SONIC HAS A FUCKING SWORD
 

I can't defend this anymore, I think I'll sulk somewhere and play Sonic Advance 3 :(

http://www.daviddino.com/sonicsword.jpg

More news of fail if it comes

If it somehow is ungodly awesome, maybe I'll stop laughing. :tpg:

Sonic brandished his great sword to the aw of all the forest animals

"its so big" said Sally

"I wannatoch ti!!!!!" siad tails

"Ha ha ha Tails, this time it's a real sord"

"awwwwwwww mna" sad Tales as he cryed nd went to mastrbate bcuz sonic pomdickd him

Hey wait, why isn't this in Sonic Chronicles?

GODDAMMIT SEGA, AGAIN WITH THE GOOD IDEAS AND MUSIC IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES AND WRONG EXECUTION

Well, it looks like this will be added to the "complain about" list for the Sonic fanbase....

Shadow had his "material" moment with STH, now it's Sonic's turn. That is unless this game turns out superior to that game (which I would hope so considering Unleased AND Sonic Chronicles). Let's see were this game goes.

Sonic The Ronine Part 2: Chapter 3 (all ages)

Sonic waas walking thru the forres wen he was stopd by eggman

"Il haev yuon ow ! Sonic' said eggman

"Naught if my Hattorie Honso steel has anythinge to sai about it!"" SHOUTED SONIC

then sonic kut eggman witj his swrd

Additional Spam:
ekman was defeet butt evil lerkd in the Shadows of te fforess

"WHO THERE" yell sonic

ten Shadow cam from th Shadows

No prizes for guessing who the secret character will be in the first Wii version of Soul Calibur.

Shadow The Hegehog was very evil and lookd evil and was surrounded by evil power that culd glo like chakra

"sonic yor sord can't defeta my bullets becz bullets is bettwe tan swords " said Shadow wit evilly

"my acnesters wil not by shamed by me today" sonic said intropsctivly

it was shodon

But he'll have like zero priority despite being the fastest character in the game

Don't even try picking a fight with anyone who has a green color scheme

Sonic looks pissed in that image...and while I have a bad feeling about this one, I still want to see some gameplay images.

I think everyone is missing the point here. It's called Sonic & the Black Knight. Is Sega racist?

You've got no bloody arms left!

Shadow equippd his BFG (big freekin gun rofl) and shoot lots of bullets @ sonic but sonic is very fast and cut the bullets wit his swor and the bullet split n half and fall to the groun and sparked wen tey hit the sword becas of the Hattori Honso steell

oh @%($! siad Shadow

now i hav 2 resrt to my sekrit wepon said Shadow

KAGE GUNSHIN NO JUTSU DESU NE

and then ther wer 400 shados

'ti won mater how many Shadows you hav Shadow I wil defeet you becaz you ar bad and evil and I am good and evil cant beet good' sid sonic

then they was fiht!

Did you expect:

Sonic and the Yellow Knight
Sonic and the White Knight
Sonic and the Red Knight
Sonic and the Brown Knight

;_;, can't comment on that one.

Fuckin sweet, they're making a Ghostbusters game for Wii

And another mario spin off (Mario Super Sluggers)

shado jumped in2 the are and thru a keeblad at sonik

sonik wuz lik O NO SHIZZLE and duckkd outta the wya

Sonic used to be good. It looked like Sega was starting to get sense with Sonic Unleashed. Now this.

I wonder who they think they're fooling here?

They might be going Secret Rings sequel or Tongue-in-cheek. As in "none of my old fans will take me seriously, might as well make them laugh on the way out"

Considering Wii Motion Plus got added a few days ago, this might be the first big game using it (lol big) or so speculation sez.

Sonic has got to have the stinkiest feet ever. There's got to be some foot fetish fan fiction shit with him. Has to be.

Man, quit beating around the bush and admit that you're working on a 50-chapter saga already.

as tga shados moved in on sonci sonic pareed they're blos wit his massv seord

then sonic counter-attake very fastly qand cut up all the shadows but there was no blood becaus shadows clones was clones and had no blood so there was now a bloodless feeld of ded shados

;yo migh defeet me today!' shouted Shadow but we shall meet again

BAMF!

shado disapeer in puff of smok bom his sinistar laffs lingarig in the air

my quest continues

said sonic

i contineu to wander

and sonic wanderd tru the forress


End Part 2: Chapter 3

copyright ShadowsANgel1343 don copy or I su rofl lmbo

doo dah

doo dah

sonic has a fucking sword

oh doo dah day

Seriously, with the shitty games they've been putting the Sonic name to recently, a picture of him holding a sword is what you're upset about? Because as well all know there's a deep and complex back story to the Sonic universe in which a sword would never feature.

Honestly Sonic with a sword is exactly what the fanbase wants, so I dunno what you guys are so upset about.

it's your pathetic lives

Would Sega be a bad enough dude to make Shadow the Black Knight? And have him voiced by Martin Lawrence? That would be so zany. And would Tails be the princess? And would Big the Cat have the runs and cause a flash flood that brings back the monster from Sonic Adventure but not quite so see through? And would Robotnik be called Robotnik again instead of his current name which is Dr. Fucking Stupid Name? And would the game actually let you play as Sonic or will there be a new character that'd move really slow and cause cramps.

I am going to invest emotions into this game for sure.

Ok.... what?

*sigh* I was reasonably hyped for Unleashed until the footage of Weresonic, and now Sega unleashes this hideous beast on the world (geddit? oh the hilarity). If this is their sorry excuse for a game that utilises the Wii Motion Plus, I'd rather they shove a sword on freaking Mario. At least he's *known* for doing every freaking activity under the sun.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/4...360ed8ad38.jpg

Because it's a scary thing.

With the addition of a sword, it seems the game is trying to please both the original older genesis-era fans and the Sonic Adventure and beyond furry crowd at the same time. This can only end badly.

Sonic Team: Dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

How would they know? When's the last time they did? The Dreamcast?

As I said, this can only end badly, because they DON'T.

I love you LZ.

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Because it's true. :cmbirthday:

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The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both drink, and find out who is right... and who is dead.

*grabs bucket of popcorn, eats, and sings softly*

Blue steel swings by
Sonic the Swordsman
Stabs you in your freakin' eye
Sonic the Swordsman

Sonic, he can really slice
Sonic, he can chop and dice
Sonic, he's the best swordsman aliiiiive!

I can't take credit for this gym, stole it from somewhere

I dunno, maybe some good can come out of this. You know how some hack 'n slash games move a little to slowly for our tastes?

That's all I've got at the moment. Just pretend this is another LOL SONIC IS BAD or fanfiction post.

What's that you say? Sonic and Soul Calibur combined as one?

http://www.theghz.com/gibbon/ivyman.jpg

oh sega you. <83

Damn it dubble, I think I'm gonna be sick.

New Topic:

Soul Calibur 3 - No Areolas?

You know what this game is probably going to be?

Sonic and the Secret Rings 2

It makes sense - Black Knight will most likely be Wii exclusive just like Secret Rings was (hence Nintendo Power getting the scoop). Secret Rings had a nearly 100% Arabian storybook setting - this will probably have a medieval storybook setting or at least something with medieval ties in its backdrop and design. Sonic was given an eternal flame on his chest, while Black Knight's gimmick will probably be the sword. It will most likely be Sonic as the only playable character just like Secret Rings was, with the core cast (Knuckles, Amy, Tails, Shadow, and Eggman) only playing different roles in the backdrop. And if any other characters are involved, it will probably be in the scope of extra playable minigames, also like Secret Rings.

It's the only way Sonic with a sword fighting any kind of knight or someone that's not Eggman makes any sense, and Secret Rings style gameplay would cater directly to that.

