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Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2008 12:22 AM

Pokemon Draft Tournament 2.0
 
Because the original coordinator was banned, I've decided to take the helm myself and run this thing. It's my idea, so it kinda makes sense, you know?

This is a Draft Tournament. It is unlike other Pokemon tournaments because each participant will have a completely unique team.

Sign up!

This is as simple as posting in this thread and declaring your intent to participate. I will add your name to the list of participants. All you need to do is wait patiently until the next step begins.

The deadline for signups will be Saturday July 5th, 11:59 PM, EDT. This gives people one week to decide.

The Draft!

Once sign-ups have finished, everyone will be randomly assigned a number in sequence, using Chocodecide. Using this assigned order, the draft process will begin.

The person with the lowest number will draft first. He or she will select three different Pokemon to use in competition. These Pokemon will be consider "drafted" and will no longer be available for selection by subsequent players. By this method, each player will have a unique team! Once a Pokemon is selected, it will be noted in this thread. If you do not see a certain Pokemon listed, you can choose it!

The draft will progress numerically, with each person selecting three available Pokemon in order.

When the last person - the person with the highest number - chooses, that person will select all six of his or her Pokemon at once. This is the compensation for going last: the opportunity to build a cohesive team at one time.

The draft will then proceed backward numerically, choosing three at a time, until each participant has chosen a total of six Pokemon apiece.

For the same of timeliness, I will send you a Private Message when it's your turn to draft. You will have 48 hours to make your choice. Please be as swift as possible, for you are holding up the tourney if you procrastinate. 48 hours is more than ample time to respond. Please consult this thread to know which Pokemon have been taken. If I ask you to select again, you will not be granted an extension.

If you fail to respond or have failed to make legal choices by the deadline, you will be skipped. You will be granted a make-up opportunity later on, but only after all other players have finished drafting in one direction. If you miss the make-up deadline also, you will be ejected from the tourney.
(Note, that if a player is ejected, any Pokemon that he or she has drafted up to that point will not be returned to eligibility. This is the only way to avoid a lengthy debate over who should've had access to the same Pokemon, and when.)

The following Pokemon will be forbidden for drafting due to their power:
Quote:

Moltres, Articuno, Zapdos, Mewtwo, Mew, Wobbuffet, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, Regirock, Registeel, Regice, Latios, Latias, Kyogre, Groudon, Deoxys, Rayquaza, Jiraichi, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Heatran, Cresselia, Dialga, Palkia, Regigigas, Giratina, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus
Tips:
  • Having a low number is obviously good. But you may find a considerable lack of balance between your first and last choices, so consider this.
  • Work with what you have. Some Pokemon are strong but if you haven't raised a certain one, it may be a lot of extra work.
  • Pay attention to what people are selecting before you. If you notice that Water types are popular choices, then an Electric or Grass type may be advantageous.
  • Don't select a Pokemon just to make sure nobody else chooses it. That's not always an effective strategy.

DRAFTED POKEMON:

Tyranitar
Shuckle
Rampardos
Salamence
Charizard
Skarmory
Dragonite
Miltank
Mamoswine
Gardevoir
Weavile
Lucario
Metagross
Aerodactyl
Garchomp
Vaporeon
Hypno
Bastiodon
Blissey
Starmie
Infernape
Heracross
Magnezone
Alakazam
Drapion
Milotic
Electivire
Gyarados
Weezing
Gliscor
Leafeon
Gengar
Floatzel
Flygon
Umbreon
Crobat
Primeape
Feraligatr
Rotom
Jolteon
Spiritomb
Togekiss
Staraptor
Xatu
Jumpluff
Rhyperior
Bronzong
Forretress



Preparation!

Once all players have chosen their team, the preparation period begins. You will have one week to assemble the necessary Pokemon and raise them if necessary. This period will end on July 12th, at 11:59 PM EDT.
  • It is not necessary to raise them all to Level 100. We will be fighting in the Level 100 battle rooms, anyhow, so the game will make all the proportional adjustments.
  • It is not necessary to EV train either, as this may take more time than is allotted. If you can, then do so but don't make it a priority.
  • It is a wise decision to draft Pokemon you've already raised or know you can easily acquire and train with the desired moveset.

During this week, players may also negotiate trades if they desire. By this, I mean that if player A has drafted Raticate, and Player B has drafted Furret, they may exchange "ownership." Player A would then use Furret during the tournament, and Player B, Raticate.

If you intend to swap, both parties must send me a Private Message indicating the change. This change will be noted in this thread in the respective players' rosters. Changes must be made on a one-for-one basis; no others will be approved.

Battle!

This is the good part.

Each player will battle each other player once. This battle will consist of a "Best of Three" match.
  • The first match will be 6 vs.6. Bring out your entire bench.
  • The second and third matches (if necessary) will be 3 vs. 3. Choose wisely!

Between matches, players may adjust held items. Nothing else may be changed on a Pokemon.

Sleep Clause will be in effect. If you don't know, the Sleep Clause states that you may not place two members of an opponent's party to sleep at the same time, resulting either from a move or an activated Pokemon ability such as "Effect Spore". If you’ve already slept one of their Pokemon, you can not use a sleep move again until that particular Pokemon is awake. If an opponent uses something like Rest to put himself to sleep, then it’s fair game. Otherwise, any player using either of these moves will be disqualifed on the spot.

Each player must keep a tally of how many of each player's Pokemon were KO'd, in total, throughout all the battles fought. This information will be used to settle tiebreakers, if necessary.

