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Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Mar 2, 2006 06:28 PM

Final Fantasy XII Limited Edition OST now available for preorder.
 
Since there was no thread about upcoming releases (maybe we should make one?), I figured I'd post this news tidbit.

It seems that Cocoe is taking preorders for the LE disc as of today.

At a measly 36 US bucks, it's a heck of a good price. (I expected at least 10 bucks more than that). I preordered mine about 10 minutes ago, along with ordering a copy of the VP reprint. Hopefully this soundtrack lives up to some of Sakimoto's older works. =D

Now with that out of the way I guess we can use this thread for discussion of this OST or something. Up to you guys. =ooo

Flip Boulala Mar 2, 2006 06:39 PM

Whow!, that's a good collector's set, and 29€ it's a very good price
Release Date Apr 19, 2006

Im going to pre-order it now!!

seanne Mar 2, 2006 06:51 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't like the look of this set? It looks a bit too much like a DVD box set for my tastes. After the beautiful FFXI box I had expected something prettier.

Here is a larger version of that image by the way.

Raijin Mar 2, 2006 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanne
Am I the only one who doesn't like the look of this set? It looks a bit too much like a DVD box set for my tastes. After the beautiful FFXI box I had expected something prettier.

Here is a larger version of that image by the way.


Well DigiCube made some great limited editions at this time. I miss them... :( I still like the pack though!

FPI Mar 2, 2006 07:06 PM

Yeah, it looks indeed like some "DVD-Special Extended Collectors Edition"-Set, but overall, I have no problems with it. It's maybe a bit simple, but it looks not bad.

bishop743 Mar 2, 2006 07:19 PM

I'm gonna wait for this to pop up on Amazon JP before I order it. I love Cocoebiz but this is an album I NEED to have on the day of release, so I'll opt for the faster shipping. As far as the packaging is concerned... I could careless. It looks fine to me. Since when did we get hung up on outside appearances heh? It's all about the music for me.

DarkRavenX Mar 2, 2006 08:51 PM

Preordered. Thanks a bunch for the info! This is one release ive been dying to have, for the curiosity of what its gonna sound like more than anything......

Simo Mar 2, 2006 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
Since there was no thread about upcoming releases (maybe we should make one?), I figured I'd post this news tidbit.

It seems that Cocoe is taking preorders for the LE disc as of today.

At a measly 36 US bucks, it's a heck of a good price. (I expected at least 10 bucks more than that). I preordered mine about 10 minutes ago, along with ordering a copy of the VP reprint. Hopefully this soundtrack lives up to some of Sakimoto's older works. =D

Now with that out of the way I guess we can use this thread for discussion of this OST or something. Up to you guys. =ooo

That's cheaper than I expected. I've never ordered from them before so how reliable are they? Also any idea on the shipping costs? :)

seanne Mar 2, 2006 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishop743
Since when did we get hung up on outside appearances heh? It's all about the music for me.

I don't know if I'm "hung up" on it. It's not like it would make me not buy it or anything. Apperance certainly matters though. Would you not rather look at something pretty than somethng ugly?

bishop743 Mar 2, 2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanne
I don't know if I'm "hung up" on it. It's not like it would make me not buy it or anything. Apperance certainly matters though. Would you not rather look at something pretty than somethng ugly?

Well first, let me say that I wasn't singling you out or anything. This topic came up over at STC as well and people were saying that the packaging and DVD-case setup wasn't appealing. Of course I'd rather look at something pretty but I don't need a whole of lot extras and bells and whistles in the packaging to make a purchase that much more satisfying. This set isn't ugly by any stretch of the imagination. If this set looked similar to the FFXI LE... but the music sucked, would you be ok with that? I don't think so. :P That's all I was saying.

seanne Mar 2, 2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bishop743
If this set looked similar to the FFXI LE... but the music sucked, would you be ok with that? I don't think so. :P That's all I was saying.

It depends. The FFXI packaging makes for a real work of art in it's own. Perhaps I should hang it up on a wall or frame it or something =D

bishop743 Mar 2, 2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanne
It depends. The FFXI packaging makes for a real work of art in it's own. Perhaps I should hang it up on a wall or frame it or something =D

haha, I feel you man. I get where you're coming from. The packaging and such in that LE was damn good. Possibly the best I've ever seen. But I don't mind the DVD set in this set though. I bought the Grandia III OST and it came in a DVD case as well. I just can't wait to see what Sakimoto has in store for his first foray into the main FF series.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Mar 2, 2006 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
That's cheaper than I expected. I've never ordered from them before so how reliable are they? Also any idea on the shipping costs? :)

I have no idea about shipping costs to where you live, but the fastest shipping to Canada was about 1200 yen or so.

And you can trust the website. Never had a problem with 'em in the past, and they ship faster than otaku seems to.

Simo Mar 2, 2006 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
I have no idea about shipping costs to where you live, but the fastest shipping to Canada was about 1200 yen or so.

