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Metal Sphere Jun 26, 2008 09:03 AM

Arc Rise Fantasia
 
Folks looking for an RPG fix beyond Tales of Symphonia 2: Knights of Rattata are in luck. Arc Rise Fantasia looks like an interesting amalgam of various series we've grown accustomed to, and I have to say I like the overall look of the game. Since I can't read japanese I'm limited to looking at the pretty pictures, but if anyone can, please fill us in.

In the meantime, enjoy the scans (I tried going to the site listed on one of the pages, no luck):


Lacerta Jun 26, 2008 09:13 AM

Here's another scan:



I don't have high high hopes for it, but it does catch my interest.

Metal Sphere Jun 26, 2008 09:21 AM

Ah, thanks for the missing scan. Apparently Yasunori Mitsuda and the character designer for Eureka 7 are working on this one. The latter one wasn't much of a surprise, given that's what I was instantly reminded of when gazing upon these characters.

Lacerta Jun 26, 2008 09:43 AM

It's being developed by Image Epoch, so you know what that means.

It'll be pretty but buggy and/or crappy.

Also the scenario writers from symphonia and abyss will be on it, with symphonia's being the director.

I expect lots of INFERIOR BEINGS to be thrown about.

The Plane Is A Tiger Jun 26, 2008 10:47 AM

What other stuff has Image Epoch done? The name doesn't ring a bell right off.

So far this game looks pretty good, but admittedly I'll say that about anything that involves fighting dragons on the deck of an airship. My first thought looking at these scans was how the pink-haired girl looks exactly like Anemone in the last episode of Eureka Seven, so it's not surprising that it's the same guy and not a bad thing either.

Omnislash124 Jun 26, 2008 10:56 AM

Image Epoch did Luminous Arc (on the DS).

I don't know, I actually really enjoyed Luminous Arc. I'm pretty excited, actually, the Wii does need some more RPGs too, so I expect to pick this up if it does turn out nice.

nuttyturnip Jun 26, 2008 11:17 AM

I'm playing through Luminous Arc right now, and it's "meh" at best. The storyline is not unlike the original FFT (in that you're fighting the church and an evil god) but the actual characters are blatant anime stereotypes. The unskipable dialogue and mostly very easy battles get old after awhile. The presentation is very sloppy in places. For example, random battles generally have the same enemy configuration at the same level, so it's very hard to level up. There's a standard height restriction on everything (I understand not being able to shoot arrows up a hill, but why can't I shoot downwards? Why does magic have a height restriction?)

Luminous Arc isn't a bad game, but it doesn't make me wholely excited for Arc Rise Fantasia.

Omnislash124 Jun 26, 2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 620266)
but the actual characters are blatant anime stereotypes.

I found that to be a good thing, personally.

As for arrow physics and magic technicalities, I didn't really mind them, as I got used to it after a while. I don't recall not being able to skip through dialogue either. I will agree though, battles are for the most part, quite easy.

Arc Rise Fantasia looks like more turn-based fare, which I prefer over active RPGs. Still a bit early to make a call though. It is coming over to the US, right? Not just a Japan only deal, right?

Metal Sphere Jun 26, 2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omnislash124 (Post 620276)
It is coming over to the US, right? Not just a Japan only deal, right?

We'll have to wait and see with regards to a NA release. I don't see a reason why this wouldn't come over on the heels of ToS or something.

Dark Nation Jun 26, 2008 12:26 PM

The character designs look about what I'd expect from a Game with "Arc" and "Fantasia" in the title. Looks like Star Ocean 3 so far in the graphics department.

My interest is only minimal at this point.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jun 26, 2008 06:11 PM

NeoGAF had a thread a while back that painted a pretty bright picture for Image Epoch's future. Since the release of Luminous Arc, they've been steadily increasing their regular staff, as well as picking up several prominent people from other companies.

So, for now, I am optimistic. Not excited, but optimistic.

Hindman Jun 28, 2008 06:42 AM

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...siascreen4.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...iascreen13.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...siascreen5.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...iascreen11.jpg

http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...siascreen9.jpg http://www.rpgland.com/content/media...siascreen3.jpg

Hindman Sep 27, 2008 03:11 AM

Guaranteed minimum 1 million copies sold in Japan:
Arc Rise Fantasia to feature undertit | RPG Land

Kesubei Oct 2, 2008 10:37 AM

The graphics and art are pretty good at least. It looks pretty generic, but it's better than having [i]no[i/] traditional RPGs on the Wii. I hope there are no random battles, though.