It is up to you to contact each other player for battle. Do not sign up if you are unwilling to make this effort. If players report that you are unresponsive, or do not appear for scheduled battles, then you will be removed from the competition.

Once all players have successfully fought each other, the player with the highest win-loss record will be declared the winner. If there is a tie, the player who lost the lowest number of Pokemon throughout all his or her matches will be the winner. If this still results in a tie, there will be a sudden death match: One battle, 3 vs.3. The victor will be declared the winner of the tourney
If this still somehow results in a draw, screw you guys, I'm going home.

There will be no convoluted system of modifiers based upon cumulative stats, type advantages, or whatever, to determine scoring. The field of selection is wide open and each player has the same initial opportunity to assemble a strong team. This tourney is for amusement purposes only, so delving into such complexity is just silly.

That's the basics. If you have questions, which you might, please post them. I'll do my best to clear things up. Please sign up early if possible; the appearance of involvement may entice others to join also.

Good luck!

List of Participants:

Crash Landon
Kairyu
Identity Crisis
Tritoch
Chaotic
Black Mage
NinjaGuyDan
radcliff13

Kairyu Jun 30, 2008 12:44 AM

This saves me a lot of work, thank you Crash =D
If you do need help in anything for this tournament just let me know.

In any case, sign me up!

Identity Crisis Jun 30, 2008 12:49 AM

Once again, I'll be up for this.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 30, 2008 01:10 AM

Why not, I'll join in this time.

I wanted to participate in the last tourney, but when it started I still didn't have a single gym badge. I've got six now, and I'm sure I can get together a pretty decent draft before this begins. Already have a couple of ideas.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2008 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairyu (Post 621471)
This saves me a lot of work, thank you Crash =D
If you do need help in anything for this tournament just let me know.

In any case, sign me up!

Actually, I'm not so handy with the charts. I can draw them on paper but making them nice and shiny for viewing online, not my forte.

If you'd be willing to assist there, I'd appreciate the help.

Sousuke Jun 30, 2008 01:28 AM

Yep, sign me up. :D

This seems a lot simpler [this is a good thing] than the other tournament. Thanks!

Chaotic Jun 30, 2008 01:35 AM

Yep, yep, yep.

Kairyu Jun 30, 2008 05:02 PM

I have a question about one of the rules. About the whole draft swapping half, I'm a bit confused by it. Are we allowed to only trade one pokemon and that's it? Or as many as we want but only with one player?

Quote:

Originally Posted by :words: Overflow (Post 621479)
Actually, I'm not so handy with the charts. I can draw them on paper but making them nice and shiny for viewing online, not my forte.

If you'd be willing to assist there, I'd appreciate the help.

Sure, of course! I assume you want a chart similar to the one I did for the first tournament hosted here. But this time I think I'll try including colorful bar or pie graphs. Because everyone likes pie graphs =D

troy1516 Jun 30, 2008 07:32 PM

I would like to join

Sousuke Jun 30, 2008 08:18 PM

Actually, you know what? I'm going to sit this one out. Sorry guys!

NinjaguyDan Jun 30, 2008 08:41 PM

I signup I

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairyu (Post 621664)
I have a question about one of the rules. About the whole draft swapping half, I'm a bit confused by it. Are we allowed to only trade one pokemon and that's it? Or as many as we want but only with one player?

As far as I care, you can make as many trades as you like as long as both sides notify me of the agreement. And yes, you can swap with more than one person if you wish.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sousuke
Actually, you know what? I'm going to sit this one out. Sorry guys!

Sorry to hear that. I've removed your name from the list. Hope to see you in other events, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy1516
I would like to join

I'm going to say no to this because frankly, I'm suspicious. The person who first took charge of this tournament was banned from Gamingforce. You registered today and your first post was in this thread. You are also using a proxied IP. The chance that you're an impostor is simply too great. Sorry.

troy1516 Jun 30, 2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by :words: Overflow (Post 621727)
As far as I care, you can make as many trades as you like as long as both sides notify me of the agreement. And yes, you can swap with more than one person if you wish.



Sorry to hear that. I've removed your name from the list. Hope to see you in other events, though.



I'm going to say no to this because frankly, I'm suspicious. The person who first took charge of this tournament was banned from Gamingforce. You registered today and your first post was in this thread. You are also using a proxied IP. The chance that you're an impostor is simply too great. Sorry.

I forgot my first account because I wasnt using it for awhile,I think my ip is like that because Im using a router and Im positively not the guy that was banned

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2008 09:14 PM

What was the name of your first account?

I'll send a password reminder to the e-mail address associated with that account.

Black Mage Jun 30, 2008 09:24 PM

Seems to be relatively unchanged, minus the lack of extra baggage and complexity. Good move, I say.

Anyways, I'm still in. Should be great fun.

troy1516 Jun 30, 2008 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by :words: Overflow (Post 621730)
What was the name of your first account?

I'll send a password reminder to the e-mail address associated with that account.

I dont remimber my first account if I did I would be able to log in because I use the same password all the time:(

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jun 30, 2008 09:45 PM

Then there's not a lot I can do. The burden of proof is on your shoulders.

troy1516 Jun 30, 2008 09:54 PM

This kinda sucks that Im cant join from some guy getting banned :( but I'll get over it

Sousuke Jun 30, 2008 10:46 PM

Crash: I may still sign up, depending on how I feel by the deadline. The last few days though I've been really sick, and just don't feel up to it. I know the actual battling is a ways off though, so we'll see. For now though, I'm out. :/

radcliff13 Jul 1, 2008 08:15 PM

Sign me up!