Well guess what... YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

Press release:

Goddammit, a sequel to Secret Rings? Why?! Well, it says it will use both the wiimote and nunchuk which means you won't have to steer Sonic. If that's the case, this game is already better.

I'm not too hopeful about the music, though.

Are you kidding me? These lyrics deserve a special place in music history.


Nothin' at all but cheese.
Yeaahhh-huh.

AN HEGEHOG IN KING ARTHURS CORT (16+)

SONIC WAS RUNNING VERY FAST FROM DR. EGGGMAN AND HE WENT SO FAST HE WNET BAK N TYM!

"WAT THE FUCK!!!!! ITS LIKE IM IN TH MEEDEEVAL AGE OR SOMETHING"

AND HE WAS! THERE WAS A KASLE IN THE DISTANCE AND SONIC RAN TO IT AND THE KASLE WAS CALED CAMEALOT (LOL)

THER WAS GARDS AND THEY TRIYD TO STOP SONIC BUT SONIC COULD NOT BE TOPD BECZ HE WAS TOO FAST

"WHO RUN THIS PLACE IS IT YU EGGMAN!?!?!" SHOUTED SONIC

"NO I M KING ARTHUR" SAID KING ARTHUR

"WELL GOTTA SCRAM SAM" SONIC SAID AND HE TRID 2 RUN AWAY

"HOLD IT" YELL ARTHUT AN HE PUL OUT HIS SEORD "THIS IS MY SWOR THE MIHTEE EXCALBR;

SONIC WAS AWWD BY THE MAJESTY OF EXCALBR

YOU SHJAL TAEK MY MIHTEE SWORD AND YOU WILL DEFEET THE TERRIBLE BLACK NIGHT AND SAVE MY KINGDUM SAID KING ARTHUR

"OK" SONIC SAYD OVERCUM WITH AWNER

Wait, that game was successful? Last time I checked, that was the 2nd Sonic game I actually had the balls to say I hated, and practically anyone I asked about it said the same thing.

However, the medieval thing might do well. I always did imagine Sonic eventually picking up a weapon, mainly a sword, however, the fantasy I had in mind surely was not this, and not for the Wii, either.

^Game broke 1 mil worldwide, I'd call that a success.

Blue Blur » Blog Archive » Nintendo Power Gives a First Look For Sonic and the Black Knight

It looks to be learning from SatSR's mistakes GAMEPLAY wise, but character wise? :tpg:

First day purchase ONLY FOR TEH LULZ.

”On the audio side, veteran composer Jen Senoue is taking a smiliar approach, injecting familiar Sonic themes with a Celtic flavor.”

I actually look forward to this. As long as it's the old... you know what fuck it the modern shit would be hilarious with Celtic instruments and sound.

Good news...as long as the band from Secret Rings is nowhere in sight, this game may actually turn out decent.

Edit: Damn it, Acer was quicker.

Fuck yeah, LET THE SPEED MEND IT by Enya.

"LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THEEEEEEEEE THEEEEEE SPEEEEEEEEED OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAAAAAH MEEEEEEEND EEEEEE IIIIIIIIIIIIIT SAIL AWAY SAIL AWAY"

WELL VERN TIME TO BURN

SONIC TOOK EXCALBR AND HE CULD FEEL IS INCREDIBLE POWER AND THE SWORD TRANSFORM HIS HAND INTO A GAWNTLET LIEK IN NINTENDO POWER

"IF I HAD THIS IS MY WORLD ROBUTTHEAD'S ASS WULD BEE GRASS" NOW GIVE ME A CHILI DOG

SONIC ATE THE CHILIU DOG AND TOOK EXCALBR AND LEFT TEH KASL TO LOOK FOR THE BLACK NIGHT 'I WONDER HOW STRONG THE BLACK NIGHT IS' THAWT SONIC

SONIC RAN VERY FAST OUT OF CAMEALOT AND RAN DOWN THE ROADS SO FAST HE SET THE FEELDS ON FIRE AND ARTHUR WASN VARY HAPY (ROFL) BUT SONIC HAD A JOB TO DO AND HE WAS GOIN TOO DUE IT

AND THEN SONIC TOOK HSI SWAXC D AND CHILIDOOG AND CLUMBED OUT THE WINDOWW AND CAS EH FILL HE TOK SWARDZANDDDDD STAA B DTREWWTHE WALL AND MADDE SPARKS FLEW OUT AND HAD CHILIDOG IN HANDC BUT HE DIDND DROOP TI

http://g.photos.cx/sonicandthewallchilidogs-8f.jpg

He's going to turn the Sonic tunes into late-nineties Euro-house music. Either that or just rip off some of the fucking awful efforts from ocremix.

Not that OCRemix is always the pinnacle of musical achievement, Shin, but I think at this point farting into the microphone would be a step up from recent Sonic soundtracks.

Oh god I want Green Hill Zone Fart Remix RIGHT NOW.

Get the Flash Player to play this audio file:
its a 20 second prevue of my new remix i think i really had an original idea and made a grate previe please provide criticism as long as its constructive thank you

oh god that would go terrific with cake/pudding farts :tpg:

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While nobody really cares, you can catch a 3 second clip of the game in action close to the end of this Wii advertisement.

I am scared how good this looks. Sega has a massive history of making Sonic games LOOK good...

Every time this thread is bumped I get to listen to Green Hill Fart Zone. <3

YouTube - Nintendo Conference 2008 - Sonic and the Black Knight (Wii)

Or better yet, this crappy youtoobz video does the same thing, but with more fail!

AND STOLEN HI REZ SCREENS. SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT

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I can't help but think Assassin's Creed when I look at that setting. It doesn't look that bad, but in the back of my mind I keep thinking Secret Rings and remember how much I was disappointed.

Who am I kidding? I'll buy this game because I'm a sucker for Sonic games. I know the concept seems rather, um...different but there's no way this can be the worst Sonic game ever. :eagletear:

I have a really bad feeling about this game.

The sad thing is that those screens wouldn't look too bad if this wasn't a Sonic game. I realize his name prints money from diehard fans like SuperSonic who somehow haven't had their souls crushed yet, but this might actually turn out decent if it was some character other than Sonic. Instead, it looks slow and clunky for a Sonic game.

Also, I know they've had a hard-on for rail grinding ever since Sonic Adventure, but sparks don't have to shoot up from every surface.

Slow and clunky? Did you not watch the video, however brief it was? Plus it was confirmed not to be on rails anymore.

Still, I'm worried Sonic Team will make it a bitch to control...

That's okay, people were shocked when they heard about a Mario RPG, too.

Hence clunky.

Since the trailer was only 3 seconds long they very easily could've just taken shots of Sonic in the middle of a dash attack. That probably is what they did, considering one part was him hitting an enemy.

I've stopped giving a damn about concepts Sega cooks up and started getting more worried on whether they will screw it up with bad gameplay design decisions. Sonic 06 and Genesis GBA port were ultimate examples of good ideas ruined by shitty coding, controls, and bad design as opposed to any "gimmick" making anyone cry, yet it's always the gimmicks that get attacked.

Secret Rings made a little of my soul die, so they're on their way. I think the only reason I go back and play that game is to go through Night Palace, and even that brings back some frustration. The level design is great though and it has the only vocal track in the game that I can stand.

YouTube - Sonic & The Black Knight TGS Trailer

Bad music. Gameplay would look good if they showed more than three seconds of any one scene.

Honestly, how do they manage to screw up a little worse every damn time? Sonic is one of the simplest platformer formulas ever conceived, and yet they always find a way. It's sort of impressive.

Time to sit back and wait for the next Rush game, since those still manage to be fun.

