Mortal Kombat 8 - GET OVER HERE!
 

So, today marks Midway's Gamers Day in Las Vegas, Nevada, and several new games are being showcased in the event. One of them is the next iteration of the Mortal Kombat series, running on the Unreal Engine 3.

There's a really strong rumor that this game will be a crossover like the Marvel vs Capcom games, only this would be Mortal Kombat vs DC Comics. Unfortunately, all information is embargoed until tomorrow, 4 PM Pacific Time.

Mortal Kombat vs DC? Come on, like Superman would ever perform a fatality.

It's a shame that Midway does not now how to make a fighting game with good mechanics. I won't hold my breath, but I'll play it eventually.

I'll be interested if it's 2D again, using real actors. With ultra fancy HD project reality emotion engine mode 7 graphics rendered in 1080 blast processed snowboarding pies.

Also, if it's fun. Where the hell did all the goofy shit in Mortal Kombat games go after MK3? I will check my other pants for clues.

must stop making this game in 3D last 4 games in series are silly,I like MK 1,2 & 3.best one is MK2 is best fighting game after SF.

Do you run everything you post through a Babelfish filter, or are you just incredibly stupid and lazy?

sorry for that but English not my mother language.I'll try my best for better posting next time.

It's confirmed.

http://www.uploadimage.org/images/02...facv9v4nfw.jpg

You know, first I had to laugh about this but then I thought that it's pretty cool that video gaming has become a legitimate enough form of entertainment for this type of cross-over to happen.

I think the idea of a comics universe in a fighting game sounds neat, but... Mortal Kombat? Seriously? How can any of those guys really hope to stand up to someone like Superman, Green Lantern or Flash?

Besides, none of the heroes from the DCU (mostly) aren't going to be willing to pull off a fatality or whatever to finish an opponent. How's that going to work?

I'm trying to imagine some fatalities here...

Flash - Runs around opponents carefully until their body is incinerated by hellfires from below.

Superman - Rips the opponent's body in half. Simple.

Green Lantern - Obliterates opponent with the ring.

This is gonna be one hell of a weird game. :mad:

Haha, oh man. Batman fighting Sub-Zero, Yoda fighting Ivy, Sonic fighting Mario. Bring on the Street Fighter McDonalds cross-over.

Hamburglar is going down.

The Question better be in this. He'd actually fit in pretty well with the MK crowd.

For sure I'm gonna have to play this game.. subzero and batman in a game thats not mugen

cans it be hype timez now?

I'm just trying to imagine how this game would work. Maybe they'll have the DC characters have something else to 'finish' their opponents. Wait, I know...FRIENDSHIPS!!!

Yes. It's pretty cool that video gaming has become legit enough to cross over with... comics? What? "Man, it's pretty cool how sub-culture nerd thing A can be legit enough to cross over with sub-culture nerd thing B."

That's like saying how awesome it is that Magic the Gathering finally attained enough legitimacy to cross over with Dragon Ball.

DUH. The Flash is so fast he exists outside of time/space. He'll simply choose to inhabit the same place as his opponent in the same moment of time and they will simply CEASE TO BE.

Scorpion kicks the shit out of Green Zero every time. Yellow costume. Dude is fucked. That's what you get for having such a gay weakness, Hal. Suck a dick.

Also, Batman's fatality will be that he drafts his opponent into being the new Robin and promptly gets him killed. Oh snap. All maudlin and shit.

Superman quits the game because he tires of humanity depending on him to fight their Mortal Kombats for them, retires to a holographic farm in Kansas, grows a ponytail and mopes around like a pussy. His fatality is that he just stops caring.

But not the Grimace. Nothing can kill the Grimace.

http://www.legionofdairy.com/wp-imag...orMcCheese.jpg

No, because Mugen sucks and this will probably suck. Why? Because like, the last 5 MKs have been awful. And DC has been largely awful save a few strokes of brilliance (What's up, Kingdom Come?) and so this will ALSO be awful.

Let me run something by you.

Kano fighting Lobo. That concept couldn't be more terrible if Uwe Boll directed it.

