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The Wise Vivi Apr 7, 2009 07:42 PM

Hell's Kitchen
 
Hey,

Anybody watch Hell's Kitchen? I have watched a few episodes here and there, but after watching one of Ramsey's "Kitchen Nightmares", I thought I would like to actually watch a whole season of Hell's Kitchen and what better way than to start at Season 1?

Anyway, I just wanted to see what you thought of the show if you watched it, what is the best season, etc.

I enjoy it quite a bit, even though sometimes Ramsey goes a bit overboard. ;)

Sakabadger Apr 7, 2009 07:55 PM

I keep up with the current season (5) whenever new episodes get uploaded to Hulu (typically late Thursday/Friday). I watched a bit of season 4, but mostly skipped around instead of watching entire episodes.

Really, the only reason to watch this show is to see Ramsey blow up at the incompetent chefs. There's not really much interesting cooking going on to speak of, and I'm fairly sure the producers select candidates based on their potential for being huge annoying douches on camera. I guess the only reason I keep up with the current season is to see if the person I want to get owned gets canned by Ramsey.

In any case, pretty standard entertainment for this sort of thing. I've also watched a couple episodes of Kitchen Nightmares and I think that has a lot more merit. Same amount of Ramsey wringing out incompetent people, but with more meaning. I wonder when the third season will hit?

Sousuke Apr 7, 2009 08:10 PM

I love Gordon Ramsay, so naturally I watch this show here and there. Actually, I've pretty much kept up with the 4th and 5th [current] seasons, but didn't really watch before then. Between this and Kitchen Nightmares, there's enough Chef Ramsey explosions to go around. :tpg:

kupomog Apr 7, 2009 08:34 PM

Hell's Kitchen is probably one of the few shows I make a point to catch, and I have watched it since the beginning. It's always entertaining to hear Ramsay call someone a stupid fucking donut donkey. But yeah there isn't actually a whole of lot amazing cooking going on, there's probably 2 or 3 chefs on any given season that seem really competent..the rest flounder and fuck up a lot. Like that one girl on this current season, Lacey..she was a waste of time and a spot on the show, but good TV.

I like Kitchen Nightmares as well, but I prefer the UK version mainly because it seems to be more about the struggle/process with Ramsay to bring the restaurant up to standards and help the cooks rather than showing people yelling at each other with lots of drama in the US version. I watch HK for the drama.

I really liked seasons 3 and 4. Had the most "interesting" people to me, most entertaining drama. s3 had that Asian guy who cried a lot, and s4 had that loudmouthed bitch Jen+cute little toilet brush Louross. I was going to say season 2 until i realized I don't remember shit from it other than that one female competitor that was good friends with the winner died.

The Wise Vivi Apr 7, 2009 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kupomog (Post 695426)

I like Kitchen Nightmares as well, but I prefer the UK version mainly because it seems to be more about the struggle/process with Ramsay to bring the restaurant up to standards and help the cooks rather than showing people yelling at each other with lots of drama in the US version. I watch HK for the drama.

I watched the UK version as well. I haven't seen the US one.

Rockgamer Apr 7, 2009 09:39 PM

I've been watching since late in the third season, and I have to say it's definitely worth watching more for the hilarity than any other aspect (this is not high quality television by any standard, but it's certainly better than most of the crap found on VH1 and the like these days). As for Kitchen Nightmares, I've seen both the US and the UK version, but I just can't really get into it.

Spoiler:
So anyone have any picks for who they want to win/think will win for this season? Out of all the people left I'm pulling for Giovanni to win, but I think Danny might be the one to end up winning this whole thing (I hope he doesn't though, as he just rubs me the wrong way for some reason, that reason being that he's a prick).

The Wise Vivi Apr 7, 2009 09:47 PM

Don't spoil it Rock! I have to get through the seasons first... Please spoil cover if you can. :D

Should be exciting nonetheless.

Rockgamer Apr 7, 2009 09:55 PM

I didn't think that would be considered a spoiler since most people said they were watching the current season, but I guess I'll spoiler it for you.

The Wise Vivi Apr 7, 2009 09:58 PM

Wicked, thanks. :D I will try and get through the rest of the seasons ASAP and then we don't have to worry about that.

