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Infernal Monkey Feb 3, 2009 04:55 AM

Sonic's Ultimate Mega Genesis Collection Drive
 

It's pretty much the same stuff that was on the PS2 SEGA Collection, except now they're back in PS3/360 form. You get these horrific 'HD' filters to make the games look like a toilet on your fancy TV. The filters are off by default though, so hurray for things! A handful of games have been thrown into outta space this time, but new ones join in. Including arcade and Master System games! Here is a list in a box!

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Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Alien Storm
Alien Syndrome (Arcade)
Altered Beast
Altered Beast (Arcade)
Bonanza Bros.
Beyond Oasis / The Story of Thor
Columns
Comix Zone
Congo Bongo (Arcade)
Decap Attack
Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine
Dynamite Headdy
E-SWAT: City Under Siege
Ecco the Dolphin
Ecco: The Tides of Time
Fantasy Zone (Arcade)
Fatal Labyrinth
Flicky
Gain Ground
Golden Axe
Golden Axe II
Golden Axe III
Golden Axe Warrior (Master Systerm)
Kid Chameleon
Phantasy Star (Master System)
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Ristar
Shining in the Darkness
Shining Force
Shining Force II: Ancient Sealing
Shinobi (Arcade)
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic & Knuckles
Sonic Spinball
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Space Harrier (Arcade)
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Thunder Blade
Vectorman 1
Vectorman 2
Zaxxon (Arcade)
No idea if Sonic 3 will be able to hook up with Knuckles and have a good time. This collection has been put together by Backbone Entertainment (previous hits include Sonic Rivals and Brooktown High: Senior Year) so we can probably expect some true quality 100% go team. For some reason Australia is getting an exclusive pre-order bonus;

http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/image...a-lp-offer.gif
jdfhdfdfkjdfh

The rest of the world gets to pay less for the actual game. $30 US is pretty good considering they cost about $40,000 each on the Virtual Console. Do you guys think Cloud would win in a fight with a Tonka Truck.

Chaotic Feb 3, 2009 04:58 AM

If this isn't gonna put the biggest dent in someone's backlog.

That pre-order gift is awesome though. :mad:

The unmovable stubborn Feb 3, 2009 05:06 AM

oh, boy, vinyl

at last we can hear the Vectorman soundtrack with all the rich warm ambiance of the original studio sessions

digital audio just destroys so much of the experience

Infernal Monkey Feb 3, 2009 05:13 AM

It's actually pretty clever considering most Mega Drive music sounds like it was put together by people scratching records.

It's just missing the free 'cat caught on a fence'.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 3, 2009 05:17 AM

So there IS proper nearest neighbour scaling? I haven't been keeping up but I was under the impression that the scaling was fudged even if you turn the diarrhea filter off.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Feb 3, 2009 06:08 AM

I've already ordered this as it happens, mainly so the missus can play Shining Force.

IF ONLY I LIVED IN AUSTRALIA THOUGH I'D GET THAT NEAT RECORD. NOT SURE IF IT WOULD FIT IN MY CD PLAYER MIND YOU.

OmagnusPrime Feb 3, 2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pick a name and stick with it, Skills. (Post 678628)
So there IS proper nearest neighbour scaling? I haven't been keeping up but I was under the impression that the scaling was fudged even if you turn the diarrhea filter off.

Yeah, that's an interesting question, as I imagine it's going to be the same deal as the current Sonic/Sonic 2 XBLA ports with their dodgy filter. Unfortunately, even though the filter look arse I found it slightly preferable at times to not having it on. I don't know, this might be one I grab when it drops in price a bit; even though it's value for money in terms of games/£, I've got plenty of other shit to be playing.

Tails Feb 3, 2009 06:11 PM

Hurp Derp 360 Achivement list.

Looks easy enough. ALSO OH SHIT FANTASY ZONE IN HUGE SIZE 8 TEXT. Obviously Infernal is trying to tell us something.

Hotobu Feb 3, 2009 11:18 PM

Great amount of games in the collection. I'm hoping they will be 2P live compatible beyond some BS leaderboards.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 4, 2009 01:08 AM

Don't count on it, the wording of the PR implies local only.

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Originally Posted by about four hundred retailers
# MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER OPTIONS. Play these classics together with a friend from the same console at home.

Doesn't matter that some of these are out on the XBLA already with integrated Live multi features, Sega's just trolling the shit out of us.

Infernal Monkey Feb 4, 2009 04:24 AM

Yeah, there's no onrine multiplayer at all.

Backbone Entertainment. :cmb:

No. Hard Pass. Feb 4, 2009 05:14 AM

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Phantasy Star (Master System)
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Shining Force
Shining Force II: Ancient Sealing
Worth it

Tails Feb 4, 2009 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OutRunner (Post 678785)
Don't count on it, the wording of the PR implies local only.



Doesn't matter that some of these are out on the XBLA already with integrated Live multi features, Sega's just trolling the shit out of us.

