Soul Calibur 3
 

Soul Caliber 3 is only sold for ps2, and easily one of the best reasons to have a ps2. Soul Caliber 3 is a weapon based fighting game, and most likely one of the best fighting games out there.



I friggin love SC3, there is SO much to do, more than SC2, and thousands of items and weapons to earn and use. The characters are bad ass too, the new Zasalamel, the Scythe guy, is amazing and has devestating moves. Also, most of the moves for the characters have been preserved from SC2.

There are many modes of play:

1)Tales of Souls - Arcade style story - where you earn stuff for main characters
2)Soul Arena - arcade style missions and single player - earn stuff for main characters as well
3)Chronicles of the Sword - NO MAIN CHARACTERS - you can only use characters made with the new create a character mode, and have to play an rpg style battle system to unlock more equipment for custom characters, and more classes of custom characters
4)World Championship - compete in tournaments and earn cash - very hard, hardest mode
5)Multiplayer - nuff said
6)Practice - nuff said
7)Stores - where you buy equipment
8)etc...

The custom characters add a whole new realm to the game, as you can create characters in up to 10 classes, with 20 different weapon disciplines, making millions of cutomizing options. Also, as you progress in Chronicles of the Sword, you can buy more types of equipment to put on your custom characters, increasing the customization capabilities.

If you're wondering about new characters they are as such...

Siegfried - great swords - the human form of nightmare

Zasalamel - scythes - immortal one, seeking rest

Tira - ring blade - minion of the sword, seeking power

Setsuka - umbrella sword - japanese woman, seeking revenge for her husbands death

Numerous bonus characters, such as Revenant - duel crescent blades - skeleton puppet of the sword... and so on.

What are your feelings on Soul Caliber 3?
I'd like to here other thoughts on the game...

Thread name changed to something less shitty. It'll be interesting to see how the arcade version will fare.

I was somewhat disappointed with Soul Calibur III. My first observation was that some moves that I had used constantly in previous Soul Calibur games had been removed or changed. It wasn't difficult to learn the new moves for several characters, but I was still disappointed that they were changed.

I found the character creation mode interesting though, but still haven't unlocked all the clothing and accessories yet.

I know, I desperately want the entire unholy set, but I can't seem to unlock them all. The Helm, especially, is uber cool!

I'm working now on getting alot better with my favourite character, Cervantes, the dead pirate guy with the gun sword and normal sword.

He has some awesome moves, for instance, if you hit them up in the air with (downtowards)+(triangle), then hit (triangle)+(down), you catch their body on your gun sword, shoot them in the chest twice, and throw them away, it's awesome!

My main character was Sueng Mina, followed by Taki. Although Sueng Mina and Kilik had very close moves in SCII, they removed a few from Sueng Mina and left them on Kilik for this third game.

I once wanted to learn Voldo's combinations simply because I played against someone a few years ago who used them all whenever fighting and left no room for the other player to even stand up.

I like how they made Talim into the worst character in the game. Thanks Namco.

I traded my copy in, but I'll likely pick it up again once it hits the $20 mark.

In Soul Calibur 2, I almost exclusively used Talim. She was quick, evasive, and had some real painful combos and lots of juggle attacks. In Soul Calibur 3 however, I've noticed she's been handicapped. Not quite as evasive, not nearly as quick, and her moves have been changed for the worse. It was difficult for me to readjust to her style of play, so I moved on.

I also like to use Seung Mina in SC3. Her moves are separate from Kilik now which is a bonus, she seems to move a bit faster and her attacks are quicker. Xianghua still retains most of her characteristics which is a good thing.

Of the new characters, I find myself playing Tira more than Zasalamel and Setsuka. Her moves are quick, fairly unpredicatable with the right combinations, and she's at least a bit evasive. In spite of my favor toward close-range combat, I regularly used her longer-range moves, but I made liberal use of her shorter ones.

The Soul Calibur franchise ended with the first Soul Calibur. Confirmed.

There is nothing good about Soul Calibur III other than the Keiki Kobayashi tracks. Radiant Souls. Don't pose.

IRT SC hater
Well I guess you're entitled to your opinion...

IRT SouthJag

Really, you use Tira? I could never get comfortable with her moves, and found myself losing a lot when I used her. I love Zasalamel's amazing guard breaking moves and surprising quickness. I found that using Abyss I actually did worse than Zasalamel...

I don't like Zasalamel simply due to his sheer lack of combos. When I played him, I wasn't able to pull off lengthy combos -- usually just single strikes. :/

I liked SC3, it was a nice change from SC2, but definitely not significantly better. You could easily play SC3 then SC2, and not feel like you've made a step down. The new Character Creation stuff didn't interest me, and the "Tales" mode was boring.

In SC3, I play mainly Taki, Kilik, and Nightmare.

In SC2, I play Nightmare and Heihachi.

Talim is pretty bad, but I think Rock is even worse. Why Talim sufferred the nerfs that she did I'll never know.

Rock is a character that I chose to pretend didn't exist...

He's the most pointless character ever, if they have Astaroth, why put in a shitty and not cool version such as Rock?