Sakabadger Apr 7, 2009 10:32 PM

Season 5:
I'm rooting for one of the guys to win. Danny seems like he's pretty solid and thus a likely choice, but I just adore Robert. Guy is hilarious, and when he's not screwing up he's a good chef. Gio just seems like kind of a dick, and although Ben has good intentions he just doesn't seem like he can keep up.

On the womens' side... screw 'em. I'm really hoping Andrea gets sent home next week as I'm getting pretty tired of her attitude and toothless smile.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Apr 7, 2009 10:41 PM

Spoiler:
At this point, my money's on Danny. Giovanni is a solid chef but he lacks the fiery personality that Ramsay seems to favor in his winners. Danny is cocky, but also confident. Historically, Ramsay really likes that in his chefs. Robert is a bit of a doofus and he comes completely unwound when he makes a mistake. That will eventually be his ouster.

I thought LA stood more of a chance than she wound up receiving. She really never had an awful night, nothing that could be completely blamed on her. She was definitely competent. I figured she'd get to the last four, then go. But this just supports the idea that Ramsay strongly dislikes passivity. LA never took charge of anything and that cost her.

I'm just glad that egotist Lacey is done.

Grundlefield Earth Apr 8, 2009 01:59 AM

I wouldn't put Paula out of the running to win.

Spoiler:
And yes LA didn't seem to deserve to go home so soon

kupomog Apr 8, 2009 09:09 PM

Spoiler:
Yea I was bit sad when L.A. got booted, don't think she should've gone, got screwed over by her own teammates.. Probably had the least fuck ups other than Paula. And I like Paula because she's kind of under the rader right now and seems fairly consistent with not screwing up, but I am definitely pulling for Giovanni to win. I tend to go for the guys who don't really carry themselves like the best thing ever, Danny is more of an asshole to me in that respect along with Ben. And I absolutely love Robert but I dunno, I don't see Ramsay picking him in the end. If it came down to Gio and Robert, it would be great though.

The Wise Vivi Apr 8, 2009 10:06 PM

Man, I am on the last couple episodes of season 1... Man, episode 7 and 8 were awesome! Down to the final three! I have no clue who is going to win this one! On to Season 2 this weekend!

Sakabadger Apr 12, 2009 01:43 AM

Spoiler:
Andrea is so, so lucky. If Jean-Philippe hadn't been there to run after her, console her and actually provide her the written order, she would've never even managed to get back into the kitchen. Gio was a wreck, but it's really hard to say which one was really worse.

Next week looks like it'll have some nice drama -- wonder what the ambulance is for?

Sakabadger Apr 18, 2009 05:44 AM

Spoiler:
Andrea is SO LUCKY. I have to wonder if her dish was even the best. Ramsay probably knew she would choke and arranged the results so that she would be spared from getting booted out after service. After all, it's pretty rare for him to take anyone out after someone has previously excused themselves due to injury.

Anyway, hoping for a Danny and Paula final. Anything else (especially Andrea) would be an insult.

Good show, Rob ;_;

Bigblah Apr 18, 2009 08:11 AM

Spoiler:
I didn't like Rob. He was kinda creepy, even moreso considering he's engaged or something.

The Wise Vivi Apr 18, 2009 08:31 AM

Well, season 2 was a bit of a let down. Definitely not as good as season one. Getting Season 3 right now! Should be able to catch up in the next week or so and then I can read all the spoilers! Yay!

kupomog Apr 20, 2009 08:36 PM

So
Spoiler:
Robert had to leave due to a health condition, huh? :(


Absolutely sucks. Would've loved for that guy to stick around. Only got to catch the ep recently. Now left is two guys full of themselves, one consistent girl, and one fucking lucky ass wreck who really should've gotten the boot by now. Damn. And of the two guys, one fucked up a bit and was at big risk for going home... I'm pulling for the consistent girl at this point, and I guess the guy who didn't screw up for runner-up since he is actually pretty good..

