24: Season 7 Discussion Thread - Mondays 9/8C on FOX
 

24 SEASON 7

Monday Nights 9/8C on FOX


Official Site -http://www.fox.com/24





SEASON 7 INFO

Plot:

Following the events of 24 Redemption, Jack Bauer (Kiefer Sutherland) now stands trial in front of a congressional committee for his past actions. CTU has been disbanded, and the setting has moved from Los Angeles to our nation's capital in Washington D.C. The stakes are raised as new events emerge at the begining of Day 7 that will change everything we know about 24. Meanwhile the day gets even more interesting for Jack Bauer when Tony Almeida (Carlos Bernard) a former colleague who we last saw dying in the arms of Jack Bauer in Season 5 turns up alive and well. With a national security crisis emerging, it is up to newly elected President Allison Taylor (Cherry Jones) alongside her First Husband Henry Taylor (Colm Feore), and Cheif of Staff Ethan Kanin (Bob Gunton) to control things on their end with the help of a FBI Task force that includes agents Reneee Walker (Annie Wersching), Janis Gold (Janeane Garofalo), Larry Moss (Jeffrey Nordling), and Sean Hillinger (Rhys Coiro). Although CTU is no longer around, Chloe O'Brian (Mary Lynn Rajskub) and Bill Buchannan (James Morrison) also return for another intense and shocking season.

Starring:

Kiefer Sutherland (Jack Bauer)
Cherry Jones (President Allison Taylor)
Annie Wersching (FBI Agent Renee Walker)
Colm Feore (First Husband Henry Taylor)
Mary Lynn Rajskub (Chloe O'Brian)
James Morrison (Bill Buchanan)
Bob Gunton (White House Chief of Staff Ethan Kanin)
Jeffrey Nordling (FBI Agent Larry Moss)
Rhys Coiro (FBI Agent Sean Hillinger)
with
Janeane Garofalo (FBI Agent Janis Gold)
and
Carlos Bernard (Tony Almeida)

Just a note, the regularly scheduled time for the show is Monday nights at 9/8c, not 8/7c (that's when House will come on).

As much as I am extremely excited too, we already have one of these threads!

Well I specifically noted it Redemption and Pre-season 7 discussion expecting there would be more discussion about them then there actually was.

Going to have to change this thread title come Tuesday though.

I can't contain my excitement!

LOL. I just got done watching the extended version of Redemption. I actually only noticed two little scenes that werent on the TV version even though they said it was 10 extra minutes. . Anyway going to watch with the commentary before Sunday.

The presidents' sons girlfriend has mole written all over her!

They better have more original storylines than that.

Heh. Oh by the way, I took your advice and started to watch The Shield, just couldn't get into it. I just found it boring to be honest, the main guy annoyed me too!

Boring? IMPOSSIBLE! Started means what? One ep, two eps? Anyways the show probably has the biggest shocking moment and unboring moment in the first episode than any show ever. I just don't get it.

There must be something strange going on here.

By the way the show improves every season.

No reactions yet? All I have to say is, tomorrow's "This is gonna hurt" has to be one of the best Jack lines ever.

That is a spoiler dude.

The 2 hour premiere kept me enticed throughout, but it wasn't mind-blowing.

Pissed off I forgot it was this weekend, I tuned in around 20 minutes into the second hour. Can someone give me a brief synopsis of what happened so far? 24 usually starts with a pretty big bang, so :mad: at missing that.

Also, yay at me maybe being able to watch this season since I don't have any homeworks due on Tuesday mornings this semester.

just go to releaselog (google it) search for 24 --> click comments and download it.

Good first two episodes. I couldn't help but laugh at a couple of moments though, when the chopper flew past with Larry in, it just felt so cheesy, oh and when the flight control guy said something important to the guy behind him at the start of the second episode, and he nodded and casually walked off, rather than running off quickly. You would expect him to do that if planes are no longer under their control.

Overall, it was a solid two hours, but there was one major flaw that stood out to me. The FBI is sweeping the building for the sniper, and they send one lone agent to check out the dark basement? Yes, he was working for the bad guys, but the FBI still thought he was on the up and up. The other agents had video feeds and were working in teams, but for the one place that would be easy to hide in, they send one guy.

Also, I'm almost positive that the exterior shot before Jack and the FBI agent go in to interview Schector (or whatever his name was), was shot a few blocks from where I work. I'm pretty sure Naylor Road is in Maryland, and not in a neighborhood where anyone would want to have an office.