Was that Crush 40 in the trailer? That honestly didn't sound bad. However, I would have preferred to see more gameplay as well.

Epic fail Sega...

They just don't get it. They're trying all these crazy stunts to make Sonic popular again when all they need to do is just get back to the basics of speeding through a deranged obstacle course. That was the Sonic I love as a kid, not what it's become lately. It's like they put this guy (Buzzed Bunny, if you've already seen the video) in charge of the series.

For those of you who want to watch the trailer without agonizingly cheesy Crush 40 lyrics, SEGA went ahead and made the US trailer instrumental. Huh.

LIKE A SWORD (A SWORD)
I'M WROUGHT (I'M WROUGHT)
INTO THE HEAT OF DAY

ROFL. Always a pleasure encountering close-minded snobs with no taste in music. :-D

I might have called that a decent defense against Shin... but it'd take an act of god to remove the lounge/porno music that hails from Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix's M. Bison/Vega/Cammy's stage themes from my memory.

You really need to figure out what lounge/porno music even sounds like. :-D

I'm sorry, what? I quite like late nineties Euro-house as it happens but that doesn't mean that DJ Sakin is appropriate music for a Sonic game does it?

Unless you're one of those fags who takes music from games, puts a Fruityloops drum pattern behind it then posts it on OCRemix of course, in which case you can fuck straight off back to your talent-vacuum of a day job. If disliking shit music made badly by nerdy kids makes me a snob then I'm glad to be a snob.

If I didn't know, there certainly would have been some irony on the next flick I caught.

Hahaha! You've clearly got no clue what we post on the site. Keep going! :D

Well clearly I don't, seeing as how I'm so close-minded. Obviously I need to be more open to experiences involving kids calling themselves DJ Sephiroth using cheap sequencing programmes to lay tired old drumloops and unbelievably dated synths under the string sections from Final Fantasy tunes.

Look kid, I'm sure your heart's in the right place and you're going to defend OCRemix until your fingers bleed but you're entirely missing my point now and the point I originally made. Someone said that the music for this Sonic game was going to have a Celtic feel and I made a joke that rather than the same old Enya-lite the Japs love plastering all over anything they want to sound Celtic in a computer game, as it's Sonic they'd probably put in some horrible late-90s dance music which, if you weren't such a close-minded ignoramous, you'd know had a lot of Celtic influence in the form of hacks like DJ Sakin dumping 808 drum loops on the music from Braveheart and calling it a tune. The music was universally derided by DJs and clubbers but stormed the charts, making it ideal for a Sonic game. See what I did there?

My next comment was that on OCRemix there's a lot of tunes where some junior producer has taken a celtic feeling song from a game like Suikoden (Which is full of them) and added some wistful pan-pipes and a drum loop straight out of 1998 and called it a day. To anyone who's not a close-minded fool, this is old fashioned and basically crap. I never said everything on OCRemix was shit, some of the stuff on there is almost listenable in an ironicly amusing way.

The problem here is that in leaping to defend some perceived slight against your website of preference, you've exposed your own musical ignorance and general inability to read and understand anything above the simplest and most basic of posts. I imagine you're an American which fair enough, puts you automatically five years behind the rest of the world in terms of dance music trends but to believe that the majority of the tripe that passes for dance remixes on OCRemix is in any way relevant to modern electronica and not at least ten years out of fashion is to almost wilfully ignorant. I appreciate that most of your contributors are far too young to be allowed out on their own at night and as such have to turn to the radio for inspiration which is never going to help and that probably explains why so much stuff they produce is such garbage but until you yourself have made the effort to find out what music trends are doing in the real world and experience some stuff that wasn't written by a 13 year old wiith thick glasses and Pikachu pajamas then you're in no position whatsoever to be making assumptions about other people's musical tastes or knowledge and you're doing a disservice to those very kids whose work you claim to be the head of evaluating.

So stop being such a self-righteous little scrotum, learn to read people's posts properly and think before you post in future, ok?

tl;dr

Holy shit, this guy is angry as hell, yet he doesn't have a clue, it's hilarious. He seriously thinks we just post original audio with FL drumloops on top, uses the same old lame assumptions (OCR iz teknoz!, everyone's American, everyone's 13 years old) and generic interweb putdowns like "kid", when most of our musicians are in their mid to late 20s and we have all types of music from an international community.

You have gotta be the biggest dumbass re: assumptions on OC ReMix that I've ever encountered, but you've made my day. Hahahaha!

Well Shin, I'm glad you know so much about the site. Clearly your musical horizons are much broader than Larry's, despite the fact that he's the principal submissions evaluator and listens to thousands of VGM arrangements and source tunes every year.

You don't know anything about OC ReMix. You probably heard a handful of old remixes from 2000-2002 and assumed the entire library was like that - being the ignoramus that you are. We've posted everything from live jazz, gypsy solo guitar, piano sonatas, string quartet, New Age, ambient, and pop-rock to hip hop, Radiohead style alternative, heavy metal, ska, orchestral overture, and everything in between.

The reason we have less-than-stellar arrangements created using drumloops is because those songs were largely submitted in the early days of the site, at a time when music technology was significantly less widespread and affordable. Electronic music was by far the easiest thing to make and in fact one of the ONLY things the majority of hobbyist musicians could really submit. Times are much different now - we get submissions in all genres and really don't post much "90s Eurodance" at all. If you listened to everything on our front page, you'd hear that. However, you're a close-minded idiot, ergo, you won't.

okay just came here to say that this uh Shin character needs to take his foot out of his mouth and his head out of his ass before his spine explodes into thousands of tiny shards

Your stuff is funny. It really is very, very, VERY funny. We're all just a bunch of 13 year old kids with cheap samples and fruity loops, eh?

Can I do this with fruity loops and its basic stuff? OWAIT NOPE I CAN'T. I had to use real guitars, real bass, and a ton of time and effort to do this.

Not to mention software that costs well into the hundreds of dollars individually, thousands collectively.

KTHXBYE

Megaman 2 - Wily Stage 1
Tindeck Audio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENJabKUzUXE

Xenogears' "Awakening" & Final Fantasy 7's "Jenova" (ignore filename)
Tindeck Audio

Lufia I&II - Various themes
Tindeck Audio

Seriously, you are the biggest douche I've ever had the pleasure of coming across spewing crap about OCR.

You seriously just registered to say you don't like Shin

you are precious cupcakes

"Hey guys your music is shit"

"No listen to my xenogears remix fffff"

as a caveat I have nearly 5GB of OCR music on my drives and I think a lot of you do good work but this whole boo-hoo display reflects badly on the entire community

Oh boy! Shin has incited some sort of grab your buddy race across the tube plain. Tell me when the rest pull up to the station so we can all do a line dance. =D

"I spent thousands of dollars to increase the tempo on this Crash Man mp3"

"How dare you insult me"

i WISH it was that easy! If all I had to do is slap on a drum loop to a midi, I'd have like a million remixes posted, and wouldn't have had to spend all that time learning about production skills!

you don't have to like ocr! i don't wanna attack anyone, but I do want to defend my work...

That's not really it. We get hated on all the time by people with no taste; it's inevitable when your music is posted on an extremely popular site. But when people are dissing the music when they don't actually know what it is, that's a different issue. It's like the people that said they weren't voting for Barack Obama because "he's a Muslim". That would be a valid (albeit stupid) criticism, if not for the fact that he's not a Muslim.

Likewise, OCR had a fair deal of dance music made in FL within the first few years of its founding. If you want to hate on that specifically, even though tens of thousands of people like it, fine, go ahead. But just don't try to paint our entire library as being only that kind of music, as our current selection of remixes is drastically different than it was in those early years.

