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KIDOU KEISATSU PATLABOR
I haven’t seen a Patlabor thread on GFF since coming here. There has most likely been a discussion thread regarding this anime prior to my time coming to GFF (November 2004), but seeing as one does not currently exist, it warrants a dedicated thread to this spectacular action/comedy/police-story like series penned by Masami Yuuki for the original idea. So far the only other member I know who does share a profound interest in this series is Qwarky, but I'm probably bound to find a few other fans of this 80's mecha/drama/police anime here on GFF. Patlabor has had an interesting release history in terms of the anime. The first animated work was the 7 part OVA series (Released 25 April 1988 - 25 June 1989))which was an accumulation of separate screen writings. This was originally planned as a 6 part series, however the 7th, Go North, SV2! was planned as a promotion to the first Patlabor movie. From what I know so far, there are only two volumes of the Manga done by Viz Comics for the US Audience, while the Japanese version has 22 books, which were redone in 2000, compressing it to 11 volumes. Credits especially go to Mamoru Oshii as director for the animated works, which formed the animation team HEADGEAR. Episode Listing for 7 part OVA 1 Second Unit, Move Out! 2 Longshot 3 The 450 Million-Year-Old Trap 4 The Tragedy of L 5 The SV2's Longest Day (Part 1) 6 The SV2's Longest Day (Part 2) 7 Go North, SV2! As well, a forty-seven TV series was produced and aired from 1989 to 1990 as well as a follow up 16 episode series to wrap things up to a close. Interestingly though, the events of the TV series and OVA series/movies almost take place without much mention of each other, much akin to the Ghost in the Shell movies and the Stand Alone Complex TV series. Story Patlabor is an anime based during the turn of the 21st century in Japan, incorporating robots, called labors, into everyday life, just like automobiles. Along with the rise in this technology, crimes involving these labors have increased dramatically, therefore requiring the need of a special police force to control and combat labor crime. This task force was known as Special Vehicles Department or SV. For the Tokyo region, there are two main SV groups aptly named 1 and 2. This series focuses mostly, if not all the time, on the adventures of the SV2. As the story progresses, the SV2 comes across a company that plans to build an ultimate fighting labor known as the Phantom, and later to that the infamous Griffin. Cast of Characters Taken From Wikipedia: (Note: I will hopefully get around to posting thumbnails of the character portraits to aid in identifying the cast) • Captain Kiichi Goto, Section 2 Division 2: the crafty master of the whisper campaign. Leads SV.2 with the appearance of a "hands-off" approach, but is very involved. Is generally a nice, though distant person. • Captain Shinobu Nagumo, Section 2 Division 1: leader of SV.1. Highly regarded by her superiors and her officers, Nagumo is a very by-the-book style of captain. Despite her by the book mentality, she is always there to lend a hand when SV.2 gets in over their heads. • Mechanics Section Chief Seitaroh Sakaki, Section 2: Leader of the labor mechanics that service SV.2. Gruff and loud, Sakaki doesn't like it when SV.2 brings back their labors in less than perfect condition. Threatens to throw all his mechanics into the sea when they don't perform up to his expectations. • Lieutenant Kanuka Clancy, NYPD: a temporary member of SV.2 on assignment from the NYPD. Sent to observe a labor unit with the purpose of helping build one for New York City. Very good at what she does, from the usual police work to piloting a labor. Was supposed to be the pilot of the second labor in SV.2, but declined in favor of Ohta, since she'd have more time to observe when not piloting (and you don't give the job of keeping Ohta in line to an idiot.) Is generally cold and somewhat distant to the members of SV.2, but has a soft spot for Noa, who she wants to become a better pilot, and for her grandmother who lives in Hawaii. Kanuka was born in Hawaii but apparently moved to New York later on. When she travels back to New York, she stops in Hawaii to see her grandmother. • Sergeant Takeo Kumagami, Division 2 Team 2: Replaced Clancy when she returned to New York. • Chief Shigeo Shige, Section 2: second in command to Sakaki, and eventually replaces him when he retires. A total gearhead, he loves his job, probably a little too much. • Hiromi Yamazaki, Division 2 Team 1: The giant from Okinawa. Wanted to join his father as a fisherman, but got too seasick. Joined the police force and eventually made it over to SV.2. Too large to fit in a labor's cockpit, he is the driver for the carrier for Noa and Shinohara. When not on duty he tends to SV.2's vegetable garden. • Noa Izumi, Division 2 Team 1: the bubbly, perky, red-headed labor otaku. The main character of the show, Noa is usually the one at the center of the action. Loves her labor which she named "Alphonse". When growing up she named also her pets, a dog and a then a cat, Alphonse. Brash and impulsive, though not as crazy as Ohta is, Noa is one of the better pilots in SV.2: only Clancy is better than her. Has a natural affinity to her labor, and gets 110% out of it, much to her partner's amazement. • Asuma Shinohara, Division 2 Team 1: son of the head of Shinohara Heavy Industries, the company that makes 90% of the labors in the world. After a falling out with his father, Asuma joined the police force and requested to work with the labor units. Smart and honest, Asuma is a very good officer, though he's often used by Goto as a lackey. Is Noa and Hiromi's forward, or commanding officer when in the field. • Isao Ohta, Division 2 Team 2: the psychotic gun-nut piloting unit 2. In spite of his loud and obnoxious personality, Ohta's a stand up guy and a good cop, he just likes guns a bit too much. • Mikiyasu Shinshi, Division 2 Team 1: the lone married man of SV.2. Very devoted to his wife, tends to snap when people make fun of that fact or her, leading him into rages that scare even Ohta. Drives the unit 2 labor carrier. • Sergeant Gomioka Tsutomu, Division 1 Team 2: one of the labor pilots for SV.1, much like his commanding officer, he's very by the book. A good labor pilot, though Noa is better under stress. • Detective Matsui, Tokyo Metropolitan Police: Has the mutual respect of Goto. Helps Goto with the down on the ground detective leg-work sometimes. • Bud Renard, a 15 year old boy from India who likes computer game. He pilots the J9 Giffon labor, and regards Izumi Noa as his true opponent. • Richard Wong/Utsumi, SHAFT Enterprises: Geeky, intelligent but scheming head of one of SHAFT's experimental divisions. (Note: "Shaft" also has the variant spelling of "Schaft") • Kurosaki: Richard Wong's right-hand man. Music Background music is primarily done by the talented Kenji Kawai; perhaps his best work is the music for the Patlabor 2 movie. You may visit his official site here. OP Theme(s) (TV series) “そのままの君でいて (Sono mama no Kimi de Ite)" by Yuko Nitou (eps 1-34) "コンディション・グリーン～緊急発進～ (Condition Green ~Kinkyou Hasshin~)" by Hiroko Kasahara (eps 35-47) Ending Themes: "ミッドナイト ブルー (Midnight Blue)" by KISS ME QUICK (eps 1-34) "パラダイスの確率 (Paradise no Kakuritsu)" by JA JA (eps 35-47) Related Links (will be updated) Schaft Enterprises is an excellent English site regarding the anime/manga/characters/miscellaneous parts of the series. Wikipedia’s entry Torrents Even though this is quite an old anime, there are some torrents kicking around, but barely have any fast connections or seeds. This is for the 47 episode TV series. www.isohunt.com “Patlabor” for search field Patlabor TV series (approx 8 GB and 47 files) Apologies for not being able to get a URL link (how do I do that? ;_; ) A note on the proper pronunciation of “Patlabor”: Quote:
What is expected in this thread DO: • Post and discuss your favorite characters, labors, story elements and plot outlines, as well as plot questions regarding the series. Be sure to include spoilers where appropriate. Please do not put one line posts, but back up with logical or supportive reasons. Posts that do not follow this convention will be promptly deleted. • You may post *some* pictures of your Patlabor model kit /toy collection as I do have the MASTER GRADE 1/35 kits from Bandai waiting to be built. They will most likely go here. However, please do add description to the pictures that you are posting ala “Show and Tell” style, or else stand alone picture posts will be considered spam. DO NOT: • Spam with useless requests for torrent links. I have already given you a guide above. Requests such as this belong in the video requests page. • Post absolute fugly fan art. God, nothing irks me more than seeing one VERY badly drawn Alphonse. My eyes want to die. • Anything else you want to add, Bigblah? __________________________________________________ ________ FIRST QUESTION Here's my first question regarding the opening of the first movie and the middle part of the second movie. In the opening scene of the first movie, we see a group of three or so attack helicopters trying to stop a HAL-10X Labor rampaging through the forest. In the second movie, I believe we see the same model helicopter, code named "GONG ONE", assaulting the Tokyo downtown core, knocking out various telecommunication satelites, dishes, and the like. My question is does anyone know if this helicopter is in existence in reality? It looks like a cross between a Russian Hind, Apache AH-64, and a AH-1W Super Cobra Attack Helicopter. It's probably one of my favorite animated attack choppers seen so far. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...atlabor2_8.jpg http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3...atlabor2_9.jpg |
I have only seen the three movies, and a few episodes of the TV series on one of the cable channels broadcasting it currently. That said, thanks for posting the info, the movies mostly had me scratching my head. Really ought to see more of it...