I don't really know what to think about this. I haven't been excited for a Mortal Kombat game in a long time and it looks like it's going to be another long time before I am again. It reminds me of when I bought MK Trilogy, so excited to see all the characters in one game... only to find out half the damn fatalities didn't work unless you put in the cheat code. Now they're trying to do the MvC route? Maybe if I were to see more of it would I might change my attitude about this.



Don't give him ideas. Last thing we need is for him and Paul Anderson to form an alliance to make something. That's about as bad news as I heard that Castlevania's being directed and probably written by the guy who did Stomp the Yard (iirc).

Apparently this has minimal blood, and no fatalities.

- Kotaku

:/

Much as I hate to argue with you good buddy but gaming hasn't been a sub-culture nerd thing for at least four years ever since the gaming industry annual turnover started outstripping the film industry. Playing computer games is as mainstream as watching television now mate and has been for some time, no matter how much the kids here want to pretend they're all underground and different from everyone else. The only thing that seperates gaming nerds from the rest of society these days is the lack of social skills and a desire to play obscure dating sims in Japanese.

Cetra's comment is still completely retarded though. There have been games about movies and comments for as long as I can remember. I played a Batman game on the ZX Spectrum, back in the late 80's for fuck's sake. Likewise, there have been myriad films featuring games and game characters, one of the earliest of which was the first Mortal Kombat movie, made in 1995. To suggest that this kind of crossover is in anyway a new thing is at best ignorant and more likely, just stupid. Even the combination of fighting game and comic book characters is old news. Xmen vs Street Fighter came out in 1996 and the Turtles beat 'em up is even older and they're just the first two to pop into my head.

Back to the topic at hand, I doubt Superman would be in it, it's more likely to be primarily Batman characters. For starters, they're all mainly human, like the MK protagonists and there's not a character in there who's not killed people. Also, to make comments like

is kinda forgetting that, you know, it's not real, it's a game, the creators can balance the characters any way they want. If you've played Xmen vs Street Fighter you'll know that it's entirely possible for Ken and Ryu to beat up Juggernaut and even Apocalypse. As such is it really such a leap of faith to see Scorpion and Liu Kang beating the shit out of Bane or Rorschach?

The 3D MK's haven't been too bad really. I had quite a lot of fun with Deadly Alliance (The Soul Blade-esque one with weapons included) and they're still a hell of a lot less complicated than the Tekken games and to be honest, I think the 3D aspect is better implemented than in Tekken.

I'll be keeping an eye on this to see how it turns out. With this and Lego Batman, this could be a good year for DC comics.

Pretty sure he meant crossover as in combining videogame universes and comic book universes. Marvel vs Capcom games as opposed to Marvel games.

One could suggest that a former Midway employee saying that the blood and guts were the only point of the MK games (Rather than game mechanics and stuff) might be one of the reasons the recent games have been sliding quality-wise. Sure the blood and guts was amusing enough but I used to enjoy the game-play too, hopefully now they've jogged on all the idiots like him they can rediscover some of that.

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OK, fair enough but Xmen vs Street Fighter is still 12 years old, hardly a recent development in video gaming terms.

Tru tru, though it's not as if he said this is a first (hello Super Robot Wars). But more cameos have been appearing "steadily" (Soul Calibur 2, Mercenaries, DOA4 etc).

Be interesting on who they've chosen to be in. I'd be curious to see how they would do Harleyquinne (provided she's in there). And since it's going into a different direction than fatalities that made MK famous, my interest in the game has been tweaked just a little bit.

Another MK = Fail

A game with MK and DC Comic characters = Major Fail


Honestly, why is this game still around? It had its moment in the spotlight in the mid 90s with its controversies, but if you look back at the fact when you hit an opponent and gallons of blood come out of their face, you cant help but think "Is this what we were freaking out on?". That being said, no blood or gore in this new crossover game [which looks like a total rip on the Marvel/Capcom crossover] is really not a big deal. It looks gimmicky and I dont see how they can put DC characters into MK-ish setting, or vice versa. I know easily you could say "Well what about Marv/Cap?", but to be honest I could see Apocalypse or Onslaught [who if no one knows, were bosses of those games] create dimensional portals and have the two worlds clash it out. I guess Darkseid from DC can do it, but meh...the concept has been done already. I just can't see this combining. Its like oil and water to me.


I think Midway just needs to let this game series rest, did they not say that MK: Armageddon was the last one? I could have sworn I heard that.

