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Dopefish Mar 24, 2006 10:27 AM

New thinking suggests Natalee Holloway partied a little too hard.
 
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/23/ar....ap/index.html

Maybe I don't know much about Natalee's backstory (I could just Wiki it, but I'm too lazy), but this seemed like a more reasonable conclusion than a kidnapping. I mean, if this had happened in the United States (party atmosphere + drinking and drugs) it'd almost certainly be the case. My bet is that the parents were more content pointing fingers at the two men involved and less at the circumstances of the night of her disappearance.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 11:12 AM

Not that I gave a shit, fuck or damn about this when it first started - but why does anyone still care?

Minion Mar 24, 2006 11:15 AM

But if we can figure this out, we'll know how to make stupid girls disappear. Think of the implications.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
But if we can figure this out, we'll know how to make stupid girls disappear. Think of the implications.

Unless Megalith's dick actually got smaller somehow and inverted it's self to be a bitch-hole, I don't see how I can care about that either

Minion Mar 24, 2006 11:19 AM

I figured your overall crankiness was due more to stupid women than Megalith. At least from what I've gleamed off your journal and stuff.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 11:22 AM

Stupid women are only half the problem with stupid people

Minion Mar 24, 2006 11:40 AM

That's very PC, but you and I both know it's bullshit, considering that most of the dumb things guys do are FOR women.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 11:42 AM

Your statement has nothing to do with what I said prior

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 24, 2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
That's very PC, but you and I both know it's bullshit, considering that most of the dumb things guys do are FOR women.

Man. You nailed it on the head.

When you men stop getting duped by women, then you can bitch. Because as far as I can tell, women can totally manipulate you men with just a few bats of the eyelashes and inflation of the tit-region.

IDIOTS. ^_^

Alice Mar 24, 2006 11:43 AM

You guys are heartless bastards. Seriously. This is someone's child. I would probably die myself if anything like this happened to one of my kids, whether they had partied too hard or not.

As if you guys have never done it (not directed at you, Dopefish).

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
Man. You nailed it on the head.

When you men stop getting duped by women, then you can bitch. Because as far as I can tell, women can totally manipulate you men with just a few bats of the eyelashes and inflation of the tit-region.

IDIOTS. ^_^

As opposed to women, who soak their Victoria Secret underwear upon seeing an ATM card or 403b retirement plan?

Everyone is as fucking full of shit as the next person. Gender has nothing to do with it.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 24, 2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
You guys are heartless bastards. Seriously. This is someone's child. I would probably die myself if anything like this happened to one of my kids, whether they had partied too hard or not.

It should teach parents to raise kids who are responsible anr hold themselves with some motherfucking dignity. Not getting as TRASHED AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE and getting DEAD somewhere in Aruba.

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As if you guys have never done it (not directed at you, Dopefish).
I have NEVER run off from a bar with two complete strangers and went on a party binge with them.

ANY CHILD should know better. Seriously.

Alice Mar 24, 2006 11:48 AM

Well good for you. I wish I could say that.

I sincerely hope that the stupid things we do as teenagers don't mark us as worthless people for the rest of our lives. If so, then I'm screwed.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 24, 2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
Well good for you. I wish I could say that.

I sincerely hope that the stupid things we do as teenagers don't mark us as worthless people for the rest of our lives. If so, then I'm screwed.

Who said anything about being worthless?

I think its a more a matter of "Gee son. Thats unreasonable."

Stop taking it so personally, Alice.

Alice Mar 24, 2006 11:51 AM

I can't help it. Ever since I first heard about this girl, I keep seeing my own daughter's face every time it comes up in the news. Kids do stupid shit. I would hope that my daughter would never do anything quite this stupid, but if she did and something like this happened, it would be no less sad.

I just can't believe that anyone could be flippant about this child, who is almost certainly dead.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 24, 2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
I can't help it. Ever since I first heard about this girl, I keep seeing my own daughter's face every time it comes up in the news. Kids do stupid shit. I would hope that my daughter would never do anything quite this stupid, but if she did and something like this happened, it would be no less sad.