And you can trust the website. Never had a problem with 'em in the past, and they ship faster than otaku seems to.

Well I'm in Michigan so I gather it'd be around the same price so that puts it at around $10? Not bad.

PiccoloNamek Mar 2, 2006 10:38 PM

Woo-hoo! Preordered.

Kaleb.G Mar 2, 2006 10:55 PM

That price is a steal. However, I want to wait and hear the music before I toss my money in the wind. After all, the game will be out in Japan a month before the OST is released. Sakimoto has never done a soundtrack of this size before, and I don't want to buy this soundtrack only to find out that 75% is boring filler.

cubed Mar 2, 2006 11:04 PM

how is this price a steal ?? I dunno if the music is good or not. I'm gonna wait too. When I first saw the set, I was about to click on BUY NOW BITCH but didn't. Me wants samples first.

soulsteelgray Mar 2, 2006 11:31 PM

I'm positively amazed at the cheapness of the OST. I took one look at the picture and went, "Oh, man, that's gotta be expensive." I wonder why it's such a bargain?

Since it's so cheap and all, I guess I'm going to buy it just because it looks so nice.

Klondike Mar 3, 2006 01:03 PM

Well if it's samples you want, you should buy Dragon Quest VIII or otherwise find the FFXII demo disc and hear the stuff he did for it. There's not many songs available on it, but at least one (Phon Coast) is worth hearing and enough to get you excited.

Simo Mar 3, 2006 06:58 PM

If samples are needed then I can go ahead and post a YSI of Tappy's rip of the demo as well as the gamemp3 release of "Symphonic Poem: Hope"?

I have one last question about Cocoe but is it true they deduct payment as soon as the preorder is made or do they actually take payment when the item is in stock and shipped per the norm?

Tappy Mar 3, 2006 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klondike
but at least one (Phon Coast) is worth hearing and enough to get you excited.

Indeed, but the track that really did it for me was the "Summon(ing)" track, which is definitely my favorite Sakimoto piece from FFXII so far!

Everything I've heard so far is excellent stuff, there's nothing that was boring or sounded like "filler" music....so I definitely made sure I preordered it just now! ^_^

Prime Blue Mar 3, 2006 09:08 PM

Is it just me or does the new instrument library make all the songs sound the same? I watched that new 10-minute movie from the Famitsu DVD and it just seemed like the same track was playing all the time, using these intensely annoying synth brasses.

nazpyro Mar 3, 2006 09:31 PM

Just looking at the photo makes this such an impulse buy for me since I like preordering "limited edition" stuff like this. I'll settle though, like some of you, and wait to hear if it is indeed worth it or not. It does look nice... eh, maybe I'm still thinking about it.

Rydia Mar 3, 2006 09:37 PM

That's interesting how the soundtrack only costs that much. I also expected it to be expensive, but that's affordable considering what's included.

cubed Mar 3, 2006 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
If samples are needed then I can go ahead and post a YSI of Tappy's rip of the demo as well as the gamemp3 release of "Symphonic Poem: Hope"?

I have one last question about Cocoe but is it true they deduct payment as soon as the preorder is made or do they actually take payment when the item is in stock and shipped per the norm?

few days after you preorder. So preordering 2 months in advance..

anyway I never got any problem with her. my first purchase was F-Zero GX/AX. and I often order hard-to-find albums from there.

lightgem Mar 4, 2006 03:35 AM

Preordered. I did want some samples, but why bother since I'm going to buy it anyway.

JazzFlight Mar 4, 2006 01:52 PM

Did anyone listen to Symphonic Poem Hope yet and see it used in the Hope Trailer Music Video?

It's incredibly beautiful. I was tearing up at some of the solo violin parts.

I have such high hopes for the soundtrack now.

Rydia Mar 4, 2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazzflight
Did anyone listen to Symphonic Poem Hope yet and see it used in the Hope Trailer Music Video?

It's incredibly beautiful. I was tearing up at some of the solo violin parts.

I have such high hopes for the soundtrack now.

I just finished listening to it, and the songs were indeed good. I particularly enjoyed the last three tracks.

Thanks for the trailer as well.

Metal Sphere Mar 4, 2006 02:08 PM

Yeah, it's pretty awsome. The Road to Hope bit is my favorite part though the rest isn't bad by any means. Oh, and welcome back Jazz.

soulsteelgray Mar 4, 2006 02:18 PM

Symphonic Poem "Hope" is a great piece of music, though I was expecting something longer. It's great the way it is, though.

Did Hitoshi Sakamoto compose it?

