Illegal Mexican Border-Jumper is called "Hero"
 

Heard this on NPR tonight.

I found it particularly touching that an illegal immigrant who was 50 miles into his walk across the desert trying to get into the US, and he pretty much ruined his chances by trying to help a little boy who lost his mother in a car crash.

It's good to hear some GOOD news from out there once and a while.

What do you think of this story?

I think that there is a good chance that someone will read this story and offer to sponsor his legal immigration into the US. A lot of people could learn from this man's example of selflessness.

Sure -- fuck it, let him stay. Save an American, become an American. Seems like a fair trade.

So if every Mexican does something nice for an American, they can stay?

Because, I mean, they're saving you the trouble of accepting shitty wages out in the orange groves!

(<3 NP)

"Something nice" and saving a life are a little different.

It's like, I'm not going to score citizenship by throwing chocolates over the fence or anything.

Thing is, I don't know that the guy wanted to stay in America indefinitely. Article said he wanted to work so he could feed all of his baby mamas back home. He also said it felt good to be home. Seems like a work visa would make this guy happy.

The above was me, by the way.

How do you know he didn't cause the crash?

That's honestly a good idea. Actions like that speak millions about his character and the kind of person that he is. A good, honest, caring individual. He gave up his dream of living in American in order to save the life of a boy that he didn't even know. I think we need more people like that..

Not even most legal american citizens can say they would do that, either that or I just know a lot selfish people.

This is a good story. The guy's actually pretty young, but he's got a strong fatherly attitude already. Sure, he broke the law getting in here, I think that can be overlooked considering what he accomplished. I'd imagine the local authorities cut him a lot of slack, too.

Me too. Hopefully the boy's family or acquaintances can pull some strings, but if not, maybe someone in the community could.

Even though they enter the country illegally, a lot of the Mexican folk are damn fine people. Most of the ones I've worked with at the farm were old enough to be my father, but you'd never find a harder worker. They are pretty selfless at times, which I'd credit to the strong religious ties that most tend to have from Mexico (at least according to ones I've seen). This is a prime example of the religious & personal morals coming in to play.

As much as I'd like to see illegal immigration stopped somehow, I've got nothing against the people individually. It's a nasty quagmire as a result of companies hiring illegals as well as making it ridiculously hard to get US citizenship. Once again, one of the fellas I worked with for quite some time is around 65 I believe. He just got his citizenship across Thanksgiving week, and he had been waiting in queue for years and years. Pretty miserable stuff, really.

But it's also good to see that a younger fella did this. From what I've seen of younger workers (and heard of them), the present generation doesn't seem to be NEARLY as hard-working and selfless as the prior one.

The government turns a blind eye to illegals all the time. They'd better do the same for this fella, particularly given what he has done. Unfortunately, with all the press and media focusing on this, some dick might want to "set an example" and send him back to Mexico. But even should that happen, he'll get in the country. I mean hell, look at the damn route he was taking. Sure as hell is cheaper and safer than getting a coyote. I could go off in to another story along that note but I'll refrain.

This is a good story. You never hear enough of these types of stories on the news, but its nice to see that someone took the opportunity to help someone instead of looking after their own interests first.

This person is a hero, because that 9 year old child could of possibly died if he never came into contact with that man. Its traumatic enough that the boy survived a horrible accident and lost his mother in the process. It is reassuring that a person sacrificed his own mission to provide money for his family by saving the life of another human being.

I sincerely hope this person gets at least a work visa to work in the USA. As much as I think society is very self-centered and egotistical its good to see stories like this that show the compassion and the desire to save someone's life.

well maybe if he didnt have so many kids and then some additional kids out of wedlock by a girl who shouldnt have had some kids in the first place...

You're so right. No fucking wetback should be allowed the right to support any families he sees fit even if they aren't related by blood. FUCK THEM BEANERS.

