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DarkMageOzzie Nov 12, 2008 10:40 AM

Sega Ultimate Genesis Collection
 
Apparently coming early 2009 for the PS3 and X-Box 360.

Included Games
Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle
Alien Storm
Altered Beast
Beyond Oasis
Bonanza Bros.
Columns
Comix Zone
Decap Attack starring Chuck D. Head
Dr. Robotnik's MBM
Dynamite Headdy
Ecco the Dolphin
Ecco II: The Tides of Time
E-SWAT
Fatal Labyrinth
Flicky
Gain Ground
Golden Axe I
Golden Axe II
Golden Axe III
Kid Chameleon
Phantasy Star II
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium
Ristar
Shining in the Darkness
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic and Knuckles
Sonic Spinball
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Thunder Blade
Vectorman
Vectorman 2

Sources
IGN: SEGA Unveils Mega Drive Ultimate Collection
SEGA :: GAMES

I now suddenly feel very stupid for downloading Shining Force 1 and 2 on the Wii.

K_ Takahashi Nov 12, 2008 10:48 AM

Come on, for a next-gen I would expect twice this list, but this is all quality so I cannot complain.

Lukage Nov 12, 2008 10:51 AM

And for those of us who already got anything there worthwhile, its no big deal.

Sonic Mega Collection has a bunch of those, and if any of us really wanted any of the titles there, we'd have them already. You honestly want three Golden Axe games?

map car man words telling me to do things Nov 12, 2008 10:53 AM

Oh lawd, watch them remove Streets of Rage again for a T rating.

nuttyturnip Nov 12, 2008 10:53 AM

Aren't there supposed to be some bonus games they haven't announced yet? Perhaps things we haven't seen a zillion times before in previous collections?

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Nov 12, 2008 10:54 AM

No Toe Jam & Earl? No Earthworm Jim? No Landstalker?

Massive FAIL

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 10:57 AM

Not a bad collection, certainly not "ultimate" for some folks. I gather it might be because of licensing or oversight at this point. No Sega collection would be ultimate to me without Gunstar Heroes, but this is still potentially cool depending on how they handle the release.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Nov 12, 2008 11:10 AM

What's the betting the achievement list involves finishing every single game in the collection without dying or something equally ridiculous?

It's not a bad collection by any means and depending on how it's priced I might pick it up. There's a few things on there I'd be interested in revisiting and I'm sure there are enough to make it more worthwhile getting this than paying for the XBLA versions. I could always just download the emulated ROMs I suppose but it's just not the same is it.

It would mean I have about 4 different versions of Sonic knocking about though.

Miles Nov 12, 2008 11:16 AM

I'm glad I never bought any genesis games on the virtual console. Honestly, the virtual console is a huge ripoff to me when it comes to anything but n64 games. To buy 4 of those games off that list on the virtual console would be 32 dollars which would buy you this collection of 30 plus games. Of course some of it is crap, but it's still not a bad deal.

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 658812)
but it's just not the same is it.

I know it's splitting hairs, but really... emulated or on a disc, it just really never will be and I'm not sure it's the original games that draw me in. I've been there and done that on a lot of these releases. I was half tempted to wish Sega would just bring over the Phantasy Star 1 and 2 remakes that were done on the PS2. I get the point of these releases, just not sure if I'd care to bother. It's not bad a collection to me, at this point it just is.

OmagnusPrime Nov 12, 2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin (Post 658812)
It's not a bad collection by any means and depending on how it's priced I might pick it up.

This. If priced correctly there'd be little against picking this up, though I agree with Crash that there's some obvious omissions that deserve to be there.

DarkMageOzzie Nov 12, 2008 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 658807)
No Earthworm Jim?

But Earthworm Jim wasn't made by Sega. I understand it was on the Genesis but it was also on SNES and obviously wasn't made by Sega.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Nov 12, 2008 02:11 PM

Who cares? They can't throw around the word "ultimate" and then fail to include Earthworm Jim. It's strictly principle.

