I'm not being specific enough. There is too much self-awareness of Tim & Eric. As in, hey it's us Tim & Eric doing a Tim & Eric skit for Tim & Eric's Awesome Show. Great Job! I'm Tim and I'm Eric and we're so fucking crazy!

I'll say it again, that's completely intentional. It's the entire premise, from the very first episode where they most of their eleven minutes introducing themselves in front of shitty green-screening. It's a parody of sketch comedy. That's the point.

They have a talent for finding something and making it simultaneously creepy and funny, which is why I can't stop watching. Knkwzrd's right, though. They do strike me as a kind of latter-day Monty Python.

And I like Tom Goes to the Mayor, so there

Yeah ok, that doesn't say anything about why I shouldn't dislike Tim & Eric for their self-awareness. This is a personal thing, I just don't like it, and a lot of times I also feel like there's an uncomfortable sense of exploitation rather than celebration when they have actual crazy people on the show, as if their genius is just another vehicle for Tim & Eric to become the avant-vanguarde of comedy.

I liked Tom Goes to the Mayor, I like Tim & Eric sans Tim & Eric.

Those guys couldn't clean the toilets of the Monty Python cast.

Your laserlike focus is as good as ever, LeHah, but my point was that they are counterculture, that they experiment, and that they look to have popularity in the future because of it.

They're as counterculture as anything you can find on SomethingAwful or 4Chan "Inspirational Poster" knockoffs. They're humorous for the ill-equipt and self-assured idiot; a spit and a shake from Family Guy, the only difference being Family Guy references something directly for its cut-away joke punchline, while Tim & Eric simply take "internet absurd" premise alone.

You're right on the experimenting part, but I think you're missing the fact that Python's sketches, while off the wall and experimental, were at least superficially "normal" enough to entertain people less willing to dig deeply into the comedy.

Tim and Eric put up this incredibly large wall of obfuscation between the viewer and the comedy. If you can see through it, you find it hilarious, but it's not nearly as easily digested as Python is.

Full disclosure: I do find Tim and Eric's first season funny, but their second season saw them get WAY too self aware of their own success and they started veering into Tom Goes to the Mayor levels of "so bad it's too bad to be so bad it's funny" bullshit.

But it's not internet absurd. The difference being that they don't reference anything. It's all original, but it cuts close in terms of something you might actually see on TV, and then tosses PCP into the mix. The only thing they could be compared to is late night cable access, and even then, it's only the lo-fi part and bad acting.

Forget I said Python. I'm not drawing parallels about the type of comedy, I'm talking about the cultural impact.

Tim and Eric has all the cultural impact of 2 girls 1 cup. Sure it's funny, and people's reactions to it are funnier, but everyone forgot about it a couple months after it came out.

Which is the difference between a one-hit-wonder meme and a show that has its own momentum. I don't think Tim & Eric is "Hey did you see X that happened on the show the other night?" It's more "You have to see this show for yourself, just to know what the hell I'm talking about."

But thats the thing. I *have* seen it all before - its that dumb "internet irreverence humor" that common folk find so funny. Its for the crowd who misuse the word "irony", really.

Man, all I know about Cartoon Network right now is that Squidbillies is the best thing on Adult Swim with Superjail coming in a close second.

Yes, it's low-brow, but I don't think an on-camera mental breakdown being used as comedy is the same thing you're thinking of.

Yes it is. Its this rampant cynic crap for idiots, assholes and people who were beat up by jocks in high school. Its catered to people who think they're smarter than they actually are and who have no understanding that what they're watching *isn't* a joke, since theres no damn punchline. At best its an ancedote, but even then that certainly doesn't define the sweeping majority of this shit. Its cute ideas done with a pinch of creativity and mixed with a generous helping of internet perspective.

Heres what it boils down to - if you like this kind of crap, I'll never find another good thing to say about you ever again. Its awful, stupid shit for awful, stupid people.

Correct. Squidbillies just gets better and better, too.

See that's funny because a lot of people hate Squidbillies and could say the same thing you all are saying about Tim & Eric. I only saw Superjail the other day and holy shit it's like they took Yellow Submarine and then just went with a premise and some characters and wooooo fun times ahoy. =)

You'd have to be some kinda damn Yankee sumbitch not ta like Squidbillies.

So why don't you like it?

I think you need to learn to pick your battles better if Tim & Eric is your Waterloo.

EXACTLY. THAT'S WHY IT'S SO AWESOME.

But brainfuck does not necessarily equal funny.

If a cartoon cannot be funny, it has failed its primary objective.