PS3 or XBOX 360 or Elite on the BBC Micro
 

Hello folks,

I am going completely crazy. I must chose one of those 2: xbox 360 elite or a PS3. I've been reading all the threads i could find for at least 2 weeks, checking the specs and the game library... Almost all those things are identical (i don't really need a blue-ray) except some specs here but then it's balanced with another spec there or exclusive games like Halo or ninja gaiden... So i still can't decide. That's why i ask you the question, i don't need more specs or game list but more your opinions, you who have those consoles for a while, what would you advise?

Flip a coin.

A chocolate coin.

Into your mouth!

I don't how what to suggest in regards to your console crisis though, sorry!

I have both an Xbox 360 and a PS3. I have not spent more than a total of maybe 4 or 5 hours playing any game on my PS3 in the past five months. I play my 360 almost every day. There, I have made a point without providing specs or a game list.

Yeah, this is exactly the kind of advice i'm looking for, thanks mate ;)

I've been wondering this myself. In about a month, I'll have saved up enough money for one, and I gotta choose.

I'm leaning towards the 360, but games like MGS4, the next FF and KH, make me take a harder look at the PS3.

If only there were more non-shooters for the 360. The decision would be so easier.

And I'm just the opposite of russ. I have a 360, PS3, and a Wii, and my PS3 is pretty much the only machine I use. I bought the 360 for Mass Effect which is coming out for the PC today and the Wii...well I'm giving that away to my mother.

I think it boils down to this -- are you a Halo/Ninja Gaiden fan? Get a 360. Are you a Metal Gear Solid/Final Fantasy fan? Get a PS3.

If you're a videogamer in general, there's no reason not own a 360. If you're more RPG desperate, then the PS3 is one with potential. Then again, right now the 360 has Lost Odyssey and Eternal Sonata, so.

I have both a 360 and a PS3. Or rather, I own both, but my friend has my PS3 right now as I don't play on it.

They're both fine machines and while 360 has the obvious benefit of a superior controller, it really comes down to which has the exclusives to interest me. Of the big PS3 exclusives everyone's all excited about, I myself am not all that anxious for MGS4 or FFXIII. Motorstorm 2 and Project Thrico though? Those are going to be great.

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With multiplat games I prefer to go for the 360 version because of the better controller. Can't really recall which 360 exclusives I'm looking forward to. Perfectly content playing my backlog of old Xbox games, actually.

Xbox 360: where even the RPGs are shooters.

Kind of has a nice ring to it.

Most of the 360 shooters (outside the exclusives) are on PS3 as well (even Bioshock now). That's current gen in general, not just 360.

Not that the PS3 doesn't have its share of exclusive shooters either. Resistance 1 and 2, Killzone 2, Uncharted (anyone who calls this an adventure game is an idiot) and Haze recently.

Well, when i look at titles like Halo and Ninja Gaiden, mixed with the amount of people sharing their friend code, i must admit that the xbox 360 elite attracts me more than the ps3.
I think that when i ask other people's opinion, i secretly am looking for people to comfort me in the idea to buy the xbox 360. It perhaps means that, deep down, i already know which one i want...

One the tech side, isn't the ps3 more adapted for wifi connections (my case)? and has more codecs for playing all my animes?

I don't know about the codecs, but yeah the PS3 has a wireless network adapter built-in, whereas you're gonna throw down another $100 to get that same setup on your 360.

DualShock 3 ftw, Q.

Dual shock 3 still has the shitty triggers. Confirm or deny? Additionally, the analog/control pad layout is just silly, since how many games primarily use the d-pad now, yet it is in the more prominent location. Sorry, but the 360 controller's layout makes more sense, and the triggers do not feel like peanut butter.

To each his own is the ultimate answer here russ. You like the 360 controller, which I'm not saying is bad either, but I prefer the Dual Shock 3.

I've never minded the layout of the dual shock. The triggers are admittedly crappy, but my biggest issue was always the flimsy analogue sticks. They are just too light and loose for my taste and make playing most games requiring aiming a bigger chore than it should be. Which is why I, again, go for the 360 versions with multiplats. The sticks are pretty decent for platforming and adventuring.

Codec wise they are the same, and since you mentioned anime i take it you'll only need xvid/divx which both support.
If you want a pure media center go with the ps3, bluray player and the new firmwire puts in support for hdmi 1,3 and ps3 has better support for hd sound with 7 speakers.

Game wise a lot is the same, ps3 has mgs4 and 360 has halo i guess. Microsofts multiplayer service is much smoother and better in my opinion. But the nerds above me know more about the games then me so insert whatever they said.

This feels like its going to become a ps3 vs 360 war.