Let me refine that:


Thanks, Captain Obvious.

While that's true, the novelty of it has worn off and they know it. As many people have said, most people haven't given a damn about the series since MK3. Heck the last game didn't even have unique fatalities for the characters, they had "create a fatality" which I'm sure was due to having too many characters.

It's been obvious for awhile that they've been trying to get away from relying on the blood and fatalities to sell the game. It just hasn't been working because there have always been better 3D fighters around. I've read interviews with the creators, MK's original success was a complete accident. It was originally ment to be a joke that wouldn't go anywhere.

I wasn't saying that gaming hasn't become main stream, I know it's gone main stream. I see the Halo commercials, too. I'm just saying a comic book-video game cross over is not a very good gauge of how accepted it's become.

I think my grandma's old folks home having a Wii is a better example.

Seriously, without fatalities & gore, what's the point? GG Midway!

If anyone cares, here's the teaser trailer:

Gametrailers.com - Mortal Kombat VS. DC Universe - Midway Gamers' Day 08: Announcement Trailer HD

Honestly, I wish they didn't put any gameplay footage in there...unless that's going to be how it's like for the final product. Looks way too boring for a fighting game -_-

About as terrible as Wolverine beating Lobo up in a bar fight? Wait...

This is like mixing chocolate with Pepsi. Just a bad idea.

You've already concluded it's going to be boring from 3 seconds of gameplay footage? Nice.

From the gameplay footage I saw, that didn't look too bad. The blood is still in there and the bone cracking too. I'm still a bit skeptical about this game, but I can't call this a failure yet.

Well, not sure if it's the editing, or maybe just that I'm kinda biased, but it's just that it doesn't make me excited about the game at all. Could be because I still can't get over the ridiculousness of this combo, or that I've never liked playing MK.

The only interesting thing about this game that I saw was the fighting during a free fall. But that's not nearly enough to make me want to buy it. Maybe if I get a free rental at Blockbuster or something I'll check it out.

If I remember correctly, I think they said it was the last game in that particular storyline, if you could call it that, and that they would be starting over with new characters. But with Sub-Zero showing up here, I guess they decided not to go that route.

It was the last game for that console generation and they claimed some of the characters would die for good, not that they'd have all new characters. But I'll sooner believe someone in Dragon Ball died for good honestly.

Precisely.
Armageddon was supposed be the grand end of that particular arc or,rather,generation in the MK Saga.
It's pretty much the same thing Capcom tried in SFIII. It was supposed to wipe the slate clean,bring in a new batch of characters and advance the storyline further. They even introduced a new main character - Alex.
Apparently,that didn't go that well,because change = SATAN. Butthurt fans bitched and cried about the lack of their precious shoto boys,so Capcom had to put Ryu and Ken in to shut them up. Oh,and Chun Li. Christ.

Scorp and Subs are the Ryu and Ken of Mortal Kombat. Scorp is Boon's favorite character. They are not going anywhere.
As for the game,I'm cautiosly optimistic. MK has huge where I used to live,I grew up with it,so I love it dearly depite all of its perceived flaws. The crossover news made me RAGE with the heat of a thousand suns,but after the initial 24-hour shock period,I can look at the concept more clearly and say that it might have a chance. I hope the MK Team can deliver.

I always loved all MK games till this moment and forever i will continue to do so but in my humble opinion this game is simply a transition from older consoles to next-gen ones,so this game is some sort of a test to the capacity of these super powerful consoles in order to familiarize with their potential.
We'll see what Midway is up to, am alway looking forward to a new great MK (not this one of course) with brand new story and some new characters.

There's only one factor that decides wether the game will rock or not - his name is Lobo.

If they get Lobo done well in this game, it will automatically rock. If he is not in the game, it will suck.

Whaddyaknow,a familiriar face 'round these parts. =) How's the CulT doing these days?

As for Lobo,it's pretty much a given he'll be there. It's too bad there won't be actual Fatalities in the game,because he's one of the few DC characters who can easily get away with them. Come to think of it,given his bullshit healing factor hax,he'd actually be able to legitimately survive one.

Gamespot had an interview with Ed Boon revealing a bit more information

Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe Q&A - Xbox 360 News at GameSpot

Apparently there will be fatalities for the MK characters and DC villains. But the DC heroes will have special finishers that don't actually kill the characters.