Ahahaha, man. MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER OPTIONS. local only bitch

Oh well. Who wants to play games with other people anyway. Certainly not Deni.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Feb 4, 2009 05:29 AM

According to Amazon, the UK version appears not to have embraced the "Sonic" moniker. Plus, it's only £25 so it's looking like quite a bargain compared to the price of XBLA or WiiWare titles.

I'm quite surprised by the achievement list. I was half expecting there to be 200 different 5 point achievements, several difficult ones for each game.

Jessykins Feb 4, 2009 06:26 AM

Looking at the achivement list finally got me the name of a game I thought was awesome back in the day but just couldn't remember now. Beyond Oasis. Holy fuck. I am buying this shit.

wvlfpvp Feb 4, 2009 09:30 AM

I'm still pissed that they're releasing this while I still own the 2/3s complete Sega Genesis Collection for the PS2. At least I'm not missing out on Achievements for playing Phantasy Star on that.

value tart Feb 4, 2009 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 678627)
It's actually pretty clever considering most Mega Drive music sounds like it was put together by people scratching records.

What were they scratching them with, wine glasses?

No. Hard Pass. Feb 4, 2009 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 678811)
Oh well. Who wants to play games with other people anyway. Certainly not Deni.

I want to sleep with other people. I want to drink with other people. Other people need to stay the fuck out of my video games.

wvlfpvp Feb 4, 2009 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tea. Earl Grey. Hot. (Post 678925)
I want to sleep with other people. I want to drink with other people. Other people need to stay the fuck out of my video games.

Other people includes guys, therefore DENI WANTS TO MANSEX.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 4, 2009 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 678929)
Other people includes guys, therefore DENI WANTS TO MANSEX.

All guys are other people.

Not all other people are guys.

Please learn logic and stop thinking just because I look like a Bear, that I want to have sex with you people.

(this goes for Ben, Wvlf, Mo0, Skills and all other faggots trying to get on my dick.)

value tart Feb 4, 2009 06:59 PM

Ew, I wouldn't hit that if you paid me to.

Fat people have standards, too, you know.

wvlfpvp Feb 4, 2009 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by House Hippo (Post 678937)
Ew, I wouldn't hit that if you paid me to.

Fat people have standards, too, you know.

What's Skills' excuse?

dagget Feb 4, 2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tea. Earl Grey. Hot. (Post 678810)
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Phantasy Star (Master System)
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Shining Force
Shining Force II: Ancient Sealing
Worth it

Phantasy Star IV upon release? $100. Phantasy Star IV with these collections? $30.

Totally worth it. Plus if the game has PSP remote play support, I can be an ever fatter ass and play this laying in bed. I'd gladly buy the collection again (have it for PS2 already) for that purpose.

Little Brenty Brent Brent Feb 4, 2009 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wvlfpvp (Post 678929)
Other people includes guys, therefore DENI WANTS TO MANSEX.

Deni only wants to have sex with common people.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 4, 2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Axelrod :punch: Axelrod (Post 678947)
Deni only wants to have sex with common people.

http://media.canada.com/5f4aa900-9e2...hatner0630.jpg

Krelian Feb 4, 2009 07:54 PM

Holy FUCK I want that record. I don't care a huge deal about the actual game (although I may well pick it up; got some good MD memories going on), but that disc must be MINE.

Why am I not Australian.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 4, 2009 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KrelEN (Post 678951)
Holy FUCK I want that record. I don't care a huge deal about the actual game (although I may well pick it up; got some good MD memories going on), but that disc must be MINE.

Why am I not Australian.

No criminal record.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...rimshot1ed.gif

Paco Feb 4, 2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tea. Earl Grey. Hot. (Post 678810)
Quote:

Phantasy Star (Master System)
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Shining Force
Shining Force II: Ancient Sealing
Worth it

Amen to that shit.

I already have more or less this collection on the PSP but this is an awesome value nonetheless. If anything, I might rent it just so I can get some achievements.

Infernal Monkey Feb 5, 2009 02:35 AM

SEGA's got the first record on eBay, it's pretty cheap!

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All proceeds of this auction will be donated to the Cancer Council of Australia
Cunts. :(

Skexis Feb 5, 2009 03:06 AM

I wish they'd put more arcade versions into these collections. The console versions look like they smeared jelly all over the sprites. I got that Genesis collection for PS2 thinking the Golden Axe titles might actually be fun to play, but the only thing good about them was how many laughs my friends got out of the magic effects.

"POWER OF....MIST."
"It's....it's gonna get you...."
"Just wait, you're going to be so muggy in a minute."

I mean, the graphics themselves aren't even the problem, but the flickering characters and crappy levels could be sidestepped by just using the arcade versions.

No. Hard Pass. Feb 5, 2009 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Skexis (Post 679036)
I wish they'd put more arcade versions into these collections. The console versions look like they smeared jelly all over the sprites. I got that Genesis collection for PS2 thinking the Golden Axe titles might actually be fun to play, but the only thing good about them was how many laughs my friends got out of the magic effects.