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 02:13 PM

Crash missed the portion where it reads "Sega" in the title. Apply a little blind principle... Crash talking on the internet again. Just leave it be, Ozzie.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Nov 12, 2008 02:24 PM

Earthworm Jim was available for the Sega Genesis. I believe that is enough of a connection for anybody. It is a standard of the English language; you do not use the word "ultimate" and fail to deliver an experience which can immediately be proven inferior.

(I just want Earthworm Jim. Is that so blatantly wrong? But my point on Toe Jam & Earl definitely stands here. Why the hell was that one omitted?)

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 02:37 PM

Look, Crash, you were done the moment you uttered "principle." I know, without your explanation, what you were getting at. I'm pointing out that you look stupid for doing so. You're smart enough to know "Sega" meant "their properties" as far as "Ultimate" experience goes.

This is me saying "you're not clever." Yeah, Earthworm Jim wasn't in it. Sega probably can't put it in because of licensing deals. There's someone out there saying that "John Madden Football" or any other awesome Sega Sports titles aren't in this game and thus this is not an "ultimate collection" and they'd have more of an argument than you do right now... if your comment were even meant to be taken that seriously.

If I have to take a page from Pang's book: Don't.

Tails Nov 12, 2008 02:45 PM

Don't what? Object to them not including a damn good game in an otherwise lackluster (seen it before) collection? Can we be real here.

In fact, this more or less looks like the Sega Genesis Collection for the PS2/PSP but with a few more shit swapped titles in it.

EDIT: LMAO it is the SGC with a game or two added. See for yourself.

Also, lol. "Crash I see what you're saying but u = stupid lololol". For the love of god, Rotor.

The unmovable stubborn Nov 12, 2008 02:51 PM

Oh for fuck's sake is it that hard to understand the distinction between "Sega properties" and "games that have appeared on Sega consoles"?

Final Fantasy IV was pretty good on the SNES guys I guess we'd better put Golbez in the next Smash Brothers

(Except that could actually happen since Nintendo has some clout unlike Sega ha ha!)

Tails Nov 12, 2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 658866)
Oh for fuck's sake is it that hard to understand the distinction between "Sega properties" and "games that have appeared on Sega consoles"?

Final Fantasy IV was pretty good on the SNES guys I guess we'd better put Golbez in the next Smash Brothers

Oh I fully understand why EJ couldn't make an appearance, being it was just released on the Virtual Console meaning Nintendo likely has its grubby hands on it, I'm just saying there's no reason to be an enormous dick because Crash suggested it.

(If only Nintendo could use that clout to get good games! Haha!)

map car man words telling me to do things Nov 12, 2008 02:55 PM

But one of the composers of Brawl worked on Xenogears so maybe we will get Citan as a downloadable character or at least Sora because he's still Squaresoft

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 02:57 PM

Waiting for Tails in "Meet the Faggot" in Team Fortress 2.

"Cry some more. Heh heh. Cry some more."

Tails Nov 12, 2008 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 658870)
Waiting for Tails in "Meet the Faggot" in Team Fortress 2.

"Cry some more. Heh heh. Cry some more."

Waiting for Rotor in "Posts that Don't Suck" in GFF.

But I heard the release date for that is like 2012 or something. :(

The unmovable stubborn Nov 12, 2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRAN TURISMO 3 OH MAN UNBELIEVABLE (Post 658868)
Oh I fully understand why EJ couldn't make an appearance

Is it because Earthworm Jim has fuck-all to do with Sega beyond "this title did incidentally appear on the Genesis along with 400 other platforms"

Oh

I think that might be it

I am just kind of wildly guessing here though

Admittedly it is kind of a stupid misleading title for the collection but did anybody think for a second they were going to round up every fucking game that ever got pressed onto a Genesis cart

Haunting starring Polterguy, fuck yeah, I can't wait

SouthJag Nov 12, 2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime (Post 658825)
This. If priced correctly there'd be little against picking this up, though I agree with Crash that there's some obvious omissions that deserve to be there.

29.99, by the way.

Tails Nov 12, 2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 658873)
Is it because Earthworm Jim has fuck-all to do with Sega beyond "this title did incidentally appear on the Genesis along with 400 other platforms"

you must be some kind of mind reader.