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Apr 22, 2009 12:10 PM

I didn't know Ramsey still did Hell's Kitchen in America. Over here he was replaced by Marco Pierre White, who is a fucking legend. Sadly, they focus more on the celebrities than the cooking but it's still pretty entertaining.

They recently showed a load of the American Kitchen Nightmares over here and it's a quite different programme to the UK version. As has been said, the US version is more about people shouting at each other, then one night of service and the end. In the UK version it's more about incompetent people than angry ones and Gordon revisits the restaurant a month or so later as part of the show so you can see if they actually stayed successful. One thing the US version is better for is how hilariously arrogant some of the restaurant owners are, presuming they know their (Failing) business better than the guy with Michelin stars and a string of very successful business. I don't think Americans are quite as used to being sworn at either. Also, there are like twice as many obvious advert break spots in the US version and NTSC programmes are ugly as sin.

But yeah, Ramsey's a legend, it's between him and Heston Blumenthal as to who my favourite chef-turned-tv-personality is and I'd love to eat either of their food.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Apr 22, 2009 06:34 PM

I prefer the European one by a pretty fair margin as far as Kitchen Nightmares goes. Like you said, the American one is basically all about Ramsay yelling at ridiculously arrogant owners and them getting all pissed off. It's good for a laugh now and then, but I'd rather they didn't focus as heavily on the artificial drama.

Sakabadger Apr 25, 2009 05:52 AM

The American version of Kitchen Nightmares does have Ramsay return to some restaurants to see if they've stayed successful, though I think it only happened once. Maybe most of the restaurants tanked, I dunno. Either way, it was great to see the ones that were successful. Ramsay's a tyrant in the kitchen but so charming outside of it, and it's nice to see him be happy for those who've managed to turn things around.

Hell's Kitchen:

Spoiler:
Andrea. Please go home next week. If the final doesn't end up being Paula and Danny, I'm gonna rage.

kupomog Apr 25, 2009 04:53 PM

Spoiler:
yeah what the fuck already. She's living in the Matrix with all the bullets she's been dodging lately, I hate that "wiping the slate clean" crap because even though I don't care for Ben a whole lot, he shouldn't have gone home. I hate that she has another chance and even though I'm completely confident in Paula and Danny, I hope neither of them have an off night and give her the chance to steal it from them.

Sakabadger May 2, 2009 06:27 AM

Spoiler:
Thank GOD.

Paula and Danny, you are the best final that could have happened. Finale looks to be awesome, especially now that they've thrown Lacey back into the mix. That's certain to generate some drama right there.

I think I'm rooting for Paula to win the competition. Danny's good, but it doesn't seem like he's as solid as Paula.

Rockgamer May 2, 2009 01:56 PM

Spoiler:
Yeah, Danny really kind of broke down in the last episode, and though he still wasn't as bad as Andrea, you could tell Paula is the overall best candidate. As I think Andrea mentioned, some of that comes from inexperience due to his age, and I still think he really needs to turn down the cockiness a bit. They're both the best of the bunch though, so I won't mind either of them winning, but I think it should be Paula.

kupomog May 2, 2009 09:32 PM

Spoiler:
Yeah I'm so happy with the final 2 right now. I'd be happy if either of them won but I am pulling for Paula. It's gonna suck for whoever gets stuck with Lacey's stupid ass...

Sakabadger May 9, 2009 09:17 AM

Spoiler:
Not much to say, really, except that I can't wait for the finale next week. Both Danny and Paula have some real characters on their teams, and I hope they can manage to get things working smoothly. It'd be a real shame if either of them lost due to someone (like Lacey) severely screwing it up their service.

kupomog May 9, 2009 08:37 PM

Spoiler:
Yeah I was about to say, it sucks that someone gets stuck with her, and it sucks even more that Paula got her because I want Paula to win. Second to the last ep is always a bore otherwise.

Rockgamer May 9, 2009 11:33 PM

Spoiler:
I really wish they would have just shown the last two episodes back-to-back (I could have sworn they did that on a previous season), because yeah, this was a pretty uneventful episode. Even the whole picking their team thing wasn't that dramatic, because aside from seeing who got Lacey you could tell who they were gonna pick.

