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RABicle May 15, 2008 01:24 PM

Jade's Game 2, sometimes incorrectly referred as Beyond Good & Evil 2
 
The best Zelda game that wasn't a Zelda game is getting a sequel!
N-Europe: News: Beyond Good & Evil 2 In Development
Another Sauce, but French!

I had just whacked off but immediately sprung another when I read the headline.

The government lies! Join the rebellion!

Dark Nation May 15, 2008 01:31 PM

HOLY LIVING FUCK ...!

*Ahem* I am excited to hear the development of a sequel to the game Beyond Good and Evil is in production.
I wonder if they will go multi-system or stick with one platform?

RABicle May 15, 2008 01:40 PM

Oh it'd have to go multiplatform.

When you factor in that the previous game never made any money and Ubisoft will only okay this game if it's on everything from PS2 to Wii to PC to Xbox 360 and hope that somehwere it might find an audience (probably wont.)

it's crazy. This is the best game I ever played on my PS2, I borrowed it off a housemate, and on a whim like two days ago found a PAL Gamecube copy on ebay and bought it instantly. AND NOW THIS!

map car man words telling me to do things May 15, 2008 01:43 PM

This is lovely news. It's always great to hear support for a sequel even when the original wasn't a success. All the more confidense in quality over calculated profits.

I played the original on GC and loved it to bits. Hopefully Ancel isn't forced to dump the unsolved story threads out of pressure to make a fresh start with the series.

indutrial May 15, 2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RABicle (Post 605220)
Oh it'd have to go multiplatform.
it's crazy. This is the best game I ever played on my PS2, I borred it off a housemate, and ona whim like two days ago found a PAL Gamecube copy on ebay and bought it instantly. AND NOW THIS!

Wow. I should just cut the bullshit and buy the PS2 original while it's still around. Gamestop is selling that game for around $8 used.

Dark Nation May 15, 2008 01:52 PM

That reminds me, now that news of a sequel has been reveled, I remember I have the PC Version sitting around here somewhere, I never got to finish it thanks to my graphics card shitting on me due to Oblivion, ... and I was so far too.. One reason I never reinstalled is thatI'm a little paranoid about it messing up on me again, plus I'm kinda low on HD space.

So, should I go find a copy at Gamestop? ... and PS2 or GC version if I go?

RABicle May 15, 2008 02:02 PM

Face it. The GCN controller is just more comfortable than the Dual Shock. Get it on GCN. I've heard Xbox copies are the cheapest hough cos lol, far to cerebal for Halo crowd resulted in no sales.
Also the PC copy had a showstopper bug in it if I recall. A friend of mine was complaining about it to me. I told her to just get the patch but she'd already lost interest.

Also lol: Gechmir can stop waiting.

map car man words telling me to do things May 15, 2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Nation (Post 605225)
That reminds me, now that news of a sequel has been reveled, I remember I have the PC Version sitting around here somewhere, I never got to finish it thanks to my graphics card shitting on me due to Oblivion, ... and I was so far too.. One reason I never reinstalled is thatI'm a little paranoid about it messing up on me again, plus I'm kinda low on HD space.

So, should I go find a copy at Gamestop? ... and PS2 or GC version if I go?

The GC pad works better, at least for me it did. I also played Sands of Time and Spartan: Total Warrior on the GC for this reason (not to mention Killer7 and RE4).

orion_mk3 May 15, 2008 02:36 PM

Terrific news! And I'd heard that there would never ever be a sequel due to the original's inexplicably bad sales performance. It really needs one, too, as there were a tong of plot threads left dangling.

While seemingly impossible but great things are happening to the franchise, how about an OST? I hope they bring back the same sound and cast in the sequel.

Inhert May 15, 2008 02:46 PM

OH YES!!! it's been so long since i wanted a sequel of this game!

and I guess the fact they ubisoft just release the game on steam wasn't random XD

I'm currently replaying the first one, god this game is so good!

can't wait for the sequel!

Gechmir May 15, 2008 03:03 PM

I just came

:tpg: Oh dear lord...

Totally need to buy a copy of this and Psychonauts. I got to, like, the VERY end of BG&E twice and both times, my computer shitcanned.

My PS2 shitcanned whilst doing ICO, coincidentally. It seems that my hardware can't live up to awesomeness specs of this caliber :argh: Best news I've heard in weeks. Thank you, Rab <3

Additional Spam:
Double postin' here~

I made a topic on this over at SomethingAwful, and someone chimed in saying that Ubisoft has a convention at the end of this month ("Ubidays". How bland) where I suppose they make their upcoming release announcements. Either it'll be announced, or Ancel is raising a storm over this (a PR storm regarding the game) so Ubi will be forced to officially greenlight it.