Metal Sphere Mar 4, 2006 02:21 PM

IIRC, I don't think so. Check this out according to CDJapan:

Quote:

Main theme to the PlayStation 2 game "Final Fantasy XII" composed by clasical musician Taro Hakase. This, Hakase's first release in five years, features the first ever "Final Fantasy" theme song to be released in the same format worldwide. Song performed with the London Philharmonic Orchestra. Bonus DVD includes cut scenes for the main game and characters. Special package features "Final Fantasy" character pattern. *Unless otherwise indicated, DVDs are region-2 encoded (Japan, Europe, and Middle East), and carry no subtitles.

seanne Mar 4, 2006 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
Did Hitoshi Sakamoto compose it?

It was composed by Taro Hakase and Yuji Toriyama. It was inspired by Sakamoto's main theme for the game though.

Echolyn Mar 4, 2006 03:33 PM

It's one of the best pieces of music i've heard for some time, I really hope this is really meant for the FFXII soundtrack and that it is used ingame because it would be such a waste otherwise.

I also checked the video great stuff, can't wait for the day that Final Fantasy will be completely of those graphics!

EDIT: But wait a minute wasn't Nobou-san going to do the main theme or is he completely removed from the soundtrack??

soulsteelgray Mar 4, 2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echolyn
But wait a minute wasn't Nobou-san going to do the main theme or is he completely removed from the soundtrack??

I think all he's doing is writing the music for the vocal theme, Kiss Me Good-Bye.

Echolyn Mar 4, 2006 04:04 PM

Doens't matter though I really love this main them more than any of the older ff's themes. :D

Motsy Mar 4, 2006 05:13 PM

Hope alone guaranteed a preorder for me.

Kaleb.G Mar 4, 2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motsy
Hope alone guaranteed a preorder for me.

What's "Hope"? Are you talking about "Symphonic Poem "Hope""? Is that even going to be on the OST?

Metal Sphere Mar 4, 2006 07:52 PM

Well, the Limited Edition OST has tracks that aren't even going to be in the game itself (an example of this would be the Symphonic Poem).

FOXDIE Mar 4, 2006 11:35 PM

I am going to wait a few days and see if I can pre-order it at cdjapan. If not, then I guess I will be hitting that red and famous "Buy Now" button from Cocoebiz... errr... VGMWorld.

Simo Mar 5, 2006 12:43 AM

For those that already preordered it from Cocoabiz/VGMWorld, have they already deducted payment for the CD?

lightgem Mar 5, 2006 03:37 AM

Talking about Symphonic Poem, I have a little question to ask. Does Symphonic poem apply the same structures and rules with Symphony, or not? From what I 've listened, they don't have the same rules.
Specifically speaking in this SP Hope, the 1st movement becomes Overture; the 2nd movement becomes the "real" first movement, but it's too short to be the 1st movement; the "3rd" (which is second from what we're talking about) movement is not the variation theme; the last movement does play a recap but it's the recap of the "4th" (3rd) movement, not the 1st, and is not transposed to another key.
So it's obvious that Symphonic Poem do not use rules of Symphony. But the fact that it's a branch of Programme Music, which is evolved from Symphony, always make me believe Symphonic Poem has to have some structures and rules. So does it or does it not?

Cheezeman3000 Mar 5, 2006 06:07 AM

Not sure about the symphonic poem thing, but this song alone makes me want to buy the soundtrack, I don't CARE if it's not even a part of the game! Heck as long as it's merely BASED on the theme from the game I still want it.
Holy crap. Amazing.

Tappy Mar 5, 2006 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
For those that already preordered it from Cocoabiz/VGMWorld, have they already deducted payment for the CD?

I guess it depends on which way of payment you choose!
I usually use Paypal and as far as I can remember from the last time I ordered at Cocoebiz/VGM World....you have to pay preordered items forward.
(the last time I ordered there was when the Rockman X box was first released...so that's a while ago)

This is the e-mail I got from them:

Thank you for ordering from VGMWorld.com. You'll receive your Order
Confirmation with payment info and the total within 48hrs during weekdays. If you will pay via PayPal, IPMO or Cash, please wait for the next email
to get the info. Thank you!

FOXDIE Mar 5, 2006 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tappy
I guess it depends on which way of payment you choose!
I usually use Paypal and as far as I can remember from the last time I ordered at Cocoebiz/VGM World....you have to pay preordered items forward.
(the last time I ordered there was when the Rockman X box was first released...so that's a while ago)

This is the e-mail I got from them:

Thank you for ordering from VGMWorld.com. You'll receive your Order
Confirmation with payment info and the total within 48hrs during weekdays. If you will pay via PayPal, IPMO or Cash, please wait for the next email
to get the info. Thank you!

If you choose Paypal, you need to pay right away for your pre-ordered items and that means you will be charged after sending the payment. That's why I would like to order it from cdjapan, they charge your credit card when your order ships and not a moment sooner.

Kinggi Mar 6, 2006 12:20 PM

Cant wait for this one. I really do hope Hitoshi comes through with this soundtrack.

Simo Mar 7, 2006 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOXDIE
If you choose Paypal, you need to pay right away for your pre-ordered items and that means you will be charged after sending the payment. That's why I would like to order it from cdjapan, they charge your credit card when your order ships and not a moment sooner.