But yeah, next week should be awesome, and I can't wait to see who wins it. I have to admit, the way they reveal the winner (having them both go to a door and see which one opens) is probably the most exciting way to do it out of any reality show I watch.

Sakabadger May 10, 2009 09:03 PM

The way they reveal the winner is pretty dang harsh, now that I think about it. A door in front of you that you can never open, while the person next to you passes through to their dreams? That's probably stings more than any normal announcement ever could.

Sakabadger May 15, 2009 07:04 PM

Season 5 over!

Spoiler:
Congratulations to Danny! Was nice to finally see him get emotional at the very end. It must've been really close between him and Paula, but if I had to hazard a guess I think Paula got screwed by her team. LA was flawless, but Angela and Lacey really brought her down. I also think her restaurant area looked much better, but in the end I suppose it comes down to the food.

So, in terms of winners the last 5 seasons it's been male, female, male, female, and now male again. Female winner for season 6?

The Wise Vivi May 15, 2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sakabadger (Post 701198)
The way they reveal the winner is pretty dang harsh, now that I think about it. A door in front of you that you can never open, while the person next to you passes through to their dreams? That's probably stings more than any normal announcement ever could.

I agree, it is pretty rough.... :(

Rockgamer May 15, 2009 07:51 PM

Spoiler:
Pretty good finale overall, though I have to admit I was a bit disappointed since I was still rooting for Paula. Danny certainly is qualified and deserved to win, but something about him still rubs me the wrong way. I'm happy for him though, and wish him success in the future.

It was nice to see all the previous winners on the show for the finale. On most reality shows once someone wins they're generally forgotten about by the time the next season starts, but this show seems to embrace all the past winners and bring them back as much as they can.

Finally, I'm pretty surprised that the next season is premiering so soon after this one ended, late July from what I read. I know seasons 6 and 7 have already been confirmed, but I hope having these seasons air so close together doesn't burn people out on the series (not to mention that airing in the summer usually yields lower ratings, though previous season have aired in the summer so I guess that shouldn't be too much of a problem).

kupomog May 15, 2009 08:10 PM

Auuugh...yeah disappointed, but still happy nonetheless because those are the best finalists they ever had, to me. Winning "confessional" was a bit moving, especially about the mom.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon May 15, 2009 08:21 PM

Spoiler:
Personally, I'm glad Danny won. I predicted his victory eight weeks ago and enjoy being correct. He seemed more assertive and more determined than Paula, like he had an ounce more passion. I think Ramsay saw that zeal in Danny.

As a sidenote, as they showed clips from past arguments and discussions, why did every single contestant appear to be a smoker? Was that a prerequisite? "We have one contestant who smokes, so they all might as well smoke so there are no conflicts."? Seeing something like that would make me not want to apply.

Rockgamer Jul 21, 2009 11:13 AM

Thought I'd give the thread a little bump since the new season starts tonight with a two-hour premiere. Haven't really seen or heard much about the new season, but I found this little tidbit to be interesting (I guess it could be considered a spoiler (I personally don't think so), so I tagged it just in case):

Spoiler:
Heather, the season 2 winner, will be the new sous chef for the women's team this season.


I still think it's a bit too soon after the last season ended to be starting another one, but this has been a pretty lackluster Summer as far as TV goes so it can only help.

Sakabadger Jul 24, 2009 09:01 PM

This new season is great. It's like they gave up trying to find good chefs with a strong personality and just settled for getting as many nutjobs and assholes as possible. The drama potential this season is off the charts! Even JP is starting to yell. It should make for some interesting viewing, especially since...

Spoiler:
ROBERRRRRRRRRRRRRT. What a nice surprise! I hope he manages to stick around til the end again since he's such a fun guy.


I think I like Jim the best since he's casual and has a sense of humor. Well, should be fun to see how this season turns out.

Grundlefield Earth Jul 25, 2009 02:27 AM

Too bad it seems like Gordon threw that guy out for Robert too easily. It seemed to be planned and it seemed like they hired that guy for the purpose of getting tossed.

