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What is a furry?
Yeah, what is it? So I've read different things about it online but I still haven't grasped what it really is all about, besides from people dressing up in animal costumes and there being a lot of hentai of it. Is it just some sexual fetish, lifestyle or what is it? Do these people think of themselves as animals or what, and have the need of dressing up in furs or whatever? Is there some kind of ideology/belief behind all this? Are there different kinds of furries? There are some furries around here right, who can give me some answers on this?
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In general, furries are people who fail at being human.
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A miserable little pile of delusions.
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Sometimes it's the "second skin", sometimes it's the "ideal" silhouet of the animal that arouses people. Not all of these people see themselves as an animal. It's rather, liking to be dominated by an animal or to dominate an animal themselves.
People who dress like an animal, I think, have the urge of "arousement" applicable to the "second skin" theory. |
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Anyways I've pretty much heard that they fail at life etc. or whatever already a thousand times so I was thinking maybe someone could tell me what it is that all these people get get so irritated at all these furries. I mean, there are lots of more weird fetishes (or whatever it is) out there that people could be picking on instead? |
Temari's RA is a furry... She made a journal entry with pics of him a few weeks ago. I don't know dick about them, but If I were to guess, they just love animals, and want to devolve and be them mentally. Some only do it during sex, but some have parties and social gatherings, and some literally spend the entirety of their days wearing the costume. I dunno, it's one of those unexplainable phenomena that you really can't probe the source about, since nine times out of ten they'll say "what costume?" when asked about it.
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One who is unshaven, obviously.
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From my experience and point of view, I see the furry fandom as something to be used as a means of escaping real life, and living in your own paradise. It's generally regarded that the Disney version of Robin Hood, made in the late seventies, is the first 'furry' movie and what might have started it all. Don't quote me on that though, I'm not entirely sure myself, especially since Disney made furry movies before that (ie Bambi and Lady and the Tramp).
I don't dress up in a costume, and I probably never will for that matter; that's just embarrassing. While I'm especially fond of furry artwork, I don't like the porn as much as the clean art, because one, the furries that draw porn aren't really good at it, since they likely haven't studied the human/animal anatomy enough, two, most furry porn just isn't satisfying enough for me (ARTISTICALLY. Not the other kind of satisfying) and three, the artists that CAN draw evidently don't focus on porno at all. I don't necessarily have an "inner animal", nor do I have a "fursona" on the web. Hell, I don't even browse furry porn sites on a regular basis, I only do that maybe once or twice a month if I remember, since I'm almost always busy with other things. But I think the reason why non-furries hate the fandom so much is because of the fact that most of it focuses on the porno, and because most of the furries can't keep it to themselves (animal phrases like "marf", "woof", whatever, offensive avatars/signatures, publically announcing that something pleasured them, etc.). I really can't speak for most of the fandom and what they do, because really, I don't know what they think and I haven't really researched that deep into it, hence why I'm only talking from my stance. Somehow I can see this eventually being moved to the Sewers. |
Marf!? What the fuck animal says fucking marf?
The thing that offends me most about furries is their bull-headed insistence on shoving "fur" into as many words as possible. Whenever I hear fursona or fursecution or anything else like that I just want to break faces. |
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This image pretty much sums up the fandom as a whole. There are people that are in it because they think their inner spirit is an animal/were one in another life, people who are in it for the porn, people who are in it to find others like themselves, and various other reasons. As a side note, most of the ones on GFF* (Kairyu, Miles, Basil, SS, SimDaddy, etc) are really, really tame compared to a lot of furries you'd find on the internet, and believe you me, I've seen some retarded ass furries. *Sparkster and Foxy are excluded from this list because they're stupid. Also, I'm only in it for the art/porn. |
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KalebG is also a fan of furry art, is he not? Perhaps he can shed some light on this matter?
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a lurker also loves furry art, I'll see what she has to say.
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I do love furry art. I call it atrocity tourism.