Don't know if you want to discuss the music, but love what I have heard of it thus far. Should be ripping quite a lot of it soon, if you guys want them in lossless. |
I do have the Patlabor 2 Movie OST as well as Kawai's "2002 , but I'm looking for the 1st movie's OST. And please do discuss the music. Kenji Kawai SHINES in Patlabor 2's theme and ending music.
I started the series with the 2 movies (haven't seen Wasted XIII yet), but those movies mmediately hooked me, despite being several steps higher in complexity and drama than the TV series. I didn't get to see the TV series nor the OVAs until much later. I finished the 47 episode series just winter 2005 and the OVAs some time prior too. Man I wish I saved my journal entry about the Patlabor OST before the crash, that was admiration. ;_;... |
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Anyway, I have the movie OST if you want a copy. Will be ripping it once the other 5 volumes of the OVA/TV music arrive. Also, I have a bootleg containing the vocals. Once I figure out which of the official CDs have what's on it I'll most likely buy that as well. As for Kenji Kawai's music, it always seems sort of strange to me. As much as I love it, I never did get fully into them. Looking forward to hearing his work from the TV and OVA series, since the films have more of a darkness to them than what I have seen of the others. Great orchestration and instrumentation regardless. |
I remember reading a Patlabor comic book a loooong time ago, and I was really interested in it. But with all of the movies and everything, I'm confused as to the actual progression of the series. Inform me?
http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/se...ore&method=and That's what I mean -- I've got no idea what the actual progression of the series is! |
It's copy pasta time. Care of Shaft Enterprises.
But before that, what do you mean by the actual progression? If you want to follow the OVA/Movie outline. Follow this pattern: 1) 7 OVAs 2) Patlabor 1 3) Patlabor 2 4) Patlabor 3 If you want to follow the TV series, it's: 1) TV series of 47 episodes 2) New TV series of 16 episodes There is a mini Patlabor special aptly named "Mini-Pato" released around 2002, I think, which is just more/less a fan special featuring cardboard cutouts of the popular characters participating in one of Captain Gotoh's funny explaination exercises. Again, this is somewhat like how the Ghost in th Shell universe is seperated. There's the movies, then there's the Stand Alone Complex. Sabby, the 2002 version is just a mixture of some extended tracks for the main theme and Shinobu's theme "With Love" of the Patlabor 2 soundtrack. They aren't that great if you want to pay for them. I personally think the original sound track was much better. Kawai does have quite a talent for having a multi-faucet mood of music. In other words, he can create jovial type music when the characters are having a good time, or ominous type music with Patlabor 2's Wyvern/Outbreak. EDIT: South, From the description of the DVD's: http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=CPM002344 = 7 part OVA (It's saying it's in English, if so, avoid like the plague. I listened to the English dubs before and they are HORRIBLE!) http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=CPM002272 = First part of the 47 episodes (looks like there's 10 DVDs in total and this set has 4 of the first ones, again in English so pray they have Japanese dialogue) http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=CPM052488 = This looks like the 16 episode NEW TV series part. http://www.deepdiscountdvd.com/dvd.cfm?itemID=RYK004054 = This is definitely the 1st movie, try to get the 2nd movie as well. This is the MANGA Entertainment release that has Japanese dub and Eng sub in it since I own both the 1st and 2nd movies from MANGA. DISCLAIMER: please note that I'm going off of what the Box info and websites states and matching them best to my ability. Buy at your own discretion. Or you could just torrent it and wait like 4 weeks for it to finish like I did. |
The first Patlabor film is probably the 2nd anime movie I've ever seen (after Akira) and at the time (12yrs), I found it to be dull with too little action. Now, years later, I think it's a great movie once you get used to Mamoru Oshii's directing.
The 2nd was less enjoyable to me, maybe because of the slower pacing, or maybe because I couldn't understand it due to the bad dubtitles being used. I should probably see it again just in case. The manga is something I'm eager to try. It is translated here in French but it's hard to come by here because of the low-profile nature of Patlabor and they are expensive to get. Maybe someday... Quote:
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I watched them many years ago but didn't find them that enthralling much thanks to this fact. Some time ago I took a chance and got the remastered/5.1 Taiwanese R3 DVDs for them and was completely floored. The animation, art and attention to detail is simply stunning. Needless to say they are both now two of my favourite films regardless of genre. I would also strongly recommend (actually I would almost consider it a prerequisite if you want to get anything out of them) that you watch the original 7-part OVA first, to get a feel for it and get to know all the characters and settings. They are called 'The Movie' after all. |
I was wondering if WXIII was going to be the last incarnation of Patlabor, even though it was a detective story at that.
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I did get the Manga release of the movies and didn't really complain too much. I might get the re-released ones coming this April though.
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A Patlabor thread! By jove, I don't think I've ever seen a Patlabor thread here before during the years I've spent here.
A fantastic series, one of the most rewarding shows out there, and Patlabor 2 is arguably the greatest animated film ever made. Kazunori Itoh's script is filled with depth and detail, being timely even today. The relation between the OVA and TV series isn't quite like Spatula described, the TV series was more of an elaboration on the original story. The OVA was meant to stay just that, but because the series became so popular, the TV series was made, essentially a retelling and following the same plotline as the manga. The OVA, TV series and manga each show a different version of how Noa joins the team, you basically need to go through each and kinda mesh them together in your head into a single history =x If you have to go with a single story, I'd probably go with the manga's beginning, because I like the idea of Noa meeting Asuma during the exams, and it explains Asuma's position in the team better. While Masami Yuki is definitely one of the creators, saying the series was originally penned by him is a bit incorrect. The whole series was a joint creation between Studio Headgear (Mamoru Oshii, Kazunori Ito, Yutaka Izubuchi, Kazuchika Kise, Akemi Takada, Hiromasa Ogura and Kenji Kawai) with Yuki creating and designing the characters. He made the manga alongside the rest of the series, and the anime is not an "adaptation" of the manga in that sense. Call me biased, but I wouldn't bother with WXIII if I can help it. It's much better to start with the original OVA, follow that with the TV series and somewhere along there watch the first movie. Patlabor 2 is considered the conclusion of the story, so I guess if you wanted a timeline, it'd be Original OVA series TV Series (at least the first two boxes) Patlabor - The Movie (third box of the TV Series) The New Files OVA series Patlabor 2 - The Movie With WXIII being a bit of a side story. It's based on one particular chapter of the manga, Wasted XIII (Thirteen), but because the movie hardly features the SV-2 (and is neither written by Itoh nor directed by Oshii), and is pretty different from the manga version in focus, I don't even consider it part of the timeline. It's an interesting film, and Kawai's music is great, but it's definitely not essential in the same sense that the TV series and first two movies are. Man, what I wouldn't do for a new TV series, in collaboration with Production I.G. with Oshii back at the helm, writing with Itoh ;_; Or someone scanlating the rest of the manga for that matter. I thank Central Park Media daily for coming through and releasing all of the Patlabor series, instead of quitting midway. Anyone beginning to watch the series, the OVA is near parody of cop shows, with the TV series getting some more serious tones especially in a few certain story arcs (though still remaining mostly humorous), while the movies are much darker, serious and somber in tone. Also Spat, why the hell are you still searching for the first movie's OST? Didn't I already send it? Or was that the second film only? =/ Incidentally, another huge GFF Patlabor fan would be Duo Maxwell. EDIT: Goto is naturally the best character in the world. Ever since the Mount Fuji comment in the manga I've loved him for his always enigmatic outer shell and the way he's such a fine balance of amazingly intelligent, always likeable and sometimes goofy (all part of the act). Also, I own the Manga Entertainment releases of the DVDs and have no complaints, but if better quality versions are released, I'll definitely lap them up. Just as long as they're not dubtitle centric or something similarly stupid. Extras are nice and all, but I don't really care what the localization team have to say about the project =/ |
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As for WXIII being the last, I almost think so, considering what a near-fiasco it turned out to be. Production dragged out, it took years longer than expected before it was finished and despite that the end result was not all that great. Don't get me wrong, I very much like detective stories and it's an enjoyable one; animation is superb too. But I think generally it was just a bit too detached from what people knew as 'Patlabor' and after this slight failure it's questionable whether they'll ever dare try to resurrect the franchise again. In the end though, it was all worth it just for MiniPato. :) |
You only sent me the second OST, Qwarky, and I didn't ask for the first movie OST. Thank you very much. I knew it'd only be a matter of time until Q would pop his head over to say hi.