I was also laughing at the basement moment, it was pretty ridiculous! I was hoping though, now I think this would have a good twist, that the guy who let him go was actually an FBI agent, but all the FBI had orders (OK, maybe not all) to let the guy go if they found him, therefore making them more likely to follow them back to Tony.

The premiere wasn't bad, but it wasn't great either. That's not necessarily a bad thing though, as S6 started off great and then went down the shitter, so maybe this season will do the opposite. The only real exciting part for me was the end of the second hour with Jack chasing Tony on the boat, with everything else ranging from pretty cool to mediocre (the presidential stuff in particular is kinda meh so far).

I have to say though, I'm really liking Agent Walker so far. She's definitely one of the strongest female characters the show has had (especially that's not evil), making her a believable partner for Jack.

I want to love this season, believe me. But I just don't think I can. I just can't get past the fact that they completely abandoned the "real time" aspect but pretend they haven't. Not that is matters much, but no matter how much I try to ignore it, my mind just can stop going back to it. It took only 8 minutes for that guy to be kidnapped from his vehicle, thrown into the back of a van, driven to a warehouse somewhere and create a device that breaks the firewall!? It always takes only a couple of minutes to drive from location to location at 8:00?!? The president of the United States just happens to find out about a kidnapping of someone just minutes after it happens before any connection to a national threat is even revealed?

I can go on and on, but I won't. I'm disappointed with this show. I want to give up it, but since I absolutely loved the 1st season so much, I just can't give up hope.

Did they mess up with bleaching Bill's hair or something? He looks like a goddamned anime character.

Tonight was pretty good, though I did miss the first 15 minutes since I didn't know there was an 8:00 episode. The acting was a little weak (Jenine Garofolo and the tech dude that seems like he's a mole especially).



It's neat seeing the filming being done in DC since the locations are a bit more recognizable than LA where it's ::generic city block::. The scene where <GUY> met <GIRL> with the Jefferson Memorial across the water is right on a pretty popular path to walk along; makes me sad I didn't go along it last time I was there.

Also, when was this season filmed? It looks like it was done quite a while ago with how green everything there looks.

RR your spoiler did not work and I am pretty sure much of the monument stuff is CG, as the executive producers stated on the Redemption commentary. These early episodes probably at least a year ago were filmed. Mostly in L.A.

And the third episode was one of the best ever in my opinion. 4th decent. Overall pretty good so far, so if it can maintain the intensity of the 3rd and 4th, I will be quite pleased.

And it seems to me that the SS guy watching the First Gentleman is part of the conspiracy. And the FBI guy who called in the reroute the FBI mole. And the Sec. of State (black guy), a conspirator as well since he didn't want the invasion. Although they could flip it on me.

oh and the only thing that really bothered me was Jack driving through (bricks? or concrete). It couldn't have been concrete, because that would be highly unrealistic no? wouldnt the car just demolish itself if it was?

I liked episodes 3 and 4. I liked how they didn't show Jack and the others preparing for the assault, and then suddenly the pace quickens at the end and they come bursting in. I can't say I like the look of the next episode though, I have a feeling the whole air into the safe room might drag on a bit, but we'll see.

Some other thoughts. I feel Jack too readily joined forces with Tony, there was only a brief bit of anger when he found out he really was a bad guy at first, then all was good and they're talking happily again. Also, I hope the President's son storyline quickens up, as I am enjoying what i'm seeing so far. I don't think Agent 'Gedge' is a bad guy, he was just observing what was happening on the bench. Oh, and talking of his girlfriend, she seems all panicky now, but when we first saw her chatting on the phone at her workplace in episode 1, it didn't look like she had a care in the world. I thought the stuff in the hospital with Renee was dumb. /end random thoughts :)

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I recognised it from Fallout 3! :D

My major peeve so far, and this is only because I work in DC, is that the exterior shots don't match actual landmarks. The bit I mentioned from Sunday was ok, because it didn't affect the plot, but the escape from the FBI building just wouldn't have happened the way it was shown. The actual FBI building is quite odd looking, built somewhat like a fortress:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...building_b.JPG

You can't really tell from this photo, but as far as I know, there is no above ground parking. The entire building is surrounded by a large pit (not unlike a moat), and there are almost no doors or windows on the ground floor. In short, Jack could not have escaped as he did.

Yeah and there were many inaccurate locations in LA too when the show was taking place in that area. The show has never tried to depict actual locations in the most realistic detail.

Did they really have to squeeze Chloe and Bill Buchanon back into the show? Not that I hated their characters or anything, but I actually looked forward to maybe not seeing them this season since CTU is gone. But I wouldn't even care though if they didn't bring them in in such a cheesy way, with the whole secret undercover detective squad angle.