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Pretty much what Tails said. Srsly though, I think all this bullshit about people picking on 'em is because... well, a lot of furries ARE mildly retarded and take the trollbait every single time. Hell, if somebody goes all "lol furfag" to me, I troll them right back and we go on our merry way (srsly, one time to fuck around with my friend who was helping me via remote desktop assistance, I pulled up this weird-ass Glenn pic. His surprised and dismayed scream was like a balm for the soul). Somebody goes "lol furfag" to... say, that hella creepy-ass idiot who got banned from SomethingAwful's forums a long while back (and thank GOD I can't remember his name), they bust into tears and drop a drama bomb.
Also, I'm surprised that this topic was neither made in the Sewers nor immediately moved into the Sewers. And WTF is with the COLORS on that pic, lurker? It's like somebody decided to draw an dog with bug-eyes and accidentally saved over it when they inverted the colors. your avatar is strangely hypnotic the more you star at it. |
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What I dont understand is...why is it you need a character or rather a fursona to meet new people or like-minded folks? I've dabbled in the furry community recently, and I personally find it to be a dramafest. But I just dont get why people need to find others through a scene that deals with anthropomorphic beings. I mean, doesnt that mean you find it interesting or cool or dare I say arousing that you're into that? I dont ask that question with looking down at you, im merely curious. |
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As for the interesting/arousing part, sexual fetish, etc. As for the clean stuff, what can I say, I'm an animal lover. :( |
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That said, you don't need your own fictional character to meet a person with similar interests. That's like saying you can't hop in a gaming forum without at least showing up with a videogame of some kind. Though, it won't hurt since that may be one the first things that are brought up. |
I heard miles's fursona is a green Baloo the Bear with a thirty foot plaid cock, can anyone confirm?
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If only Kai could drive like he can draw, now that'd be something.
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I'm getting better! I'm now able to avoid small trees and my teammates =D
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I'm pretty much into it for the art, and not really much else.
One thing I never did understand though was why most of the furry porn out there is drawn better than some of the normal stuff out there. <_< I just don't get people who take the furry thing too far though. |
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See, there you go. Infernal understands everything.
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I never did get why Infernal was not a part of the Furries group at GFWiki.
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That sure is a mystery.
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I dunno, Infernal's love for all things RENAMAWN make him seem pretty suspicious...
Actually the real reason is because nobody has added him yet. I'd be lying if I said he wasn't one. |
After reading through this thread, I have a list of keywords I feel highlight this topic:
Animal, Dramafest, Need, Delusions, Porn, Miserable, Secrets, Porn, Retarded, Dominated, Fail, Porn, Fetish, Art, Sex, Escape, Disney, Furfag, Porn. I hope this is helpful for any newcomers that have the question posed in their minds, "What is a furry?" but just want to skim over the rest of this. thread. |
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Ahahahaha, fuck Infernal. Why do you hurt my sides so.
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I preface this statement by offering up my personal bias:
[18:40] <Denicalis> God fucking damnit. I actually hate furries a little less since I learned about Otakukin. But only a little. Now, what are furries? There's a ton of different types of furries, but let's focus on the furries that everyone on the internet hates (with good reason). These are the miserable little sodomites with a martyr complex. They use words like "murr," "fursecution," "fursona" and "misunfurstood." Now, why do people hate these people? Because they're fucking stupid. They assume that people hate them because they're furries. Which isn't true. People hate them because they're trying to force their niche little kinks down other people's throats. Someone who kept repeatedly feeling the need to bring every conversation back to a love of bondage would get the same treatment. These furries can't interact in the real world. They've let the fantasy become a crutch and they're completely unable to talk to normal people. They are social misfits and -that's- why we hate them. And we do. God do we ever. If it were people who just said "I like fucking people while wearing a costume" sure, we'd make light... but we wouldn't loathe them. Most people who just like the art, not a problem... but if everything you like or talk about has to somehow get back to furry shit (Looking at you, Freelance) people will hate you. Because you're boring, and you have a martyr complex, and you're very, very dull. |
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Just because animals are personified as people doesn't make it a piece of the furry community. Don't you dare try to take Redwall or Watership Down away from me. |
Okay, the real reason I hate furries.