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 5, 2008 02:49 PM

Sign-ups for this end tonight at 11:59, EDT. Currently, we have eight people signed up. While this is enough to run the draft, I think it'd be far more interesting with some additional participants.

Only a handful of hours remain. Once midnight rolls around, I'll begin drawing random numbers for draft placements.

Josiah Jul 5, 2008 03:05 PM

Sorry to disappoint, but I think I'm gonna sit out on this one. Maybe next time though!

FFTA2 happened, among other things. :eagletear:

Gives the rest of you a chance at trying the birdie of doom, at least.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 5, 2008 11:24 PM

Okay, the deadline has passed. We have eight participants, fewer than hoped but enough to get something going. There will be a total of 48 Pokemon drafted, so the odds of constructing a solid team are quite good. The battles should be tight.

Using Chocodecide, I've determined the order in which players will be selecting Pokemon.

Draft Pick #1:
NinjaguyDan


Draft Pick #2:
Identity Crisis


Draft Pick #3:
Kairyu


Draft Pick #4:
radcliff13


Draft Pick #5:
Chaotic


Draft Pick #6:
Tritoch


Draft Pick #7:
Black Mage


Draft Pick #8:
Crash Landon :(


The order has been determined, and the drafting shall now begin. NinjaguyDan has 48 hours to make his selections. People in the next couple slots should also begin considering their picks, as there's a good chance your preferences will be immediately available. Please try not to hold things up if you know what you want.

Good luck!

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jul 6, 2008 12:04 AM

Good luck, everyone! I'm poke'd out, so I decided not to commit to something I may not be able to finish. But I will be watching intently!

Chaotic Jul 6, 2008 12:53 AM

Great, just what we need. Icy getting a good spot in the draft. :(

5th ain't bad, and god hope I get something good in this.

Black Mage Jul 6, 2008 01:09 AM

Yikes. Second to last?

Oh well, so it goes. It'll be depressinginteresting to see what's left.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 6, 2008 01:14 AM

At least I have the option of drafting my entire team at once. Of course, I'd hoped to at least be in the middle of the stack. 21 of the best Pokemon will be gone before it even comes around to me.

NinjaguyDan Jul 6, 2008 06:09 PM

Do we just post our choices here or pm you crash?

Kairyu Jul 6, 2008 06:25 PM

I don't think it will matter for the tournament itself. Crash will be posting the drafted Pokemon as everyone makes their selection. But if you want to make the thread less cluttered I'd PM him your choices.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 6, 2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaguyDan (Post 624002)
Do we just post our choices here or pm you crash?

It is essentially up to you, sir. If you like, you may PM them. I'll edit the choices into the opening post.

NinjaguyDan Jul 6, 2008 06:30 PM

I don't mind.

tyranitar
Shuckle
Ramparados

Identity Crisis Jul 6, 2008 07:44 PM

In the interest of moving things along, I'll list my choices.

Salamence
Charizard
Skarmory

Enjoy your Dragonite, Kairyu.

Kairyu Jul 6, 2008 10:07 PM

Oh god, Icy got Skarmory. Somebody kill it with fire!

Alright, alright. I'll keep the pattern going:
Dragonite
DragoniteMiltank
DragoniteMamoswine

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 7, 2008 12:10 AM

Hmm, I expected a lot of those to go early. I knew I'd never get Skarmory. Miltank, Shuckle and Rampardos were early surprises, however.

radcliff13 is up now. He has 48 hours to draft.

Chaotic Jul 7, 2008 12:56 AM

Shuckle is has the best defense (both ways) in the game. If Ninja over there didn't choose him, I would've taken him in a heartbeat.

Ramparados, on the other hand, has the best base attack stat in game.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 7, 2008 02:12 AM

Oh, I'm well aware of their advantages. I merely expected other options to go first.

radcliff13 Jul 7, 2008 06:26 AM

I'll go with Gardevoir, Weavile and Lucario

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 7, 2008 09:49 AM

Chaotic, it's now your turn.

Tritoch, you're on deck.

Chaotic Jul 7, 2008 12:16 PM

GOD DAMMIT, RADCLIFF. YOU TOOK THE ONE POKEMON I WANTED.

Metagross
Aerodactyl
Garchomp

Ugh, I had a feeling that someone would take Lucario JUST before I chose. :><:

radcliff13 Jul 7, 2008 05:19 PM

well if it'll make you feel better kairyu took dragonite, the only dragon pokemon I wanted to use...

Chaotic Jul 7, 2008 05:51 PM

But with Kairyu, that's kind of expected of him to actually take Dragonite. You know, since Dragonite in Japanese is Kairyu.

radcliff13 Jul 7, 2008 08:14 PM

Ahh, didn't know that, but ryu does mean dragon...just never made the connection/ never saw the japanese name. Thanks for the info! But I'm still down about Dragonite being picked... ;(

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 7, 2008 09:13 PM

I would've been shocked if Kairyu hadn't chosen Dragonite. Now, as for my picks:

- Vaporeon
- Hypno
- Bastiodon

I'm not well-versed in EVs or stats, so there's a decent chance this will end horribly. :tpg:

Black Mage Jul 7, 2008 09:45 PM

Guess that makes it my turn. I'm actually quite surprised at some of the Pokemon that are left.


-Blissey
-Starmie
-Infernape

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 7, 2008 09:54 PM

Aww, you took Starmie and Blissey! Now I have to think some more.

I'll edit my choices in momentarily. I will be drafting all six, after all.

NinjaguyDan Jul 7, 2008 10:15 PM

Why in gods name would you want Blissy.. it's like 1HKO practice.