And now Chloe has become some kind of super-hacker, as in she can hack into the FBI servers in a matter of seconds from a laptop in the back of a warehouse somewhere. And she is so fast a computer, that when Jack just happens to refer to a guy, she pull up a picture and a whole profile of the guy in literally 1/4 of a second. The implausibility of this show makes me laugh so much, and I can't tell if I'm watching a drama or a comedy a lot of the time.

I imagine Jack and (maybe) Tony are trying to be careful who they're shooting at the moment? The escape from FBI for instance, the security guards were trying to kill them but they were only drawing fire, right, because the guards are essentially good guys? Same with the assault on the Africa place at the end of episode 4, notice Jack is second going in, Emmerson does all the killing. One thing I hated about season 6 was the assault on the Russian embassy, no way would the Russian president order the assault on his own embassy, killing a load of his people (the russian guards)

That is would it seemed like. Jack would never do such. At last resort would shoot them where they could easily survive.

Not like it matters, the Chinese will blame him for any deaths anyways. :tpg:

Somebody explain something to me –

Can Air Traffic Control communicate with all of the planes? I thought the whole point of hijacking the CIP device was to cancel all transmissions with the airborne planes, yet ATC somehow managed to come up with some queue system for grounding all of the planes in circulation. It also seems like the FBI analysts’ wife called him from one of the phones that are built in to the passenger seats with no problem…? Do the pilots in the skies know that ATC transmissions have been compromised?

Good episode, the end stinger was brilliant. I'm not so sure about the silent clock, I love it when it's used for emotion (no, i'm not one of the 'omg they're not dead so why silent clock' people), but still, i'm not too sure if it fit here.

My main annoyance is with the trailers though. I'm not fussed that they spoiled some things for next week, but I am fussed that they put in scenes in the trailer for this episode that weren't even shown, like Jack at the Whitehouse. I really hope the writers/whoever it is who makes the trailers, don't assume that just because they're shot every episode, they can use whatever scenes they want in trailers to add suspense. I found myself confused in the last 10 minutes because I just couldn't work out how the Jack - 'ask around' scene would have had any time to fit in, and well, turns out it wasn't in it anyway. It's also the second time we've seen Ethan close the curtains in trailers, and we also saw Henry Tailor run across the road in trailers for 2 different episodes (although these are minor points compared to my main one)

Wo wo, calm down! I can't keep up with all this rivetting 24 discussion!

Did you seriously just bump a thread for the express purpose of complaining that it was quiet

Terrorists plan to attack America, and only Jack Bauer can torture enough brown people to locate and disarm the bomb in my rectum.

Nice modding there sir.

BRADY DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR MODERATING THIS THREAD!

THERE'S NO TIME!

WHERE'S THE DISCUSSION!?

*slap*

TELL ME OR SO HELP ME GOD, WHERE'S THE DISCUSSION

*shoots a kneecap*

A hypothermic compound to make someone look dead for ten minutes? Seriously?

This is more ridiculous than that woman in Bold and Beautiful getting kidnapped by a Tunisian sultan. Twice.

They've come far from the entertaining camp silliness of season five (the best for the series) and sunk a new low for television history. I'll have to keep watching this.

I've completely given up on trying find logic and plausibility in anything in this show. It's the only way I can enjoy the show.

That was last week. Are you a week behind where you are or something?

Actually, I seem to be two weeks behind. I watch them like 2-3 in a row whenever I remember the series exists and download all the episodes I've missed.

It's an "okay" season at best. I have DVR recording episodes and I don't scramble to see brand new eps like I do for House or Burn Notice :x

Some parts have really made me roll my eyes, though. Case-in-point, the silly "I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT LAST NIGHT~ :3:" line. Ugh, fucking Christ. Why the hell can't this show get past office-level drama.

Come on now that was like 5 seconds total. Frankly, the office drama has been significantly toned down this year from the last few seasons. However, that could change for sure. Anyway this is leaps and bounds over season 6 and 4 so far for me.

Found this on youtube. Funny spoof (I guess it can be called that) of 24.

YouTube - 24 - Jack and Tony's Day Off

xman25

Ok I liked this last episode, but not as much as last weeks.

Two things bothered me. One they totally skipped any sense of real time with the paramedics at the start of the ep. They could have at least held them off for two minutes, but they were there literally seconds after Jack said get an ambulance.

Two, how did Sean, the mole send a warrant before he got Janis to tap into the feed for him? Did he just guess what was going on? Am I missing something here. This really really bothered me, and knocked down the episode a ton.