Tails will recognize this guy. video games, lotion, honey An evolution of sleep 1 2 3 more information, including a crack that goes up half his back and his fursona, a female pixie-kitsune This is the point when I started to have an opinion on furries, and that opinion was Hate. |
Why am I frightened when I wonder what could be in the "Fox Box" in your second picture.
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I do however agree with the non-usage of the word "furry" to describe them. It's not like that was their target audience, more along the lines of that is the group that attached to them more than anyone else. |
I think RR's point is less about the intent of the creators, and more about how liking Ninja Turtles and Robin Hood doesn't make you a furry. So furries need to stop trying to tell everyone that liking anthropomorphic cartoon ________ makes you as much of a whiny cunt as they are.
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Did you even read the second half of my post. I got what RR said just fine.
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On another note, if you wana know more about furries. WikiFur Furry Central - WikiFur, the furry encyclopedia I personally like it for the art. Most as Tails said are completely stupid, most of them are childish and morronic sex crazed individuals that cant lead a normal healthy life. Anna Meets the Furries pt 1 Anna Meets the Furries pt 2 Anna Meets the Furries pt 3 This i find a bit creepy, especially the guy that alters his face. and even more beautiful look into why i cant stand most furries MORRON of a fur at my School And in case people missed him saying it Kanye West is a furry, he has performed in his bear suit before |
I never understood the people that wanted to wear fursuits and act like they're animals. The people who look at porn of furry characters I understand. I'd see it as kind of an exotic thing, it's not a normal character and that makes it feel special. Kinda like a character like say She Hulk, she has green skin and I think she's hot. Does that mean I wish I had green skin? No that doesn't make any sense and would make it not exotic anymore.
I think the weirder furries ruin things for the some of the others because alot of people just assume they're ALL that bad. |
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To prove, for once and for all, that some furfags take it waaaaaaay beyond the boundaries of all that is sacred and decent in this world, I present the following:
(lurker, I think you know what's approaching.) Direct from Yiffburg The fact that this shit not only exists but has apparently existed long enough to develop some form of canon is absolutely unforgivable. Let all those still wondering take notice: THIS ABOMINATION IS EXACTLY WHY THE WORLD HATES FURRIES. |
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And yeah, I'm mostly into it because of the art and the fact that I love animals and animal cartoon characters. I often have some sort of animal cartoon character as my avatar, whether it be a fox or a raccoon (my two favorite animals) and sometimes I'll make random furry comments just to annoy people but other than that I am seriously far from their level. I don't make animal noises and I'm not 500 pounds. I'm not gay and I would never go to one of those furry meets unless I was paid a large sum of money to do so. |
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I'm in it for the art. That's all. Just grab it and go, no sticking around for the fursona/fursuit/inner fox/drama bullshit.
And I'm not socially crippled or overweight either. When furries get mocked, I laugh right along, because most of them deserve it. |
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Of course from the outside it looks ridiculous but I'm guessing from the inside it's pretty awesome.
I guess that goes for most strange fetish groups (or, I suppose for less heavy-handed types, "special interest" groups). I can't help but be very disturbed by furries though but I usually keep that to myself. I must admit, though, the fox and the fox-tail are very sporty. |
Okay, I think I am really starting to understand this shit now :tpg: That documentary Anna meets the furries was damn creepy. I had thought it furst was just a harmful fet OH FUCK IT'S STICKING TO ME OH MY GOD :gonk:
Gawd, I just wrote furst instead of first unintentionally and I'm dead serious. Kill me before it's too late :gonkmelt: noooooooooooooooooooo |
I like how the dude bunny rescued the chick bunny with his powerful ejaculation. Eat it, MacGuyver!