Kairyu Jul 7, 2008 10:21 PM

Do you have any idea what those things are capable of?

Aside form being the best special wall in the game it's pretty good at absorbing attacks. It's only real weakness is physical sweepers. But if planned right you can get around that, too.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 7, 2008 10:53 PM

You should fear Blissey. Seriously, it's downright nasty.

Anyhow, I choose the following six Pokemon:

Spoiler:

Heracross
Magnezone
Alakazam
Drapion
Milotic
Electivire


So, the first half of drafting has concluded. The following Pokemon are no longer available: Tyranitar, Shuckle, Rampardos, Salamence, Charizard, Skarmory, Dragonite, Miltank, Mamoswine, Gardevoir, Weavile, Lucario, Metagross, Aerodactyl, Garchomp, Vaporeon, Hypno, Bastiodon, Blissey, Starmie, Infernape, Heracross, Magnezone, Alakazam, Drapion, Milotic, and Electivire.


Black Mage, it's your turn once again.

Black Mage Jul 7, 2008 11:12 PM

Hah hah, you got me back by taking one I wanted. ;)

Here's my last three:

-Gyarados
-Weezing
-Gliscor

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 8, 2008 12:08 AM

Ah crap, you had to go and pick Gyarados. Alright, time to improvise.

- Leafeon
- Gengar
- Floatzel

Chaotic Jul 8, 2008 01:08 AM

This is getting harder. ;_;

- Flygon
- Umbreon
- Crobat

Why hello there common weakness!

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 8, 2008 01:36 AM

Not amongst all three, there isn't. Umbreon only has two, none of which are shared by Crobat and Flygon.

Anyhow, yeah I think it is getting tougher now. There are still a handful that I expect to be claimed but that's no longer a guarantee.

I think this means that radcliff13 is next.

Chaotic Jul 8, 2008 01:38 AM

Yeah, I meant that as my whole team collectively. I have Dragons and Flying Types. Let's figure out what can strike this team down!

At least my team is pretty damn fast. o_o

NinjaguyDan Jul 8, 2008 08:34 PM

Radliff? darn we had a speedy thing going so far with picking..

Actually I consider using umbreon a few times because of his sp def and moonlight, but I'm not super into dark types anymore... absol still looks 1337 to me though.

Chaotic Jul 8, 2008 09:27 PM

Eh, it kinda gives me a reason to keep this signature while I think up of another, but on top of that, I have Umbreon prepared already.

radcliff13 Jul 8, 2008 10:25 PM

Sorry for the delay...but before I make my choice, is there a sleep clause? And if so what is it?

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 8, 2008 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRUSH LONDON
Sleep Clause will be in effect. If you don't know, the Sleep Clause states that you may not place two members of an opponent's party to sleep at the same time, resulting either from a move or an activated Pokemon ability such as "Effect Spore". If you’ve already slept one of their Pokemon, you can not use a sleep move again until that particular Pokemon is awake. If an opponent uses something like Rest to put himself to sleep, then it’s fair game. Otherwise, any player using either of these moves will be disqualifed on the spot.

There you go.

radcliff13 Jul 8, 2008 11:05 PM

Thanks for the info! And the last pokemon that I choose are:
Primeape
Feraligatr
Rotom

Quick question... we still get a full week to prep after the draft is over? B/c the rules state that the prep time ends on the 12th...

Kairyu Jul 8, 2008 11:09 PM

Rotom? Hmm interesting choice. I'll need some time to consider my last three picks (lot's of my initial choices suddenly got swiped!) I'll try not to take too long.

Chaotic Jul 8, 2008 11:36 PM

Primape and Rotom? Interesting. o_o

I pretty much have half my team set up as it is, so prep time shouldn't be as long as the other tournament was for me.

Probably the only ones I gotta set up are Garchomp, Flygon, and Aerodactyl. Shouldn't take me very long at all.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 8, 2008 11:43 PM

My team needs a lot of prep work, but I can just marathon play a couple times. Vaporeon is pretty much my only one I'd consider ready. I've been meaning to train up a new team anyway since I don't care for my current regulars.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 8, 2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radcliff13 (Post 624898)
Thanks for the info! And the last pokemon that I choose are:
Primeape
Feraligatr
Rotom

Quick question... we still get a full week to prep after the draft is over? B/c the rules state that the prep time ends on the 12th...

Yeah, I'll amend that once the draft has concluded. I posted dates more as a general guide than a hard schedule.

Chaotic Jul 8, 2008 11:53 PM

Either way, it's more important that you have the moveset set up and the Pokemon ready. The Internet will do the rest for you by booting them up to level 100.

Black Mage Jul 9, 2008 12:25 AM

Yes, definitely. I've got a few of my choices finished already (hence the pick), but I will be sure not to take nearly as long as I did in the last tournament.

One week, from today even, should be plenty of time for me to be up-and-ready.

Kairyu Jul 9, 2008 01:15 AM

Ack, so few choices. But I think this will work:
Jolteon
Spiritomb
Togekiss

Time to train a couple pokes.

Identity Crisis Jul 9, 2008 01:51 AM

My turn!

Staraptor
Xatu
Jumpluff

Bleh, it was difficult figuring out what my sixth was, but I see Chaotic is hogging up some of my air space. :mad:

Chaotic Jul 9, 2008 01:54 AM

Have at you, Icy. It's time to call in an air strike. :3:

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 9, 2008 02:05 AM

Jumpluff? Now I'm insanely curious.

Anyhow, this leaves NinjaguyDan with the last three. This should be quite interesting.

Kairyu Jul 9, 2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Identity Crisis (Post 624964)
My turn!