The topic wasn't enough to tip you off to that, Karasu?

Touche Rotor, touche.

Would it not be advantageous to test out which one you'd like more by going to your nearest blockbuster and renting them each for a week with a selection of whatever titles you're interested in? It's probably a much easier way to decide than going off the thoughts of anyone here. It'll save you money in the long run if you end up deciding you're not a fan of whatever you just bought.

Controller: 360 takes the cake. Do they even sell the Dualshock3 with the consoles in the US now? I know they don't do that in Europe (yet). The pad layout of the 360 pad is better than the old Dualshock one. The anlouge sticks themselves are better and more responsive. The triggers are better. Overall, the 360 pad feels more solid, heavier, just... nicer to touch and to hold.

Games: 360 takes the cake. At least for now. It has the advantage of being out a year longer. Thus there are more games for it. Plus, most multiplats are better working on 360. At least for now.
The PS3 though has SCE and their teams, which are very good companies all of them (Naughty Dog, Team ICO, etc.). They just haven't gotten around making that killer app yet, sadly.

Console itself: PS3 takes the cake. It's much quieter. It produces a lot less heat (in summer that's kinda important...). And due to the RROD issue, which is mostly a psychological thing - with me at least - you won't have to fear the console kicking the bucket every time you have a longer play session. Plus, it doesn't have an external PSU, and can be plugged in with a standardized cable.

I guess it really depends. The 360 already has a very solid library. The PS3 is just spinning up in that department, and will probably have a good library with the coming christmas season. They're both pretty good machines (one with a faulty hardware architecture, but as long as it doesn't break down it's a good machine).
Nonetheless, Skills has a point. You also could just set up an account on PSN / LIVE! and download some demos to see if you like the consoles line up.

Thank you all for your answers. If i could i would rent the consoles, each for a week but i live in a very small town and unfortunately there isn't any place where i could do it T_T
That's why your opinions were very nice, i know all i was wondering about. And i think i'll just go for the 360, the game library, the paddle, the online stuff, that's a lot on one side of the scale... So thank you all again ^_-

Two brain damaged clowns fighting over half a plastic Christmas tree at the dump.

It's the best war ever!

Hey man, that plastic tree has a lot of sentimental value. The one of them has an older brother (let's call him Steve) who used to own it just a little while ago, and the other one's father was murdered by Steve in cold blood almost 4 years ago.

Just because their neighbour went out and got a new tree doesn't mean shit to these folks.

On that note, I'd suggest not bothering with the Elite and getting the normal model. You can then spend the money you save on the wireless adaptor. Unless you're going to be storing a shit load of media files on it, you're very unlikely to fill up the HDD on the standard model and unless you're gay for black consoles, there's little other benefit I see in buying an Elite.

I think you've made the right choice going for the 360, on the overlook of both at this thread we can easily see that for games and gameplay (offline and online) that the 360 is just a lot more solid and has it's roots already very much set in the game market soil while PS3 is still only just sprouting really and yes i have kinda said what everyone else has but i felt i wanted my opinion to be heard for your help.

P.S. Moderators i am sorting my signiture out just plz don't give me anymore points thanks it will be sorted shortley :D

Sixaxis, Assassins Creed (looks and plays much better on PS3), Grand Theft Auto IV (looks about 2x as good as 360 Elite), new FF, Blu-Ray capabilities VS. Wireless XBox controller, Halo 3 (and possibly a new Halo game), and by the way, does anyone know if RE5 is going to be PS3 exclusive? Probably not. Well I know you didn't want a specs or games list but this is just a rough comparison of what comes off the top of my head as a person in the same position as you, who owns neither console. Personally, I like the PS3 alot better but I agree with russ in that the XBox controller is more modern and sensible; but you still gotta love the Sixaxis. :). After all is said and done, it's your call, friend.

I'm not your friend, buddy!

I'm not your buddy, guy!

You can't even charge it through USB without spending more money for some gayass charging kit. Though that's an ongoing theme with the 360. Want wireless networking? Buy a separate adapter. Want a bigger hard drive? Buy Microsoft's proprietary one for 180 dollars. Want to play online? Pay a monthly fee. Want an HD movie player? Buy... oh wait. :eagletear:

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The PS3 was definitely weak during its first year, but now the price has been dropped, the console's firmware has been much improved and will completely catch up with the 360 this month (with the addition of in-game XMB and game trophies), and I think its interface is much more elegant than the Dashboard, plus the console itself is probably the best-looking ever. As for the games, with fantastic exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, LittleBigPlanet and Valkyria Chronicles, I think the PS3 is the clear winner this year.

That said, I am mostly being facetious, of course. Just pick whichever console has more exclusives that you want. And at least weren't even considering the Wii. Nintendo fans are the worst kind of scum.

