DC: One Year Later
 

So, DC's "One Year Later" started this month. It depicts event's that happened a year after Infinite Crisis. In other words a "reboot" of their titles. So, you DC/Marvel fans think it's a good thing? Or does reading these books still confuse you? For instance, do you think the stories still have references to other books, like what happened to who, and who is who? So, I ask you, did DC fuck it up or is it actually what the fans/non-fans been waiting for?

P.S. I'm not that much of a DC fan, so if there's some wrong or untold information about OYL, please correct me in any way you can.

How about we wait until more than 1 issue of each series has been released before judging . . .

i read new batman and im hella confused.
we need more issues before we can judge :(

I thought OYL was supposed to make a better flowing universe in which continuity is established between titles. However, I'm already seeing problems. Powergirl is in Kandor and part of the JSA. Supergirl is in Kandor and protecting Metropolis. (She also might be in the 31st century, but there are a few reasons why that's not really a problem.) Robin is helping out Batman, having adventures in his own mag, and a member of the Teen Titans. It seems to me that DC has blown a golden opportunity to keep everything straight.

Why don't they just create a new series for this stuff. Seriously.

I like how they try to continue things during issue #586 of a series, or whatever. And to top it off, the story takes place between two different series, of course.

STORY TO BE CONTINUED IN BATMAN ANNUAL #29191

No, it's Detective Comics and Batman.

Umm.. what is? I'm not really sure what you're talking about...

Detective Comics and Batman are somewhat connected (I think..)

I belive the entire best thing that could be done was to start on a whole new story line. Keeping stuff simple and just getting some fresh wind in. Like batman 651 is a second part of a already on-going series. To me that's just lame. Im not gonna stomp on them atfter a issue but i dont like it at the moment :8

dispite that i follow some story arc... i never get how the DC and Marvel works in their character creation.

like there're just so many different stories which makes me wonder how it really works. i mean is it like if i have a good idea/story about say superman (which got approved, etc). i get my own 'universe' ?? do i get permission from stan lee to draw my own spiderman comic? like how does it really work?

are they all related? do the artists take turn to tell stories?

can some one please explain to me :/ thx~

Generally I believe that the company contacts a writer and offers them a contract to do X number of issues for book Y. The writer then has a certain amount of time to come up with a story. The story is submitted for approval and if given the ok, then work on the script and the art begins. However, when it comes to mega-events like Infinite Crisis, House of M or Civil War I believe that they have a rather large team of editors and writers get together to discuss what is going to happen - then they assign different writers to different books and tell them what to write (or tell the current writers what story they have to write).

in that case, there should one of each character then right?
how did all the other 'parallel' character appear then :/

and so this is why they make it into the infinite earths cuz they got confusing? what exactly did they screw up?

A problem with the multiverse in DC was that sometimes it became difficult to keep track of all the characters, or at least that is my understanding. Another problem was that people who wanted to write a story involving long-standing characters like Superman, but didn't want to tamper with the current character, could just create a new Earth and write their story.

The problem with the last Crisis is that it didn't succeed. Writers created "Elseworld" comics. Hypertime (a nexus of access points to similar realities) was created. Time was rearranged. So, instead of a linear universe, like there was supposed to be, we ended up with an even more confusing universe. And no, there shouldn't necessarily only be one of each character. If someone can think of a legitimate reason for there being a parallel version, such as those in the Marvel Age or Ultimates (and I can include them because Marvel never tried to become linear), I don't mind at all. What I mind is when the same version of the character appears in about four or five different titles in the same month {thinks of Superman and Wolverine}.

Don't forget about Batman. He's in even more titles than Wolvie every month.

Also - this new Superman arc is actually good. I'm shocked.

that's where i have the most problem with.

especially batman and spiderman.

are they the same character? same universe?
batman, for instance, i mean, now i finally sort of figured out that batman is onto his third robin (i think) and some ex-robin actually came back to haunt him.... which is sorta canon i guess.. (old old old news).
but ther'e just so many titles. <- and once again brings me back to my original question. how/who/why authorized this to be written this way ?

and with something like marvel 100000000 (or DC or whatever... something like that), or kingdomcome. which is the story of the future. will the 'universe' eventually go that way? or will it be argued again be in another universe and completely forgotten

spiderman and batman are like the biggest charecters ever. They are gonna get milked. Some books use the same batman from the normal universe (batman is getting in his mid 30s has a lot of experiance, has seen deaths etc etc) but in like Allstar Batman it's a complete seperate universe.
I dont find it that confusing, it's pretty clear if it's all new or old.