I hate him so much I didn't even mention him on my first post.

IRT Newbie1234

You actually used Heihachi in SC2? He was so crappy - short ranged, low damage, not cool in any way... Anyone with any amount of ranged attack could kick Heihachi's ass in under 20 seconds.

One thing I don't like is how Siegfried and Nightmare have the same damn moves... Even if they are the same person, why not have a "good" set of moves for Siegfried, and an "evil" set of moves for Nightmare. Even if like 3 of their moves are different it's not enough, they could have done so much more with these characters...

She was my best character in the second one, i would kick serious ass no matter who the opponent was, but now she is completely rubbish

When i first got this game at Christmas, i was pretty disappointed with it. I just wasn't used to it and there isn't really a normal Arcade Mode in my opinion. Tales of Souls is a bit too much what with all the reading you have to do. I wanted the game to fight, not to read.

the best feature about this game however is The Chronicles Of The Sword though me thinks. This is the most addictive and interesting aspect of the game.

It took me a while to get used to but it's a pretty good game. It's still nowhere near as good as the original or the second one for the GC.

I was disappointed with SC3, they removed moves they just introduced in SC2... very stupid indeed... so are the glitches... oh and I'm getting sick of the stupid projectile attacks they added in 2 and rape more so in 3...

I'm disapponted too with SC3 just with the move, but talking about the rest SC3 it great, I enjoy playing The Chronicles Of The Sword and buying armor, weapon, and accesory. The worst part of SC3 is the secrect boss "Night of Terror" hard to unlock and difficult to defeat.

I was extremely underwhelmed with SC3. I was mainly pissed that Spawn got removed, but that was to be expected.

I'm pissed that Soul Calibur has jumped on the "lets make every woman have huge and overly exposed tits" bandwagon. It's so bad that even the god damn shopkeepers are overly sexy. It's just so stupid, and completely unneeded for a game of this high a reputation.

With the exception of Chronicles of the Soul, the gameplay is still solid, it' just little things like that that piss me off.

He's definitely one of the worst characters in the game, but he's a lot of fun to play. Great character to use against people who mash.

Hell, my cousin was good with Heihachi... He even bothered memorizing all of the 10 hit combos... Usually he'd be able to hit me enough to drive my character off the edge of the stage... That's why I rarely beat him... <_<

I thought Soul Calibur III was pretty good. Not the greatest of the series, but it could've been better. I tend to play as Xianghua alot in the game... Seems like the most least changed character since Soul Calibur I. When not using her, I use the Ninja class. That one is alot of fun. Especially all those kick attacks the class uses.

Out of all the characters, Talim definitely got nerfed the most. hehe, nerfed*frick I'm high*...

I like using the barbarian class, when it comes to custom characters. This is cause the damage is high, but there is still some decent level of control.

The GAYESTMOFOCLASS would be the guys with the friggin staff, cause they get these really weird moves where the staff gets thicker and longer. One move, they actually put the staff on their shoulder and extend it like a rocket launcher, and it goes all the way across the stage, it's so friggin gaty!*&

OK, moiosiadjaphoen

nerf

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Never take sleeping pills then donut sleep, lolsterbate!, ahlsdkfhahahaha

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I formally apologize for the last post, I took tylenol and sleeping pills and I was super whacked out. Now I still can't sleep, lol, ironic yes...

Anyways, sorry, but you can try to pick the information out of there...

I've got to say, Soul Calibur is superior to its sequels. Soul Calibur II and III were too big of rehashes. This is not as true with Soul Calibur III, but I can't say there's enough new there to warrant a purchase. All the real fun seems to be in the original game, the sequels just take that and build pooly conceived features around it.

Create-your-own-character is one of my least favorite features in any game. A generic character of your own design seems to take away from the concept of adopting the role of a pre-existing character.

And I'll give you that Eleo, when create-a-character sucks. But with Soul Calibur 3, they've done arguably one of the best jobs as far as the level of detail is concerned. They could've done with some of the less retarded wardrobe choices, granted, but I think what's there is done right. It's probably the one true saving grace of this third iteration.

Of course, the yin to creation's yang here is that Talim turned from an agile, strong girl to a crippled elderly woman in a wheelchair. Damn you Namco. Damn you to HELL.

You do know that Rock was one of the characters that started this game, right? They replaced him in Soul Calibur with Asteroth, which I was very disappointed with at the time. If they had given him his old outfits it would have been much better (I loved his Triceratops helmet), but I love the fact that they included him in this one. The only non-returning character I wish they had brought back was The Weapon Master from Soul Calibur 1, rather than stick in Olcadon. The Weapon Master looked far cooler.

Me, I love Soul Calibur III. I actually like how they changed up the moves on returning characters, giving you the chance to learn a game. Also it gives new people a chance to be able to stand up to old players, rather than having that person dominate all of his friends because he knows all the moves.

I love the character generation, I just wish it was more in-depth. It would have been nice if you could choose parts from all the regular characters to, or have different body sizes.

