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Soldier Mar 2, 2006 06:40 PM

Spider-Man 3
 
Can't believe a thread hasn't been made yet. Behold the Black Spidey!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/fe...ws.php?id=3892

So discuss all the Venom rumors, including the nonsense about Venom's face appearing if you reverse the eye and zoom in close. My stance on the whole thing is that I will not be satisfied if they do include Venom as only a last minute teaser of Spidey 4 (like what they did in Batman Begins). I don't want to wait another 4 years or so. They need to devote at least 20 minutes to a dramatic battle between Spidey and a fully revealed Venom.

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 06:43 PM

Too bad it's Spider-Man 3, idiot.

Spider-Man isn't in the poster at all. It's Venom. Venom will simply be represented as an evil clone of Spider-Man for the third film, since a faithful duplicate of his comic incarnation would take 900 years of CG.

Sorry, I am correct.

soulsteelgray Mar 2, 2006 06:45 PM

I'm kinda iffy on the whole black costume deal. When I first saw the image, I thought it was an emo-fied image of Spidey until my friend informed me that it wasn't black-and-white.

I guess I'll have to wait for more images and the teaser trailer to make a call on it, though.

Have we gone back in time? Spider-Man 2?

Kaleb.G Mar 2, 2006 07:30 PM

Title fixed. Resume your important discussion.

Acro-nym Mar 2, 2006 07:41 PM

I've seen this picture three times now and I still can't tell if that's truly a black costume, with the same silver-ish webbing on the costume, or if the picture is just really dark and shadowed. I mean, it is raining in the picture...

T1249NTSCJ Mar 2, 2006 07:44 PM

I'm weary about the scaling on that costume, those threads didn't appear in Spidey 2 even when zoomed in. :eyebrow:

J-Man Mar 2, 2006 07:46 PM

I white spidey costume would be totally bitchin'.

Arkhangelsk Mar 2, 2006 07:47 PM

I'll just be pissed if they radically re-design the Venom suit (ie: no big white spider on the chest). Who knows, maybe it only looks different on Spidey, and when it's on Eddie it will be more like the comic.

I'm still pissed about using Topher Grace for Eddie Brock. It's Eric Foreman. Fuck. But I was hoping that they would hold off on Venom until SM4, building up the character more. But as long as they don't put more than one villain in the third movie (like rumors were saying, with Sandman or something) I'll be happy.

And if Venom has adequately spectacular CG, of course.

Fire On Ice Mar 2, 2006 07:48 PM

I still can't believe there might be more then one villain. I'm not a Spidey expert but from what I've seen, one arch foe has been enough to more then just mess with Peter Parker. Besides, Tobey Maguire is really getting on my nerves.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 2, 2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Sorry, I am a fucking moron.

Corrected

acid Mar 2, 2006 08:21 PM

I'm going to say this once.

Sam Raimi has not confirmed that Topher Grace is playing Eddie Brock/Venom. It has not been confirmed that Venom is even in the film. Period.

Sony Pictures has said that the Spider-Man 3 teaser poster is not simply a black and white Spider-Man. It is the black costume. However, that still doesn't mean that Venom is in the movie. Remember, the black costume was around for 4 years before Venom came around. Before Spider-Man 1 even came out, Sam Raimi stated that he hated the character of Venom and that he wouldn't be appreaing in any of his movies.

That being said, it is a very very popular rumor. There is some evidence pointing towards this, but yet again, nothing official.

No official annoucement has been made on who Topher is playing. Until then, he could be Venom, he could be fucking Kraven for all we know.

Edit: Also that Q&A from AICN has no real source. For all we know it was a guy asking his neighbour who is going to be in Spider-Man 3.

Simo Mar 2, 2006 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Acro-nym
I've seen this picture three times now and I still can't tell if that's truly a black costume, with the same silver-ish webbing on the costume, or if the picture is just really dark and shadowed. I mean, it is raining in the picture...

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/top.jpg
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/im...gle_header.jpg
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/back.jpg

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/images/footer.gif
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/

AICN also had this Q&A up which they supposebly received before the photo was released that delved into which villains will be showing up, the deal with Venom, who dies etc but then was "told" to remove it by Sony....

...Here it is though for anyone interested:
Spoiler:
Q1. Who are the villains and how much screentime does each one get?

A. Venom,Sandman, and GG2. Sandman is the main one, building up to venom at end. GG has a good amount,
though not sure how much time. He's in 2 major battles.

Q2.Does the GG look cool,how much green does he have on him, is his black snow suit have a black hood that covers the top of his head,do the belts on his legs hold pumpkin bombs,is his goggles yellow lens,does he wear gloves of any kind,and why does Harry go with this suit instead of the one his father used?

A. He looks cool as an individual idea. But again, nothing remotely goblin like about him except the weapons, glider and some green on him. No hood, the belts hold two swords. One long one on his back, a smaller one on his right leg. Pumpkins bombs are in his glider. Goggles are black. He has a green mouthmask. Gloves are black. No idea why. Possible to make it more to his liking, a way to "improve".

Q3.Does Venom fight in this movie or does he just show up as a cliffhanger?

A. Yes he fights. Again, he will fight Spidey with Sandman at the end, the movie leads up to this "battle royale" at the construction site. GG will also join in the fight, but not on the sides of Ven/San. GG fights with Spidey instead.

A.I've seen the costume of Venom (yes hes in it, but only towards the end) and its extremely cool. Think all black latex with veins all over his upper half, reaching over onto his arms. However the veins also shape into the Spider thats on his chest in the comics (no white). Venom will be a little larger than. spidey. Basically the bad version of spidey. Venom has nasty teeth, no where near exaggerated in the comics. Just really sharp yellow teeth, very fang like, it will be prosthetics. Tongue will be CG.

Q5.I'm kinda confused,does spidey wear the symbiote before Brock gets it?

A.Yes. After his date with MJ, the symbiote clings to his shoe and waits for Parker in his room one night. He then wakes up upside down on the side of a building wearing the symbiote costume.

Q6.If spidey does wear the symbiote,what does it look like exactly?

A.The same costume as blue/red only black with all the scale detail and webbing over it. Not impressive. It looks like this because it stuck onto his old costume then it clung on Peter.

Q7.And how long does he wear the suit?

A.For right now, a good chunk since the movie is about Peter and how the symbiote possesses him, and the decisions he has to make.

Q8.Who does he fight with it?

A.Sandman, robbers, and Harry

Q9.What makes him take it off?

A.Bell Tower.

Q10.What kind of things does Sandman do in this movie power wise?

Grows a lot. Sandstorms. Hand as a sledgehammer and mace. The FX will raise the bar.

Q11.Where do all the fights take place on/at?

A.All over. In the air/Alley, underground subway, armoured truck in the streets, construction site.

Q12.Is there a cliffhanger at the end of this movie?

A.Not currently. But there is one scene that leaves questions opened about the return of the symbiote.

Q13.Who does Bruce Campbell play?

A.He has a cameo as somebody named Quentin Beck.

Q14.Where does the symbiote come from?

A.An astroid.

Q15.Does spidey wear his regular red and blue spidey suit in the movie?

Yes. At the beginning and end of the movie.
Q16.Is S-M3 and S-M4 being made back to back?

A.Nope.

Q17.Is Venom going to be the villain for S-M4,or is S-M3 going to be it for him?

A.End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself.

Q18.Are there lots of fights/action in this movie?

A.TONS. Four BIG fight sequences. All very fun, and clever. Wont be disappointed in that department. Be prepared for A LOT of fight sequences including a revisit to the subway fight sequence (only underground this time).


Q19. What is that church for?

A.The church sequence is used when Black Symbiote Spidey attempts to tear his suit off by the ringing of the church bell. Unknown to him that right under him in the church Brock is walking in where pieces of the symbiote land on him and then bond with him.


Q20. Do GG2 and Spidey ever face off?

A.Yes. I will mention one fight scene at the beginning of the movie in particular. Harry in full GG Glory first attacks peter, and tosses him into the side of the building. This also where they have a huge airal fight sequence leading to a chase into an alley where (yes as a previous plot spoiler had reported) Harry is knocked out and Peter saves him and brings him to a hospital.


Q21. How much screen time does Dr.Connors have,does he mention anything about lizard experiments?

A. Connors studies the symbiote sample. So we see the inside of his lab. A lot of Lizards references.

Q22.Who dies?
A. Harry and Aunt May.

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 08:32 PM

Sorry, but I gotta call bullshit.

Why would they practically spell out the entire movie.

Newbie1234 Mar 2, 2006 08:46 PM

There's a more than just a TON of expectations heaped on Spidey 3. I can't see how Raimi's going to pull this off, but I'll definitely be watching this the day it's in theatres.

The black suit doesn't impress me much, just a way to get some free publicity, and build up hype.

I just hope they don't screw up the "look" of Venom, and give Bruce Campbell another memorable cameo.

Soldier Mar 2, 2006 09:56 PM

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Title fixed. Resume your important discussion.
I typed Spider-Man 2? Damn. ><

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Sorry, I am speculating just like everyone else. I don't know shit.
Fixed.

Here's a cool fan-shopped image of the same pic.

http://images.aintitcool.com/images2...ackenstein.jpg

I'm pretty sure Sandman won't be the main villain. I honestly always viewed Sandman as a B grade villain. The hired muscle, if you will. I think Sandman's screentime will only serve as a flashy opening, and nothing more. I can't really imagine a whole movie dedicated to him.

Even with Hobgoblin, I think there's enough time to develop Brock and the black costume. Near the end, Peter gets rid of the suit, and it bonds with Eddie. Then, just when you think the movie is nearing the end, an extra 20 minutes is added to have Spidey clash with a newly created Venom.

To me, the perfect way to introduce Venom would be his first encounter with MJ in the comics, where he's standing in the shadows, and she thinks it's Peter. But then a twisted smile forms around the black mask, and the hulking figure steps out of the shadows. "Hi, Honey...."

http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/...mazing300a.jpg

That would be so awesome.

Dizzy Mar 2, 2006 10:00 PM

I found this in IMDB forums...It may clear some stuff...
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6...eyhouse2uz.jpg

Megalith Mar 2, 2006 10:31 PM

Yeah.

You can even see Galactus fighting Silver Surfer if you squint hard enough.

chato Mar 2, 2006 10:35 PM

i was hoping itd be more like the spider-man animated series(the neogenic nightmare..or was it symbiot-err fuck it)... but oh well. im looking forward to this anyway. i just hope Eric Foreman doesn't fuck up..this is one of those big films and i hope he does a great job as eddie brock.

Hantei Mar 2, 2006 10:56 PM

So, uh, who isn't is/are the villain(s)?

I'm assuming Green Goblin will make a return (as it was kinda implied by the end of 2) and now I hear Sandman and Venom are in the movie. With the later being more of a rumor.

So, yea, could someone give a clear list as to who the new villain(s) is/are?

Simo Mar 2, 2006 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hantei
So, uh, who isn't is/are the villain(s)?

I'm assuming Green Goblin will make a return (as it was kinda implied by the end of 2) and now I hear Sandman and Venom are in the movie. With the later being more of a rumor.

So, yea, could someone give a clear list as to who the new villain(s) is/are?

Sandman and Venom seem a given considering we've already seen a photo of Thomas Hayden Church as Flint Marko AKA Sandman and Spider-Man in the black suit pretty much confirms Venom showing up in some form or another.

Soldier Mar 2, 2006 11:14 PM

The only confirmed villain is Sandman. The rest are rumored, including Venom, Electro, Green Goblin II, Hobgoblin, Vulture, and Mysterio. Oh, and Kraven too, I guess. It's either Hobgoblin and/or Venom.

T1249NTSCJ Mar 2, 2006 11:34 PM

GG2 has to be in Spider-Man 3 with the ending the gave us in the 2nd. Unless they plan on pulling off what was done from Batman Returns to Forever. :aargh:

Soldier Mar 3, 2006 01:39 AM

And uh, what did they pull off from Batman Returns to Forever?

Megalith Mar 3, 2006 02:02 AM

http://comicsnewsi.net//g/albums/DC/...batman/Cat.jpg

Kilroy Mar 3, 2006 03:25 AM

Haha, I actually laughed out loud when reading that
Spoiler:
Bruce Campbell "should" play Quentin Beck.


I wouldn't mind if S-M3 played out like the spoiler above, but no matter what, I'm pretty sure that it's going to be good.
I for one liked Tobey's Peter Parker, for that matter, all the actors. They just seemed right in my book.

Megalith Mar 3, 2006 03:41 AM

I hope the score isn't awful since Elfman won't be involved.

I like how the Spider-Man theme is better than Superman or Batman.

T1249NTSCJ Mar 3, 2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
And uh, what did they pull off from Batman Returns to Forever?

Well that ending with the Catwoman left the possibility of her reappearing in the third film but once Forever was made there no mention of Selina at all. :annoyed:

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Originally Posted by Megalith
I hope the score isn't awful since Elfman won't be involved.

I like how the Spider-Man theme is better than Superman or Batman.

Hmmm, I would think the Spider-Man theme is the weakest of the three. :eyebrow:

WraithTwo Mar 3, 2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
Well that ending with the Catwoman left the possibility of her reappearing in the third film but once Forever was made there no mention of Selina at all. :annoyed:



Hmmm, I would think the Spider-Man theme is the weakest of the three. :eyebrow:

Honestly, I won't see this shit if they're stupid enough to drop the GG thing. That's the best part about the movies (and one of my fav stories in the comics, escpecially before they ressurected Norman).

- WraithTwo -

Eleo Mar 3, 2006 04:39 PM

I remember when that Star Wars Episode III poster came out; people talking about how there were 900 hidden images of Darth Vader + Waldo if you looked hard enough. I never saw that shit.

CG human animation always sucks, unless it's Terminator 2 in which case somehow it's timeless.

CG bums me out. It's so overused these days, I wonder if we'll just replace actors with CG models. That was the plan they had for Aki from the Final Fantasy movie. I don't think it was a dumb idea, it was just ahead of its time and of course the unsuccess of Final Fantasy contributed to the general fuckno response.

Meth Mar 3, 2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Legato
CG human animation always sucks, unless it's Terminator 2 in which case somehow it's timeless.

CG bums me out. It's so overused these days...


WraithTwo was talking about GG as in Green Goblin.

WraithTwo, and yeah I agree. They totally set this 3rd movie up for Harry to become GG and fight Peter, but now all this crazy talk about venom and junk. Also they went through the trouble of establishing Dr. Conors (mentioned him in the first and showed him in the 2nd) you'd think that they'd use that and have him fight the Lizard as a secondary villian.

Son of Wiseness Mar 3, 2006 04:51 PM

They better make this one a good one. In my opinon the first Spiderman was better then the second.

Megalith Mar 3, 2006 04:54 PM

The problem with the Lizard is that he would be yet another "fatherly figure that goes bad" character.

Gotta change it up a bit. The Lizard costume would probably look great though.

I actually just finished watching Spider-Man 2 again. The DTS soundmix is out of this world.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 3, 2006 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
I hope the score isn't awful since Elfman won't be involved.

I like how the Spider-Man theme is better than Superman or Batman.

Make up your mind

WraithTwo Mar 3, 2006 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Make up your mind

I think he did. He clearly like Elfman's score and prefers it to Batmans and Supermans.

- WraithTwo -

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 3, 2006 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WraithTwo
I think he did. He clearly like Elfman's score and prefers it to Batmans and Supermans.

- WraithTwo -

REREAD WHAT HE WROTE, FUCKTARD

The score by Danny Elfman was awful - but the theme is great? ISN'T THE THEME PART OF THE SCORE?

BOTH OF YOU: STOP BEING STUPID ON MY INTERNET

acid Mar 4, 2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
WraithTwo was talking about GG as in Green Goblin.

WraithTwo, and yeah I agree. They totally set this 3rd movie up for Harry to become GG and fight Peter, but now all this crazy talk about venom and junk. Also they went through the trouble of establishing Dr. Conors (mentioned him in the first and showed him in the 2nd) you'd think that they'd use that and have him fight the Lizard as a secondary villian.

They haven't established Dr. Connors at all though. He had bit parts in both movies. What amounts to a cameo appearance does not mean he deserves a shot in the sequal.

John Jameson was in the second one. So Spidey should fight Man-Wolf?
Dr.Mendell Stromm was in the first. Should he fight The Robot Master?
Hell, they even made mention of Brock in the first one. Venom hasn't shown up yet.

Personally I hope to god this Venom nonsense is bogus. I have a deep hatred of that character and the popularity that he does not deserve. They may as well have named him Spider-Man XtReMe.

WraithTwo Mar 4, 2006 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
REREAD WHAT HE WROTE, FUCKTARD

The score by Danny Elfman was awful - but the theme is great? ISN'T THE THEME PART OF THE SCORE?

BOTH OF YOU: STOP BEING STUPID ON MY INTERNET

If you would pay attention to what he said, he never contradicted himself. The wording is akward, but all he was saying is that he hopes the score doesn't suck now that Elfman isn't working on it.

- WraithTwo -

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 4, 2006 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WraithTwo
...all he was saying is that he hopes the score doesn't suck now that Elfman isn't working on it.

Do you go to a fucking "English As A Second Language" class or something? Are you on fucking medication or were you born this fucking stupid. Where do you get that when he said

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalith
I hope the score isn't awful since Elfman won't be involved.



You are stupid. Stop making my internet stupid. Fucking stupid cumguzzling fucktardenstein. Stop posting already.

WraithTwo Mar 4, 2006 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Do you go to a fucking "English As A Second Language" class or something? Are you on fucking medication or were you born this fucking stupid. Where do you get that when he said



You are stupid. Stop making my internet stupid. Fucking stupid cumguzzling fucktardenstein. Stop posting already.

Dude, fucking read the sentence yourself before you post about it.

Good day,
- WraithTwo -

Acro-nym Mar 4, 2006 10:04 PM

Spider-Man 2 was a vastly superior movie to the first one, much like X2 was a superior to the first one of that series. If they make a movie with three villains, it will only become cluttered. I honestly hope they don't put Venom in the movie. Spidey already has an archfoe in this movie... assuming they do it correctly. Why does he need two? No, I think it would just be fine with a lesser villain (like Sandman, Vulture, etc.) along with the Green Goblin. Even putting the black suit on Spidey might still make it a little too cluttered, but I guess it would have to depend on the execution.

Megalith Mar 4, 2006 10:23 PM

I don't know how far they plan to evolve the film franchise, but I want to see a rendition of Maximum Carnage, in which Spider-Man and Venom have to team up against Carnage. There's actually a rumor that there will be a cameo of Kletus Cassidy in the third film.

I love Spider-Man, but the problem is that the comic has the stupidest villains I've ever seen in the entire universe. Who the hell cares about fishbowl head and bird man. Spider-Man should just stay home and watch TV.

Sandman is also going to seem weird, since the first two villains were still grounded in reality. I mean, we have a guy turning into sand now. What.

And leaving Venom at the very end ain't a bad idea. Spider-Man could rely on the symbiote to defeat Sandman, until it starts to take him over near the very end of the movie. The problem is introducing Sandman and his origin, as well as how the symbiote lands on Earth, and Brock's drama with Peter as well.