Maybe we ought to spend a little less time worrying about Shin's particular opinions and a little more time worrying about why your "Head Submissions Evaluator" is so ridiculously thin-skinned.

If people are allowed to hate things, then why should Liontamer flip out and call people "snobs with no taste"?

If you get hated all the time, do you guys jump into any old random forum just to defend the site wherever? Liontamer has been posting here for a while, but the rest of you guys have joined specifically to object. That makes you guys look incredibly defensive, which in turn makes people think "Jeez if they're so up in arms about this maybe there's something to that criticism."

It'd also help to point out that Shin pulled a similar "I am a dance music afithianado" routine during the Super Audio Universal Showdown and created another semi-shitstorm over there.

That still doesn't excuse getting incredibly butthurt because ONE PERSON on the INTERNET made a disparaging remark about your website, but I figured context couldn't hurt.

Also dammit now that I'm thinking about this, I bet there's another 500-song torrent or two that I could download. :(

I'm not even a remixer I just think he is a dumdum

WELL THEN I THINK YOU ARE A DUMDUM

WE ARE NOW EVEN

I HOPE WE CAN CONSIDER THE MATTER SETTLED

Man, why all you guys hating on Fruity Loops? What did the plump pepper ever do to you? :(

no I challenge you to a duel

Very well, sir. The die is cast.

Pistols at dawn, then?

Here are your pistols

Walk 10 paces, and fire

/me covers up the label of WATER PISTOL on BLECK's pistol tee hee xD

Larry isn't thin-skinned at all, neither am I; but we'll call a spade a spade and get a good laugh out of it at the same time. We always love to hear absurd attacks and criticism of the site or the judges. The best is when we get completely opposite complaints, eg. people saying we don't post any techno or we don't post "real" techno, and are too biased towards non-techno music. :D

Anyway, like I said, this isn't an opinion issue, it's an issue of fact, and objectively speaking, OCR doesn't consist of 13-year olds making 90s eurodance with FL. The closest the site came to that was in the first few years it was around, since then the repertoire we've posted has been extraordinarily varied.

Aw... Bleck thinks he can deal in silly. :)

I'VE BEEN TRICKED

SCAMMED

CLEVERED

I don't think he was ever saying that it still has that problem, but you freely admit that the site started that way, and if that was the time during which you visited the site, you'd be pretty likely to use that as a stereotype for what you've heard there.

In before this entire thing gets spun off to the Sewers and any semblance of discussion left disappears forever.

Yeah, about "facts"?

When a man starts a goddamn incident because some random shit-talking Englishman doesn't like his website, that's thin-skinned. Actions trump claims. You can't wipe the egg of your face by pretending it's not there.

I want to see insult sword fighting.

Nah, the way Shin has been phrasing his posts, he's definitely painting OCR as it is now with that brush. If he hasn't visited the site in awhile or has only sampled a handful of tracks, that's not a basis to form a respectable opinion. It's like if I decided to criticize a website now for a design they used in 2003 when they've completely changed it since then. Doesn't make any sense.

A

GOD

DAMN

INCIDENT

He's a snob with no taste because his argument is "Barack Obama is a Muslim", i.e. he's just insisting it's true, regardless of what evidence is there. :-D I'm not butthurt (I'm helping guys score music for games, I'm happy), but I'll always step in when I read something stupid like "OCR is all teknoz". This guy is so dumb, it's descended into lulz-level comedy, so I HAD to comment. And I'm not alone. I have the network. [/Verizon]

Also, I've gotta laugh at Mo0's comment: "If you defend yourself against it, there must be some truth to it." Is that how it works now, Salem witch trial logic? :-D But yeah, definitely grab those recent torrents and check out what we've got. If you wanna throw away a bunch, that's cool. We have enough music where anyone can afford to do that. But at least you'll know for sure that Shin is a moron, though it looks like you knew that already.

Pistols at dawn!

Some folks from OCR came here to tell us that not only are they thin skinned, but they fail at understanding hyperbole. That's cool. You guys have your first official work, it's validated your success... take the time to come here and defend yourself against one brit on the internet over a passing comment as if that success suddenly means nothing...

Yeah, show of class ITT.

The

God

Damn

BATMAN

Ok, let's say, for example, that I did just that.

How does that harm you.

200 words or less.

Sir this is my reputation on the line!

It must be defended to the DEATH sir!

It doesn't, but if it were a site I worked for I'd LOL about it with other staffers, then take the 15-30 seconds to let you know you're wrong. Larry summed this up better than me, though. :)

Here's my proposal, and I think you'll find — should you adopt it — that things get so much easier for just about everyone.

DON'T.

Bitch, please. :-D

Oh liontamer you are so sassy

I was all "don't go there"

and you were like "talk to the hand"

oh no you di'nt


liontamer I am trying to have an intelligent conversation with you about your insistence on fomenting discord over an infinitesimal trifle

CELTIC MUSIC = 90S EURODANCE

IT'S SIMPLE, KILL THE BATMAN

Aight, so it's in everyone's interest for Shin to post ignorant diatribes, but anyone who succinctly points out he's wrong, that ain't kosher. I got it. :D

Well, the question of whether or not he is or isn't wrong is completely immaterial and irrelevant to anyone with any sense, so


...yeah?


None of you are even capable of addressing this basic notion. It does not matter that he's wrong. It does not matter even a little.

Did these people seriously sign up just to try and point out OCR is not ALL techno?

I like the remixes, but you folks are bordering on worse than ffshrine.

Yeah, you might want to stick to making shitty music. Lying about why you're here... you're just not very good at it. You all came here to be adults, right? Righ-- Wrong.

But... but... someone said something that wasn't strictly true!

WE MUST CORRECT THIS ERROR

ELSE ALL IS LOST

if the internet is pointless why are you posting

FIRST, SHIN MUST SUFFER THROUGH THE UNDERWORLD! AND THEN, ONCE THEIR INTENT IS KNOWN, HE SHALL BE SACRIFICED FOR IT. UNTIL THEN HE WILL SERVE HIS PENANCE IN THE LIVING HELL HE HAS CREATED BY HIS OWN HAND.

Bleck the point of the internet is to complain about things I think, LIKE BEARS

This thread is terrible now. If it were a song, it'd be on OCR in like 2 seconds.

I mean seriously

person A says something is gay

person B rebuts

person C rebukes person B for giving a damn

but then logically speaking isn't person C giving too much of a damn already

Oh, bleck

I had hopes for you

you seemed even to have a rudimentary sense of humor

and now this =/

It is not the internet that is pointless, but the absurd action of TAKING UP ARMS against every trifling individual who happens to say something you don't like. What do you feel you have accomplished here, other than giving OCR a reputation as a bunch of crybabies?

Your synopsis has value, but it must be noted that, if not for person B's penchant for pants-wetting, person C fails to even exist.

We're scared that the criticisms of OC ReMix were valid, so we're making sure to remove all of the Suikoden Celtic 90s Eurodance from our archives. We're only going to be left with 4 ReMixes after that, but then we'll win this argument!

And then it'll be taking up arms with pistols at dawn, VERY SERIOUS.

And to get back on topic, Sonic's got a sword?!! That's almost as non-sensical as giving Wolverine a swo...ah shit: Wolverine: Origins #1

Perhaps.

If you understood the basis of the argument in the first place.

Hint: The argument is no longer about music.

There's no way this thread can get back on topic. :( The damage is done.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This was far more entertaining, SuperSonic.

if not for person A's silliness then neither would person B

so we've logically come to the conclusion that we should all hate this Shin fellow

Point taken. In the meantime, here's a rumor: The Sonic Stadium Blog Archive Tallarico, Jacques Working on Sonic and the Black Knight

Anyone want to shoot this down or confirm it?