Well that's unfortunate, for me anyways.

Fortunately Play-Asia are now taking preorders for the LE OST and while they're only charging an extra $3 with the same amount of shipping, they don't deduct payment until the item is in stock and ready to ship. :)

cubed Mar 7, 2006 10:29 AM

if money-is-deducted-when-the-item-ships is really that important to you, CDJapan.co.jp is now accepting preorders.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SVWC-7351

bishop743 Mar 7, 2006 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubed
if money-is-deducted-when-the-item-ships is really that important to you, CDJapan.co.jp is now accepting preorders.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SVWC-7351

That's great news. It's about time. Amazon shouldn't be too far behind now.

FOXDIE Mar 7, 2006 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
Well that's unfortunate, for me anyways.

Fortunately Play-Asia are now taking preorders for the LE OST and while they're only charging an extra $3 with the same amount of shipping, they don't deduct payment until the item is in stock and ready to ship. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cubed
if money-is-deducted-when-the-item-ships is really that important to you, CDJapan.co.jp is now accepting preorders.

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=SVWC-7351

Yes, if you do not want to be charged right now, you should try placing a pre-order on cdjapan. That's what I did. Of course, you will not be able to enter to the Sakimoto signed card contest... :(

Simo Mar 7, 2006 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOXDIE
Yes, if you do not want to be charged right now, you should try placing a pre-order on cdjapan. That's what I did. Of course, you will not be able to enter to the Sakimoto signed card contest... :(

That's fine. I think I'll go ahead and preorder it at Play-Asia. I would of gone with the original link but I don't have the funds in PayPal right now for the CD and at least this way I don't have to have payment ready until April 19th. :)

Godai Mar 7, 2006 10:08 PM

*twiddles thumbs waiting for amazon.co.jp*

Simo Mar 7, 2006 11:53 PM

Ok I've just preordered the OST at Play-Asia. :)

Hype+100. Famitsu already reviewed FFXII and gave it a perfect score.

shylph Mar 8, 2006 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
Ok I've just preordered the OST at Play-Asia. :)

Hype+100. Famitsu already reviewed FFXII and gave it a perfect score.

Really?It is the first time FF series got the perfect score.I order the BOX too.:guitarist:

Tappy Mar 8, 2006 12:47 AM

I got this message from Cocoebiz yesterday:
Thank you very much for your preorder on the Final Fantasy XII Original Soundtrack!
The release date on this item might be changed and we are still waiting for the fixed information for this
item. Due to this circumstance, we will postpone sending your Preorder Confirmation email with the
total cost of your order.

We will update your order as soon as we receive the newest information.
Thank you very much for your understanding and patience.


So it seems that the releasedate isn't certain yet! :/

Simo Mar 8, 2006 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tappy
I got this message from Cocoebiz yesterday:
Thank you very much for your preorder on the Final Fantasy XII Original Soundtrack!
The release date on this item might be changed and we are still waiting for the fixed information for this
item. Due to this circumstance, we will postpone sending your Preorder Confirmation email with the
total cost of your order.

We will update your order as soon as we receive the newest information.
Thank you very much for your understanding and patience.


So it seems that the releasedate isn't certain yet! :/

That's a bummer. Isn't Aniplex the distributor/publisher? They're still advertising it being released on April 19th:
http://www.aniplex.co.jp/FF12/

Tappy Mar 8, 2006 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
That's a bummer. Isn't Aniplex the distributor/publisher? They're still advertising it being released on April 19th:
http://www.aniplex.co.jp/FF12/

Releasedate's never say much!
Even when they seem to be official, they can still be delayed.
For instance....just look at the releasedate of the Kingdom Hearts 2 OST, which was supposed to be released in December (I believe) and was eventually released a month later!

It could also be that Cocoebiz didn't yet recieve the same info as other shops did (like CDJapan or Play-Asia).

Simo Mar 8, 2006 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tappy
Releasedate's never say much!
Even when they seem to be official, they can still be delayed.
For instance....just look at the releasedate of the Kingdom Hearts 2 OST, which was supposed to be released in December (I believe) and was eventually released a month later!

It could also be that Cocoebiz didn't yet recieve the same info as other shops did (like CDJapan or Play-Asia).

Well that's true. I was just trying to point out though that if the date had changed then surely the publisher would of removed the original date and info from their page, is all.

Hopefully the album is still on track and it's just a case of not enough info like you said.

Simo Mar 9, 2006 08:18 PM

It seems Amazon.co.jp now have the OST listed, at least it looks like that way:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/...915602-8402341

The CD set still seems on track for release on April 19th.

Apologies for the double post. I forgot the "Additional Post" feature isn't working right now.