WraithTwo Mar 4, 2006 10:37 PM

Yeah, if they really include all this shit, the movies either gonna be 4 hours or far too cluttered to be any good (or a combination/comprimise of the two). Honestly, fuck Venom. That shit's probably gonna be butchered unless they focus an entire movie on it, and have some leadup from a previous one. Just wrap up the Osborne story instead of starting another arc that is equally large in size.

- WraithTwo -

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 5, 2006 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
I don't know how far they plan to evolve the film franchise, but I want to see a rendition of Maximum Carnage, in which Spider-Man and Venom have to team up against Carnage. There's actually a rumor that there will be a cameo of Kletus Cassidy in the third film.

Three movie deal. Sam Raimi, Toby and Kirsten have been adament they will not return if there is a fourth movie.

orion_mk3 Mar 5, 2006 01:32 PM

From what I've seen, the score will be written by Christopher Young. Considering that, according to Elfman, Raimi went temp-track-mad in Spider-Man 2 (tracking in the first score and some Hellraiser cues, and making Elfman swear he would never work with Raimi again), and considering that Young rewrote the train sequence in Spider-Man 2 using Elfman's theme, it seems likely that the theme will return.

Whether it'll be a Harry Potter 4 (where just the theme was retained) or Superman 2 (where the entire score for the first movie was besically just cut up and resequenced) is anyone's guess. I'm personally cuatiously optomistic.

Meth Mar 5, 2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Three movie deal. Sam Raimi, Toby and Kirsten have been adament they will not return if there is a fourth movie.


I'd like to see a source for that info cause I've got it somewhat differently.

http://comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/1918.asp

Check out the link to the vid with Sam Raimi where he states that he thinks that there will be 6 films and that if he feels as passionate about the characters and the story that "there's no way they'd be able to keep me away from it."

As much money as they're making with these movies they'd be fools not to keep them going at least until the well dries up and people don't pay for it anymore. Sure movie making is about art and storytelling, but bottom line, it's a business.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 5, 2006 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
As much money as they're making with these movies they'd be fools not to keep them going at least until the well dries up and people don't pay for it anymore. Sure movie making is about art and storytelling, but bottom line, it's a business.

Dunst said on Letterman that all three contracts are up after the third movie. Theres obviously a want to have them renew but Dunst is not especially interested (or didn't see that way) and the movies take a *lot* out of Toby (though I can see him wanting to do more if its Sam Raimi's movie)

I'm fairly certain that Raimi would like to move on though. Three movies is enough, if you ask me.

jouhou Mar 5, 2006 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
BOTH OF YOU: STOP BEING STUPID ON MY INTERNET

Netsss, Internetsss, there's a 'S', it's plural.

Anyway, Toby might not want to do anymore spiderman movies but well made comic book movies are going to go a long way. Look at how many batman movies there are. Different Bruces but it's still on going.

Megalith Mar 5, 2006 08:45 PM

You mean comic book movies that make money.

xiaowei Mar 5, 2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
I'm fairly certain that Raimi would like to move on though. Three movies is enough, if you ask me.

It didn't stop the Lucas.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 5, 2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xiaowei
It didn't stop the Lucas.

Apples and oranges.

Quote:

Originally Posted by George Lucas
I'm very concerned about our national heritage and I'm very concerned that the films I watched when I was young and the films I watched through out my life are preserved, so that my children can see them


joshi Mar 5, 2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith
Too bad it's Spider-Man 3, idiot.

Spider-Man isn't in the poster at all. It's Venom. Venom will simply be represented as an evil clone of Spider-Man for the third film, since a faithful duplicate of his comic incarnation would take 900 years of CG.

Sorry, I am correct.

no, you're completely retarded.

Meth Mar 6, 2006 03:03 AM

love those first page quotes.

VeryLaZ Mar 29, 2006 10:22 PM

New Pic?
 
http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=22888

While the pic may not be real, it still is cool to see the new suit.

acid Mar 30, 2006 01:15 AM

Megalith is (uhh, I can't believe it's come to this) correct. Hell, even AICN has gone back and said "yeah it's a fake".

Still, nice Photoshop work though.

Meth Mar 30, 2006 01:19 AM

That's cheap ass photoshoppin'. Some dork pulled that off in like 10mins.

Megalith Mar 30, 2006 01:57 AM

Rumored plot:

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/03/2...ers-plot-leak/

BluencoolX Apr 2, 2006 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Megalith

Interesting. If true, it will be a Spiderman VS Venom showdown for Spiderman 4... or like what Megalith hopes, the Carnage storyline.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 2, 2006 10:58 PM

The sandman aspect of that synopsis was taken from the early James Cameron Spider-Man project from the early 90s.

Most likely, its all BS.

Arkhangelsk Apr 2, 2006 11:31 PM

God no. I would hate to see Carnage show up in the fourth movie...I mean, they need to establish Venom before they bring in any more symbiotes. maybe later on they could bring in Carnage, and then have Venom turn around and grudgingly partner up with Spiderman. But not by the fourth movie.

I'm thinking that they're going to have Green Goblin II/Harry Osborne (rumored to be turned into Hobgoblin instead of GGII) and Sandman be the focus of this third movie, with Eddie Brock there to get screwed by Spiderman at critical points. Meanwhile, Peter will be fighting himself with the new suit, and somehow while struggling with the suit he'll end up killing Gwen (that way at least he'll still feel guilt for that, even if it's in a different way). Then at the end, when there's nothing left of the other villains, I think the suit switch will happen and Venom will show up. But not 'til the very end.

And speaking of Venom/Brock, some pictures were posted of Topher Grace with his Brock hair (blonde):
http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9...pher2ue.th.png http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/9...erii1ub.th.png

I'm starting to get used to the idea of him playing Venom. I've heard rumors that he's bulked up (although how much is up for grabs, I've heard anywhere from 25-60 lbs) and with the different color of hair he's looking less like dweeby Foreman and more like...well...not Foreman.

SketchTheArtist Apr 2, 2006 11:44 PM

What pisses me off is that MJ will probably get kidnapped again. God I hate her in the movie versions.

joshi Apr 3, 2006 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by acid
Megalith is (uhh, I can't believe it's come to this) correct.

that's not funny...

chato Apr 3, 2006 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
What pisses me off is that MJ will probably get kidnapped again. God I hate her in the movie versions.


I heard..

Spoiler:
they might kill her off.

Eleo Apr 3, 2006 03:30 PM

Why would they do that? I thought she was in the comic since forever.

chato Apr 3, 2006 03:43 PM

well you know comics.There's usually an alternate universe. Then again, im not big in the earlier chapters but i am reading the recent ones . (obviously they have nothing to do with the movie ;p)

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 3, 2006 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chato
well you know comics. There's usually an alternate universe.

I had hoped that Bendis would've had the sack to kill off Mary Jane and keep Gwen Stacey in Ultimate Spider-Man - but not only did he kill off Gwen but killed her off in the most exceedingly stupid way possible. I stopped reading after that.

Eleo Apr 3, 2006 04:14 PM

Comics go through various levels of shittiness based on the writers and artists.

Then bucks says if Mary Jane did die in the comic she would have somehow been resurrected or some shit. God knows you can't really change some of the key aspects of a comic. Refer to Superman's long hair or temporary alternate costume.

SketchTheArtist Apr 3, 2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chato
I heard..

Spoiler:
they might kill her off.


Fingers crossed. :biggrin:

Arkhangelsk Apr 3, 2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chato
I heard..
Spoiler:
they might kill her off.

There's a good possiblity for this, since Kirstin Dunst is allegedly signed up for only three Spiderman movies. Or maybe that's just a rumor, like everything else. In any event, here's a picture of the girl that is in talks to play Gwen Stacy (according to Variety.com), Bryce Dallas Howard:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/noje/0601/...8bryce_368.jpg

Can't find a picture of her as a blonde.

And I certainly hope that the writers don't try to do anything approaching the "Ultimate" Venom origin. I don't like the logo-less costume design nor the origin of the suit, but I have a bad feeling they're going to do something exactly like that for the movie version :(.

Cirno Apr 3, 2006 04:58 PM

Didn't Venon get his spider-logo across his chest at the end of the Ultimate Spider-Man video game? I read somewhere that the events in the game are canon material.

Freddy Krueger Apr 3, 2006 05:05 PM

Ugh, she isn't all that great looking. Although it is Peter Parker we are talking about =p

Soldier Apr 3, 2006 05:38 PM

Quote:

Didn't Venon get his spider-logo across his chest at the end of the Ultimate Spider-Man video game? I read somewhere that the events in the game are canon material.
Suddenly I have an incentive to finish that game, if this proves true. It bothered me tremendously that Ultimate Venom didn't have his symbol (keep in mind I still have to get the "Hobgoblin" TBP, so if this is common news now, I'm out of the loop).

Mucknuggle Apr 3, 2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Emmanuel Lewis
Didn't Venon get his spider-logo across his chest at the end of the Ultimate Spider-Man video game? I read somewhere that the events in the game are canon material.

They're cannon, apparently. It makes no sense though because in a later story arc in USM, Silver Sable is hired to go after SM and she has no idea who he is - which contradicts the game. But anyhow...

Acro-nym Apr 3, 2006 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleo
Comics go through various levels of shittiness based on the writers and artists.

Then bucks says if Mary Jane did die in the comic she would have somehow been resurrected or some shit. God knows you can't really change some of the key aspects of a comic. Refer to Superman's long hair or temporary alternate costume.

Well, keep in mind that they sort of resurrected Gwen in the comics by have the Jackal create a clone.

Oh, and if anyone needs to see Bryce Dallas Howard as a blonde, watch The Village or find snapshots from it. I suggest the latter, seeing as it's a pretty dull movie.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 3, 2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleo
Comics go through various levels of shittiness based on the writers and artists.

Then bucks says if Mary Jane did die in the comic she would have somehow been resurrected or some shit. God knows you can't really change some of the key aspects of a comic. Refer to Superman's long hair or temporary alternate costume.

"There are no pearly gates but instead, revolving doors" - Professor X

Luck would have it that Spider-Man largely had some of the most creative writing Marvel ever had which is why he's still around. The costume change thing *is* stupid - the black costume was around at the time to cash in on counterculture with their crazy, thin ties and pastel Miami Vice clothing - and its something from which Spider-Man has repeatedly gone into. Scarlet Spider... Spider-Armor... that other costume change in the late 1990s...

Shenlon Apr 3, 2006 06:31 PM

weren't there rumors about gwen stacy coming into the mix to create a love triangle between peter and mj. and as some of you know:

Spoiler:
green goblin kills gwen stacy, and they already hinted in the movie that harry is already going to be the next green goblin ^_^


Either way, somebodies going to get killed and I don't mean just the villian.

chato Apr 3, 2006 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
I had hoped that Bendis would've had the sack to kill off Mary Jane and keep Gwen Stacey in Ultimate Spider-Man - but not only did he kill off Gwen but killed her off in the most exceedingly stupid way possible. I stopped reading after that.

Which is why i only keep 2 of the issues. damnit ralph macchio .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eleo
Comics go through various levels of shittiness based on the writers and artists.

Then bucks says if Mary Jane did die in the comic she would have somehow been resurrected or some shit. God knows you can't really change some of the key aspects of a comic. Refer to Superman's long hair or temporary alternate costume.

Then we have.. The Spiderman Animated Series. I was hoping she died for good or just lost in the portal in Green Goblin's device. Instead, she came back with the hydro's powers and pretty much vaporized into liquid afterwards".

Ark : If she's playing as Gwen Stacy, i guess thats not so bad. Anything that'll just put Kirsten Dunst "crazy/beautiful" ass to shame.

Megalith Apr 3, 2006 06:41 PM

I doubt Spider-Man 3 will be better than 2.

I like how Danny Elfman and the guy who did the CG work left.

T1249NTSCJ Apr 3, 2006 06:45 PM

What did Dykstra leave for again...Hot Wheels. :lolsign:
Anywho, the CG in both Spiderman flicks wasn't anything worth noting and hopefully this leaves the possibility of some decent CG.

Megalith Apr 3, 2006 06:47 PM

The CG in the first film was terrible, but the second had some of the best I've seen.

T1249NTSCJ Apr 3, 2006 06:53 PM

Straight off the Superbit Edition DVD...:eyebrow:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2355/pdvd0040oq.png

evergreen Apr 3, 2006 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
Straight off the Superbit Edition DVD...:eyebrow:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2355/pdvd0040oq.png

That's one or two? Wow, that is pretty bad. If I didn't know it was a screencap, I'd say it was Photoshopped.

Megalith Apr 3, 2006 07:09 PM

Golly gee whiz, that sure does look awful.

T1249NTSCJ Apr 3, 2006 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evergreen
That's one or two? Wow, that is pretty bad. If I didn't know it was a screencap, I'd say it was Photoshopped.

Spidey 2, pizza delivery scene. :doh:

evergreen Apr 3, 2006 07:13 PM

If that's the gold standard in Spidey effects, then I really shouldn't rag on those fanmade stills for three with Venom. Those look just about on par with that shot.

Freddy Krueger Apr 3, 2006 07:43 PM

this is off-topic sorry but what is that in your avatar evergreen? Whats it from and whats happening? looks nuts =p

Tomzilla Apr 3, 2006 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
Straight off the Superbit Edition DVD...:eyebrow:

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2355/pdvd0040oq.png

Damn you!

Every time I watch Spider-Man 2 and that scene comes up, I always sigh and turn away for a few seconds. Don't get me wrong, the movie rocks and I like it better than the first movie, but it doesn't have flawless special effects.


If they kill MJ off, I hope they pull it off smoothly. Despite my criticisms to Kirsten Dunst, I still respect and care for the character. If she is going to meet her end in the third movie or any other, it better knock my socks off and make me shed a tear.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 3, 2006 08:07 PM

Yeah because seeing a guy swing around New York City on thin strands of gloop is so fucking real in the first place

Come off it

RYU Apr 3, 2006 08:55 PM

what about this TEASER TRAILER:

http://x11.putfile.com/2/4402592937.gif

Freddy Krueger Apr 3, 2006 09:02 PM

ONOES SPAWN IN SM3 LOL

Cirno Apr 3, 2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RYU
what about this TEASER TRAILER:

http://x11.putfile.com/2/4402592937.gif

Looks legit to me. Call CNN and the Entertainment Tonight immediately.

soulsteelgray Apr 3, 2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RYU
what about this TEASER TRAILER:

http://x11.putfile.com/2/4402592937.gif

It's actually a fake.

Tomzilla Apr 4, 2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Yeah because seeing a guy swing around New York City on thin strands of gloop is so fucking real in the first place

Come off it

Never insinuated it had to look ‘so fucking real’ in the first place.


I’d get a good laugh if that fan-made ‘teaser’ trailer turned out valid and Spawn suddenly appeared out of the blue. It would be awesome if he was the one that killed MJ, too.

Best Idea Ever

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 4, 2006 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomzilla
Never insinuated it had to look ‘so fucking real’ in the first place.

Then quit the whining. You sound like your crotch is spitting out the peices of unused future generations.

Tomzilla Apr 4, 2006 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
You sound like your crotch is spitting out the peices of unused future generations.

Sounds like you’re speaking from experience.

solid_snake Apr 5, 2006 08:24 AM

maybe harry will come as a villain because the spiderman 2 ending gave a hint of harry being the next green goblin and people who saw the movie believed that harry would return in the movie as the next green goblin. so there might be a sequence in the end where they completely show us that harry has transformed into a villain since the movie is all about sandman terrorizing the town.

oh and about that teaser trailer in the part where sand is comming through the door key place, it is the same scene that was in the movie 'the mummy' though im not sure.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 5, 2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomzilla
Sounds like you’re speaking from experience.

Yes, I know many women - all of which have this problem of yours

Meth Apr 5, 2006 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Yes, I know many women - all of which have this problem of yours

I love how this discussion stays so strictly on topic. now what exactly does this have to do with Spider-man?

that teaser is clever, but obviously fake. nice april fools joke.

Wall Feces Apr 11, 2006 04:44 PM

Venom confirmed.

http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14056

Quote:

MSN Movies chatted with Thomas Haden Church about playing Sandman in Spider-Man 3, an interview in which he talked about the story and confirmed Venom is in the film:

"[Director Sam Raimi] and I started having really involved sessions about who the guy was," Church says. "Clearly, it's taken from the fourth issue of 'Spider-Man,' which was when Sandman was introduced and which I now have framed on my wall."

Church is still sworn to secrecy regarding plot details (he might want to consider moonlighting as a CIA agent), but he wants to let fans know they won't be disappointed.

"I'm overwhelmed every time I'm around Sam," Church says. "He's been showing me [stuff] since the beginning of last summer. 'This is what we are going to be doing in this sequence, this is what Spider-Man is going to be doing and this is what Venom is going to be doing.' It is a massive, massive process."


Well there you go, Thomas Hayden Church spills it.

I for one am pumped, since Venom is my favorite comic book villain of all time.

KCJ506 Apr 11, 2006 06:08 PM

LOL! That makes Church,Stan Lee and Kirsten Dunst spilling the beans

Dammit Sony just confirm it already. Nobody is going to be surprised now. The cat is well and truly out of the bag.

evergreen Apr 11, 2006 09:21 PM

Considering how one of his first 'hints' about who he was playing was "a composition of molecules" or something, he might just be pulling our legs. Dunst inadvertently spilling details, okay. Church, to me, is a less likely candidate. But hey, if it is Venom, neat, but official confirmation's the only thing that'll seal it for me.

Soldier Apr 11, 2006 09:25 PM

Same here. There's a load of difference between "playing Venom" and "playing the guy who WILL become Venom". Grace could just be speaking about the future when he mentions himself as Venom, when in reality he could only be playing Eddie Brock and nothing else for now. Hopefully this isn't the case and the true Venom does make an appearance.

evergreen Apr 11, 2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Same here. There's a load of difference between "playing Venom" and "playing the guy who WILL become Venom". Church could just be speaking about the future when he mentions himself as Venom, when in reality he could only be playing Eddie Brock and nothing else for now. Hopefully this isn't the case and the true Venom does make an appearance.

So you still don't think Grace is going to be Brock/Venom?

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 11, 2006 09:28 PM

I thought Church was playing Sandman, not Venom

Tomzilla Apr 11, 2006 09:41 PM

While I'd still prefer The Lizard over Venom (or any other villain), I think Raimi and his crew can pull off Venom. It almost sounds like there will be a side-story.

"...and this is what Venom is going to be doing."

But with Spider-Man being in a different attire, this can go in many directions. It sounds like they might introduce Venom halfway through. It's fun to speculate; I bet everyone could list a dozen ideas and the odds are, Raimi will surprise us.

WolfDemon Apr 11, 2006 10:26 PM

The first shot of "Venom" in that trailer looks pretty convincing, but that shot of Spawn in the end with the crappy mouth just slapped on is hilarious.

And I thought Sam Raimi hated Venom. Oh well.