Well, you better hope and pray your daughter knows better. I don't know her too well, but you're her mother. You would know if she'd walk away from a bar with two perfect strangers on some goddamned island off the coast of Venezuela.

I know kids do stupid shit - but there's stupid, and there's "asking for it." Even when I was 16, I knew better than to hitch-hike when it was pouring rain and had 6 miles to go.

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I just can't believe that anyone could be flippant about this child, who is almost certainly dead.
What do you WANT us to do, Alice? Weep for every stupid person who ever gets dead? I hate to sound insensitive here, but I mean, what would you LIKE us to do?

Dopefish Mar 24, 2006 11:56 AM

Until the rationale about her drinking herself to death came up, I grew increasingly in the belief that she was alive still...if not in a situation she can control (i.e. kidnapped or a hostage). I feel it more believable that she is probably dead due to drugs/alcohol than being killed otherwise.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 12:05 PM

Personally, if she weren't dead already - I'd be disappointed.

Seriously, what is this shit? Girl got drunk and fucked up on drugs in another country and left with a bunch of guys. We've all seen enough Lifetime Movie commercials to know she gets gangfucked while screaming for her life/orgasm and then comes back and sues them and POOR WHITE GIRL IS SO STRONG for facing her rapists.

POOR WHITE GIRL. Shut the fuck up. I don't know about you people, but I've never left my fucking timezone, let alone my country. I sure as fuck aint meeting up with some foreigners for booze and fucking in some place I don't know.

To coin Sam Jackson: "Yes, she deserves to die - and I hope she burns in hell!"

Minion Mar 24, 2006 12:06 PM

Alice, seriously. If I cried everytime a stupid kid died, I'd die of dehydration. You can't let someone you've never met affect your day to day life. And it's not like this sort of thing is a shocking revelation to any of us.

I have a question for you, though. Where are all the stories about dumb black kids or hispanic kids who live in the projects and who get shot because they mouthed off to the wrong guy? Why is no one crying for them? It's not like this girl is the only kid to have died this year.

Alice Mar 24, 2006 12:07 PM

Wow. I've done some really, REALLY stupid things when I've been drunk. You guys just haven't had enough tequila - that's the problem.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 12:08 PM

First off, tequila is for faggots and wetbacks.

Secondly, did you just admit to getting gangfucked while drunk?

Alice Mar 24, 2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Where are all the stories about dumb black kids or hispanic kids who live in the projects and who get shot because they mouthed off to the wrong guy? Why is no one crying for them?

Uh...DUH. Niggers and spicks don't count.

Dopefish Mar 24, 2006 12:09 PM

Maybe some people don't want to get drunk and act retarded...

Alice Mar 24, 2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LeHah
First off, tequila is for faggots and wetbacks.

Secondly, did you just admit to getting gangfucked while drunk?

No. That one's still on my "to do" list.

I poked it and it made a sad sound Mar 24, 2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
Wow. I've done some really, REALLY stupid things when I've been drunk. You guys just haven't had enough tequila - that's the problem.

What. I resent this presumption.

I know better than to get so shitfucked out of mind that I lose all ability to THINK PROPERLY. Especially if I was in another country, drinking with FOREIGNERS, and RUNNING OFF INTO THE DARK, BLACK NIGHT with them. Man. Hello.

Have you ever done that, Alice?

And yea, Minion is right. We can't cry over every single stupid kid. Like he said, no one really pays attention to the people *in our our country who are NOT that stupid* who get shot every day, or die because of something retardedly petty at no fault of their own.

If they're BLACK and POOR, I guess it doesn't MATTER!

I think you're taking it all very seriously because she looks like your daughter. It hits too close to home for you. I understand that, but be REASONABLE. ;_;

Minion Mar 24, 2006 12:12 PM

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Uh...DUH. Niggers and spicks don't count.
Exactly. The media is liberal as hell, but they also know statistics. That's why "WHITE GIRL DIES" will always be a national headline, whereas "Some negro gets whacked in a drug related incident....again" will hardly make it to the 10th page of he 3rd section of the local rag. So why should I pay particular attention to these special people the media has decided I should care about? You might as well cry over Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes when they get divorced.