Shoeless Mar 9, 2006 10:00 PM

Man I am so excited to hear this! This is Sakimoto's biggest and most involved work to date. He has never worked on a larger title. Although his work is suffering slightly with all the projects he is taking on (still better than 95% of other composers' work), I have confidence that he will deliver another haunting, dramatic score that will perfectly suit the game.

:edgartpg:

bishop743 Mar 9, 2006 11:44 PM

Yep. It's about to time Amazon JP finally jumped on board. I've been checking the site constantly for over a week now. It's about damn time. ::commences pre-ordering::

lassic Mar 9, 2006 11:59 PM

Anybody thinking of pre-ordering from amazon.co.jp might be interested in this one-time use¥500 off ¥5000 coupon code: BMVD5JPY5XXS (expires 3/30/06). Of course, you'll have to find something else to pad the order.

JazzFlight Mar 10, 2006 12:01 AM

Um, I'm a newbie to Amazon.co.jp ordering... how do you guys go about it, considering I'm based in America and everything on that page is in Japanese?

Or would you recommend a different vendor?

Essentially, I'm asking which is the cheapest and fastest?

Godai Mar 10, 2006 06:21 AM

Fastest is amazon. Shipping might be a tad higher than some places, but not by much (maybe 100 or 200 yen). You will most likely receive it on the release date (April 19th).

About ordering from there, on the corner of the page, there is a "Display in English" option, if you click that, things like preorder buttons should be displayed in english. When you actually set up an account, there's also an option on the page to display everything in English. There is an option for international addresses also. When asked for the furigana of your name, you can just put your name in again.

When you have your account set up, you can just go to the "Your Account" section, and it should look like this:

http://www.skylagoon.com/usr/godai/amazon.jpg

The red circled area is where it asks if you want this page displayed in Japanese. If the rest of the page was in Japanese, that option would be in English, asking if you wanted to display it in English, you'd just have to click there. Also, you can see the "Set Your Ordering Language Preference" option, once you take care of that, any future visits should be in English.

That about sums it up, I guess.

soulsteelgray Mar 10, 2006 06:06 PM

How much is the OST on Amazon.co.jp once you've figured in the shipping and all that? I plan to order it using a Simon Gift Card, so I need to know how much money to put on the card.

bishop743 Mar 10, 2006 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soulsteelgray
How much is the OST on Amazon.co.jp once you've figured in the shipping and all that? I plan to order it using a Simon Gift Card, so I need to know how much money to put on the card.

I ordered it there. The OST is 3,800 yen and I use International Express shipping which is 2,000 yen. So, it comes to a total of 5,800 yen, which is around $49.

Gameguardian Mar 10, 2006 07:01 PM

Hmm... Final Fantasy XII Limited Edition OST, sounds like love to me =)

Conqueso Mar 11, 2006 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simo
If samples are needed then I can go ahead and post a YSI of Tappy's rip of the demo as well as the gamemp3 release of "Symphonic Poem: Hope"?

I already have "Hope," but could you post that YSI? I seem to have lost track of it.

Tappy Mar 11, 2006 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conqueso
I already have "Hope," but could you post that YSI? I seem to have lost track of it.

Here's the demo gamerip!:

http://s40.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=20AIZ8XX8Y5EV0HMCUBT45S9HW

Simo Mar 15, 2006 01:53 AM

The soundtrack is out...Kind of.

It looks like Square-Enix is providing a "Best of Final Fantasy XII Original Soundtrack" on iTunes right now:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/music/sem/page/dl/

The downside? Seems to be Japan only. :(

lazuli Mar 16, 2006 12:22 AM

Hmm, I clicked the link and it got me to the Japanese iTunes store and I can listen to the samples...presumably you could buy them, I dunno.

Simo Mar 16, 2006 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazuli
Hmm, I clicked the link and it got me to the Japanese iTunes store and I can listen to the samples...presumably you could buy them, I dunno.

Yeah you can. Also some when you purchase the Japanese version of the game instore you get an iTunes card that allows you to download 5 of the 11 tracks for free. I uploaded the first 5 to Tappy's FTP and a YSI link in the FFXII thread here:
http://www.gamingforce.com/forums/sh...8143#post38143

Not sure how long the YSI so hopefully Tappy will throw it up for everyone tomorrow.

garthvadr3 Mar 17, 2006 02:02 PM

is this the full soundtrack?

RYU Mar 17, 2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garthvadr3
is this the full soundtrack?

nope,is only best music play on the game

Lipid Mar 17, 2006 05:14 PM

Awesome price for what should be a non-dissappointing OST set.

Kaleb.G Mar 17, 2006 05:43 PM

Just thought I'd give a heads up on the FFXII PSF2 rip done by oddigy/tz, which was originally mentioned in THIS thread.

http://oddigytitanium.com/psf/psfpsf...0XII%20WIP.rar

It's marked as a "WIP" (work in progress) because the tracks still need to be completely timed and tagged, and I think there are some duplicates in there as well. Nevertheless, this is a lot of FFXII music.