I though the OVA and the TV series were seperate universes? In the OVA, Noa Izumi reports for duty by riding her moped like a bat outta hell infront of her future team mates. In the TV series, she was a traffiic cop (pretty cute outfit, but quite ditzy) that applied for the aptitude test to the SV2. |
I mostly disliked the thought that WXIII turned into the first introduction to Patlabor for newcomers because it was more easily available for download than the TV series (before the CPM releases, of course).
Then again, I started with the first movie (subbed, VHS) and considering the movie makes no introductions about the characters, expecting you to already know who's who, it's amazing I kept up with it and loved it so much. It's still my personal favorite anime film, even if Patlabor 2 is admittedly. "better". EDIT: Well, as far I understood, the TV series is supposed to be a retelling, but since the set up is so different, I guess they'd have to be seen as separate universes. I've already meshed all of them in my head to form a single coherent universe, you see ;_; Also, in the manga she has to take entry exams of sorts, where she first meets Asuma. The scene where everyone else is feeling completely ill and throwing up from the training simulator while Asuma sits unfazed, annoyedly exclaiming "That thing's defective!" is priceless and worth reading the manga alone. It also brilliantly gives you an immediate idea of how Asuma is and acts. |
I've not seen WXIII yet, but here's a few notes of the production process taken from Schaft Enterprises:
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There's a comparison of the old Manga disc and the remaster of the first movie on this site. It's quite a difference if you ask me, especially when you scale the pictures to full screen. The comparison is between the R1 and R2, and I can't guarantee that the new DVD release will look quite that good as it hasn't been released yet, but that's the master they're basing it on so it's very much likely.
Both films will also get released in drool-worthy 10,000 unit limited editions which will feature a box, an extras disc, a 300-page book with the full, translated storyboards and another translated 180-page book with essays, interviews, art galleries etc. The downside is that the price is a massive $89.99 each (so around $60-$70 online.) BTW, does anyone happen to have the Japanese version of the manga and could tell me if there is any significant amount furigana in it? I'd really like to read it but since Viz dropped it a long time ago and there are no scanlations from what I can tell, I don't really have any other options. Unfortunately my kanji skills are almost equal to zero so if there's no furigana I'm screwed. |
I will most likely get the regular versions, as I've already blew off over $300 some on the Master Grade Kits alone. Usually I'm not a special edition whore but seeing Patlabor 2 remastered is a must before I die. God only to find the time to spend it on these Bandai kits.
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This however.. Man, either hopefully I'll win the lottery, or I'll pine for a loan from my family, because I need this so bad ;_; Me not getting a copy would be like Megalith never getting a copy of Halo. |
Spatula, your comments on MiniPato?
In my opinion it was a good way to draw in some crouds to WXIII, I wonder why Production IG felt like it was something they had to do. |
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MiniPato, the "anime", is made up of 3 episodes where the first is Goto talking about the mechanics of the Ingram and the 38 mm revolver. It's quite interesting stuff as goto explains the logic of how the weapon systems came to be. The second episode is Shige talking about the mechanices of the Ingram and how it compares to (I swear this is the funniest part) other mecha series including Gundams, Macross (I think), Gunbuster...and the whole lot. The third episode is probably the least interesting as Shinobu talks about her sex life with Goto. Haha just kidding. She does talk about Goto but about his secret business of selling hata. It was just a weird way to end MiniPato in my opinion. |
It's like one big inside joke for fans of the series and wouldn't be a very effective introduction to the show.
I also like how if I order the Limited Edition from Amazon.com, and it gets stuck in customs here (which is more than probably), I'd end up paying closer to €65 (around $78) for it. Damnit, I need a collaborator in this ;_; |
Import fees are terribly expensive in Canada even. Model kits and the like are about $10 for every $50. But books and electronic multimedia are prohibitively expensive. Sorry Q, I'm saving up for a new TV. ;_;
(Hey, at least you don't get ripped off like the FFVII Advent Children set. God, $500 for that. Sorry no.) |
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I'm in luck apparently, a friend of my aunt lives in Albany and another friend is going to visit her at the end of this month, so I might be able to order the pack from amazon and she can pick it up and bring it home when she returns, hopefully without alerting customs. And if they do want to take toll for it, she can claim it's worth $40, in which case they won't touch it.
What I'll do when the second movie is release, I have no idea, though ;_; EDIT: Quote:
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Qwarky, how close does the manga follow the OVA/TV Series arc in English? If it is somewhat parallel then I might not be interested, but I'm starting to want to see how Noa and Asuma came to be in the manga. Similarly to you, I started off with the movies (dubbed and VHS which was taped off of a Space Channel special) and had no clue what was going on. This was in about 2000 where anime wasn't quite mainstream where I lived and only the Asians were into it from Hong Kong and the like. Basically most of the anime I watched I rented from Blockbuster and ANYTHING would be fine, English dubs were not a problem at this time. After watching the first movie, this was the first time I heard the Asahi no Naka theme and immediately fell in love with it, watching the ending credits roll over and over again JUST to listen to that theme, no matter how old the VHS tape was. Good old days...LOL
This was about the heyday of Napster and I quickly snatched up the Patlabor movie OST (which I lost on my old computer and never got it again, thus far), but I listened to the "Asahi no Naka" mp3 I believe over 20 times in one sitting, loving the blast of the trumpets and orchestra and everything in me just melted. I also did get the Patlabor 2 OST (again, lost in my old computer because the harddrive was retarded, but Q sent it to me) and immediately the Main Theme, Outbreak/Wyvern, and last but definately not least, Hallucination. All these tracks were done by Kenji Kawai. After watching the first movie, I somehow wanted to learn more about the cast and went onto the Internet and sought after the TV series. On of my friends already had some of the TV episodes on CD and 7 part OVA on VHS. Boom, I was a fan. Man...oh man... now I realized how much I loved this series in such a short period of time. I'm guessing Q has seen this quite a while ago before I did though. Q, you're my hero. |
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At that point, the TV series was "available" on some very random VHS tapes, but since I at best would have only gotten some like episodes 8-12 and 25-29 or something similar, I stayed out of that. Eventually I heard the good news that CPM was bringing the series out on DVD, and immediately bought the first volume. By the time I heard CPM had decided to release the rest in boxsets, I was extatic, I didn't even care I kinda had to buy the first disc twice (it's still on my shelf and the old CG cover is hideous). Then the original OVA came out (bliss) and eventually the third TV box and New Files (zomg), which I still haven't bought, but definitely will eventually. As for the manga, it and the TV series follows the same "main" plotline. The start of SV-2, the early incidents, the Brocken, the Griffin, Schaft and all that, but the manga and anime differ on many individual tales since they were made longside each other for a while. If I understood correctly, the manga follows the original OVA slightly, then goes off on its own direction, and many of the chapters later formed episodes in the TV series. The very first case the team had to solve (or overcome) was completely different in the manga. There was no Ingram theft, or nothing like that. The crab tank that ran rampant around Tokyo set the tone absolutely perfectly for me, because it showed the attention to detail and realism the series had. Whereas stopping the tank was a priority, this was in the middle of Tokyo, so the police forces had to be very careful about where they'd confront the runaway tank with as little collateral damage as possible. Goto deviced a careful plan to try and lure the tank out of appartment areas and following all of it was really intense. Patlabor was also so appealing because it was much more realistic and honest compared to many of the other mecha titles at the time. I highly recommend reading the manga if you haven't, even if it's just the first two volumes Viz brought out (one of the biggest crimes was how not enough people bought it ;_; ). Kumagami's entrance is also completely different in the manga. Jesus, I just noticed Kumagami's VA, Keiko Yokozawa was also Sheeta in Laputa. Awesome! ='D |
The more I look at it, the more I want to get the first two volumes of the manga from Viz, even though I will be left off with like the remaining 20 volumes in Japanese. Looks like I know what I want to get come this years anime fest.
As well, I don't know how well you are familiar with Bandai products, but they have released a somewhat new line of Gundam toys called "Gundam Fix Figuration". I have 5 of these, but what would ABSOLUTELY make my day is if they were to release this: Quote:
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Now you went and made me change my set. I'm just gonna be stuck listening to Condition Green and Midnight Blue for the rest of the evening.
Anyway, incidentally, if we were more fluent in French, there's 12 volumes of the manga out in France ;_; Seems like they're going with the original 22 volume format, instead of the rerelease. Now if only someone fluent in french and english would take it upon them to scanlate it all ._. |
Where's ^___^ when you need him, but I doubt he's into anime and the likes (doesn't he have a Azumanga av/sig?)
I took like BASIC BASIC French in highschool and I read the X/1999 Clamp Manga (Understood about 40-60% of the text) in French when I was a exchange student to Quebec. Now I suck at French and my Japanese is probably better, but that's not saying much. So yeah: things to look out for (our wish list) 1) A New Patlabor TV series 2) Patlabor 4 movie 3) PS3 Patlabor Game (can someone say WIN?) 4) Those spiffy Patlabor Fix Figurations If wish # 3 comes out, I'll have a good reason not to commit suicide. LOL. EDIT: Condition Green, I love that song <3 Same with Mihara wa Lovers. |
I just want Ito to write new Patlabor anything (and Oshii to direct, naturally).