Soldier Apr 11, 2006 10:48 PM

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So you still don't think Grace is going to be Brock/Venom?
Woops. Fixed.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 11, 2006 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomzilla
But with Spider-Man being in a different attire...

Has this even been confirmed? People are too quick to say that since the teaser poster has Spidey in black - he must be wearing a new costume!

But if you actually look at the damn thing - you realized that the ENTIRE picture is in that color tone. For all we know, its just a cloudy day.

Soldier Apr 11, 2006 10:51 PM

It was confirmed in the official site that it was a new costume. It even dispelled the color tone theory that you just mentioned.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 11, 2006 10:52 PM

Offical site? PM the link please

Tomzilla Apr 11, 2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
Has this even been confirmed? People are too quick to say that since the teaser poster has Spidey in black - he must be wearing a new costume!

But if you actually look at the damn thing - you realized that the ENTIRE picture is in that color tone. For all we know, its just a cloudy day.

http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/index.php

Click on 'Daily Bugle' - where you'll eventually find:

"You may think you’re looking at a black and white photo. Look closely, Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3."

I saw it prior to posting my statement, so I wouldn't be too quick to judge. Though I admit, before I read the official content on the site, I thought he wasn't wearing the classic black/white costume.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 11, 2006 11:05 PM

That picture is the teaser poster I just cited though.

Tomzilla Apr 11, 2006 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
That picture is the teaser poster I just cited though.

Yes, but my response was in regards to you wondering if Spider-Man was wearing a black suit or not. I wanted to confirm to you that the official site states that it is for real, and not the result of a cloudy day.

Zeal Apr 12, 2006 12:08 AM

As long as Carnage is introduced somewhere near the end, I'll give a crap.

Soldier Apr 12, 2006 12:26 AM

Okay, I just have to step in with all this Carnage talk; it ain't happening. There's just no way you can market a mass serial killer whose own suit is composed of his own blood (at least it was the last time I checked, way back in Maximum Carnage) to a PG-13 audience (still mostly composed of kids), not unless you want Carnage seriously gimped.

Honestly, Carnage had his moments back in the day, but overall I find him inferior to Venom. Venom has a cooler design and a cooler backstory (eternal hatred for Spidey). Carnage is just a psycho who wants to kill anything that isn't him, which I always felt was a little out of place in Spider-Man.

Maybe they could implement the Ultimate Carnage, an inhuman creature created from Peter's DNA, but I don't see, or really desire, the original showing up in the movies.

Zeal Apr 12, 2006 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
There's just no way you can market a mass serial killer whose own suit is composed of his own blood

lol please, leave.

Soldier Apr 12, 2006 12:37 AM

lol please, read.

Quote:

. During Maximum Carnage it is revealed that the symbiote has become a part of Kasady's blood and is unremovable from him: Kasady only needed to be cut for the symbiote to flood out to become Carnage once again
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnage_%28comics%29

Even if you omit that part, he's still a redneck serial killer. How would you market a character like that for a massively marketed movie like this?

Meth Apr 12, 2006 03:06 AM

while i think that an appearance of carnage in spidey 3 would be the dumbest fucking idea in the world...

when you said:

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Even if you omit that part, he's still a redneck serial killer. How would you market a character like that for a massively marketed movie like this?

dude, do you actually live in the US? People can market anything!!! Especially a redneck serial killer! It was called Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and it was so marketable that they did a remake that made them a fortune.

How funny would it be if the venom talk is all a plot by sony pics to generate a ton of hype. I can see them all around a table... "sweet, church just said the "v" word in an interview! all the fanboys are gonna go nuts!" Everybody will be disappointed when Grace (who plays a nobody bystander) gets killed by Sandman (or Harry as the GG) in the first 15mins of the movie. All the venom fanboys will cry.

Soldier Apr 12, 2006 04:05 AM

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It was called Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and it was so marketable that they did a remake that made them a fortune.
And the kids loved it.

That's the kind of audience that makes up a large percentage of Spidey movie fans: kids. And besides that point, the movie is very mainstream. If they try to make someone like Carnage the main badguy, it would be all over the media, stirring controversy all over. The kind of controvery Sony wouldn't want for one of their biggest franchises.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 12, 2006 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tomzilla
I wanted to confirm to you that the official site states that it is for real, and not the result of a cloudy day.

Eh, calling a cat a dog doesn't make it so. The fact that we see Darth Vader in Anakin's shadow on the Phantom Menace poster doesn't mean that it happens in the movie.

Does no one understand artistic liberty any more?

Meth Apr 12, 2006 04:44 PM

Lehah, when sony pics states "...Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3." it might just mean that he will wear a black suit.

Tomzilla Apr 12, 2006 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
Eh, calling a cat a dog doesn't make it so. The fact that we see Darth Vader in Anakin's shadow on the Phantom Menace poster doesn't mean that it happens in the movie.

Which is irrelevant. The official Star Wars website didn't officially state that Darth Vader will appear in the Phantom Menace. The Spider-Man website, however, does state Spider-Man is wearing his black costume and it isn't a black/white photo.

Sure, we could just wait until the movie's debut to be 100% certain, but when the website is literally spelling it out and we've seen numerous interviews confirming Venom, I'm leaning to the 'He's wearing a bloody black outfit' side.

Does no one understand artistic liberty any more?[/QUOTE]

Nope.

Soldier Apr 12, 2006 04:56 PM

Black Spidey=confirmed.

Eddie Brock=pretty much confirmed.

Eddie Brock turning into Venom in this movie=still sorta iffy.

Like I said, even if he does get the suit by the end of the movie, I'll still be disappointed unless we at least get a brief scuffle with Spidey and Venom. Having Venom appear in full is nice, but I want to see him in action.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 12, 2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
Lehah, when sony pics states "...Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3." it might just mean that he will wear a black suit.

And sometimes when they list David Hayter as the writer of X-Men - they actually mean the eight uncredited people that worked on it prior.

Quote:

The Spider-Man website, however, does state Spider-Man is wearing his black costume and it isn't a black/white photo.
If you think thats a photograph, you need to get your eyes checked, son.

Meth Apr 12, 2006 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
And sometimes when they list David Hayter as the writer of X-Men - they actually mean the eight uncredited people that worked on it prior.

apples and oranges buddy. they say, "spidey will wear a black suit" and "here's a picture of spidey in a black suit... no this is not a black and white picture." what part of that don't you understand? why must you read into shit? "no no, can't you all see! it's a black and white pic" or "it's cloudy out; you'd look black in that lighting too!" Do you just hate the idea of black suit spidey in the next movie?

call me crazy, but i'm slightly inclined to believe that he may have a black suit in the movie.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Apr 12, 2006 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
Do you just hate the idea of black suit spidey in the next movie?

Not so much as that no one can quantify shit so far. It seems somewhat stupid on part of Sony - if you want to show a black costume, you dont make the surrounding picture dark.

Soldier Apr 12, 2006 06:37 PM

Maybe they don't want to reveal a clear image of the costume yet.

T1249NTSCJ Apr 13, 2006 11:45 PM

Not sure exactly but it was from a questionable source mentioning that the symbiote had attached itself to the costume which was the reason for the change in color that we see in the teaser poster. It wasn't until Parker was lying in bed that the symbiote attached itself to his body/skin if you will and became the outfit we're used to seeing. But who knows for sure, this source hasn't been verified and we probably won't know a thing until the teaser trailer is released.

T1249NTSCJ May 29, 2006 04:48 PM

These images surfaced recently on AICN so in due time I expect them to be down probably on tuesday so I took the liberty to save these. Bit of interesting images mainly of Topher Grace as Brock. :sneaky:

http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/3...y3brock0sp.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/4...3brock21pc.jpg

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6...3brock42rt.jpg

No clue as to what went on here, but there is your black suit. :eyebrow:

http://img317.imageshack.us/img317/3...acksuit7yi.jpg

Meth May 29, 2006 04:59 PM

I'm waiting for Lehah to come in here and say... "look at that crummy photographic fakery! That pic is obviously photoshopped!"

Check the look on Tobey's face; looks like that damn evil symbiote has got to him. Hopefully he won't freak out and smash that camera.

T1249NTSCJ May 29, 2006 05:02 PM

Here are some on location photos (65), that image of Tobey doesn't sit well with me either but smart of 'em to mix it with a real batch.

http://www.lighthousenews.us/

Arkhangelsk May 29, 2006 05:09 PM

Indeed! Topher looks a lot more sinister than he has before :D. But that godawful bottle-yellow hair on Topher... it actually looks like the comic book color, but in this case I don't know if that's a good thing:
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2401/brock5xk.jpg
He still looks a bit shrimpy for Brock, also.

Meth May 29, 2006 05:48 PM

Oh shit, check imdb. Guess who's listed to play Carnage?! I'm sure it's just an awesome joke, but I'll bet it'll get a bunch of people all upset.

avanent May 29, 2006 05:55 PM

Brock is supose to be... a big guy.

Saving money by sharing venom suits? XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
Oh shit, check imdb. Guess who's listed to play Carnage?! I'm sure it's just an awesome joke, but I'll bet it'll get a bunch of people all upset.

Fantastic!!

T1249NTSCJ May 29, 2006 06:52 PM

You know after looking at those images from the lighthouse website, one question hit me. Isn't Ms.Howard a bit too heavy to be playing Gwen? :shh:

http://static.flickr.com/69/15565277...75dfd0.jpg?v=0

Freddy Krueger May 29, 2006 07:15 PM

Thats what I thought, looks like spidey wants some cushin for the pushin =p

acid May 29, 2006 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
You know after looking at those images from the lighthouse website, one question hit me. Isn't Ms.Howard a bit too heavy to be playing Gwen? :shh:

http://static.flickr.com/69/15565277...75dfd0.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/70/155652474_ba938c587b.jpg

"That'll do pig. That'll do."

I'll admit that I am liking Topher as Brock. While I'm still not crazy (read:hate) the idea of Venom in a movie, I'm not that troubled by his size. It's much more about how a character can be played to be menacing than simply his size.

Still though, I don't completely buy the idea of Venom being in the movie until we actually get some proof. Brock maybe, Venom I'm not so sure yet.

Freddy Krueger May 29, 2006 07:48 PM

LOL man you had me cracking up with the pig line seeing as I just saw that on tv not too long ago lol.

chato May 29, 2006 08:16 PM

Holy shit. Farmer Hogget is in the movie lol. Other than that movie. it looks like he would have potential to be whatever he is in the movie. He did a good job in Sum of all Fears.

KCJ506 Jun 1, 2006 04:27 PM

Four Spider-man villains?!

http://www.superherohype.com/news/sp...ws.php?id=4327

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Four Spider-Man 3 Villains!
Source: websguy June 1, 2006

Former Marvel Studios CEO Avi Arad may have let a big one out of the bag when talking to IFMagazine.com. He says there are four villains in Spider-Man 3!

iF: There are four villains this time, Venom, Sandman, and Green Goblin and when is the fourth going to be revealed?

ARAD: Right we have four villains. Pretty soon [we'll reveal the fourth villain] I believe. Maybe around Comic Con we'll reveal something and the madness will begin.

The full interview is available at the link above. The third installment hits theaters on May 4, 2007.

Freddy Krueger Jun 1, 2006 04:56 PM

WHOOO THATS MY B-DAY! Can't wait, so either this will be a fast paced fun action movie or a long movie with a lot of crazy shit going on, either way it seems cool.

Zip Jun 1, 2006 05:12 PM

it's probably just some bum that peter takes care of it in a 1 min scene just to show the power of the suit.

Freddy Krueger Jun 1, 2006 05:34 PM

Maybe its Gwen's fatass, she cant fullfill her desire for food and starts to go on a eating rampage eating all the folks in N.Y. and Spider-Man is our only hope!

Radical Daddy Jun 1, 2006 05:37 PM

Spiderman is so sweet

Arkhangelsk Jun 1, 2006 05:53 PM

Well, it does mention on IMDB that Curt Connors/The Lizard is in SM3. Soooo...yeah. Not too happy about it, really. I love Venom, but even I don't want him in this movie until the absolute end (ie: just getting the costume and a sneak peak of what he looks like). But throwing in GG and Sandman? With the Lizard and possibly Venom? Did nobody learn anything from Batman Forever and Batman and Robin??

And Carnage just needs to stay out of this franchise altogether.

WolfDemon Jun 1, 2006 06:04 PM

Maybe it'll finally be the Lizard. Dr. Connors' appearances seemed to allude to it.

acid Jun 1, 2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJ506

Wasn't there just a Marvel movie that had way too many characters, and not nearly enough time to develop any of them properly? Oh right, X3.

Having Venom as a villian is bad enough, I think I'd Kraven myself if I had to sit through a movie with Carnage.

Spider-Man 3: The One for People with ADD

Freddy Krueger Jun 1, 2006 11:17 PM

yeah but with Superman being 2 an half hours long maybe this one will be as long or even longer which will equal better character development then the short X3

acid Jun 1, 2006 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger
yeah but with Superman being 2 an half hours long maybe this one will be as long or even longer which will equal better character development then the short X3

How exactly does the length of the Superman movie this summer relate to the length of the Spider-Man movie next summer?

Freddy Krueger Jun 2, 2006 01:20 AM

Just a guess that if someone is willing to make a superhero movie that long then spider-man being long may be possible. I mean SM2 was already 2 hours long so extended it a bit isnt too outa the question. As I said its just a guess i'm making.

WolfDemon Jun 2, 2006 11:59 PM

It would have to be long to have all those villains in it. Unless it's one villain just for the intro, with Spidey wearing the normal suit, two for the rest of the movie with the black suit, and then one for the ending, which would make the most sense with Brock becoming Venom in more or less the same way Harry finds the Green Goblin costume in the end of 2.

T1249NTSCJ Jun 3, 2006 02:35 AM

Just thinking out loud here but, Venom worked well in comics and in the animated series but I'm a bit worried as to how his voice will be handled in movie...let alone the CG :eyebrow:
Also good call on Raimi's behalf to have Spidey's webshooters organic. There would be alot of raised questions as to how the symbiote possessed Parker's abilities if they weren't. :lolsign:

DukeBox Jun 3, 2006 09:05 PM

Spidey gets a little too close and personal with Farmer Hogget :p
http://static.flickr.com/69/155651350_885455fc5f.jpg

"What's that Farmer Hogget? You want me to bend over, touch my toes, and baa?... But why?"
http://static.flickr.com/57/155651185_74375a7271.jpg

Ramenbetsu Jun 3, 2006 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon
It would have to be long to have all those villains in it. Unless it's one villain just for the intro, with Spidey wearing the normal suit, two for the rest of the movie with the black suit, and then one for the ending, which would make the most sense with Brock becoming Venom in more or less the same way Harry finds the Green Goblin costume in the end of 2.

I think what your saying could possibly be true. I doubt Raimi would put all those villains in there and make a rushjob. I think some will either just be hinted/alluded at or have very minor rolls. Though, with the black suit being in there, I think this seals the deal for Venom appearing in some form or the other.

T1249NTSCJ Jun 24, 2006 05:55 AM

Teaser trailer to be played with Superman Returns, unfortunately it will not be playing with IMAX screenings of Returns. :doh: Trailer description here.

ShinBojack Jun 25, 2006 12:43 AM

On a quick note, I just find it funny how DC movie trailers show for Marvel films and vice versa. Doesn't anyone else get a chuckle when they see this?

The trailer description is interesting, though I have to wonder how many CG shots will be shown, as the movie is still a year off. Unfinished sfx, here we come!!

Although it's already filled with villains, does anyone know if Lizard will show up here as well? Doc Conners was in part 2, and I would assume Raimi might delve into his transformation in some way, unless this is being saved for the second trilogy.

Arkhangelsk Jun 25, 2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
Although it's already filled with villains, does anyone know if Lizard will show up here as well?

Well, last time I had checked IMDB, it listed somebody as "Kurt Connors/The Lizard" and only had Topher Grace listed as "Eddie Brock." Now, there's no sign of Kurt and Topher is now "Eddie Brock/Venom."
Never has IMDB's disclaimer, "Since this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change; some data could be removed completely. been more true.
So...yeah. Who knows. I think that Connors will probably be in there as the doctor that Peter goes to for the symbiote removal, because I seriously doubt they'll bring in the cast of the FF for a guest appearance. And then they could introduce the audience to Connors in preparation for The Lizard in a future film.

acid Jun 25, 2006 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk
Well, last time I had checked IMDB, it listed somebody as "Kurt Connors/The Lizard" and only had Topher Grace listed as "Eddie Brock." Now, there's no sign of Kurt and Topher is now "Eddie Brock/Venom."
Never has IMDB's disclaimer, "Since this project is categorized as being in production, the data is subject to change; some data could be removed completely. been more true.
So...yeah. Who knows. I think that Connors will probably be in there as the doctor that Peter goes to for the symbiote removal, because I seriously doubt they'll bring in the cast of the FF for a guest appearance. And then they could introduce the audience to Connors in preparation for The Lizard in a future film.

Since IMDB can be edited by just about anyone, you really shouldn't trust it when it comes to up and coming movies like this. I could edit it to say that Adam West is going to play Carnage, but that doesn't make it so.

Also Connors already was introduced in #2 as Peter's professor. If he is in this I very highly doubt it will be anything more than a quick walk on.

ShinBojack Jun 25, 2006 10:44 PM

Yea, that's what I figured.

Though him being used as a helping hand for Peter for the symbiote sounds pretty damn plausible. A good way to give him some more screen time for sure.

I still absolutely abhor the fact that a skeleton such as Topher Grace is actually supposed to be Venom though. I'd say that Josh Lucas would've been a MUCH better choice for Eddie Brock; he has the acting ability, and if he trains enough, he can have a decent body for the character.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 25, 2006 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
I still absolutely abhor the fact that a skeleton such as Topher Grace is actually supposed to be Venom though. I'd say that Josh Lucas would've been a MUCH better choice for Eddie Brock; he has the acting ability, and if he trains enough, he can have a decent body for the character.

The fact that Topher got the role shows that Raimi has a better understanding of the material than goobers on the internet. The function of Venom has always been "evil Spider-Man" - they've just taken it an extra step to make Brock a parallel of Parker in a physical aspect.

Makes plenty of fucking sense to me, goober.

ShinBojack Jun 25, 2006 11:53 PM

The description of Venom as "evil Spider-Man" can be debated.

Venom is not the type of person who would just go on a random killing rampage as say, Carnage would. Venom just has a warped sense of justice and morals, and he acts upon that. Doesn't necessarily make him "evil"; essentially in the same vain as Magneto.

That's about all I'll say, as a debate such as this can go on for ages, with various viewpoints and whatnot. That's my two cents, and I'm gonna take them back, because I'm a real cheap bastard :)

Goober...I like that. Thanks for labelling me there, bud.

acid Jun 26, 2006 12:31 AM

http://www.angelfire.com/comics/ulti...eddiebrock.JPG

Ultimate Eddie Brock.