Nintendo's conference video has a short clip of this game in action, towards the end.

FatsDomino Oct 2, 2008 03:26 PM

The Eureka seveN designer dude must have a forehead fetish. This game looks sort of interesting and the Wii could use an RPG.

Dark Nation Oct 2, 2008 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 649299)
The Eureka seveN designer dude must have a forehead fetish.

He's not the only one:

http://www.mywii.com.au/img/game/Code-Lyoko-1.jpg

FatsDomino Oct 2, 2008 03:57 PM

Good lord.

Dhsu Oct 2, 2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hindman (Post 620917)

Haven't we moved past the "good guys and enemies standing still on opposite sides of a flat arena" thing yet? I mean you can do this in RPGMaker for Pete's sake.

The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 2, 2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 649309)
Haven't we moved past the "good guys and enemies standing still on opposite sides of a flat arena" thing yet? I mean you can do this in RPGMaker for Pete's sake.

No, and I hope we never do. There must always be inexplicably polite monsters in at least some of our RPGs!

DN, isn't Code Lyoko French? Foreheads are probably the least worrying fetish in that show.

Taco Oct 2, 2008 05:39 PM

SMT: Nocturne spoiled me as far as Turn Based combat goes. If it's not at least that fast, it's too slow.

This will probably fall under "too slow" :(

Omnislash124 Oct 2, 2008 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco (Post 649315)
SMT: Nocturne spoiled me as far as Turn Based combat goes. If it's not at least that fast, it's too slow.

This will probably fall under "too slow" :(

I don't see how you could go any slower than Nocturne. Well, maybe if there was no auto battle to turn on.

Either way, the Wii's not exactly brimming with RPGs, so I'm still quite interested in this.

MuppeTFuckeR Oct 9, 2008 04:54 PM

some CG and gameplay footage TGS 08
 
YouTube Video

Kesubei Oct 9, 2008 05:42 PM

A US release has been confirmed: GoNintendo.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Oct 9, 2008 10:22 PM

Waiting for that to happen, expecting the publisher to be XSEED-- yes, yes, it is.

Great news. The Wii is finally starting to get some RPGs, and it's nice to see that most of them are making it over. Opoona and Chocobo's Dungeon only have so much replay value.

Zeta26 Oct 13, 2008 12:37 PM

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing on another board that Nintendo's finally getting it's act together. Instead of just producing those "cutsey" games. Though, those casual games aren't bad. It's just Nintendo needs to move out of it's comfort zone and ask other developers to develop games like these for Wii.

MuppeTFuckeR Oct 24, 2008 02:08 PM

first official trailer
 
YouTube Video
same, but better quality video here (scroll down) - www.famitsu.com/game/news/1219230_1124.html

MuppeTFuckeR Oct 31, 2008 01:33 PM

new interview from siliconera
 
An Impromptu Chat With Marvelous And The President Of Imageepoch - Siliconera An Impromptu Chat With Marvelous And The President Of Imageepoch

By Spencer . October 27, 2008 . 9:34pm

Back at Tokyo Game Show I caught with Ryoei Mikage, the President of Imageepoch, and Hideyuki Mizutani, Operating Officer at Marvelous Entertainment. We talked about a lot of things. You already know about one of them. We touched on Arc Rise Fantasia’s story, the Arc Rise Fantasia series, and Imageepoch’s future projects. Yes, the Arc Rise Fantasia series. Down the road Arc Rise Fantasia could be part of a series, but this kind of plan will only come into fruition if the first game sells.



I played Arc Rise Fantasia using the Classic Controller. Do you plan to implement motion control too?



Hideyuki Mizutani, Operating Officer at Marvelous Entertainment: For the game you can use the Classic Controller, Gamecube controller, and Nunchuck/Wii remote. But, we don’t really utilize the capability of swinging it since we were thinking of a traditional RPG where you sit down and enjoy it for a long period of time.



Can you tell us about the story?