Rockgamer Jul 25, 2009 07:36 AM

Spoiler:
It's not that I don't think Robert deserves another chance, but why bring him back over someone like Ji? She was doing extraordinarily well before she twisted her ankle and had to leave, and I personally think the game would have been drastically different had she been able to stay. Don't get me wrong, Robert did well in his own right, but the writing was already on the wall that he was gonna leave anyway (the only person there worse than him was Andrea in my opinion, and there's definitely no way he could have competed against Danny or Paula), regardless of having to leave for medical reasons. Ji had to leave so early that bringing her back would have almost been like bringing in someone new anyway.

And even more so, why throw someone off the Blue Team (like BZ said, I really think he was just looking for someone to throw out to bring Robert back in) to just end up putting Robert on the Red Team? I mean, the Blue Team did win the dinner service that night, so why was their reward to be a person down and lose the experience someone like Robert would bring? That really made no sense to me.


And yeah, not that anyone was watching this show for great cooking anyway, but they definitely aren't even trying to get anyone with modicum of sanity this season. Everyone ranges from slightly disturbed to fucking insane, so at the least the drama factor will be higher than its ever been this season.

Sakabadger Jul 29, 2009 08:02 PM

Oh, Joseph. Forever a legend of Hell's Kitchen.

Spoiler:
The injuries this season are really flying, huh. I can't wait until that one grating/slicing incident gets over with, because when I saw it on the previews it made me wince hard.

I don't think Robert's going to last, at the rate he's going at. A shame, really.

Would've been interesting to see Ji again, but she left really early into the season. She may have done well later on, but Robert did prove himself as a competitor and (I guess) a fan-favorite. Nobody really wanted him to have to take himself out of the game, and I guess that's why he's back.

Zip Jul 31, 2009 07:18 PM

Jospeph watches too much BET lol

This shit has to be scripted, people leaving and then teams getting balanced by another one blabla. Oh well, high and entertained.

The Wise Vivi Aug 15, 2009 10:10 PM

Ok, I got GREAT news! Just finished season 4, going onto Season 5. Should be caught up by the end of next week. :D

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Aug 15, 2009 10:31 PM

Spoiler:


The women just can't do anything right, can they? They were putting all the blame on Tenille and Lovely, but now that Lovely is gone and Tenille is surprisingly getting stronger, the rest of them are coming apart. Amanda, who began strong, is coming unraveled. Suzanne has some leadership issues. Tek was one of my early favorites; I never expected her to win but I thought she'd last longer than this. She was completely overwhelmed. Right now, the women's only grace is Ariel who has yet to screw up a service completely on her own. I'm mostly interested in seeing how long Tenille can remain afloat before she's finally tossed out the delivery dock doors. Maybe if she'd been allowed to cook some soul food for the returning Sergeant, she could've pulled herself further out of the fire. Tenille is definitely the most interesting of the women.

The men are looking much better. Andy and Jim are the only weak links, and Jim had the unfortunate luck of being completely bumrushed by strip steak orders. I've worked in a steakhouse, it's very difficult keeping track of the grill during a slam like that. Nothing but experience can guide you through that and Jim just didn't have it. He won't last.
Dave, Kevin and Van are all looking very strong. Robert's getting by but he crows too much advice to other while floundering at his own station. Kevin is looking the strongest, though if he continues to shine by riding the failures of others, it will catch up to him. He needs to succeed by himself. Dave is doing admirably for a guy with one functional arm. It's a valiant effort but it will eventually be his undoing. You can't realistically put someone like that on the meat or fish station, so Dave will be denied the real opportunities to prove himself. Ramsey will get rid of Dave later on but it will be a gentle dismissal. The guy really is fighting. Van has emerged as my favorite just because of his full, over-the-top attitude. He's definitely cocky but history has shown that Ramsey reads this as confidence and rewards it. Unless Van royally messes up, he's final four material along with Kevin and Ariel. Suzanne might squeeze into the last spot, but that's pretty iffy.

The previews showed Robert seeking the paramedics' help once again. That's just tragic since going out on the same note would be the absolute worst way to end his sophomore run at the prize. I don't think the producers will be too keen on letting him compete a third time.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Sep 19, 2009 01:19 AM

An interesting and unintended observation:

Spoiler:
When Hell's Kitchen didn't record this week (the two-hour finale of "Fat Chicks Need Love Too" was on instead) I visited FOX's Hell's Kitchen website to see if perhaps the episode had been or would be aired on a different night. No such luck, it was delayed for the whole week. But while I was there, I noticed that one contestant had been crossed out prematurely. I checked back this morning and the error had been corrected.