Wow. This story genuinely makes me happy. It's rare that you see such selflessness in anyone.

who said anything about not supporting blood relatives? Im talking about the irresponsibility by having truckloads of kids you cant support

^ the hell are talking about?
-he had 4 kids he couldnt support
-the girl he tries to support obviously couldnt support herself and has 3 kids

and from that Im saying theres 2 people who shouldnt have had kids in the first place, I never said anything was wrong about trying to support some kids out of a relationship but rather if you cant support children let alone yourself, then you shouldnt have them.

Well, why didn't you say so? Here I thought I was reading this correctly and understood that it was his GIRLFRIEND'S KIDS, not his. I completely forgot about the draconian policies we follow in today's global society where men and women would never think of having relationships out of wedlock or after a divorce.

MY BAD, PROFESSOR.

youre good at making at making excuses, Id sure like to bang some broad when I have nothing better to do, if Im lucky shell get pregnant then Ill ditch her for another broad who already has kids why, cause there was nothing better to do right? mexico, fuck yeah!

okay, here is my first response in this thread

well maybe if he didnt have so many kids and then some additional kids out of wedlock by a girl who shouldnt have had some kids in the first place...

now it seems obvious Im stating both sides shouldnt have had kids, but Im sure youre excellent reading skills prolly kicked in when you saw the words "wedlock" and "a girl" and you just imagined what the sentence should say

And Im sure its pretty awesome of you to generalize people in low economic countires have kids only becuase theres nothing better to do.
But lets quit arguing, I dont wanna fight, lets just kiss and make up, k?

Anyway, all I see is that this guy had 4 kids and an additional 3 he took upon himself, I just think thats a irresponsible act as person. Just cause Im not praising him for helping the kid doesnt mean I dont have compassion, I just think most people overlooked a detail that shouldve been more apparent, kinda like a "you bought it upon yourself" thing, you know?

Yeah... I mean, what kind of wretched human being would actually think of, you know, reproducing to pass on his/her genes?

Oh... So I misread you when you ever-so-subtly hinted that maybe it's irresponsible to try to maintain families that he's "not fit" to support? Let's completely ignore that he's shouldering the responsibility to do so in the first place when he doesn't actually have to; something that, as a teacher, I rarely see among our community (even in these here prestigious United Snakes of America) regardless of race or religious denomination. It just seems to me that you're out to actually fault this man for having attempted to do something for his "families" and even sacrificed THAT to help someone else.

That's ok though... We're Mexican. We got in once, we can sure as fuck do it as many fucking times as is required.

more like, "what kind of human being would bring a child into a world that they cant support", now lets multiply that times 4

Im not saying we should dehumanize third world people by not letting them have kids, but rather as a parent, you would want to give your children things they need , but he couldnt do that much and that weight is on him, and now he wants to burden himslef more by adding additional weight, Im not saying thats wrong, but instead, how about looking at the priorities, you know, the kids he had first

Dont over simplify the situation as human cruelty cause I think he shouldnt fuck, but I see it as child cruelty and Im sure you do to.

You know what? FUCK. YOU. Until you personally know what having to make THAT decision feels like, I wouldn't be flapping my gums.


Which is (HELLO) what he was trying to do.

Who says he wasn't? But, like Dev said, do you know what the economy is like down there? Prioritizing lives in that economy is like playing with poker chips down there. MAYBE you can maintain them but maybe you won't. Sometimes the odds are better when you can move to a better table; even if that table happens to be in another country and you will risk EVERYTHING to try to make it work. Trust me on that.

wait...what decision? Not having sex? oh good lordy knows that everyones life is not complete without constant unprotected sex and the production bastard children.

I can only imagine your view on teenage parents in the U.S, Im sure you wouldnt be so sympathetic, but fuck me, what do I know? All I suggested was being financially able to have a kid and that set you off.

which is how long after they were born? I wonder what finally triggered his urge to support them and to finally stop at 4 kids (oh wait, he didnt). Im sure he's a great guy though.

no I wont trust you because you told me "fuck you" and thats not very neighborly =(

What people choose to do with their reproductive rights is their own business, so you should probably help yourself out and get fucked.