No! We cannot hate Good Living! This cannot come to pass. :(

Your argument is no longer about music, but I don't care about your argument.

We want a mea culpa from this 29-year-old n00b, because he is an idiot and this is SERIOUS BUSINESS ON THE INTERNET!

We don't need a mea culpa, I just wanted to point out he was a dumbass. Then you guys thought we were butthurt when we were lulzing. We're not butthurt and we're still lulzing over how ignorant he is. He should keep it up!

Could that have anything to do with you posting in it?

Additional Spam:
I'm pretty sure you need to produce a mea culpa for why you just used the word n00b in 2008.

Perhaps the same could be said of all threads Mo0 posts in.

I am pretty sure he used the word "noob" for the lulz, Mo0.

He did it for the lulz.

If you don't understand that he's lulzing at noobs you must be butthurt.

Pwned~

Whenever someone comes to ring your doorbell to say "I just wanted to point out and specify that I am not, in fact, upset about what you said the other day. In fact, I don't even care. I'm not actually ever even thinking about it. I'm actually laughing about how insignificant what you said is to me, it's really funny! Even though I don't even think about it! If I were thinking about it, which I'm not because I don't care, I'd be laughing because of how insignificant it actually is. So haha, joke's on you!", it gives the impression they're not quite-

I dare say this thread is the awesomest thing on GFF in a week. We should be invaded by incredulous morons more often!

stfu, noob

gtfo unless u want 2 get pwned by r skilz

No, no, no. I'm not upset, I just thought it was so over the top that I had to tell him he was stupid. And he really is!

That does it. I'm gonna have to bust a dated macro now.

http://yvonnet.org/fun/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

Ah, alright. Just here for u r st00pid roflz



















not upset

A man telling a small lie about a website is "over the top"?

I can't imagine what kind of sheltered life you would have to lead for this — this! — to be the mind-rending provocation that pushes you to action.

A bear on a pogo stick is "over the top".

A human cannonball is "over the top".

Jamming your head directly up your own ass is "over the top".

Calling for an internet forum invasion!!! FOR THE LULZ is over the top.

Telling a small lie? Not so much.

It was not so much a small lie but an outright fabrication and even though we don't care because he is a stupid nub, we must point out the incorrect


















but don't care like whatever

I didn't know you were from OCR, Tails

So, I don't want to ruin the fun or anything, but I am quiet curious.


Is there any more information on this... upcoming Sonic? Apologies, I couldn't find any information and this isn't first time Google failed me either.

You know Rotor, I wasn't sure it possible to go from good to shit poster in under sixty seconds but you've been on a fucking streak here.

Do you plan to let up anytime soon or what?

Hi guys!

Firstly, I have to say I'm flattered that so many of the good folks of OCRemix have taken the time to register here at Gamingforce to tell me they don't care about my opinion. If I had known that OCRemix was such a source of lulz, I might have registered there rather than here all those years ago and now it could be me coming here to tell a different me that I don't care about my opinion. Imagine the hilarity that would ensue from that little conversation eh?

Secondly, whilst I thank you all for taking the time out to inform me that I am wrong in my assertion that every single tune on OCRemix is a piece of shit dance music effort made by a 13 year old on an Amiga, had you all and Mr Liontamer in particular bothered to read the tl;dr post I made a few pages back, you'll have seen that I never actually said that and was simply commenting that the dance music that is there is of a generally poor quality. I know it was a long post and reading that much text is probably tough for the kind of people who don't think that computer game music isn't quite niche enough already and are arrogant enough to believe they can improve on it (Not that I'm saying you aren't, a lot of vgm is really, really shit and it wouldn't take much to improve it) but if you're going to take the time to register here and tell me how wrong I am, I'd have thought you might have at least bothered to find out what I was saying that you were disagreeing with in the first place.

I mean sure, I was probably insulting you, if you're one of the OCRemixers (OCRers? OMixers? What is it you kids call yourself anyway?) who specialises in dance music but it was more of a critique of the American electronica scene in general and as has been so rightly pointed out, it's not the first time I've made these broad statements here and previously to this, I've avoided incurring the wrath of the wider, American dance music community.

So I'm afraid to say that you chaps seem to have had a wasted trip. That's not to say you're not welcome here of course. Gamingforce is always happy to welcome new members and as a highly diverse community, you're bound to find some like-minded folk to chat with and you never know, you might even find some other people here who like you, have spent the last 5 years perfecting the art of using really expensive computer programmes to create free-form jazz versions of One-Winged Angel or whatever it is you've all moved on to since the heady days of Fruity Loops and 90's Eurohouse.

Welcome to Gamingforce guys, nice to meet you all. Have fun posting around but do take a bit of time to read a few posts here and there before you start posting yourselves. You'll notice we have certain expectations of our members in so far as reading other people's posts and framing coherant replies go but we're not ogres or anythng and as Liontamer has demonstrated, even someone with a minimal grasp of English can fit right in here for a long time before we notice what a tool they are.

I got that you were a bitch the first time, Tails. Should I change my ranking of you too over something stupid?

Fuck outta here, enjoy your 5.

In a month they will be ready for the CONCERT HALL :D :D :rolleyes: :biggrin: :doingsomethingsomething:

No I'm asking serious business here. Like an intervention.

HELP ME HELP YOU, Rotor. That's all I'm asking.

Here's probably not the best place, mang. Just sayin'. And help from you? Looking like them thar trojan horses, personally.

Hey guys, I'm from OCR too, and I just wanted to distance myself from the other OCR people who felt it was necessary to do a mini-forum raid because 'sum guy on teh intertubes sed sumthin bad bout ocr'.

So please, don't think all of us get butthurt that quickly, there's some rational people here as well. By all means, you should be able to hold a particular opinion of OCR (even if it's a bit misinformed) without half the site-staff coming to get you. Carry on.

Come on. Out in the open is the only place where the healing process can begin.

Don't run away from this, Rotor.

Tensei, you lousy kiss-ass.

More like don't run into it. You think I was speaking cryptic English? Make a thread about it in the CC (or the Sewers and save someone the trouble), make a journal entry if you want to do it there. Just not here. I'm not Styphon, I won't delete any character evaluation about myself. I can't pick where I'll dine in hell?

And what? You can't have a man to man on Live? I'm on right now, I see you playing Gears 2. It's cool, I got time.

I think the major problem is this: I use to go to this forum for years. It was a great place. Then around the time of the "problems" due to bandwidth, etc, people here became super assholes. It came to the point that I left here, cause seriously, people like megalith around just being a dick to be a dick is no fun. Its so nice to see that there are still people around here like this, throwing around baseless opinions for reaction responses, then when people do register here to defend against those baseless opinions, they have to bust out the old tried and true "oh you joined to fight, stop caring". Anyway, just my opinion. Go back to your bickering.

And... you don't see the problem with that?

Well, I would just love to see the backlash of members here if there was a post on OCR stating how gay GF was.

Done.

Now we wait.

i think gamingforce is a pretty cool guy, eh harbors trolls and doesn't afraid of anything

k so one kid thinks ocr is full of technoshits and then a bunch of people were like nO ITS NoooOOoOoOT

k done back on topic SWORDS BRO

This idea didn't stink of Wile E. Coyote to you?

I would also love to see that, because I am fond of rare and impossible sights.

it was the most i ever threw up and it changed my life forever

Well edge implied it would cause an epic forum war or something, so I was interested in knowing if that would actually work out.

Pity.

I keep clicking on Tensei's link but it tells me I'm not logged in, am I supposed to register for this other forum just to read a post some other guy thinks might be offensive to me :mad:

If only our membership had a collective mental age of 12 eh? Oh the lulz we could have.