Hardly the physical specimen that "616" Eddie is. However Ultimate Spider-man compared to Ultimate Venom;

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...e/Venom-sm.jpg

Perhaps Raimi is going to go the Ultimate way and make the Venom suit "fill out" Eddie's size, rather than the normal continuity of it just wrapping around Brock's already imposing frame.

Dizzy Jun 26, 2006 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
On a quick note, I just find it funny how DC movie trailers show for Marvel films and vice versa. Doesn't anyone else get a chuckle when they see this?

Well, in Spiderman 1, May Parker tells Peter that "He is not Superman". I think there was another quote from another DC superheroe, but I'm not sure...

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 26, 2006 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
The description of Venom as "evil Spider-Man" can be debated.

Hardly. They take it to such an extreme as to make Venom LARGER than Spider-Man, as well as lacking in color, as opposed to Peter Parker's patriotic tights.

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Venom is not the type of person who would just go on a random killing rampage as say, Carnage would.

That doesn't mean shit from fuck. Doctor Octopus doesn't go on random killing rampages - nor does Mysterio, The Shocker, The Trapster, Magneto, Doctor Doom, The Mole Man, The Jackal, The Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Jack O'Lantern, Rhino, Scorpion, The Vulture, Kraven The Hunter, The Chamelion, Morbius, The Tarantula, The Lizard, Puma, Tombstone, Crime Master, Hydroman, Sandman, Molten Man or Manwolf.

But they're all still villians, aren't they? The only one I can think of that would go on a killing spree is Sin Eater, and he blew his brains out years ago.

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Venom just has a warped sense of justice and morals, and he acts upon that. Doesn't necessarily make him "evil"; essentially in the same vain as Magneto.

Magneto does what he does because he has a moral and ethical grounding. Venom's sense of justice is just a cheap, lame writing ploy in an attempt to make him a character to sell as a protagonist.

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That's my two cents, and I'm gonna take them back, because I'm a real cheap bastard

You also should take back your last post - because it added up to nothing.

Arkhangelsk Jun 26, 2006 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dizzy
Well, in Spiderman 1, May Parker tells Peter that "He is not Superman". I think there was another quote from another DC superheroe, but I'm not sure...

And the whole "running down the street, pulling open front of shirt to reveal suit" thing in the first movie :). I couldn't believe how Superman-esque that was.

ShinBojack Jun 26, 2006 10:32 PM

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But they're all still villians, aren't they? The only one I can think of that would go on a killing spree is Sin Eater, and he blew his brains out years ago.



Magneto does what he does because he has a moral and ethical grounding. Venom's sense of justice is just a cheap, lame writing ploy in an attempt to make him a character to sell as a protagonist.



You also should take back your last post - because it added up to nothing.

Villians yes, but that wasn't your original point. You point was whether or not Venom was an "evil Spider-Man". Is he truly evil? Esecially considering the fact that, as you said, he's been portrayed as a protagonist many times? I wouldn't say that Venom is outright evil, just that he has a twisted sense of logic.

And I like how you seem to know what Marvel was aiming at when they created the Venom character, by using a "cheap, lame writing ploy". Did Stan Lee tell you that at some crazy late-night party or something? I'd say be grateful that you have access to insider Marvel Comics thought processes.

:boxing:

Oh well, I don't want this to become some kind of war of words, so I'll just wave the white flag up so that we can move forward on the subject of the film itself.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 26, 2006 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
Villians yes, but that wasn't your original point. You point was whether or not Venom was an "evil Spider-Man". Is he truly evil? Esecially considering the fact that, as you said, he's been portrayed as a protagonist many times? I wouldn't say that Venom is outright evil, just that he has a twisted sense of logic.

That train of thought hits several derailments, a boxcar and the business end of a pole barn when you realize that the level of writing given to Venom post-McFarlane years is utterly fucking trash in every single segment.

Don't believe me? Look at Marvel's crappy attempt at renigging the past by reinventing the character in Ultimate Spider-Man.

Yes, Venom is truely evil - be it because he's thrashing the shit out of everyone's favorite webspinner - or because he's the focus of fucking crappy writing.

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And I like how you seem to know what Marvel was aiming at when they created the Venom character, by using a "cheap, lame writing ploy".

I like how you atttempt a dismissive comment but yet don't make a discernable arguement or counterpoint against my previous statement. You just attempt cheap mockery because you're attempting to stack NOTHING against what I stated (Venom's color scheme, size differences)

Basically, you're trolling.

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Did Stan Lee tell you that at some crazy late-night party or something? I'd say be grateful that you have access to insider Marvel Comics thought processes.

I own stock in Marvel.

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Oh well, I don't want this to become some kind of war of words, so I'll just wave the white flag up so that we can move forward on the subject of the film itself.

So - you come here to make a point, argue it and then attempt to leave. So you just admited to trolling.

Alright, I'll bite - I'm flagging your post.

ShinBojack Jun 26, 2006 11:13 PM

LeHah, you apparently can't see that I'm taking this lightly, and see that debating this moot point is useless and does nothing for the benefit of this thread, so we should just leave it in the dirt and move on.

And I don't see how I'm trolling. Are you saying that I should instead continue to argue my point with you for as many pages as it can endure? That's just silly, and something that isn't needed for anyone here.

Apparently though, I've pissed you off in some way, and you want to continue by flagging me. I'm sure there are other posters out there who are in dire need of flagging much more than I do. But if you must, go ahead, if it'll cheer you up. I'll just move on.

Does anyone know if the Spider-Man 3 teaser will hit the web before the Superman debut? Most likely not, but there have been plenty of times where we get the occasional friendly leakage our way :edgarrock:

I'm just hoping that they don't repeat the mistake they made with the Spider-Man 2 online teaser premiere by having it on Flash format...ughn, that was just plain ugly.

Simo Jun 27, 2006 07:34 AM

Teaser has hit the web:
http://www.kristiandavid.com/spidey/

It's a little grainy but it's still decent quality. There's no Venom but you get a good shot of Sandman's powers and what looks like 2 different Goblins...

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 27, 2006 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ShinBojack
LeHah, you apparently can't see that I'm taking this lightly, and see that debating this moot point is useless and does nothing for the benefit of this thread, so we should just leave it in the dirt and move on.

That would've been a great idea - but you continue to keep writing in this post, so I can't really say you're taking your own medicine.

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And I don't see how I'm trolling. Are you saying that I should instead continue to argue my point with you for as many pages as it can endure? That's just silly, and something that isn't needed for anyone here.

1.) You're trolling by dismissing my earlier statements that were bolstered with evidence and facts with utter nonsense. And you're doing it repeatedly. Trolling.

2.) Yes, you should argue your point - but I don't think you even know how to do that. All you're saying is "no you're wrong!" without telling anyone why. Post something worthwhile, make someone think about what you posted instead of pissing nonsense and shitting banalities all over my fucking internet.

3.) It IS needed here. Good conversation is what's needed on the internet - because of people like you. Get the point? You're a terrible poster, you make baseless, unintelligent posts. You're taking up space and saying nothing in it.

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I'm sure there are other posters out there who are in dire need of flagging much more than I do.

There are - but we already know about VG and WolfDemon.

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I'll just move on.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, fag-tag.

T1249NTSCJ Jun 27, 2006 01:44 PM

Spider-Man 3 teaser trailer uploaded... :rock:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_p.../spider-man_3/

Freddy Krueger Jun 27, 2006 02:44 PM

Looks badass, can't wait!

SketchTheArtist Jun 27, 2006 04:40 PM

By the way Lehah, can't remember the actor's name, but the guy in your sig looks like he would've hold his side as Norman Osborn in a good Spider-Man adaptation.

Ayre Jun 27, 2006 04:57 PM

Holy Crap-My-Pants, that was awesome. I cannot for May 2007. ;.;

Meth Jun 27, 2006 05:08 PM

That was the SHIT! Goddamn that was awesome. And yeah, Lehah, the suit looks pretty black to me. I'd love to quote myself here for being correct when I said:

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
Lehah, when sony pics states "...Spider-Man wears a black suit in Spider-Man 3." it might just mean that he will wear a black suit.


Tomzilla Jun 27, 2006 06:38 PM

That was just amazing. It definitely gives an excellent reason of why we shouldn't die in the next year. :biggrin:

Anyone else notice that this thread is huge? The moment this movie draws nearer to theaters, we'll see an increase of activity. Quite the accomplishment for a movie that's less than a year away!

Shenlon Jun 27, 2006 07:34 PM

that was intense. Looks like when parker gets rid of the symbiot it will be the same way as he did in the oldy cartoon with the big bell.
Also, I think I'm wrong but did I just see the skinny dude from that 70's show o_0
Anyhow, I can't wait to see it. With four villains the movie might be longer than ever but I predict that venom won't show till the ending :/

Interrobang Jun 27, 2006 07:48 PM

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Also, I think I'm wrong but did I just see the skinny dude from that 70's show o_0

Have you been living under a rock?

Arkhangelsk Jun 27, 2006 08:18 PM

Now I am *so* excited about the movie. I got out of my 'Venom' phase many years ago, but the residual love for the character has made me all giddy over seeing it on the big screen. GIDDY. LIKE A LITTLE GIRL.

And I don't care if Venom is Marvel's whore (Because he is...that's what made me stop really bothering with the comics in the first place...), he's still an essential, integral part of Spider-Man's history and deserved the big-screen treatment, even without the 'proper' backstory. Even with Topher Grace as Brock I think I can handle it, by this point. At least he's not hideously ugly, as the original comic Brock was (not the later Fabio-esque Brock from the mini-series comics). Yes. Definitely looks good to me.

Did anyone notice what the GGII's outfit looked like? The glider is definitely different, and it appears that Harry is wearing something all black and a bit less armored (ie: Power-Rangery), more form-fitting compared to SM1's design:

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/1...eenshot5op.jpg

Thank God. But I didn't see a clear shot of the face...there is a possibility it's just a half-mask, though. I only see green on the top of the face.

acid Jun 27, 2006 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk
Now I am *so* excited about the movie. I got out of my 'Venom' phase many years ago, but the residual love for the character has made me all giddy over seeing it on the big screen. GIDDY. LIKE A LITTLE GIRL.

And I don't care if Venom is Marvel's whore (Because he is...that's what made me stop really bothering with the comics in the first place...), he's still an essential, integral part of Spider-Man's history and deserved the big-screen treatment, even without the 'proper' backstory. Even with Topher Grace as Brock I think I can handle it, by this point. At least he's not hideously ugly, as the original comic Brock was (not the later Fabio-esque Brock from the mini-series comics). Yes. Definitely looks good to me.

Wolverine is Marvel's whore. Venom is Marvel's drunk Saturday night last resort booty-call.

The Goblin Wore Tennis Shoes!

BIGWORM Jun 27, 2006 09:21 PM

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2...y3gg3ur.th.jpg

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2...3gg23nz.th.jpg

A couple of shots of the Goblin or Goblins!!

Dee Jun 27, 2006 10:29 PM

Okay, I want to make this clear, is the Spiderman in the black outfit not Spiderman but some villain? When I read my newspaper this morning they posted a picture of black suited Spiderman and in the caption, "Spiderman sports a darker look. (something about coming out next year)."

I clearly don't read Spiderman. :(

And the trailer, although really awesome, just added more dust to my confusion.

Arkhangelsk Jun 27, 2006 10:54 PM

Spiderman in the black outfit is still Spiderman, but the symbiote that is the black suit screws with his mind and brings out the darker side of Parker, ie: he acts more agressive and does things that Peter would otherwise be too meek to do. He's more violent in his crime-fighting, and the suit takes Parker's body 'out for a drive' when he's asleep, with the symbiote in complete control of his actions.

Venom on Wikipedia might clear a few things up.

Tama8-chan Jun 27, 2006 11:10 PM

So the black symbiote takes over Parker, who then fights it off, and then it mergers with Brock, who THEN becomes Venom?

ShinBojack Jun 27, 2006 11:14 PM

To me, Harry looks like he received some inspiration from Sam Fisher :)

And Topher looks like he's got some lazy-eye action going on in his shot.

A very good teaser overall, especially considering the fact that the trailer was released so early on in the post-production process.

Don't mean to be a downer for anyone, but perhaps Mary Jane will be offed in this movie, since from what I can recall, Kirsten Dunst is only contracted for 3 movies, and I don't think she has been renewed for the 2nd trilogy.

And is that really Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy? I can hardly recognize her...looks more like Elisha Cuthbert from the angle she was shown.

The early SFX looked better than I had thought they were; Sandman looked impressive, though fairly Mummy-like. There is still work to be done on the symbiote though, as it doesn't seem to be flowing as smoothly as it could (add in a few more frames of animation on there and it should look fine).

Protom@nNeo Jun 28, 2006 12:52 AM

I love the shot of Mary Jane lying on the ground with engagement ring next to her. ::Parker pushes her to the floor:: "You want Harry you can have him!"

Hantei Jun 28, 2006 01:48 AM

Aw man that trailer was sweet! Ahh, just I don't know how to describe my excitment for the movie! Just seeing the symbiote crawling over Spidey, heh, nice to see the speculations to be true. I wonder if they'll end off the movie with the symbiote going to Brock, leaving the 4th movie (assuming that 3 isn't the last) for Venom. Just a little less than a year!

This teaser is being shown during the previews for Superman Returns right? Man, I gotta go check out Superman a lot sooner than I had planned.
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And is that really Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy? I can hardly recognize her...looks more like Elisha Cuthbert from the angle she was shown.

Hahaha, I noticed that too. I'm guessing it'll be Green Goblin Harry that'll do her in, this is assuming that they follow the comics path of killing her.

WraithTwo Jun 28, 2006 02:08 AM

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Aw man that trailer was sweet! Ahh, just I don't know how to describe my excitment for the movie! Just seeing the symbiote crawling over Spidey, heh, nice to see the speculations to be true. I wonder if they'll end off the movie with the symbiote going to Brock, leaving the 4th movie (assuming that 3 isn't the last) for Venom. Just a little less than a year!

This teaser is being shown during the previews for Superman Returns right? Man, I gotta go check out Superman a lot sooner than I had planned.

Hahaha, I noticed that too. I'm guessing it'll be Green Goblin Harry that'll do her in, this is assuming that they follow the comics path of killing her.

Well, in the comics, Norman offed Gwen, and while its very possible that Harry will do the same in this film, I wouldn't consider it to be the only possibility. I wouldn't be too surprised if Brock killed her, or if MJ died instead.

- WraithTwo -

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 28, 2006 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by acid
Wolverine is Marvel's whore. Venom is Marvel's drunk Saturday night last resort booty-call.

Quote of the year.

As for Gwen meeting her fate in this movie - who gives a shit? If they're introducing her this late in the game, its as a moral quandry between Parker's love for MJ or some new bird that enters the scene.

Shenlon Jun 28, 2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Interrobang
Have you been living under a rock?

In a way. . .
There always has to be a person thats behind in the entertainment news. This time its me O_O

Hantei Jun 29, 2006 04:55 AM

Off-topic to the 3rd movie but still related to Spider-man.

LOL, this is hilarious! Japanese Spider-man, from 1978! Man, the show is so ridiculus! Haha, and the music is pretty good, but so retro too. SUPAIDAA SUTINGU (Spider String)!

Full Episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDh__...rch=spider-man

Unknown 7min Clip (a Robot!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Oak...rch=spider-man

*sorry if this was mentioned before!

Zip Jun 29, 2006 05:37 AM

funny lol. looked better then that old american one though :P

Vestin Jun 29, 2006 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hantei
Off-topic to the 3rd movie but still related to Spider-man.

LOL, this is hilarious! Japanese Spider-man, from 1978! Man, the show is so ridiculus! Haha, and the music is pretty good, but so retro too. SUPAIDAA SUTINGU (Spider String)!

Full Episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDh__...rch=spider-man

Intense. It's like a perfect blend between Spiderman and Power Rangers. Of course, Power Rangers weren't even a concept, back then.

Megalith Jun 29, 2006 09:52 AM

I already know that Gwen Stacy's death is what causes Peter to tear off the symbiote in the bell tower.

Holy shit, I got banned from another thread.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jun 29, 2006 10:00 AM

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I already know that Gwen Stacy's death is what causes Peter to tear off the symbiote in the bell tower.

Hey - remember all those crappy, inane posts that got you banned from the Superman Returns thread?

I want to see you get tossed out of here for the same shit, so keep up the good work, soldier!

KCJ506 Jul 5, 2006 02:55 PM

HUGE spoiler pics. Click at your own risk.

http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=7050

http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryList...l=3a&PageNum=1

rockthepartay Jul 5, 2006 04:25 PM

That would be quite a swerve, but I'm pretty sure those pictures are misleading.

ShinBojack Jul 6, 2006 01:39 AM

Yea, I've read about that particular plot twist a while back, and I wasn't too psyched about it.

I suppose it does give Sandman some meaning to be involved in this movie, but is it really necessary? Yes, it's a way to tie him in with Spidey's life (albeit in an obviously negative way), but to me it just seems a bit forced.

Though I can't see any other reason why all 3 of those characters would be in the same scene, so I guess that's the only way it can be worked out.

T1249NTSCJ Jul 14, 2006 03:21 PM

Spidey 3 lenticular poster. :rock:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5...3poster8tw.jpg

xman25 Jul 14, 2006 11:22 PM

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Simo Jul 15, 2006 12:48 AM

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T1249NTSCJ, the picture you posted has a little 'x' in its place. Is this the poster you were talking about:



xman25

Yeah it's the one. SHH! doesn't allow hotlinking which is why the image didn't show up.

The official site has a Quicktime movie of the poster to show off the lenticular effect of the poster:
http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/bu...eleases/17.php

T1249NTSCJ Jul 15, 2006 07:43 AM

Thanks for that Simo. You know come to think of it, the spider design on the black costume there looks very similar to the spider used during his wrestling match in Spidey 1. Art department is to blame. :doh:

xman25 Jul 21, 2006 03:38 PM

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Kairi Li Jul 21, 2006 03:48 PM

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New poster:


xman25

Nice! Simple and iconic. Gets the point across.

Vampiro Jul 21, 2006 04:24 PM

The suit looks a little off-centre or something... still a pretty decent poster though.

soulsteelgray Jul 22, 2006 10:10 PM

Because spoiler virgins might not like seeing this:
You want Venom? It's not quite Venom, but it's certainly a huge-ass tease for 'im.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/s...aper2_800.html
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/s...per2_1024.html
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/s...per2_1280.html

And then as if that wasn't enough...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=15621

Quote:

The footage ended with Topher's Eddie Brock feeling something black and gooey hit his hand--obviously the symbiote--and it cuts to the very first image of the computerized Venom, who looks exactly like he does in the comic book if rendered in 3D, looking straight into the camera with his jaws wide open and drooling. If you're a fan of Venom, you're not likely to be disappointed.


And then there's this image.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6...dey2xw6.th.jpg

T1249NTSCJ Jul 23, 2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Because spoiler virgins might not like seeing this:


And then there's this image.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6...dey2xw6.th.jpg


That last image, is that Sandman? :eyebrow:

kenkwan86 Jul 23, 2006 01:07 AM

Hey, i thought that the venom part is just a minor part in the new movie? y is there so much hype on it?