You know what, chief? If that's seriously the only thought your one-geared mind can mulch through, I guess I have no choice but to go with that.

You'll forgive me for being a dick about this but sometimes it's hard not to be pissed at someone who doesn't grasp the point presented to them. We live in a country where, if it doesn't make economic sense to bring a child into existence, we can "terminate" it as we damn please. If that sounds harsh, it's probably because it is and, you WILL fucking trust me when I say this from experience, it's not a decision that I would ever want to have to make again. EVER.

So yeah... Fuck you.

Darsh, even if you view this man having "too many" kids as a mistake, you have to at least respect the fact that he was willing to break into another country, walk over 50 miles through a desert, and risk any number of lawful penalties just to give his children a chance. Not only that, he gave it all up for some stranger's child he met along the way, all out of the goodness of his heart. We don't know enough about this man's past to condemn him like this, but the actions presented in this article present him as a much more commendable person that you make him out to be.


But enough of all this unpleasantness! Can we at least agree that we could use a few more selfless people like this in *any* country?

yeah, and thats okay, except when they cant support their kids and they start to, you know, illegally immigrate and it becomes a social issue in our homeland, which is one of many problems linked to unplanned children, but Im sure you thought that through

Just for the record, Im still a virgin and Ive had many women offer me sex (and not to brag or anything, most werent fatties either, hey, we wanna count our hits and not our misses right?), its not that hard to show restraint you know.


Go with what? Just cause Id rather be responsible than have kids when Im not financially able? were entitled to our opinons, but you were hellbent on proving me wrong, not mention the few insults you threw in.

I thought this was supposed to be a friendly community =/

^ cause when I was younger I worked in a mall and had women hit on me not to mention my bad social skillz and apathy towards what most would consider fun and constant masterbation which killed my sex drive and desire to find a woman and cause I like the vidya and the music it bought me here

its more common than you think

Therein lies the problem. See, you tout your choices as being the "responsible" de-facto standard for how "responsible" people should act. Sometimes this "responsibility" malarkey is a burden you have to experience both sides of for yourself before you go hand out sweeping judgments, is all I'm saying.

Some of us ENJOY pussy, you know...

... and some of you enjoy your left hand and a squirt of Lubriderm. It's all relative.

I would've been nice and friendly but, you know, you said I wasn't neighborly and I take that shit to heart because it's the internet.

You know, just because they hit on you doesn't mean they want to have sex with you.

But go on, regale us with more tales about how the virgin corn dog vendor is so much more reproductively responsible than Beaner McWetback, a likely God-Fearing Catholic who didn't have a choice not to bring children into the world.

well Im sorry I dont have first hand experience on the subject of sex restraint and child planning like you, especially since theres nothing to compare it to.

Oh wait ,we have an immigrant with 4 kids who tried to sneak in illegally, that looks like a problem, I dunno if it is, but we have a topic about it.

I never said sex was wrong, I said unplanned children are

pand pussy is fine, but Im sure you use a condom right? or birth control? or the morning after pill? if you are, then youre a hypocrite cause YOU need children because everyone deserves children, like you said I mean, what kind of wretched human being would actually think of, you know, reproducing to pass on his/her genes


well that kind of prejudice comment is very mean and Im right handed by the way

you told me "fuck you" first before I said that =/

Im not up with todays slang, but Im sure when a girl offers me a bj and another pours flavored body oil on her chest and another just shows her tits to me cause I said I was bored, Id say that was something around the lines of "I think they wanted to have sex" or "hit on"
Also, I worked at a local shop that sold skateboards, band tees, body jewerly and lingerie for 3 years, kinda far from a mcjob you know?

Also, how am I reproductively responsible?

Im going to school and I dont have kids. Hows that, or at least compared to the jobless guy with 4 kids? Also, how the hell did the beaner not have a choice to have sex, was he raped by a woman? if so thats awesome and im moving to mexico if it is that common.