If you can't figure out that Superman and Batman are separate people . . . then I don't know what to say. Go do some reading on Wikipedia, it will help you.

Many titles are assigned an editor. Not only does this editor edit the story, but he or she also helps the writer (and sometimes the artist) pitch the story. If found acceptable, he story is worked on and printed. This is how stories end up the way they do. A story could be wonderful on paper or during the pitch, but executed improperly (as I imagine was done with Superman & Batman).

Stories about futures generally end up being alternate futures because otherwise the current writers could become limited to trying the match the current universe to a preset future. It limits them in a way.

Batman is up to his thrid Robin (I think--It's still unclear to me whether the One Year Later Robin is still Tim). And the second Robin, Jason Todd, is not "haunting" Batman. He came back from the dead and decided to introduce his own brand of justice. Now, he's Nighwing... as is the first Robin.

Does all of that explain everything?

The one year later Robin is Tim. This was confirmed even before the OYL issues came out.

We don't know who the second Nightwing is yet. We can only speculate that it is Jason Todd.

it seemed a little more reasonable....
so does this goes the same for the current supergirl where she made a cameo in batman/superman, and had her own comics and then appeared in superman#223 (i think that's the number)??

I'm not sure what you mean, supergirl, and I don't want to assume and answer incorrectly, making myself look like an idiot. Are you perhaps asking how she could have in Batman/Superman, her own comics, and the Superman issue? Because that has a simple answer.

I know this now. It has been clearly addressed in Teen Titans.

It was clearly addressed in Batman, Detective Comics and Robin in teh few previous weeks . . .

Just to go back to this but Kingdom Come is just another "Elseworlds" book so no it won't represent the future or possible future for the DC heroes. As the trade for KC puts it:
Elseworlds titles like KC can allow new and old readers to jump into a book with out the numerous years of continuity and backstory to enjoy the books and the story. It's this reason alone why I'm loving All Star Superman & Justice.:)

That said and back on topic, I am enjoying the OYL Superman arc in "Superman" and "Action Comics" by Busiek & Johns.

I disagree, but we can just leave it at that.

Ooh, yeah. One year later, Power Girl is in two places, Supergirl is in three (not counting the Legion), and Robin is in three. Yeah, there are no continuity problems at all!

how can they be in different places? at once? or in some sort of contunuity.

This is getting ridiculous. The stories OBVIOUSLY do not occur at the same time.

Robin is only with the Teen Titans on the week end. He is in Gotham during the week.

No comment on Supergirl or Power Girl because I haven't kept up with them OYL - but to my knowledge, Supergirl is only in one OYL title...

c'mon dood, excuse me for not understand with the whole DC contuniuty ok :'(

sory that this might not be a best place to post.. i just want to get some stuff cleared out. i guess i have what i needed for now.

Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes? I think that's the only title she's in.

They killed the Loeb run? (thank god)

Supergirl appeared in one of the Superman titles recently. She is apparently acting as a surrogate Superman until Clark gets his powers back.

Robin couldn't only be with the Titans on the weekend. You're telling me that he rebuilt it a weekend at a time? You're telling me he built that secret room of his one weekend at a time?

Maybe I'm just being picky, but I really feel comic book companies are more about selling the product than having it make sense, which usually leads to the same well-known character being in multiple places.

It has already been established earlier in this volume of Teen Titans that he is only there on the weekends.

For some unknown reason Supergirl appears in:

1- the 31th Century,I got the "Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes" issue and.. argh! Never liked the Legion and the actual run isn´t better. Don´t want to make spoilers about the issue, but maybe what is happening there, it´s not what it looks...

2- Kandor with Powergirl (Supergirl #6 scheduled to Sale April 26, and it´s writen by Greg Rucka, so I assume this won´t be a total loss like Loeb run)

3- finally, in Metropolis, helping Superman (who lost his powers a year later, yet to be explained how)

Maybe they´re trying to make her a "Wolverine", with special appearence in every comic book...

Like somebody mentioned earlier, this is getting ridiculous. So much speculation from people who don't even follow DC regularly in the first place (Which might be in the root of the problem).

Firstly, in response to Supergirl, please go and read up on Wikipedia's comic entries. They help alot. This is not a place you want to ask questions such as these. I'll help you answer your initial question about Supergirl, though. They dumped her in Superman/Batman to test audience reaction, and from there they apparently guaged that there was enough interest in the character to go further and restart her own series.