Freddy Krueger Jul 23, 2006 02:25 AM

No one ever said it was a small part, people are just assuming so since it would be a lot to fit in 1 movie.

Vampiro Jul 23, 2006 03:38 AM

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That last image, is that Sandman?
Yeah, looks like he's protecting his daughter too. Which is supposed to be pretty key.

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y is there so much hype on it?
Because it's VENOM. Even if his part was eighteen seconds in total, there would still be tons of hype.

Arkhangelsk Jul 23, 2006 03:50 AM

The pointy teeth!
It's...interesting. Glad to hear that Venom will look like Venom, and not some odd 'just-for-the-movie-version' revamp. Of course, I won't put too much stock in anything yet.

I will still be disappointed if they make Venom have anything more than a small cameo within the last 20 minutes of the movie. I'm a huge Venom fangirl, but that doesn't mean I want them to stink up the film by cramming too much into one film. They better leave the ending wide open for a Venom vs. Spidey-centered sequel :annoyed:...

Vampiro Jul 23, 2006 04:16 AM

Quote:

I will still be disappointed if they make Venom have anything more than a small cameo within the last 20 minutes of the movie. I'm a huge Venom fangirl, but that doesn't mean I want them to stink up the film by cramming too much into one film. They better leave the ending wide open for a Venom vs. Spidey-centered sequel
Truth. Really, all I want is Venom to take a chunk out of Sandman, gain some notoriety, and then end off with, not a cliff-hanger, but a definite build-up to a sweet, epic battle between him and Spider-man in the next film. And that's most likely what will happen. I mean, come on, you can't have Harry's Green Goblin and Sandman AND Venom. It just doesn't work.

However, I would like a more toned down Venom. When it comes to appearance I mean. It would be a lot more fitting for the new Brock. He doesn't have to be a hulking figure for it to work, and it would probably be more "believable" if he wasn't so muscular.

makura Jul 23, 2006 05:00 AM

Here are some pics of the other posters (from AICN)

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4...yposterqa7.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/1...jposterik6.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7...nposterov3.jpg

And a leaked animated GIF of venom transforming (camera phone quality)

T1249NTSCJ Jul 23, 2006 05:53 AM

Darnit, I can't make out anything on that .gif. Looks like he is on all fours. :lolsign:

Zip Jul 23, 2006 07:00 AM

looks like he falls down on all four and then the camera zooms into his mouth

soulsteelgray Jul 23, 2006 11:29 AM

Bryce Dallas Howard somehow gives me the creeps as Gwen. I'm not sure why.

Looks like it's off to find a better-quality image of Venom.

Mint Jul 23, 2006 11:57 AM

This movie looks really awesome! The graphics too, and woohoo...Venom!

Vampiro Jul 23, 2006 11:43 PM

Goddamnit, why'd the gif have to be such shitty quality. Hopefully an official teaser will be released soon, because it looks quite awesome.

Vestin Jul 23, 2006 11:57 PM

God I hope there's not a Carnage. I really, really hope there isn't.

Venom is kinda iffy. I thought in the comics Spiderman never really beats Venom, and Carnage came along to make them join together. I've never really read the comics, either though, and heard this all by word of mouth.

Cyrus XIII Jul 24, 2006 01:07 PM

Sure, Sandman, Venom, Green Goblin II, Carnage and then Green Goblin I, risen from the dead ... Doc Ock and Kraven will show up in the Cliffhanger. ;)

No seriously, even though I appreciated the one-supervillain-at-a-time approach in the first two movies, I'm confident Raimi and his crew can make this work. The groundwork for the new Goblin is already there, Venom's powers are more or less a byproduct of some changes Spidey goes through, so there's really just the Sandman where they have to go at lengths to explore an origin. And weaving in enough screen time for their civil backgrounds shouldn't be too hard, right?

RYU Jul 24, 2006 05:47 PM

Spiderman 3 : Teaser 2 (from Comic-con) with (camera quality)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/bbpfb3
(you need flv player)
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqqQ0F4OEys(closer)

Freddy Krueger Jul 24, 2006 06:17 PM

Damn so hard to even see anything, but the music was good =]

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 25, 2006 08:01 AM

FROM IMDB

Fans attending the Comic-Con convention in San Diego Saturday were treated to a look at footage from next summer's Spider-Man 3 that included both animated and live-action scenes. They also were able to talk to Director Sam Raimi, producer Laura Ziskin and stars Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst, Topher Grace, Bryce Dallas Howard and Thomas Haden Church. Maguire's suggestion that Spider-Man 3 will not become the final installment in the franchise was greeted with thunderous applause. "We're going to leave it open-ended," he said, "If there are stories worth telling, then we'll tell them."

Interrobang Jul 25, 2006 09:46 AM

I thought we already knew that? The big question was whether it'll have the same guys, not the possiblity of other Spider-Man movies.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 25, 2006 10:01 AM

Well, the fact that Toby said it denotes that he'd be involved.

Cyrus XIII Jul 26, 2006 07:38 AM

I do hope though, that this would go for both, cast and crew. The Lethal Weapon series for example would not have aged nearly as well as it did, if Donner and Silver had left at some point.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 26, 2006 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII
I do hope though, that this would go for both, cast and crew. The Lethal Weapon series for example would not have aged nearly as well as it did, if Donner and Silver had left at some point.

There is an ernest and quite correct arguement to be made that the third and fourth installments of the Lethal Weapon series are pale, sickly follow-ups to two excellent movies. (I believe LW4 bombed terribly and was lambasted by critics)

Cyrus XIII Jul 26, 2006 08:25 AM

I'd agree to some point about the declining quality of these sequels but I'd still rather watch LW4 three times in a row than ever revisit Terminator 3.

Freddy Krueger Jul 26, 2006 11:16 AM

Sorry for adding to off-topic but I LOVED LW4, Rock and Pesci together was hillarious =]

T1249NTSCJ Jul 26, 2006 11:21 AM

With all the stereotypes going on in LW4, I couldn't enjoy the flick on any level whatsoever. As for Terminator, I like to think that it ended then and there at T2.

In other news, Spidey 3 is a GO at IMAX. ;-)

http://superherohype.com/news/spider...ws.php?id=4564

BIGWORM Jul 27, 2006 06:33 AM

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8...1611388mf2.jpg
Wow.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 07:47 AM

I saw that poster on IMDB. I'm somewhat in disbelief that it's either legit (though I'm also too damned lazy to check on the offical Spider-Man site) or anything from the movie it's, given that I've seen blind plumbers create better photoshop effects than that.

That awful, crappy "Superman" pose that was supposedly a Spider-Man 3 poster only enforces this idea. I'll chalk it up as an overenthusiastic fanboy with a complete lack of artistic talent.

And in other news - Zatoichi is fucking awesome, Worm.

Interrobang Jul 27, 2006 08:23 AM

That's from a wallpaper on the official site. It's legit, despite the terrible photoshopping. The tendrils look like they're in a different dimension than the face.

BIGWORM Jul 27, 2006 08:24 AM

I pulled that from the Film Force section at IGN (or whatever it is). There's another of Emo Peter pulling his jacket to unveil the Venom suit. Did the Symbiote ever have a green tint to it? That throws me off, because in the animated series it had a purple tint to it. I'm glad other people recognize Zatoichi besides myself. Now that you guys are talking Photoshop, I must admit the blending of the tendrils to the face is total ass.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGWORM
There's another of Emo Peter pulling his jacket to unveil the Venom suit.

Yeah, thats the poster I was refering to with "that awful, crappy "Superman" pose".

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Did the Symbiote ever have a green tint to it? That throws me off, because in the animated series it had a purple tint to it.

I think thats simply a matter of artistic preference. Erik Larson didn't draw Venom exactly like Todd McFarlane, nor did Mark Bagley draw him like either of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGWORM
I'm glad other people recognize Zatoichi besides myself.

I've only seen The Blind Swordsman's Revenge on IFC, which was fantastic. I want to see the "new" Zatoichi movie - it came out two years ago?

BIGWORM Jul 27, 2006 08:44 AM

Zatoichi is 2003

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363226/

Meth Jul 27, 2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGWORM

And this has to do with Spider-man how?

What's all this talk of a "crappy" photoshop job. I'd challenge anybody here to do better. Make a pic of yoruself with the Venom suit oozing over yourself and try to do a better job. Also, that entire pic has a cool green color over it. The green could just be a result of the lighting. In the first teaser trailer the suit looks pretty black and slimy as it jumps onto Pete's hand. Or they could be taking some artistic liscense and giving Venom a dark green tint. As I recall, the suit is kinda "what you make of it," a jagged reflection of your inner self.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
And this has to do with Spider-man how?

Don't troll.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
What's all this talk of a "crappy" photoshop job. I'd challenge anybody here to do better.

http://www.frazettaartgallery.com/
http://www.davedorman.com/
http://www.drewstruzan.com/

BIGWORM Jul 27, 2006 02:15 PM

Thank you. You'd figure with the budget that Spider-man 3 has, they'd do a better job with the photoshops.

Freddy Krueger Jul 27, 2006 02:25 PM

Well Raimi said himself they were unsure to show this stuff cause it is UNFINISHED, they still have some work to do with venom and some other scenes shown at comic-con '06

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Thank you. You'd figure with the budget that Spider-man 3 has, they'd do a better job with the photoshops.

Why photoshop? Not that I need ANOTHER Alex Ross poster, but theres so much better talent out there than yet another 20 something on a Mac.

Interrobang Jul 27, 2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
I'd challenge anybody here to do better.

This argument has been anally raped by the Internet so many times that it's become meaningless. You could throw a cereal box in there.

It's criticism. Criticism does not require capability. You don't ask Roger Ebert to make the best film ever to make his criticism of movies valid.

Meth Jul 27, 2006 04:54 PM

None of those guys use PS to create photorealistic images. They're all traditional painters. So you're saying you want Alex Ross to do the movie posters in traditional media? From what I remember, all of the Spidey posters have had a photorealistic style to them. They're just keeping the same style.

Interrobang, yeah yeah, whatever. Everybody's allowed to be a critic whether they have any skills at all or know what the hell they're talking about. I'm just trying to get the point across that making something like that in PS is not just 20mins of work that can be pulled off by a no talent hack. It's not like the guy took a stock photo of Topher Grace and hit it with the "symbiote brush."

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
None of those guys use PS to create photorealistic images. They're all traditional painters. So you're saying you want Alex Ross to do the movie posters in traditional media? From what I remember, all of the Spidey posters have had a photorealistic style to them. They're just keeping the same style.

1.) You said you challenged anyone to do better - but not using what medium.

2.) I can EASILY argue that Frazetta is more photorealistic than anything you can dish up. His material is at the height of movement - all you're looking for are cheap CG gimicks and lens flair.

Meth Jul 27, 2006 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
1.) You said you challenged anyone to do better - but not using what medium.

my bad then, I should've specified PS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
2.) I can EASILY argue that Frazetta is more photorealistic than anything you can dish up. His material is at the height of movement - all you're looking for are cheap CG gimicks and lens flair.

What do you mean "all i'm looking for are cheap CG gimick and lens flair?" Where did I give that impression at all? I'm just saying stick with the established style. There's no denying that Frazetta is a badass at what he does, but his style doesn't match what's already been established.

And as far as not being able to find anything more photorealistic than Frazetta's work.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...iratesword.jpg
all digital.

and of course, http://www.dylancolestudio.com/index2.html, his matte paintings are way more photorealistic than anything Frazetta ever did.

By the way, it's lens flare, not flair... since I know you're a stickler about stuff like that.

Double Post:
http://ic3.deviantart.com/fs4/p/2005...d366dd06bd.jpg One more example of photorealism better than Frazetta.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Jul 27, 2006 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
all digital.

http://www.biggrnyu.com/frank_frazet...stroyerbmp.jpg

All by hand

Interrobang Jul 27, 2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling
I'm just trying to get the point across that making something like that in PS is not just 20mins of work that can be pulled off by a no talent hack. It's not like the guy took a stock photo of Topher Grace and hit it with the "symbiote brush."

Yes, some effort went into this shit, but it doesn't change the fact that it's shit. The symboite doesn't look like it's in the same layer as Topher, especially around the face area. It lacks depth and I think the different lighting throws me off.

Meth Jul 27, 2006 09:19 PM

That painting is badass.

LeHah, maybe we should just make a thread devoted to the most badass movie posters.

Too bad John Singer Sargent isn't around to blow everybody's mind making the most badass movie poster character portraits ever.

Back to Spidey though... have they wrapped shooting and moved to post production?

BIGWORM Jul 27, 2006 11:55 PM

according to IMDB as of the 5th, they're in post-production.

ShinBojack Jul 28, 2006 12:15 AM

I'll have to agree with everyone about the bad quality of the official Venom poster. Funny thing is I had never even paid attention to the bad overlapping job prior to reading the posts on here.

Thanks for opening my eyes...I think.

I saw over at the superherohype forums, that they were discussing how in that picture, you can faintly make out the emblem on Venom's chest. One of the guys there brightened the pic to make it easier to spot:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/923...1611388zw4.jpg

Certainly couldn't notice that on my dark-ass monitor, so it's interesting to see. I wonder if it's just going to stay as that shade of silver, or if they'll go with the traditional white for the emblem. I couldn't make out if they showed the emblem during the Comic-Con footage, so please correct me if it is white after all.

And just for kicks, here's an equally bad PS job of Carnage. Ugly, but certainly no better than the amateur quality from the poster :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...geSymbiote.gif

makura Jul 28, 2006 09:14 PM

Has anyone been reading on any of the plot spoilers about Sandman?

Spoiler:
There are images on the net with Sandman holding Uncle Ben's arm and the robber guy in the background (found here)
Every site is saying that Sandman is the real killer of Uncle Ben (wasn't in the comics.)
Does anyone else thinks that Sam Raimi is making this change?
My guess is that Sandman was there at the scene, but was probably misunderstood by Peter that he's the real killer, possibly influenced by the symbiote.

Or maybe the robber and Sandman were working together.. Damn I need to stop looking at spoilers..

evergreen Sep 18, 2006 05:45 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P40U07CM2VY

It appears to be test footage for Venom. Even if it might not be for the film, it could be related to Treyarch's video game adaptation, and they do collaborate closely with the filmmakers. If so, then consider this the second look at Venom.

Soldier Sep 18, 2006 06:27 PM

I doubt it. The eyes are too cartoonish, and the muscles are simply too out of proportion. And don't get me started on the ass. :/

Mucknuggle Sep 18, 2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I doubt it. The eyes are too cartoonish, and the muscles are simply too out of proportion. And don't get me started on the ass. :/

Venom has always been huge and out of proportion like that.

T1249NTSCJ Sep 18, 2006 08:04 PM

The emblem is way too small, the eyes look like corn chips and this reminds me of Superman Returns the videogame. :argue:

avanent Sep 19, 2006 07:44 AM

Mr Sandman... hmmm....

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
The emblem is way too small, the eyes look like corn chips and this reminds me of Superman Returns the videogame. :argue:

Yes, it looks way too animated. It'd be great for a cgi animated feature... but not a live action one.

Shenlon Sep 20, 2006 09:20 AM

It looks like they almost used the same body structure as the hulk's. I can't wait to see the gif's people come up with =p
And its not that his mouth is too big, his jaw is huge, its popped out like bubba's from forest gump.
Whatever the final result will be I think we can expect a different look for venom so that it will fit with the movie. Just like they did with the green goblin.

Hantei Nov 8, 2006 12:14 AM

Apparently these are character designs for the game. Venom's design definitely looks like it'd be from the movie (the webbing feature on the outfit, gives it away), while the Harry GG seems out of place. I mean the snowboarder look makes he appear like more of a common punk/thug, than the menacing Goblin.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2856/venomthwk6.jpghttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...blin1thti6.jpghttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8...ndmanthmn3.jpg

http://filmick.blogspot.com/2006/11/...r-designs.html

Meth Nov 8, 2006 12:24 AM

Wasn't there supposed to be a new trailer out soon? I thought they played one the other night during RW/RR The Duel, but I didn't watch it.

Hantei Nov 8, 2006 12:28 AM

Oh yea, I read that there's going to be a new trailer shown during the previews for Casino Royale.

Shenlon Nov 8, 2006 07:05 AM

i thought it was suppose to air on comedy central after south park for some odd reason.
Saw the commercial for it yesterday

Zip Nov 8, 2006 08:29 AM

lol, they have commercials for trailers?

Acro-nym Nov 8, 2006 08:46 AM

I've heard that Harry isn't supposed to be a Goblin in this film, hence why his costume isn't like his father's.

Meth Nov 8, 2006 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip
lol, they have commercials for trailers?

I was just thinking about how ridiculous this is, but it's true. That's how much we're obsessed with Spider-Man.

Balcony Heckler Nov 8, 2006 01:12 PM

personally, I can't wait to see Venom, but I hope they do come out with Carnage

Shenlon Nov 8, 2006 01:23 PM

its not only comedy central and mtv that are airing the trailer, it seems everyone is making a huge deal of it

The television networks airing the new trailer include BET, CBS, Comedy Central, Logo, MTV, MTV2, Spike TV and VH1, with each supporting the event with custom promotions both on-air and online. A total of 14 online destinations from Viacom's networks are supporting the airing of the trailer, including AddictingGames.com, AddictingClips.com, BET.com, MTV.com, IFILM.com, Nick.com, ComedyCentral.com, GameTrailers.com, LOGOonline.com, Neopets.com, SpikeTV.com, The-N.com, VH1.com, and Xfire.com.
http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=17435
do I smell venom appearance o-o

heman Nov 8, 2006 01:33 PM

I think Spiderman is the best franchise yet...so hopefully they will continue the great movies!

Erisu Kimu Nov 8, 2006 02:36 PM

Sandman and Venom are cool, but I was never a big fan of either.

I want to see Mysterio and the Lizard more than any other villains. It's great that they already covered the Green Goblin and Dr. Octopus in the first two movies, but come on, do something with Dr. Connors already.

aznxinvazn Nov 8, 2006 05:39 PM

The trailer comes out tomorrow. I'll probably check it out on Apple's homepage.

Shenlon Nov 9, 2006 10:06 PM

just saw the new trailer and it looked badass. It should be up shortly on http://www.ifilm.com/

no sign of venom but they did reveal more of the story but most of us already knew what it was
Spoiler:
his uncle's killer is sandman


EDIT: http://www.ifilm.com/presents/spiderman3

KCJ506 Nov 9, 2006 10:06 PM

Trailers up! It may not work for some people. It took me a couple of tries.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2783985/collection/17415

EDIT: Dammit you beat me to it.

Soldier Nov 9, 2006 10:14 PM

I just saw it on Comedy Central. There is no doubt whatsoever that this will be the absolute best movie of 2007. Black Spidey is just fantastic.

Also, this will likely be the same trailer included on the Taladega Nights BR movie included with PS3.