ALTHOUGH if you're going to get Technical, it was also on the Game Gear and Master System. :3:

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 03:04 PM

Aww, that's so precious of Tails. Telling me not to suck while derailing the thread over white knighting a man who wasn't being attacked in the first place.

Tails Nov 12, 2008 03:05 PM

Actually I was only trying to point out that they were rehashing a collection, is that a crime now?

value tart Nov 12, 2008 03:06 PM

We're currently on Step 4 of Rotor's Super Awesome Not Transparent At All Trolling Guide:

Step 1: Make a really douche statement
Step 2: Wait for someone to reply
Step 3: Accuse that person of trying too hard
Step 4: ???

Tails Nov 12, 2008 03:07 PM

Step 5: Profit!

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 03:07 PM

Is that what we're calling the "Mo0 and Tails don't get it in one step" thing these days?

The unmovable stubborn Nov 12, 2008 03:08 PM

Person A: "Why isn't a game not published by SEGA in this SEGA collection?"

Person B: ""Because that makes no fucking sense, what the hell, why would it be?"

Person C: "TROLL!"

mo0 when will you stop hurting yourself and others :(

Tails Nov 12, 2008 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 658884)
Person A: "Why isn't a game not published by SEGA in this SEGA collection?"

Person B: ""Because that makes no fucking sense, what the hell, why would it be?"

Person C: "TROLL!"

mo0 when will you stop hurting yourself and others :(

I think I see where he gets his encouragement from, at least.

You should stop that, Pang.

The unmovable stubborn Nov 12, 2008 03:12 PM

Mo0 never listens to me anymore

He just hangs around with his delinquent friends and takes stupid pills all day

Mo0 I done all I can for you and this is how you pay me back

I have no son

Rotorblade Nov 12, 2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rotorblade (Post 658858)
If I have to take a page from Pang's book: Don't.

Tails r slow

value tart Nov 12, 2008 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 658887)
Mo0 never listens to me anymore

He just hangs around with his delinquent friends and takes stupid pills all day

Mo0 I done all I can for you and this is how you pay me back

I have no son

YOU CAN'T CONTROL ME

I'M 22 GODDAMN YEARS OLD I CAN DO WHAT I WANT

STOP TRYING TO RUIN MY LIFE MY LIFE IS JUST FINE

SuperSonic Nov 12, 2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 658807)
No Toe Jam & Earl? No Earthworm Jim? No Landstalker?

Massive FAIL

No Mutant League Football/Hockey or Road Rash 1/2/3 either. This is far from ultimate.

Edit: Wait...at the bottom of the list: *Unlockable games to be revealed soon!
I'm willing to bet it'll be Sonic Special Stages, Sonic 2 & Knuckles, Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

The unmovable stubborn Nov 12, 2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSonic (Post 658931)
No Mutant League Football/Hockey or Road Rash 1/2/3 either. This is far from ultimate.

GET OUT

서보경 Nov 12, 2008 06:38 PM

Oh Em Gee, I am really syched for this. Sounds freaking epic, are you sure the list is... this short? Seems lil bit short for this gen >.> but can't complain.

Celisasu Nov 12, 2008 08:27 PM

Comparing this list to the PS2 Collection. Anything I starred was in the PS2 version.

Alex Kidd in the Enchanted Castle*
Alien Storm
Altered Beast*
Beyond Oasis
Bonanza Bros.*
Columns*
Comix Zone*
Decap Attack starring Chuck D. Head*
Dr. Robotnik's MBM
Dynamite Headdy
Ecco the Dolphin*
Ecco II: The Tides of Time*
E-SWAT
Fatal Labyrinth
Flicky*
Gain Ground*
Golden Axe I*
Golden Axe II*
Golden Axe III*
Kid Chameleon*
Phantasy Star II*
Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom*
Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium*
Ristar*
Shining in the Darkness
Shining Force
Shining Force 2
Shinobi III: Return of the Ninja Master*
Sonic 3D Blast
Sonic and Knuckles
Sonic Spinball
Sonic the Hedgehog*
Sonic the Hedgehog 2*
Sonic the Hedgehog 3
Streets of Rage
Streets of Rage 2
Streets of Rage 3
Super Thunder Blade*
Vectorman*
Vectorman 2*


Games not on the list but that were on the PS2 Collection:

Ecco Jr.
Shadow Dancer: The Secret of Shinobi
Sword of Vermilion
Virtua Fighter 2


So we lose four games(of which Sword of Vermilion is probably the only real loss although some people might miss Shadow Dancer as well) but in return gain 16 other games, most of which are good ones(Streets of Rage series, Sonic 3, Shining Force series, Shining in the Darkness, etc).