OK...here is your next Capcom Vs.
Here

:O

Anyway, I think it was a bad idea, specially removing Fatalities and all, no MK :( , not that the last games were any good though

I heard the fatalities are still gonna be there . Just that when you fight DC heroes, it'll be different. DC villians will have fatalities and MK fighters will have their own too.. Besides, catwoman, flash , sonya's confirmed ;p.

Saw a new trailer for it that popped up at E3. It's on IGN, but age restricted:

IGN: Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe Preview

I seriously don't have many doubts about this game now. It looks really good in motion and it may actually be a purchase for me. It almost seems to me that it's classic 2D style, with a 3D twist or something. I'm impressed by it and hope more info pops around before E3's end.

I could think of a dozen franchises that make more sense to merge with the Mortal Kombat franchise. Hell, I think even Mortal Kombat vs. the 1972 Philadelphia Flyers would be more appealing. This just sounds like an extremely belated (read: unfortunately mistimed) attempt to combat (kombat?) the Marvel vs. Capcom series.

I dunno, if they rush it out in time to catch the Dark Knight hype it makes sense. Anything with Batman written on will sell well this summer.

Batman vs. The Joker. What else needs to be said.

I was really skeptical at first but I'm sold. I'm such a fucking MK whore, I really need to start admitting it to myself.

I really hope they include all MK characters if they are going to do it. I doubt superman would perform a fatality though, maybe they could have him do something else instead though.

There are videos on youtube(duh) that now show that all MK characters will have fatalities (and can be preformed on anyone) but DC characters will have brutalities (not that they are too different). (I thought it would be the other way)

Characters announced:
Joker
Catwoman
Flash
Kitana
Jax
Sonya

Superman's brutality is so...cool?

If they include Catwomen and Joker they need to include ALL of them although I would be hard pressed to figure out what they would have the riddler do as a brutalitie, perhaps slam some one over the head with a cross word puzzle book?



Edit: forgot to say thanks for the youtube idea, I had not thought about that :)

We all know that everyone is going to pick the Flash since videos have shown so far that he will be the funnest to play and possibly the cheapest to get quick and glitch wins. Hell, even the creators have admitted to that.

Also if that martian man hunter or a half naked supergirl isn't in the game this might as well fail

Video that show the most interesting moves

YouTube Video

it's too bad that batman has been shown to be nothing more than a recycled character.
At least from what i've seen in videos

http://i37.tinypic.com/2h7ih5y.gif

Yeeaaaaa this might be day one for me. I'm pretty much sold already as long as it's better than Armageddon.

Game comes out this month and now they have a "Storyline" trailer for it.

Gametrailers.com - Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe - Story Intro Trailer HD

What's worse is that they are rating this game T for teens. In other words.. Joker's fatality has been toned down to a blackout fatality much like Sub-Zero's.

This game could be rated "M" and it'd still be garbage. Fuck MK.

I just played it last night and I think it's total garbage. The mechanics have the same feel as all the other MK fighting games.

It has the best story mode in a fighting game ever, as far as telling a story. Not that that says much.

So your problem with latest game in long running series A is that it plays like part of long running series A.

As always, Furby, you're a fucking idiot. Of course it plays like Mortal Kombat. It IS Mortal Kombat.

Yeah, but

Mortal Kombat is garbage

so his point stands

Well of course Mortal Kombat is garbage, but playing it and then being upset because it plays like Mortal Kombat is idiocy.

So my point stands.

I'm just stating the fact that they have had the system fighting mechanics for how long and they have barely changed it in all this time.

The last couple of MK games were crap compared to all the other games on the market, you would think they should realize the fact that they need to change up their system in order to keep up with all the other games on the market.

And Deni> I'm not upset.. i'm just stating that they could've done a better job.

As long as MK is Ed Boon's baby and he doesn't quite grasp what makes for a good fighting game, it's never gonna be good.

And the last few MK games still sold well enough to continue the illusion it was actually worth something as a game.

Yes. They will certainly realise how lousy their game is based on the very respectable numbers they did.