Seems like he was overstepped on Rayman for the Wii (according to an article from ~2 months back), but Ubi said to make up for it, he could do a project of his choosing. He's been chugging on this for a year, and that matches up in the timeline, doesn't it?

RABicle May 16, 2008 06:13 AM

Beyond Good & Evil 2: Beyond Good & Evil 2 Is For PS3, 360

What the? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? As if tasteless PS3 and Xbox360 owners will buy a single copy of this game. This is totally fucked. Much like any third party game of worth, the original game sold better on Cube than the other platforms.

Dopefish May 16, 2008 09:03 AM

This game better be ported to PC or there WILL be hell to pay.

YOU HEAR ME, UBISOFT? HELL. TO. PAY.

NovaX May 16, 2008 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RABicle (Post 605495)
Beyond Good & Evil 2: Beyond Good & Evil 2 Is For PS3, 360

What the? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? As if tasteless PS3 and Xbox360 owners will buy a single copy of this game. This is totally fucked. Much like any third party game of worth, the original game sold better on Cube than the other platforms.

The game hasn't even been approved by Ubisoft yet, it's still pretty early days, so there is no ruling out a PC or Wii port at this stage. But if it turns out that the game is only going to be for 360 and PS3, that pretty much rules out the thrid one ever seeing the light of day.

Dark Nation May 16, 2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

tasteless PS3 and Xbox360 owners will buy a single copy of this game
:( I have an Xbox 360

I know what you mean though RAB, its all the regular people with the 360 who would just gloss over the game and not even consider getting it. Alas it looks like it'll be up to the Atlus crowd to support the game for making the game a proper trilogy.

Oh and just to pour salt on wounds, I came across this mockup many moons ago:
http://www.magnulus.com/images/060610bge-wii2.jpg

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 16, 2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RABicle (Post 605495)
Beyond Good & Evil 2: Beyond Good & Evil 2 Is For PS3, 360

What the? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS? As if tasteless PS3 and Xbox360 owners will buy a single copy of this game. This is totally fucked. Much like any third party game of worth, the original game sold better on Cube than the other platforms.

Yeah, because Wii owners have proved that they're SO GREAT AT BUYING ADVENTURE TITLES, I FUCKING FORGOT. Okami's done what, 90,000?

People EVERYWHERE are gonna gloss over this, regardless. Unless there's a marketing miracle, it's gonna be just as fucked. To go on about sales on the Cube being better than the other two, is like saying dogshit is better than horseshit.

RAB HAS BEEN THREADBANNED FOR TROLLING. NOT FOR HIS STATEMENT ABOUT SALES. NOT FOR EXPRESSING DISCONTENT THAT IT WON'T SHOW UP ON THE WII, BUT FOR BEING A TROLL.. Glad to get that out of the way.

Zip May 16, 2008 04:56 PM

YES YES YES YE YES YES YESYEYSYESYESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS I came buckets!!! been waiting for this since.. since.. since release day of the first one!
Hopefully they'll be able to duplicate the awesome feeling you get while playing it. Also hope they dont do a Warriors within and try to 'appeal to a wider audience' .

Grail May 16, 2008 08:33 PM

With news of this, I only have one question...

Where the FUCK is my Breakdown 2? Jesus Christ

NovaX May 18, 2008 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills (Post 605561)
Yeah, because Wii owners have proved that they're SO GREAT AT BUYING ADVENTURE TITLES, I FUCKING FORGOT. Okami's done what, 90,000?

People EVERYWHERE are gonna gloss over this, regardless. Unless there's a marketing miracle, it's gonna be just as fucked. To go on about sales on the Cube being better than the other two, is like saying dogshit is better than horseshit.

I like how bringing Okami into the argument is useless.

Okami Wii is a 2-year old port, that didn't achieve sales when it was originally released on PS2. Also from what I am led to believe it has received little to no marketing on its new console.

Tagonist May 18, 2008 04:52 AM

For what it's worth, I've got both PS3 and 360, and I am SO buying this one when it comes out... *_*
BG&E was one of those famous games that were more than the sum of their parts. Plus, it had a pretty good cast of characters, including a believable, non oversexed female lead. Something not too often seen in games...

Forsety May 18, 2008 05:55 AM

I have a hard time believing that just because BG&E sold better on the gamecube when it came out theres some magical guarantee all wii owners will jump on the sequel, especially considering the wii caters to a whole new audience than the gamecube did imo.