Freddy Krueger Nov 9, 2006 10:22 PM

Damn that was awesome, Black spidy looks huge too. Too bad no Venom shots but man this rocked.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Nov 9, 2006 10:22 PM

A little overblown but still pretty good. I'm about as interested in the whole Venom aspect of the story as I am watching bathroom paint peel but I'll run with it after the excellence that was the last Spider-Man installment.

Harry Osborne may prove disappointing though. I don't think they have the character's best moments in mind from what this trailer has shown.

T1249NTSCJ Nov 9, 2006 11:15 PM

I guess I fall in the category of difficult to please but after watching the trailer, the CGI for the symbiote actually turned out worse than before. I suppose it's a matter of budget, that's what happens when you put not 1, 2 or 3 but 4 villians in the flick. However still look forward as to how Venom will turn out. :eyebrow:

Acro-nym Nov 9, 2006 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
I guess I fall in the category of difficult to please but after watching the trailer, the CGI for the symbiote actually turned out worse than before. I suppose it's a matter of budget, that's what happens when you put not 1, 2 or 3 but 4 villians in the flick. However still look forward as to how Venom will turn out. :eyebrow:

How are there four villains? Even if Venom has a partial role, that still only makes three.

Soldier Nov 9, 2006 11:35 PM

I think Raimi hinted there was a "secret fourth villain". Rumor has it

Spoiler:
that Bruce Cambell plays Mysterio. I wouldn't pass this up, as Mysterio made an appearance in Ultimate Spiderman as a "fake villain" (no powers)

acid Nov 10, 2006 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah
A little overblown but still pretty good. I'm about as interested in the whole Venom aspect of the story as I am watching bathroom paint peel but I'll run with it after the excellence that was the last Spider-Man installment.

Quoted for truth. Venom is the part of this movie that I am actually dreading. No, scratch that. Venom fans are the part that I am actually dreading.

Also if the rumors are any indication, Venom isn't going to show up until the very very end. Fans hoping for a Venom/Spidey/Goblin/Sandman slugfest may be disappointed. I on the other hand would be ecstatic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I think Raimi hinted there was a "secret fourth villain". Rumor has it

Spoiler:
that Bruce Cambell plays Mysterio. I wouldn't pass this up, as Mysterio made an appearance in Ultimate Spiderman as a "fake villain" (no powers)

Raimi has said he might be Quentin Beck. Much they same way Connors was in the first 2, Dr. Stromm was in the first one, and John Jameson came back from space, it will be little more than a quick nod and a wink to the fans. Perhaps they go see a show for "Mysterio - Master of Illusion" before Sandman fucks it up or something. Don't count on old fish bowl duking it out with webhead in Time Square.

Ayos Nov 10, 2006 01:38 AM

Bruce Campbell? I'd pay to see that. Well, I'd pay to see this movie anyway, but I'd be even happier to pay if Bruce Campbell has a speaking role.

JasonTerminator Nov 10, 2006 02:08 AM

Bruce has been cast as a restaurant maitre'd, so unless he also happens to be Mysterio, I don't think that's happening.

The movie looks great, and I'm really hoping they save Venom for the fourth film, save a minor snippet or introduction at the end of #3, since it already has enough to fit in.

EDIT: Ayos, Bruce has had speaking roles in both Spidey 1 and 2, and this will likely also include a few lines, usually the best in the whole movie if the past is any indication.

Meth Nov 10, 2006 02:42 AM

That looked so badass (the trailer). That black suit sure does make him a badass.

EDIT: Thanks WolfDemon, I'm a retard for not reading! ;)

WolfDemon Nov 10, 2006 03:05 AM

That's Venom from the game, supposedly. It was posted on the last page.

Sparhawke Nov 10, 2006 03:17 AM

high def downable versions of the trailer:
http://www.movie-list.com/trailers.php?id=spider-man3
sweet trailer.

Hantei Nov 10, 2006 04:21 AM

Aw man, looks great! But I really don't like Harry's outfit, I guess it's really more the glider design than anything (heh, though it's kinda neat if it think of it as a hoverboard). Also, I love how they showed more of scenes of Peter's evil side as he's gradually getting consumed by the suit.

I, as well, believe that Venom will only appear at the end of the movie. Opening up the fourth film to be a full out Venom fest, which seems to be the most logical approach.

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1249NTSCJ
I guess I fall in the category of difficult to please but after watching the trailer, the CGI for the symbiote actually turned out worse than before.

I agree the CGI doesn't look very good at all (well, for the new shown scenes anyway). Then again, there's still half a year to go before the film's release. So I'm guessing they're still polishing up the CGI in post.

KCJ506 Nov 10, 2006 08:50 PM

Possible hints of Venom?




Shenlon Nov 10, 2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506

you forgot
Spoiler:
the last scene in the trailer where peter is getting choked

KCJ506 Nov 10, 2006 09:57 PM

You mean this part?


Shenlon Nov 10, 2006 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506

yep thats the one
he kinda looks like a little person, specially cause of his arm

Arkhangelsk Nov 10, 2006 11:44 PM

Sorry for being a "Venom fan," but I like how that aspect of the story is starting to turn out. However, I don't want Venom to be in this movie, with all the other stuff that's going on. If he's just shown at the end, that's enough for me.

The CG looks crap, as many people have said. I really hope they polish it up quite a bit.

Dalkaen Nov 10, 2006 11:48 PM

I didn't have a problem with the CG. :( You kids and your fancy high tech computer graphic machines...

KCJ506 Nov 11, 2006 07:39 AM

What if Sandman isn't really the villian? What if the real villain is actually the black suit and Sandman is just a victim of it?

Spoiler:
Everyone is already saying that Flint Marko as Ben Parker's murderer is a leap in logic, and I also agree. Obviously, Raimi is setting up the Sandman/Spider-Man conflict as a case of mistaken identity, whereby Peter Parker will feel even more guilty for abusing his powers to exact vengeance on the wrong man.

If you watch the trailers closely, you'll notice that Flint Marko is holding up shopping bags before he gets confronted by Spidey in the black suit. What kind of villian runs around errands, no doubt for his family? Also, the teaser poster featuring Sandman is of him protecting a child holding a stuffed animal. So he is obviously not a "villian" in this picture.

And lastly, the final shot of the Sandman in the Theatrical trailer is of him reaching out for help as he gets drowned in a torrent of water. Obviously, we are meant to sympathize with the Sandman character, and his persecution at the hands of the Black Suit serves further to villianize the symbiote and Peter's actions while under the influence of his new alien powers.

Ayos Nov 11, 2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonTerminator
Bruce has had speaking roles in both Spidey 1 and 2, and this will likely also include a few lines, usually the best in the whole movie if the past is any indication.

Yeah, wasn't he the usher at MJ's play in #2, and the ring announcer or something in #1? Either way, I hope to see quite a bit of him in #3. :)

Tomzilla Nov 11, 2006 03:26 PM

Odds are the CGI scenes will be polished up, but for the most part, I was impressed. The trailer as a whole blew me away. I absolutely love the first two movies. I felt Raimi did an excellent job on both and will succeed once again with the third installment.

I do hope they remove the Godzilla sound effect from Sandman. But it's likely a temporary stand-in before a new sound could be conceived.

KCJ506 Nov 12, 2006 01:20 PM

Something tells me that Venom was supposed to be in this trailer, just something tingly in the back of my head, what could it be...














Trailer UNCUT:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=78ZX0YP1

Sepharite Nov 12, 2006 01:50 PM

That footage was already in the ComicCon trailer but damn, it looks better than camera phone footage. >.> Great find, KCJ506!

Wall Feces Nov 12, 2006 03:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5l9fEBs4m8

Comic-con trailer on YouTube. I think it's better than any trailer we've seen thus far. The music is fucking fantastic!

T1249NTSCJ Nov 12, 2006 03:36 PM

Certainy a nice find, looks as if the image of Venom from the videogame is a spot on match with the trailer posted above.

Arkhangelsk Nov 12, 2006 03:45 PM

HOT.
I know that it's Topher and everything, so they can't bulk Venom up too much, but he looks a little lithe in that shot ;). Whatever, I think the CG looks best in that sequence.

Kairi Li Nov 12, 2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprouticus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5l9fEBs4m8

Comic-con trailer on YouTube. I think it's better than any trailer we've seen thus far. The music is fucking fantastic!


You are GOD for findin this link, along with the guy who found the video. Anyone knows where to download this trailer?

KCJ506 Nov 13, 2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kairi Li
You are GOD for findin this link, along with the guy who found the video. Anyone knows where to download this trailer?

http://www.internapse.com/

Better save it fast, Sony is ordering it removed.


Superherohype boards are asking people that they not post pics and links but they can talk about it.

AICN removed theirs. Youtube might be next

Kairi Li Nov 13, 2006 03:16 AM

Thanks! I got it.

Chie Nov 13, 2006 09:45 AM

I was able to catch the trailer and it looked very interesting. Alot of the cgi is obviously under construction sort of speak, but it is enough to keep me waiting till the movie comes out.

Cirno Nov 13, 2006 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506
http://www.internapse.com/

AICN removed theirs. Youtube might be next

Youtube removed their's earlier this morning.

Spider-Man 3 is shaping up to be one of my must-see movies of next year (along with Transformers). Actually, it's one of those movies that I've always just felt obligated to go see, mostly because there's nothing else to do during the summer (besides hunt for internships, work more hours).

At first I figured that having three villains would clutter the film, but since Spidey's got the black costume this time, I think it's pretty fine.

xman25 Nov 22, 2006 01:18 PM

2 Attachment(s)
New Spider-Man 3 posters:

xman25

ApOcaLyPSe_1985 Nov 22, 2006 06:48 PM

Is this just a teaser or is symbiot spidey seriously going to be just a black paintover? As far as I remember from the Amazing Spiderman comics he had a different logo and ofcourse, a different suit. That was a long time ago but i'm pretty sure about it.

soulsteelgray Nov 22, 2006 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApOcaLyPSe_1985
Is this just a teaser or is symbiot spidey seriously going to be just a black paintover? As far as I remember from the Amazing Spiderman comics he had a different logo and ofcourse, a different suit. That was a long time ago but i'm pretty sure about it.

The symbiote suit's going to show up on the movie version of Venom, but the symbiote suit for Spidey this time around is, yes, basically a black version of the regular suit. But look closer: the spider on his chest is different.

The Wise Vivi Nov 22, 2006 09:41 PM

This movie is going to rock! The trailer was orgasmic (Can I use that word...?)...

Anyway, come May, you will see me lining up to watch it. Spider-Man is my favorite comic book character and obviously, is my favorite comic to movie series.

ApOcaLyPSe_1985 Nov 23, 2006 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
The symbiote suit's going to show up on the movie version of Venom, but the symbiote suit for Spidey this time around is, yes, basically a black version of the regular suit. But look closer: the spider on his chest is different.

Yeah, I've noticed. I'm quite dissapointed with the suit change though, it's a small but important detail. The black paintover is uninspired and total crap... I thought it couldn't get worse after raping his webshooters and changing the Green Goblin. Movie-wise it won't really matter as i'm sure it will be a great production like the rest :D

There's one thing I still don't get though. Why is his name spelled Spider-Man instead of Spiderman? I mean, Batman is still called Batman without any seperation.

Dewman Nov 23, 2006 07:13 AM

Spider-Man was actually made with the hyphen (i.e. the original comics books uses it), so those not using the hyphen are blasphemous!

ApOcaLyPSe_1985 Nov 24, 2006 07:00 AM

Yeah I know, but it's still a bit odd when compared to the name Batman for example.
But since everything Spider-Man is awesomeness, I will bow down to the hyphen. All hail hyphen!

Newbie1234 Nov 25, 2006 09:54 PM

I personally wasn't impressed at all with the trailer. It just feels a bit too similar to Spider-Man 2 in the direction it's going and I also felt that they spoiled too much of the plot.

Of course I'm still going to watch the movie, I'm just not even close to as hyped as I was for Spider-Man 2.

The Furious One Dec 14, 2006 03:55 PM

Spidey Senses are tingling

http://img450.imageshack.us/img450/3628/vvmt4vk0.jpg

http://img322.imageshack.us/img322/6...2fd3rt1ve7.jpg

There are a few more pics, but the site I got them from image shack links went down due to high bandwidth, any got any links.

Shenlon Dec 14, 2006 03:59 PM

are those official movie images or photoshoped
damn I can't wait to see what they do with venom. I'm guessing he'll make an appearance in the end of the movie and it will end with a cliffhanger for part 4.

Acro-nym Dec 14, 2006 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApOcaLyPSe_1985
Yeah I know, but it's still a bit odd when compared to the name Batman for example.
But since everything Spider-Man is awesomeness, I will bow down to the hyphen. All hail hyphen!

Batman was originally The Bat-Man. The main reason Spider-Man has a hyphen is to distinguish it from Superman.

Hantei Dec 14, 2006 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shenlon
are those official movie images or photoshoped
damn I can't wait to see what they do with venom. I'm guessing he'll make an appearance in the end of the movie and it will end with a cliffhanger for part 4.

From what I posted a month ago, the Venom is (and the other two) apparently for the new game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hantei
Apparently these are character designs for the game. Venom's design definitely looks like it'd be from the movie (the webbing feature on the outfit, gives it away), while the Harry GG seems out of place. I mean the snowboarder look makes he appear like more of a common punk/thug, than the menacing Goblin.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2856/venomthwk6.jpghttp://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1...blin1thti6.jpghttp://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8...ndmanthmn3.jpg

http://filmick.blogspot.com/2006/11/...r-designs.html

BTW, there's a 33 page Spider-Man 3 article in the 2007 Movie Spectacular issue of Wizard. Some interviews here and there, pretty good read.

The Wise Vivi Dec 14, 2006 10:12 PM

I can't believe that its only 5 more months till thing movie comes out. I am soooo pumped for it. I have loved Spider-Man all my life and I love these movies even more!

I wonder if they will release another trailer before the release date.

The Furious One Dec 15, 2006 06:49 PM

http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/7...eanedupes9.jpg

Lookey what I found, has anyone heard this????

EDIT

Reuploaded the track (file was too big, so lowered the quality), its the Spidey theme but its slowed and throughout the track has a ticking, guess its emphasizing 'time' and the theme is slowed down. Is time running out for Spidey, or is another character going to die?!?

Also the file name is labelled "incomplete" - this is how I found it on the server, which has since gone down ??!? I renamed it *.mp3 but its actually a wma no protection. so change the mp3 part to wma if you have problems running it.

Can't seem to find those extra Spidey photos, imageshack still wont show it. heres the link, anyone seen any new shots on the net
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/...d.php?t=259513

xman25 Dec 15, 2006 11:08 PM

http://s2.supload.com/image.php?get=...feb-img374.jpg

The cover to the new issue of Premiere magazine.

xman25

Misogynyst Gynecologist Dec 17, 2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Furious One
Lookey what I found, has anyone heard this?

It's fake. Young hasn't even started on the movie, as he's still finishing up material for Ghost Rider. Spider-Man 3 will be recorded in the spring.

Freddy Krueger Dec 17, 2006 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wise Vivi
I can't believe that its only 5 more months till thing movie comes out. I am soooo pumped for it. I have loved Spider-Man all my life and I love these movies even more!

I wonder if they will release another trailer before the release date.

A new trailer is premiering with Ghost Rider

Hantei Jan 12, 2007 05:20 PM

Medicom is making some RAH Spider-Man 3 figures. Sideshow Toys (distributor for em) has Spidey, Black Suit Spidey, and Venom up for pre-order. Assuming that the Venom pictured is the final design for him, I'm dissapointed they didn't keep the white arachnid on the him. Venom's whole mouth/jaw seems a little awkward too.

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7...ss01001ea8.jpg

Venom: http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/c...27&affiliate=1
Spidey: http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/c...28&affiliate=1
Black Suit Spidey: http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/c...29&affiliate=1

Soldier Jan 12, 2007 06:07 PM

I saw that today. I'm slightly dissapointed. Just slightly. I always found the big white spider logo tatooed across his body to be symbolic. Sure, it's better than the spider-less Venom from Ultimate Spider-Man (though I hear he eventually gets the white symbol too), but the lack of an emblem here makes him look a little....Carnage-like.

Otherwise, it's a solid adaption.

aznxinvazn Jan 13, 2007 01:22 PM

Yeah, I was about to say that the new Venom design flows nicely from the current Spider-Man suit.

EDIT: Because the (original) costumes tend to look very goofy in real life, I think the decision to not use the iconic white spider creates a more dark and adaptable feel.

The Wise Vivi Jan 13, 2007 01:39 PM

I agree. I have no problem having them make the change, especially when blue and white can look a little tacky. Its going to be cool to see the characters in action. May can't come soon enough it seems!

Angel of Light Jan 13, 2007 01:52 PM

I would have to say that I'm excited for this movie as well. I haven't really been reading too much about it. Unfortunately all my movie attention is going to the Transformers movie which is being released this summer.

I absolutely love the spider-man films especially the second in which doctor octopus is my favourite spiderman villian. I have no doubts in my mind that this move is going to be good. The only fear I have about it, is I hope they don't match up spiderman against three villians during the entire movie. If it was up to me I would have him go against sandman and harry osbourne, and then after venom was created; just end the movie.

I just think the entire spiderman-venom rivalry deserves a movie by itself and it seems like they're cramming in a lot of plot with this movie. I'm sure they'll do a good job with it. Despite, whatever they do with the movie I'll still enjoy it regardless, and I personally think the designs are taking the right direction.

Hantei Jan 26, 2007 03:06 AM

For those who love the trailer music to the last Spider-Man 3 trailer, a link to full 3:07 version below (not the 30 sec preview that you can find here)! It's called "Trinity", composed specifically for the SM3 trailer(s) by James Dooley. Enjoy!

http://gtkilla.podbean.com/2006/12/0...-james-dooley/

The Furious One Jan 26, 2007 08:43 AM

Nice one Hentei!

Admiralhawk Feb 1, 2007 02:12 PM

I can't wait for this movie to come to theaters cause it totally rocks, from all the trailers I've seen!

Hantei Feb 11, 2007 04:06 PM

A look at the SM3 figures from Hasbro at Toy Fair 2007. These look kinda crappy and they're supposed to be 5" tall, smaller than the previous SM movie lines which were about 7". And of course, they all seem to be plagued with action features.

http://74.52.193.82/events/main.php?g2_itemId=3200

For some reason they've included Green Goblin and Doc Ock in the line, probably to make up for the smaller scale though. Interestingly, Scorpion, Rhino and the Lizard are included in the line up as well. The Scorpion and Rhino designs look like crap, but the Lizard... one might question whether he'll appear in the movie as the figure's detail and design hint at it (clearly looking more like something we'd see in the SM movies).

Acro-nym Feb 11, 2007 05:01 PM

The Scorpion design is from the reboot of Amazing Spider-Man in 2000, which was used in the video game based on the first movie.

The Rhino outfit was Hulkbuster armor used once, but is more well-known for being used in the Ultimate line at Marvel. That same design was used in the video game based on the second movie.