I'm not getting the game, for one specific reason if nothing else:

Joker's Fatality Uncensored for European Release of MK vs. DCU
The Joker fatality uncensored for Europe - Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe for Xbox 360 News - VideoGamer.com

The game isn't worth Importing here since the 360 doesn't do Imports AKAIK and I don't have a PS3. The Joker doing some shit like in the above .gif is a part of his character, and to have Midway or whoever the hell at this point is in control of the franchise gimp his moves just to get a "T" rating is stupid. ESPECIALLY for a Mortal Kombat game. This is the same game series that indirectly caused the creation of the ESRB. Its EXPECTED to be violent. I know not all of the blame goes to them though, the sandy-vagina wimps at Warner Brothers are also twatwaffles.

Yeah, I'm probably getting worked up over nothing, but come on, no one plays Mortal Kombat for the disjointed story-line, they play it to beat people up and tear off limbs and castrate the enemy's manhood. Censoring a KNOWN violent psychopathic character so that thirteen year old timmy can play the game is a giant FUCK YOU to the American consumer.

Getting a game or not getting a game for the sole or strong reason of "A fatality" is the dumbest fucking shit ever.

You know what games did fatalities? The terrible ones.

Its the principle of censoring a product for one region while keeping everything intact in another. If you think that's a dumb reason then so be it, I used the Joker's fatality as clear example. I stand by what I said.

In the grand scheme of things, you're losing absolutely nothing but a person getting shot in the head after the match. You've lost nothing. The censorship was there because this game was gonna be high profile and they had to play fuck fuck games with the evaluation board. But... it's still a fatality.

If I've lost nothing, then I'll lose nothing by not playing the game either.

See what happened there?

You reaffirmed my decision not to get the game? Otherwise, I don't know.

I think they could've done a better job.. Sure they made alot of games but in all honestly how many of those were worth playing. I stand by my point, that compared to alot of the other fighting games, MK vs DC is the same lame equation.

I had heard DC were the ones who insisted on the game having a Teen Rating. But the thing is comics get away with things easily cause there is no comic rating system unless it's porn.

I wasn't expecting much from this game and it still disappoints me with how horrible and boring everything comes out to be in the final product.

I HATE how they pull fights together for story mode. Watching the Mortal Kombat kids cartoon seems more believable than this game in terms of how to deal with enemies.

And it is something they fail to understand, no one sees MK as a good game , at least on the fight mechanics department, and everyone wants MK for the blood and gory moves. Just check past MKs, many characters share punches, kicks (And this one is not different) and only special moves are different, some moves are broken and can be spammed, and it is not even fluid animations/moves.

What's with the stop on air while attacking, ok, it's to open new combo possibilities, and I like that, but it feels weird.


I like this MK, cause I was never too fond of the blood and gore excess, but I guess that "real" fans are disappointed cause in the end it has the same problems all the other MK had.

If you're going to stand up against this principle you better be ready to not play a shit-ton of game. If you go have a read around you'll find games get censored in various territories all the damn time, so more often than not a game will be released somewhere with elements censored. So have fun sticking up for that principle.

Unless, of course, it's only a principle you care about if it's affecting you; because there's some solid moral high-ground to be standing on.

I can understand where DN is coming from because if you pay for the game, you wanna get the full value of what you pay for or at least the same gameplay that everyone else in the world does.

I feel that it's unfair that alot of games that are here in the states are censored compared to their European/Japanese counterparts but it won't stop me from getting the game if it's a good game.

Well, I was kind of upset when Square Enix gave Japan + Europe the International version for FFX, but what could I do? The game had already been released here, and it was a case of having extra stuff added, instead of stuff removed, which upset me, but it wasn't quite the same thing. Xenosaga had the same problem. It was only for a few minor scenes that I am aware of, and it didn't affect gameplay; it was only a story cut-scene so I could watch it on youtube or something.

This time though, I can actually object to a game that IS getting a release here that has content removed for the sake of a lower rating, and it has content that is (superficially) a part of the gameplay, namely the fatalities. I don't have the patience or energy to stand up for EVERY SINGLE example of censorship, but when its this obvious, I gotta say something. *Shrug*

If you mean past MK games as in MK1-2-3, those were actually very good. Gameplay wise too - remember, the old MK games invented juggling.

MK2 was good. MK1 and MK3 were shit. Ultimate MK3 was good... I think that about does it.