Even if they translate the Patlabor PS1 game I'd be delirious with happiness, the new crew member looked so cool. As for Face, he's into anime, he likes Scrapped Princess, One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist and I remember hooking him up with Evangelion torrents, but I don't think he'd want to translate Patlabor for us |
Seeing with all the fansubbing going on, it'd be nice from them to scan translate the Japanese manga version. I wonder if anyone would be nice enough to do something like that. I saw a few screenshots (which are very hard to come by) the PS1 game - Patlabor Game Edition and it..well...didn't look too exciting. And for the Super Famicom version, I never got passed the 3rd mission. Those bad guys were tough! ;_;...
EDIT: I also see you put a little link in your sig there. Thanks! <3 |
Well, I have the PS1 game and while the Ingram sections are a bit clumsy, it's still Patlabor, and Headgear created a new crew member, Midori, just for the game and she looked really cool~
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Darn it! Should have taken French instead of German in high-school...
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Herm, I'm guessing you're running it off of your special PS2 then hey. I wonder if there's a way to ISO it and then use a PSX emulator. Most copies I've seen on Playasia are selling for about $50 USD plus used, and that's a pretty killer price in the bad way.
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Well, it's a burned copy (you think I can find much less afford a real copy as much as I'd like one? ;_; ), so I'm sure it'll ISO easily. Playing it on an emulator is a different matter, but only one way to find out of course.
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Well, very, very basic as I only took one year Japanese. Had I wasted my three high-school years on French instead of German the French volumes would probably have been a lot easier.
Still, I'm thinking of getting a Japanese set; Animaxis currently has a complete set of the re-releases for about $50. Only problem is that their shipping fees are exorbitant so maybe I should ask yesasia if they can stock them first. At least I will probably not have to worry about customs since it seems they usually ignore packages containing books (even though they technically should charge 6% VAT.) |
Good old Patlabor. Years and years ago one of the first anime movies I saw was Patlabor. It was as awesome back then as it still is. Though I came to appreciate 2nd movie only later.
That also reminds me that I still haven't finished the TV series (or was it OVA >_>), as Q has been hiding the boxset from me >=0 And THAT brings up the idea that we really should watch both movies one of these days, Q-d00d. |
I think this is one of those rare moments where I wish I had a temp home in Finland. ;_;
Patlabor Av/Sig chain anyone? Looks like Q had claimed Noa (LOL). I call Kanuka Clancy. |
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Need to figure out some compromise though. I've felt like rewatching the films for a while now, can we wait till I get the remastered version of the first film? =D Also, I think I've been keeping the OVA box from you. I thought you downloaded the eps later anyway =/ EDIT: I'm all for a chain. Pyocola already has Shinobu =D I actually meant to make an Asuma avatar, but I realized all my Masami Yuki drawings of him were a bit too small for it, so this Noa pic was fine. I absolute LOVE Ota in the background, in the Ingram suit :tpg: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/patlabor2.jpg Drunken Kanuka and Noa is awesome too <3 |
It will take a while before I rewatch Patlabor 1 and 2, since I saw them in 2005, and I usually see them MAYBE once a year, because they're that good. Anymore would be a crime. Plus I'd like to see it with my hopefully new TV this Xmas. Chances are, I'd probably replay ICO again before watching. Too bad I don't know of too many Patlabor fans near my area. ;_;
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Well yeah, I only know one Patlabor fan near me, and he's about two towns away *points up above* :(
I've kept my movie watching pretty annual, though there's been a slight delay upon acquiring the TV series and OVA as that's kept me Patlabor happy for a while now. I'm getting more and more excited about the remastered DVD now, I hope it works out ;_; |
All this Patlabor talk has made me somewhat giddy. It's Friday April 7 afternoon now at 3:36 PM and it's one hour till I get out of the office. Once I get home I'll be sure to make a new Av/Sig, but I'm now thinking of Goto, or maybe even Shinobu. Building my plastic kits and listening to Ingram (remix) and Knock on Tomorrow should get my Patlabor fix for a while.
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Make sure you find a very good Goto picture for an avatar, or I'll have your head >=0
Goto-san must always be well presented and respectable (even if he appears like such an awesomely lazy wish-wash in the manga). And you already called Kanuka ;_; Think of the awesome "SHUT UP!" you could have in your custom title! |
I need either his dopey face or the screenshot of him smoking a cig.
For the sig I might use him in his patrol car in the 2nd movie, by the standoff at the Japanese Parliament. Ah damn who to choose who to choose? Although I'll admit I have do have the secret hots for Kanuka. I love her saucy attitude. Wait, what the hell am I saying? I hated her ratting on Takeo in the New OVA where they are at the Onsen resort and Takeo couldn't come up with the names of some historical figures. God I wanted to slap Kanuka for being such a BITCH! She's like ...umm... one of the staff on GFF..yeah... |
Just don't pick his face from the second movie, he's so awfully pale.
But but think about Kanuka ;_; So many awesome scenes. http://www.mononari.com/tt/attach/01...544/549559.jpg "Sightseeing?" "No." *removes subglasses* "Combat." Also incidentally, I knew I'd sent the Patlabor movie OST to someone, since I still had it rarred up. I guess I just hadn't sent it to you, but someone else =P |
Okay fine. Kanuka did look the most "hot" in the episode where the plane gets hi-jacked by that creepy mouse guy, especially with her hair tied back in that pony tail, god...spuzzum. It was hilarious when the flight attendant said thanks to the "passanger" since flight attendants were expected to be the utmost polite professionals in the Japanese service industry. Makes me want to take Japan Air the next time I head over there. Too bad her seiyuu passed away like 3 years ago, according to Schaft Enterprises.
Well, after doing a google search, I get like all of six "wonderful" image results: http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en...cy&sa=N&tab=wi Seriously...>_> |
Patlabor marathon OMG
::Sweaty nerds in a dark room:: :cheer: Drive away your parents for a day and we'll have a studio o/ |
Damn, now I'm worried about someone "stealing" my current Densha Otoko bunny set up. It's one of my favorites and many people seem to like it.
Boo-kun, Patlabor Marathon to the max!!! (those remastered DVDs seem pretty nice right about now)... Hey Q, it's been decided: Quote:
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But we can't watch the movies downstairs, they're region 0, but our stupid DVD player refused to play them :(
I searched "Kanuka" and came accross the most wonderful gallery. Patlabor, PlanetES AND Haibane Renmei all on the same page? Yes, please~~ http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/kanuka.png :3 |
I took a couple of screens of Shinobu from Minipato to use as sig.
From my favourite part, I just love the deep voice of Sakakibara Yoshiko. ^_^; (plus the Oshiiness of it all) |
Qwarky wins 10 internets and the AV-98 Ingram Alphonse. Remember to release the breaks and put on auto-balance, Q.
EDIT: Damnation, the site is taking FOREVER to load. ;_; |
Gallery needs more 'MiniBane'!
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God damn, even for you, you can seem to access the page. Perhaps I should pause some of my torrents.
(I don't really like my current signature. Do you?) |
It's just temporary, till you find better quality pics. I suggest using concept art and character designs as the anime screens usually need a lot of touching up to look decent. Unless you manage to shrink them a whole lot so that the fuzziness isn't visible.
I could have sworn I had an Akemi Takada artbook somewhere, but I can't find it. Maybe I just saw a dead torrent for it and only remember having downloading it even if I really didn't. |
Damn, I'm going to have to find a better signature. This pool side one will have to suffice for now. I don't really like to think of this supercop as slutty. ;_;
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So I popped in the first movie again last night and I swear, it just keeps getting more amazing every time I see it; luckily the movie has aged really well. I also took a closer look on some of the background art this time and they should really release an artbook of it or something, just look at these scenes from the detective part (I just spoilered them as to not ruin the board look):
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See why Q and I love to watch these movies at least once every year? It's like a good wine that gets better when aged.
Patlabor 1 does seem to keep some 80's qualities, especially everytime I see the HOS screen pop up with 80's computer CG, but that's a nice reminder of how far technology has advanced in reality as well. The events of Patlabor 2 are so apt to the current events of today, and the technology is definately not far off to what we have 10 years later (1992 vs 2002). |
I don't understand people who complain the films are boring. I mean, are they not paying attention? Are they so expectant of explosions and action that following and recieving information is considered dull?