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he has sex with his wife in the comic. his mother-in-law has watched them, in the comic, and touched herself to it. the wife and mother-in-law both know about this comic and apparently approve of it. I tried looking for the relevant links but i had to turn back, it was too much for me. |
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By then his father had also given the OK to the comic. :gonk: And he did that by banging the author's mother in law. :gonk: While the writer and his wife watched. :gonk: And did each other. :gonk: |
Imagine the anime fandom, if there was no line drawn between conventional anime and hentai, and no distinctions made between the sub-genres. Anime means mecha, tentacle rape, Pokemon, and wierd incest porn all at once, and being a part of the fandom for one aspect means you're implicitly associating yourself with all of it, especially the fucked up shit like lolicon that will get you shunned from polite society in a heartbeat. That's pretty much the state furry is in.
Part of that problem is the saying I heard once: Furry is the one fandom where you cannot get kicked out. There is NOTHING you can do that will get you disowned by your peers, except maybe disrespecting the almighty "copyright". |
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Hahaha, I have a handful of furry friends and they seem like fine. It depends on the individual, but most of them are just like everyone else. Of course, it's kool2hate on things like this, so I can see why people dislike them. Or, oh god, maybe someone's had a personal encounter and that means all furries suck. I'm sure there's some definition that defines the gap between someone liking furry art and someone liking the whole furry concept as a fetish (re: suits) but ehh whatever. Quote:
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You know, I always thought 'furdom' couldn't be that bad and all, but then I took the time to watch those youtube videos that were posted by aku. That little fur conference was weird, that cat dude is hella creepy too, and I can just imagine what it would feel like to be licked by a bunch of fat nerds. Of all the things I've seen on the internet. . . . . this . . . . just . . . . . . ugg . . . . . . Seriously, this is really creepy. I think I'm going to go be sanitized in an autoclave now . . . . . . Gross. I feel violated. etc. . . |
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I thought that was Qube, not Rat.
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Note to self: Watching those Anna videos during breakfast was a bad idea. :gonk:
In general, I don't understand furries, but I'm not necessarily revolted by them either. I only really get repulsed by furries when their obsessions get to an unhealthy level, and when their main defining characteristic is their fursona, and nothing else. Those people in those videos are very good examples of that. And that's the same for everything else, really. If, say, some teenager likes Mandy Moore enough to listen to listen to her music and maybe have a poster or two on his wall, that's not so unusual. However, if this kid likes to dress up as Mandy Moore, and, I dunno, meet up with Moore fans in real life, jump into writhing "Moore-piles" dressed in Moore suits while yelling "IMMA DOCKING IN YOUR MOORE~" -- well, yeah, I'd staaaayyyy awayyyyyy from the kid. Same goes for furries. If a person enjoys furry art, has some animal he really like, that's perfectly fine! But if the furriness is the defining obsession of his life, and his behavior reflects it, that's when I'll start thinking of him as one of the weird ones. |
I just watched those videos that aku posted and I had no idea that "furry" also included people like that. I just thought furries were people who liked furry art and got off to furry porn and the like. It seems my naivety has gotten the better of me again. I did know about Stalking Cat, though, as I'd seen him on television before. I find it a bit of injustice on his part, though, that the woman never mentions once in the documentary (from what I heard) that his "transformation" comes from some tradition of his Native American ancestors. The guy still seems weird but he at least deserves all of his story told.
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Just watched that BBC documentary and, holy shit, although there's nothing new and earth-shattering there, it doesn't stop me from being weirded the FUCK out by these people. I'm all for the freedom to pursue an alternative lifestyle or what have you, but I'm just filled with overwhelming pity for these people.
Go ahead and beat off to as many toons as you please - just keep your fucking fursuit frolicking under wraps. aaaaaaahhhh |
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Now, couple that with trying to force the weird, niche sex shit on the public and be "accepted" for it? No, go fuck yourself. You have sex fetishes great, but don't expect people to hug you and say it's ok. |
Once people say "yiff" or "scritch" or make kitty-cat noises or "glomp" someone or any of that bullshit, it's time for a public flaming. Online or in real-life.
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Most of the furs I know, I unfortunately know them from all variety, aren't that bad.