Lizard seems to be a mixture of the Ultimate and regular versions of the character and hasn't appeared in either game. Perhaps he'll be in the Spider-Man 3 game?

makura Mar 2, 2007 12:51 AM

I don't know if you guys have been watching Heroes or not, (you should be!)
but there will be new Spider-Man 3 footage shown this Monday March 5.

Sometime during the showing of Heroes on Monday, they'll show a 1 minute clip of never before seen footage from Spider-Man 3.
Then exclusively on nbc.com, for 24 hours, they'll have a 7 and a half minute preview streamed in HD

source: http://nbcumv.com/entertainment/rele...5manmeets.html

KCJ506 Mar 5, 2007 10:26 PM

http://www.nbc.com/Spiderman/

Note: Click only ONE of the choices (480p & 720p), only ONCE. it is downloading in the background and then opens the video ONCE IT'S ALL DONE (which can take a while). clicking multiple times could screw up your loading.
if your computer isn't all that good, to be safe watch the 480p version first as it's less system intensive, and you aren't risking having to wait to download it again if the 720p version can't play.

Hantei Mar 5, 2007 10:48 PM

Just watched it, showed the first Peter vs. GG Harry (well in the suit anyway) fight, which was pretty good. Though, I was hoping they would have showed some Sandman vs Spidey sequences. Nice little flash of Venom at the end (official this time) of the preview though, plus a quick flash of a huge Sandman.

Though, gotta say that the CGI didn't look that great it could definitely use a little polishing. Hopefully that wasn't the finished product.

EDIT: Some gifs


makura Mar 5, 2007 10:55 PM

Hehe, I ended up with three windows because I clicked it too many times.

If you guys have a download manager or something, here are the links to the mov files.

720p:
http://flash.sonypictures.com/video/...p_5000kbps.mov
480p:
http://flash.sonypictures.com/video/...p_4000kbps.mov

nazpyro Mar 5, 2007 11:39 PM

So I'm ridiculosly cised right now... the whole heartbeat-racing/sweating/mind-blown thing. :tpg:

:EPIC:

KCJ506 Mar 7, 2007 06:21 PM

Leaked Venom pictures!


http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...venomeddie.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...transform1.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...transform0.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...nom-preCG2.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...ophergrace.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...pher-raimi.jpg

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...phergrace2.jpg

Grail Mar 8, 2007 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 407243)
Though, gotta say that the CGI didn't look that great it could definitely use a little polishing. Hopefully that wasn't the finished product.

Well, in all fairness when I go back and watch Spidey 1 and 2, the CGI in those movies were no real big feats of accomplishment there either. For some reason it always will look kinda...cartoony to me.

makura Mar 8, 2007 01:43 AM

I like Venom's mouth in the concept art, but in the photos you see there Venom's mouth doesn't open up that wide. I hope they're going to be consistent with the mouth shapes.

BTW, did they change Venom's eyes too? In the newest trailer, it looks different compared to a leaked trailer a while back. The old one looks better IMO.

Old trailer:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6281/venom1ij6.png
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1109/venom2nh4.png

New trailer:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5435/venom3zo1.png
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2864/venom4yp6.png

Freddy Krueger Mar 11, 2007 06:24 PM

the new wonder-con 07 trailer was shown with 300. The trailer was awesome but I can't find it online. Anyone know where it is for download?

Newbie1234 Mar 11, 2007 06:44 PM

I like the mouth of the old Venom more, but the new one definitely has got more symbiote goop all over the place.

makura Mar 11, 2007 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger (Post 411280)
the new wonder-con 07 trailer was shown with 300. The trailer was awesome but I can't find it online. Anyone know where it is for download?

There's one on youtube, crappy phone cam quality.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=X5Z6gRT5d3w

It's missing the ending
Spoiler:
where Spider-man is in his ripped red costume looking panicked and Venom grabs his head from above


They showed the trailer twice, so somebody must have gotten a better shot.
(There were some people walking around checking for cams though.)

KCJ506 Mar 14, 2007 01:53 AM

Spoiler:

Freddy Krueger Mar 14, 2007 12:06 PM

where is the pic?

KCJ506 Mar 15, 2007 02:29 AM

The hell. It was working when I first posted it.



If you still can't see it click here

xman25 Mar 16, 2007 01:12 PM

International poster: http://superherohype.com/nextraimages/sm3intlposter.jpg

xman25

Meth Mar 23, 2007 01:08 PM

Final Spidey Trailer currently a comcast exclusive.

http://www.spiderman3oncomcast.com/

Click on exclusives.

The Furious One Mar 23, 2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meth (Post 417195)
Final Spidey Trailer currently a comcast exclusive.

http://www.spiderman3oncomcast.com/

Click on exclusives.

Awesome trailer, love the ending. Im glad to see venom has a big role in the movie. Sadly that could also mean this is the last spidey movie :gonk:

makura Mar 23, 2007 04:16 PM

Looks like Venom's mouth only opens.. sometimes..

I was hoping he's going to be more like the maquette they had..


awesome trailer!

Meth Mar 23, 2007 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by striped phantom (Post 417265)
Looks like Venom's mouth only opens.. sometimes..

I was hoping he's going to be more like the maquette they had..


awesome trailer!


Well it did only show like 2 shots of him. Maybe it'll show more in the flick.

Hantei Mar 23, 2007 08:36 PM

http://i13.tinypic.com/2h7fol0.jpg

Holy crap! That was awesome! Ha, and here I thought this was the same trailer shown in the theatre with 300. Man, Harry's face is fucked up now, aftermath of the point blank explosion of the pumpkin bomb no doubt. Love how the camera continuously followed Spidey in the subway, those spidey-cam shots are the best. So glad they showed more footage of Venom too.
But it didn't really seem like they improved on the CGI much at all, some of the shots look great, while others are kinda meh.

And how about that sunrise shot near the end of the trailer? Didn't they kinda reveal a little too much from that?
Spoiler:

http://i7.tinypic.com/4hjd65f.jpg
Clearly shot from near the end of the movie. Looks like Brock's dying/dead or something.

Oh and you can download a copy of either 480 or 720 p version of the trailer over at Internaspe, among other things.

http://www.internapse.com/

Simo Mar 25, 2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 417375)
And how about that sunrise shot near the end of the trailer? Didn't they kinda reveal a little too much from that?
Spoiler:

http://i7.tinypic.com/4hjd65f.jpg
Clearly shot from near the end of the movie. Looks like Brock's dying/dead or something.

Oh and you can download a copy of either 480 or 720 p version of the trailer over at Internaspe, among other things.

http://www.internapse.com/

Spoiler:
It's not Brock.

Ain't It Cool News received a scoop from an untried source about major plot points from the fim last year including the finale and 2 major characters dying, 1 of which during the finale. They were forced to take the story down by Sony but not because it was true but rather because of false and misleading the info was.

Only it wasn't. The info claimed the final battle of the movie would take place on a construction with Spider-Man & Harry Vs Venom & Sandman. So far the trailer has pretty much confirmed all the info is true and yeah even I was little surprised they included that sunset shot in trailer...

Hantei Mar 25, 2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo (Post 418154)
Spoiler:
It's not Brock.

Ain't It Cool News received a scoop from an untried source about major plot points from the fim last year including the finale and 2 major characters dying, 1 of which during the finale. They were forced to take the story down by Sony but not because it was true but rather because of false and misleading the info was.

Only it wasn't. The info claimed the final battle of the movie would take place on a construction with Spider-Man & Harry Vs Venom & Sandman. So far the trailer has pretty much confirmed all the info is true and yeah even I was little surprised they included that sunset shot in trailer...

Spoiler:
Oh wow, I kinda guessed at a Spidey & Harry team up; the recent release of the figures only reinforced that guess (Harry vs Sandman set? come on, like that wasn't obvious enough). As for that shot, I had a feeling that might have been Harry as well (ha, actually, it makes much more sense now, as both Pete and MJ are connected to him), but Brock came up first cause I thought the final battle was just Spidey vs. Venom. But after you mentioned the Sandman & Venom teaming up thing, kinda makes sense with what I've seen in the trailers + merchanding (huge ass Sandman attached to some girders).

Yea, not much left to be shocked about, thanks to the merchandising and recent trailers. Oh well, the movie should be one hell of a ride.

Sword Familiar Mar 26, 2007 08:05 AM

I can't shake the fact that Venom is skinny... Makes him look like a poor Alien rip-off. But hey, I guess you can't have it all. Still looking forward to this movie a lot.

Sepharite Apr 10, 2007 11:07 PM

There's a new scene: Venom jumping at Spiderman, which wasn't featured in the "final" trailer a few weeks ago. http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/spiderman3.html

Click on the final trailer.

makura Apr 10, 2007 11:59 PM

Seeing that a couple days ago made me wish they just CGed Venom from the start.

That pose and angle just makes him look like some demon baby...

Shenlon Apr 11, 2007 02:44 PM

The third trailer is finally out on the web which mostly involves Eddie.
This was the actual trailer they showed during the previews of the 300 movie.
http://movie-list.com/s/spider-man3-trl3.html

Hantei Apr 22, 2007 01:55 AM

Select short clips from the movie available for viewing at IGN.com, such as the subway scene with Spidey vs Sandman, and the construction crane scene with Spidey and Gwen.

http://media.movies.ign.com/media/04...73/vids_1.html


Also here's a pretty good image of Venom:

http://i12.tinypic.com/349fhpe.jpg

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5549

EDIT:
Oh, there's also a new TV spot featuring Venom, revealing much more footage of him, perhaps too much even....

http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5553

Drex May 7, 2007 11:30 AM

The movie wasn't bad. The action was incredible, and it was certainly action-packed. I only had one or two major issues with it.

Spoiler:
My biggest gripe is Harry's stupid butler. "Hi, I'm your butler. I've known about everything all along, but I've kept my mouth shut and haven't told you anything for no good reason. But now that Spiderman needs you, I'm going to come out of nowhere, and in classic deus ex machina fashion turn the whole plot around, then disappear again. Would you like a crumpet with that?"

My other gripe was the simple lack of decent villain development. If you're going to be so bold as to have three villains, for Pete's sake make them more dynamic than that. And killing off Venom so easily is RIDICULOUS. I'm sorry.

Matt May 7, 2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drex (Post 429350)
The movie wasn't bad. The action was incredible, and it was certainly action-packed. I only had one or two major issues with it.

Spoiler:
My biggest gripe is Harry's stupid butler. "Hi, I'm your butler. I've known about everything all along, but I've kept my mouth shut and haven't told you anything for no good reason. But now that Spiderman needs you, I'm going to come out of nowhere, and in classic deus ex machina fashion turn the whole plot around, then disappear again. Would you like a crumpet with that?"

My other gripe was the simple lack of decent villain development. If you're going to be so bold as to have three villains, for Pete's sake make them more dynamic than that. And killing off Venom so easily is RIDICULOUS. I'm sorry.

Spoiler:
Yeah the butler did drag the plot down the tubes in the end. He was a great addition for comic relief earlier in the movie, but his omnipotent knowledge of the Osbourne household was pretty cheesy.

Venom seemed to have developed well enough I thought. We saw Eddie, then he got the staff job, then Peter ruined his life, then he became Venom. The hate was there.
As for Sandman, he was uh, kind of pointless. I really didn't care when he was on screen, at all. And making him Uncle Ben's killer was the only reason I think they could have made him an actual villain and not a douche bag who can turn into a sandstorm.

Oh and the Goblin/Harry has been building up since Spidey 1. His development has been going on throughout the series.

Drex May 7, 2007 11:40 AM

Spoiler:
Sandman was so one-dimensional, and they made him near-omnipotent in power. Then Venom, while developed, was extremely linear. There wasn't any real depth to his character, only breadth. And then he wasn't as powerful as he ought to have been, I though. Venom largely worked alone in the comics if I recall correctly, so to not really even attempt taking on Spiderman alone before going to Sandman for help bugged me.

The Harry stuff was well-developed, but his character was severely hampered by where they took him - the short-term memory loss was cheesy, attacking MJ the way he did was bizarre, and the complete turn-around after the butler's revelation was dumb. There was so much they could have done there that they really didn't.

Shenlon May 7, 2007 04:08 PM

I was reading movie reviews before i went to see the movie and those really let me down but I was determined to see it with some friends. From what I read from some user reviews, they were just being to bitchy and expecting way too much from this movie.
Spoiler:
Sure the plot was way too rushed (meteor landing right in their love spot =0) but overall the whole movie was the last remaining moments of friendship between the trio of mary-jane, peter, and harry.
And yeah Sandman was pretty much useless unless you count the special effects, his scenes were awesome. But then they cheated it out at the end, "fly away, fly you sandy sea salted son of a bitch".
I honestly expected less show time from venom so I was pretty much satisfied with what he had to give. Not bad, not great but just right but why kill him ;_;
I just don't understand why people were so pissy that venom didn't call himself venom. Like wtf is up with that. Doc Oc was Doc oc, the goblin was the goblin and so forth. They knew who they were you don't need to tell anyone. Plus he just arrived at the end of the movie so no one knew who it was anyways.
Overall I liked the film even with the gaps of story but thats probably becuase I'm a big spidy fan.

Although I would have liked the arrival of the symbiot to be from the animated series. I think that would have made a bit more sence and they could have done some incredibly cg work with that.


Hantei May 7, 2007 05:42 PM

I loved the movie! Though there were some funky plot holes (like one Drex mentioned already, that was the biggest WTF moment for me), the action definitely delivered for me. Though I really was expecting a lot more black suit Spidey action than just black suit Parker. LOL, but I thought it was ridiculously hilarious when the showed the effects of symbiote on Parker's life.
Loved the movie's final battle even though it seemed a little corny at times.

Oh and Bruce Campbell's cameo for this one was great! LOL, and Jonah's bit this time was hilarious, kept LMAO. I thought Stan Lee's cameo in this was much better than the previous, where he was only in for a few seconds to pull somebody away.

The CG looked pretty good too, though Venom looked kinda cartoony at times. Oh and I really liked the score for this one, personally I thought it was a lot better than the previous films (namely the symbiote/black-suit theme).

Anyway, overall I agreed with many of the critics that mentioned that there were just too many villains/story for one movie. As some characters definitely didn't get the development they deserved *cough* Venom *cough*. Just not enough black suit Spidey or Venom.

BTW, did anyone else feel like the addition of the Stacy's seemed like a complete waste and was only done to please fanboys (or maybe anger them)?

Cellius May 7, 2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hantei (Post 429525)
The CG looked pretty good too, though Venom looked kinda cartoony at times. Oh and I really liked the score for this one, personally I thought it was a lot better than the previous films (namely the symbiote/black-suit theme).

This is an interesting little announcement regarding the film's music, although I'm sure it's probably common knowledge now:

http://www.themovieblog.com/archives...lling_out.html

Mithrandir May 7, 2007 07:04 PM

Yeah well, the music is by Christopher Young with cues from Elfman. So technically he worked with Young on the third film although he did not compose anything for the movie. Anyway, on Spiderman 2 I belive Young and Debney had to complete the movie score. Even though Elfman did release a soundtrack, some of the tracks were never used and were replaced by Young dans Debney's tracks.

The music isn't so bad although I prefered Elfman's style for the movie.

As for the movie itself it wasn't so bad but clearly, it isn't the best of all three. My main complaint is the fact that there was too much stock in the movie...to much stories to tell which makes the movie way too long. The battles are cool and the characters and actors are great. (specially, that appearance by Bruce Campbell :D)

My main complaint: too long.

Guru May 7, 2007 07:24 PM

I didn't mind the movie so much, but I wouldn't reccomend seeing it in an IMAX. IMAX theatres are good for movies that are made to be shown there, but I found myself getting dizzy and disoriented during the fight scenes in Spiderman... they're too fast and they cut to different camera angles so fast that you can't even keep your bearings. It's a little bit confusing.

WolfDemon May 8, 2007 01:11 AM

The movie wasn't bad, by any means, but I can't decide if I like this or 2 better.

I actually thought Sandman was pretty cool. I've never been a big fan of him, but the movie made me like him just a bit, like 2 did with Doc Ock. And the sand effects were amazing. They've come a long way since The Mummy.

I didn't see the need to throw Gwen Stacy into this one, other than to cause more drama between Peter and MJ and to mess up the continuity even more. And, I may not have been paying enough attention but
Spoiler:
when did she and Eddie Brock split up for her to go on that date with Peter? It seemed like they just sort of left that bit out.


Emo Peter was great. His little Saturday Night Fever-esque strutting down the street and his pelvic thrust dance were probably the funniest damn things I've ever seen.

My main gripe with the movie was with Venom. After hearing him with the voice from the cartoon and from Marvel vs. Capcom for so long, hearing him speak with Topher Grace's voice was just too weird to me. Also he didn't speak in his trademark "symbiote-speak," referring to himself as "I" instead of "we." Not a big deal, but it's a discrepancy any Spiderman fan would catch. And he was far too scrawny. Venom/Brock is supposed to be a big muscular guy, but here, he's basically Black-Suit Spiderman with Venom's head.

Which brings me to the case of just that. Like someone said earlier, he was a little too cartoonish, mainly because of the way his head looked whenever he had his mouth open wide and was roaring or whatever. He looked like some sort of puppet. I think they could've done a better job if they'd spent more time on that.

Spoiler:
I was pretty surprised at how quickly they killed Venom off. It was like he appeared, fought for about 10 minutes and was gone. Blown the fuck up, definitely not coming back for any sequels. Guess we're not getting a Maximum Carnage movie any time soon. All the Carnage-haters will probably be pleased.


It was kinda cool seeing Topher Grace as a villain instead of the goody-two-shoes Eric Forman character we know from That 70's Show. But I think his role was hideously misplaced. He plays an okay villain, but not a very good Venom. Carnage, maybe. At least then he'd match the physical profile.

All in all, it's good, but it could've been better.

KCJ506 May 8, 2007 04:35 AM

I loved this movie, but I can't decide if I liked this or the second one better. With all the negative reviews I'm been seeing I was a little worried at first.

The film like any other film did have it's low points

Spoiler:
Not enough black suit/Venom action. Peter only fights with it on just ONCE. That's right people. Just once. I'd really like it if they had at least another fight scene between Sandman or New Goblin with him wearing it or see him REALLY laying the smack down on some criminals. It's totally sucked not seeing this.


Spoiler:
No one besides Brock and the bugle seemed to notice the costume change. That was the biggest change in Spider-Man's appearence and not many people seemed to notice or questions as to why the change. Brock says something right before Spidey leaps into the sewers to go after Sandman and the bugle has pictures of the black Spidey. My favorite was the with Spidey shoving a criminal through a car windshield.(Which would have been awesome if it was shown)

Sandman sees him and doesn't make a comment. I was expecting MJ to see it and wonder where he got it from.


Spoiler:
Okay now on to the Sandman. THC was great, but I didn't like that he didn't get that much screentime. An entire subplot involving him and his family was cut out. There's was supposed to be a scene where he visits his daughters' doctor and he gets frustrated and shoves him out the window. This was shown in trailers. I hate it when they show stuff in trailers, but they don't put it in the movie.