But you forget that the previously on 24 happens as part of the episode, or so I believe. If you look at the 24 time at the end of the first segment, and then look at the playtime they are the same, showing that the previously on 24 segment happens in the 24 time.

No I am pretty certain that is not the case as Jack Bauer always announces the time after the Previously on... segment. Therefore, the time starts then.

But the time never stops since it is "supposed" to be real time. So technically it is 2-3 minutes after the previous episode ends. The "previously on 24" segments cut into show time just like commercials do.

But I agree things do happen WAY too fast to be real time, it annoys the hell out of me. Everything seems to take place in 1 square mile.

God this season has been high quality throughout so far. Great action, great writing (besides more moles), awesome lines from Jack, good acting all around, good beginning villain, Callery's score is doing a fine job, and the 24 regulars (Buchanan, Chloe, Tony) make it much more interesting. Tony in particular just seems to make it that much better as he did in the first 5 seasons.

Highlights of this week definitely included the Jack/Renee argument, and the final scene Jack and Tony on the Washington steps overlooking the Washington Monument.

Lesser highlights included predictable grief-stricken woman in wheelchair, yet another "Are you even human Jack how can you be so callous" moment, and the hilariously generic "Washington DC Festival".

Quinn's good...Bauer's good too.


<3 Voight

Hodges: "They're six-year olds, Greg. They need to eat their carrots". [[laugh]]

Tony: "It's two against ten."
Jack: "Two against *nine*."

Another great episode. Loving this season. Only major complaint was the white house episode.

Too bad no GFFers seem to watch this anymore, but its not crazy since this GFF is not the GFF of old. Probably all watching anime - Megalith

I love Hodges, and I think Jon Voight is going to be a memorable villain. I just hope he gets away so we can see him in another season. As much as the show is already "unrealistic", it would be nice to see a villain escape or get away to make it more "realistic".

Well Mandy has gotten away three times. From Gaines, from Palmer Assasination, and from Season 4 events. But she is not a main villain.

Spoiler tagged to be courteous of time zone.

This was a pretty good episode, though I have to say it was weird for them to bring back a minor character from Season 3 (Dr. Sunny Mercer) for a role that could have essentially been played by anyone. I guess it was really weird because they didn't really make any reference to it at all (I'm pretty sure Jack should know her, but you wouldn't know that by watching this episode), and you wouldn't even know unless you had watched Season 3.

I assume that Starkwood has a cure stocked somewhere that probably took them quite some time to develop. And since this bio weapon kills within 1 or 2 days, the authorities probably won't be able to develop one that quickly. And someone will find the cure and give it to Jack and whoever else gets infected. Just my guess really.

Jack will never die, he is immune to all illness, disease, and aging. And he's been awake for over 16 hours already and has not yawned even once. As a matter of fact, every single character on the show as been awake for over 16 hours and have shown no sign of being tired.

Definitely one of the best seasons ever. Right up there with 1 and 2.

I enjoyed this season so much!
I hope they will do a PRERELEASE episode next season like they did this season :)

Does anybody know if a soundtrack for season 7 is going to be released? Many of the last episodes had some good very tracks.

I stopped after the White House ep where they

Might download the remainder of the series and watch it. It hasn't been too great so far, though.

So I did the stupidest thing ever and took a nap before the show came on. Somehow I missed my alarm going off and ended up missing the whole first hour, and thus couldn't watch the second hour. Normally I'd have just downloaded it by now and have watched it, but since this season is already out on DVD/Blu-ray (and since we all know I'd be buying it anyway) I'll just head out and pick that up today and watch the last two eps sometime later today or tomorrow.

Wait, it's already out on Blu-Ray? Holy crap.

Yep, just picked that shit up at Best Buy today for $45, which ain't that bad at all for a new release of a full TV season. I guess since they actually had this season finished before it started airing they could release the season set as soon as the finale aired.

And gaming, the back of the box mentions something about the music of 24 under the special features section, but I don't know if they mean a behind the scenes feature about how it's made or an actual soundtrack for the season. I'll check it out sometime soon and see.

I think Callery is on one of the commentaries.

Wow, I actually finished the season. Haven't been commenting much, since nothing new after my previous post came up. Luckily I hadn't read any news about there maybe being an eighth season, so I was not sure of Jack's fate after he got infected.

I can't understand how Jon Voight could do such a horrible job at acting that even tv actors weren't as phony as his performance was. He used to be good at being a slimy cuntface, but failed big time now. And Rajskub and Sutherland as hilariously bad as always.

Modern soap opera is alive.

Kim would be so much better as the lead character of the show. At least she isn't written off as a complete retard most of the time (though she has her brain fart moments too).