Staraptor
Xatu
Jumpluff

Bleh, it was difficult figuring out what my sixth was, but I see Chaotic is hogging up some of my air space. :mad:

Haha, the Aviary of Doom™ is complete. I hope your insurance covers lightning damages because I will call down the thunder. Along with a typical ice storm or two.

I have to say this, too. Jumpluff?! It doesn't even fly under its own power :U

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 9, 2008 02:43 AM

I knew I drafted right against Icy.

NinjaguyDan Jul 9, 2008 09:41 AM

Lol Jumpluff :D Nice pick on Feraligator though.
If anyone doesn't want to waste all their time training I have an AR and I could just make the pokemon for you (I can literally catch them at 99) so pm me or something.

Otherwise:
*drumroll*
*curtain*

Rhyperior

Bronzong

Magnezone

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 9, 2008 10:09 AM

Magnezone was already taken (by me). You'll need to make another selection.

Chaotic Jul 9, 2008 11:52 AM

*cymbal crash*

So much for the perfect draft without anyone mentioning a repeat.

NinjaguyDan Jul 9, 2008 11:59 AM

crap wasn't paying attention

crap! that was picked too... 1 sec

Forretress

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jul 9, 2008 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 624968)
Jumpluff? Now I'm insanely curious.

Helloooo status effects! I'll be extremely interested to see how well he can pull it off.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 9, 2008 01:50 PM

Okay, the drafting has ended! The teams stand as follows:

NinjaguyDan: Tyranitar, Shuckle, Rampardos, Rhyperior, Bronzong, Forretress
Identity Crisis: Salamence, Charizard, Skarmory, Staraptor, Xatu, Jumpluff
Kairyu: Dragonite, Miltank, Mamoswine, Jolteon, Spiritomb, Togekiss
radcliff13: Gardevoir, Weavile, Lucario, Primeape, Feraligatr, Rotom
Chaotic: Metagross, Aerodactyl, Garchomp, Flygon, Umbreon, Crobat
Tritoch: Vaporeon, Hypno, Bastiodon, Leafeon, Gengar, Floatzel
Black Mage: Blissey, Starmie, Infernape, Gyarado, Weezing, Gliscor
Crash Landon: Heracross, Magnezone, Alakazam, Drapion, Milotic, Electivire

We can see that a few strategies are obvious, though no less threatening. There may be a theme in one stable, while a few others have some rather surprising selections (Rampardos, Bastiodon, Jumpluff, Primeape). Will these wind up being advantageous?

Pokemon curiously left out:
Breloom - Guaranteed sleep with good speed and tons of power?
Hippowdon - Powerful tank with Stealth Rock/Roar capabilities?
Dusknoir - Strong defenses and status-giving?
Gallade - Good type combo with nasty sweep potential?
Empoleon - Tons of resistances; Special powerhouse?
Shedinja - Potential gamebreaker?
Arcanine - Super fast, super strong, super evil?
Yanmega - Two fantastic abilities; great leadoff Pokemon?
Swampert - Resistant/immune to most common moves/strategies?
Medicham - Insane strength and movepool, lethal with a Choice Scarf?
Porygon-Z - Special sweeper with enhanced STAB?
Scizor - Great movepool, great Baton Passer?
Roserade - Special beast that gets better in all kinds of weather?
Machamp - Devastating attacks that never miss?
Kingdra - Great type combo with plenty of powerful attacks?
Donphan - Popular Rapid Spinner with beefy attack/defense?
Smeargle - Expect the unexpected?



Okay, so now there will be a week to raise and refine Pokemon for battle. It's more important to have the correct movesets prepared than to worry about stuff like EV training and being fully levelled up. We'll be battling in the Level 100 rooms, so the game will correct your stats before the fight begins.

If people wish to negotiate trades, now is the time. Trades are on a one-for-one basis. You may not trade for a Pokemon that wasn't drafted by any other player.

The training period will last until next Wednesday, July 16th. After that point, battles will commence.

Get to work, folks!

Kairyu Jul 9, 2008 02:28 PM

I haven't considered using some of those. Oh well, from what I did consider:
Kingdra - The one I have is way too slow. Probably has VERY poor IVs, its neutral nature doesn't help much either.
Hippowdon - If Hippowdon could actually take a special attack I'd consider it. Mamoswine seems to be a slightly more appropriate choice anyway.
Empoleon - Whoops! I meant to take it but I thought someone else already did. Maybe next time~
Swampert - This one was about to be added to my team. But I wanted more speed so I opted for Jolteon. I already got a couple sturdy tanks anyway.
Machamp - lol 100% effective Dynamic Punch. It's too bad it falls flat at the first sign of a flying or psychic attack. I blame my bad luck with stats, EV training can only do so much.
Shedinja - This guy tends to be loads of fun but I'm paranoid that someone will use Spikes, Stealth Rock, Hail or Sandstorm before I can even bring it out. I might have picked it if the draft selection wasn't public =p.

Chaotic Jul 9, 2008 05:16 PM

I honestly would've taken Arcanine considering next to Lucario, he's next in line for my favorite Pokemon.

The only problem is that his move set isn't extremely deep. :><:

Same with Kingdra. I was expecting him to get taken somewhere, but I'm surprised there were no biters.

NinjaguyDan Jul 10, 2008 08:17 AM

Would anyone be overly annoyed if I wasn't available until next sunday it would only be like 3 additional days after the training period ended.

Chaotic, did you make that ava?