The films are incredibly tense even when there isn't any action on screen (comparable to films like The Insider, A Time to Kill or even War Games). They fit the thriller name perfectly and when the action finally starts, the buildup has been so effective and the viewer knows what's at stake (since the films and series are far more realistic in their detail and of code of conduct) that it's unbearable. While I adore the assault on the Arc at the end of the first film, the preparation for the operation was just as exciting. Following the crew load up, watching Goto and Shinobu use their connections to get information and clearances, Ota slowly going insane with excitement, Hiromi testing the anti-armor rifle, all worked perfectly to build up the atmosphere. Similarly, the final tunnel run at the end of Patlabor 2 is probably one of the most breathlessly directed and executed action sequences ever. It completely lacks the fancy OTT action of most mecha anime, but it's this sophistication, controlled direction and attention to realism and detail that make it such an utterly breathtaking and exhilarating scene. I was seriously sitting on the edge of my seat with white-knuckle grip the whole way through when seeing it for the first time. |
LOL, teh ingrams neded chain gunz and teh noa neded super rail gun and booster jet 4 teh Arc. So boring movie 1 wht a waste of timeu.
>_> Patlabr 2 was borin as fuck man, liek omg ULTIMA RATIO balloons gonna rape Tokyo city. Hey Qwarky, Spoiler:
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How was your sleep last night? Geez..what's the time in Finland...
10 PM already? Man it felt like only last night I talked to you which was a couple hours ago, and nity nite again soon. On track of the tread, have you found any pics of Kanuka in the command labor car in the 1st movie? Those are probably the best shots of her in action with that pistol. Damn man! |
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Secondly, my player refuses to go frame-by-frame, so I had to physically fight to get some decent stills, as it kept taking screens of midimages, leaving really annoying ghost frames, like so: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard06.jpg Thirdly, upon taking the screenshots, it made them in some whacky ratio for whatever reason (the actual picture was simple 4:3), so I had to manually resize them. Anyway, I rarred what I got and rapidshared them, but there's only like one or two really usable ones unless you can find a Photoshop whiz. Anyway: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard01.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard02.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard03.jpg As you can see, she doesn't look that good in most of the stills because the animators were slacking off in part with faces, and because of the overal image quality. That is an awesome gun, though <3 Then when things look good, like in the kick ass shootout: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard06.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard09.jpg It's difficult to get a decent shot ;_; Then the guard bots fight back and break the search light of the jeep: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard15.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard16.jpg It's a neat sequence, but I also managed to get a good frame of her in that one that you could use, though you'll need to shrink it a bit to make it look cleaner. http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard18.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard19.jpg Last two shots just because I love the dialogue ='D Anyway, the whole thing, 19 screens in total here: http://rapidshare.de/files/17522010/Pat.rar.html See if you can use any, or then you need to wait till the remastered edition is out. Or maybe Pyocola can take some screens of the R3 version ;_; EDIT: Also, in case someone is still searching for missing OSTs, here's what I have: http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/Patlaboralbums.jpg Most of them are not very high bitrate though, so be warned. And yes, I know I have two copies of Patlabor 2 OSTs and pre-movie OSTs. |
Holy shit, Thanks. I'll probably use this one:
http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/P...lipboard16.jpg But I'll have to shrink it to reduce the "fuzzy noise". Good Job Office Izumi. Let's have buttsecks now and make a nice doujin about this. ^___^. |
I wish you'd stop being so crass about everything ;_;
While I generally keep lewd thoughts out of my favorite series, Patlabor isn't without its doujinshi appeal, although strictly Asuma + Noa. Currently going through the motions of trying to find decent N+A fanfiction, but coming up with very few. You're in Charge was a bit icky, and everything on fanfiction.net is either sweet, but oh so short, or of the "cloud sat down on the chair hey tifa do you want to go out he asked tifa tifa couldnt believe what she was hearing but she had wanted to hear those words for so long" quality ._. |
I took two screenshots of Kanuka from that scene, you can use them if you want:
http://www.ue.bostream.se/c9490/pyo/dt/kanuka1.jpg http://www.ue.bostream.se/c9490/pyo/dt/kanuka2.jpg About the soundtracks, what are those TV & New OVA discs? Are they part of some collected box or are they the same as the 'PHASE' soundtracks? This is what I have in my folder: http://www.ue.bostream.se/c9490/pyo/dt/ptfolder.jpg I believe I have 'PHASE II' somewhere as well, but the quality was really bad (<128kbps). |
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Damn those screens look nice Pyocola. But I hate chaning my signature like 3 times now, so I'll keep this for a bit.
Qwarky, sorry but words just don't do it for me. I NEED PITCHAS! I don't wanna make this sewers material but I did see a somewhat amusingly drawn doujin with Noa with some criminals. Poor law enforcement.. ;_; (I just said this after playing hours on end of San Andreas...so, my appreciation of the police force as gone down a few notches). Whatever...this is just whatever... more less sewers material but I dunno so read at your own risk or whatever but everyone on GFF will laugh at us so I dunno ;_;:
I think I should start focusing more on the Ingrams and mecha aspect now. Now where did those Bandai plastic kits go? |
Always so terribly crass -_-
That fits neither of the aqcuirements, instant fail >=|~ |
Terribly crass at not respecting law enforcement, right. >_>
(I personally never found police officers in my area that friendly. I just tend to stay away from them). When I first saw Noa, I thought it was a guy. This was also mentioned in one of the later episodes where Noa saves Momoko, the TV anchor, and her police life is shown on TV. One of the old obaa-san yell out that she thought Noa was a boy as well. Tom Boy. Okay. |
That's the whole point. She's supposed to be a tomboy.
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I think this is one of the unique qualities that I enjoyed in this series. I just recently (last night) started Gundam Seed. This pretty much follows the pattern of most other mecha series where the guys take the lead.
Few, very few mecha series has a girl in the lead. So far it's Patlabor and perhaps Gunbuster/Top o Nerae (2) and "maybe" GITS. But GITS is more cyberpunk then mecha. What I liked is the character designers made her have a good balance of both masculine and feminine qualities. She's not absolutely physically striking the first moment you see her. But it's the character and her spunky attitude that you admire. Enough of the EMO Heero Yui c/o GW. Similarily with Gundam Seed, Kira takes the front lead, even though now it looks like some girls are getting in the mecha action. |
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I can't wait for the remastered version, it will be absolutely wonderful seeing the film in practically new glory, but the old release is far from worthless. It got me, and quite a lot of others, into the series in the first place :tpg: |
Yup.
Oh, by the way.... I have the three movies, and the OVA. I've been dying to watch the TV series, but the noob anime club at my school doesn't have it, and I never bother to save up the money for it. Anybody got the whole original series for upload, with decent subs? |
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Well, I can now answer my own question about the manga. I downloaded an archive with all 22 volumes, and it seems like it indeed has furigana for practically every kanji. Unfortunately, I grossly overestimated my abilities and I find it's taking me forever to understand even with the furigana and a bunch of web dictionaries. All those で, に, して, んだろう and ってs will be my ruin. ;_;
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I WANT NOW! I want it so badly...;_;
How much of this can you understand? I'll probably be able to pick up like 5% of the text, but I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of technical jumbo-mumbo all in katakana. |
I'm rather interested myself in knowing where you downloaded all that. I wouldn't mind just having the whole thing on my computer as a keepsake of sorts, even if I wouldn't understand any of it for now.
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Again, if any fansubbers who have good knowledge of written Japanese would scantilate the manga, that'd be absolute awesomemess.
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Regarding the music, anyone know of a good website with a discography of the different CDs released? Trying to find some CD info and track listings, but haven't found much if anything... :(
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Qwarky, does your copies of Patlabor vol. 1-6 have the track listings? If so, I'll offer you an upgrade of them in exchange for said info. :D |
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I asked BigBlah for any good places, but he said there really aren't any. [12:28:14] <Gigablah> there's no really good place [12:28:21] <Gigablah> most of the ones available suck [12:28:43] <Gigablah> the only reliable one is Neko-han-ten [12:28:48] <Gigablah> which doesn't update too often [12:29:12] <Gigablah> I created ongawiki for this purpose, but I haven't had time to work on it [12:33:09] <Q-chan> well if they have older albums, that's fine [12:37:11] <Q-chan> bah, no Patlabor albums [12:37:28] <Q-chan> no Mobile Police Patlabor or Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor either for that matter [12:38:39] <Q-chan> they only have Believe Yourself Again in a separate section [12:44:52] <Gigablah> guess i'll work on adding patlabor albums to ongawiki next [12:45:37] <Q-chan> yes plz So that's good news at least ;_; One site that blah said is fairly comprehensive, would be here, which I've linked before. The trouble is of course it's all in Japanese, but at least you have a list of albums with all the codes and such there to help you look elsewhere from there on. |
Thanks! The good news, I have narrowed it down a little, found info for all but the first three volumes. Will keep my eyes open regardless...