Please make sure you read the rules at the bottom of the main page before downloading.

You can get the PSF/PSF2 plugin for Winamp here:
http://www.neillcorlett.com/he/

Shoeless Mar 19, 2006 12:15 AM

The silence is deafening.

Does this mean that everyone is underwhelmed as I am about what they heard on the whole in the psf2 soundtrack? I'm a Sakimoto fanboy, yet I couldn't help but think that I've heard it all before. To say I am disappointed would be an understatement. I don't think it is a bad soundtrack, but I'm forced to admit I think even FFVIII and FFX had stronger soundtracks on the whole. It can't even touch the classic soundtracks of FFIIIj-VII.

Spinal Tap Mar 19, 2006 12:41 AM

I like it a lot, and think it's Sakimoto's best yet.
This is probably the best FF music since FF9 (it also sounds a lot like that game's music in a lot of cases... track 023 sounds exactly like the Black Waltz theme for example), and can't wait to hear these tracks in proper MP3 quality.
I think there's a good balance between Sakimoto's dark sound (Vagrant Story) and light sound (FFTA, some of FFT) on this, and on average it's the best stuff he's ever done.
One of my favorites (and one of the five I actually know the name of) is the Archadia Empire's theme, which is a recurring theme in a lot of the tracks. (sort of like this game's "Hymn Of The Fayth", except a lot better... it's probably one of my favorite bad guy themes ever)
I also like how a lot of the tracks seem to have been composed with the cutscenes in mind... you can pretty much tell when something drastic will happen or when the mood changes just by listening to the music, which leads me to believe that this will be the most fitting FF music ever.
Take track 074 for example... I've seen an FMV in which it plays.
It progresses perfectly with the different happenings in the scene, like when an airship fires its cannon, when Vaan gets cornered, when Vaan and Balthier jump off a balcony, etc. (those aren't spoilers, I'm not specific enough for them to be)
If this stuff is representative of the real OST, I'll give it a 9.5/10.

PiccoloNamek Mar 19, 2006 12:43 AM

I haven't time to listen to the whole thing yet, but the songs that are good are really good, and the songs that aren't as good are still great, IMO. My favorite by far is East Dalmasca Desert. What a masterpiece. If I had to pick only 5 songs to listen to for the rest of my life, it would be one of them. Phon (sp?) Coast and the jungle-sounding dungeon theme are also instant favorites for me.

I could certainly grow to love this soundtrack. It will just take some time. I didn't like the Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story, or BOF-V soundtracks when I first heard them, but now I adore them. It took me more than a year to truly learn to appericiate them.

Edit: [i] and [/b]? What the hell was I thinking?

Dallista Mar 19, 2006 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shoeless
The silence is deafening.

Does this mean that everyone is underwhelmed as I am

No. Just means that the link to the download was taken down before I (and I presume others) could get to it. Hard to comment if you have nothing to listen to. ;)

Dr. Uzuki Mar 19, 2006 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallista
No. Just means that the link to the download was taken down before I (and I presume others) could get to it. Hard to comment if you have nothing to listen to. ;)

Was it?

http://s5.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1N...02LHUTTRVCEJDX

Figured I should share seeing how a lot of people are probably drooling over this and I have it and haven't even touched it yet. Enjoy!

Dallista Mar 19, 2006 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki
Was it?

Oh yes... something about 70 GB or so downloaded, *LOL*
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Figured I should share seeing how a lot of people are probably drooling over this and I have it and haven't even touched it yet. Enjoy!
:superhappy: Thanks, I'll try and give it a good listen!

Dr. Uzuki Mar 19, 2006 05:15 AM

Hey, no problem.

Here are my early impressions. Through the first 26 tracks so far and just about all of what I've heard, very beauteous. Sometimes absolutely gorgeous. Unfortunately, it's also very... I want to say nondescript, but there has to be a better word. Many of the tracks have form but I haven't heard a single thing yet that's stuck with me. I know it's Sakimoto, but more strength and focus and less fluctuation. That's what I'm missing so far. The vibe I'm getting from it so far is slightly above serviceable with something outstanding here and there. 7 out of 10 range. It's no VS or BoFDQ.

edit: <3 Track 030.

Dallista Mar 19, 2006 07:48 AM

Listened to about 1/3 of the tracks so far, and my thoughts are that the music is very reminiscent of FF Tactics... but I'm not really sure if it's the right sort of style for an RPG. It's lovely music, certainly, but none of it so far is what I'd call memorable. Memorable, as in, I can take a ride on my bike, think of a game, and start whistling some of the tunes. Of cours, some songs will become more stuck in my mind when I've heard them a couple of times more, but that's not just it. A lot of Sakimoto's music just sounds a bit too similar. Probably okay pieces for large dungeons, good background music, but nothing that comes to the front and shouts "Here I am, character theme song, hear me, remember me!"