Yes, they both try to cater to "nintendo fans" but lets face it, the wii caters to the whole "casual crowd" now too, and I doubt casual gamers are going to be all over a hardcore adventure title like BG&E-- just honest truth there.

With that out of the way, this is exciting really no matter what console it's on. Pretty much agreed it's not likely to sell well (no matter what console, really) but if something like blue dragon or eternal sonata can break 100k I'm sure this can too, and hopefully that'll be enough to consider it something above "horrifying failure" at the very least. :(

No. Hard Pass. May 18, 2008 06:15 AM

Well, I'm fired up for this one. The first game was great.

Infernal Monkey May 18, 2008 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip (Post 605622)
Also hope they dont do a Warriors within and try to 'appeal to a wider audience' .

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13...ondubisoft.jpg

I spent more time, effort and money ($0) on this clown-grade Photoshop than Ubisoft will spend marketing Beyond Good & Evil 2. :(

Gechmir May 18, 2008 10:11 AM

Infernal, you may have been indifferent toward BG&E1 (from what I recall in a discussion long ago), but still! <3

Yeah, I'm uneasy about what they might do in their approach. As mentioned earlier, Jade is an incredibly believable main character. I love a busty lady as much as the next fella, but throwing in a Double-D female wearing less fabric than a necktie makes the whole approach pretty god damn childish. I remember starting off in The Witcher thinking it'd be pretty good in its approach to female main characters, until they suddenly turn slut mode and were all SEX WITH ME to the main character who would just go "ok =0"

I'm not saying anything like RAGE, FEMINISM NEEDS TO STEP UP. Moreso that a lot of the character-types and designs make me unable to take the game seriously. Although, it's odd saying that considering all the furries in this game =[ The storyline unwinding for some reason made me think of a nice, high-quality 2D animation movie made in the states (I mean good ones, like from a decade or so back!). No clue why, but it felt like an awesome movie-length cartoon of sorts.

As long as Ubi lets Ancel do as he wishes, it'll turn in to a faithful sequel (or so I'd like to think). Ubi sequels often leave much to be desired... Rainbow Six Vegas 2 is an awesome game and all, but it had tons of gripes. Plus its storyline is so, so, SO clumsy. #1's wasn't a masterpiece, but at least you could follow it with ease.

Splinter Cell? It'd have a good installment and get kicked to the shit group. Unfortunately, people for some reason gobbled up Double Agent which sucked BALLS. And now the whole series is on a shitty path with Fischer going AGAINST THE MAN.

Prince of Persia was much the same ;-( First one was awesome, #2 was shit, #3 was... Ehh. An improvement from #2, but still.

Jade is gonna get porked by her uncle in this sequel. Count on it.
Spoiler:
Yes, "porked". I said it.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 20, 2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovaX (Post 606021)
I like how bringing Okami into the argument is useless.

Okami Wii is a 2-year old port, that didn't achieve sales when it was originally released on PS2. Also from what I am led to believe it has received little to no marketing on its new console.

This is a sequel to a game that's a few years old, where the original didn't achieve sales when it was originally released on multiple platforms. The original also recieved little marketing back then.

My point was that third party titles of this nature aren't exactly picked up in droves by the Wii-owning demographic. Twilight Princess is a different beast entirely, coming from a well loved series, being a launch title, and being first party.

Perhaps there aren't enough similar titles on the platform to estimate exactly how well something of this nature would sell on the Wii, but I see a lot more parallels with it's theoretical Wii situation in Okami than I do in Zelda.

The Cube to Wii comparison isn't quite fair either. It's not exactly the same market we're talking here. Forsety has covered this entire point already though, much more succinctly than I could have.

It's not like I imagine it selling well on any console. But I don't see it doing better on Wii than on either of the other two.

RacinReaver May 20, 2008 08:52 PM

Guess it's kinda neat to see it's going to come out, but I don't really get what all the fuss is about. I got BG&E way back because Circuit City had it on it's $5 sale. I played through it, thought it was fun, though nothing really that exceptional.

I seem to recall enjoying Haven more than BG&E, except for the extra ridiculously hard impossible to find levels you needed to do in order to get the "good" ending.