Though, the best I have come up with is the following: http://www.hitokiri.com/archives/Patlabor/patcd.html http://www6.ocn.ne.jp/~jimbe/collection/cdrack2.html BTW, I found a mirror of AniDisc while Googling for info tonight: http://members.fortunecity.com/anidisc/ I guess someone might want to save the site locally in case it goes offline completely. Anyone know what happened to the Yet Another Anime CD site though? It used to be my one stop source for practically everything but the newer releases. Bummer! :( Oh well, here's hoping some enterprising individual decides to make an Anime site that mirrors Chudah's Corner... :D |
I actually translated the tracknames for all six volumes of the Patlabor image soundtracks a while ago during a tagging run. I'll be adding them to OngaWiki very soon.
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Thanks for the heads-up! I'll be doing quite a few Patlabor rips in lossless soon. Volume 1-6, the Complete Vocal Collection and at least the second Movie OST. Not sure about the third, might or might not have it ripped already...
Anyway, let me know if you guys want an upgrade as such, or in a higher bitrate MP3. :) |
Damn, actually this would REALLY help me out since I jumbled all my TV OSTs Movie tracks into one big conglomerate. Stupidest idea ever.
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Should be ripping them sometime this week... :)
BTW, that's a nice site you have there Bigblah. Just registered and will try to help out if and when I can. I have the reissue of Black Magic M-66 if you wanted any info on that album. Oh well, there's several titles I wouldn't mind seeing added. Will check the site often most likely! Just what I needed! ;) |
Qwarky: I downloaded the manga from a P2P network called Share, the archive is about 1 GB. If you don't want to bother with it yourself I could probably upload it somewhere, although I'm going away for a week or so tomorrow, so it would have to wait.
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It's all in kana/kanji right? Even so, I'd love to have a copy just for the art and stuff (more av/sigs coming liek wut).
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Definitely in no rush, so long as you're not deleting it any time soon =P Oh and anything you might like in exchange, let me know. Also had to go back to my Noa set, no matter how awesome Uniracers is. This just feels so comfy, just like my 8-bit ICO and Reki sets. |
To tell you the truth Q, I was somewhat sadden by the sudden change to uniracers (but I know uni is pretty awesome too), and thought you deserted the Patlabor love. Not that I'm trying to coerce members into particular av/sigs.
Come April 20th I'm changing back to mina-san for a couple days. You'll see why. ^ ^ |
Eh, well I switched to Uniracers because of the occasion and it was my suggestion to do a double-set with Juan to begin with (because of the occasion).
On the remastered movie side of things, I've yet to hear back from my co-conspirators on whether it's a go yet, but I noticed the film is eligible for amazon.com's special "Super Saver Shipping" inside the US, which means I'd be getting it without having to pay for shipping fees at all. I assume there'll still be a handling fee, but it's still money saved~ |
Yup Q. It's well...pretty much unheard of to get the EXACT time.
:computer crashes: 12 days or so for the reissue of Patlabor 1? I wonder if any retail stores locally will carry it. |
Guess I am glad that I had only previously purchased the films on VHS... ;)
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I own a subbed VHS of the first film, and both films on DVD, and I've come this close to twice buying a newer double pack release (with some extra documentary that was so tempting), but have still resisted.
A proper remastered version I won't mind getting though. Especially one with such lovely extras. |
I have the subbed VHS of the OVA. I really should get a DVD copy of it, since the VHS is showing it's age in sound and quality, however I really only like the 1st, 5th and 6th episodes. I wasn't much of a fan of the "Tragedy of L" nor the "450 million year old mystery" episodes.
Picking it up locally is a rip off. OMG! I <3 internet shopping. |
I was informed my aunt's friend would be returning from the states a bit later, so I'd be getting my hands on the movie pretty late into May, but at least they all seem ok with the plan, so I can place my pre-order soon.
Though I just realized Amazon.com won't probably accept payment by Visa Electron, so I'll probably need to ask to borrow my aunt's Visa again. Complications, complications, but I don't mind waiting for a few weeks if it saves me a good 30 bucks or so. |
Well I'd recommend waiting, since there's always the chance that it might be lost in the mail, a total rip off since you've paid for the postage + item. If your aunt's friend has it, I'm guess he'd be a bit more reliable than the postal service. Plus both of us have seen it numerous times already, albeit with lower quality on the Manga releases.
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Well, while GFF was down, I made some ordering of my own~
http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/Pat01.jpg Delivery estimate to ME: somewhere around May 18th ;_; |
All the best to your shipment. I'm going to sit on it for a bit before I order, plus I'll just get the regular edition.
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Amazon uploaded new pics.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...V53777813_.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...V53777813_.jpg This going to feel like a very long wait now =x I'll need to occupy myself with something. Probably some compulsive game and perhaps rewatch the OVA. |
OMG A TEXTBOOK WITH IT? A TEXTBOOK? IN ENGLISH?
Okay, I'm ordering. EDIT: On second thought, I'll see what Q has to say first, then I'll make my decision. But the regular edition is for sure a go. A bit from Amazon's description: Quote:
I think this is the cover for the regular edition. I really don't like it: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...B000E5LF0A.jpg You can tell that's the Bandai MG kit they used. I already recognize Alphonse's head and that's EXACTLY the same mold as the kit, plus the visor is the ambient green. |
It's as if you've ignored every single picture and content description of the Limited Edition that's been posted so far, and are just now noticing them =/
That there's the original storyboard and a second book with interviews and articles was already apparent in the link Pyocola posted here. |
I guess I just "overlooked" the LE. Will you be as so nice to scan ALL 300 pages of your book for GFF's enjoyment. ;_;
I think I just pulled an "Osaka". (:tpg:) |
Well, I ended up ordering the LE from Axel Music. Price is almost the full $90 (I had a coupon for $12 from previous purchases though) but it's guaranteed customs-free within the EU and since they have a scan of the back I think they have it in stock and will ship it on Monday. I thought about Amazon or DVD Pacific, but with a heavy package like that I'd get hit by customs for sure and end up paying even more.
About the manga, how do you want it? Is there a good FTP or something where I could upload it to? Or should I just zip the volumes individually and use rapidshare or something? |
Rapidshare is nice enough, thank you. How many MB is this whole thing? I was wondering maybe through email since my gmail account can handle *some* heavy files. Perhaps if you broke them up into 10 MB files or something. I'm guessing its about 200 MB in total? I'm guessing here.
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No, the whole series is around 1GB (also already mentioned :p.) I think I'll split it with two volumes in each archive, then it'll fit nicely within rapidshare's 100MB/file limit.
Here's the first zip: [Yuuki Masami] Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor - Volume 01-02 This is my first time uploading to rapidshare so let me know if it works and I can upload the rest over the next couple of days. |
Link works fine for me, thanks a bunch <3
If they do ship the movie on time at Axel Music, I'll be getting mine pretty late when compared, but I'd be saving around 20 euros or so, so I don't mind. I might use them when buying the second movie, if they'll have it in stock. |
Yeah, I'm guessing all you guys have are the regular accounts where you either wait 30 seconds or for infinity to get like a 1 MB file from all those "MOAR SAUCE PLZ" links in 4chan. You do visit it, right? But it's better than nothing.
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Waiting a minute for 100MB is not that bad is it?
Here's the next part: [Yuuki Masami] Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor - Volume 03-04 |
A 65 minute wait, Jesus. Plus Rapidshare said something about my thing being expired for me to get the first part. What the hell?
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65 minutes?! What the hell did you do to upset their servers that much?
Volume 5 and 6: [Yuuki Masami] Kidou Keisatsu Patlabor - Volume 05-06 |
I use rapid share like what, once every week whenever I'm on 4chan getting doujins and shit.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...reisstupid.jpg Okay, yeah I clicked on it before, but I didn't get to download. Usually rapidshare behaves nicely. >_> |
That's ridiculous. 65 seconds for me at maximum. The download time is a different matter, of course.
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Woohoo, manga zips! As a mecha fan in general, i've been wanting to get into Patlabor for a long time now, but have never managed to get my hands on any files. Thank you much.
Maybe I'll actually be able to understand what you are all talking about in this thread now. Of course, I'll probably be struggling with the Japanese even more than Pyocola, so maybe not. |
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...T23minutes.jpg
Seriously WTF. It first gave me the download link, but then gave me this error, or some shit like that. But anyways, Pyocola, any chance with yousendit? ;__; |
I'm guessing you've overused rapidshare and they've got your IP flagged for shitty service :(
70 second wait for the 7-9 pack for me just now. |
What the hell, and I barely got that much from 4chan, only a few doujins. C'mon, help a brotha out. ;__;
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Wow, I just got a 15 minute wait for the 9-10 pack.