"POWER OF....MIST."
"It's....it's gonna get you...."
"Just wait, you're going to be so muggy in a minute."

I mean, the graphics themselves aren't even the problem, but the flickering characters and crappy levels could be sidestepped by just using the arcade versions.

Wouldn't really be the Genesis collection then, though.

Skexis Feb 5, 2009 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 679039)
Wouldn't really be the Genesis collection then, though.

Well, they could just as easily call it the Sega collection, like Capcom did. I mean, they put the arcade version of Altered Beast in there without any problems, so I don't understand why it's more difficult to get the others they have available on there.

fiercedeity Feb 8, 2009 06:59 AM

Another peddled collection of crap, they stuff this rubbish onto shelves once every few years, and people buy it, I just dont get it, with emulation as big as it is, there is no need to spend £40 on something that just wont offer that much playability. How many times are we gonna replay the first 3 levels of Sonic 3 before we realise that the game just wasnt that great, its a classic, yes, and was enjoyable back then, but now we only play them for nostalga. Its the new millenium equivalent of owning a Gramaphone.

DarkMageOzzie Feb 8, 2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by fiercedeity (Post 679696)
I just dont get it, with emulation as big as it is, there is no need to spend £40 on something that just wont offer that much playability.

Aside from the legality of it. Not as many people know about Emulation as you think, or maybe they're just too lazy to look. Not to mention alot of ROM sites take down certain games because they don't want to get sued.

Plus some people will buy just about anything if they think they can get easy achievements to pad their gamerscore.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Feb 8, 2009 03:18 PM

Yeah, sorry buddy. "But you can steal it!" isn't a valid excuse for not buying something. Neither is "It's old and therefore it sucks".

If you want to make a valid counterpoint to these retro collections, it's a fair bit easier to accuse them of not including a valid multiplayer component or say that certain titles in the collection are of questionable quality, but in all honesty that second point is kinda moot on this particular disc. Or that every other SEGA compilation has contained most of these are one point or another already. As a pure value/time equation this is hard to beat. =\

wvlfpvp Feb 8, 2009 03:42 PM

I just wish I hadn't already bought these on disc/on VC.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Feb 23, 2009 06:07 AM

Oh hey so I bought this on Friday, primarily so the missus could play Shining Force and I could play Phastasy Star.

The menu system between games is ok although annoyingly, you can't hold down a direction to scroll through the games, you have to press up or down once for each step. You can rate all the games from one to five though and sort them in order of preference so all the shit like Alex Kidd can get dumped to the bottom of the list.

There's a bit of info for each game and some "interesting" facts on each (Did you know that Tails' real name is Miles Prower, which is a pun on the phrase Miles per hour?) along with a picture of the North American box art and cartridge.

The games themselve initially load up in a square screen with a sort of themed border thing filling up the rest of the display on a widescreen tv but you can opt to stretch the whole display to 16:9 if you wish. The smoothing option is off by default but I can't say I could tell any difference between it being off and on anyway. You can use both the left stick and d-pad to control the games and choose which buttons are mapped to which Megadrive ones.

Achievements wise, some are hilariously easy (A monster 50 points for viewing all the artwork, all of which is unlocked from the start so you just spend five minutes scrolling through it all) and some, significantly harder (20,000 points on Columns easy mode is currently beyond me, as are some of the other score challenges) and there's an achievement for most of the games, some of which you'll probably only play once just for the achievement (Alex Kidd for example, collect $1,000 which you can do on the first screen which is lucky because unlike the amazing Master System Miracle World game, the one on here is utter toilet).

Getting the achievements generally unlocks various video interviews or arcade games so the OCD amongst you will have something to keep them busy. I think if you don't already own a lot of these games on console, this is worth the £20 odd it'll cost you. Certainly playing things like Sonic on a console is more fun that on an emulator (Although I do already have the PS2 Sonic collection) and playing through Shining Force is fun so far (Despite the retarded inventory system).

So whilst the lack of online multi-player is a fairly criminal oversight, this is a decent collection of games and worth it if you can find it cheap-ish, which should be pretty easy. If nothing else you could rent it for a couple of hundred really easy achievement points if that's your bag.

Additional Spam:
Alexx Kidd in Miracle World is a great game. Alex Kidd in fugly sidescrolling punching game with endless pointless rock-paper-scissors games and nasty controls in the Enchanted Castle isn't.

Additional Spam:
What the fuck happened to Skills' post?

Infernal Monkey Feb 25, 2009 04:45 AM

http://i40.tinypic.com/35m14ie.jpg

Unlocked Fantasy Zone and Space Harrier as soon as possible. I like how SEGA didn't bother changing anything on the disc to reflect the whole PAL Mega Drive thing. It's all Genesis this, Genesis that. Genesis does. :guitarist:

Also what the fuck I'm addicted to Flicky now. Fuck Flicky.

( :guitarist: )

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Feb 25, 2009 06:04 AM

Ha ha, Flicky's annoying as fuck but is strangely addictive.


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