Paco May 20, 2008 09:30 PM

Between Brütal Legend, Grand Theft Auto IV and this, I now have a grandiose reason to drop $500 on an Xbox 360 with some gamez. I absolutely loved the old one although I have no clue what happened to my PS2 copy and ever since I lost that, I've been looking for it on Xbox. Count me in the "stoked" pile please~

No. Hard Pass. May 20, 2008 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 606858)
Between Brütal Legend, Grand Theft Auto IV and this, I now have a grandiose reason to drop $500 on an Xbox 360 with some gamez. I absolutely loved the old one although I have no clue what happened to my PS2 copy and ever since I lost that, I've been looking for it on Xbox. Count me in the "stoked" pile please~

Or a PS3, if you like dem Blu Rays.


:(

Paco May 20, 2008 10:45 PM

Yeah... I'm not buying a PS3 if I can't play Bioshock on it. Sorry.

value tart May 21, 2008 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 606873)
Or a PS3, if you like dem Blu Rays.


:(

I like dat blue bobofrowny.

:(

Edit:

And Rotor is a bastard.

wvlfpvp May 23, 2008 07:56 PM

:333: this is the shit.




DON'T FUCK IT UP ANCEL. Jade goes goth.

Manny Biggz May 23, 2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Encephalon (Post 606879)
Yeah... I'm not buying a PS3 if I can't play Bioshock on it. Sorry.

Is that a joke that I'm missing out on, or have you not heard the news yet?

News: BioShock PS3 confirmed - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

I'll find out if I'm excited for this news or not after I play the copy of part 1 I just picked up.

No. Hard Pass. May 24, 2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz (Post 608051)
Is that a joke that I'm missing out on, or have you not heard the news yet?

News: BioShock PS3 confirmed - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

I'll find out if I'm excited for this news or not after I play the copy of part 1 I just picked up.

Owned by news, Paco.

Skexis May 24, 2008 12:54 AM

I'll be first in line if it turns out to be true, but Jeuxvideo has posted announcements about a sequel for literally years now. Gotta wait for Ubisoft to give it the green light before all dicks are cumming.



Okay, look, I'm giddy like a schoolgirl, but I have a robotlike image to maintain.

Paco May 26, 2008 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manny Biggz (Post 608051)
Is that a joke that I'm missing out on, or have you not heard the news yet?

News: BioShock PS3 confirmed - ComputerAndVideoGames.com

I'll find out if I'm excited for this news or not after I play the copy of part 1 I just picked up.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 608059)
Owned by news, Paco.

oK. Let me rephrase my initial statement. Fuck the PSTRIPLE and fuck CHAD WARDENN. BAALLLLIIINNNN

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor May 26, 2008 08:37 PM

Well, in your own defense, Paco. You did make that comment before it was confirmed.

Manny Biggz May 27, 2008 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills (Post 609122)
Well, in your own defense, Paco. You did make that comment before it was confirmed.

My apologies then.

Solis May 28, 2008 02:47 PM

Teaser trailer for it has been released, so it looks like this is real and confirmed now:

Ubidays: BG&E2 images and trailer - Gamersyde

Inhert May 28, 2008 05:34 PM

awesome! I like the look of the game even if it seem a little more realistic than the first one.

Love the contrast with the first game too with the desert (instead of a water planet)

Can't wait to see the new look of Jade!

Dark Nation May 28, 2008 06:09 PM

SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS, FUCK YEAH!

*ahem*

Have a screenshot:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8...5556798nt8.jpg

Gechmir May 28, 2008 06:10 PM

I wish it focused on Jade a bit more, but this IS a "teaser"~

STRETCHIN' MAH TABLES

"... 51."

I don't think it's the same voice actor, though... =(

Philia May 28, 2008 09:42 PM

PJ! :D :D :D :D AWESOME.

I played BG&E ages ago when it first came out thanks to a hype of a friend and it turned out quite awesome. I shouldn't really hype it but stand-alone its pretty refreshing sci-fi platformer.

Skexis May 29, 2008 12:08 AM

Indeed, awesome news. I'm all on board and ready for another foray into Jade's world.
I'd be happy if it was simply the same gameplay on a larger scale, but it'll be interesting to see how they try to up the ante in terms of more than graphics.

NovaX May 29, 2008 03:08 AM

I was impressed when the pig snorted the fly up his nose.

Philia May 29, 2008 03:25 PM

Speaking of PJ (or was it Pee-Jay? or something similar?)...

ONLY READ IF YOU BEATEN BG&E.

LAST WARNING. DO NOT CLICK UNLESS YOU SAW THE ENDING. AFTER THE CREDITS. ETC ETC. AGAIN. NO CLICKY IF YOU HAVEN'T PLAYED THIS.

Spoiler:
You clicked. Are you SURE YOU WANT TO BE SPOILED?
Spoiler:
Wasn't PJ infected? MASSIVE plot twist... can't fucking WAIT!

map car man words telling me to do things May 29, 2008 03:29 PM

He was, but perhaps they're not going to focus on that in a teaser. And it's Pey'J if I remember correctly.