The Tales Mode I was disappointed in; it could have been so much better. Now there's no reason to play through it multiple times. If they had changed-up the enemies (maybe more of them, or different abilities, stronger AI), it would have made it better. I would have liked more maps as well. I would have liked them to have a different boss most of all, someone who was less uncool.

The regular game, I really got sick of the "dodge the giant gear/cage/sword thrust" scenes. Plus, they were all pretty much identical for every character. I would have liked a story that changed depending on the character that you were, something that the earlier games made you feel like.

One thing I did notice, and would like them to return to was the "realistic weapons and moves" feel that the first game had. I loved the fact that the characters were all using real weapons (albeit highly stylized) and fighting styles. Now, it seems they are getting more flash and less nitty-gritty.

I miss Team Battle. Oh, god do I miss Team Battle. That was a very poor decision on Namco's part to take that out, as well as all of the records. What the hell was with that. I loved Soul Calibur 2 for all of the things the game kept track of that you could view at any time.

I would have liked to see the original openings for the games put in SCIII just for viewing pleasure. I still love watching the Soul Blade/Edge opening...one of the best openings to a video game yet.

Overall, great game, and I am fully glad I bought it. I'm eagerly awaiting what they have next.

Soul Calibur 3 has fried my memory card twice so far. There is some sort of bug which has a chance of corrupting your memory card every time it saves the game. Other than that, I love the game.

The bug happens when you edit an older game save from another game on the same memory card as the SC3 data is saved on. To avoid this, just make the SC3 save the first data saved onto a blank memory card, then proceed to putting other game saves on it as much as you want.

You can of course also corrupt the game by having auto-save turned on, and switching off the console while its saving. But SC3 is notorious for that memory card data corruption bug.

Does anyone know if the PAL version has the bug or what.

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There's also a newer "Soul Calibur III Fixed 2.0 NTSC" torrent.

Does anyone know what was even updated.

i download that..
the game it is all in english, but the title in the memory card appears in japanese...
what do you think?

No, Megalith's right here. The original is still the best title.

Even in 2006, the graphics of a game made in 1999 can compete with what's currently on the market. It's aged well. Soul Calibur II was so horribly broken which had characters with absolutely no range being paired against people with insane range. Everybody in Soul Calibur II just used nightmare anyway, which was absolutely no fun.

I even did a review on Soul Calibur II. It was that bad.

I love the Soul Series since the time of Soul Blade. This game was the reason I bought a Dreamcast.

In SCIII my main characters are Xianghua and Sophitia. I loved Talim and Ivy in SC2 but in this version is common knoledge that Talim is crap, and Ivy is completly different. Xianghua is still the same, a few changes here and there, nothing that makes me worry.

So how has Raphael fared with the transition of SC2 and SC3? I heard he was one of the bad guys now. True/False?

I want to play this game but haven't been able to find a copy -_-'

Um ok, that's pretty scary. I was actually considering getting this game too. So how often does this glitch occur?

True, but they've taken away many of his combos (which weren't particularly numerous to begin with) - IMHO one of the weakest characters in the third outing, at least for casual gamers.

Zorro

Japanese have SCIII in arcade version or also in North America with an arcade that have JPN cabinet.

I really enjoy playing SCIII when the game sold here on the first day. Mainly playing Taki.

Nightmare is weak in SCII. The only good thing I found about this character was 3B.

I belive Soul Calibur 3 is also coming to the Xbox 360. Last I heard anyway.

I have to agree with Megalith. I enjoyed Soul Calibur, and SC II to a limited extent. Couldn't get into this one at all. Spent a couple of hours playing multiplayer with some friends, and then mutually agreed that it was a game worth returning. End Of.

I'm divided as to whether or not I should consider getting this game. This game seems to be going for fairly cheap (it's not that old is it?) and I thought maybe it had flopped big time. I'm not really into fighting games but I really did enjoy Soul Calibur 2, is Soul Blade worth looking into?

If you found Soul Calibur II mildly fun, stick away from Soul Blade. It was like a extremely unbalanced version of Soul Calibur without the option to strafe all around (the 8 way run) and wasn't all that good, despite how everyone seemed to like it at the time.

Haha, you have to fucking be kidding me. besides that 3B wasn't all that good, if you've ever been to Soul Calibur nationals, you'll find that in SCII tournaments people only abused Nightmare. Like an insanely high percentage of all competetive players used him and no one else.

The only other overused character at that time was Taki, and that was only because she had an extreme advantage over Nightmare. I think a few others were used, but mostly Nightmare.

His range was utterly insane, and he had an insanely high variation of moves. Many of his moves had multiple options, and upon soul charge - which sucks in SC3 - alot of his NORMAL moves became fire ones. His speed was admitedly low, but it was decent and combined with his range it seriously needed toning down.

Seriously, don't tell me you've never found Nightmare even the slightest bit overpowered in Soul Calibur II? Nightmare was a huge percentage of the reason why SCII was totally unbalanced

Klonoa, have you heard of the bug G2? It makes Nightmare's 3[B] extremely safe. No matter how hard you try to punish it, he always block. Long range alone doesn't matter. Never rely only that.