No, what you mean is when it obviously affects you then you've got to say something. Don't talk about standing up for a principle when it's nothing but a petty complaint because you are the one losing out this time.

I guess I chose the wrong words, because by "obvious", I mean the censorship wasn't for a cult-release game or for a game that wasn't released in America in the first place. It was for a... for lack of a more specific wording, MKvsDC has a large distribution and is well advertised, so the censorship was easy to spot.

*sigh* Look, I don't feel like arguing over semantics. If by objecting to the censorship it means that I have an interest in the game then so be it.

I was kinda upset that we had to wait six months longer than the US for the game to be released so it's swings and roundabouts with an example like that.

If you don't like the censorship you can always import a foreign version. Until America gets over this weird thing you have where an 18 rated (Or M is it over there?) product must for some reason be the spawn of satan, you're always going to produce kiddie-centric games (And movies too, I can't remember the last time I saw an American film that got an 18 rating over here). In the UK that stigma simply doesn't exist, if anything an 18 rated game will sell much better than a 15 because all the kids want to play it (And despite our BBFC ratings being legally binding rather than your pointless voluntary ESRB things, shops will still sell 18 rated stuff to kids).

We do have the problem of the German government censoring basically everything though which has occasionally affected pan-European products. In Soul Blade, Li-Long had a three point staff instead of nunchucks because of the Germans and the G-Con accessories had to be blue with a bright orange end because the Germans were worried people might try to commit armed robbery with them.

No, wrong. We're not arguing over semantics in the slightest, I'm arguing that you're trying to claim some moral high-ground whilst actually only caring because you're personally affected.

I dislike censorship, and agree that it is annoying when a game you were intending to buy, or have bought, has stuff censored. However, it's part of life and you deal with it an move on. You said "I'm not getting this game because it's censored", which is fair enough. Rotor called you on the bullshit of that statement, and to try and sound like some sort of hero you came back with "Its the principle of censoring a product for one region while keeping everything intact in another." If that were the case, if you truly believe in taking a stand and not purchasing games on that principle then, as I said, you'd better be not buying other games that are censored in other territories. It's about the principle right? No, it's not, what it is actually about is that you, you personally, are a victim of this censorship and it has annoyed you. Fair enough, that's a valid stand point (though I agree with Rotor, somewhat silly), but don't come in here making grand statements about principles when it has nothing to do with principles and everything to do with selfish reasoning.

If you think we're still arguing semantics then I suggest you find a dictionary and start looking up some shit.

The thing is, M ratings are much closer to 15. An equal of the 18 rating in games would be the AO, and every single publisher balks at those because Walmart won't sell them. As hilarious as that is. Can you imagine if 18 rated movies in the UK were suddenly not sold?

As for the censoring thing, surprised to hear we're getting uncensored versions. I didn't read the news link, did it mean the whole game is unedited or just Joker's fatality?

As for the censoring itself, I've seen the edited fatalities and they mostly apply to when a character shoots with a gun. The camera focuses on the shooter and they shoot offscreen. A little lame, but it's more than clear what happens. It's apparently fine to show a playing card lodge itself in someone's forehead, but not ok to show a gunshot hit.

I suppose they've removed some additional gore from some of the more visible fatalities, but nothing really stood out. I imagine there's no difference in the European release.

The ASDA in Brighton (Owned by Walmart) was having a sale of horror films for Halloween, most of which were 18's. If memory serves there was a big old banner out front proclaiming the sale. I'm pretty sure I bought my copy of Vice City from an ASDA too, did Walmart not stock that in America? I guess it's a cultural thing though, Americans are rather prudish as a collective.

Have you ever tried to kill someone with a playing card though? Even if you hit them square in the eye it'd probably do no more than sting briefly.

I have to say I agree with your surprise at Europe getting the uncut version though.

Jesus. Okay fine: I am not getting the game because the censorship annoyed me. Satisfied? I still think that there's a moral high-ground that should be taken by not supporting this popular release in the US for the above stated reasons IN ADDITION to me not buying the game since the censorship personally annoyed me.

However, since apparently I can't do that on the internet, have multiple reasons for not buying something, fuck it. I'm done.

--edit--
But hey, if you like the game and are going to get it, more power to you.