I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing; it's just a very different style than most traditional RPG OSTs, but for me it'll be hard to think of this as RPG music. I'll have to play the game to fully appreciate these songs. It was the same with FF Tactics (+ Advance) for me, and I never actually managed to care for the Vagrant Story OST (probably because I never got further than half an hour into the game).

Some uses of the instruments just feel wrong. At times Sakimoto uses instruments where I think the music would've sounded better with slightly less instrusive sounds from 'softer' instruments instead of brass and percussion. At other times I really wish I could break that flute and some of those strings in two. Also, I get the feeling he really restricted himself to the kind of instruments he included in these compositions. Would it really harm to have, say, a piano play a bit of music sometime? Or get rid of all those layers of instruments, just use one instrument to play a melody. Music doesn't require ten instruments to sound good. That flute would do fine on its own sometime without all that backing.

Anyone remember the Legaia Duel SaGa OST? I'd been hoping that Sakimoto would use more of those styles (and use of instruments), but I guess that's not to be.

I don't want to sound too negative. I am enjoying hearing these songs, and a couple of pieces do rather stand out in terms of melody. But the majority of the songs, I probably won't be able to appreciate fully until I've played the game. As music for the game, this is probably really good. As stand-alone music... I'm not convinced yet.

020 & 047 are my favorites so far. They sound like they'd make decent music for battles. :)

edited to add: whoops, just saw the discussion about the music over at the other thread. Me bad.

Spinal Tap Mar 19, 2006 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallista
As music for the game, this is probably really good. As stand-alone music... I'm not convinced yet.

And I'm happy for it.
Imo, the primary objective of the music in an epic, movie-like game as FF12 is to set the scene for the events in the game, and this music does a great job at that.
I think that's a problem of FF10, which had similar awesome cinematics (though FF12 does it a lot better), but in which the music didn't nearly fit as well with the scenes as it does in this game.
And there are far better battle tracks than 047 (one of the few tracks which I personally can't stand), such as 069, 051, 091, 036, 057, 070, and others.

Dallista Mar 19, 2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinal Tap
Imo, the primary objective of the music in an epic, movie-like game as FF12 is to set the scene for the events in the game, and this music does a great job at that.

Yes, I see what you mean. I watched a couple of videos of FF XII this afternoon, and I understand how this style may fit the scenes better. They are clearly different from the other FF single-player RPGs, more 'vast', if that's the right word.
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I think that's a problem of FF10, which had similar awesome cinematics, but in which the music didn't nearly fit as well with the scenes as it does in this game.
It felt fine to me, but then, I'm not much of a FF music critic (even liked FF X-2!). I'm not going to give FF XII a bad mark, either. It sounds decent enough, except for some gripes I have about the sound itself (which might change with the release of the actual OST).
Like I said, I just find it difficult to really appreciate Sakimoto's usual style without having played the game. I severely disliked the Tactics Advance OST... until I played the game, and now I love it. I have no reason to assume this time around it'll be any different. :)
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And there are far better battle tracks than 047 (one of the few tracks which I personally can't stand), such as 069, 051, 091, 036, 057, 070, and others.
Yes, well... I'll get back to you on that when I've had a chance to actually give the whole soundtrack a proper listen (meaning a bunch of times, *LOL*). Until I've played the game, though, I probably won't put any of his battle themes on a pedestal...
I know there's a very clear pattern here, and I cannot change that. Sakimoto is just about the only VGM composer who requires me to play the actual game to be able to really like his music. His work on Legaia DuelSaga is the only exception (it just feels more stand-alone).
To me, his music needs to be *experienced*. It's no comment on the good or bad of his compositions or his skills, it's just something that's become abundantly clear to me today.

BTW Just heard the chocobo theme. Cuteness.

Cobalt Katze Mar 19, 2006 12:16 PM

PSF2 rip vs. iTunes Sample
 
After listening to a good chunk of the ripped tracks, and then the tracks that were downloaded from the iTunes offer... I'm suspecting there's something going on between the raw file and the engine output.

For example, take Panelo's Theme. The difference between the rip and the soundtrack version is pretty extreme. The main differences I'm spotting: extra phrase in the beginning that doesn't exist in the rip, additional reverb and placement, overall mix, and eq.

Attached is a lil mp3 crossfade comparison I did to show the differences. 0:00-0:09 PSF2, 0:09-0:19 MP3, 0:19-0:26 PSF2, 0:26-0:34 MP3, 0:34 to fadeout PSF2.