I guess you never play agaisnt Xianghua. I think she's among in the top five. She's very annoying by just only whore only five moves in competition.

IMO, SCII is just a boring game because of the bug. The guard impact aren't very useful, the avoid system is lame, not all horizontal attacks can't track. Weak wake up game. Just turtle and whore safe poke. Meh...

Top nightmare players could earn 10000 a year from consistant tourney playing if they so wished it.

Guard impact isn't useful?! Dude, at tournaments, that was the SCII METAgame. Xianghua is, yes, top 5. Nightmare is top 1. Kthx. No one cares about nightmares 3B, I never even fucking used it much dude. I have killed a Tier 1 Xianghua player who tried using VC in SCII vs me, barely taking any hits.

You scrub or what?

edit - oh, you meant another bug. No, I didn't use that one. You don't really have to need it, you can fight above all the other chars anyway. Well, I didn't. I can fight G2525'ers in SC3 with my Mitsu most of the time, so long as they're not using it with Setsuka's glitch throw. I don't really use bugs. 3B without the glitch is useless, from when I looked at it. G2525 is all but removed in my copy of SCIII for some reason, so I assumed most, if not all europe copies have no VC. It may have been the same for SCII, as I tried searching for bugs alot...

This thread is a little funny, anyone that knows more than the average player in the SC community knows that DTN (Dan the Knight) from france, and a few others from the US, used Nightmare as their mains, Im not counting no name players. Xianghua definitely was the cheapest in 2, even more so in 3 with that cancel she got; and to Elixir who said that sc2 was broke, your way wrong on that one, that game was one of the most balanced fighting games out there. Almost anyone in that game had a fighting chance, with the exception of Yunsung and Raphael. Nightmare is a pretty solid character, but you definetly got to work for it against good ppl. NM's 3B is what made him good though. The top 2 ppl in sc2 were Mick and RTD Mick used Cass and X, while RTD used X mostly. Klonoa, in sc2 nationals an Ivy player won it. And there were about 5 ppl who used NM in that tournament. Almost all the charcaters were used; and no, guard impact does not play a big role in top level play, way too unsafe to do. SC3 nats is coming up in chicago on july 9.

I rented III recently, and one of the things that I found noteworthy is that instead of "fixing" Nightmare like you might see in a different fighting game, they simply split him into two characters: the faster, but less versatile new Nightmare, and the much slower, but flexible Siegfried, whose multiple stances make for a formidable arsenal.

I can't help but feel like they nerfed Siegfried a bit too much in terms of speed, though. The moves don't flow fluidly like they did in II, as there's often a short (but devastating) pause as he transitions from one move to the next.

Coming from an avid SCII Nightmare player and fan, it's really a hard shift to make. It seems almost as if there is no way to keep Siegfried constantly in motion without making yourself painfully open, and in my eyes he's pretty much broken against anything faster than, say, Yoshimitsu. Xianghua in particular was giving me no end of trouble, not only because she's been beefed further, but because of her innate speed.
After that, I toyed around with Nightmare, and although I really like his speed advantage over Siegfried, it's still harder to keep him in constant motion. Still, I really prefer II's system over III, not just for Nightmare, but because I feel like the combo system itself seems to have been reigned in, allowing characters to do less moves in succession, and favoring instead a series of quick, surgical strikes. It's more of a game of seeing an opening and capitalizing on it rather than being able to apply a strategy towards an opponent. More defensive, in other words, than offensive.

I was also hoping the character creator would be more intricate than it is. Having an option to change build or features would have been nice, but I guess for what it is, it's nice as a gimmick. I don't think any of the created characters could ever replace my standards, though.

Of course, I have only had the game for a few days, but given how much I loved SCII and made it a point to study each character and find a personal favorite, I can't help but feel choked off when I see some of III's alternate movelists and standards.

Why are you talking about SC3? SC3's bug G22 known as VC got worse. Input VC during to be GIed, then recover before them finishing their GI animation is not right.

And what's up calling someone scrub in internet? What's make you think you're the better player?


unknown_user: I heard some comment about DTN performance in Evo2K4. They said they were boring to watch him whoring 3B everytime.

Yep thats true. But that just shows what top level play is like, and like i said 3b is what made NM good. NM still wasnt the best in that game though.

I meant, VC/G2525 doesn't bug me, because I just refrain from stuff that it can wreck. And no, I think its scrubby to think that Nightmare was good just because of 3B. Its well known that he can do other nasty shit as well.

I'm out of shape on SC2, but if you refrain from sophitias 1A glitch (what was it? I know its set to 1) and Setsukas vc combo, I'd suprise you in a match of sc3. I'm not big on 3d fighters, so didn't practice much. I can wreck on it though, I have beat one or two high tier tourney players.

Also, Guard Impact in SC2, unsafe or not was still whored by some high level players, and very well. x.x Its not used in SC3 tourneys as much, but it was indeed whored in alot of competetive matches in SC2. One of my friends quit playing tourneys at SC2, labling it a Guard Break match, and does not find the same problem in 3.