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Pyocola, I'm thinking you may have to reupload some of the later packs if rapidshare only hosts them for a few days. I really appreciate you uploading them at all, though. Thankies <3 I also noticed I have a bunch of Akemi Takada artbooks, if you're missing any. (no books 4 u, spat) http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/Akemi01.jpg |
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In my experience, it's been that when you download more than 30MB or something like that, they cut you off and you have to wait a while before you're allowed to download again. Usually it's around an hour, so you could probably get a couple of packs per day. According to rapidshare the files are deleted 30 days after no downloads, so they should be fine for now.
And I would be interested in any Takada artbooks with Patlabor art in them (haven't seen KOR or anything else she's worked on so I have no real need for those, yet.) |
YES! Finally it seems to be working, albeit with quite slow transfer speeds. Better than nothing, though.
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Anybody got their Limited Edition yet? I went to check if mine was still set to ship on the 30th and noticed Amazon raised the price to $80.99. Mine will still ship for $62.99 so I'm glad I didn't wait around to order it.
They're apparently preparing it for shipment, so hopefully that means no hitches along the way~ http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/Pat04.jpg |
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Mine shipped the other day, so it should be here sometime next week.
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Is this a Pat Fan quiz or something?
[EDITED FOR CONTEST] WILL POST MY ANSWERS AFTER CONTEST IS OVER. |
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#4 and # 9 I don't know about.
Also for # 8, Of course it's the BLAH BLAH, I thought this was asking Pat questions in general, but I was wondering how come it's so focused on the 1st movie trivia. Also, is this open to US only or internationally. I tried to look at the rules and stuff but can't seem to locate it. |
I really should get everything included in this serie.
but Legally expensive, hard/impossible to find. And I somehow doubt there's a torrent for all this. So my best bet is to let Q collect them and then confiscate.. loan them. |
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Perhaps I should take another watch of the movie again. But I hope they're basing their questions off the subbed stuff, however unlikely. I'm guessing there's a few details which were in the dubbed track not included in the subbed track. I don't recall the answers to # 4 or # 9. Perhaps it's during the opening scene where the helicopter pilot says shit about how labors help society but there's crime, and SHI is based somewhere (HINT HINT) and then talks to Noa and Asuma. Maybe I shouldn't be typing this. (-_-)
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It's finally here~
http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/zomg/IMG%20326a.jpg It sure took a long time to get here, but man is this a sweet package <3 I can't wait to get to watch this tonight, though I need to watch the Eurovisions 2006 finals first. THEN it's Patlabor time! More pictures here in case anyone's interested. EDIT: I took a little peek of the film, just to see how the picture quality is and there's quite some changes. [21:12:04] <Q-chan> Wow, they've completely reworked the film [21:12:16] <Q-chan> the picture is so good, and they've redone the sound [21:12:43] <Q-chan> the music is arranged. Same composition, but slightly different arranegements and a lot more instruments in use [21:12:53] <Q-chan> a lot of new sound effects where there were none [21:13:12] <Q-chan> and they must have removed something as well, at least the parachute sounds at the very beginning weren't there |
GOD DAMN! I'm trying to save up money here...;_;
PATLABOR 2 gonna eat my wallet liek wut. |
I've already decided I'm not going to go through this again and I'll just order the Patlabor 2 LE directly to Finland and just pay whatever it costs me.
Oh and my LE box is number 1845 out of 10000 ~ http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/zomg/IMG%20334.jpg |
Herm...... God damn Q, now I feel so bad. I'd be funny if I get like 9912. But no. Not gonna happen.
Somehow now, I'm not so inclined to go to the upcoming local anime fest to spurge on useless anime figures. >_> And I'm only like 50% done through building my Alphonse. Just you wait, Q. EDIT: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...atlaborPin.jpg Amirite. ::notgonnahappen:: |
Man, they've really revamped everything about the film. I didn't think they'd redo the voice acting as well.
It's a subtle change, but the atmosphere and mood in certain scenes plays out differently now. It's still an amazing film by any standards and I can't for the life of me understand how anyone could seriously call this movie dull =/ Still, I wish they hadn't redone the ending theme, I liked the old version so much better. Now if there was a (easy) way to watch the film with the new picture and the old audio, that would be interesting~ |
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If there's some kind of Sound Renewal version of the Patlabor Movie OST like there was of P2, I'm pretty sure this Bandai version uses the same music, or something very similar. Double Post: As I should have expected, the Patlabor The Movie Archives book sheds light on this whole thing. Basically, DVDs came, Dolby Digital was all the rage, so Headgear was encouraged to remaster the two movies into better shape, but because the original audio of the movie was, well.. old, they had to recreate the audio from scratch. So all of the dialogue was rerecorded, with the original cast, in 1998. Kenji Kawai re-arranged the music as well, adding and using more instruments etc etc. http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/IMG%20342.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/IMG%20344.jpg http://myy.helia.fi/~a0400729/Pics/IMG%20346.jpg Soo, basically, once again, the US publisher fucks up. As the last paragraph states, the Japanese release included both the original audio and the Sound Renewal version. I'm guessing the original audio "had" to be left out because of the english dub track. Now, what the VAs and designers say in the text I agree with. The new mix is fascinating, making the experience richer, new, with such small subtle changes. More emphasis on sound effects in moments that used to be more or less silent, and vice verca, it's a wonderful new look into an old masterpiece, and because the original crew made it, you know it's close to their intended vision. However, being denied the option to hear it like it was originally made, which should have been there anyway, is kinda ticking me off. Like the text says, Patlabor 2 did not require rerecording, so I shouldn't be worried about there, but right now I am extremely tempted to try and find a DVD image rip of the Japanese LE, take the original audio track, and then compile and burn a DVD of my own with the Japane LE original audio and the US LE video and subtitles. Trouble is, I've no idea where to start looking. Pyocola, any help? ;_; |
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1) Rapidshare is being a bitch and not letting me get the new audio - I got the old one. email plz? ? ;__; 2) It sucks with them tampering with how Asahi no Naka sounds like. I want it to have been kept with a serious tone, ala the first way. 3) It's a good thing they did the re-recording in 1998. You Inoue, the seiyuu for Kanuka passed away in 2003, so it would have totally sucked for them to withhold doing the voice overs another 5 some years later. I'm guessing if they bothered to do a recording so many years later, perhaps there is still some hope for another Patlabor TV series (ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG, plus well...they did XIII) Quote:
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Hey, you got yours too! I got number 1775 by the way. And yes, unfortunately they didn't include the old 2.0 track, and no it was not because of the dub, it could easily have fit there anyway. I'm not exactly sure why they would want to leave it out, maybe it was just a dumb decision. Still, I think you're being too negative here, at least if you have a capable sound system the 5.1 track is totally the better experience! Flipping between the tracks (on the R3) during the final storm the old one is like 'pssshuu' and the new one is like 'KSHSHSHSH, WIND BLOWING, RAIN EVERYWHERE, IT'S A STORM!!!1'
*ehm* And what's this thing about the ending? It was re-arranged just like all the other tracks, and it should be the same arrangement that's on the 1999 / Sound Renewal version of the soundtrack. Changing between that version and the one from 'Inquest' I can't say I really hear much difference in 'seriousness', the old version has just as many cowbells, those 'clack-clack' instruments and weird passages. The new one is mostly just louder and much clearer. Anyway, if you want to compile a custom version why do you need the Japanese disc, didn't you have the old disc from Manga? You should be able to extract and use the old 2.0 soundtrack from that one. |
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Noa's in your arc, taking out your labors. Seriously now, I want Patlabor 2 LE. ;_; |
I'd also argue that of course a 2.0 mix is going to sound quiet on some weedy home theater speakers that are like ten feet away from you, since usually the sound gets distributed on at least 3 more speakers =/
I've watched the Manga Video release plenty of times wearing headphones and the howl of the wind is massively powerful in either version. However, the 5.1 mix emphasized music over sound effects in some scenes (which it did not do in the 2.0) so the howl gets lost, while some scenes emphasized sounds over music. These are only noticeable because I'm so used to the 2.0 mix, though. The horns in the 5.1's ending theme sound entirely different from the original version though. I don't have the Sound Renewal OST for P1, so I haven't gotten used to it like you have, apparently. Similarly, I feel that the original version of Heavy Armor (the theme that plays at the start during the runaway crab labor incident) has a bit more oomph to it because of the "hardness" of the synth, while the new instruments soften the tune a lot in the 5.1. This is what happened to In the Morning Sunlight (the ending theme) as well. But that's obviously just me, I never like listening to the Sound Renewal OST of P2 either. |
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Not quite Patlabot 1: LE, but I did pick this up today at the anime fest.
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I just looked up Amazon to see what the cover of the Patlabor 2 LE looks like:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...B000FILUL0.jpg I personally don't like it. Now it looks like some sort of anime action movie that's full of HOLY SHIT ACTION that's gonna rock your socks. It gives a totally wrong impression in my opinion. Plus it's too busy looking. The Manga Entertainment cover looks like this which was much more visually appealing and gave a sense of uneasyness as Shinobu's struggle with her duties as a police officer and that of her former lover: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...6303854540.gif See how visually appealing it is? It's not too busy and yet still holds quite well. |
The Manga cover isn't even that good, but the LE cover is pretty awful. But then so was the P1 LE as well. They just take two figures from two different covers (probably the front and back of the Archives book like with P1) and then stick them together in a shitty photoshop job.