Ryoei Mikage, President of Imageepoch: There are creatures called Fallen Dragons (note: English names have not been decided yet) and they cause disasters within the world. There is also an energy called Ray, sort of like a magical energy and different countries, different places are fighting against each other over the Ray. The natural balance of the world is thrown off so all of these monsters are appearing. In the midst of that there is a boy and a girl. They both have an important part, sort of like the key of the world. Depending on the decisions they make they can change the balance of the world.




How long do you think it will take for someone to complete Arc Rise Fantasia?



HM: Only the story part alone, probably 40 hours. Include the sub-quests and extra additional parts, 10-20 hours more.



Out of all the main characters which one is your favorite?



RM: We haven’t announced those yet so… it’s hard to say. Please wait. We’ll be announced a male character soon and I like that one.



The one wearing red?



RM: Not that one…




Arc Rise Fantasia is not related to Luminous Arc at all right?



HM: No.



Let’s switch to Luminous Arc for a second. I saw a mobile game at TGS, but are you planning on making another game for the DS or consoles?



HM: For the mobile game it’s based on the first Luminous Arc. As for the using the first Luminous Arc we’re not planning anything to make it into another console game for now.




Are you concerned about the sales of Arc Rise Fantasia on the Wii? Some core games on the Wii haven’t sold so well. Namco Bandai’s Tales of Symphonia, an established brand, might be one of the exceptions.



RM: In our minds if it’s goes close to Tales of Symphonia we’ll be satisfied. We’re thinking about expanding Arc Rise Fantasia into second and third sequels. As for the first one we’re not thinking it’s going to be that much of a big hit.



For a sequel are you thinking of using the same characters or using completely different characters and a new world like the Final Fantasy series?



HM: [Laughs] If we are going to make a sequel, if we can make a sequel it’s closer to Final Fantasy, but I don’t want to say that because Final Fantasy completely changes the story and their characters. It will have common elements, a bit of different characters and a bit of a different story.



Are you already planning a sequel?



RM: No comment. Right now we’re working on a lot of different action games as well so we’re learning and applying action skills. The basic concept of Imageepoch is fantasy games. That doesn’t really mean RPG or action. Our games are within the fantasy genre.



What kind of action game would you make? Would you make one with lots of shaking for the Wii or something very difficult like Ninja Gaiden?



RM: More like Super Mario Galaxy-ish.



So… kind of cute?



RM: We’re experimenting with a Resident Evil-type and we’re also experimenting stuff with a Super Mario Galaxy-type. At Imageepoch it’s not like ‘this is only the type of brand that we do’. It’s like would it be interesting to do this? We don’t really have a solid statement, but we’re playing around a lot.



If you were working on an action game will use the characters from Arc Rise Fantasia or Luminous Arc?



RM: That would be great.



HM: That would be great, but we haven’t thought of that yet.



It seems like Imageepoch has grown so much. Are you hiring people every day to work on new projects?




RM: I have been working in the gaming industry since I was 16 years old, while I was still in high school. I worked at Koei, Square Enix, and Namco Bandai during my high school and college years. All of the people I worked with back then like the movie designer and scenario designer currently at Imageepoch were people that taught me what gaming was about. Since I have a long relationship with them I don’t feel like it’s becoming a different company by hiring, it’s adding my old friends.



Is Marvelous is planning on publishing many more Imageepoch games?



HM: Definitely, that would be great.



RM: We want to take it a step at a time to make something great each and every time. If one title sells you can kind of think we’re making two. If two sells than we’re working on four titles.



For these projects is Marvelous planning them or is Imageepoch pitching games to Marvelous?



HM: Right now, it’s a little bit of both.



RM: Because we have a really good relationship. Honestly, we see each other two or three times a week. It’s not really like getting together and pitching them ideas. We are constantly talking about what we can do so it’s like it would be great to this and vice versa. Sometimes Mizutani-san will come up with three keyword phrases and pitch that to me and I would say what about this kind of game design? Then Mizutani-san would say that exactly was what I was talking about! It’s a really quick process so it’s easy to work with Marvelous.



Right now we’ve seen all of the Marvelous published Imageepoch games come out in America. Are you designing games for Japan first and then seeing if they work for North America or are you making games with a worldwide audience since Marvelous has a partnership with Xseed?



HM: We’re thinking about the US from the beginning. - source again


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