End note - Soul Calibur except 3 is unbalanced ass in general.

I cant say how wrong you are when you say 3 is more balanced than 2. Everything i said in my previous post is true. X and sophie are definitely top 2 and really hard to beat in the right hands. I would like to hear these 'top tourney' players you speak of though, because if they are top, i would know who your talking about. Id also lke to hear NM's good moves. I believe they would be, 3b, 2k, 6a, 8wr a+k, 22/88 AA. I believe thats all that needs to be used, what am i missing Klonoa? On another note, im in SC3 nationals, and all the main/known players are on sc.com.

edit: You live in europe, unless you played DTN or Kayane, there really were no good players around there.
That also means you have the PAL version of sc3 which is more balanced, Sophie is still top though. X dont have the 66A+B cancel, but still up there. Unlike sc2 though, there is about 10 characters that can be used in top play other than 2 or 3.

Who the fuck here is going to take a fighting game so seriously that they'd actually enter tournaments here, dude. SooMighty won a MvC2 tournament with a Dreamcast controller, so skill isn't everything. Half of it is pot luck.

Pitting characters with NO RANGE (and require more skill) against characters with HUEG RANGE (and require no skill) doesn't make for a balanced game, no matter how experienced the players are.

Thats the point I'm trying to get across to him... Unknown seems like another insane tournament elitist. (Note, on every game I played, I have never really lost to someone who was snobby and said they been to tons of tourneys. Not badly. One threw their control at my window, breaking it in anger x.x)

SC2 is insanely broken, the one tourney player I know of (James Arnold Stanton aka Arbital 24, hes an ass. earnt over 100000£ in 2005 from diff videogame tourney winnings apparentally, including Counterstrike and ALOT of SC2 tourneys) said to a friend of mine who knows him that SC2 was totally broken, and almost anyone is usable in 3. The guy also knows every bit of frame data in SC3, you can quickly ask him a move out of nowhere, he'll tell you the start up, execution, and recovery >_<

ps my friend played him and thinks I could prolly wreck him, thats not the point.


SC3s chars are all totally usable, that much is completely apparent. SC2 was more broken than Unknowns inner rectile tissue. Your generally told to fuck off in SC2 unless you have Nightmare, Taki or X x.x and maybe Mitsu.

Also sc.com is full of shit. As elixir said, whos sad enough to go to tourneys these days? x.x

Hey don't hate on tourneys. If there were NeoGeo Battle Collisieum tournaments in my area, I would defenitly go to them. Either way, IMO SC3 is just a lot more fun overall than SC2. So much to do, but I got hit hard by that damn memory glitch. :(

Well obviously you guys dont know enough about the community, so some of the statements you guys are making are just wrong. Such as long range charcaters taking no skill. Range plays a small role in SC. I guess i cant convinve you that 2 is way more balanced than 3. Talim, Yoshi and Voldo are easily in the useable characters. If you guys would only play good ppl you would know. And why is sc.com full of shit? Thats all the proof of what im saying right here. Thats an international board, with the best players on it. On a side note, SooMighty is one of the best mvc2 players, so that would take alot of skill to win on a pad. Unless it was a tournament w/ no name ppl.

Not all short range character takes skills to win. Xianghua takes no skills. Spam same moves over and over while Nightmare have to throw safe quick poke and use 2G.

Anyway, SC2 isn't broken. It's just the SC serie is very glitchy. :D

You know, I would probably post at shoryuken if the people weren't such scrubs. They all use shorthand for moves and rubbish just to look impressive, and when you go to ask a simple question you get a complicated one: "ok, qcf+p cancel xx hyperdrive, xx change pp qcf qcf psythrust" and I'm like what.

Can we stop this now? If we think the game is broken, we don't need to enter tournaments and/or be good at the game to get an opinion out of it.

"This game appears broken. Some of the characters are ranged and others aren't, which differs the skill required for each individual character."
"Yeah, I agree."
"No guys, this game isn't broken because PEOPLE WHO CONSTANTLY PLAY IT are good at it!"
"Uh?"
"Uh?"
"Look, I know John, Paul, and Mike. They're all top tourney SC2 players. If this game is in a tournament, it can't be broken!"
"But who said anything about entering a tournament here?"
"OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW NOTHING, TOURNAMENTS MAKE THIS GAME BALANCED."

I understand the shorthand because I been around lots of fighting game losers my whole life. I feel sorry for people like you who have to deal with the idiots who abuse it though >_< if its any conselation, in fighting game related discussions I use non short hand most of the time.

Elixir, trust me, if you take the knowledge of frame data and the knowledge of how to use glitches away from idiots like Unknown and Zero, you can totally walk over them effortlessly.

I have asked people who play some fighting games at tourney level to do that for me before cause I'm new, and totally fucking raped them in every hole. o.o Course, in that one Capcom vs Snk 2 match, they started using it towards the end when they got desperate, I still won though...

Arbital 24, that guy I mentioned, thinks SC2 and Nightmare are both broken and he has prolly made more money from SC last year than Unknown and Zero ever have from games in general. So Elixir, I know you don't care about the opinions of weirdoes like them, but I have to say your opinion is more true anyways.