Wait a minute... Why would you want to relocate for this when you are reportedly one step away from this happening to you where you currently stand? Something don't add up here, Mr. Chamberlain.

yeah well he said it himself

I thought I gave the guy his kudos on the other page, I think its on there something along the lines of I have compasion for him and "sounds like a nice guy though"

Anyway, Im also sick of the unpleasantness, the tense atmosphere and the profane mods who label anyone not super liberal as "one geared"

well, it was more of a smart ass remark to how a guy is forced to have kids.
but truth be told, getting raped by an attractive women is a nice fantasy.

Good, we don't need some straight edge corn dog vendor spewing his mental pap smears on the whole damn forum.

You're also apparently some kind of social conservative America Firster, so hey we'll be running a deficit on troglodytes.

my guess is their own country sucks because of bad econmic choices, corrupt governments and its lazy citizens who still have 50 kids though they cant support 1.
Just because we cant eliminate an entire problem doesnt mean we cant help it by making the problem smaller; stopping unplanned pregnancies would be a good start I think.

Lazy citizens... Right. Because I see them collecting welfare checks instead of relocating to find better jobs.

I want to see YOU go pick oranges for once in your life like I had to do when I was a kid so that we wouldn't be leeching off a broken social help system to survive, you half-breed cracker.

You racist shithead. Have fun not calling into question the moral fiber of somebody who risked his well being to save a child.

Actually, I don't see what the problem is. The man can support his family/ies, he was on his way to doing just that. he even saved a life in the process; that's what I call a productive day. I mean I don't know what you object to Darsh, since apparently his ability to feed his family is not in question.

Is this the pain of an unplanned pregnancy-cum-teenager? Is this what it's like to be an unwanted child?

I'm glad it wasn't christian guilt that compelled my parents to keep me. I feel for you, I really do.

Waitwaitwait

So...if I have 2 kids unplanned and after a while my wife or girlfriend or shmoo gives a fuck is no longer in the picture for whatever reason and I am left taking care of them....

and then later - I get hooked up with this girl who already has 3 kids of her own and I do something out of my way to make sure ALL kids and parties in quetion are well fed and thoroughly taken care of...

...then that makes me a lazy irresponsible fuckwit because A) I had kids in the first place without "making proper planning and B) I took on the responsibility of kids who didn't have a proper father figure in their life to begin with?

WHA-HUH?? Did I read that right? Is that what you are saying or do I need better clarification because...wow. Please make sure this is not what you are saying because if it is heaven help your seed if you ever try to have a random fuck and the condom breaks.

See, I get the feeling that people tend to take somewhat extreme examples like this guy (Darsh) and claim that all conservatives are this way. At the very beginning, I could see his point, but then the things he said just got worse and worse (basically, with each progressive post I began to think that he was younger and younger)... Anyway, I might have originally made a similar argument, but in a very different way.

Re-reading the article, though, it doesn't seem like it's such a bad thing... I think I may have initially jumped to false conclusions--that the mother of the four children was still his wife, in which case I would take serious issue. But it appears this is probably not so (or they would've said wife, not children's mother, right?), and thus it seems particularly noble for him to maintain the responsibility of feeding his offspring, and help out his girlfriend's children, which are not even his to feed.

And it does seem rather silly to expect underpriviledged people in a country with a crumbling economy to just not have sex if they have no access to birth control and condoms. Besides, from the sounds of it, this guy likes children... Doesn't it seem entirely possible that he wanted them? He sounds like a humanitarian if there ever was one.

Look, I know we got two staff in here already, but this motherfucker has got to be a dupe of someone. Seriously, he's being a fuckwit intentionally at this point. And, while his antics are somewhat amusing, he's more insulting than anything.

Darsh, if that is your real name, you do realize every single point you've tried to established has been refuted, right? Why not call it quits and tell us which name you did your jackassery before? That or just crawl back under your rock, either one.