So, taking that into account, I'm refraining from listening to the rest until I get my hands on the physical soundtrack :) And then eventually once it's ingame in November :doh:

Toma Mar 19, 2006 06:50 PM

Dallista, you nailed it with both of your posts. Though I heard (and enjoyed) many tracks from games like Vagrant Story and Tactics Ogre, it wasn't until I played the games themselves that I really appreciated them. HS is definitely one of the more cinematic game composers to come out of Japan. I haven't listened to too much of FFXII, but it seems to have the same characteristics. Good music, but I need some context to totally dig it. Even knowing the track titles would help to know what he had in mind.

eriol33 Mar 21, 2006 12:31 PM

I missed the rip. anyone could upload them somewhere else? I'm really curious for the OST. but then, I guess it will be okay if I wait oddigy upload them after they are tagged and timed.

Kaleb.G Mar 21, 2006 01:35 PM

eriol, I'll send you a link via PM in 10 minutes.

Anyway, I don't think anyone should take the sound quality of the PSF2 rip to be representative of the published soundtrack. I'm merely using the PSF2 rip as a "preview" to determine if I want to purchase this LE OST.

eriol33 Mar 21, 2006 07:12 PM

Thx a lot for the link Kaleb. Gonna grab it now :)

Limerick Mar 22, 2006 07:50 PM

Okay, well, I have 1131GB of bandwidth left this month, so I was wondering if someone here would be kind enough to help me get the file so I could mirror it for the rest of the month. (Maybe longer depending on how much bandwidth I actually see being used.) Anyways, thanks for reading!

Updated:

Okay, thanks a lot to Kaleb who provided the link and to Oddigy who ripped it originally:

Link removed, though it will still be available, if you want it just ask.

Mr. X Mar 23, 2006 01:57 AM

Big news: The soundtrack has been delayed till May 31, 2006. Very disappointing.

On a lighter note, the LE will come with a 28 page booklet, pictures of the Judge, and pictures of a disc, while the soundtrack will include Kiss Me Good-Bye (English Version) and Symphonic Poem "Hope".

Still, bah...

B4-Hunter Mar 23, 2006 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
Big news: The soundtrack has been delayed till May 31, 2006. Very disappointing.

On a lighter note, the LE will come with a 28 page booklet, pictures of the Judge, and pictures of a disc, while the soundtrack will include Kiss Me Good-Bye (English Version) and Symphonic Poem "Hope".

Still, bah...

BiG Bad news =( How could they!!

bishop743 Mar 23, 2006 07:48 AM

I'm not as upset as most will be about the soundtrack's delay. March/April was getting pretty cluttered with a lot of purchases for me. Right now, for May, all I am lookig to get is the Okami Audio Collection, so this delay will give m a chance to space things out a bit. We've waited 4 years people, an extra month won't hurt too bad.

Raijin Mar 23, 2006 07:55 AM

Whoa that's a pretty big delay! :o

Maybe a fifth disc, heh? :p

Kaleb.G Mar 23, 2006 12:29 PM

Um, I don't know what they'd put on a fifth disc, considering all the music is complete.

I'm glad to hear confirmation of Symphonic Poem "Hope" in here.

Until late May, I'll be listening to the PSF2 rip. ;)

Mr. X Mar 23, 2006 03:23 PM

Given that Sakimoto supposedly created 120-130 tracks yet only 100 feature on the OST (some of which aren't used in the game), there might be some left-overs that don't feature on the album. It'll be interesting to see if the unused versions of the Chocobo and Main Theme that featured on the iTunes soundtrack are released on the main OST.

Bobbin Threadba Mar 24, 2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
Big news: The soundtrack has been delayed till May 31, 2006. Very disappointing.

On a lighter note, the LE will come with a 28 page booklet, pictures of the Judge, and pictures of a disc, while the soundtrack will include Kiss Me Good-Bye (English Version) and Symphonic Poem "Hope".

Still, bah...

yeah... CDJapan gives me the notification about the delay. Really sad...

Anyway, what do you mean by saying that the soundtrack will include the english version of KMG and "Hope"? 'cause I already bought those singles and thought that I might be ripped buying those cds.

Kaleb.G Mar 24, 2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
Given that Sakimoto supposedly created 120-130 tracks

Funny, there don't seem to be nearly that many tracks on the PSF2 set. I don't imagine many tracks would be streaming either.

Mr. X Mar 24, 2006 02:19 PM

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Funny, there don't seem to be nearly that many tracks on the PSF2 set. I don't imagine many tracks would be streaming either.
I found the 120-130 track thing from a summary of a Sakimoto interview (didn't see the interview in full). Perhaps some of them didn't make the final cut, as the PSF2 set seems pretty complete to me. I note that there is more than 100 tracks there though, Symphonic Poem "Hope" and Angela Aki's single not included...

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Anyway, what do you mean by saying that the soundtrack will include the english version of KMG and "Hope"? 'cause I already bought those singles and thought that I might be ripped buying those cds.
Unfortunately, you've been ripped in a way, especially if you don't consider the other Angela Aki songs worth the purchase. I don't often purchase singles myself, given this is almost always the case. Sorry that you may wasted some money.

Zanasea Mar 24, 2006 02:40 PM

"Santa Fé" is a great song, isn't it?


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