SC3 has more usable chars, unknown said it himself, thus proving his own point fucked.

Also, Elixir is right, you don't need to be lifeless, nerdy and spend your life away at tournaments to have an opinion of whether a game is broken in casual play. Unfortunately, its broken in competetive play too. >_>

Edit - haha omg saw your new sig, cute archer thingy ^^ What games that thing from Elix? Guessing by the art style, an rpg.

Edit 2 - x.x oh, its random

By the looks of it, all of them are from Secret of Mana, or Seiken Densetsu. Whatever people call it nowadays.

I was totally in to SC2, but not so much this game. I don't know if it was because I played the hell out of the second and couldn't handle anymore Soul Caliber, or because I constantly get my ass handed to me. Maybe I should try getting back into it. Does anybody know of a way to send each other their created characters?

No, theres no way. If you find a way to take a screen pic with a camera, I'm always interested in shit like that o.o I'm odd, yup.

It is prolly cause you played the fuck out of the second, and just about everyone found 3 to be a dissapointment at first, and hard to get hooked to. And meh, I respect any player whos friendly more than any arrogant or skilled tourney player. So dun worry bout losing.

Soph is a good start for a char, shes balanced and one of the top charries. Some of her moves - maybe one, dunno, I know theres one major one - are glitchy and abusable, you might find em. If you refrain from em, shes very fun to use, and can teach a great deal about the game. You can go far with her too. Careful cause shes banned in some tourneys, if not all, but no one cares about tourneys except glitch users and vcers (VCs a frame cancel glitch) anyway, and frame data analyzers.

If your really bad just practice against the Extremely Hard cpu in Quick Play till you consistantly beat them, which may take seasons of constant practice or weeks depending on how good you are. (Took me only a few hours within first playing Soul Calibur in general... But I'm just obsessed.) But being a quick learner doesn't mean your limits are higher than a slow learners. Then fight real people, good ones, and learn to mind game, which you can't vs the cpu.

I was talkin about sc.com, not shoryuken, shoryuken is for 2d fighters mostly. And way to completely mix up what i said elixir. I never said that since sc is in tournaments its not broken. Klonoa, in case you didnt know, the USA have the best players for SC, one reason because they travel for it. So if your friend would come to the states and play, would be a different story for him. Back in 2004, there was a world tourney in France, ppl from all over went, they had the 5 best from usa, france, belgium, canada, and a few other countries. USA dominated everyone except a few ppl from the france team. In the end team usa won it. One of the players who went from usa lives about 15 minutes away from me. So I think id know a little more than you guys. Especially since you dont pay attention to the community. Also what is this glitch move you speak of w/ soph? If your talkin about 11AA, the fast unblockable, thats far from glitchy.

He fucking travels everywhere for his tourneys, Gencon, everywhere... All over from asia, france and everything. Hes wrecked in alot of places, I doubt USA is exempt. I'll try and get in contact and let you know. Hes prolly earnt more money from that shit ass game than you earnt in your life though, so its okay.

11AA... Yeah, its apparentally banned. It looked glitchy enough to me, mefriend. It wrecks more than VC on steroids. So 'shup.

And here you fucking go AGAIN.

Here we go with the "I'm better than you cause my friend can play tourneys." What? No one cares. Yes, you're right. I don't give a shit about the community of a 3D fighting game I hardly fucking play.

Thus the ammount of hours I got in it is less. SC pays like shit, even 'my friend' (who I dun even know too well) said that. No point learning frame data, (BORING) glitches (WORSE) and spending tons of time on the community and practicing the meta when it pays like shit, and, plays like shit. At tourney level.

Yes, once the VCing and other tedious shit begins, SC has some skill at top level. Nowhere near as much as Counterstrike, or anything mildly better (haha Marvel vs Capcom 2 has more usable chars than SC2) cause that wouldn't be like Namco to make anything interesting. But you can play it without your dick falling off. Just about.

As for low level play, its a masher. Peroid. Put a beginner who knows some of the moves mildly vs a chav, chav does at least 30%.

Soul Calibur is good, its probably however one of the most fucking boring, glitch riddled, frame analyzing obsessed and unbalanced meta games. EVER. And pays like mud for the trouble. Unlike good games which may most of the time pay like mud at top level, its... Not good enough to fucking wanna metagame.

Arbital for his general videogaming skills has been featured in UKs Edge magazine for an article. That pays. Unbalanced and monotonous SC tourneys don't.

Also, you sound like a general sc.com user. You can't use caps well, have a scrubby name, plunge your paragraph in one piece, and try to act high and mighty and the mature one. Do you guys have a virus going around there? >_<

And yes, I can prolly be better than you at it too. If I bothered learning frame analysis, getting the money to travel to SC heavy areas, and how to abuse tourney legal glitches. I can easily learn a charrie inside out, and if I wasted a speckle of my time on it, yes, I could prolly wreck you. I'm inclined to think I can now too, but you'd be doubtful if I said that.