Secondly, Acro-nym, nobody says that all the comics happen at the same time. Even the current DC editor says that there isn't really a timeframe for what might happen in to Robin in Batman and Teen Titans. If both titles are involved in a story arc, then there is a rough timeframe, but if not, you're supposed to assume otherwise. Like in the events that happen in Batman and Detective Comics and Legends of the Dark Knight and Gotham Knights (Which is now cancelled) usually don't happen in the same timeframe. Most of the comics happen in the same universe, so that's why you can see cameos from different characters. Detective Comics was the original staple of DC when they first started out, hence they have the same initials. It's just that Batman has taken over Detective Comics for the time being. Nobody to replace him as the world's greatest detective, after all. It's the same with Superman and Action Comics. As for Supergirl being in 3 different places, I think it's entire explainable too. Kandor is supposed to be in Superman's Fortess of Solitude, and he has some sort of enlarger and shrinker which enables him to visit Kandor itself, I believe. So for Supergirl (Who does not have a civilian identity) to police both Metropolis and Kandor is not a large stretch of imagination. As for Supergirl and the Legion, why can't a present and future Supergirl exist at the same time?

Yes, we all know these multiple series are for big companies to milk their cash cows. Yes, it is a large stretch of the imagination that Robin built his secret lab in the Titans tower all by himself on the weekends. It is a stretch to imagine Batman building the batcave all by himself too. Roll along with the punches, will you.

OKAY, NOW FOR MORE OYL SPECULATION:

Thank you for the support. I was considering shooting somebody when Supergirl asked if Batman and Superman were the same person. Wow, just wow.

In response to your speculations: I have no idea what gold kryptonite is...but yes, I could see Lois getting pregnant.

Happy, you seem to be using the wrong wording. These events clearly happen within the same timeline, just not necessarrily at the same time. I'm not even saying that they happen at the same time. I'm just saying it shouldn't be possible for these people to keep such diverse commitments. In regards to Kandor, the last time we saw it in "Godfall" it took a fair amount of time for the enlargement process to take place. Due to this, I don't see how Superman can use his signal watch and her show up a few seconds later.

I believe Supergirl asked if Batman and Spider-Man were the same character, not that it really matters. As for gold kryptonite, it was a type of kryptonite that existed pre-Crisis (referrng to the period before The Crisis of Infinite Earths) that stripped any Kryptonian of their powers. This substance may exist post-Crisis, having been unleashed onto Earth when Captain Atom dispersed a giant kyptonite meteor.

Yes, it was the right answer, but probably the wrong wording. I can perhaps be forgiven because I wrote it in the wee hours of the morning. Perhaps 52 can explain some of the discrepancies.

I'm a little lost on the Gold Kryptonite too. I'll be getting round to picking up DC's Alan Moore work compilation soon enough but whether or not this fits in with this Newsarama has a preview up for next week's Action Comics including this panel:
http://www.newsarama.com/dcnew/Apr06...s/AC652p01.jpg

As for the Lois thing, that's my feeling too especially with DC's write up for Action Comics #839...

Ya, that's definitely it. Good call Happy.

I wonder if any creative team on Superman will address some of the loose ends left from before IC. Like Lois's father actually being alive.

Nah, those 3 words will be:

Possibly, those 3 words could be:


Speaking of OYL, the other comic that has certainly piqued my interest has been Blue Beetle. So far the wat the storyline has been told and the simple artwork with clean lines has been utterly fascinating. I'm kinda of interested in which direction the story will go as well. Will it be magic? Will it be technology? Will it be some sort of techo-magic? Well. Loads of stuff to be excited about.

p.s. Anybody noticed that Bruce has lightened up considerably? Maybe it's times for a yellow Batman costume.

Blue Beetle is meh. I like the new Batman arc. There hasn't really been any "OMG this shit is amazing!" since the first issue of the Superman arc though...

Yeah, Blue Beetle is interesting, and just now I finished reading Checkmate. And I'm liking it. Birds of Prey is meh.

Checkmate is pretty good - espionage, political shenanigans and all that =)

I just wonder though. Maybe

yeah. this is lame.



Was I the only one kinda dissapointed?

i know i'm pulling up an old post but i'm even more confused with the whole thing. If there is a new nightwing what happened to Dick? Did i miss something in Infinite Crisis as in his death or is this just a completely One Year Later thing that got skipped over. I've only been following the OYL of Superman and Wonder Woman so this really throws me off.

There are two Nightwings now.

As a whole, I have to say that I'm not very impressed by the OYL stuff. There simply isn't a lot of good material being produced. It's rather sad, especially when you compare it to the gems that Marvel is currently getting out on a monthly basis.

The Black Adam segments of 52 are starting to get better and better, especially with issue 10. It looks like Adam can`t switch back to his human form, but I have to wonder why does he actually want to?

I can`t wait to see the Marvel family as 52 and Trails of Shazam start up