Zip Aug 25, 2009 06:15 PM

Game is delayed indefinitely.

Aka cancelled. Sigh.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 25, 2009 06:23 PM

A source would be nice.

Here, lemme do your job for you.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009...d-good-evil-2/

And that paints a better picture than what you've said too. All things considered, the lack of info, the lack of anything concrete about plans that we haven't heard about in ages, this isn't exactly surprising.

Lends a note of officiality to it I guess, but not much more.

Still, there's nothing in there on concrete, absolute cancellation. So the glimmer of hope that you held originally that this project might actually be completed (hah, like there was any hope of that in the first place) should still shine, as this really doesn't change a lot outside of "well at least they mentioned it by name instead of letting it die off in obscurity".

Gechmir Aug 25, 2009 06:45 PM

Noooo D; This better be bullshit or get turned around.

Zip Aug 25, 2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills (Post 722014)
A source would be nice.

Here, lemme do your job for you.

Rock, Paper, Shotgun: crossing the futility barrier The Birth Of Tragedy: No Beyond Good & Evil 2?

And that paints a better picture than what you've said too. All things considered, the lack of info, the lack of anything concrete about plans that we haven't heard about in ages, this isn't exactly surprising.

Lends a note of officiality to it I guess, but not much more.

Still, there's nothing in there on concrete, absolute cancellation. So the glimmer of hope that you held originally that this project might actually be completed (hah, like there was any hope of that in the first place) should still shine, as this really doesn't change a lot outside of "well at least they mentioned it by name instead of letting it die off in obscurity".

I read it on a swe site and dont know any english sites and since i knew such a quality member like yourself would jump in, i was like whatever.

orion_mk3 Aug 26, 2009 09:15 AM

That sucks, but I have to say it's not a surprise. After all, it's been ages since that first teaser video (which was supposed to be the first in a series) without any other news in the interim.

I almost wish they hadn't released that teaser or made the product announcement. I'd reconciled myself to BG&E being a one-off, and the whole thing raised hopes only to smash them cruelly.

Cirno Aug 27, 2009 03:04 AM

Good riddance.

Beyond Good and Evil wasn't even that good. People only like it because they think it's a polished example of art in gaming when it's really just another pile of French goo.

wvlfpvp Aug 27, 2009 05:31 PM

... but it's Canadian.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 27, 2009 05:49 PM

Actually, Ubisoft Montpellier is in France.

The Montreal studio is in Canada, but that's not where BG&E was made.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 27, 2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirno (Post 722247)
Beyond Good and Evil wasn't even that good. People only like it because they think it's good when it's really not good.

http://www.saxypunch.com/miscimg/bitchwhat.png

Cirno Aug 28, 2009 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bath House Pang House (Post 722387)

http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...1256519394.jpg

Did I strike a nerve, fanboy?

No. Hard Pass. Aug 28, 2009 01:45 AM

No, you struck retarded. Close to a nerve, though.

Cirno Aug 28, 2009 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denicalis (Post 722453)
No, you struck retarded. Close to a nerve, though.

So... I struck one of your retarded nerves..? I wasn't aware that the two went hand-in-hand, but lo' and behold, I've gone and learned something new here in the gaming forums.



WHAT A KAWAII DAY.

Muzza Aug 28, 2009 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirno (Post 722454)
So... I struck one of your retarded nerves..? I wasn't aware that the two went hand-in-hand, but lo' and behold, I've gone and learned something new here in the gaming forums.



WHAT A KAWAII DAY.

Tempted to prop this post if only because it made me notice Photobucket's righteous justice.

The unmovable stubborn Aug 28, 2009 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cirno (Post 722449)
Did I strike a nerve, fanboy?

You trollin' lazy :(

No. Hard Pass. Aug 29, 2009 03:04 AM

Picture post.

Two words that aren't funny.

Kurado is back, no one knew he was gone, no one really cares he's here.

At least Pom gave us the pomdick story.

Cirno Aug 29, 2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bath House Pang House (Post 722457)
You rollin' crazy :)

So I've been told.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denicalis


Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Aug 30, 2009 12:18 AM

You can stop now, y'know. Anytime, really.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Aug 30, 2009 01:30 AM

What? This is funny. It's almost like he thinks these are clever quips, but I don't see how a person could possibly think that.

I wasn't a big fan of Beyond Good and Evil, but I did not get very far. Thus, I don't comment on its quality.


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