Unfortunately SC blows too much to play at tourney level. kthx

haha, you think that unblockable is so bad its bannable, and they actually ban it in tourneys over there? Damn, that says alot about the players there. They cant see a low move and block it on reaction i guess. That proves right there how bad they are.

Maybe he has earned more money than me in games than i have, im still confident i could destroy him in it. NM isnt all that great. And no, tourney play doesnt even use VC all that much. If theres gamebreaking glitches in sc3, id sure like to hear them.

Plus you think Marvel has more useable charcacters than sc2? Damn, you just really dont know anything about the game it seems. Marvel has 4 main characters to play with, plus good assists. All others are crap. Sc2 got at least 10 characters goin for them for top play. But you dont even know about that and you claim that im wrong when im not. You can say im wrong, but I know im right because unlike you im part of the SC community, and care about it.

All fighting games (T5DR, GGXX/, KOFXI, etc.) are like that. Experienced veteran or top player should never lose to newcomers. It like professional racer against some guy who start race for 10 minutes.

In SC3 tourney, everything is allowed. There is no gamebreaking glitch in this game unlike Lizardman's glitch throw in SC2.

Klonoa, if you aren't into fighters, why bother reply. Unknown and I just give some knowledge to people who want to get into fighter. You just make yourself look retard. "Effortlessly" you said? What happened if you encounter a player who abuse same glitch as you?

They ban it in general tourneys, the unblockable, according to Arbital. also, James Arnold Stanton/Arbital 24 also said apparentally that USAs players suck at SC. Hes already wrecked over there, apparentally. Considering his general gaming earns from Soul Calibur tournaments last year, including the top ones (Gen Con, not shitty namco SC nationals) that totalled over 20,000£ on SC2 alone, (played other games) and considering he was featured in Edge and no one you know ever will be, I think hes more trustable. His 160,000 he raked in last year said so, so does the tournament records.

He won the counterstrike UK national last year too x.x I think, which is part of the reason for his huge income.

Marvel has 4 overpowered chars, but others are still mildly usable. SC2 had 3 usable chars. Peroid.

How much a year do you earn from SC? I'm guessing as a tourney gamer, you'd be earning your 13,000+ a year gaming on it. If you believe your so much better than this guy, considering his views counteract yours and hes earnt more. From USA too, scrub. Japan, france and everywhere too.

The guy knows every bit of frame data on the game, start up frames, ending frames, execution frames. My bf - whos the one who knows him personally, not me - confirmed this by asking him several questions about Taki's posession stance, since thats my bfs fave stance in the game. He doesn't even like the game that much.

My bf used to be better at counterstrike than him during the time they played together a few years back when that psycho played it, before he reached the level he is now. Even though he doesn't know as much about fighting games as he does about more pvp/pc orientated games, he knows his share, and said that if I knew all the glitches in the game and BOTHERED with SCs stupid ammount of frame data knowledge, and abused it constantly, I could prolly take a high ammount of Stantons health off. if not win. Easily.

Judging players off their country doesn't work with the dedicated, friend.

Edit - Zero, I'm totally ignoring your existence from this point onward. Its... kinda not there. I like fighting games. Alot. SC is one I find fun in moderate doses, and one I find horribly tedious to play at high level. The Stanton tard apparentally finds SC the best fighting game, though he doesn't really like it much anyway. So there is appeal. Alot of it. It sold. Its also extremely homo erotic to me to play constantly.

3-4 hours a day at max for me with that game x.x

haha, im supposed to believe that? Why wasnt he in the big tournament in 2004 then? Plus they ban an unblockable that you guys think is cheap, thats proof right there that you guys arent that good. You can say otherwise, but I know what im talking about.

LOL, just stop. Your just not making any sense anymore. 3 characters usable....maybe over there, where players arent good enough to win with others. At least 8 that can win in high play. I dont see how you can say Talim, Mitsurugi, Voldo, Yoshi, and a couple others arent capable of winning. It boggles my mind really. If you dont know about high play, dont talk about it please.

edit- Your a girl? And you said you could beat me if you learned the game? Sorry but girls dont have the mentality to be really good at fighting games. Dont say otherwise or make excuses, theres not 1 top player in a competitive fighting game thats a girl.

That's the funniest and most ironic thing I've heard in a while.

Anyways, what the hell guys! Where's the love! Who cares if the game has more balanced/unbalanced characters! In the end, what does it prove anyways? Who knows more about the game?

We should be discussing character storylines and what additions would make SC4 even better than its predecessors (when it comes out, IF it comes out)! Hell, do you guys think it would make a PS3 release before a PS2?

awesome, your sexist too. Unfortunately I'm a guy. (Bi, but pretty sure I have a dick) Shut up.

There are 3 characters in SC that guarantie a win much easier than others. Arbitle usually judges on the highest chance of winning, cause hes a money and victory whore. Not who can possibly win. He basically meant that in SC3 the chances of winning are more equal from character to character.

I dunno about SCs big tourneys, the game sucks, I don't play it much. I'll ask the dude personally the next I decide to poke fun at him what tourneys he been to.