I have spoken with TygerCowboy before(yes the one from the video, and no I have never met him). I have also spoken with more sane furs that are just in it for the art and/or spiritual reason. I have met several Wicca that are furries, because they feel it helps them spiritually. For most in the fandom, choosing a fursona is kinda like choosing an avatar for them selves. Some choose an animal they feel a 'connection' with, one that fits with their personality, some do it because in the fandom different animals represent some thing of a sexual preference. There are tons of reasons people choose their fursona, but is an avatar or a proxy for them selves basically. Thats why you will find so many furs on Second Life and other programs like it, because they can make their fursona their character. One major issue that seems to plague the furs i have spoken with is they are social idiots. They can not function correctly in a normal life. They dont know how to manage a job, nor do they try to get an real education. But then again, I also know a few furs that own their own businesses and are doctors and such. but I would say the former is more true than the latter. Most of the ones in the former group are the sexcrazed, obsessive people that are in the videos. Because the ones that are doctors and such have lives beyond furry, and are a bit more level headed about real life. |
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This had a major hand in forming my incredibly biased view of furries. I only understand half this shit from a long time wasted reading ED articles. All I see the subculture as is an outlet for bored, pathetic, unattractive people who find friends through being utterly off the wall. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions. I have no problem with anthro art. That, however, doesn't seem to be the majority. |
My question is, why animals. Can't they pretend to be something slightly less embarassing when they attempt to hide their social ineptitude.
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The biggest problem with trying to mention "furries" on the Internets is that the Internets is, by this point, pretty much drunk on its own kool-aid of memes, fads, slang, and a massive filter that is designed to distort everything on it for the amusement of the Internets. Going and finding Youtube videos of people being stupid or trying to make "comedy gold" is not exactly an objective take on reality.
The reality with furries is that by any realistic standard, they're /geeks/. Their particular geeky fixation is anthropomorphic animals. The irony of furries being popular for gamer geek and computer geek culture to pick on, is that by the lights of the rest of culture, gamer and computer geeks are often see as "losers who fail at life" precisely because they "don't act, behave, have the manners, or interests" of "the rest of us, who are the NORMAL ones". I've been involved or around furry (and other, such as anime) fandom for a number of years. I've met a lot of people who have issues. Being objective however, I've met just as many people who have issues among Linux geeks, gamers, anime fans, and what have you. People who think they're "normal" and mainstream have just as many issues a lot of the time, that are more easily covered up by those issues blending in to mainstream society. Furries do however, stand out because their particular gimmick is especially easy to notice. This does also make it easier for furries who have issues to make more dramatic displays with themselves. It /also/ makes it easier for everyone else to create simple stereotypes and slap them on everyone they possibly can. Having said all that however, my experience has shown me it is also pretty true that "Internet Furries" do have a higher instance of living up to stereotypes, and that online furry culture is often a wriggling mass of bizarre fandom politics and drama. The problem there, again, is that it's the Internets. Put somebody on the Internet and give them an audience, and every bit of social conditioning that makes them behave in front of real live people flies out the window. For those who actually might be curious about all this wackiness, here's another secret of furry subculture: there's quite a split between "internet" and "real life" furries in many regions. Tons of furries have little to do with the online furry crowd and stay away like the plague. Tons of online furry fans don't even realize that the other kinds of furries exist, and this is one reason why you'll find strange, bizarre statements and explanations of what the whole thing is about in many online quarters. It's interesting to watch the media's reaction to furry fandom continue to evolve for instance, as furries don't just run away after a few MTV specials. Over the last couple of years there have been more reporters attending furry conventions to see what the "controversy" is about. What has happened is that the reporters have had to go home mostly empty handed, having found a bunch of shockingly normal geeks who are almost indistinguishable from any other group of geeks and fans. Even the costumers, fursuiters, cosplayers, LARPers, and the like, have a regretable tendency to just not be, in person, what the Internet would prefer for its idle amusement. Yes, even with teh pr0n lurking in the corners. Additional Spam: Quote:
Anything can be made to seem stupid, foolish, or lame, and embarrassing. Sometimes, I think what really pisses certain people off, is seeing somebody happily doing or being something the viewer is embarrassed by personally. It's like a challenge to the onlookers security. I remember knowing a guy who was embarrassed whenever cartoons - any cartoons - were playing on a TV in the room. He thought all cartoons were idiotic and for 5 year old children. He further felt that just by being nearby a cartoon, he would be associated with them and thus seen as "immature". |
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Aside from that little bit of head-up-your-own-assery, you did a decent job of summing up what everyone else had already said. It is not furries, but a specific group of furries that are the reason most people hate them. However, I do think you're doing your best to obfuscate the point that there are underlying aspects to furry culture that make them easily despised in the public eye. I'd guess it's because, as you said, you have a lot of friends who would self-identify as furries, and possibly would yourself--or perhaps you'd say otherkin, or otakukin or whatever rubbish you prescribe to--and don't wish to slag on the community as a whole. And that's fine. Maybe you have some close friends that are completely normal and like to dress up like animals, or even just like the art. No one is saying furries can't be good people, we're saying that furry culture, inherently, has some pretty overwhelming undercurrents of what-the-fuck going through it. I.E. the martyr complex and the drama that follows them. At the heart, what's been said is this: Like fucked up shit that no one else will care about. That's great. But don't expect hugs and candy for your troubles. |
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I think you're quite right in that people feel uncomfortable around others who are engaging in embarassing acts. You'll find that it's human nature to seek privacy when doing embarassing things - taking a shit is a good example. I understand that someone like you would feel that it's a challenge to mainstream society to embarass people around you, but why do you feel this is appropriate? Additionally, to what ends do you see that furry behavior becomes inappropriate? Additionally I feel that it's important to point out how you chose computer-relating topics as topics of nerditry. There are many nerds for cars, more than there are nerds for Linux, but yet I don't tend to see furries ever claim that sort of hobby. Culinary arts, travelling, carpentry, I see so few furries take on those topics of interest. Why do you suppose that is? |
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The internet breeds furries the same way it breeds otaku, total fuckwads, and zeal clones. It turns socially isolated but relatively normal geeks into raging assholes and gives those of us who've grown out of it something to laugh at. And if you can't laugh at how stupid you were when you were 15, what can you? |
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The ones who *don't*, though, are less likely to be singled out, and may not even be labeled as Furries at all! Because of this, only the worst of the group are represented at any given time. When I say "worst", I mean the ones who have used the blueprints of society as how *not* to live, and have basically given up any human desire in favor of the ones the group-mind dictates. In short, in their attempts to become more individual, they have only become more homogenized, easily fitting into the stereotypical boundaries set by the net populace by seeking the favor of a small, centralized minority to feel accepted. And in order to *be* accepted, they usually have to submit themselves to some pretty goofy things. It's not just Furries, either, it's several other subcultures, net or otherwise, who package individuality in easily-assemilated pieces: what to wear, what to watch, what to like, each of which has one thing in common: not everyone else is doing it. I'm not trying to generalize the Furry scene here, I'm just making a point about the worst of it. There's a line somewhere on what makes a person of Furry and someone who just likes Furry stuff. The people who generally just enjoy the art (I do, (some of it) who doesn't like good art?) or hang out with people who happen to watch SatAM Sonic may come across as pretty normal, but they're just being themselves, and that's what I respect. You can call yourself whatever you want, but you need to ask yourself why you're doing what you're doing, and why you like what you like (or *think* you like). If Miles says he just likes Furry art, none of the drama, none of the idol worship, none of the flock-mentality, then he's not a Furry, he's Miles. A guy from California who likes Tails enough to put him in his avatars and maybe call himself a fox from time to time. Of course, if anyone like that still wants to call themselves Furries, by all means. Anyone smart enough can tell the difference. |
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I'm not saying I will never fursuit. I'm just saying I'm not pursuing it now. But yes, I do attend furry conventions. I got the photos to prove it. I also do something else that a couple people here know about but is still not ready to be unleashed upon the unwilling masses. :gonk: You couldn't identify me as being a furry if you just knew me normally. Maybe a hardcore video game nerd, but that's about it. I usually keep my furry activities separate from everything else. Besides, I can't stand all of the retarded words and mannerisms that furries use. Every time I see "hyooman" I want to vomit. |
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