My plan from the very beginning! Delightful irony!

I don't know what's more precious, the post or the signature.

What is this OCR?

Optical character recognition?

Man I finally bothered to register and the conversation over there was even more vapid than the one they had over here

This is how they act when they're on good behavior

If I wanted to make an angry reply to that thread I would not even know how to begin, it's just a sequence of one-word posts like "yeah" and "woot".

Your attempts at trolling are doing a lot to convince us that you're not all 13 year olds who make remixes of To Zanarkand using pan pipes.

It's a group of extremely mature people who do extremely mature things with their time and spend a lot of money and time perfecting their craft and they will fuck you right up if you say otherwise

Considering there is a 10 character limit on posts there, I have yet to see these "one word posts". But nice try :D

Some words contain 10 or more letters.

Would you like some examples?


(PS: I think you meant "10 character minimum", but your actual assertion is more accurate)

Examples like "yeah" and "woot"? Your examples rock hardcore ;)

Pang, give up. He's using the "Elixir" defense. He'll just keep on taking anything you say exactly literally, ignoring the obvious statement you were making until you get bored. It's a common argument technique amongst pre-teens.

NO, YOU'RE EURO TECHNO CELTIC MUSIC, SHIN.

ZOMG NO U!

I don't know one real-life preteen who does this!

No, no. One more try. Mr. EdgeCrusher is strictly correct. I cannot provide evidence of a post containing only the word "yeah". I exaggerated completely.

http://www.saxypunch.com/miscimg/yeaaaaaah.png

[06:39pm] <Bleck> yeah but get this
[06:39pm] <Bleck> when they ban you
[06:39pm] <Bleck> they make it forward to a page
[06:39pm] <Bleck> that opens an infinite number of tabs and slows down your browser

You guys rock. Can I sign up for your newsletter?

Do you think I could fit all that title he has in my custom title slot? That's a pretty impressive one line resume.

regrettably my .png does not convey the glitter effect on the word "ATLANTA".

You see, he's from Atlanta. Liontamer is. That's where he's from. I would guess.

Wait. Hold up.

Did this guy actually register at GFF just to troll someone from his own board?

I mean, well...okay, fine, but...still...Christ, man.

He crossed the line into mindless spam, had to go I'm afraid mate. I might have let it slide if it hadn't been in a non-standard character set.

It's just sixto, he's jealous of my guitar skills, we go way back.

If you know what I mean.. *wink*wink*nudge*nudge*

are you implying that you raped him homosexually :|

Internet.

Serious
fucking
business.

This was my favorite post so far, he's as sad as he could ever be
It's like someone decided to bring chicks and liquor and ruined his lame game of Twister

It fits! Would you Adam and Eve it?

http://i37.tinypic.com/29eov88.jpg

AND ALL 3(?) OF YOU WHO REGISTERED FELL FOR IT.

That needs to be the new default title for people with 10 posts or less

lol adblock nig who got pwned nao

u no

Dude, if you need 30 cents that badly I'll paypal it to you.

Cliches.

Why
argue
intelligently.

At least OCR has run without kinks for more than 2 years now. OSNAP.

Your deeds are worthy of a moustache twinge you dastardly cad.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/5...rectionrd5.jpg

So, when does this Sonic game come out?

...we're using server hosting reliability as a dick measurement now?

Seriously?

Yes, yes I did.

Uh, guys, you really aren't supposed to be all 'LAWL AD-BLOCK', you have to be like 'Oh tensei you card, you and your silly shenanigans, when will we hear the end of it' and be all lovable and then we go have a barbecue or something and laugh about it afterwards. :eagletear:

It's all about the Pentiums, baby.

Well yes this is what actually happened but I am trying to maintain the pretense of being a fucking toolbox for the benefit of certain other participants here

please bear with me

untz untz untz!

Liontamer I heard you were from Atlanta

Is that true

cuz I got peepz in a-town

v I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess he feels pretty lulzy

Larry, you are an internet legend now with your "one line resume". HOW DO YOU FEEL?!?!

Larry the Liontamer?

Aw, that's so cute!

You gotta try harder!

Took you that long? Way to go snappy!

Well until today I'd never even heard of the kid so it's not entirely surprising that I didn't know his first name is it?

Considering youve had his "one line resume" as your title for 30 minutes now. You are a king among men. Can I have your autograph?

You know putting your actual name in a title on a message board kinda negates the point of coming up with a silly moniker in the first place, surely?

Until 30 minutes ago I had "Saintly" written under my avatar, that doesn't mean my name is Mr Saintly does it?

You really are a special kind of useless aren't you? It's a shame really because I'm kinda warming to most of our other new members from OCR, they seem pretty normal.

It's not that unique of a title...anymore.

Considering I've probably been coming to GF since well before your time, I don't see how you can lump me as the "OCR new member". Either way, I love dropping you down to a level on here that you seem to want so bad that you can't stand to let it go. So thanks for the fun :D

To be fair, if you write in that particular field, you HAVE to write your real name or you'll get b&.

Hahaha, I'm liking this.

D'aww they're even using the smilies I really like the-

maybe since he registered 2.5 years ago, I don't have to count him!

But I DON'T CARE. AT ALL.

</Yama>

Epic win.

See now Edge, you don't mind if I call you Edge do you? Edge, for all I know you might have been member number 2 on the very first iteration of Gamingforce, you could have been fondling bobo's balls while he first registered the domain name, fuck, you could even be bobo under a new guise but that makes no difference to the fact that until this little bit of frivolity with the kids from OCR cropped up, you'd never said anything.

Technicalities aside, that makes you one of the new OCR kids, sorry, but it just does.

Best use of mod usage in the world. Did you go to school for that? TEACH ME!

The guy's made 17 posts Garr, 17! No more than 15 of those can have been in this thread too, he's been a staunch member of the community since you were still at neopets.

What? How dare you. He's not just a mod, he's

Al Gritzmacher III, Administrator, Judge, "Audio Punishment Extravaganza" Project Director, Delicious Sandwich Creator


So show some respect

You missed out "Man of four lungs".

No, he's Larry Oji, Super Moderator, Judge, "Dirge for the Follin" Project Director, VG Frequency Creator.

God, can't you read?!?!

"I'm Liontamer!" "No, I'm Liontamer!"


And then we all get crucified along the Appian Way and Kirk Douglas and stuff.

What if I did? What if I have a fucking degree in this shit? What would you and your sarcasm say then?

Some of us work goddamned hard to do the things we do here and we do not appreciate small minds like you bringing us down, man.

Ya know?

Good grief, Larry, I leave you alone on this board for 2 weeks and you start flinging your moldy dingleberries at people. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH YOU, LARRY MORTIMER OJI.

Edit: Best thread ever ever ever.

Dammit dhsu there are leash laws in this town for a reason :mad:

I pee in your gastank, Dhsu.

Well fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck man. Fuck. I mean, seriously, god damn. Fuck. Fuck shit man. Fuck. Shit shit shit fuck.

Well, there's no need to be vulgar about it.

BAD HALFRICAN, BAD.

I may not have panpipes, but I do have a sense of humor: http://drumultima.googlepages.com/tozanarkand.mp3

We're keeping this guy.

Gentlemen, I vote that we consider this haunting tune a form of armistice

Mostly because Cohsin Larry Appleton is going to be reduced to image macros any time now and I think we'd all rather not

Doot doot, doot doot doot.

Needs moar panpipe.

Are you proposing, perhaps, that you have some kind of fever

And that the required prescription may be unorthodox

We're gonna post that 2nite!

as in like, a year from now? ;D

HEY, you gotta let it marinate! For flavor!