If you want proof he was featured in Edge for being superior (more superior than you) I'll find an article from a friend of mine and scan it in soon.

If you played me on Guilty Gear, then I shall have you know that X2 (any mix of it) is one game I never lose a player match on. Ever. Because, its actually a game I care about. No, I don't know much about SCs high level play, I can just trash people who partake in it unless they're high end players. Arbital prolly knows more than either of us though, so stfu.

You never answered my question either. How much a year do you earn playing games? Preferably sc

Ok, I assumed wrong, your a guy. Im bi too actually.

Ive only travelled to a few big ones that had 1k payouts. I only play that and halo1 competitively, a shame h2 sucks. And won a few of them, some got 3rd or 4th. But i didnt really have to travel for competition because I got some of the best comp a few miles away. Stant might be superior than me being known, but i still say id be a better player than he is at it. If he would play NTSC sc3, he'd see that X is the best in it, because she has all the good stuff, while most other characters in that game have nothing. Arbital might know more about the sc community that goes down over there, but not the sc community as a whole and what goes on in it. I dont play guilty gear, but theres a pretty big guilty gear scene here, and some really good players too.

Does anyone happen to know a fix for the memory card glitch? I tried deleting just the SCIII data and the corrupted data I found on the card, but it was still giving me problems when I tried saving a new game.

Anyway, I copied all my files to a friend's memory card and copied them back, and I'm hoping that will help fix the problem.

The only way around the glitch is to create a Soul Calibur III save file on a brand new, formatted card, and in the first save slot.

Also, the problem with Soul Calibur III become immediately apparent once I saw the involvement of the TEKKEN team in the credits.

Well, I only rented the game, so I don't care about the SCIII info. It's just that after I deleted my SCIII file, it still wouldn't let me make a Shadow of the Colossus save file. It said there was an error saving the data, and then said there was no memory card inserted. =/

Your card is corrupted, and you need to format it.

Meh, I kinda liked SC III. But then again I only play Maxi and Klik. They did however really nerf Kilk's kick but eh he's still bad ass as ever.

Though I can see where you say Talim got nerfed but a lot of people readjusted for it.

WTF is this garbage? Girls don't have the mentality to be good at fighting games? They don't have to come out and win tournaments just to solidify themselves as being "good" at fighting games. That's like hypothetically saying because there are no 27 year old top fighting game players, that 27 year olds suck at fighting games.

Also Skexis, that glitch occurs almost exclusively during the Chronicles and there's no way around it if it triggers. Turning off auto-saving and then going in and manually saving the game yourself through the menus while playing the Chronicles is a good way to avoid it.

I didnt mean to offend anyone with that statement, its true though, when i meant by good is tournament play. I pay attention to mostly all fighting game scenes, and all of them dont have 1 girl in it. I personally think because it doesnt interest them enough to play it alot or some other reasons.

No, I guess it's because they don't have to prove themselves to their peers - "Look how I can whip your butt across the stage, dude! Am I teh shit or what???" Participating in fighting game tournaments boils down to showing off, and IMHO that's what's not generally in a woman's nature.

Zorro

I was just wondering though, what would be examples of a balanced fighting game. Surely there might not even really exist one. It's just a case of whether the differences between any two characters are extreme, I mean, any advantages over another character are surely exploited by those who know.

SC2 and Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection are fairly balanced. Theres still a some characters who are better than others. A completely balanced fighting game dont exist though.

Capcom vs. SNK 2, 3rd Strike, GGXX #Reload.

I dunno about that Lix. The tiers in 3rd Strike are extremely apparent. Chun Li compared to, well, just about anyone else, for example.

Depends on what you call a tier, I 'spose.

The last vs. human match I had, they just constantly used Urien. Which was, well, fucking lame and retarded. Because he knew how to use him. It's sorta sad when people don't mix up their gameplay with various characters, and only stick to one. However, I'm pretty sure Akuma is banned from tournaments and so is Gill, so it isn't all that bad.

The only really "overpowered advantage" I'd give to characters would be namly Urien, Ken and Chun-Li. Ryu is pretty average, and sort of difficult to use. If Ibuki didn't do so little damage I'd probably use her all the time. But in comparison to, say, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, I'd definitely consider 3rd Strike balanced.

Chun_li and Yun are the powerhouses that win in that game as of now. Ken is top tier but hes winning less and less tournaments than he did previously.

I liked this game a lot more than SCII. For one thing, chronicle of the swords beat whatever edgemaster mode was called in SCII. I really enjoyed the customizable character options, too. The AI seemed better than SCII's as well, and the difficulty wasn't determined by what special handicaps (you start with a tiny amount of health! your character has a bomb attached!) the game decided to give you for that level. Unfortunately, button mashing still works (meaning skill isn't really required).
Story mode was fun, was it was seemed silly that they were actually trying to make a coherent story.
My biggest disappointment was that Hwang wasn't brought back alongwith Rock and Seigfreid.

werepandamike, you need to play the game more. Hwang, Rock and Seigfried are in this game.