Also,

That's one thing I wouldn't defend about the PS3. I mean the motion sensor is just shit, completely worthless. Removing vibration was a fiasco. At least DualShock 3 is finally available now, so it's not a problem anymore.

Y'know, I never understood why people defend the PSN or NWC with statements of "it's free, so it's superior to XBL". For five fucking measly dollars a month, the service and quality of the experience you'll get is much better.

a) I wasn't 'defending' PSN (I don't think it needs to be defended)

b) I didn't say it was superior to Live. Both services work fine as far as I'm concerned; whichever is used by more of your friends is 'superior'

Lodging it into a series of other valid complaints certainly makes it look like it, y'know. Can't really blame me for interpretting it that way considering how you threw the comment out up there. :tpg:

Please shut up. Your post reads like it came from Sony Defense Force or you haven't looked at gaming news since late 06. Assassins Creed and GTAIV look exactly the same on both systems. Also, just to nitpick, the 360 version of Assassin's creed didn't have game breaking glitches in it when it was launched that took 3 months to fix via firmware updates and to a lesser extent, the same can be said for GTAIV on the PS3.

Also, RE5 is multiplatform and has been for like 2 years.

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You guys said that last year with the supposed triple-threat of Heavenly Sword, Ratchet & Clank:ToD, and Uncharted. What did those games do for the triple? Bombed harder then Baghdad on a Sunday.

Can we all just agree that arguing about which console is better is like the height of internet asshattery and move on with our lives?

You seem to have forgotten what kind of business we deal in, Aardark.

It's a thread dedicated to answering a question asked by a person who won't be appearing again to read the thread, who won't take or listen to the advice offered to him, and that's been bumped a week later by a fucking retard, Deni.

What did you expect?

I do not understand why most of you are putting so much effort into attacking and defending the two consoles. Both of them have their ups and downs. That has been pointed out. No system is better than the other. It is all a matter of personal opinion.


This makes no sense. Even the creators call it an action adventure game. The only shooter element this game has the third person angle when you aim a weapon. It has all the classic elements of an action adventure game.

I always thought "adventure" was a label for games like Sam and Max,
and games like Uncharted would be described as an action game.

Simply having an adventure within the game story is not what makes an "adventure game". If that were so, RPGs could be adventure games as well.

BTW i have not yet played Uncharted so I could be wrong.

There is only one place for adventure in these waters, swabbie.

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To be honest, I call it that because the creators do. The line between genres (spelling?) is so thin these days that the different types of games just seem to be mixing together.

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This is real world money making business. Please do not interfere with the process.

I forgot, the gaming industry hates personal opinion. I really should know this since I work for Gamestop.

Well being as someone who has fought between which system I should get, I have also gone thru the same dilemma. But to end the dilemma I thought about this, which console will be economically and logically better for me. I thought about the fact that my all time favorite series is on the 360, but then I thought that Ive never owned any xbox game or console before, so for me to get an entirely new system for one game and other multi-platformers...it just didnt add up for me.

Now sony on the other hand is more logical for me. My games are on ps2, my older games are on ps1, and I own a PSP with games on that. Its not that I am a fanatic for Sony, its just the games I love happened to be on that. So in that aspect for me, getting a ps3 is the better deal. Come Thursday, the ps3 with MGS4 will be mine.


So the point im making is, think about this logically and economically. If you own an Xbox and have more games on there, get the 360. If you own more sony games, go for the ps3.

I'm still reading the thread and i haven't bought any of the 2 consoles yet. And yes, your advises are important to me, i wouldn't have asked otherwise... So thanks for all the passion in your answers, i'll buy it by the end of this week and let you know what choice i have made...

I'm both surprised and impressed by that. Most of the time people ask this sort of question, they tend to just get whatever it was they had more of an inkling towards in the first place and let a thread fester. So props for honestly being interested in what some of us think. That's refreshing.

Let's face it, Opions are like arsholes, Everyone's got one but by the way this thread it turning out we need to just think about one aspect, As buyer who doesn't know a lot about either console's you need to have a look at the games that have already come out, The games that a due to come out, And which ones apeal to you. I think thats kinda sums it up there because in no time short this thread will turn into a bare fist brawl over either console, And speaking as a person who has owned a PS1, 2 and played the PS3 alot as well as the Xbox's i think it just comes down to the games.

......Theres the bottom line. :)

But then action adventure is very different from action game. And I'd hesitate to describe the game with "adventure" when 80% of it is shooting things. It's as much a shooter as Gears of War is. You could just as well argue Gears is not a shooter because you spend a moment flicking switches and climbing stairs.