It's Larry's special gastank pee recipe. :)

(I seriously read that as "ga-stank".)

You should talk, ya Master Onion-lookin' mothafucka!

Jesus Liontamer what did you do to this thread. CHz, you're fired. Even though you didn't even post.

Sometime in 2009, Gamestop has the date of March 10. I have no idea if that's a placeholder or if it's the actual release date.

Tails, now you know why i idled in the chat room and then left.

This behavior is just embarassing. For both sides. People are grasping at straws and their ugly sides are really coming out. Larry has done a lot for the community, he's not perfect and can still be trolled, but this thread is just straight up embarassing for everyone whos posted in it.

This is disgusting behavior for both sides.

People are entitled to their own opinions. However when their opinions are formed on fact that has changed (in this example ocremixes have improved in quality and number of genres) and yet they are still posting defending their original opinion, research is necessary not only for the op but for everyone who this tainted opinion has touched. Rather than stating that this fact has changed and presenting examples, mud was slung and you all fought like little sissy 12 year old girls. Bravo.

The truth is nowadays OCRemix has standards so high that many good but not exceptional arrangements are rejected. For every song posted, a ridiculous number of arrangements were rejected. There is no more of this "drum loop over the original song" business and there hasn't been for years. Insisting this isn't the case is just adding insult to injury (lolz).

Either way, many of you have shown a display of character and I can't say it's pretty. If I were a mod here i'd seperate this into two threads so that the original topic had a chance, or maybe just start over without the hate and mental retardation.

It may be the internet, and it may be easy to troll or be rude to people, but that doesn't mean you should do it. I know what i'm saying is falling upon deaf ears but hopefully some of you try to be better people some day. For now, this behavior is appalling and heartbreaking to see from both sides.

Your attempt to appear even-handed would work better if you hadn't immediately spent the next two paragraphs explaining why one side was in the right.

Also, the argument had already been two hours dead when you sashayed in here and tried to play den mother, so GJ on that one

Yeah, Starla I get you're trying to be helpful, but you realise the last 5 or so pages were people satirizing the original argument. I mean, you grasp that, right?

I'm still enjoying that some people are missing that Shin only stated that the 90s electronica that OCR had/has is pretty poor (compared to uh... good 90s electronica?) not that OCR is filled completely to the brim with crap with lots of untz untz untz and dooda boop drum tracks over midi files. Just you know letting you know it would be cool for you to know in case you missed that.

Also starla thanks for helping us out with the harddrive again and watch out for Mo0. He hungers.

both sides are in the wrong both sides are in the wrong both sides are in the wrong both sides are in the wrong habby dabby habby dabby doot doot dooo doooo vweeeeeeeeeeee


fffffffffffffffffffffff asdasdasdasdasdasdasdasdasd

Request to shift all of the OCR discussion to a new thread: "Clits and Criticisms: The OCR Debate".

Request that this thread be renamed to

because we all know the discussion going on now is worlds more interesting and important than whatever the fuck this thread was originally about.

*checks*

See, yeah, it was originally about me and Brady writing a gay porno sonic fanfiction.

How amusing that a thread that contains the Green Hill Zone Fart Remix would come to this. Seems appropriate.

YouTube Video

sawnic was in a foul mood that day FUCK ROBUTTNIK FUCK ROBUTTNIk

whats the matter soinc said tails

HURRRRRRRGGAGGGUGUGUGUH

Sonic dropped trou to display his massive erection, dripping with a yellowy discharge

SONIC THATS GROSS SAID TAILS

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRGH Sonic went super-saiyan and his penis sprouted into a bloomin onion of dicks, snapping and clawing for Tails pussy

no sonic not there! :o

but it was too late, dick prime had already enteresd tails supple vagina, while other lesser dicks poured through tails remaining orifices

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

some dicks came in Tails eyes

AAAAAA THAT STINGS SAID TAILS IT HURTS SO BAD

HURURGRUGGRUUUUGGRRUUUH

the lesser dicks began biting into tails flesh, terring off chunks of his skin

NOOOOOOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAA SAID TAILS

RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHURRRUUUUUUUUGH DESTROY SONIC YELLED

then dick prime came, shooting yellowy semen which came shot out threw Tails esophogus

the room was showered in a geiser of blood, with Tails life fluids painting him red sonic was ready for chili dog

Hahahaha, that's actually better than Russel Cox's "To Zanarkand Once Again". You can tell him I said that too...

It's 6 1/2 years old, he wouldn't care. Gotta add some FL drumloops to it! :-D

READY...












DOWN

(But seriously free jazz OWA, c'mon someone do this).

I can't really play saxophone, can I get in on this?


And fucking OverLooked STILL has One-Winged Hutt credited to me. My name is attached to falk's glory ALL OVER THE INTERNET.


At least when someone has my Halloween mix on a playlist, it's something I did.

There are new trailers out, showing more cutscene footage and a little more gameplay. If anyone thought this was Sonic mixed with Zelda, well...just look at the chick and see for yourselves.

Gametrailers has the Japanese version (Crush 40 lyrics): Gametrailers.com - Sonic & The Black Knight - Japanese Run Trailer

IGN has the US version (Instrumental): IGN Video: Sonic & The Black Knight Nintendo Wii Trailer - Knight Trailer

I really hope this is better than Unleashed.

Having diarrhea injected up your urethra is better than playing Sonic Unleashed. That said, I'm pretty sure Sonic Team will find a way to make this game even worse. They have true skill.

I'm sorry, how can anyone watch that video and think this might not be as bad as Unleashed. Sorry, but from that video, it looks to be fairly poor.

To be fair, she's a fairly generic elf- No, I just can't do it. That whole bit screams Ganondorf chasing Zelda on horseback from Ocarina of Time.

This looks like Secret Rings all over again, except this time every level will be the same generic castle stages instead of several different levels you have to replay 10 times to progress. It's not like I ever expected anything else from this, but having confirmation still merits a sad head shaking.

Whoah, it's a good thing you summoned me with that magic spell, baby. Never you fear, Sonic is here, rending through badguys with a giant phallus so you never have to dirty your dainty little hands and challenge the traditional gender roles of my fan base (24 year olds).

You are delusional.

Until the time that it is released it is the best 3D Sonic game yet.

After playing it for about 2 hours, I can say that the controls are much better than Secret Rings so this is already an improvement on the Wii. Instead of steering Sonic like a car, you use the joystick to move him and swing your sword with the WiiMote (like in Twilight Princess).

The music is pretty good too and they've brought back a couple of character's themes from past Sonic Adventure games. I'm having more fun with this game than I did with Unleashed or Chronicles.

Got a 3.9 from IGN. Not a good source of reviews, but I'm curious to see how your opinion differs on the controls, SuperSonic. They seem to have very, very different opinion on them.

Eh. I'm hearing from a lot of people who have the game that this wasn't deserving of a 3.9.

6, or 7 maybe (7 is probably stretching it tremendously) - but definately not 3.9.

HOWEVER

Most people I know are teetering between saying that its something of a cross between Unleashed's day stages and Secret Rings in terms of fun factor (not in terms of gameplay, "meat", and consistency). The general consensus that I am hearing seems to be that Secret Rings was probably the better game as this one was definately meant and designed moreso with the kiddies in mind (hence the somewhat blatant "easy streak" the game sees to be exuding upon first play).


The general problem seems to be that Secret Rings seems to have had more meat to it at the cost of wild and borked controls while Black Knight is easier to control/get the grasp of at the sake of sacrificing some of the intricate and complex aspects gameplay that Secret Rings seemed to bring (boss fights that are incredibly simple to beat with no real strategy for instance).