If you really don't want to know who it was, don't look. I'm putting it in a double spoiler because some people will complain that I'm ruining the suspense, even though this whole comment is already in a spoiler box and if you're stupid enough to get butthurt after opening a spoiler, I really cannot help you. But I'll do what I can to prevent myself needless facepalming.

Spoiler:
Suzanne was prematurely crossed out.


What I believe happened is that the webmaster was never informed that Hell's Kitchen would be taking a one-week hiatus and went ahead with the update as scheduled. When it was discovered by the higher-ups, it was corrected, but not before enough people noticed, for certain.

Anyhow, if the official site is to be any indicator, we already know who is the next to go. At first, I thought this person would have a small chance at the final four, but they've recently been coming undone. Oh well, I didn't care for them much anyhow.

It's just pretty neat that FOX inadvertantly spoiled its own show.

Rockgamer Sep 19, 2009 05:14 AM

Spoiler:
Pretty interesting if indeed true (and it sounds pretty credible to me). It's not surprising since I really hadn't seen anything indicating it wasn't coming on until the last minute (just happened to notice the fat people show was staying on for two hours when I looking through the guide the night before). The only thing I'm wondering about is how long the website had been like that, since you'd think some reality show site would have caught on to it before it got taken down.

But yeah, I don't know what the happened to Suzanne. She was doing pretty well early on, but now she just seems to be oblivious to every fucking thing. I certainly wouldn't be sad to see her go now, despite really liking her at first. Out of everyone else who's left, the only one I really care about is Ariel, and I think she does have a pretty good chance at winning (she'll at least make the final two for sure).

Dr. Uzuki Sep 24, 2009 06:04 AM

Spoiler:
That is interesting seeing as how not only was the show prematurely spoiled, but the information isn't right, not even for the the following episode. Suzanne is still with the group, presently down to the final five. Sabrina and Van have been given the axe in that order in last night's double episode run. Although it seems almost certain that she's next to go.

Radez Sep 25, 2009 07:11 AM

Spoiler:
I've been surprised by Tenille's consistently strong performance lately. I mean, of all the people to take a leadership role when Ramsay stormed out, did not expect that.

Grundlefield Earth Sep 25, 2009 08:02 PM

Tenille is the most annoying person ever in interviews.

kupomog Sep 25, 2009 08:14 PM

WHAT'S MY NAAAME?

Teniiiiiiiiiiille!!!!

Eh once in awhile I do smile at her antics, tho.

Rockgamer Oct 13, 2009 12:57 AM

Wow, I just saw a commercial saying tomorrow's two hour episode would be the season finale. I have to say I'm a bit surprised, since I don't think they've ever had one with three people still remaining (don't quote me on that though, since I still haven't seen the first few seasons), but on the bright side hopefully we won't have to sit through a lot of the filler (I never really cared to watch them design their own restaurant, so I hope that part gets cut).

Spoiler:
Kevin essentially has this in the bag. He'd have to fuck up royally to end up losing this, but I just can't see that happening. As for who he'll face in the final two, it's kind of a toss up. I think Dave is obviously the better chef (he's certainly screwed up less than Ariel has), but his arm is still a big strike against him. And while Ariel was great in the beginning, in these last few episodes she has definitely taken a downhill turn. She definitely deserves her spot in the final three, but I can't say the same for the final two at this point.

kupomog Oct 14, 2009 07:38 PM

Yup they cut the restaurant designing. Kind of a strange feeling not having that in there but it definitely could be boring as hell to watch in the past. They just jumped right into everything this time around. I'm happy with the winner, I think it was most definitely a deserved win.

Zip Oct 16, 2009 06:35 AM

I was surprised at the winner
Spoiler:
I think kevin shot himself in the foot with the complicated dishes, plus he got stuck with amanda :(, oh well grats to the one armed bandit


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