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jul 11, 2008 02:33 PM

I think Shedinja doesn't really stand much of a chance in a traditional tournament. Too many entry hazards, too many teams with a full variety of pokemon (meaning everyone is going to have at least one clear counter). Maybe if you guys do an Uber-friendly tournament.

I'm absolutely flabbergasted Swampert wasn't chosen though, and I'm a little sad that Empoleon and Breloom didn't find homes. :(

Kairyu Jul 16, 2008 12:18 PM

Ah, the training part wasn't as time consuming as I thought. Anyway, just letting everyone know that I am ready to battle by this evening. If not earlier *I'm at work.*

So expect a PM from me some time today.

Chaotic Jul 16, 2008 01:48 PM

Still doing some last minute touch-ups and I should be ready by tomorrow or Thursday.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 16, 2008 01:56 PM

A few of mine still need extensive work, but I should have them ready by tomorrow night for battling.

Identity Crisis Jul 16, 2008 05:28 PM

I'm done with classes for the remainder of the day, and my team's ready to go. Just be sure to PM me or catch me on Messenger for the match.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'll need your friend code if I haven't already faced you.

Black Mage Jul 16, 2008 09:13 PM

Yep, I'm all-set and good to go as well.

My internet connection is still a little flaky, so we'll have to kind of play it by ear here, but I'm good to go as early as, well, now.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jul 16, 2008 09:46 PM

I think I'm set to go too. Had to reraise one Pokemon and make tweaks to two others.

We're going to need Friend Codes from Tritoch and NinjaguyDan, though.

radcliff13 Jul 17, 2008 10:03 AM

ok I was done raising and everything, but i accidentally released a pokemon that I was going to use... So I should be able to battle by friday night. Sorry for the delay!! I'm working my arse off trying to get a decent one again!

Kairyu Jul 17, 2008 11:49 PM

Hahaha, I finally did it! I destroyed Icy in a Pokemon match.

Though I'll admit his obvious weakness to certain attacks is the reason I won so handily. Still, it was mostly a good match. Probably not so much for Icy. Sorry bud!

(See Icy's post for the juicy details.)

Identity Crisis Jul 17, 2008 11:50 PM

First results up!

Kairyu vs. Identity Crisis:
Round One
I anticipated Kairyu would lead off with a certain Pokemon, and he predicted my exact countermeasure to his lead off. This game wasn't even close for me once my countermeasure was, well, countermeasured. ;_;

Round Two
This one was much closer. It all came down to the wire when Kairyu's last Pokemon managed to deal the finishing blow against my last Pokemon, Steven. I thought I had that one, too, based on how much damage was dealt by the opposition's last attack. Blargh.

Kairyu wins! (2-0)
Pokemon Kairyu defeated: 9
Pokemon I defeated: 2 (._.)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairyu (Post 628112)
Hahaha, I finally did it! I destroyed Icy in a Pokemon match.

I'll get you next time, Gadget! Next tiiiiiiiime! :argh:

Black Mage Jul 18, 2008 08:46 PM

Alright, it looks like the wireless I have access to in my apartment is going to be inconsistent this week. So, I will make use of an establishment with WiFi tomorrow.

However, I don't want to make the trek if no one is going to be available tomorrow. So, if anyone will be available to battle, let's say, from 1pm - 8pm PST tomorrow drop me a line. If there's a time tomorrow not in that range you'll be available, let me know too and I'll see what I can do.

I'll make sure to confirm the times I'll be free tomorrow before I make any promises later tonight.

Kairyu Jul 18, 2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Identity Crisis (Post 628113)
I'll get you next time, Gadget! Next tiiiiiiiime! :argh:

Go-Go gadget counteroffensive!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Mage (Post 628368)
Alright, it looks like the wireless I have access to in my apartment is going to be inconsistent this week. So, I will make use of an establishment with WiFi tomorrow.

However, I don't want to make the trek if no one is going to be available tomorrow. So, if anyone will be available to battle, let's say, from 1pm - 8pm PST tomorrow drop me a line. If there's a time tomorrow not in that range you'll be available, let me know too and I'll see what I can do.

I'll make sure to confirm the times I'll be free tomorrow before I make any promises later tonight.

Awesome. I'll make myself available around that time then. I've got my msn and miranda/AIM IM online as well in case you (or anyone) decides to contact me for a match.

Black Mage Jul 19, 2008 03:01 AM

I feel terrible doing it, but I'm going to have to go back on that plan and make it Sunday instead of Saturday. I'm sorry about the short notice here Kairyu, but something I have to take care of came up.

I will, concretely this time, be available for the same times (1pm - 8pm PST) this Sunday. Just let me know if/when you'll be free during that time and we can work it out from there.

Sorry again for the change of plans. :-/

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 19, 2008 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 627704)
We're going to need Friend Codes from Tritoch and NinjaguyDan, though.

I put my code on the wiki a few weeks ago, but here it is.

0860-4525-6999

I should be set to battle tomorrow night.

Kairyu Jul 19, 2008 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Mage (Post 628451)
I feel terrible doing it, but I'm going to have to go back on that plan and make it Sunday instead of Saturday. I'm sorry about the short notice here Kairyu, but something I have to take care of came up.

I will, concretely this time, be available for the same times (1pm - 8pm PST) this Sunday. Just let me know if/when you'll be free during that time and we can work it out from there.

Sorry again for the change of plans. :-/

Bah, I knew I jumped the gun after reading your plans more carefully. There's a good chance I won't be available on Sunday since I'm needed to help install a sub for a car. I don't think it will take long so I should be able to make it home and start some matches. I hope.

Kairyu Jul 20, 2008 07:02 PM

Second results!