Misogynyst Gynecologist Mar 24, 2006 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland
No. That one's still on my "to do" list.

I'm sure theres some little poor section near you full of black people that would enjoy tearing opening your various holes with prodding fingers and genitals.

If you wanted it done, you'd've done it by now. Whore.

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Originally Posted by Sassafrass
If they're BLACK and POOR, I guess it doesn't MATTER!

It should also be said that poor black famlies know how to handle shit like this. I've been witnessed to some fucked up shit in some ultra ghetto fucking neighborhoods about 6 years back.

The reason the news doesn't report it is because the problem is solved without calling the police. Case in point: some wetback was smacking the shit out of his girlfriend and her brother found out and they gunned the fucking shit out of him in the middle of a street in broad daylight

Mercury Blue Mar 24, 2006 07:54 PM

Mountain Brook, AL is a neighborhood mostly of well to do rich people, that is where Natalee is from. The kids are raised by nannys while there parents work, because of this there parents feel guilty and give them whatever they want. Well that is most of the kids from Mountain Brook, not all of them. Just recently a lot of them got in trouble for underage drinking with the law. :\ It's nothing new, there is a long history of Brookies and heavy underage drinking.

Personally I think we should be more worried about children who have gone missing recently in OUR country, not some irresponsible ADULT who disppeared on small foreign island.

Iwata Mar 24, 2006 08:18 PM

I agree with pretty much everything Lehah said in regards to the subject.

I hope the chick is dead and people stop talking about her, this type of thing happens all the time, but just because she is some ditsy well-off blonde, she gets national attention in regards to her missing. Fuck that shit. I bet she got fucked hard on the beach, then asphyxiated on her own vomit and then got swept away by the ocean while passed out.

Zelnick Mar 25, 2006 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Minion
Exactly. The media is liberal as hell, but they also know statistics.

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Originally Posted by J-Man
Did you know that 84.1% of statistics are made up?

I don't really care about this thing too much. I think it would be better if she's found alive then dead though... ;)

Dubble Mar 28, 2006 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mercury Blue
Mountain Brook, AL is a neighborhood mostly of well to do rich people, that is where Natalee is from. The kids are raised by nannys while there parents work, because of this there parents feel guilty and give them whatever they want. Well that is most of the kids from Mountain Brook, not all of them. Just recently a lot of them got in trouble for underage drinking with the law. :\ It's nothing new, there is a long history of Brookies and heavy underage drinking.

I love you.

No seriously. I love you.

I'm from Birmingham AL and I've thought that for years. And considering that I am from B'ham I am SOOOOOO SICK of hearing about this case. Don't get me wrong, no parent should have to lose a child. Thats the worst feeling in the world. But this goes far beyond the call and duty of "PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT IT NOW".

I love the news media taglines - Commercials that go "New Developments in the Natalee Holloway case! Natalee was seen at the souvenier shop buying a fake tattoo! OHNOES1!!11!!!!"

That shit gets hella annoying for the 65749876327676th consecutive time.

And furthermore had this been an ugly black chick or a fat latino girl or some crazy samoan woman who went to visit some little backwater island 3 miles off the coast of Fairy World or some shit that fell off a cliff into a black hole vortex into another dimension it still wouldnt get HALF the coverage Natalee gets which is sad. There are SO MANY other cases out there that are just as if not MORE pressing and we're still focusing on the same case that is perpetually going nowhere. (Personally I kinda wanna strangle that Joren Van Der Sloot guy cause he comes off a bit of a pompous ass but maybe thats just me)

Furthermore is it just me or does it seem that news show hosts such as Nancy Grace (whom I dont really care for any more than the stuff that pours daily out of the crack of my ass. man i dislike her something fierce) seem to obsess over this case in particular?

Anyways I dont mean to take away from the tragedy of the situation. It IS sad that the girl died, but the way the media is focusing on it as if it was the next sign of the apocalype is just annoying.



.....man the tone of this post is grumpy. :lolsign:


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