For a sec there I was thinking "Isn't Beyond Oasis a Game Gear game?" but then remembered that the Game Gear had Defender of Oasis, not Beyond Oasis. Is Beyond Oasis part of the same series as Defender or is it just a coincidence that they have similar names and are both by Sega?

If this is $29.99 I'll be very tempted to get it. On one hand it has a lot of repeat games for me but on the other it has a lot of stuff I don't have but really want(especially the Shining Force series).

Grilled Carrots Nov 12, 2008 10:39 PM

No Sonic CD = No sell... again.

Seriously, What's their problem?

No. Hard Pass. Nov 12, 2008 10:48 PM

Pity it isn't a nice, updated, sexy Shining Force II. That would have made me damn happy.

Also, concerning toejam & earl

Quote:

According to ToeJam & Earl Productions, they were going to include ToeJam and Earl and its sequel, ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron as well, but Sega wasn't very fond of the series, so they included Sonic the Hedgehog and its first sequel, Sonic the Hedgehog 2 as well as Flicky, Ristar, and Comix Zone instead, to make up for the emulation issues of the Playstation 2 version of Sonic Mega Collection Plus which failed.
Also, to add to the rage: WHERE MY GREENDOG AT.

map car man words telling me to do things Nov 13, 2008 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celisasu (Post 658960)
For a sec there I was thinking "Isn't Beyond Oasis a Game Gear game?" but then remembered that the Game Gear had Defender of Oasis, not Beyond Oasis. Is Beyond Oasis part of the same series as Defender or is it just a coincidence that they have similar names and are both by Sega?

Beyond Oasis is the stupid american rename for Story of Thor. Saturn got the sequel Legend of Thor.

No. Hard Pass. Nov 13, 2008 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky (Post 659043)
Beyond Oasis is the stupid american rename for Story of Thor. Saturn got the sequel Legend of Thor.

http://mfrost.typepad.com/photos/unc..._you_know2.jpg

Infernal Monkey Nov 13, 2008 04:04 AM

I agree, needs more Earthworm Jim, less everything elsWHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE TO THESE GAMES, SEGA?

http://www.tothegame.com/res/game/87...een5_large.jpg

value tart Nov 13, 2008 04:18 AM

Whoever invented sprite filters should be shot.

surasshu Nov 13, 2008 04:20 AM

... Jesus. Sonic is... dead. Sega killed Sonic.

:(

Shitfuckers.

FatsDomino Nov 13, 2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faaaaace.gif (Post 659059)
Whoever invented sprite filters should be shot.

This.

DarkMageOzzie Nov 13, 2008 11:47 AM

Oh yeah, the "HD" sprites. I hated when they did that with Double Dragon for XBLA. It made me feel like I was on newgrounds rather then playing a game on the 360.

Krelian Nov 13, 2008 11:52 AM

There is an option to turn them off.

FatsDomino Nov 13, 2008 12:10 PM

Whew!

map car man words telling me to do things Nov 13, 2008 01:36 PM

::no difference, slightly more blurry::

wvlfpvp Nov 13, 2008 06:05 PM

God, I was wondering what they were going to do to make it not even remotely wantable by a guy who already bought Beyond Oasis for the Wii & owns the PS2 Genesis Collection & both Sonic collections. Qwarky's got it right with his "joke" about what turning them off is going to be like. WHY DOES A COLLECTION OF GENESIS GAMES EVEN NEED TO BE IN 720p IT MAKES NO SENSE




.... although achievements do seem like something good.(?)


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