Spoiler:
The final battle was great, but I'm beginning to wish that Venom didn't appear until the fourth movie. The movie could have ended with Brock getting the symbiot suit. Raimi orginally didn't want to use him, but Avi Arad forced it on him because that's who the fans wanted. Venom fans might feel gipped.


Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html


Take this one with a HUGH grain of salt.

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blo...-Already!.html

I found it interesting but I stopped caring after I read this

Quote:

... and hopefully NO Sam Raimi. Avi Arad, please find someone who CARES what the fans think!
No...just no.

Funny isn't it...the one time Sam gives the fans what they ask for, they dislike the movie. Goes to show you something...

WolfDemon May 8, 2007 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506 (Post 429870)
Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html

Spoiler:
The only characters (Who I remember) who die in 3 are Harry and Brock. Brock got blown to hell with the symbiote, and Harry got impaled by his glider (Haha, like father, like son.) and Peter and MJ are shown attending his funeral. I really don't see how either of them could realistically come back. But I'll be pissed if they resort to some kind of Zombie Harry.


Quote:

Take this one with a HUGH grain of salt.

http://www.freezedriedmovies.com/blo...-Already!.html

I found it interesting but I stopped caring after I read this



No...just no.

Funny isn't it...the one time Sam gives the fans what they ask for, they dislike the movie. Goes to show you something...
I believe what that's referring to is how Raimi had to have his arm twisted to put Venom in 3, rather than putting him in on his own at the request of the fans. I don't see anything in that article about people disliking the movie, but I think it's pretty clear that the Raimi-bashing is because of his half-assed Venom.
Spoiler:
Completely screwing Venom up like he did, and killing him off in not even 20 minutes to boot, is a pretty big slap in the face to the Venom fans. It's like he's saying "There, I put him in, now he's dead, so fuck off." I wouldn't want someone like that making a movie either.

Hantei May 8, 2007 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506 (Post 429870)
Spoiler:
The final battle was great, but I'm beginning to wish that Venom didn't appear until the fourth movie. The movie could have ended with Brock getting the symbiot suit. Raimi orginally didn't want to use him, but Avi Arad forced it on him because that's who the fans wanted. Venom fans might feel gipped.

Spoiler:
That's actually what I predicting would happen too when I saw the first trailer. As I was just expecting them to do a whole arc with the symbiote/black-suit Spidey and the consequences of actions with it on Sandman. Then ending the movie with Brock getting it and plotting some vengence, allowing Venom to have his own movie.


Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJ506 (Post 429870)
Here's two articles about future Spidey movies.

This one mentions that a character who is supposedly dead may not be dead after all.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/784/784823p1.html

Spoiler:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Venom, rven though we saw him get blown to hell, there still a possibility. Remember Conner's still has that sample of the symbiote, maybe it'll sense out the remains.

S_K May 8, 2007 06:48 PM

Just seen it and I gotta say from the moment Spiderman turns to an emo, pretty much the rest of the film besides the effects became a laughing stock imo. Sorry to the fans, but it's the most lol bad comic book film I've seen since the last Blade movie, surely you have to admit the generally emo attitude of the film trilogy compared to everything else representing Spiderman showing him as a bit of a joker gets just a little bit annoying, which I'm pretty sure is also what pissed off the viewers WolfDemon.

A friend of mine made an interesting point though, I wonder how the films would have done if James Franco and Tobey Maguire had switched roles...

Cellius May 8, 2007 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S_K (Post 430295)
A friend of mine made an interesting point though, I wonder how the films would have done if James Franco and Tobey Maguire had switched roles...

Wow what a profound observation. Hey look I can do it too:

I wonder how the films would have done if Rosemary Harris and Kirsten Dunst had switch roles...

S_K May 8, 2007 08:41 PM

What you mean I have to elaborate? :rolleyes: the script wasn't exactly gold to begin with, but given their average performances here they'd easily fit the roles better. James just has a mischievous streak to him that Tobey lacks which was always something that made Spiderman more interesting as a character, then again it's not entirely the actors to blame here I'll give you that.

how to sum up the difference... something like...:

comic spiderman: being a superhero is tough *Whine, complain*... lol that guy has 6 arms... oh fuck that's one of my teachers...

film spiderman: being a superhero is tough... *angst, whine, wrath, unintentional funny awkward moment*

davd49 May 8, 2007 11:09 PM

I found the song played during the Emo Spider-Man Strut montage from the movie, it's called "People Get Up And Drive Your Funky Soul" by James Brown, it's really similar to the spider-man 1967 theme song in certain parts (especially around 4:08)!
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TZFEED9Z
http://rapidshare.com/files/30287065..._-jce.mp3.html

Interrobang May 8, 2007 11:39 PM

What a shit movie. It's obvious that Raimi was a fanboy for Sandman at the expense of Venom, so we get Marko's absolute irrelevance. The movie would've been tighter if just Harry and Venom were used.

Tobey is still a ugly fucker who should be spending more of the movie in a superhero costume, but at least the strained faces were kept to a minimum.

but hey peter hitler lol
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...8598353531.gif

dusk May 9, 2007 01:29 AM

Bryce Dallas Howard... soo pretty...

Spider-Man 3... not so pretty...

Like many have said before, too much in too little time.

Spoiler:
Did it bother anyone else that Spidey just let the Sandman get away in the end? Forgiveness is cool and all, but JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED. I thought he would've been fully glassed by the Osborn kid, but nope. La lame.


Spiderman 2 remains my favorite in the series.

S_K May 9, 2007 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Interrobang (Post 430433)

oh god I didn't think it was possible to make that scene any more lol :tpg:

The Furious One May 9, 2007 07:08 AM

Saw the movie hated the movie.

They had waaaay too much fun making this movie, felt like they drop a tonne of smelly cheese.

LOL whats the deal with the american flag scene, that was way over the top.

Main problem as probably most of you feel, too many characters in the movie, did they really need the sandman in the movie. No not really, they could of started the movie towards the end on the movie instead. And whats the deal with making Venom the biggest pussy villian. I was expecting Spidey to get his ass seriously wooped. :gonk:

Best character was Harry by far, he had the best lines, and did the best acting.

Anyway enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGhHh9mV_Q

KCJ506 May 9, 2007 05:48 PM

George Lucas calls Spider-man "silly"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270874,00.html

Quote:

Lucas told me he has seen all the summer movies since his company, Industrial Light and Magic, does most of the special effects. The only one they didn't work on was "Spider-Man 3." What did he think of it?

"It's silly. It's a silly movie," he said. "There just isn't much there. Once you take it all apart, there's not much story, is there?"

Well, it's not "Star Wars."

"People thought 'Star Wars' was silly, too," he added, with a wink. "But it wasn't
Maybe it was a bit silly, but he isn't really in much of a position to be publicly calling anyone else's films silly. The birth of Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" or Jar-Jar anyone?

He is the last person who should say that.

Protom@nNeo May 9, 2007 06:26 PM

I missed seeing this opening weekend, and in a way I'm glad. Having had to endure the lackluster reviews and internet backlash for several days lowered my expectations. As a result, I knew about some of the sillier moments before they happened, and was able to appreciate what was done right that much more. Not nearly as bad a film as individuals made it out to be. It amazes how cynical people (even on the interweb) are at times. Oh and a note The Furious One: You didn't notice the blatant American flag placement in the first two films?

Chiribo May 9, 2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protom@nNeo (Post 430950)
I missed seeing this opening weekend, and in a way I'm glad. Having had to endure the lackluster reviews and internet backlash for several days lowered my expectations. As a result, I knew about some of the sillier moments before they happened, and was able to appreciate what was done right that much more. Not nearly as bad a film as individuals made it out to be. It amazes how cynical people (even on the interweb) are at times. Oh and a note The Furious One: You didn't notice the blatant American flag placement in the first two films?

It might be that people did notice them, but seeing as the movies came out quite a while ago people forgot about them.

I also saw this movie just the other day, I went in not expecting much because a friend of mine had seen it and she said it was cheesy. After watching the movie myself, I could wholeheartedly agree with her, little story line and the show of emotions by characters could most likely have been better represented by a 16bit video game. The only thing I really appreacited in that movie was some of the special effects, but even then... :(

dusk May 9, 2007 09:04 PM

I would also like to add that this movie needed more action, and less... whatever there is besides action in life... and also... the CGI was disappointing at certain points. Like, there were times where I could totally see Tobey's head real head attached to a CGI Spidey body. Also, I very much disliked how Venom "de-faced" everytime he talked (save for the first time Venom and Sandman meet). I would've rather seen Venom speak ("We!") instead of stupid Topher and his lame fake teeth every few minutes at the end.

SADNESS!

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 9, 2007 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protom@nNeo (Post 430950)
Having had to endure the lackluster reviews and internet backlash for several days lowered my expectations.

Ehh, keep in mind that everyone on the internet thinks that they have a valid opinion when some of them struggle to get a GED. The internet isn't really the place where educated people met up like it was in the 70s - you'll find the general population on it would be only educated enough to be picking lint out of a sock machine if this was 1944.

XanaduTheory May 11, 2007 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Furious One (Post 430592)
Saw the movie hated the movie.

They had waaaay too much fun making this movie, felt like they drop a tonne of smelly cheese.

LOL whats the deal with the american flag scene, that was way over the top.

Main problem as probably most of you feel, too many characters in the movie, did they really need the sandman in the movie. No not really, they could of started the movie towards the end on the movie instead. And whats the deal with making Venom the biggest pussy villian. I was expecting Spidey to get his ass seriously wooped. :gonk:

Best character was Harry by far, he had the best lines, and did the best acting.

Anyway enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azGhHh9mV_Q


It seems as if people forget how cheesy the comics books are. While I would be up for a discussion about why Spider-Man is the worst superhero of the collective famous, I must say that for the most part, the films are done fairly in-line with the comics.

While Spider-Man 3 may be a bit more over the top than the previous two, I don't really see too much of an issue with that. Much of the difference between Spider-Man and other comic superheros is that Peter Parker is a teenager, so it's only given that many of the film's issues are teen or young adult oriented. Moreover, Spider-Man is known for stupid one-liners and pseudo-intellectual quips, especially from Parker. But you're right, James Franco's character did the best (read: cheesiest) acting of the lot; I particularly liked the one-liners: "You like peppers?" "It's so good!" "Am I interrupting?"

Also, there's an American Flag scene is every Spider-Man film. The end of the first shows Parker webbing off a flag pole holding nothing but a gigantic US Flag. The second film ends with him webbing off into the sunset amid a row of buildings with a myriad of US Flags. So, it only makes sense that the third ends with him coming to kick ass with the US Flag as a backdrop.

Don't go into it expecting some serious drama film, since Spider-Man is anything but in nature.

dusk May 11, 2007 11:43 PM

Can't forget James Franco "bopping" Kirsten Dunst. Oh boy.

Cobra May 12, 2007 08:01 PM

Can't forget that, either.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7...g5gfg00eq6.gif

S_K May 13, 2007 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobra (Post 432682)

Needs more Hitler mustache =P but on a serious note I swear these dancing gifs are going to start appearing all over the net if they haven't already :gonk:

Prime Blue May 18, 2007 05:51 AM

I'm not into Spider-Man very much, so could someone please explain how he took pictures of himself before having a relationship with Mary Jane (who seemed to shoot them for him)? Could be that it was explained in the previous movies but I can't really remember the first one.

A friend wanted to go to the cinema yesterday so he convinced me to join him. Didn't enjoy it very much, though. It was just "Woosh, woosh, woosh" - too many rushed and undeveloped scenes (How/Why was Sandman created?
Spoiler:
The butler knows everything and clears it all up in 20 seconds? MJ's and Harry's brief liaison?
) along with the all-too-forced cheesiness. Not really the dancing stuff (just think about all the GIFs that'll spawn from that) but more that "we can always choose to do what's right"-thing, this stupid Hollywood morals are just ridiculous and I really hate it when movies use them. "Be a good boy, love is the greatest thing in the world", "Bla, bla, bla, filler lines". That combined with the all-too predictable plot
Spoiler:
- Sandman's innocence [please forgive him, dear audience!] and Harry's death -
made it just your everyday American movie.
The thing that bothered me most is that the film needed well over 120 minutes for a story easily fitting into half an hour because of its rushedness. Either give a short summary of the plot or make it a four hour movie.

Also: Why do all red-haired women taste like strawberries? :tpg:

chato May 18, 2007 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by S_K (Post 432845)
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7...g5gfg00eq6.gif
Needs more Hitler mustache =P but on a serious note I swear these dancing gifs are going to start appearing all over the net if they haven't already :gonk:

That was the best scene in the whole movie ;p. On a serious note, the whole Mary Jane scenes were fucking pointless and should've had Venom for part 4. I knew where they were going with this but with just the Sandman it could've been great while having Harry Osbourne turn into a psychotic goblin (and knowing who spiderman is)like in the Spider tAs version. I do appreciate the action-packed scenes at least.

Spoiler:
The whole Sandman forgiveness scene looked like a G-Rated version of Saw 3 when Jigsaw was asking for forgiveness XD

Misogynyst Gynecologist May 18, 2007 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Prime Blue (Post 435551)
I'm not into Spider-Man very much, so could someone please explain how he took pictures of himself before having a relationship with Mary Jane

I'm not sure what you're refering to - but the Peter Parker character has long had a time-delay shutter on his camera (or, for more whiz-bang for your buck, a device on his belt that clicks the shutter whenever he passes in front of the camera lens). He just webs it to a wall and does whatever he does...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime Blue (Post 435551)
How/Why was Sandman created?

I... assume you missed about 10 minutes of the movie, as Marko is chased by police and he falls into the partical accelerator?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime Blue (Post 435551)
"we can always choose to do what's right"-thing, this stupid Hollywood morals are just ridiculous and I really hate it when movies use them. "Be a good boy, love is the greatest thing in the world", "Bla, bla, bla, filler lines".

You obviously know very little about the character, so I'll leave this one alone.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime Blue (Post 435551)
That combined with the all-too predictable plot... made it just your everyday American movie.

You just sound jaded here. Can you legitimize any of your complaints or are you simply going to list them off, in the hopes that others odd their head in agreement with empty ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prime Blue (Post 435551)
Also: Why do all red-haired women taste like strawberries?

As a matter of personal investigation I can tell you they don't.

Also: Stop quoting Goldeneye. :p

Prime Blue May 18, 2007 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
I'm not sure what you're refering to - but the Peter Parker character has long had a time-delay shutter on his camera (or, for more whiz-bang for your buck, a device on his belt that clicks the shutter whenever he passes in front of the camera lens). He just webs it to a wall and does whatever he does...

Clever guy, that Parker.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
I... assume you missed about 10 minutes of the movie, as Marko is chased by police and he falls into the partical accelerator?

Yeah, but... Uh... Why is there a particle accelerator in the midst of a park? And why do those scientists activate it in the first place? Storyline... purposes? :confused:

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
You obviously know very little about the character, so I'll leave this one alone.

As I said, I'm not very into Spider-Man apart from reading a few Wikipedia entries. Haven't read a single comic.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
You just sound jaded here. Can you legitimize any of your complaints or are you simply going to list them off, in the hopes that others odd their head in agreement with empty ideas?

A little bit 'a' both. :cmb:
It's just that this happens a lot of the time with high-budget Hollywood productions that so desperately try to be heroic and epic. Then they want to rub some kind of morale in your face although you clearly recognise which message the director wanted to convey. *whine* *bitch* *moan*

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
As a matter of personal investigation I can tell you they don't.

You're cool. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeHah (Post 435578)
Also: Stop quoting Goldeneye. :p

Never saw a Bond movie. This is the first time I accidentally quoted something.
...What exactly did I quote?

Genthar May 18, 2007 05:17 PM

Spider-Man 3 was complete garbage!

I knew it wouldn't be as good at the first two when they revealed the casting choices and character selections for the movie in Jan 2006. And boy was I right but never did I think that it would be this bad.

To be quite honest I don't know where to begin, Okay they crammed three bad guys into this movie: Harry Osbourne who of course takes up the mantle of the Green Goblin to exact revenge on Peter Parker / Spider-Man for the death of his father. Then we have an angst ridden version of the Sandman another of Spider-Man's staple villains from the comic-book. Finally there was the much hyped Venom, who is a great character in the book but on screen is a load of crap; Amateurish CGI and a ridiculous "origin" plot cement the big-screen Venom as the worst move ever made by Raimi. With that lot there I was half-expecting Hobgoblin, Kraven, Vulture, Scorpion, Shocker and Rhino to turn up as well.

The plot of this movie veered so far off course from the comic-book that it didn't seem like a Spidey flick at all. The obvious love that Raimi had for Spider-Man's established lore showed in the care care and attention to the characters of the first 2 films, but this was in no-way evident on screen. Gwen Stacy shouldn't have been here at all, Eddie Brock should be a 6-foot football jock not a Daily Bugle photographer, and the whole Uncle-Ben-was-actually-killed-by-Marko was quite frankly insane and detracted from the whole "With great power..." lesson that Peter learned as the guy that escaped now didn't likk Ben!!! The origin of Venom I may have lived with if it had sped up the film and they hadn't introduced the astronaut John Jameson in Spider-Man 2 who should have brought the Venom symbiont to Earth thus ruining a perfect already established plot device.

The movie was far too long by about 25 mins, Raimi tried to pile too much on here. He had two new villains who needed origins, motivations and alter-ego's. One villain too many I say, either Sandman or Venom should have been chucked during the editing of the script especially if they were intent on exploring Harry Osbourne/Green Goblin, thus eliminating their origins and alter ego storyline as well. Gwen Stacy/Captain Stacy had no business really in the film they could have been cut too. There wasn't enough Daily Bugle/J. Jonah Jameson scenes and the snappy dialogue crafted for J.K. Simmons in the previous movies was absent here, it was like a character trying to be J.J. but not hitting the mark, it would have made more sense to have a J.J. hell-bent on tracking down the new black-suited-wall-crawling menace. All those changes may have made the movie less of a mess and less disjointed as opposed to watching Peter, Mary Jane, Harry, Sandman and Venom's mediocre storylines converge in a climax that while spectacular- I had lost interest about 45 minutes earlier and just didn't give a shit at that stage.

James Franco seemed to be the only person even trying to act on screen, how fitting it is then for in a film like this that he dies. Another major problem is that they cast Bryce Dallas Howard as Gwen Stacy who unfortunately is a superior actress (with a superior bod) to Kirsten Dunst, it's unbelievable for Peter not to dump Mary Jane for Gwen. Dunst carried it off well for the previous two movies but her on-screen charisma is nothing in comparison to Howard. Thomas Hayden Church has come a long way from the village-idiot Lowell on the sit-com Wings but fails to impact as this over-dramatized Sandman. Topher Grace is an excellent comedy actor and his performance here should remind him to stay with the comedy genre. The best thing about this film wasn't even J.K. Simmons this time round, it was the amazing Bruce Campbell in a 2 minute cameo as a "French" waiter who easily stole the show.

Final word: Sam Raimi has turned what should have been an awesome trilogy to rank up there with Indy, LOTR and Terminator but has soiled the franchise with this excrement even worse then Brett Ratner did with X:3.


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