Black Mage vs Kairyu:
Round 1 (6v6)
I could've picked a better opener but I didn't think about that until the match was well underway. Definitely a very one-sided match but I think BM got too sure of himself towards the end so I tried taking advantage of that. Which didn't work for the most part. But I did get away with a few KOs. Overall, it was mostly a snooze-fest of a match and it gave me a renewed hate towards Wheezing. Oh well, good game ~ :gonk:
(Black Mage barely finishes with 3 pokemon.)

Round 2 (3v3)
Looks like I got the initial advantage here. Enyo taught BM's Infernape that monkeys can't do much during an Earthquake. It was a OHKO. Some time after that I got put into nice stall match against his Blissey versus my Jolteon. It sucked but at least I went down fighting till the bitter end. God, do I hate Blisseys *shakes fist*
(Only KO'd one of his pokemon here.)

Black Mage wins! (2-0)
Pokemon Black Mage defeated: 9
Pokemon I defeated: 4

Black Mage Jul 20, 2008 09:23 PM

Third results have arrived.

Identity Crisis vs Black Mage:

Round 1 (6v6)
I started off with what I figured would be the bane of Icy's team, but in fact, it was his lead that caused me trouble. Icy's lead managed to severly injure two of my Pokemon before finally being put down. After a little back and forth, it came to a victory on my end. And though I had three Pokemon remaining, this match was very close. If my prosecutor had been defeated, I would have been left with two sitting ducks.

Black Mage lost 3
Identity Crisis lost 6

Round 2 (3v3)
Even though the last match was close, this match was ever-so-much closer. I didn't change much up with my lead in this match, which proved to not work out in my favor. After some finagling, I KO'd Icy's lead. I thought I had his strategy figured out, but he was one step ahead of me, forcing me to switch. A powerful hit put me in a predicament, but due to a lucky bit of HP, I managed to squeak by a hit with my last Pokemon to pull the win. In all honesty, if the match lasted one turn longer, Icy had the win.

Black Mage lost 2
Identity Crisis lost 3

Black Mage wins! (2-0)
Pokemon Identity Crisis defeated: 5
Pokemon I defeated: 9

NinjaguyDan Jul 21, 2008 08:19 AM

Ok my code is 1719 4998 0830

I am free for most of today

radcliff13 Jul 23, 2008 06:02 PM

sorry for the disappearance!! There was a huge thunder storm in my area and it knocked out power and screwed my internet up and I just got it fixed today!! So I should be around in 3 hours or so, just PM me!!

NinjaguyDan Jul 23, 2008 10:24 PM

~so how do I work those hide tags?

Battle Vs Radcliff:

6v6:
Radclif had a 1HKO on my Tyr which was rough, but then I started doing well... Then he sent Lucario out. End of story for me, he had 4 left.

3 v 3:
I strategized better on this one and I managed to edge him out with 1 pokemon left.

3 v 3:
Battle went similarly except I managed 2 1HKO's and won.

Battle vs Black Mage:

6 v 6
Man I have to say I had no idea what kind of strats he was going to put out and they paid off
I did everything I could but I was eventually taken out buy a dreadful mix of Blissey and Weezing.
BM had 1HKO and won with two pokemon remaining.

3 v 3
I came at BM with everything I had for this one and even though it got pretty darn close I only managed to
knock out one of BM's pokemon before he finished me off.

Great Fights both of you! That was some tough stuff, and I definately learned alot from those battles.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jul 24, 2008 12:27 AM

Hey, some results!

Spoiler:
6v6

This one was neck and neck right up to the end. Unfortunately, my water guys were toast by the time he pulled out his Charizard, and he scored a critical hit on my Gengar to one-shot it.

- Tritoch lost 6
- Identity Crisis lost 4

3v3

We had to do this one twice since my router screwed up after we'd both lost 1 the first time. Second go around I was mauled by Steven.

- Tritoch lost 3
- Identity Crisis lost 1

Identity Crisis wins 2-0!
Tritoch lost 9 pokemon.
Identity Crisis lost 5 pokemon.

Also, Jumpluff is the spawn of Satan.

Black Mage Jul 24, 2008 10:00 PM

The results continue to come in.

Tritoch vs Black Mage:

Round 1 (6v6)
Tritoch and I started off this match with very little trouble in the connection front. Unfortunately for me, Tritoch definitely picked the better leading Pokemon. Luck was on my side in the accuracy department though, and a couple of misses allowed the KingOfHell to rear its ugly head. Tritoch suffered a few loses until he forced out said King, but was met with Starmie instead.

Black Mage lost 0
Tritoch lost 6

Round 2 (3v3)
There are times when some Pokemon just cannot stop another. I experienced this in the Gym Battle tournament against Crash, and as it turns out Starmie was once again the culprit. Tag-teaming with the KingOfHell proved devastating, but Tritoch fought to the bitter end and made the most of it. We had a bit of a laugh at AN EXTREMELY POWERFUL MOVE fizzling out at the last second.

Black Mage lost 0
Tritoch lost 3

Good matches Tritoch!

Black Mage wins! (2-0)
Pokemon Tritoch defeated: 0
Pokemon I defeated: 9

radcliff13 Jul 25, 2008 12:39 AM

Black Mage vs Radcliff92:

Round 1: Well the first round took some time, but in the end BM won it out.
Round 2: This was poor planning on my part and it was a very easy win for BM.