Ah well, I'm buying it for the film and books anyway. Incidentally, I had no idea P2 was coming out in July already, I better ask my aunt again if we can order it, I thought it was coming out later in the fall. |
Speaking of Pat 2 covers, here's my favorite:
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...176A/03-00.jpg I think I've seen a VCD of this using this cover, and it looked quite nice. There's also the one with the tank and the Tokyo Metro building, but I think that was for a promo poster. And here's my favorite for the Pat 1 cover from the Korean version: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...rTheMovie1.jpg |
Giving this thread a casual bump:
It looks like this is the regular edition Patlabor 2 cover. Still, pretty meh: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...B000FILUKQ.jpg Is that even supposed to be Shinobu. She looks like a housewife. |
LOL Model Kits LOL
Finally, I got the "regular" Master Grade 1/35 Alphonse about 90% done and thought to post it here as well.
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...ONSETWINS2.jpg And to think I still have Ingram 2 and 3 to build, plus the Command Car and the EXTL. I'll be updating this regularly in this Hanger Bay 42.2 Thread to keep things nicely together. |
4th consecutive post LOL and bump for happy Police Justice.
I just finished watching Patlabor 1 LE. What a blast. A few things to note: Pros: Rich visuals and textures. The translations this time around are very spot on and even allowed me to interpret and understand the essence of the Ark diemma much better. Just a switch of the wording can open up a new way to interpret that from the Manga release. They kept the "Sightseeing? No, Combat” intact, thank God. They didn’t keep the labor worker’s lines the same though. This was right after followed by Ohta’s comments that he was trying to be nice while dealing with a taxpayer. Despite this is the first ever occurrence of me watching an anime that has been totally re-dubbed by the original seiyuu, most of them seem quite in place. I feared that ten years would impact them slightly, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Shinobu’s voice seems a bit more motherly like now, while Ryûnosuke Ôbayashi’s voice work seems to have died down a little. He doesn’t quite capture that suave and slick voice from ten years past, but still, it’s good to hear him sound just peachy in 1998. Note that I don't have a 5.1 surround system, so this might be why. I should check if there is an option for the 2.0 stereo or whatever suits my TV speakers. LOL TV speakers. Cons: Since when the hell did Gotoh and Shinobu get promoted to Commander. Their respective ranks are Captain and will stay at Captain. I don't know if this was just a piss poor job at getting their ranks right, while getting much of the rest of the translation spot on. Seriously. This is the biggest peeve I have of this version. I sure as hell didn't pay a ridiculous sum of money just for these guys to screw around with the police rank. Unfortunately, Patlabor 2 will probably be looking at the same fate. The sound was very unbalanced. Some instances the music was overpowering the voices, such as at 1'16'', assaulting in the Ark. Ohta's voice is muffled out quite a bit with the sound effects, and I don't recall it being this quiet in the Manga release. Other parts, you can barely hear the music. At the pizza parlor, the cheesy, but loveable, 80's background music is so faint that I tried to hear that more than Noa and Asuma's conversation. With that pointed out, the archives book is my dream come true. 148 some pages doesn’t seem like a lot, but the content there is just mind blowing and allows the reader to appreciate and look at more closely what the movie is pointing out. I found that the first few times I watched the film, I tend to doze off during the E Hoba searching parts, but after seeing that this part of the film isn’t concentrating so much of searching for him, but depicting to both to the detectives and the audience why Mr E Hoba set his cunning and devious plan into motion. Seeing the run down areas of a 1999 Tokyo in animated form was both a treat and yet at the same time, felt nostalgic. All in all, this was a damn expensive piece of Patlabor goods. #06076 btw...LOL. |
Mwahahaha, it's finally here~
http://staff.gamingforce.com/qwarky/IMG411.jpg Arrived earlier than Amazon predicted, and didn't even got stuck in customs. <3 <3 <3 our postal service for random toll grabs. Watching this in a sec so bad. |
Win.
You did have a nice low number. Whomever gets 0001 or 9999 or even 10000/10000, those numbers win major Ingrams. Qwarky may not get his hands on the MG Plastic Ingram, however, he might have a shot at the Kaiydo Revoltech AV-98 Ingram =0. Due out this September. EDIT: LOL I love my mail man: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i6...tlaborLOVE.jpg WIN. |
I'm glad I found this topic. Patlabor is definitely my favorite anime franchise. I was wondering if there was an exact release date for the Kaiyodo Revoltech AV-98 Ingram yet. I've been looking around, but havent had any luck in finding a date.
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I've seen several different dates, most of them in the second half of September. On a related note, does anyone know what kind of material these Revoltechs are made of? Is it harder plastic or is it the same, awefully soft and 'rubbery' kind that was used in the earlier Kaiyodo EVAs? (I really hated those. Why is there no Soul of Chogokin Ingram? :()
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To hell with the toys, HLJ finally got a new shipment of the Master Grade Kits man!
http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/jo...&entryid=11501 GOD DAMANAMNM! I paid $120 too much just for some damn plastic....;___; That's ....2 new PS2 games right there man! Or 1/3 of my college course. Okay fine, here's the dinky toy if you're interested, but it's no where near as AWESOME as my beloved MG Ingram. |
To be honest, I've always loved looking at detailed models, but I've never built one myself. For someone with no previous experience of model building, would it be very difficult to build one of those Master Grade Ingrams? I suppose since they snap-together and already painted, it wouldnt be too difficult for a beginner. :)
Also, if anyone is interested, there's a contest that Bandai Visual has started where you can win some promo items and a hardcover storyboards book that was released in Japan with the 15th anniv. DVDs. In order to enter you have to fill out a survey regarding the quality of the Honneamise releases. Unfortunately there's isn't a form where you can just select answer, you have to copy and paste the questions and write out answers in an email in send it in. Regardless, I'm still going to give it a shot. ;) If it's anything like the Japanese LE of Ghost in the Shell(packaging looks identical even up to the book), then the storyboard book will be pretty nice. http://www.bandaivisual.us/patlabor2/news.html |
I'd love all the MG ones, but unfortunately I gave up on model kits many years ago because I realised I sucked, so they'd just be a waste of money. More specifically I sucked at painting them, partly I guess because I didn't know the first thing about airbrushes or coats or how to make them look weathered and stuff and never bothered to find out (and of course to paint the body of an entire aircraft by hand = ugly.) I still have a couple of them on my shelf and looking at them almost makes me cry. :(
Double Post: Sent in my feedback to that survey, though I'm not eligible for the prizes (not that I wouldn't want a 'Luxurious sparkling poster' but I guess the storyboard books are the real prizes and I of course already have both of the translated ones.) Q and Spat, if you complete the survey make sure to mention the lack of the original 2.0 tracks in the audio section in order to prevent something similar happening to GunBuster. Also, I want more money. |
Blue, as in terms of runners and complexity of the kit, this is what you're looking at. If you want to do a good job, it'll take probably easily 40 hours worth to get everything nice and touched up.
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But, if you're still keen, I'll be doing a build up of the Ingram # 2 in my journal sometime. EDIT: I did the survey........oooooo...sparkely poster LOL. I did the survey and said some parts were good while others were lacking, and actually added my comments. I particularly noted that the sound wasn't clear, as well as the translation of Commander particularly irked me. |
Woo hoo!
Sup Patlabor Fans. http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...6A/DAWINNA.jpg :forgets to respond to email, DOH!: LOL Sparkling Poster. If it's signed by Yuuki himself, then DAMN! But of course not! |
Aw, I want a sparkling luxurious poster too... :(
I could be wrong, but to me there didn't seem to be whole lot of interest in the contest so it was probably easy for anyone eligible to win a prize. Too bad I wasn't. |
Makes me sad that still it's mainly me, Pyo, and Q chatting in this thread ;__;
As you can see, switched my av/sig set to Noa Izumi. At any rate, there was some talk in 2003 for a live action Patlabor. I really don't know what to say. http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3...3dpage1mz3.jpg http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/839...3dpage2iz1.jpg Why is that the ugliest Ingram in the world. |
Because this is the 21st century! Everything must be edgy and futuristic!
On a side note, I found torrents for the TV series and the 3 movies, so I'll be getting into Patlabor too here pretty soon. |
After watching the OVAs and TV series again just recently - last month, I say to start with the TV series instead of the OVAs - the OVAs just don't give enough back drop, in my mind, and may turn you off prematurely. Save the movies for last, of course. Where did you find this torrent?
Also, get ready to appreciate the most delicious anime police woman. See avatar |
All others pale in comparison to Kanuka. ;)
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