Most I've talked to or gleaned across the net seem to find it somewhat enjoyable (keep in mind these are sonic fans that aren't so jaded that they can't see the forest for the trees so I never said these opinions weren't biased to some extent) and tend to agree that it's certainly not the awful and terrible miasma some Sonic games are expected to be nowadays (Sonic 06 comes to mind), but it does feel like it sacrificed a lot of itself in terms of trying one-up the previous one and wound up going in a not-necessarily-wrong but certainly odd-and-slightly-off-kilter direction in order to do so. If you're in the camp that liked Unleashed's day-stages, this will probably be just a notch below. If you didn't find anythng about Unleashed fun or if you were fair-to-midly on Secret Rings, then this is probably not the game for you. If you liked both to some degree, then it's probably worth a passing play just to see how it feels.

I can see this game being very divided in terms of likes and dislikes as there's a lot of points to be made for both. I'd argue moreso than Unleashed. It's not a step in the right direction - it's "a step". If you translate that low Famitsu score to probably a low-to-midway-6, then I'd garner that they are probably a lot more "right" than IGN certainly would be. Take that for how you will.

Personally, I will be waiting out for Sonic Rush 3 since (IMO) the handhelds have consistently held a much better record than the core games and spinoffs.

SIDENOTE: The music in Black Knight is simply amazing, but that is par for the course of ANY Sonic game it seems.

First of all, it's a hell of a lot easier to get Sonic to do what you want him to do in this game. In Secret Rings, to make him go you had to tilt the WiiMote forward, and depending how far it was tilted was how fast he would run, while to get him to step back you had to tilt the WiiMote back towards you. Half of the time, the backstep didn't want to work for me.

In Black Knight, you just tilt the joystick. Old fashioned, but it works much better.

To get Sonic to jump in Secret Rings, you had to hit the 2 button on the WiiMote and then thrust it forward to do a homing attack. This worked better than the back step, but sometimes it still had its problems. Thankfully, there was the option to hit the A button to cancel the jump and just drop straight down. Also, you had to hold the 2 button for a length of time to determine how high you wanted to jump. I remember this one part in the second level of Secret Rings where I kept dying over and over again. It was near the end, I was running around to the top and I kept encountering this cactus that you had to jump over. Now since the backstep was a problem and Sonic kept running forward and the jump had to be timed just right, it was a continuous pain in the ass. Eventually I gave up on the game, tried again the next day and ended up getting past it, ran for a few minutes, and reached the goal.

Black Knight, just hit the A button to jump, A again to do a homing attack, and then A once more before you hit an enemy to cancel the attack and drop straight down. More responsive and I didn't once have a problem with it.

Also in Secret Rings, you had to tilt the Wiimote left or right to shift Sonic in that direction while he's running. That sometimes didn't work fast enough when I needed it to. Black Knight, again the use of the joystick is easier and I didn't have a problem shifting Sonic.

After 2 hours, then a break playing my dad in Wii Golf, then after another hour...I beat the game. It's a short single player game, however there are more levels this time around and I enjoyed it a lot more than some of the previous titles that have been put out. Unlike Unleashed, I actually want to go back and unlock stuff like the fan artwork and this one missing music track.

I will say though, I hope there isn't a sequel for this type of game. While I feel giving Sonic a sword worked this time around, it's safe to say that it shouldn't become a repeated occurrence.

From IGN: "Possibly designed by monkeys. Everything you've ever liked about Sonic games -- speed, great level designs -- is gone. Instead, you will crawl through stages and fight enemy after enemy, with waggle."

But I wonder what they would have said if Sonic was replaced by Link? They'd probably say he was moving too fast and there wasn't enough slowing down. I think Matt C. is a little too dependant on the main character's past, because the game looks fun and gorgeous (for a Wii game). Lots of games where you fight enemy after enemy with a Waggle got better scores on IGN (and rightfully so, for some of them).

Yeah. Because we shouldn't at all take into account the history of a character.

Ever.

Well, obviously that's an overstatement, and I accept that. Continuity is good, that's true. But the game should still be rated on how it is as a game, and not as a Sonic game.

I mean, its just not fair that Mario can make 15 games a year, but IGN rates them all 7.0 and up because of the Super Nintendo days.

So you're saying that it's pretty good when compared to similarly simplistic, treacle-paced games with repetitive waggle-filled combat?

Damning with faint praise indeed.

Deni's right, though. I can't really get behind the idea that it shouldn't have to be rated as a sonic game because it is a sonic game. Sonic isn't a hack n' slash title. It's a game about speed - that's why he's called Sonic.

What gets me is that while Sonic Team has been fucking around with gameplay styles (Heroes), control gimmicks (Seven Rings), ripping off God of War, trying to get us to accept Shadow into the canon, and generally ignoring the fans who started out with the franchise like twenty years ago while catering to the younger crowd who doesn't care about Sonic the Hedgehog, other development teams have gone and put actual innovation into their game design and turned out products like Mirror's Edge. Arguably not the best game ever, but still closer to what a Sonic title should be than anything Sonic Team's put out in a decade.

I forgot where I was going with this. Ah! Yes, a return to a more classic, less gimmick-based control scheme is a step in the right direction, but a long shot from a cure for our dear old friend. A goddamn sword isn't going to help Sonic out anymore than an edgy black foil did. Sonic doesn't need more gimmicks, it needs to go back to its roots: Speed, creative level design, a camera that doesn't resent the player, and for the love of God if the characters are going to have to speak than kill off everyone who wasn't on a Genesis title.

No, the Mario games get 7s or higher because they're still good. The trite crap like Mario Party get mediocre reviews usually, so that argument is weak. No one treats Sonic unfairly, it's just a shit series now.

Mario still ranks highly because it's still fantastic, and even most of its spin-offs are consistently good. Nostalgia is hardly boosting scores.

Mario games are also competeing in a quite different market. Sonic on the 360 is up against hundreds of different games and IPs, many of which are a bit shit but some of which are really, really good. Your average Mario spin-off however, being on the Wii or DS is up against, well, a load of other Mario games, those terrible Imagine things a couple of lacklustre ports and Wii Fit/Sports/Play. This makes the Mario games look even better than they might already be as there's less stellar competition around.

If they only released Sonic games on a platform that had mainly Sonic games and a few other things that were for the most part a bit shit, I'm sure they'd score higher in reviwes.

That doesn't explain why this Sonic game on the Wii sucks, though. The Wii library still has a terrible selection in a lot of genres-- with platformers, you have something like Super Mario Galaxy and de Blob and not much else. But here's another Sonic game, on the Wii (where there's the poor competition you're describing and saying would be influencing Mario reviews), and the Sonic game still gets slammed.

Maybe it's just not that fun, and Sonic gets bad press thanks to his recent games and unpleased hardcore fans. Too bad, that sucks. Better luck next time, though. :\ I'd still give SEGA the benefit of the doubt on this one for three reasons:

1) I never really followed the Sega/Sonic bandwagon back in the Genesis days, the Dreamcast days, or even the sucky recent-and-current gen jazz. I only really got into this world recently, so I refuse to give in to the popularly jaded opinion and believe it's already over.

2) I love Sonic. He's a likeable character, and I can't get enough of him.

3) Sonic Unleashed was not that bad; There were enough good things about it for me to think, "This isn't over." Also, I haven't played his recent 3D outings or even all of his handheld ventures, although I've already seen plenty of them to have formed some kind of perspective on them and the overall Sonic status at large.

Overall, I'm not fatalistic about Sonic's status in the industry. Whether or not he succeeds or peters out is still yet to be decided, as SEGA still seems to be going strong. If I get too caught up in this deal of "Is Sonic dead yet," or "Should he be killed off already," I'll never hear the end of it.