Black Mage wins!! 2-0
BM lost 3
Radcliff lost 9

Kairyu Jul 25, 2008 12:47 AM

Good game, radcliff :)

radcliff13 vs Kairyu:
Round 1 (6v6)
Kai picks a bad opener again. But with a little luck I pulled through with some crazy hits. We traded KOs for a bit but I stopped that when radcliff provided an opening for me to counter back not once. But twice on his two of his pokemon*!* Things got very grim for rad and eventually I won with some well placed Thunderbolts.
(Radcliff defeats 2 of my pokemon. Not bad.)

Round 2 (3v3)
I thought I was screwed when I saw what rad brought out first. A Primeape versus my Jolteon with less than stellar physical defenses. I was hoping it would scare off his Primeape into switching but I think he knew I wasn't at the advantage, despite knowing what my Jolteon is capable of. Sacrifices had to be made for me to regain control and it turns out I was right. A few moves later I had the game in the bag.
(I lose one pokemon here.)

Kairyu wins! (2-0)
Pokemon radcliff defeated: 3
Pokemon I defeated: 9

Chaotic Jul 31, 2008 07:05 AM

Ugh, I apologize not replying to PMs for battling. I've been busy as of lately and by the time I had received the PMs, it would've been too late for me to battle.

I'm ready to fight around 11 PM EST to about 3 AM EST. So if anyone wants to catch me around that time, feel free to PM me.

Icy, you're first since we've been holding off our battle for too long and I apologize for that as well.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 4, 2008 10:22 PM

Well, this seems to have died down a bit. I'm going to be out of town from Thursday til Monday, so to anyone who still needs a battle with me the next two days would be ideal. I'm usually available any time after 7pm EST.

Kairyu Aug 4, 2008 11:13 PM

It sure did. I haven't had much time to play either. I'm just too busy at work or planning for that trip. I'll be able to get off early tomorrow so we can get our match out of the way~ that is, if you don't have any other matches planned.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 4, 2008 11:18 PM

Nope, haven't heard from anyone since I battled Black Mage. Since you're taking off work early tomorrow for it we'll definitely have our match.

Kairyu Aug 5, 2008 11:17 PM

Another match completed!
Tritoch vs Kairyu:
Round 1 (6v6)
Looking at Tritoch's current track record I was expecting an easy 6v6. Turns out it became a moderately CLOSE match. I say moderately because my flying Egg pokemon dealt some solid hits towards the end and survived a crap load of attacks. Embarrassingly, my Dragonite didn't fare too well. Totally got defeated by his Bastiodon ;______;. And then his Vaporeon made less than polite gestures with water attacks. But I killed that before things got freaky. All in all, I made it out alive with two pokemon =D

Round 2 (3v3)
Wax on, wax off. I've achieved perfection in this match. My flying egg is unstoppable, even after being paralyzed by a thunder attack.

Kairyu wins! (2-0)
Pokemon Tritoch defeated: 4
Pokemon I defeated: 9


Good game though, you had me worried when you took out my Dragonite like it was nothing.

NinjaguyDan Aug 7, 2008 04:44 PM

If anyone is up for a battle tonight from now until midnight est pm me.

Identity Crisis Aug 10, 2008 10:47 PM

One more match report.

NinjaguyDan vs. Identity Crisis:

Round One
My memory is a bit fuzzy on the first two matches. NinjaguyDan and I actually started a couple of days ago, but his router was experiencing some technical difficulties around the third match. We had to reschedule up to today to finish our third match.

All I remember is setting up one of his Pokemon in which Steven would happily dance his way to victory and sweep the rest of the competition.

I win!
I lose 2 Pokemon
NinjaguyDan loses 6 Pokemon

Round Two
My spawn of Satan goes to town on several of his Pokemon before going down, but, due to a particularly stupid switch on my end, I lose the rest of my team.

NinjaguyDan wins!
I lose 3 Pokemon
NinjaguyDan loses 1 Pokemon

Round Three
This is arguably the closest match I have ever played. Each of us anticipated our next moves quite flawlessly. A particularly clever setup on NinjaguyDan's side would make me waste an essential turn, and one of my Pokemon inflicted a nasty OHKO on a Pokemon NinjaguyDan tried to switch in.

We eventually sent our last Pokemon out. His Pokemon managed to survive with 8 HP and a burn status when it dealt the finishing blow!

NinjaguyDan wins!
I lose 3 Pokemon
NinjaguyDan loses 2 Pokemon

NinjaguyDan wins the match!


So, um, Chaotic, when's our match going to get started, eh? :eye:

Kairyu Aug 10, 2008 11:10 PM

Damn, I usually don't resort to this but I think I will have to drop out of this tournament. Starting tomorrow I will be unavailable to do any matches for the next 12 days or so, going traveling. To another country. I was hoping I'd be done well before that but that's what happens when we're slacking.

I have no idea if Crash wants to extend this tournament any longer. If he doesn't then I will automatically step down to help keep this game moving.

The Plane Is A Tiger Aug 11, 2008 05:29 PM

I don't know, as slowly as these matches are progressing I doubt you need to drop out for a 12 day absence. With classes starting back in the next week or two the delays will likely only get worse anyway.

NinjaguyDan Aug 11, 2008 09:33 PM

I don't mind waiting. I'm getting ready for college so it's not like I'm rushing out to make a match.

Black Mage Sep 1, 2008 09:46 PM

Well, I'm back on the East Coast again, with a reliable internet connection.

I see there's been no real activity for some time, so can we assume this tournament dead or is there interest in picking back up?

Kairyu Sep 1, 2008 10:12 PM

I wouldn't mind finishing this tournament. But if more than half of us is too busy, lost interest, etc then maybe the tournament should be dropped. I'm slightly more on the "too busy" reason myself but I can make time for matches, when asked.


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